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NDSUFREAK
January 20th, 2007, 03:45 PM
1 Appalachian St SOCON 14-1
2 Massachusetts A10 (N) 13-2
3 N Dakota St GWFC 10-1
4 Montana BSC 12-2
5 Youngstown St GFC 11-3
6 James Madison A10 (S) 9-3
7 New Hampshire A10 (N) 9-4
8 Illinois St GFC 9-4
9 S Illinois GFC 9-4
10 Portland St BSC 7-4

Top conference was the Great West.


Cant wait until next season!!!!:hurray:

Grizalltheway
January 20th, 2007, 04:09 PM
1 Appalachian St SOCON 14-1
2 Massachusetts A10 (N) 13-2
3 N Dakota St GWFC 10-1
4 Montana BSC 12-2
5 Youngstown St GFC 11-3
6 James Madison A10 (S) 9-3
7 New Hampshire A10 (N) 9-4
8 Illinois St GFC 9-4
9 S Illinois GFC 9-4
10 Portland St BSC 7-4

Top conference was the Great West.


Cant wait until next season!!!!:hurray:

How so? A10 has 3 teams in the top ten, bsc has two, GFC has two

MplsBison
January 20th, 2007, 04:14 PM
You take the total GPI and divide by the number of teams in the conference.

Or something like that.

TexasTerror
January 20th, 2007, 04:27 PM
How so? A10 has 3 teams in the top ten, bsc has two, GFC has two

Conference Ranks from the GPI...

Rank, Conference (Average Rating)
1. Great West Football Conference (21.64)
2. Atlantic 10 Conference (25.62)
3. Gateway Football Conference (29.64)
4. Big Sky Conference (33.90)
5. Southern Conference (35.24)
6. Ivy League (42.19)
7. Big South Conference (46.87)
8. Southland Conference (50.25)
9. Ohio Valley Conference (50.98)
10. Patriot League (57.52)
11. Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference (58.16)
12. Southwestern Athletic Conference (64.12)
13. Northeast Conference (65.49)
14. Independents (66.75)
15. Pioneer Football League (69.46)
16. Metro-Atlantic Athletic Conference (83.84)

Hansel
January 20th, 2007, 05:49 PM
How so? A10 has 3 teams in the top ten, bsc has two, GFC has two
2/5 > 3/12

89Hen
January 20th, 2007, 07:47 PM
Ugh. Do we have to go through this again? You cannot simply divide the rank by numbers of teams in the conference. The math doesn't work when you have different sized conferences. Rank a conference of 5 teams 1-5 and divide by 5. Rank a conference of 12 teams 1-12 and divide by 12. The numbers don't work.

Appstate29
January 20th, 2007, 10:06 PM
Ugh. Do we have to go through this again? You cannot simply divide the rank by numbers of teams in the conference. The math doesn't work when you have different sized conferences. Rank a conference of 5 teams 1-5 and divide by 5. Rank a conference of 12 teams 1-12 and divide by 12. The numbers don't work.


who cares the SoCon was the best conference...:p :p

GoGuins
January 21st, 2007, 08:28 AM
How so? A10 has 3 teams in the top ten, bsc has two, GFC has two

Correction, GFC has 3 in the top 10. YSU, ISU, & SIU

ButlerGSU
January 21st, 2007, 08:48 AM
who cares the SoCon was the best conference...:p :p

No doubt about that.

Hansel
January 21st, 2007, 09:15 AM
Ugh. Do we have to go through this again? You cannot simply divide the rank by numbers of teams in the conference. The math doesn't work when you have different sized conferences. Rank a conference of 5 teams 1-5 and divide by 5. Rank a conference of 12 teams 1-12 and divide by 12. The numbers don't work.
It works both ways, if the GWFC had the 5 lowest ranked teams, while the A-12/CAA had the 12 lowest ranked teams the GWFC would be ranked lower

AggiePride
January 21st, 2007, 09:37 AM
It works both ways, if the GWFC had the 5 lowest ranked teams, while the A-12/CAA had the 12 lowest ranked teams the GWFC would be ranked lower

Not to mention the events in both cases are mutually exclusive.

phillyAPP
January 21st, 2007, 10:17 AM
I just can't wait for NDSU becomes legitimate so their wins count.
Its a stupid NCAA rule.

I hope APP is talking with their AD. We have been screwed by ESPN twice,LSU this year and GA next year.

WELCOME to "THE ROCK"

GO APPS, FIGHT APPS, KICK A** !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

89Hen
January 21st, 2007, 05:01 PM
It works both ways, if the GWFC had the 5 lowest ranked teams, while the A-12/CAA had the 12 lowest ranked teams the GWFC would be ranked lower
When we need to argue who is last and who is next to last you can bring that up, but you miss the point that more A10 teams keeps more A10 teams ranked lower than GW keeps GW...

MplsBison
January 21st, 2007, 05:05 PM
OTOH, one loss in the GW plunges your ranking. 1 loss in the A10 doesn't as much.

Hansel
January 21st, 2007, 06:58 PM
When we need to argue who is last and who is next to last you can bring that up, but you miss the point that more A10 teams keeps more A10 teams ranked lower than GW keeps GW...

Median A-10 = 28.3
Median GWFC = 13

4/5 GWFC teams are in the top 16

that is tough to argue with

kardplayer
January 22nd, 2007, 07:22 AM
When we need to argue who is last and who is next to last you can bring that up, but you miss the point that more A10 teams keeps more A10 teams ranked lower than GW keeps GW...

Rankings based on the top 4 from each conference:
2. Atlantic 10 Conference 8.775
3. Gateway Football Conference 10.03
1. Great West Football Conference 13.1375
4. Big Sky Conference 13.915
5. Southern Conference 18
6. Ivy League 26.165
9. Ohio Valley Conference 31.5275
7. Big South Conference 39.0275
11. Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference 39.945
8. Southland Conference 41
10. Patriot League 46.4725
13. Northeast Conference 51.945
15. Pioneer Football League 53.61
12. Southwestern Athletic Conference 58.1925
14. Independents 66.75
16. Metro-Atlantic Athletic Conference 82.555

lucchesicourt
January 22nd, 2007, 07:47 AM
Aren't they still member so fthe conference and not to be ignored? If the GWFC did not have 4 highly ranked teams, wouldn't the strength (or weakness) of the number 4 team effect their number too? It is conference that is being talked about, not the top 4. If that was the case, you would be right, wouldn't you?

lucchesicourt
January 22nd, 2007, 07:49 AM
It should read "they are still members of the conference and not to be ignored"

bluehenbillk
January 22nd, 2007, 09:06 AM
Did anyone else chuckle that the NC game was played on December 15th & then, if you could hold your breath that long, the Final GPI comes out on January 20th?

And the GPI isn't tied to it's big brother the BCS??? Please.

Also, this just in officially: The Phillies have won the 1980 World Series!!!

ChickenMan
January 22nd, 2007, 09:10 AM
Median A-10 = 28.3
Median GWFC = 13

4/5 GWFC teams are in the top 16

that is tough to argue with


I agree...

89Hen
January 22nd, 2007, 10:39 AM
Median A-10 = 28.3
Median GWFC = 13

4/5 GWFC teams are in the top 16

that is tough to argue with
That's actually the entire arguement. If the GWFC had more teams, they'd have more teams with LOSSES that would drag down their rating. If the A10 could jetison their worst teams (ie. UNC), the overall rating would go up.

AggiePride
January 22nd, 2007, 12:07 PM
That's actually the entire arguement. If the GWFC had more teams, they'd have more teams with LOSSES that would drag down their rating. If the A10 could jetison their worst teams (ie. UNC), the overall rating would go up.

Yeh, but we don't. Lets deal with reality and not hypotheticals.

89Hen
January 22nd, 2007, 12:49 PM
Yeh, but we don't. Lets deal with reality and not hypotheticals.
:rolleyes: The reality is you cannot strictly use numbers to compare conferences with such a disparity in number of members. The GWFC is hypothetically the strongest conference.

I had NDSU ranked in the top 5, but they beat a 4-2 Southland team (really 4-3 if you count a loss to UCA), a 4-4 A10 team, and a 2-5 SoCon team.

Cal Poly beat 3-5 and 4-4 Big Sky teams and lost to Montana.

Comma Davis beat Montana State, move-up UCA, non-schollie USD, 1-10 UNC and lost to YSU.

SDSU went 3-0 vs. the Southland (the worst Southland I can remember, even UNC beat a SLC team) and lost to Montana and UNI.

What does this tell us in reality? Not a whole heck of a lot. It tells me that these four teams were certainly at worst average and I'd even give them above average. For reference, the NEC beat a 2-5 SoCon team and a 4-5 A10 team.

JALMOND
January 22nd, 2007, 02:18 PM
No one's touching this so I will. Portland State #10. Hmmm.

lizrdgizrd
January 22nd, 2007, 02:25 PM
No one's touching this so I will. Portland State #10. Hmmm.
Well, they didn't loose any playoff games! :smiley_wi

JALMOND
January 22nd, 2007, 02:30 PM
Well, they didn't loose any playoff games! :smiley_wi

Actually, we've only lost once since early October, and that was to Oregon. :D

89Hen
January 22nd, 2007, 02:31 PM
No one's touching this so I will. Portland State #10. Hmmm.
That's for another thread.

lizrdgizrd
January 22nd, 2007, 02:32 PM
Actually, we've only lost once since early October, and that was to Oregon. :D
Yeah, we haven't lost one since Sept. 2. :smiley_wi

NE MT GRIZZ
January 22nd, 2007, 03:02 PM
Yeah, we haven't lost one since Sept. 2. :smiley_wi

If you play Cal or Oregon that will change very fast

lizrdgizrd
January 22nd, 2007, 03:03 PM
If you play Cal or Oregon that will change very fast
Who knows, maybe we will! We were going to play LSU, but they got scared and called it off. xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

gvilleapp
January 22nd, 2007, 09:53 PM
No doubt about that.
AP is cut!! He had a great game yesterday. I was never so happy to see a player on another team graduate.