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JoltinJoe
February 10th, 2007, 01:13 PM
FORDHAM FOOTBALL ANNOUNCES 2007 RECRUITING CLASS

FORDHAM FOOTBALL ANNOUNCES 2007 RECRUITING CLASS (http://www.fordhamsports.com/asp_new/full_news.asp?TeamID=145&NewsID=1264)



Name, Pos., Ht., Wt., Hometown/High School
Isa Abdul-Quddus, ILB, 6-0, 190, Union, NJ/Union
Brandon Anderson, WR, 6-1, 175, The Colony, TX/Jesuit Prep
Jon Arnold, WR, 6-0, 185, West Orange, NJ/West Orange
Jordan Bledsoe, OL, 6-3, 260, LaGrangeville, NY/Our Lady of Lourdes
Clay Busch, QB, 5-11, 180, Mesa, AZ/Desert Ridge
Kevin Conochan, OL, 6-4, 230, Concord, OH/Benedictine
Andre Delaire, ILB, 6-0, 200, Bloomfield, CT/Bloomfield
Jeff Fuller, ILB, 6-0, 218, Sunrise, FL/Saint Thomas Aquinas
Ahmed Haruna, CB, 5-11, 160, Grand Prairie, TX/South Grand Prairie
Jamal Haruna, CB, 5-11, 160, Grand Prairie, TX/South Grand Prairie
Michael Hickman, OLB, 6-4, 210, Pittsburgh, PA/Schenley
Jay Jackson, OLB, 6-0, 185, Gainesville, GA/East Hall
Wendell Joly, OL, 6-3, 265, Brooklyn, NY/Fort Hamilton
Kevin Ketelsen, DL, 6-3, 233, Red Bank, NJ/Red Bank Catholic
Nick Magiera, ILB, 5-11, 198, Barrington, IL/Barrington
Sean Mara, QB, 6-2, 195, Port Chester, NY/Iona Prep
Xavier Martin, RB, 5-10, 165, Staten Island, NY/Xaverian
Nnadozic Onyeabor, S, 5-7, 160, Keller, TX/Keller
Nnamdi Onyeabor, RB, 5-8, 190, Keller, TX/Keller
Sam Pitts, OLB, 6-0, 215, Tallahassee, FL/Trinity Pawling
Darryl Robinson, RB, 6-0, 190, Pembroke Pines, FL/Saint Thomas Aquinas
Clifton Stuckey, OLB, 6-0, 190, Broadview, IL/Proviso
Chris Thomas, WR, 6-2, 190, Rochester, NY/Gates-Chili
Adnan Vandyck, DL, 6-4, 243, Brooklyn, NY/Fort Hamilton
Bryson Wilson, S, 6-0, 195, Dallas, TX/South Grand Prairie

carney2
February 10th, 2007, 01:57 PM
Ya gotta love it: Texas, Florida, Arizona, Illinois, Ohio. Way to go, Rams.

As someone already said, I am looking forward to that game down the road when Lafayette's Shula is lined up against Fordham's Mara.

th0m
February 10th, 2007, 01:58 PM
Yeah. First thing I noticed, a lot of out of state commits. Good luck to the Rams.

BigApp
February 10th, 2007, 07:17 PM
Yeah. First thing I noticed, a lot of out of state commits.

you got that right! wonder why?

*****
February 10th, 2007, 07:23 PM
FORDHAM FOOTBALL ANNOUNCES 2007 RECRUITING CLASS...nice list but we can't post entire articles and can't post other people's stuff without a link. xcoffeex

ngineer
February 10th, 2007, 08:50 PM
Fordham's class is typical of what the PL is having to do--recruit nationally due to the higher AI's and the need to expand the pool. The Rams have mined Florida quite well of late.

JoltinJoe
February 10th, 2007, 09:40 PM
nice list but we can't post entire articles and can't post other people's stuff without a link. xcoffeex

I know the rules -- but that was the school's press release. It's not copyrighted material and the school wants it to be re-published.

slostang
February 10th, 2007, 09:51 PM
Rivals.com had Quasand Lewis, a RB/LB out of Rancho Cucamonga, CA, giving his verbal to Fordham. He had offers from Colardo State, Sac State and Cal Poly. I do not see him on the list. Does anyone know anything about him?

*****
February 11th, 2007, 01:16 AM
I know the rules -- but that was the school's press release. It's not copyrighted material and the school wants it to be re-published.go ahead and give it a link so people don't think you're making it up. BTW "Copyright © 2001-2004 by Fordham University Athletic Department. All rights reserved worldwide. No portion of this site may be reproduced or duplicated without the express written permission of Fordham University Athletic Department and its third-party content partners." is what they'd stick AGS with. :twocents: From the AGS TOS:
Forbidden activity on all boards:
+ Posting of articles copyrighted from other sources in their entirety. Accepted use is posting less than half of the copyrighted article with full attribution given to the copyright owner and a URL to the full copyrighted article. xcoffeex

JoltinJoe
February 11th, 2007, 06:54 AM
Rivals.com had Quasand Lewis, a RB/LB out of Rancho Cucamonga, CA, giving his verbal to Fordham. He had offers from Colardo State, Sac State and Cal Poly. I do not see him on the list. Does anyone know anything about him?

He has verballed to Fordham. I don't know why he's not on the list; however, in past years because of the complicated PL financial aid forms that must be completed, some recruits have not had all the paperwork done by the end of signing day. This is why PL teams usually don't issue press releases until a week or two after the signing date. This press release is very early by PL standards. In the past only Lafayette has issued a release on or around the national signing date.

There are at least two other Fordham commits not on this list. On the Fordham board a friend of one of those three confirmed that this recruit had committed to Fordham. In that case at least, it is plainly a case of paperwork delay.

Lewis is a big get for Fordham and will probably see significant playing time as a freshman.

JoltinJoe
February 11th, 2007, 07:05 AM
go ahead and give it a link so people don't think you're making it up. BTW "Copyright © 2001-2004 by Fordham University Athletic Department. All rights reserved worldwide. No portion of this site may be reproduced or duplicated without the express written permission of Fordham University Athletic Department and its third-party content partners." is what they'd stick AGS with. :twocents: From the AGS TOS: xcoffeex

Ok, I've placed the link into the first post but I don't think that language is intended to apply to press releases. I'll mention it to the SID that the terms of the website literally bar the re-publication of press releases. I really don't think that language applies to press releases. When I was at Fordham, the weekly Bronx paper and some other local media often ran Fordham's press releases verbatim.

JoltinJoe
February 11th, 2007, 07:18 AM
Rivals.com had Quasand Lewis, a RB/LB out of Rancho Cucamonga, CA, giving his verbal to Fordham. He had offers from Colardo State, Sac State and Cal Poly. I do not see him on the list. Does anyone know anything about him?

He has verballed to Fordham. I don't know why he's not on the list; however, in past years because of the complicated PL financial aid forms that must be completed, some recruits have not had all the paperwork done by the end of signing day. This is why PL teams usually don't issue press releases until a week or two after the signing date. This press release is very early by PL standards. In the past only Lafayette has issued a release on or around the national signing date.

There are at least two other Fordham commits not on this list. On the Fordham board a friend of one of those three confirmed that this recruit had committed to Fordham. In that case at least, it is plainly a case of paperwork delay.

Lewis is a big get for Fordham and will probably see significant playing time as a freshman.

Lehigh Football Nation
February 11th, 2007, 03:07 PM
Did Lehigh get RB Antonio Walcott? I saw Fordham and Stony Brook were in the running, but neither got him.

Fordham
February 11th, 2007, 05:47 PM
Very, very pumped about this class.

Re: Walcott, LFN - I've been wondering the same thing. We got 2 of his teammates but I haven't found anything listing where he is going. He'd be a great get imo for either of us.

Pard4Life
February 12th, 2007, 08:55 AM
Will the Patriot be on the rebound? Interesting to see so many out of staters here.. but only time will tell how good they are.

carney2
February 12th, 2007, 09:10 AM
Will the Patriot be on the rebound? Interesting to see so many out of staters here.. but only time will tell how good they are.

"Word on the street," whatever that means, is that the Patriot League as a whole did pretty well with their recruiting this year. We will not, however, have an inkling until these guys near the end of their junior season. In other words, if there is to be a League "rebound" in 2007 I have yet to hear a convincing case.

Cobblestone
February 12th, 2007, 10:17 AM
I see you guys landed a WR from The Colony, TX. They usually produce a good crop.

Lehigh Football Nation
February 12th, 2007, 10:21 AM
I'll do a more comprehensive analysis on my blog once all the classes are out, but what really sticks out is the six recruits from TX. That's a lot from one state. Any link between coach Masella and TX? Fordham last year got a pretty darned good QB out of TX that was recruited by UTEP, so they've gotten some good people there in the past.

Pard4Life
February 12th, 2007, 10:28 AM
I'll do a more comprehensive analysis on my blog once all the classes are out, but what really sticks out is the six recruits from TX. That's a lot from one state. Any link between coach Masella and TX? Fordham last year got a pretty darned good QB out of TX that was recruited by UTEP, so they've gotten some good people there in the past.

Yes, but it appears four are two sets of twins... so that is kind of skewed...

But still... "four" recruits from Texas is strong for a northeast program... I'd like to see Lafayette in Texas, and California too.

Fordham
February 12th, 2007, 04:23 PM
Yes, but it appears four are two sets of twins... so that is kind of skewed...

But still... "four" recruits from Texas is strong for a northeast program... I'd like to see Lafayette in Texas, and California too.

Interesting that we got that double set of twins and both sets from TX nonetheless!

I'm not aware of any existing links between coach's staff and TX but the Foley staff started our TX recruiting with a big OL (Brown) that saw some time last year as well as our backup QB who battled with Skelton for the starting spot last year (Jordan). Typically, we seem to locate a big Jesuit HS in a particular area to start off a relationship and then try to spread out from there. Again, though, not sure if we had add'l contacts that got us further entrenched there with this new staff.

Cobblestone
February 12th, 2007, 06:47 PM
I'm not trying to burst anyone's bubble and I'm glad for you guys at Fordham with the Texas recruits but... Keep in mind one thing. High school football is HUGE in Texas, these kids are used to playing in front of big crowds, being the focal point of their community and enjoying overall adulation. Many times a northeast I-AA school is too much of a culture shock for them, i.e. small crowds, unenthusiastic student body and a basketball culture that exists more in the northeast than in Texas. In other words these kids can become real homesick, real quick and transfer elsewhere.

I remember not too long ago we had a QB from Texas who came in with impressive numbers; no small accomplishment in a state like Texas. The URI campus and atmosphere was way too much of a culture shock for him and he transferred after one season. He ended up at a D-II school in Texas and had a decent college career.

I'm not saying this will happen to you folks at Fordham and I certainly don't wish it on you but it is something to keep in mind.

ngineer
February 12th, 2007, 09:05 PM
Interesting that we got that double set of twins and both sets from TX nonetheless!

I'm not aware of any existing links between coach's staff and TX but the Foley staff started our TX recruiting with a big OL (Brown) that saw some time last year as well as our backup QB who battled with Skelton for the starting spot last year (Jordan). Typically, we seem to locate a big Jesuit HS in a particular area to start off a relationship and then try to spread out from there. Again, though, not sure if we had add'l contacts that got us further entrenched there with this new staff.

ONce a school gets it foot in the door in a certain region and favorable word gets out, then you'll see a little widening of the pool. Lehigh has started to get a few from TX, Louisiana, and CA.
Interestng side point, a lot of PL schools are becoming more nationally known just as schools. I was at an 'alumni-rush' dinner for my fraternity this past week and one of the freshmen was from outside LA. I asked how he got interested in Lehigh, and he said his guidance counselor because of his academic interests and type/size of school he was interested in. So it's not just what we're hunting for, but sometimes, what they're looking for....

Pard4Life
February 13th, 2007, 08:44 AM
ONce a school gets it foot in the door in a certain region and favorable word gets out, then you'll see a little widening of the pool. Lehigh has started to get a few from TX, Louisiana, and CA.
Interestng side point, a lot of PL schools are becoming more nationally known just as schools. I was at an 'alumni-rush' dinner for my fraternity this past week and one of the freshmen was from outside LA. I asked how he got interested in Lehigh, and he said his guidance counselor because of his academic interests and type/size of school he was interested in. So it's not just what we're hunting for, but sometimes, what they're looking for....

I'm sure Bucknell winning some games sure helped the Patriot League image. Lafayette has had some kids from out of state, and I've known a few.. some from Oregon, LA area..

Hopefully this Kansas WR is a star and gets the name out in the Midwest.

Fordham
February 13th, 2007, 08:55 AM
1. eng & Pard, you're hitting upon exactly why I believe that an "Athletic Ivies" strategy would be so powerful.

2. Cobblestone - there is definitely more risk the further you take someone out of their comfort zone or culture. Not only are they coming to the Northeast but they're also coming to NYC - kind of a double whammy. We've been pretty successful in keeping our FL kids, though, so I hold out hope that we won't be too disappointed in terms of their ability to stick. Regardless, though, the question comes up of 'what's the alternative?'. At this point, the Northeast is just getting more and more crowded in terms of recruiting and if we want to find kids who can play at this level we need to go here, even if it does carry a bit more risk with it.

Pard4Life
February 13th, 2007, 09:02 AM
1. eng & Pard, you're hitting upon exactly why I believe that an "Athletic Ivies" strategy would be so powerful.

2. Cobblestone - there is definitely more risk the further you take someone out of their comfort zone or culture. Not only are they coming to the Northeast but they're also coming to NYC - kind of a double whammy. We've been pretty successful in keeping our FL kids, though, so I hold out hope that we won't be too disappointed in terms of their ability to stick. Regardless, though, the question comes up of 'what's the alternative?'. At this point, the Northeast is just getting more and more crowded in terms of recruiting and if we want to find kids who can play at this level we need to go here, even if it does carry a bit more risk with it.

Lafayette doesn't have the NYC problem... the Lehigh Valley would fit in nicely with any area of the country..

Fordham
February 13th, 2007, 09:07 AM
Lafayette doesn't have the NYC problem... the Lehigh Valley would fit in nicely with any area of the country..
exactly - Lafayette has an Easton problem <kind of a 'triple whammy'>

:smiley_wi

Lehigh Football Nation
February 13th, 2007, 09:28 AM
exactly - Lafayette has an Easton problem <kind of a 'triple whammy'>

:smiley_wi

:lmao:

Thanks, I needed that!

carney2
February 14th, 2007, 08:24 AM
exactly - Lafayette has an Easton problem <kind of a 'triple whammy'>

:smiley_wi

And Lehigh will soon have a gambling problem* - as if the online poker/bank robber scandal isn't enough.

*The Pennsylvania Gaming Commission or whatever it's called has recently approved a casino site for the old Bethlehem Steel site, literally within walking distance of Lehigh's South Mountain campus. In some respects then, this is a serious question - What happens to a college when a casino is built next door?

Fordham
February 14th, 2007, 08:55 AM
... the number of recruits with UNLV and Lehigh as their final 2 goes through the roof?

<in all seriousness, isn't this for slots only? I thought it was but could be wrong. If so, it seems clearly aimed at the blue hairs who have spending all of that money the hard way (a nickel at a time) in AC.>

ngineer
February 14th, 2007, 09:12 AM
Yes, it is a for slots only. And while not exactly 'next door' it is close enough that I thought the University should have shown some spine and spoken up against the proposal. The Casino will be located east of the Minsi Trail Bridge--about a mile away. The past president and/or the Board didn't want to make 'political' waves with the City's administration that was strongly behind it. However, City Council passed the ordinance by only a 5-4 vote, so I believe a strong Lehigh voice in the debate could have turned a vote or two. Very disappointed in my alma mater not speaking out against this project, which I believe will more detrimental impact than positive on the city as a whole and life in general.
Sorry for temporarily hijacking the thread--but you struck a nerve...:mad:

carney2
February 14th, 2007, 09:50 AM
Yes, it is a for slots only. And while not exactly 'next door' it is close enough that I thought the University should have shown some spine and spoken up against the proposal. The Casino will be located east of the Minsi Trail Bridge--about a mile away. The past president and/or the Board didn't want to make 'political' waves with the City's administration that was strongly behind it. However, City Council passed the ordinance by only a 5-4 vote, so I believe a strong Lehigh voice in the debate could have turned a vote or two. Very disappointed in my alma mater not speaking out against this project, which I believe will more detrimental impact than positive on the city as a whole and life in general.
Sorry for temporarily hijacking the thread--but you struck a nerve...:mad:

I'm betting (pun intended) that strong Lehigh opposition would have ended this casino's chances since "strong community opposition" was one of the factors considered in granting the license. There were, of course, individuals and groups that opposed this site, but none so visible as Bethlehem's leading institutional citizen.

As for hijacking this thread, we are the Patriot League and it is a way of life for us here at AGS. We take pride in our hijacking accomplishments. More specifically, Lafayette may be last in PL basketball, but we lead all leagues in the hijacking of AGS threads. We are, in fact, BS (formerly I-A) - again pun intended - in this category.