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GodHelpTheBears
September 4th, 2017, 03:38 PM
I thought I should create this, if nothing else as a containment tank for the trolling that may take place.

I won't put too much stock in our performance on 9/2. UM-C has one of the five worst defenses in FBS - UND's is considerably better. By the same token, UM-C throttled Eastern Michigan last year but EMU still qualified for a bowl. I don't think our defense is great but I won't lose my lid until I see it against peer competition.

UND should win this, but apparently we now have an adequate QB and OL, so if we can generate a goofy score we have a shot.

Now that I have said my piece, I'll leave it to the Canadians to do what they do best.

cx500d
September 4th, 2017, 05:03 PM
Now that I have said my piece, I'll leave it to the Canadians to do what they do best.

What, play hockey or pontificate on how they are better than NDSU head to head since 1890 or whenever that series started?

UND was less impressive against Utah than Misery State against Misery. I'd say you have a great chance to stick it to the fn hawks.

Bisonator
September 4th, 2017, 05:16 PM
Go Bears!xthumbsupx

centennial
September 4th, 2017, 05:36 PM
Cheering for the bears to stick to the UNDies.

geaux_sioux
September 4th, 2017, 06:22 PM
Any team that passes the ball a ton can beat UND. Is MSU's defense really as bad as they looked against Mizzou?

TheKingpin28
September 4th, 2017, 06:41 PM
Any team that passes the ball a ton can beat UND. Is MSU's defense really as bad as they looked against Mizzou?

It's also Missery.

abc123
September 4th, 2017, 10:12 PM
UND was less impressive against Utah than Misery State against Misery.

Guess UND should have lost by more?

barnwintersportsengelstad
September 5th, 2017, 12:14 AM
I thought I should create this, if nothing else as a containment tank for the trolling that may take place.

I won't put too much stock in our performance on 9/2. UM-C has one of the five worst defenses in FBS - UND's is considerably better. By the same token, UM-C throttled Eastern Michigan last year but EMU still qualified for a bowl. I don't think our defense is great but I won't lose my lid until I see it against peer competition.

UND should win this, but apparently we now have an adequate QB and OL, so if we can generate a goofy score we have a shot.

Now that I have said my piece, I'll leave it to the Canadians to do what they do best.

You spanked us last time, I'm sure the players are going to try and return the favor. This game be closer than most in ND think, except for those trolls with the pickups with manure in their box.

geaux_sioux
September 5th, 2017, 08:09 AM
These pass heavy no defense playing Missouri Fluffey teams always make me nervous.

centennial
September 5th, 2017, 01:37 PM
These pass heavy no defense playing Missouri Fluffey teams always make me nervous.

Actually MSU is more like a Big Fluffy team. Limited defense but good offense. They scored a bunch against a SEC team. UND is in for a good game.

clenz
September 5th, 2017, 01:42 PM
COMMON MISSERY!

dewey
September 5th, 2017, 01:55 PM
Go Bears!

Dewey

Thumper 76
September 5th, 2017, 03:07 PM
These pass heavy no defense playing Missouri Fluffey teams always make me nervous.

Wow, this is a beyond weak attempt man. Very disappointing xsmhx


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clenz
September 5th, 2017, 03:08 PM
Wow, this is a beyond weak attempt man. Very disappointing xsmhx


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Notice that the pass heavy no defense teams - Missouri State and Southern Illinois - have been at the bottom of the league for a while now

ST_Lawson
September 5th, 2017, 03:20 PM
This Chicago-team sports fan is rootin' for....

https://media.giphy.com/media/sVqE0bUAAhzEc/giphy.gif

Bison56
September 5th, 2017, 03:34 PM
Go Bears!

geaux_sioux
September 5th, 2017, 04:30 PM
Notice that the pass heavy no defense teams - Missouri State and Southern Illinois - have been at the bottom of the league for a while now
SDSU

BisonTru
September 5th, 2017, 04:35 PM
SDSU

SDSU has arguably the best wide receiver and tight end in all of FCS. It's hard not to air out, but they've never been from a program stand point a pass heavy up tempo offense.

geaux_sioux
September 5th, 2017, 04:38 PM
SDSU has arguably the best wide receiver and tight end in all of FCS. It's hard not to air out, but they've never been from a program stand point a pass heavy up tempo offense.
And how's their defense?

Wilson16
September 5th, 2017, 04:38 PM
SDSU has arguably the best wide receiver and tight end in all of FCS. It's hard not to air out, but they've never been from a program stand point a pass heavy up tempo offense.
It was all the grand forks cc fan could come up with. I mean the moral victory from last weekend should scare the crap out of a pass happy team like SDSU right?

clenz
September 5th, 2017, 04:40 PM
SDSU
SDSU's run game is top 3 in the conference. They have gaudy pass numbers but they are a power team.

They averaged 4.7 yards per carry last year. That was third in the conference.
They ran for 150 yards per game last year
Had 410 run attempts

Don't let the numbers distract you from what they still are, and have been.

GodHelpTheBears
September 5th, 2017, 04:43 PM
These pass heavy no defense playing Missouri Fluffey teams always make me nervous.

We tried line-em-up ball against the NDSUs and UNIs and it failed. Our recruiting grounds aren't as good for that kind of stuff as yours, so we went to the Oklahoma/Texas cowboy ball. The jury is still out, but a few promising signs are starting to emerge.

...although, our guys kicked your team's ass when we did line-em-up.

BisonTru
September 5th, 2017, 04:44 PM
And how's their defense?

They finished fourth in the conference in total defense.

Kemo
September 5th, 2017, 05:05 PM
Shhh... quit giving away SDSU's secrets, guys. We are a one-trick pony, air raid team that doesn't play defense. Nothing more.

geaux_sioux
September 5th, 2017, 06:25 PM
They finished fourth in the conference in total defense.


TOTAL DEFENSE
G
Rush
Pass
Plays
Yards
Avg/P
TD
Avg/G


1.
Northern Iowa
11
1317
2095
715
3412
4.8
29
310.2


2.
North Dakota St.
14
1490
2985
882
4475
5.1
27
319.6


3.
Youngstown State
16
2063
3057
991
5120
5.2
38
320.0


4.
Illinois State
12
1522
2586
888
4108
4.6
28
342.3


5.
South Dakota St.
13
2274
2974
920
5248
5.7
42
403.7


6.
Indiana State
11
2028
2417
804
4445
5.5
41
404.1


7.
Southern Illinois
11
1825
2939
816
4764
5.8
42
433.1


8.
Missouri State
11
2016
2861
780
4877
6.3
47
443.4


9.
Western Illinois
11
1647
3271
769
4918
6.4
44
447.1


10.
South Dakota
11
2758
2567
826
5325
6.4
44
484.1

Schism55
September 5th, 2017, 07:04 PM
Very interesting early season litmus test here.
If UND has any designs on making noise in the postseason, this is a must have.

cx500d
September 5th, 2017, 07:07 PM
Nice readable column headings...They teach you to use black font on dark blue background at GFCC?




TOTAL DEFENSE
G
Rush
Pass
Plays
Yards
Avg/P
TD
Avg/G


1.
Northern Iowa
11
1317
2095
715
3412
4.8
29
310.2


2.
North Dakota St.
14
1490
2985
882
4475
5.1
27
319.6


3.
Youngstown State
16
2063
3057
991
5120
5.2
38
320.0


4.
Illinois State
12
1522
2586
888
4108
4.6
28
342.3


5.
South Dakota St.
13
2274
2974
920
5248
5.7
42
403.7


6.
Indiana State
11
2028
2417
804
4445
5.5
41
404.1


7.
Southern Illinois
11
1825
2939
816
4764
5.8
42
433.1


8.
Missouri State
11
2016
2861
780
4877
6.3
47
443.4


9.
Western Illinois
11
1647
3271
769
4918
6.4
44
447.1


10.
South Dakota
11
2758
2567
826
5325
6.4
44
484.1

geaux_sioux
September 5th, 2017, 07:21 PM
Nice readable column headings...They teach you to use black font on dark blue background at GFCC?
Talk to the mods about that. I copy and pasted from the MVFC stats page.

cx500d
September 5th, 2017, 07:22 PM
Thats called plagiarism without attribution. They teach you that at GFCC?


Talk to the mods about that. I copy and pasted from the MVFC stats page.

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TOTAL DEFENSE
G
Rush
Pass
Plays
Yards
Avg/P
TD
Avg/G


1.
Northern Iowa
11
1317
2095
715
3412
4.8
29
310.2


2.
North Dakota St.
14
1490
2985
882
4475
5.1
27
319.6


3.
Youngstown State
16
2063
3057
991
5120
5.2
38
320.0


4.
Illinois State
12
1522
2586
888
4108
4.6
28
342.3


5.
South Dakota St.
13
2274
2974
920
5248
5.7
42
403.7


6.
Indiana State
11
2028
2417
804
4445
5.5
41
404.1


7.
Southern Illinois
11
1825
2939
816
4764
5.8
42
433.1


8.
Missouri State
11
2016
2861
780
4877
6.3
47
443.4


9.
Western Illinois
11
1647
3271
769
4918
6.4
44
447.1


10.
South Dakota
11
2758
2567
826
5325
6.4
44
484.1

geaux_sioux
September 5th, 2017, 07:44 PM
Thats called plagiarism without attribution. They teach you that at GFCC?
I have a degree from NDAC as well

cx500d
September 5th, 2017, 07:46 PM
I have a degree from NDSU as well.


I was just busting your balls. I do that to people that work for me when they show a power point or spreadsheet with dark on dark or light on light font color schemes, also.

geaux_sioux
September 5th, 2017, 07:48 PM
I was just busting your balls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NewJr7mIrT0

GodHelpTheBears
September 5th, 2017, 07:53 PM
Jordan Frazier, one of our TEs will be out of this one with a leg injury. He caught a TD pass last week.

BisonTru
September 5th, 2017, 08:33 PM
TOTAL DEFENSE
G
Rush
Pass
Plays
Yards
Avg/P
TD
Avg/G


1.
Northern Iowa
11
1317
2095
715
3412
4.8
29
310.2


2.
North Dakota St.
14
1490
2985
882
4475
5.1
27
319.6


3.
Youngstown State
16
2063
3057
991
5120
5.2
38
320.0


4.
Illinois State
12
1522
2586
888
4108
4.6
28
342.3


5.
South Dakota St.
13
2274
2974
920
5248
5.7
42
403.7


6.
Indiana State
11
2028
2417
804
4445
5.5
41
404.1


7.
Southern Illinois
11
1825
2939
816
4764
5.8
42
433.1


8.
Missouri State
11
2016
2861
780
4877
6.3
47
443.4


9.
Western Illinois
11
1647
3271
769
4918
6.4
44
447.1


10.
South Dakota
11
2758
2567
826
5325
6.4
44
484.1




I said "in the conference" and use the conference only stats. The MVFC has had at least one team in the championship for 6 years. There's quite a bit of difference in games played and against who.

Despite that we are talking about 4th or 5th. They are hardly a weak defensive team especially in a conference that prides itself on playing defense.

geaux_sioux
September 5th, 2017, 08:37 PM
I said "in the conference" and use the conference only stats. The MVFC has had at least one team in the championship for 6 years. There's quite a bit of difference in games played and against who.

Despite that we are talking about 4th or 5th. They are hardly a weak defensive team especially in a conference that prides itself on playing defense.
400 yards/game is not what I would call good.

F'N Hawks
September 5th, 2017, 08:39 PM
The MVFC has had at least one team in the championship for 6 years. There's quite a bit of difference in games played and against who.

Despite that we are talking about 4th or 5th. They are hardly a weak defensive team especially in a conference that prides itself on playing defense.

A MVFC update for everyone. ^^^^
Cliffs Notes: They are awesome, all the time.
Can't wait to join.

BisonTru
September 5th, 2017, 08:42 PM
400 yards/game is not what I would call good.

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I was impressed with basically all of your skill guys on offense.

That's better than 9 teams from your conference alone.

cx500d
September 5th, 2017, 08:42 PM
A MVFC update for everyone. ^^^^
Cliffs Notes: They are awesome, all the time.
Can't wait to join.


And then we become average... It always happens when you average down.

geaux_sioux
September 5th, 2017, 08:44 PM
Jordan Frazier, one of our TEs will be out of this one with a leg injury. He caught a TD pass last week.
I was impressed with basically all of your skill guys on offense.

geaux_sioux
September 5th, 2017, 08:45 PM
That's better than 9 teams from your conference alone.
We have better offenses. Harder to defend.

GodHelpTheBears
September 5th, 2017, 08:46 PM
I was impressed with basically all of your skill guys on offense.

We think highly of Earl, Holliman and Furmanek.

Our RBs looked good too, but none stood out before the season so we didn't talk about them much. My main concern was/is with the offensive line, I did not think they could hold up. I admit they looked better than I expected, but our game last Saturday was an outlier for many reasons.

Schism55
September 5th, 2017, 08:47 PM
That's better than 9 teams from your conference alone.
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26007&stc=1

geaux_sioux
September 5th, 2017, 08:50 PM
We think highly of Earl, Holliman and Furmanek.

Our RBs looked good too, but none stood out before the season so we didn't talk about them much. My main concern was/is with the offensive line, I did not think they could hold up. I admit they looked better than I expected, but our game last Saturday was an outlier for many reasons.
They look capable of making things interesting against about anybody. Was the defense about what you expected on saturday?

BisonTru
September 5th, 2017, 08:50 PM
We have better offenses. Harder to defend.

We know. We find that out come playoff time every year. xrotatehx

F'N Hawks
September 5th, 2017, 08:51 PM
We think highly of Earl, Holliman and Furmanek.

Our RBs looked good too, but none stood out before the season so we didn't talk about them much. My main concern was/is with the offensive line, I did not think they could hold up. I admit they looked better than I expected, but our game last Saturday was an outlier for many reasons.

There's gonna be some points on the board, me thinks. Be a fun game to be at!

GodHelpTheBears
September 5th, 2017, 08:57 PM
They look capable of making things interesting against about anybody. Was the defense about what you expected on saturday?

Well, we were hoping that returning most of the defensive starters, plus adding athleticism through transfers and freshmen coming off of redshirts would help fill the Dylan Cole-sized gap in our defense.

Early results weren't encouraging, but UM-C throttled Eastern Michigan last year and their season ended up going alright by their standards. Again, outlier game, although I have to admit our defense won't be "good" in the conventional sense (ex. having a 260 lb nose guard will probably turn out poorly in many parts of our conference schedule). A bit troubling, considering Stec was sold to us as a defensive guru, but it is what it is.

geaux_sioux
September 5th, 2017, 08:58 PM
We know. We find that out come playoff time every year. xrotatehx
EWU hung 44 in the dome with Kupp only playing one half. Including that game NDSU gave up 14.6/game.

BisonTru
September 5th, 2017, 09:04 PM
EWU hung 44 in the dome with Kupp only playing one half. Including that game NDSU gave up 14.6/game.

Yet they couldn't get over 40 at home to get past Youngstown St in the playoffs.

I'll even give you Eastern's success. They have been a national contender for years with a powerful offense. After them there hasn't been much from that conference. Call it good offense or bad defense. The Big Sky isn't and hasn't for a few years been a top conference. This year (albeit one week in and still early) isn't looking any better.

Wilson16
September 5th, 2017, 09:07 PM
EWU hung 44 in the dome with Kupp only playing one half. Including that game NDSU gave up 14.6/game.
You sure spend a lot of time on stats. Try the one that counts ...... wins.

Wilson16
September 5th, 2017, 09:13 PM
You sure spend a lot of time on stats. Try the one that counts ...... wins.


A MVFC update for everyone. ^^^^
Cliffs Notes: They are awesome, all the time.
Can't wait to join.
And to think you thought it would work out going it alone. Glad to see that you finally realize it

geaux_sioux
September 5th, 2017, 09:15 PM
Yet they couldn't get over 40 at home to get past Youngstown St in the playoffs.

I'll even give you Eastern's success. They have been a national contender for years with a powerful offense. After them there hasn't been much from that conference. Call it good offense or bad defense. The Big Sky isn't and hasn't for a few years been a top conference. This year (albeit one week in and still early) isn't looking any better.
Yea, they only scored 38 and it took a miracle catch on the last play of the game to take them down. That was only 18 above YSUs average for the season.

clenz
September 5th, 2017, 09:21 PM
EWU hung 44 in the dome with Kupp only playing one half. Including that game NDSU gave up 14.6/game.

And then EWU hung 26 on UNI...in Cheney.

BisonTru
September 5th, 2017, 09:21 PM
Yea, they only scored 38 and it took a miracle catch on the last play of the game to take them down. That was only 18 above YSUs average for the season.

Like I said I'll give you Eastern. If you want to hang your hat on that, fine. Everyone in the Big Sky has play them once except for like 4 or so teams. Iirc, your team missed them last year.

That's not all that impressive.

abc123
September 5th, 2017, 09:45 PM
You sure spend a lot of time on stats. Try the one that counts ...... wins.
Does this one work?
2016 Head to Head Wins:
Big Sky - 4
MVFC - 3

cx500d
September 5th, 2017, 09:47 PM
Does this one work?
2016 Head to Head Wins:
Big Sky - 4
MVFC - 3

Nope


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Bison Fan in NW MN
September 5th, 2017, 09:53 PM
Does this one work?
2016 Head to Head Wins:
Big Sky - 4
MVFC - 3


Good one.....

Here's one: How many big fluff teams have made the title game since '10?

F'N Hawks
September 5th, 2017, 09:55 PM
Any moderation to these threads? I would be willing to actually discuss the game.

cx500d
September 5th, 2017, 09:56 PM
Any moderation to these threads? I would be willing to actually discuss the game.

What game? I thought we were bashing gfcc?


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abc123
September 5th, 2017, 09:57 PM
Good one.....

Here's one: How many big fluff teams have made the title game since '10?
One, but I thought we were supposed to talk about wins?

Bison Fan in NW MN
September 5th, 2017, 09:58 PM
What game? I thought we were bashing gfcc?


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Who fans will whine throughout this whole week on here.

Go BEARS!!!

Bison Fan in NW MN
September 5th, 2017, 09:59 PM
One, but I thought we were supposed to talk about wins?

How many NC wins then?

None

MSUDuo
September 5th, 2017, 10:25 PM
Very few, if any, FCS teams would be able to match up with Missouri's QB, RB, WRs, and TEs. Giving up 72 to them doesn't bother me since we put up 43 ourselves; they had to keep scoring. (Missouri has given up 43+ points since joining the SEC just 4 times)

Now, if we give up 73 to UND this weekend, then I will be concerned.

GodHelpTheBears
September 5th, 2017, 10:30 PM
Any moderation to these threads? I would be willing to actually discuss the game.

I had a hunch this would happen somewhere, which is why I created a dedicated thread for the game. I didn't want this to leach into the broader MVFC/Big Sky conference threads.

As for me, I see no merit in it. Both are teams are much different than they were three years ago, that game has no relevance to what will take place on Saturday, nor does it have any relevance to how your program will handle joining the Valley.

ST_Lawson
September 5th, 2017, 10:41 PM
What about more vaguely relevant memes...that's my forte.

This game will be all about...

https://media.tenor.com/images/9134d91cb4614a7b00f90370f045de5f/tenor.gif

BisonFan02
September 5th, 2017, 11:18 PM
Very few, if any, FCS teams would be able to match up with Missouri's QB, RB, WRs, and TEs. Giving up 72 to them doesn't bother me since we put up 43 ourselves; they had to keep scoring. (Missouri has given up 43+ points since joining the SEC just 4 times)

Now, if we give up 73 to UND this weekend, then I will be concerned.

If NDSU gave up 72 points....well...I have no idea.



9/25/1937
at Minnesota
L
7-69

-

Minneapolis, MN





September 25
North Dakota Agricultural (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Dakota_Agricultural_Bison_football)*

Memorial Stadium (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_Stadium_%28University_of_Minnesota%29) • Minneapolis, MN (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minneapolis)
W 69–7
47,492


October 2
at Nebraska (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1937_Nebraska_Cornhuskers_football_team)*

Memorial Stadium (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_Stadium_%28Lincoln%29) • Lincoln, NE (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln,_Nebraska) (Rivalry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota%E2%80%93Nebraska_football_rivalry))
L 9–14
37,000


October 9
Indiana (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1937_Indiana_Hoosiers_football_team)

Memorial Stadium • Minneapolis, MN
W 6–0
35,000


October 16
at Michigan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1937_Michigan_Wolverines_football_team)

Michigan Stadium (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_Stadium) • Ann Arbor, MI (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Arbor,_Michigan) (Little Brown Jug (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Brown_Jug_%28college_football_trophy%29))
W 39–6
53,266


October 30
Notre Dame (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1937_Notre_Dame_Fighting_Irish_football_team)*
No. 4
Memorial Stadium • Minneapolis, MN
L 6–7
63,237


November 6
at Iowa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1937_Iowa_Hawkeyes_football_team)
No. 14
Iowa Stadium (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinnick_Stadium) • Iowa City, IA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_City,_Iowa) (Rivalry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa%E2%80%93Minnesota_football_rivalry))
W 35–10
40,000


November 13
Northwestern (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1937_Northwestern_Wildcats_football_team)
No. 10
Memorial Stadium • Minneapolis, MN
W 7–0
63,000


November 20
Wisconsin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1937_Wisconsin_Badgers_football_team)
No. 7
Memorial Stadium • Minneapolis, MN (Rivalry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota%E2%80%93Wisconsin_football_rivalry))
W 13–6
46,000





11/1/1958
at Trinity
L
6-80

-




No idea...looks like a DIII team now. Some pretty bad NDSU football back then.



1958












Trinity
20
New Mexico State
0










Trinity
25
Texas A&I
0










Trinity
0
Miss. Southern
16










Trinity
0
Mississippi
21










Trinity
35
West Texas State
7










Trinity
18
Southwestern La.
22









Trinity
80
North Dakota St.
6










Trinity
26
ACC
15







Trinity
49
Texas Western
0




http://stats.gobison.com/fb/HISTRESU.HTM

But yeah...if UND scores 73, I would be genuinely concerned. xlolx

nodak651
September 5th, 2017, 11:30 PM
This thread sucks.

ST_Lawson
September 5th, 2017, 11:33 PM
This thread sucks.

Welcome to the MVFC, where our football threads are about pizza, beer, and just about anything else besides football.


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centennial
September 6th, 2017, 12:41 AM
This thread sucks.

Not as much as UND. We are all going to have a nice laugh when you "try" to beat a dungeon dweller from the MVFC. No pressure though, lose this game and your chances of making the playoffs go down significantly.

Missouri State will play with house money. UND already has a loss and the actually have some playoff dreams.

Bisonator
September 6th, 2017, 09:05 AM
Any moderation to these threads? I would be willing to actually discuss the game.
So far you haven't posted anything relevant about the game. What's stopping you? Whiner.

I picked UND because they are at home but think Misery State has a great shot to win. UND's offense looked just as bad as Misery States defense so we'll see which one wins on Saturday. UND's OC needs to trust Studsrude more and let him throw to open up the run game IMO.

Wilson16
September 6th, 2017, 09:45 AM
Does this one work?
2016 Head to Head Wins:
Big Sky - 4
MVFC - 3
And when it counts? Playoffs and especially Championships?

Wilson16
September 6th, 2017, 09:55 AM
Not as much as UND. We are all going to have a nice laugh when you "try" to beat a dungeon dweller from the MVFC. No pressure though, lose this game and your chances of making the playoffs go down significantly.

Missouri State will play with house money. UND already has a loss and the actually have some playoff dreams.
I hope UND makes the playoffs and has to come to the Fargodome or go to Brookings. Hoping this would allow the BiZon and Bunnies to be in different brackets instead of beating each other up. Maybe GoSioux will get his wish and get to play the one demensional Bunnies ....... and lose by 20

F'N Hawks
September 6th, 2017, 10:00 AM
So far you haven't posted anything relevant about the game. What's stopping you? Whiner.

I picked UND because they are at home but think Misery State has a great shot to win. UND's offense looked just as bad as Misery States defense so we'll see which one wins on Saturday. UND's OC needs to trust Studsrude more and let him throw to open up the run game IMO.

Thanks for chiming in, Dad. This thread is so ****ing sophomoric, meh.

F'N Hawks
September 6th, 2017, 10:03 AM
I think there is gonna be a combined 600+ passing yards in this one. Rushing will be just OK for both -- MSU's secondary is average but their receivers/tight ends are very good. UND struggles vs. teams that spread it out wide and go up-tempo. Tackling in space was horrific last week vs. Utah and they are a similar offense.

clenz
September 6th, 2017, 10:09 AM
And when it counts? Playoffs and especially Championships?
He needs to keep it to last year...because before that it gets real ugly, real fast, for the Big Sky

The Big Sky also greatly benefited from the worst UNI team in a few deacades.

First OOC road loss since 1997 and just the second OOC home loss since 1997 for UNI last year. Both happened to be Big Sky teams. Every other year over the 20 before that and the MVFC teaks a 5-2 lead

F'N Hawks
September 6th, 2017, 10:29 AM
He needs to keep it to last year...because before that it gets real ugly, real fast, for the Big Sky

The Big Sky also greatly benefited from the worst UNI team in a few deacades.

First OOC road loss since 1997 and just the second OOC home loss since 1997 for UNI last year. Both happened to be Big Sky teams. Every other year over the 20 before that and the MVFC teaks a 5-2 lead

I guess the NCC benefited from one of the worst UNI teams ever, also.

IBleedYellow
September 6th, 2017, 10:35 AM
UND probably wins.

Requiring another 4th quarter comeback.

abc123
September 6th, 2017, 11:35 AM
Now, if we give up 73 to UND this weekend, then I will be concerned.
As much as I like to see it, I feel confident UND won't score 73 this week. I also don't see Missouri State scoring 43.




He needs to keep it to last year...because before that it gets real ugly, real fast, for the Big Sky

The Big Sky also greatly benefited from the worst UNI team in a few deacades.

First OOC road loss since 1997 and just the second OOC home loss since 1997 for UNI last year. Both happened to be Big Sky teams. Every other year over the 20 before that and the MVFC teaks a 5-2 lead
No, I was just making a joke that I knew would ruffle some feathers since NDSU fans took over the thread. It's not like head to head (this year or last year or any year) really has much of a bearing since the match-ups are random.

I'm either reading it wrong or misunderstanding what you're getting at, but I'm pretty sure UNI has more OOC home losses than 2 since 1997. UND beat them in 2006, that can't be their only loss OOC at home in the last 20 years before this past season. Did you mean 2007?

clenz
September 6th, 2017, 12:21 PM
As much as I like to see it, I feel confident UND won't score 73 this week. I also don't see Missouri State scoring 43.



No, I was just making a joke that I knew would ruffle some feathers since NDSU fans took over the thread. It's not like head to head (this year or last year or any year) really has much of a bearing since the match-ups are random.

I'm either reading it wrong or misunderstanding what you're getting at, but I'm pretty sure UNI has more OOC home losses than 2 since 1997. UND beat them in 2006, that can't be their only loss OOC at home in the last 20 years before this past season. Did you mean 2007?
Sorry...Fourth loss. My sheets only had FCS games on it and I forgot about the 04 loss to SFA and counted the UND loss as one of the three so that made it two.... I have a sheet with every game ever played by a school in the MVFC in the OOC. I haven't updated the sheet with 2016 games - I probably should.

Anyway, all 41 UNI FCS OOC games since the start of 1997 split into road/home

35-6 in FCS games, 45-7 in FCS or lower games.

Away 12-3....12-1 since 1997


Year
Oppoenent
PA
PF
Delta
Result
Location
Conf.


1997
Cal Poly
38
24
-14
L
Away
Indy


1997
McNeese State
22
5
-17
L
Away
SLC


1998
Stephen F Austin
10
14
4
W
Away
SLC


1999
McNeese State
17
41
24
W
Away
SLC


2000
Cal Poly
41
43
2
W
Away
Indy


2002
Cal Poly
26
29
3
W
Away
Indy


2003
Stephen F Austin
24
38
14
W
Away
SLC


2004
Northern Arizona
21
45
24
W
Away
Big Sky


2006
South Dakota State
17
31
14
W
Away
Great West


2007
South Dakota State
17
31
14
W
Away
Great West


2010
South Dakota
14
19
5
W
Away
Great West


2011
Stephen F Austin
23
34
11
W
Away
SLC


2013
Northern Colorado
7
26
19
W
Away
Big Sky


2015
Cal Poly
20
34
14
W
Away
Big Sky


2016
Eastern Washington
34
30
-4
L
Away
Big Sky





Home 23-3 vs FCS....If we want to include D2 it goes to 33-4, but my list won't have those other 11 games on it


1997
Southern Utah
33
53
20
W
Home
Indy


1998
Cal Poly
7
31
24
W
Home
Indy


1998
McNeese State
20
17
-3
W
Home
SLC


1999
Cal Poly
21
42
21
W
Home
Indy


2000
Stephen F Austin
30
37
7
W
Home
SLC


2000
Prairie View A&M
14
60
46
W
Home
SWAC


2001
Cal Poly
13
31
18
W
Home
Indy


2002
Stephen F Austin
24
31
7
W
Home
SLC


2003
Northwestern State
10
43
33
W
Home
SLC


2004
Stephen F Austin
24
21
-3
L
Home
SLC


2005
Northern Arizona
17
41
24
W
Home
Big Sky


2005
Drake
17
52
35
W
Home
Pioneer


2006
Drake
7
48
41
W
Home
Pioneer


2007
Southern Utah
10
48
38
W
Home
Great West


2007
Drake
7
45
38
W
Home
Pioneer


2008
Nicholls State
14
34
20
W
Home
SLC


2009
South Dakota
7
66
59
W
Home
Great West


2009
Saint Francis
0
30
30
W
Home
NEC


2010
Stephen F Austin
22
20
-2
L
Home
SLC


2011
Southern Utah
21
34
13
W
Home
Great West


2013
Drake
14
45
31
W
Home
Pioneer


2013
McNeese State
6
41
35
W
Home
SLC


2014
Northern Colorado
7
46
39
W
Home
Big Sky


2014
Tennessee Tech
7
50
43
W
Home
OVC


2015
Eastern Washington
35
38
3
W
Home
Big Sky


2016
Montana
20
14
-6
L
Home
Big Sky





As I said, it took a historically bad UNI season. AAMOF, it was the 4th worst win% UNI has had since moving D1 in 1978, and that includes 2 of the first 4 years of being D1 (1978 and 1982) being worse. Realistically, it was the 2nd worst UNI team in D1 history

IBleedYellow
September 6th, 2017, 12:38 PM
...people really haven't figured out that you don't talk **** to Clenz when it comes to records, numbers, etc.

Unless you are 100% certain that you are right. He'll just drop facts in your face and prove the idiot that you are. xlolx

F'N Hawks
September 6th, 2017, 12:55 PM
...people really haven't figured out that you don't talk **** to Clenz when it comes to records, numbers, etc.

Unless you are 100% certain that you are right. He'll just drop facts in your face and prove the idiot that you are. xlolx

Who was he proving to? Nobody really said anything about UNI and their holier-than-though OOC record over the past 200 years. And the person who did comment on his post proved him wrong, no?

clenz
September 6th, 2017, 01:01 PM
There was a discussion about the Big Sky being better than he MVFC because of one extra win last year. A year UNI played 2 Big Sky games and lost in the OOC for the first time in 20 years on the road.

I can point out all other MVFC/Big Sky games and we can see who comes out in top.

Shall we compare FBS scalps of each conference?

ST_Lawson
September 6th, 2017, 01:04 PM
...people really haven't figured out that you don't talk **** to Clenz when it comes to records, numbers, etc.

Unless you are 100% certain that you are right. He'll just drop facts in your face and prove the idiot that you are. xlolx

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/013/034/yeahsciencebitch.PNG

F'N Hawks
September 6th, 2017, 01:09 PM
There was a discussion about the Big Sky being better than he MVFC because of one extra win last year. A year UNI played 2 Big Sky games and lost in the OOC for the first time in 20 years on the road.

I can point out all other MVFC/Big Sky games and we can see who comes out in top.

Shall we compare FBS scalps of each conference?

Maybe a new thread to break it all down for everyone? Yuuugely beneficial.

IBleedYellow
September 6th, 2017, 01:10 PM
It was a general statement.

abc123
September 6th, 2017, 02:09 PM
Sorry...Fourth loss. My sheets only had FCS games on it and I forgot about the 04 loss to SFA and counted the UND loss as one of the three so that made it two.... I have a sheet with every game ever played by a school in the MVFC in the OOC. I haven't updated the sheet with 2016 games - I probably should.

Anyway, all 41 UNI FCS OOC games since the start of 1997 split into road/home


That makes sense. I got a chuckle when you originally said that was only the second home OOC loss because I knew UND had beat them in that time span but figured that couldn't be the only other home loss. Either way, impressive.

clenz
September 6th, 2017, 02:32 PM
UND, all time, vs current MVFC schools

ISUr - never played
ISUb - never played
MSU - trails series 0-1 - last played 2014
NDSU - trails series 46-59-3 - last played 2015
UNI - trails series 13-25 - last played 2006
USD - leads series 55-28-5 - last played 2016
SDSU - trails series 34-43-5 - last played 2013
SIU - trails series 0-1 - last played 2008
WIU - leads series 1-0 - last played 1979
YSU - leads series 2-0 - last played 1962

F'N Hawks
September 6th, 2017, 02:33 PM
UND, all time, vs current MVFC schools

ISUr - never played
ISUb - never played
MSU - trails series 0-1 - last played 2014
NDSU - trails series 46-59-3 - last played 2015
UNI - trails series 13-25 - last played 2006
USD - leads series 55-28-5 - last played 2016
SDSU - trails series 34-43-5 - last played 2013
SIU - trails series 0-1 - last played 2008
WIU - leads series 1-0 - last played 1979
YSU - leads series 2-0 - last played 1962


Wut?

clenz
September 6th, 2017, 02:38 PM
Well, I was trying to keep this related to UND.

F'N Hawks
September 6th, 2017, 02:53 PM
Well, I was trying to keep this related to UND.

Those records accurate?

Bison56
September 6th, 2017, 03:00 PM
Those records accurate?

Dumbest question so far.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTEP4QKGn4yxmma4aEnmu4-T7aTuYLUni8WSxrayWIM1I7vh-7l (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj1-MaFsZHWAhUI-J8KHSPaCAAQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DNm 1YBdI4keU&psig=AFQjCNH7QS2861vPyuQiJ7Tp2CigphSfHA&ust=1504815573064771)

clenz
September 6th, 2017, 03:17 PM
Those records accurate?
Nope.

Completely made up.

abc123
September 6th, 2017, 03:28 PM
Nope.

Completely made up.
Well......

Here's what UND's media guide shows:
ISUr - leads series 1-0 - last played 1979
ISUb - never played
MSU - trails series 0-1 - last played 2014
NDSU - leads series 62-46-3 - last played 2015
UNI - trails series 13-24 - last played 2006
USD - leads series 61-29-5 - last played 2016
SDSU - leads series 46-34-5 - last played 2013
SIU - trails series 0-1 - last played 2008
WIU - leads series 1-0 - last played 1979
YSU - leads series 2-0 - last played 1962

Whatever you were using was way off on NDSU and SDSU, basically had the wins and losses flipped. Looked like they were also missing the last 6 games against USD.

F'N Hawks
September 6th, 2017, 03:32 PM
Nope.

Completely made up.

Kind of appears that way, mission accomplished.

Wilson16
September 6th, 2017, 03:59 PM
This thread sucks.
Yet you took time to post in it

clenz
September 6th, 2017, 04:01 PM
UND vs the MEAC

Howard leads the series 69-3
NCA&T leads the series 4-0-7
FAMU leads the series 1-0
Savannah State trails the series 2-3
Bethune-Cookman sereis is tied at 4
Delaware State leads the series 1-0-12
Hampton leads the series 8-7-57
Morgan State trails the series 6-9-3
Norfolk State leads the series 54-1
NC Central trails the series 1-3
SCSU leads the series 21-3-6.93

Wilson16
September 6th, 2017, 04:06 PM
Well......

Here's what UND's media guide shows:
ISUr - leads series 1-0 - last played 1979
ISUb - never played
MSU - trails series 0-1 - last played 2014
NDSU - leads series 62-46-3 - last played 2015
UNI - trails series 13-24 - last played 2006
USD - leads series 61-29-5 - last played 2016
SDSU - leads series 46-34-5 - last played 2013
SIU - trails series 0-1 - last played 2008
WIU - leads series 1-0 - last played 1979
YSU - leads series 2-0 - last played 1962

Whatever you were using was way off on NDSU and SDSU, basically had the wins and losses flipped. Looked like they were also missing the last 6 games against USD.
He wrote it how he wanted to. You just didn't understand it.

F'N Hawks
September 6th, 2017, 04:07 PM
UND vs the MEAC

Howard leads the series 69-3
NCA&T leads the series 4-0-7
FAMU leads the series 1-0
Savannah State trails the series 2-3
Bethune-Cookman sereis is tied at 4
Delaware State leads the series 1-0-12
Hampton leads the series 8-7-57
Morgan State trails the series 6-9-3
Norfolk State leads the series 54-1
NC Central trails the series 1-3
SCSU leads the series 21-3-6.93

A moment of silence for our friend Clenz, please.

abc123
September 6th, 2017, 04:14 PM
He wrote it how he wanted to. You just didn't understand it.
I guess I didn't have the secret decoder ring to figure out which half were written backwards since that is the only way it makes sense.




Dumbest question so far.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTEP4QKGn4yxmma4aEnmu4-T7aTuYLUni8WSxrayWIM1I7vh-7l (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj1-MaFsZHWAhUI-J8KHSPaCAAQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DNm 1YBdI4keU&psig=AFQjCNH7QS2861vPyuQiJ7Tp2CigphSfHA&ust=1504815573064771)
Yeah, actually it wasn't...

F'N Hawks
September 6th, 2017, 04:17 PM
I guess I didn't have the secret decoder ring to figure out which half were written backwards since that is the only way it makes sense.



http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26012&stc=1

Wilson16
September 6th, 2017, 04:33 PM
I guess I didn't have the secret decoder ring to figure out which half were written backwards since that is the only way it makes sense.




Yeah, actually it wasn't...
I thought you got a secret decoder ring with your season ticket package up there. Gotta do something to put 10k in the building

UNIFanSince1983
September 6th, 2017, 04:43 PM
I am so confused.

geaux_sioux
September 6th, 2017, 05:33 PM
This is good. Rivalries in the MVFC will be quick to form/continue. Lots of hate.

Bison Fan in NW MN
September 6th, 2017, 05:44 PM
This is good. Rivalries in the MVFC will be quick to form/continue. Lots of hate.


What will be good is that every other fan base will hate UND when they come into the league.

geaux_sioux
September 6th, 2017, 05:54 PM
What will be good is that every other fan base will hate UND when they come into the league.
I know, it will be a blast.

Bison Fan in NW MN
September 6th, 2017, 06:03 PM
I know, it will be a blast.



Yes it will be. I love my dislike of GFCC and will enjoy getting you guys in a frenzy.

Schism55
September 6th, 2017, 06:10 PM
I know, it will be a blast.
That's absolutely the right mindset xthumbsupx
UND to the MVFC is 100% set in stone?

centennial
September 6th, 2017, 06:26 PM
That's absolutely the right mindset xthumbsupx
UND to the MVFC is 100% set in stone?

They should back out and join the OVC.

GodHelpTheBears
September 6th, 2017, 06:42 PM
This is good. Rivalries in the MVFC will be quick to form/continue. Lots of hate.

That has literally been the opposite of our experience here

BisonTru
September 6th, 2017, 08:03 PM
They should back out and join the pioneer.

fyp. xsmiley_wix

UNHWildcat18
September 6th, 2017, 08:41 PM
Kinda rooting for MSU, I don't know why...... help

Bison Fan in NW MN
September 6th, 2017, 08:58 PM
Kinda rooting for MSU, I don't know why...... help


Why?

Cus GFCC sucks!!!

ST_Lawson
September 6th, 2017, 08:59 PM
Kinda rooting for MSU, I don't know why...... help

Lovable loosers, maybe? (I'm a Cubs fan, I can say that ;))

Honestly, I'd love to see them go 10-1 in a season (only losing to us, of course).


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UNHWildcat18
September 6th, 2017, 09:23 PM
Why?

Cus GFCC sucks!!!

I think it's because I want them to succeed finally, that and I enjoy the NDSU fans laughing at UND fans when they lose.

Bison Fan in NW MN
September 6th, 2017, 09:25 PM
I think it's because I want them to succeed finally, that and I enjoy the NDSU fans laughing at UND fans when they lose.


You haven't seen nothing yet....wait until they finally join the conference in '20.

geaux_sioux
September 6th, 2017, 09:53 PM
You haven't seen nothing yet....wait until they finally join the conference in '20.

You catch any of that volleyball match tonight?

GodHelpTheBears
September 6th, 2017, 09:56 PM
Lovable loosers, maybe? (I'm a Cubs fan, I can say that ;))

Honestly, I'd love to see them go 10-1 in a season (only losing to us, of course).


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Like your Cubs, for a large period of our futility we weren't really trying to compete (i.e. investing in program facilities, coaching salaries, funding scholarships to a level that players could stay through the summer, etc). Decades of this led to...well, you know.

Since everyone else has tried to derail this thread, might as well mention I was at Wrigley on Friday. Hell of an atmosphere, pretty damn drafty too

BisonTru
September 6th, 2017, 09:57 PM
You catch any of that volleyball match tonight?

No.

Maybe you can revive your old thread.
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?123632-Women-s-Volleyball&highlight=volleyball

Bison Fan in NW MN
September 6th, 2017, 09:58 PM
You catch any of that volleyball match tonight?

No. GFCC win?

centennial
September 6th, 2017, 10:01 PM
Kinda rooting for MSU, I don't know why...... help

One of us! one of us! one of us!

Welcome to the club. Brought to you by Casey's.

Bison Fan in NW MN
September 6th, 2017, 10:02 PM
I see they lost. Lynn Dorm and former coach Thompson gutted the program. Hinterstocker had the program rolling, hopefully Lopez can bring it back

GodHelpTheBears
September 6th, 2017, 10:02 PM
One of us! one of us! one of us!

Welcome to the club. Brought to you by Casey's.

Breakfast pizza to the right, back by the fountain drinks.

cx500d
September 6th, 2017, 10:05 PM
Breakfast pizza to the right, back by the fountain drinks.

#NotAPizza

geaux_sioux
September 6th, 2017, 10:44 PM
I see they lost. Lynn Dorm and former coach Thompson gutted the program. Hinterstocker had the program rolling, hopefully Lopez can bring it back
Sellout crowd of 3400+. Apparently they had to turn people away at the door. Apparently our new coach is even better than the drunk one was.

cx500d
September 6th, 2017, 10:47 PM
Sellout crowd of 3400+. Apparently they had to turn people away at the door. Apparently our new coach is even better than the drunk one was.

Was the drunk one hot at least?

clenz
September 7th, 2017, 06:23 AM
You catch any of that volleyball match tonight?

You wanna play UNI in volleyball?

We're only 5-2 with 2 top 20 wins. The two loses were to a top 10 and top 15 team. We're ranked 27th nationally.

I think it'd be fun

Couldn't go worse than your basketball games against uni.

geaux_sioux
September 7th, 2017, 07:17 AM
Was the drunk one hot at least?
He's like a 7.... an 8 if you're drunk too

- - - Updated - - -


You wanna play UNI in volleyball?

We're only 5-2 with 2 top 20 wins. The two loses were to a top 10 and top 15 team. We're ranked 27th nationally.

I think it'd be fun

Couldn't go worse than your basketball games against uni.

It would be fun.

BisonBacker
September 7th, 2017, 08:36 AM
I thought you got a secret decoder ring with your season ticket package up there. Gotta do something to put 10k in the building

Delivered by their coach on a golf cart no less xlolx Don't forget the buy one get one free offer. Gotta do something to get butts in the seats.

nodak651
September 7th, 2017, 11:52 AM
Delivered by their coach on a golf cart no less xlolx Don't forget the buy one get one free offer. Gotta do something to get butts in the seats.

Fake news!!! Was actually the helmet car! God.... so happy the Mussman era is over lol.

nodak651
September 7th, 2017, 11:59 AM
You wanna play UNI in volleyball?

We're only 5-2 with 2 top 20 wins. The two loses were to a top 10 and top 15 team. We're ranked 27th nationally.

I think it'd be fun

Couldn't go worse than your basketball games against uni.

UNI's volleyball program is impressive. It's an underrated sport, and very entertaining in person, much more so than woman's basketball. UND and UNI should defiantly play each other. What's the deal with the MVC in volleyball this year though? They are down to the 14th ranked conference.

ST_Lawson
September 7th, 2017, 01:08 PM
UNI's volleyball program is impressive. It's an underrated sport, and very entertaining in person, much more so than woman's basketball. UND and UNI should defiantly play each other. What's the deal with the MVC in volleyball this year though? They are down to the 14th ranked conference.

Hell, our volleyball team sucks but it is a fun sport to watch. I try to take my daughter to at least one or two home matches a season.

clenz
September 7th, 2017, 01:34 PM
UNI's volleyball program is impressive. It's an underrated sport, and very entertaining in person, much more so than woman's basketball. UND and UNI should defiantly play each other. What's the deal with the MVC in volleyball this year though? They are down to the 14th ranked conference.
Couldn't tell you were the conference ranks.

UNI is 27th
Missouri State is 30th

UNI has a top 10 in the nation win % the last 18 years, top 10 in attendance every year, multiple S16s, hosted NCAA tournament rounds multiple times, 12 NCAA trips in 18 years, 7 regular season titles, 8 tournament titles, won at least 20 matches in 16 of 18 years. Our HC is currently 12th all time for coaching win % at 77% and 10th in active coaches, 41st all time in wins. 2 years ago UNI ranked first int he nation in digs and attacks.

The rest of the conferece? DGAF. UNI will continue to be a top 25 caliber team every year no matter what Indiana State, Drake, Valpo and Evansville do.

UNIFanSince1983
September 7th, 2017, 01:36 PM
Couldn't tell you were the conference ranks.

UNI is 27th
Missouri State is 30th

UNI has a top 10 in the nation win % the last 18 years, top 10 in attendance every year, multiple S16s, hosted NCAA tournament rounds multiple times, 12 NCAA trips in 18 years, 7 regular season titles, 8 tournament titles, won at least 20 matches in 16 of 18 years. Our HC is currently 12th all time for coaching win % at 77% and 10th in active coaches, 41st all time in wins. 2 years ago UNI ranked first int he nation in digs and attacks.

The rest of the conferece? DGAF. UNI will continue to be a top 25 caliber team every year no matter what Indiana State, Drake, Valpo and Evansville do.

Losing WSU doesn't exactly help the conference volleyball profile. Oh and losing Creighton didn't help either, but that was a few years ago.

Thumper 76
September 7th, 2017, 01:52 PM
#NotAPizza

You shut your whore mouth and worry about your BBQ down there Tex


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clenz
September 7th, 2017, 02:13 PM
Losing WSU doesn't exactly help the conference volleyball profile. Oh and losing Creighton didn't help either, but that was a few years ago.
That was the elephant I didn't think had to be talked about.

Creighton is currently ranked 9th in the county
Wichita State is currently ranked 23rd in the country

Loyola replaced Creighton and hasn't finished outside of the bottom 3 and was 162 in the final RPI last year - 6th in the MVC last year
Valpo is the WSU replacement and they were 184 - 7th out of 9 in the Horizon League

Meanwhile the top of the conference RPI last year was 35 (WSU), 45 (UNI) 46 (MSU), 71 (SIU)...then a drop to 130 (ISUr)...then a 30 spot drop to the rest.

I suppose that explains the drop.

Though if you want to look at how goofy the RPI is - the Horizon finished 2 spots ahead of the MVC in volleyball RPI last year...let's compare the conferences



HL
MVC


37

35


72
45


105
46


121
71


146
130


182
162


184
165


198
234


217
256



271




So the bottom 3 of the league legit drop the MVC probably 3 spots in the conference RPI rankings. Raplacing 35 with 184 is going to crush it even more. Doesn't matter - UNI, SIU and MSU will continue to cruise along.

cx500d
September 7th, 2017, 05:57 PM
He's like a 7.... an 8 if you're drunk too

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It would be fun.

Oh, a dude. We normally hire lesbians.


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cx500d
September 7th, 2017, 06:00 PM
You shut your whore mouth and worry about your BBQ down there Tex


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I don't worry about our BBQ. It's the best, and we keep out that vinegary Carolina pig crap and no sweet tea and we are fine.


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Schism55
September 7th, 2017, 06:14 PM
I don't worry about our BBQ. It's the best, and we keep out that vinegary Carolina pig crap and no sweet tea and we are fine.


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Amen brother!
1. Sweet tea can f@*k right off.
2. I may have had a couple minor cardiac infarctions after glorious meals at Franklins and La Barbeque :D

citdog
September 7th, 2017, 06:19 PM
I don't worry about our BBQ. It's the best, and we keep out that vinegary Carolina pig crap and no sweet tea and we are fine.


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It is NOT Q if it moos. It is Q ONLY if it oinks and squeals like Ned Beatty on a rafting trip. REAL Carolina Q sauce is made from MUSTARD.

geaux_sioux
September 7th, 2017, 06:23 PM
It is NOT Q if it moos. It is Q ONLY if it oinks and squeals like Ned Beatty on a rafting trip. REAL Carolina Q sauce is made from MUSTARD.

I like all kinds of BBQ but I agree with schism, **** sweet tea.

citdog
September 7th, 2017, 06:25 PM
I like all kinds of BBQ but I agree with schism, **** sweet tea.


NOPE **** YOU!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1baryss32E

BisonFan02
September 7th, 2017, 06:28 PM
http://www.brisketnmb.com/

Finally....a winner has been crowned. :D

citdog
September 7th, 2017, 06:32 PM
http://www.brisketnmb.com/

Finally....a winner has been crowned. :D

PERFECT place for it too. Right smack dab in the middle of the Redneck Riviera...

BisonFan02
September 7th, 2017, 06:34 PM
PERFECT place for it too. Right smack dab in the middle of the Redneck Riviera...

Sir? :D

http://lewisbarbecue.com/

GodHelpTheBears
September 7th, 2017, 06:55 PM
Tea? TEA?

Our forefathers fought a war so we wouldn't have to drink that nasty crap. One of the pivotal moments in the founding of our nation was throwing tea off a ship!

Drink coffee and beer (preferably both at the same time) like a man.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjJ0-y6opTWAhVk4IMKHZRCCBQQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DVC DDQcNWWwU&psig=AFQjCNFmU0HoBINT5SFjcaVZaTXrDYItxQ&ust=1504914749206922https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjJ0-y6opTWAhVk4IMKHZRCCBQQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DVC DDQcNWWwU&psig=AFQjCNFmU0HoBINT5SFjcaVZaTXrDYItxQ&ust=1504914749206922https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj6q5TMopTWAhUH_IMKHer-AZ8QjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Fmothersbrewi ng%2Fthe-cupboard%2F&psig=AFQjCNFmU0HoBINT5SFjcaVZaTXrDYItxQ&ust=1504914749206922https://i.pinimg.com/736x/aa/f3/f0/aaf3f05b0533cedd8305398d9ff7f8e2.jpg

cx500d
September 7th, 2017, 07:03 PM
It is Q ONLY if it oinks and squeals like Ned Beatty on a rafting trip.

Coming from the Citadel I'm sure you are well versed in what that sounds like.

cx500d
September 7th, 2017, 07:05 PM
http://www.brisketnmb.com/

Finally....a winner has been crowned. :D


We have a BBQ infiltrator in the Carolinas....Real Texas BBQ will soon run those pig in a poke places out of business...

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Tea? TEA?

Our forefathers fought a war so we wouldn't have to drink that nasty crap. One of the pivotal moments in the founding of our nation was throwing tea off a ship!

Drink coffee and beer (preferably both at the same time) like a man.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjJ0-y6opTWAhVk4IMKHZRCCBQQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DVC DDQcNWWwU&psig=AFQjCNFmU0HoBINT5SFjcaVZaTXrDYItxQ&ust=1504914749206922https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjJ0-y6opTWAhVk4IMKHZRCCBQQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DVC DDQcNWWwU&psig=AFQjCNFmU0HoBINT5SFjcaVZaTXrDYItxQ&ust=1504914749206922https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj6q5TMopTWAhUH_IMKHer-AZ8QjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Fmothersbrewi ng%2Fthe-cupboard%2F&psig=AFQjCNFmU0HoBINT5SFjcaVZaTXrDYItxQ&ust=1504914749206922https://i.pinimg.com/736x/aa/f3/f0/aaf3f05b0533cedd8305398d9ff7f8e2.jpg

Obviously BBQ is better with an icy cold Lone Star, but not that bottled oatmeal.

GodHelpTheBears
September 7th, 2017, 07:07 PM
We have a BBQ infiltrator in the Carolinas....Real Texas BBQ will soon run those pig in a poke places out of business...

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Obviously BBQ is better with an icy cold Lone Star, but not that bottled oatmeal.

I would hope Texans don't appreciate good stouts with how hot it gets down there. You pretty much have to drink light stuff. (I didn't see oatmeal on the sell sheet, but I don't doubt it is in there somewhere.)

As an aside, that beer somehow gives you a coffee buzz and beer buzz at the same time. Weird the first time, pleasing each time after.

cx500d
September 7th, 2017, 07:16 PM
Sir? :D

http://lewisbarbecue.com/


Winner Winner, Brisket Dinner! Deep in the heart of Dixie!

cx500d
September 7th, 2017, 07:17 PM
I would hope Texans don't appreciate good stouts with how hot it gets down there. You pretty much have to drink light stuff. (I didn't see oatmeal on the sell sheet, but I don't doubt it is in there somewhere.)

As an aside, that beer somehow gives you a coffee buzz and beer buzz at the same time. Weird the first time, pleasing each time after.


I had to give up coffee at one point, my trigger finger got too twitchy...

GodHelpTheBears
September 7th, 2017, 07:18 PM
I had to give up coffee at one point, my trigger finger got too twitchy...

Coming from hillbilly stock, coffee has no strong effect on me. Generations of heavy amphetamine use have built a high tolerance in our genes.

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 02:20 PM
As game time draws closer, I'll bump this a couple of times.

Everybody feel good? NDSU fans, feel good about putting your trolling faith in Missouri State?

I physically feel like crap - my throat's on fire, I've dozed off a couple of times and I've had another one or two symptoms I probably shouldn't detail in public, but I'm sticking in.

cx500d
September 9th, 2017, 02:28 PM
As game time draws closer, I'll bump this a couple of times.

Everybody feel good? NDSU fans, feel good about putting your trolling faith in Missouri State?

I physically feel like crap - my throat's on fire, I've dozed off a couple of times and I've had another one or two symptoms I probably shouldn't detail in public, but I'm sticking in.


We never feel good about putting faith in Misery State

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 02:52 PM
We never feel good about putting faith in Misery State

Yet you all dive in head first. Admirable.

cx500d
September 9th, 2017, 02:53 PM
Yet you all dive in head first. Admirable.

We dive in head first trolling the fn hawks

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 03:58 PM
I hope Pluto TV is a more consistent streaming platform than ESPN3 has been lately.

cx500d
September 9th, 2017, 04:00 PM
I hope Pluto TV is a more consistent streaming platform than ESPN3 has been lately.

Uranus TV would be more reliable

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 04:01 PM
Any second now...

I admire how the Big Sky conference still lists game times on their channel in Eastern

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 04:12 PM
Game time listed at 4 pm

4:12 pm, stream hasn't started and game hasn't kicked off yet

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 04:14 PM
Nvm, our offense is crap on a stick again

This one should be over by 5

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 04:20 PM
UND chip shot FG attempt pushed!

Still 0-0

I will laugh if this turns into a defensive battle

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 04:24 PM
Two three and outs for MSU to start

I had a hunch UM-C's crappy defense made our offense look better than it was

UND brings the punt return deep into our territory

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 04:29 PM
3-0 UND, should be 14-0 UND. Given how events have unfolded so far, this is MSU's best case scenario.

Seen nothing from our offense to think it will get unstuck. UND's line is getting good push.

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 04:39 PM
Fast first - 3-0 UND.

I'm surprised the Hawks don't have this one in hand by now. Our offense is stuck in concrete - one first down, then immediately got a false start penalty.

The defense has shown quite a bit of heart, getting two red zone stops.

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 04:45 PM
OH COME THE **** ON

Ball tipped twice...right into a UND receiver's breadbasket. Big gain for UND.

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 04:49 PM
10-0 UND

Two Modelos deep. I will be going deeper.

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 04:59 PM
For a certain fan base not directly involved with this game that may be interested, the UND announcers noted that "Fighting Hawkerchiefs" were handed out to fans at the game today

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 05:07 PM
17-0 UND. Hope is for squares.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLfCnGVeL4

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 05:10 PM
UND interception

Once again deep in MSU territory

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 05:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6LAVk1sHW8

BisonTru
September 9th, 2017, 05:14 PM
For a certain fan base not directly involved with this game that may be interested, the UND announcers noted that "Fighting Hawkerchiefs" were handed out to fans at the game today

We donated them. It's for their wives. We were going to do paper bags, but we are a classy bunch. 😉


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GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 05:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8MnFqzW408

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 05:19 PM
The most tragic part about all of this to me is, year after year, how much money could have been put into things that would have been productive for my alma mater.

We could have funneled that cash into general scholarship money, or academic buildings, the library, endowed chairs...

But no, every goddamn season we have to keep beating our brains against the thick brick wall that is football, and pretend our team will ever be worth a damn.

It won't. Everyone who pays attention knows it won't. OUR LEADERSHIP KNOWS IT WON'T. But they won't do anything about it because they are gutless, sackless cowards.

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 05:22 PM
The football thing needs to end. It is a dead end for our university. We need every available cent we can get - we are not a major university that can flush millions down a toilet.

I now know what I must do. I love my alma mater. I love my home town. We deserve better. Only dissolution of the football program is sufficent now. No equivocation. No compromise. No quarter.

Football must go. For the sake of old Missouri State, football must go. Our university will never reach its full potential with this bloodsucking leech attached.

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 05:26 PM
As for North Dakota, I think you will slide into the Valley and acquit yourselves well. If only you were replacing us...

cx500d
September 9th, 2017, 05:38 PM
Can we trade Misery State to the SLC? PVA&M would be an improvement too

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 05:41 PM
Can we trade Misery State to the SLC? PVA&M would be an improvement too

If we'd just pull the damn plug you all wouldn't have to consider this.

I wish I knew what having a real football team is like, but I made my choice years ago. I never will. The degree has been good to me, though.

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 05:56 PM
We fumbled at the UND 1...

I mean everything about this is so obviously at a dead end. We've tried everything. It's time to give up. We respect that we tried, but we understand that it won't ever work.

I feel for the players that were lied to and told they could win at this level, when they should be at a mediocre MIAA school. They put in the work every day, but they will never be good enough. I find their perseverence admirable.

centennial
September 9th, 2017, 06:00 PM
Missouri State. I had some hope. Teams can have bad games.

citdog
September 9th, 2017, 06:01 PM
The most tragic part about all of this to me is, year after year, how much money could have been put into things that would have been productive for my alma mater.

We could have funneled that cash into general scholarship money, or academic buildings, the library, endowed chairs...

But no, every goddamn season we have to keep beating our brains against the thick brick wall that is football, and pretend our team will ever be worth a damn.

It won't. Everyone who pays attention knows it won't. OUR LEADERSHIP KNOWS IT WON'T. But they won't do anything about it because they are gutless, sackless cowards.

You operate with ZERO of the limitations The Citadel does yet you a civilian school EXACTLY like 500 others can' win but WE can? Sack up Bro..

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 06:02 PM
Missouri State. I had some hope. Teams can have bad games.

It's been a bad...at least 25 years. The Bears have not been close to the postseason in my lifetime.

There are bad games, then there are bad programs. You will never have to know this first hand.

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You operate with ZERO of the limitations The Citadel does yet you a civilian school EXACTLY like 500 others can' win but WE can? Sack up Bro..

Yet you have traditions, rivals, and a history of success. We have none of the above.

Your program is in far better shape and has a much higher ceiling.

Professor Chaos
September 9th, 2017, 06:59 PM
So how bad is Mizzou's defense to give up 43 points to this Missouri St team?

cx500d
September 9th, 2017, 07:15 PM
So how bad is Mizzou's defense to give up 43 points to this Missouri St team?
Thats why I had hope for this game...

Bisonator
September 9th, 2017, 07:27 PM
So how bad is Mizzou's defense to give up 43 points to this Missouri St team?
No **** I thought misery state might have a chance but they still suck.

centennial
September 9th, 2017, 07:40 PM
Turns out both Missouri teams suck.

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 07:42 PM
I don't know if any of you subjected yourself to MSU-UM-C, but UM-C had the worst defense I've seen for a team at that level. They were constantly out of position, constantly blowing assignments, and that's when I could tell what their assignments were. They tried gimmicky crap and I think it confused their guys. Our scores were for the most part by players who were untouched.

UM-C simplified their stuff at the half and shut our offense down in the second half. I kinda thought it was a false positive.

Our only shot at a win this year is next week vs. Murray State.

geaux_sioux
September 9th, 2017, 07:44 PM
Thing is, we're not good. They were worse.

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 07:44 PM
Thing is, we're not good. They were worse.

I have to agree. Your guys should have put it away in the first quarter. The final score could have been much worse.

cx500d
September 9th, 2017, 07:45 PM
Thing is, we're not good. They were worse.

At this time all I can say is I have no idea how good the fn hawks are

GodHelpTheBears
September 9th, 2017, 07:48 PM
Also, folks, this is why you don't give a guy with a 5-17 record a contract extension

clenz
September 9th, 2017, 09:33 PM
Congrats on beating the worst MVFC program.

You're still minus four Delta with them.

MVFC about to lead the challenge 4-1.

Wilson16
September 9th, 2017, 09:45 PM
Congrats on beating the worst MVFC program.

You're still minus four Delta with them.

MVFC about to lead the challenge 4-1.
Bunnies and Bobcats is turning into a tight game

BisonTru
September 9th, 2017, 09:48 PM
Bunnies and Kittens is turning into a tight game

FYP

F'N Hawks
September 9th, 2017, 11:27 PM
Congrats on beating the worst MVFC program.

You're still minus four Delta with them.

MVFC about to lead the challenge 4-1.

You guys played well tonight, congrats on the win.

Wilson16
September 10th, 2017, 10:56 AM
UND looks to be the class of the Big Sky. Should be an interesting rest of the year

cx500d
September 10th, 2017, 11:03 AM
UND looks to be the class of the Big Sky. Should be an interesting rest of the year

We shall see. UND is a complete unknown IMO, their one win was against a Div2 opponent. Portland and Weber have showed something and will be interesting to see what they got.

citdog
September 10th, 2017, 11:05 AM
We shall see. UND is a complete unknown IMO, their one win was against a Div2 opponent. Portland and Weber have showed something and will be interesting to see what they got.

Agreed.