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Uncle Rico's Clan
December 6th, 2016, 09:51 AM
I saw this on ESPN, and thought it was pretty cool. It's an ESPN 30 for 30 Short about Gordie Lockbaum who played both ways at Holy Cross, and was twice a Heisman Trophy finalist. The film is about 11 minutes long.


http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=18189648

bonarae
December 6th, 2016, 06:08 PM
Written article:

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18217812/in-history-holy-cross-football-there-tragic-story-often-told

Bison Fan in NW MN
December 6th, 2016, 07:15 PM
My senior year in HS, Gordie was big news on ESPN. He was a great player.

Go Lehigh TU owl
December 6th, 2016, 07:48 PM
Saw him once at Lehigh's old Taylor Stadium in 1987. I was young but do remember bits and pieces of the game. The Crusaders crushed Lehigh that day...

Sader87
December 6th, 2016, 08:17 PM
Great player and an even greater guy....honored to call him a friend.

Go Green
September 7th, 2022, 11:22 AM
Sometime during COVID, I got in the habit of watching ESPN documentaries for my bike and treadmill workouts.

ESPN finally put the Lockbaum short on my "Recommended for You" list. Why it took them so long to do so is an interesting question.

In any event, I enjoyed it very much! A pity it wasn't longer, but it was great seeing the footage of him playing!

KPSUL
September 7th, 2022, 12:35 PM
As I recall, he was one of five players invited to the Heisman Trophy presentation his Senior year. I don't think he got it, but I don't know of any other 1AA player being a finalist. That's probably covered in the video, but I couldn't see it, when I clicked on the link I got a "Video not available" message.

Found it by searching his name on ESPN+. The video is called "The Throwback". Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

Franks Tanks
September 7th, 2022, 01:12 PM
As I recall, he was one of five players invited to the Heisman Trophy presentation his Senior year. I don't think he got it, but I don't know of any other 1AA player being a finalist. That's probably covered in the video, but I couldn't see it, when I clicked on the link I got a "Video not available" message.

Found it by searching his name on ESPN+. The video is called "The Throwback". Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

Steve McNair was a finalist and think he’s the only other. Randy Moss probably would’ve done it, but Marshall was back in FBS in 97.

MR. CHICKEN
September 7th, 2022, 01:15 PM
Steve McNair was a finalist and think he’s the only other.xnonono2xxsmhxxnonono2x Randy Moss probably would’ve done it, but Marshall was back in FBS in 97.


32532

WHAT 'BOUT DUH IVY LEAGUE GUY....... CORNELL MAYBE......ED MARINARO.......MINNESOTA VIKINGS/BECAME AN ACTOR...........????????????

JES' WIKI'ED IT.....1971 RUNNER-UP........TA AUBURN QB...PAT SULLIVAN.......FO' HEISMANN......FIRST RB TA 4,000 YDS...CAREER....AWK!

CHICKEN STILL HAS IT LADS....xrotatehx....AWK!

crusader11
September 7th, 2022, 01:40 PM
Steve McNair was a finalist and think he’s the only other. Randy Moss probably would’ve done it, but Marshall was back in FBS in 97.

Good call. 3rd in the 1994 Heisman voting: https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/awards/heisman-1994.html

Franks Tanks
September 7th, 2022, 02:13 PM
Steve McNair was a finalist and think he’s the only other.xnonono2xxsmhxxnonono2x Randy Moss probably would’ve done it, but Marshall was back in FBS in 97.


32532

WHAT 'BOUT DUH IVY LEAGUE GUY....... CORNELL MAYBE......ED MARINARO.......MINNESOTA VIKINGS/BECAME AN ACTOR...........????????????

JES' WIKI'ED IT.....1971 RUNNER-UP........TA AUBURN QB...PAT SULLIVAN.......FO' HEISMANN......FIRST RB TA 4,000 YDS...CAREER....AWK!

CHICKEN STILL HAS IT LADS....xrotatehx....AWK!

True, but was just going from the FCS era. Kazmier from Princeton was the last Ivy Heisman winner in the 50’s.

MR. CHICKEN
September 7th, 2022, 02:21 PM
True, but was just going from the FCS era. Kazmier from Princeton was the last Ivy Heisman winner in the 50’s.

OOPS!...xembarrassedx...AWK!

UAalum72
September 7th, 2022, 02:29 PM
Steve McNair was a finalist and think he’s the only other.xnonono2xxsmhxxnonono2x Randy Moss probably would’ve done it, but Marshall was back in FBS in 97.


32532

WHAT 'BOUT DUH IVY LEAGUE GUY....... CORNELL MAYBE......ED MARINARO.......MINNESOTA VIKINGS/BECAME AN ACTOR...........????????????

JES' WIKI'ED IT.....1971 RUNNER-UP........TA AUBURN QB...PAT SULLIVAN.......FO' HEISMANN......FIRST RB TA 4,000 YDS...CAREER....AWK!

CHICKEN STILL HAS IT LADS....xrotatehx....AWK!Ed Marinaro was at Cornell before the I-A/I-AA split. Otherwise you can go back to Larry Kelley Clint Frank(Yale '36 and '37) and Dick Kazmaier (Princeton '51)

NY Crusader 2010
September 7th, 2022, 02:32 PM
Since the late Steve McNair, the only FCS players who I think would've sniffed even an outside chance of being invited to the Heisman ceremony would have been Adrian Peterson (Georgia Southern) and Armanti Edwards (App State). And I don't recall either even for sure getting votes at all.

While not FCS but still non-P5 relevant, I thought the Heisman committee ruined a chance for a cool story a few years back when Keenan Reynolds (Navy QB) broke the NCAA career record for TDs and finished 5th in the voting but didn't get invited to NY. They should have at least invited the top 5 guys to the ceremony that year, as Reynolds hopping in a naval helicopter after the Army-Navy game would have been epically cool. But didn't happen of course.

Go...gate
September 8th, 2022, 07:00 PM
True, but was just going from the FCS era. Kazmier from Princeton was the last Ivy Heisman winner in the 50’s.

Marinaro was truly robbed in 1971.

FUBeAR
September 10th, 2022, 06:48 AM
Marinaro was truly robbed in 1971.
Was he though?

1971 Heisman Voting & Statistics


Rk
Player
School
Class
Pos
1st
Tot
StatisticSummary


1
Pat Sullivan (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/pat-sullivan-1.html)
Auburn (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/auburn/1971.html) (9-2)
SR
QB
355
1597
Passing - 182 Cmp, 325 Att, 2262 Yds, 21 TD, 13 Int / Rushing - 50 Att, 66 Yds, 1.32 Avg, 2 TD


2
Ed Marinaro (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/ed-marinaro-1.html)
Cornell (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/cornell/1971.html) (8-1)
SR
RB
295
1445
356 Att, 1881 Yds, 5.3 Avg, 24 TD


3
Greg Pruitt (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/greg-pruitt-1.html)
Oklahoma (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/oklahoma/1971.html) (11-1)
JR
RB
64
586
196 Att, 1760 Yds, 9.0 Avg, 18 TD


4
Johnny Musso (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/johnny-musso-1.html)
Alabama (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/alabama/1971.html) (11-1)
SR
RB
23
365
191 Att, 1088 Yds, 5.7 Avg, 16 TD


5
Lydell Mitchell (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/lydell-mitchell-1.html)
Penn State (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/penn-state/1971.html) (11-1)
SR
RB
29
251
254 Att, 1567 Yds, 6.2 Avg, 26 TD


6
Jack Mildren (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jack-mildren-1.html)
Oklahoma (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/oklahoma/1971.html) (11-1)
SR
QB
35
208
Passing - 32 Cmp, 68 Att, 889 Yds, 10 TD, 2 Int / Rushing - 223 Att, 1289 Yds, 5.8 Avg, 20 TD


7
Jerry Tagge (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jerry-tagge-1.html)
Nebraska (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/nebraska/1971.html) (13-0)
SR
QB
23
168
Passing - 154 Cmp, 258 Att, 2178 Yds, 17 TD, 4 Int / Rushing 112 Att, 330 Yds, 2.9 Avg, 9 TD


8
Chuck Ealey (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/chuck-ealey-1.html)
Toledo (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/toledo/1971.html) (12-0)
SR
QB
31
137
126 Cmp, 237 Att, 1821 Yds, 15 TD, 13 Int


9
Walt Patulski (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/walt-patulski-1.html)
Notre Dame (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/notre-dame/1971.html) (8-2)
SR
DL
8
121



10
Eric Allen (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/eric-allen-1.html)
Michigan State (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/michigan-state/1971.html) (6-5)
SR
RB
15
109
259 Att, 1494 Yds, 5.8 Avg, 18 TD



Maybe Greg Pruitt (who also returned Punts & Kickoffs - can’t find those stats for ‘71) or Jack Mildren were robbed or maybe Jack Mildren robbed Greg Pruitt, TBH.

Marinaro’s YPA (vs. Ivy League competition as opposed to SEC & Big 8) was the lowest among any of the contending RB’s, and even lower than 1 of the contending QB’s (Mildren). Think that’s what hurt his voting results in the SE & SW regions.

KPSUL
September 10th, 2022, 07:21 AM
Are we really arguing about who shoulda, coulda, woulda won the Heisman trophy 51 years ago?

FUBeAR
September 10th, 2022, 07:24 AM
Are we really arguing about who shoulda, coulda, woulda won the Heisman trophy 51 years ago?
Are you?

FUBeAR is discussing a golden era of college football. These names/Teams were roles models and heroes for pre-teen Rec League FUBeAR.