Labor Day Classic between Texas Southern and Prairie View postponed due to Harvey

[ASU33]

http://abc13.com/sports/labor-day-classic-tsu-and-prairie-view-a-m-game-postponed-due-to-harvey/2351871/

Game will be played Thanksgiving weekend.

[Milktruck74]

after watching them play FAMU and knowing a little something about PVAM.....Harvey saved us!!!!

[Panther88]

That was pretty much a given. Way too much damage downtown that will take a few weeks to simply look @ once the waters recede.

Looks like it will be SHSU for game #1 for PVAMU.

[ASU33]

I imagine there will be more canceled games in the area also.

[CHIP72]

I imagine there will be more canceled games in the area also.

Probably not, at least at the DI-A and DI-AA levels, because there aren't many games in the heavy flood zone that were scheduled to be played this weekend. (There are also very few DII and DIII teams based in the flooded areas.)

I discussed this on the 506 Sports forum. (That site is best known for providing maps of what NFL games will be televised in various locations.) Look at Reply Post #16 in this link: http://506sports.com/forum/index.php?topic=20540.0. If you can't access the post, here's a quick summary:

DI-A/FBS:
*Houston - road
*Rice - off
*Texas A&M - road
*Texas - home (lesser flood area)
*Texas State - home (lesser flood area)

DI-AA/FCS:
*Texas Southern - postponed
*Houston Baptist - road
*Prairie View A&M - road (but postponed - TSU was opponent)
*Sam Houston State - off (though Richmond game could still be rescheduled)
*Lamar - road
*McNeese State - road

It is pretty much a given the Brigham Young/Louisiana State game that was scheduled to be played in Houston on Saturday night will be moved; we just don't know where. According to a comment by an LSU spokesperson on Sunday, a total of five alternate sites are under consideration (which I'm almost definite includes Baton Rouge and New Orleans).

It is possible the Texas (Austin) and Texas State (San Marcos, which is between Austin and San Antonio but closer to Austin) games will be postponed, but I think the flooding there will be mild enough to allow the games to be played on Saturday as scheduled. It is also possible some areas of Louisiana outside the southwestern part of the state may have some flooding; I didn't check those teams.

[ASU33]

Probably not, at least at the DI-A and DI-AA levels, because there aren't many games in the heavy flood zone that were scheduled to be played this weekend. (There are also very few DII and DIII teams based in the flooded areas.)

I discussed this on the 506 Sports forum. (That site is best known for providing maps of what NFL games will be televised in various locations.) Look at Reply Post #16 in this link: http://506sports.com/forum/index.php?topic=20540.0. If you can't access the post, here's a quick summary:

DI-A/FBS:
*Houston - road
*Rice - off
*Texas A&M - road
*Texas - home (lesser flood area)
*Texas State - home (lesser flood area)

DI-AA/FCS:
*Texas Southern - postponed
*Houston Baptist - road
*Prairie View A&M - road (but postponed - TSU was opponent)
*Sam Houston State - off (though Richmond game could still be rescheduled)
*Lamar - road
*McNeese State - road

It is pretty much a given the Brigham Young/Louisiana State game that was scheduled to be played in Houston on Saturday night will be moved; we just don't know where. According to a comment by an LSU spokesperson on Sunday, a total of five alternate sites are under consideration (which I'm almost definite includes Baton Rouge and New Orleans).

It is possible the Texas (Austin) and Texas State (San Marcos, which is between Austin and San Antonio but closer to Austin) games will be postponed, but I think the flooding there will be mild enough to allow the games to be played on Saturday as scheduled. It is also possible some areas of Louisiana outside the southwestern part of the state may have some flooding; I didn't check those teams.

Good info man!

[Panther88]

The texans play Thursday, I think. I cannot imagine that game occurring, considering. But I'm not in the know of how that SW side of htown fared during the flood.

[CHIP72]

The texans play Thursday, I think. I cannot imagine that game occurring, considering. But I'm not in the know of how that SW side of htown fared during the flood.

It was announced a short time ago the Cowboys/Texans preseason game was moved to Arlington.

Also announced literally just a few minutes ago was that the Brigham Young/Louisiana State game scheduled to be played in Houston has been moved to New Orleans.

Finally, switching sports, it was announced earlier this afternoon the Rangers/Astros MLB series on Tuesday through Thursday was moved to St. Petersburg, FL (Tropicana Field, home of the Tampa Bay Rays). I suspect the Mets/Astros series scheduled for Friday through Sunday in Houston will also be played in St. Petersburg.

[citdog]

Teams in REAL FCS Conferences will be having this thing called PLAYOFFS then.

[Milktruck74]

Teams in REAL FCS Conferences will be having this thing called PLAYOFFS then.

Ouch...well played!!! we have an AGS winner!!!!!!!

[cx500d]

It was announced a short time ago the Cowboys/Texans preseason game was moved to Arlington.

Also announced literally just a few minutes ago was that the Brigham Young/Louisiana State game scheduled to be played in Houston has been moved to New Orleans.

Finally, switching sports, it was announced earlier this afternoon the Rangers/Astros MLB series on Tuesday through Thursday was moved to St. Petersburg, FL (Tropicana Field, home of the Tampa Bay Rays). I suspect the Mets/Astros series scheduled for Friday through Sunday in Houston will also be played in St. Petersburg.


Why would the move the Rangers/Astro's to Tampa where neither team has fans? They should have moved it to DFW where someone can actually make some money, and there is a reasonable amount of Houston fans also.

[CHIP72]

Why would the move the Rangers/Astro's to Tampa where neither team has fans? They should have moved it to DFW where someone can actually make some money, and there is a reasonable amount of Houston fans also.

I think the reasons MLB moved it there were to 1) avoid any rainouts due to Harvey (which I think would be unlikely at this point), 2) allow the Astros to not be at a disadvantage fan-wise (though the upcoming series could have been flip-flopped with a late September Rangers/Astros series scheduled for Arlington), and 3) allow the Astros to avoid extra travel (the Rangers are at home this coming weekend, and if this weekend's Mets/Astros series scheduled to be played in Houston gets moved, it will allow the Astros to stay in St. Petersburg; the Rays are on the road this entire week).

[ASU33]

Teams in REAL FCS Conferences will be having this thing called PLAYOFFS then.

For someone to be a fan of one of the "real" teams of FCS you sure seem to always seem to find your way on threads about the "non-real" teams.xcoffeex

[citdog]

For someone to be a fan of one of the "real" teams of FCS you sure seem to always seem to find your way on threads about the "non-real" teams.xcoffeex

Perhaps another board should be made for "Non Playoff FCS In Name Only" teams.

[Panther88]

Teams in REAL FCS Conferences will be having this thing called PLAYOFFS in front of an avg ~212-217 fans lol.

FIFY. Welcome.

[citdog]

We play for a fake championship that is on the wrong side of history

FIFY.

WELCOME!

[Panther88]

FIFY.

WELCOME!

You are NOT a fan so why the interest? Just keep ignoring as you "historically" would. None of us care, unless you are purchasing a ticket, serve on the ncaa gov'n board, or you are a member of the SWAC COP, which you are ridiculously far from.

Forgot, alabama is looking for an fcs whipping boy. Get there lol.

[dgtw]

Forgot, alabama is looking for an fcs whipping boy. Get there lol.


http://www.fbschedules.com/2016/05/alabama-the-citadel-2018-football-schedule/amp/


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[Panther88]

http://www.fbschedules.com/2016/05/alabama-the-citadel-2018-football-schedule/amp/


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"At least they will experience a huge payday and also what it feels like to play in front of a large crowd" - thought I'd take dracula's power away before he speaks.

[ASU33]

Perhaps another board should be made for "Non Playoff FCS In Name Only" teams.

Perhaps you should get off your confederate arse and make it then!xcoffeex

[Panther88]

Perhaps you should get off your confederate arse and make it then!xcoffeex

lol It's hard to maintain a semblance of civility when certain folks rear their ugly heads. A thread stating a delay in play between two intra-conference foes evokes a response regarding "playoffs." xsmhx

[dgtw]

"At least they will experience a huge payday and also what it feels like to play in front of a large crowd" - thought I'd take dracula's power away before he speaks.

And he can visit where Wallace stood in the schoolhouse door.


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[citdog]

lol It's hard to maintain a semblance of civility when certain folks rear their ugly heads. A thread stating a delay in play between two intra-conference foes evokes a response regarding "playoffs." xsmhx

I oppose segregation in all forms. It's a huge irony that y'all do not.

[Panther88]

And he can visit where Wallace stood in the schoolhouse door.
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He'll have a LOT of company visiting that spot, I'm sure. I see no problem w/ that. Do you?

[Panther88]

I oppose segregation in all forms. It's a huge irony that y'all do not.

Ummm.... who's segregating? I see 2 historically eldered conferences, who share a kinship of participation various members vs each other for well over 70+ years, pitting their champions against each other in a bowl game. Does your school/conference need to setup a convo w/ espn to highlight what others are vigorously and historically participating in during the holiday season? (bowl game) Should the pac xii/b1g champions start pissing each other because you don't like their historical setup?

FTR, fall 2017, PVAMU has SHSU, IWU, and Nicholls St as its OOC foes. Where oh where is this segregation you speak of? xsmhx

[Professor]

Seems like someone is a bit jealous

[citdog]

Ummm.... who's segregating? I see 2 historically eldered conferences, who share a kinship of participation various members vs each other for well over 70+ years, pitting their champions against each other in a bowl game. Does your school/conference need to setup a convo w/ espn to highlight what others are vigorously and historically participating in during the holiday season? (bowl game) Should the pac xii/b1g champions start pissing each other because you don't like their historical setup?

I'd rather play for a real championship against the best in the nation. Those FBS conferences you mentioned take part in the so called college football playoff and do not award the winner of their bowl game a national championship that only exists in their minds like your leagues do.

[ASU33]

I oppose segregation in all forms. It's a huge irony that y'all do not.

You trying to convince us or you?xeyebrowx

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Seems like someone is a bit jealous

Just a tad bit

[CHIP72]

For someone to be a fan of one of the "real" teams of FCS you sure seem to always seem to find your way on threads about the "non-real" teams.xcoffeex

It makes total sense considering Citdog is enamored with military history but went to one of the "non-real" military schools that isn't Army, Navy, or Air Force. :)


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[Panther88]

I'd rather play for a real championship against the best in the nation. Those FBS conferences you mentioned take part in the so called college football playoff and do not award the winner of their bowl game a national championship that only exists in their minds like your leagues do.

It seems to be working out for those who support those programs. And as such, our supporters haven't balked negatively so they like the idea of a season-ending bowl game vs another conf champion, not runner-up. I still don't see a problem, unless you're donating writing checks and have your butt in a seat to count towards attendance.

[citdog]

It makes total sense considering Citdog is enamored with military history but went to one of the "non-real" military schools that isn't Army, Navy, or Air Force. :)


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It was real in my mind.

xnodx

[citdog]

Seems like someone is a bit jealous

Don't mistake pity for jealousy.

[citdog]

You trying to convince us or you?xeyebrowx

Who is "us"? I thought we were all supposed to be Americans or something...

[CHIP72]

It was real in my mind.

xnodx

That explains a lot.


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[dgtw]

He'll have a LOT of company visiting that spot, I'm sure. I see no problem w/ that. Do you?

I've never seen it, but I think there is some sort of historical marker at the spot. They did a renovation a few years ago of the building they were trying to enter (now used for women's basketball) and I believe they put something up then to honor the students.


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[Professor]

Don't mistake pity for jealousy.

Lol , How can you have pity for a bowl game played in front of 35K plus which is on ABC and gets ESPN Gameday to do the kickoff show? I don't see them doing that for the FCS playoffs or championship. Not to mention the payout for the participating team and the conference. You have to pay for FCS, no one is making money on those games.

If that is what you pity then please continue. But i will call it like i see it. I'm pretty sure A&T has more name recognition than The Citadel. But hey, good luck to you guys

[Professor]

Who is "us"? I thought we were all supposed to be Americans or something...

Bwhahaa , All Americans now. We are talking about football conferences and you talking bout its segregation. And now you run to the other side of the field and say we are 1. Bwhahaha

[Panther88]

Bwhahaa , All Americans now. We are talking about football conferences and you talking bout its segregation. And now you run to the other side of the field and say we are 1. Bwhahaha

Some of these dudes are delusional. smh In their mind, they make a lot of sense playing basketball on a football field.

[GAD]

Some of these dudes are delusional. smh In their mind, they make a lot of sense playing basketball on a football field.
The first time I have ever seen a team so good they have to shrink the stadium and sell part of it as office space.xlolx
There is not one team in the SWAC that would tell you our stadium is just to big lets make it smaller

[citdog]

Lol , How can you have pity for a bowl game played in front of 35K plus which is on ABC and gets ESPN Gameday to do the kickoff show? I don't see them doing that for the FCS playoffs or championship. Not to mention the payout for the participating team and the conference. You have to pay for FCS, no one is making money on those games.

If that is what you pity then please continue. But i will call it like i see it. I'm pretty sure A&T has more name recognition than The Citadel. But hey, good luck to you guys

You are more delusional than awarding yourself a "national championship" that doesn't exist except in your mind if you think ANY school in your pretend FCS conferences is more famous than The Citadel. All of Europe is aware of SC's Military College. Some of our Sons are buried on their soil. The Major of St. Lo has his own holiday. Royals have visited our campus. Presidents speak to our Cadets. You can wallow in your own ignorance all you like but please don't think the rest of the world shares it.

[citdog]

The first time I have ever seen a team so good they have to shrink the stadium and sell part of it as office space.xlolx
There is not one team in the SWAC that would tell you our stadium is just to big lets make it smaller

You make all this money yet your facilities were falling apart and infested with bacteria not long ago. Where is all this money going? The taxpayers in South Carolina have had to bail out SC State TWICE now because of disappering money. Without those bailouts SC State would be closed. So goox luck to you with your delusions...

[citdog]

Bwhahaa , All Americans now. We are talking about football conferences and you talking bout its segregation. And now you run to the other side of the field and say we are 1. Bwhahaha

The only Americans interested in segregating yourselves from others is y'all. I must say I do appreciate the irony.

[Panther88]

The only Americans interested in segregating yourselves from others is y'all. I must say I do appreciate the irony.

cit, how is PVAMU segregating itself by playing SHSU, IUW, and Nicholls St all from the neighboring SLC conference? This math you're using doesn't add up, at all.

[Professor]

You are more delusional than awarding yourself a "national championship" that doesn't exist except in your mind if you think ANY school in your pretend FCS conferences is more famous than The Citadel. All of Europe is aware of SC's Military College. Some of our Sons are buried on their soil. The Major of St. Lo has his own holiday. Royals have visited our campus. Presidents speak to our Cadets. You can wallow in your own ignorance all you like but please don't think the rest of the world shares it.

Actually , it was ESPN created the national championship but that's what happens when u have corporate support. How your school is so famous when in the last 20 yrs you have had 6 winning seasons is beyond me but ok.

Every school has famous graduates. No need for all that other fluff your talking about. This is a football board.

[Professor]

The only Americans interested in segregating yourselves from others is y'all. I must say I do appreciate the irony.

It appears at that fine military college you attended , It doesn't seem that American History was taught.

[citdog]

It appears at that fine military college you attended , It doesn't seem that American History was taught.

Capt John Coussons, USNR Ret, would have begged to differ with your opinion. You are as entitled to it as you are your delusions.

[GAD]

You make all this money yet your facilities were falling apart and infested with bacteria not long ago. Where is all this money going? The taxpayers in South Carolina have had to bail out SC State TWICE now because of disappering money. Without those bailouts SC State would be closed. So goox luck to you with your delusions...
Nothing is falling apart at Southern University, less than ten years ago we built an addition on our stadium new locker rooms, weightroom, players lounge, coaches offices, meeting room, and suites. Three years ago we improved our scoreboard, before last season we added field turf at the end of this season we have another $8 million in improvements coming (out for bid now).
As far as Grambling and there issue with the mold that was fixed not long after it came to light, btw Grambling just added field turf and a new score board

[citdog]

Real football is played on GRASS. It is good to hear that y'all are investing in your programs. Somebody needs to pass good finiancial stewardship lessons on to the Bulldogs in Orangeburg.

[Professor]

Capt John Coussons, USNR Ret, would have begged to differ with your opinion. You are as entitled to it as you are your delusions.

Clearly you think the South wore itself out and thus caused them to lose the Civil War. Bwahahaha , your the delusional one

[cx500d]

Capt John Coussons, USNR Ret, would have begged to differ with your opinion. You are as entitled to it as you are your delusions.

Its CAPT John Coussons, USNR Ret. Apparently not ALL your military training stuck, like the rank structure of the various services, for instance...

[citdog]

Clearly you think the South wore itself out and thus caused them to lose the Civil War. Bwahahaha , your the delusional one

What else would you call it when an Army inflicts more casulties on the enemy than they have soldiers in their army? You should google "Grant's Overland Campaign". The Confederate Soldier was MAGNIFICENT and covered himself in GLORY.

[citdog]

Its CAPT John Coussons, USNR Ret. Apparently not ALL your military training stuck, like the rank structure of the various services, for instance...

I'm on a phone. DICK

[ASU33]

The only Americans interested in segregating yourselves from others is y'all. I must say I do appreciate the irony.

And this comes from someone who's institution didn't integrate until 1966, a whole 123 years AFTER the school was founded.xcoffeex

[cx500d]

I'm on a phone. DICK

That doesn't make that blatant disrespect and breakdown of military protocol excusable. If I were there I'd give you 100 hop-n-pops. You manage to CAPITALIZE numerous WORDS in OTHER posts...

[citdog]

And this comes from someone who's institution didn't integrate until 1966, a whole 123 years AFTER the school was founded.xcoffeex

There wasn't a single school that was integrated then. Why hold us to a different standard than all others????

[citdog]

And this comes from someone who's institution didn't integrate until 1966, a whole 123 years AFTER the school was founded.xcoffeex

Remind me again which of us has a single race of people mentioned in our designation...

What does the "B" in HBCU stand for?

[Coogkat15]

Ummm.... who's segregating? I see 2 historically eldered conferences, who share a kinship of participation various members vs each other for well over 70+ years, pitting their champions against each other in a bowl game. Does your school/conference need to setup a convo w/ espn to highlight what others are vigorously and historically participating in during the holiday season? (bowl game) Should the pac xii/b1g champions start pissing each other because you don't like their historical setup?

FTR, fall 2017, PVAMU has SHSU, IWU, and Nicholls St as its OOC foes. Where oh where is this segregation you speak of? xsmhx

Hey Panther88 to me that OOC slate sounds like a potential set up for a Conference leap! We'd love to have you guys in the Southland, although I do love the games between PV and TxSU, Grambling and Southern.


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[CHIP72]

There wasn't a single school that was integrated then. Why hold us to a different standard than all others????

I tend to think the segregation by schools like The Citadel (and many, many other schools in the South) is what CAUSED many of the HBCUs to be created in the first place.

Plessy vs Ferguson was essentially overturned a long time ago.

[Panther88]

There wasn't a single school that was integrated then. Why hold us to a different standard than all others????

lol gawd xlolx

[Panther88]

Remind me again which of us has a single race of people mentioned in our designation...

What does the "B" in HBCU stand for?

What does the "W" in HWCU/PWCU stand for? This is not a trick question.

The "P" in PWCU stands for PREDOMINANTLY-present, past, future tense. "mazza," your federal govt, is watching your response, cit. :D

[ASU33]

There wasn't a single school that was integrated then. Why hold us to a different standard than all others????

Which is false.

[Professor]

What else would you call it when an Army inflicts more casulties on the enemy than they have soldiers in their army? You should google "Grant's Overland Campaign". The Confederate Soldier was MAGNIFICENT and covered himself in GLORY.

What dream world are u in?

Grant's army set out on the Overland Campaign with the goal of drawing Lee into a defense of Richmond. Confederates lost 3 battles at Wilderness , Spotsylvania and Cold Harbor. All the while Sherman took Atlanta and marched to the sea. Came thru SC and NC and met Lee army on the other side in Richmond.

REMEMBER the SOUTH gave up lol

[Professor]

There wasn't a single school that was integrated then. Why hold us to a different standard than all others????

Such a non student of history

Integration of schools in South Carolina

U of South Carolina 1963
Furman 1965
Wofford 1964
Clemson 1963

[citdog]

Which is false.

Please name me one school in the South that was ingegrated in 1842.

[citdog]

What dream world are u in?

Grant's army set out on the Overland Campaign with the goal of drawing Lee into a defense of Richmond. Confederates lost 3 battles at Wilderness , Spotsylvania and Cold Harbor. All the while Sherman took Atlanta and marched to the sea. Came thru SC and NC and met Lee army on the other side in Richmond.

REMEMBER the SOUTH gave up lol

Three VICTORIES for the yankees you say? Do you even know what the definition of a victory is? Who possessed the field at the end of each of those battles? Who suffered the most casualties? Grant lost 10,000 men in 15mins at Cold Harbor. SOME victory. Cold Harbor is one of the worst defeats in the history of the United States Army. Up there with Camden, First and Second Manassas, Chancellorsville, and Kasserine Pass.

[cx500d]

Three VICTORIES for the yankees you say? Do you even know what the definition of a victory is? Who possessed the field at the end of each of those battles? Who suffered the most casualties? Grant lost 10,000 men in 15mins at Cold Harbor. SOME victory. Cold Harbor is one of the worst defeats in the history of the United States Army. Up there with Camden, First and Second Manassas, Chancellorsville, and Kasserine Pass.


If you believe the media, the Tet Offensive was also a US loss.

[citdog]

If you believe the media, the Tet Offensive was also a US loss.

Tet destroyed the VC.

[Professor]

Three VICTORIES for the yankees you say? Do you even know what the definition of a victory is? Who possessed the field at the end of each of those battles? Who suffered the most casualties? Grant lost 10,000 men in 15mins at Cold Harbor. SOME victory. Cold Harbor is one of the worst defeats in the history of the United States Army. Up there with Camden, First and Second Manassas, Chancellorsville, and Kasserine Pass.


Bwhahaha and with all that winning , Lee Surrendered while waiting on supplies and was cornered. Guess it was the luck of the Irish lol

[cx500d]

Bwhahaha and with all that winning , Lee Surrendered while waiting on supplies and was cornered. Guess it was the luck of the Irish lol


Cornered? As OP Smith said at the Chosin Reservoir:
“Retreat Hell! We're just attacking in another direction. (http://izquotes.com/quote/267695)”
―Oliver P. Smith (http://izquotes.com/author/oliver-p.-smith)

[citdog]

Bwhahaha and with all that winning , Lee Surrendered while waiting on supplies and was cornered. Guess it was the luck of the Irish lol

You are the one who took umbrage with General Early's quote in my signature. It happened just as he said it did. Hell some North Carolina boys captured several cannon after driving the yankees from their position the morning of Appomattox. Some Professor you are...

[citdog]

Cornered? As OP Smith said at the Chosin Reservoir:
“Retreat Hell! We're just attacking in another direction. (http://izquotes.com/quote/267695)”
―Oliver P. Smith (http://izquotes.com/author/oliver-p.-smith)



Lt. General Nathan Bedford Forrest said it first and better.

"Charge 'em BOTH ways!"

[CHIP72]

Three VICTORIES for the yankees you say? Do you even know what the definition of a victory is? Who possessed the field at the end of each of those battles? Who suffered the most casualties? Grant lost 10,000 men in 15mins at Cold Harbor. SOME victory. Cold Harbor is one of the worst defeats in the history of the United States Army. Up there with Camden, First and Second Manassas, Chancellorsville, and Kasserine Pass.

Uh, to my knowledge no part of the United States currently have legal slavery or give more power to the states than the federal government. The outcome of individual battles don't matter as much as the outcome of a war.


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[citdog]

Uh, to my knowledge no part of the United States currently have legal slavery or give more power to the states than the federal government. The outcome of individual battles don't matter as much as the outcome of a
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Uh that wasn't what was being discussed. Guess you have never heard of the 10th Amendment in Tje Bill of Rights then? Your post was a nice attempt to disguise your historical ignorance though.

[pvdogteam]

lol It's hard to maintain a semblance of civility when certain folks rear their ugly heads. A thread stating a delay in play between two intra-conference foes evokes a response regarding "playoffs." xsmhx

Panthro you made me login on this one. How did a post about football get all the way here? oh well some people smh

[pvdogteam]

Hey Panther88 to me that OOC slate sounds like a potential set up for a Conference leap! We'd love to have you guys in the Southland, although I do love the games between PV and TxSU, Grambling and Southern.


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Crazy isn't it? Prairie View not slick LOL

[pvdogteam]

cit, how is PVAMU segregating itself by playing SHSU, IUW, and Nicholls St all from the neighboring SLC conference? This math you're using doesn't add up, at all.
Panthro, I'm also trying to figure out how HBCUs are segregating themselves when a non African American can get minority scholarships at our schools? If he despise our schools so much why did he click on a thread about our 2 schools? Your friend is probably a closet season ticket holder to PV games.