Yale Complains About understaffed athletic trainers

[Go Green]

Probably a subject that doesn't get a lot of attention.

http://features.yaledailynews.com/blog/2017/02/23/up-close-understaffed-yale-sports-medicine-struggles-with-student-injuries/

(Thanks to Big Green Alert for highlighting the story in its blog this morning)

[kdinva]

Unreal and sad story about that QB......and none of the eight Ivies can claim "not enough $$$" for the reason....

[walliver]

Obviously, the article picked the "worst" cases. Several things stand out to me. One is that there seem to be an awful lot of bulging disks, not really a common problem among young men in the 18-22 age group. The second is that a number of these players seemed to have pre-existing high school injuries.

Despite the article criticizing the "athletic department", every case mentions involved the football team. Do they do a better job taking care of the basketball teams?

[Thumper 76]

Obviously, the article picked the "worst" cases. Several things stand out to me. One is that there seem to be an awful lot of bulging disks, not really a common problem among young men in the 18-22 age group. The second is that a number of these players seemed to have pre-existing high school injuries.

Despite the article criticizing the "athletic department", every case mentions involved the football team. Do they do a better job taking care of the basketball teams?

Football seems to have been the focus, but a football team is where the training staff size issue will be most evident due to the sheer number of people on the team as well as the violent nature of the game.


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[Bisonoline]

That first story really isnt about shortages. Its about a shoddy physician who didnt care enough to order the correct diagnostic exams. If you are shooting a guy up with cortizone there are issues.

[clenz]

Interesting to note that Iowa introduced a bill yesterday that has me all kinds of fired up (IBY and Thumper and attest to this). The bill would strip licensed status off of a bunch of "professional" positions and athletic trainer happens to be one of them. The impact of that would be huge at universities in Iowa.

Strange timing.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Football seems to have been the focus...

Because football is the only sport where anyone gets injured. (See: Concussion studies)

Concussion studies, injury studies, etc. are important and should be taken seriously, but the never-ending focus on injuries in football is tiresome. You wonder what might happen if the article focused on, say, hockey instead.

[bulldog10jw]

I thought this was strange:

http://sportzedge.com/2017/02/23/diagnosis-and-medical-care-of-injured-yale-football-players-such-as-rafe-chapple-and-tyler-varga-are-analyzed-and-criticized-in-the-yale-daily-news/


Notably absent from the article was any comment from or specific reference to head coach, Tony Reno.

[Bisonoline]

Interesting to note that Iowa introduced a bill yesterday that has me all kinds of fired up (IBY and Thumper and attest to this). The bill would strip licensed status off of a bunch of "professional" positions and athletic trainer happens to be one of them. The impact of that would be huge at universities in Iowa.

Strange timing.

Why would they do this?

[citdog]

I REALLY hope that the Abilene Christian Ballgirl isn't effected by this...

[Son of Eli]

I don't understand how Yale has a shortage of trainers when they're home to a world renowned medical school and hospital. Maybe Tyler Varga can be convinced to become a trainer for Yale.

[clenz]

Why would they do this?
It was part of a much larger bill that no one was sure where it came from. It was proposed by Gov Brandstead. It was aimed at killing the licencing boards, and requirments for a ton of professionals in the state of Iowa. The follow is a list of professions that would have had their boards killed off in the state of Iowa. That means these professions would have no longer been "licenced" They would be "registered". That means there is no oversight as to who is registering. That means anyone could register to do these things. Doesn't matter if they are properly trained or not

• Speech Patholigist
• Audiologist
• Orthotist
• Prosthetist
• Pedorthist
• Respitory Care Practitioner
• Barbers
• Funeral Directors/Morticians
• Marriage and Family Therapists
• Mental Health Counselors
• Polysomnography Practitioner and Technician
• Social Worker
• Massage Therapists
• Athletic Trainers
• Hearing Aid Specialists

Those that got to keep their boards and licenced status?
• Physician (Podiatric, Osteopathic Physician and surgeon)
• Surgeon
• Physician Assistant
• Psychologist
• Chiropractor
• Nurse
• Dentist
• Dental Hygienist
• Dental Assistant
• Optometrist
• Pharmacist
• Physical Therapist
• Physical Therapist Assistant
• Occu. Therapist
• Occu. Therapist Assistant
• Cosmetology Arts and Sciences
• Acupuncturist
• Nursing Home Admin
• Sign Language Interpreter

I pulled those straight from the bill.

What further impact would losing licencing mean? Insurance companies would no longer creditial these professions in Iowa. That means insurance doesn't cover any of those. As someone in grad school for mental health counseling. As someone who has a wife who has been licensed for over a half decade and owns her own practice for mental health counseling this was horrific to see pop up (same for all other professions). Within 48 hours there were more phone calls, e-mails, signatures on peitions and people at the state house demanding that bill be killed than anyone could ever remember. I'm talking rumors of over 20-30,000 plus e-mails, voice mails, signatures, etc... to representatives about this single bill.

The bill was killed within 2 days.

2 days later they tried to reword the bill and sneak it through as part of another bill. Turns out, when you piss off the lobbiest/parties for all major licencing boards in the state every single thing that is proposed is combed through with a fine tooth come. Same type of bombardment happened and that bill was killed. To add to that the state rammed a collective bargaining bill through that stripped all public employees of all negotiating rights when it comes to contract negotiations. They only thing that can now be negotiated is is base pay. Anything else can't be negotiated. 82% of professors and about 60% of teachers have said they will consider leaving the state of Iowa for positions in other states if offered.

Now, Gov Dip**** has said he isn't going to let his new target die.



http://www.radioiowa.com/2017/03/04/branstad-still-pushing-to-cut-number-of-regulated-professions-in-iowa/

Branstad’s bill that would have ended state licensing for barbershops, social workers, mental health counselors and other health care professionals was rejected by a three-member House panel. Republican Representative Bobby Kaufmann of Wilton suggested the move could “harm the public” by inviting pretenders into the state who would act as if they had legitimate training in the health care field.
Branstad says there are too many state-licensed professions in Iowa.
“These licensing boards kind of look at it as something (like), ‘We’re there to protect the profession, not the public,’ and that’s my concern,” Branstad says. “In some cases we’ve gone into places where I really don’t think we need to be licensed and it drives up the costs and it keeps out the competition.”

...

Another proposal Branstad backed tried to change state regulations to make it easier for health care clinics that are for-profit to set up shop near already existing Iowa hospitals and clinics. That bill failed to advance in the Iowa House, too, because of opposition from Republicans. Branstad says these kinds of regulatory reforms will “never be easy” to get through the legislature.
“Every one of these groups is organized. A lot of ’em have lobbyists and they spend a lot of money and they always sell it on the idea, ‘Well, we’re going to protect the health, safety and well-being of Iowans,'” Branstad says. “But we have more licensed, regulated professions than anybody else.”



He is legitimately trying to kill off any healthcare, social service, etc... that isn't a MD or RN. The lasting impact on that state of Iowa would be...insane. I've lived here all 29 years of my life. My mothers side has been in Iowa since about 1880. My wife family on both sides since about the 1880s. We've never considered leaving. I'm now putting a plan in place to get us out of the state by 2024.

[Bisonoline]

It was part of a much larger bill that no one was sure where it came from. It was proposed by Gov Brandstead. It was aimed at killing the licencing boards, and requirments for a ton of professionals in the state of Iowa. The follow is a list of professions that would have had their boards killed off in the state of Iowa. That means these professions would have no longer been "licenced" They would be "registered". That means there is no oversight as to who is registering. That means anyone could register to do these things. Doesn't matter if they are properly trained or not

• Speech Patholigist
• Audiologist
• Orthotist
• Prosthetist
• Pedorthist
• Respitory Care Practitioner
• Barbers
• Funeral Directors/Morticians
• Marriage and Family Therapists
• Mental Health Counselors
• Polysomnography Practitioner and Technician
• Social Worker
• Massage Therapists
• Athletic Trainers
• Hearing Aid Specialists

Those that got to keep their boards and licenced status?
• Physician (Podiatric, Osteopathic Physician and surgeon)
• Surgeon
• Physician Assistant
• Psychologist
• Chiropractor
• Nurse
• Dentist
• Dental Hygienist
• Dental Assistant
• Optometrist
• Pharmacist
• Physical Therapist
• Physical Therapist Assistant
• Occu. Therapist
• Occu. Therapist Assistant
• Cosmetology Arts and Sciences
• Acupuncturist
• Nursing Home Admin
• Sign Language Interpreter

I pulled those straight from the bill.

What further impact would losing licencing mean? Insurance companies would no longer creditial these professions in Iowa. That means insurance doesn't cover any of those. As someone in grad school for mental health counseling. As someone who has a wife who has been licensed for over a half decade and owns her own practice for mental health counseling this was horrific to see pop up (same for all other professions). Within 48 hours there were more phone calls, e-mails, signatures on peitions and people at the state house demanding that bill be killed than anyone could ever remember. I'm talking rumors of over 20-30,000 plus e-mails, voice mails, signatures, etc... to representatives about this single bill.

The bill was killed within 2 days.

2 days later they tried to reword the bill and sneak it through as part of another bill. Turns out, when you piss off the lobbiest/parties for all major licencing boards in the state every single thing that is proposed is combed through with a fine tooth come. Same type of bombardment happened and that bill was killed. To add to that the state rammed a collective bargaining bill through that stripped all public employees of all negotiating rights when it comes to contract negotiations. They only thing that can now be negotiated is is base pay. Anything else can't be negotiated. 82% of professors and about 60% of teachers have said they will consider leaving the state of Iowa for positions in other states if offered.

Now, Gov Dip**** has said he isn't going to let his new target die.



He is legitimately trying to kill off any healthcare, social service, etc... that isn't a MD or RN. The lasting impact on that state of Iowa would be...insane. I've lived here all 29 years of my life. My mothers side has been in Iowa since about 1880. My wife family on both sides since about the 1880s. We've never considered leaving. I'm now putting a plan in place to get us out of the state by 2024.

Another thing happens when you lose licensed professional status. You lose money. You are now a technician not a technologist. I saw the flip side when states started to require their technicians to pass a state or national exam and required continuing education. When it was all said and done it raised the prestige in the field up a notch and they had to pay us more money which was in line with other states which had already gone through that process.

[clenz]

Another thing happens when you lose licensed professional status. You lose money. You are now a technician not a technologist. I saw the flip side when states started to require their technicians to pass a state or national exam and required continuing education. When it was all said and done it raised the prestige in the field up a notch and they had to pay us more money which was in line with other states which had already gone through that process.
There's no rhyme or reason for anything he's proposed.

He seems convinced that the only reason licencing boards exist is to protect the peole that belong to it and to go out of the way to make sure the public is kept in some kind of dark about what is happening. Basically, he isn't getting money from the Iowa Board of Social and Behavioral Sciences, and other boards, so he sees no need for them and he's going to slander us at every turn. It's not going to work.

Would some amount of reform be beneficial? I suppose. Completely gutting tens of thousands of very specialized professionals, who focus entirely on improving the lives of Iowans, is a chicken **** move so that he doesn't have to find money to cut from places that have their hands up his ass controlling him.

He can't leave office in this state soon enough. The ramifications of all of us losing licencing are legitimately too numerous to start to list, and would end up crippling the state long term.

[walliver]

Iowa seems to have an incredible number of Boards. Most states would consolidate a lot of those.

When you have that many specific boards, they tend to function more as guilds, and less as licensing boards protecting the public.