AGS Poll Results - WEEK 12 - 11/20/2016 - SELECTION SUNDAY

[AGSPoll]

WEEK 12 - 11/20/2016 - SELECTION SUNDAY

Just the quick down & dirty this week:



Rank
Team:
Total Points
First Place Votes


1
North Dakota State Bison
1636
32


2
Eastern Washington Eagles
1631
24


3T
Jacksonville State Gamecocks
1509
4


3T
James Madison Dukes
1509
4


5
Sam Houston State Bearkats
1505
4


6
The Citadel Bulldogs
1364



7
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
1284



8
North Dakota Fighting Hawks
1208



9
Youngstown State Penguins
1019



10
Villanova Wildcats
1004



11
Chattanooga Mocs
966



12T
Richmond Spiders
917



12T
Central Arkansas Bears
917



14
Charleston Southern Buccaneers
814



15
Lehigh Mountain Hawks
788



16
Wofford Terriers
755



17
Cal Poly Mustangs
585



18
New Hampshire Wildcats
393



19
Grambling State Tigers
357



20
Samford Bulldogs
334



21
Weber State Wildcats
277



22
North Carolina Central Eagles
270



23
Illinois State Redbirds
267



24
North Carolina A&T Aggies
216



25
Albany Great Danes
214
















ORV:




26
Fordham Rams
89



27
San Diego Toreros
56



28
Princeton Tigers
51



29
Southeastern Louisiana Lions
36



30
Saint Francis Red Flash
27



31
Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
25



32
Maine Black Bears
24



33
Pennsylvania Quakers
17



34
Western Illinois Leathernecks
12



35
Montana Grizzlies
11



36
Southern Utah Thunderbirds
6



37
Northern Iowa Panthers
4



38t
Duquesne Dukes
1



38t
Northern Colorado Bears
1



38t
Southern Jaguars
1

[BisonFan02]

The order might not be quite the same at 3-5, but those top 8 should be the seeds. Some strange ORV, but good job overall.

[paward]

68 good going guys

[Big Duke]

Wouldn't Jack st and JMU be tied at 3? Both with 1509

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Looks good!

Nice work fellas.

[FargoBison]

Wow 3-5 are very close.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Wouldn't Jack st and JMU be tied at 3? Both with 1509

Yes they would. I will fix that. My apologies.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Wow 3-5 are very close.

As were 1 & 2.

[POD Knows]

Here is mine, these top 5 are razor close

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Eastern Washington Eagles
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: James Madison Dukes
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: The Citadel Bulldogs
7: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
8: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
9: Chattanooga Mocs
10: Youngstown State Penguins
11: Central Arkansas Bears
12: Richmond Spiders
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
15: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
16: Wofford Terriers
17: Cal Poly Mustangs
18: Samford Bulldogs
19: Grambling State Tigers
20: New Hampshire Wildcats
21: Illinois State Redbirds
22: Weber State Wildcats
23: North Carolina Central Eagles
24: North Carolina A&T Aggies
25: Albany Great Danes

POD Knows

[wmmii]

Richmond and Central Arkansas tied at 12

[Cocky]

Does YSU have a good win?

[Professor Chaos]

The projected field according to the AGS poll:

Autos
2. Eastern Washington
3. Jacksonville St
3. James Madison
5. Sam Houston St
6. The Citadel
7. South Dakota State
14. Charleston Southern
15. Lehigh
27. San Diego
30. St Francis

At large
1. North Dakota St (1)
2. North Dakota (8)
3. Youngstown St (9)
4. Villanova (10)
5. Chattanooga (11)
6. Richmond (12)
7. Central Arkansas (12)
8. Wofford (16)
9. Cal Poly (17)
10. New Hampshire (18)
11. Samford (20)
12. Weber St (21)
13. Illinois St (23)
14. North Carolina A&T (24)

First 4 out
Albany (25)
Fordham (26)
Southeastern Louisiana (29)
Tennessee-Martin (31)

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Richmond and Central Arkansas tied at 12

Damnit! I looked at the numbers quickly and missed that too! I'm tired.

[BigSouthFan]

Does YSU have a good win?
No! They're just in the Valley.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

The projected field according to the AGS poll:

Autos
2. Eastern Washington
3. Jacksonville St
3. James Madison
5. Sam Houston St
6. The Citadel
7. South Dakota State
14. Charleston Southern
15. Lehigh
27. San Diego
30. St Francis

At large
1. North Dakota St (1)
2. North Dakota (8)
3. Youngstown St (9)
4. Villanova (10)
5. Chattanooga (11)
6. Richmond (12)
7. Central Arkansas (12)
8. Wofford (16)
9. Cal Poly (17)
10. New Hampshire (18)
11. Samford (20)
12. Weber St (21)
13. Illinois St (23)
14. North Carolina A&T (24)

First 4 out
Albany (25)
Fordham (26)
Southeastern Louisiana (29)
Tennessee-Martin (31)

I wonder if the selection committee will miss any this year? xlolx

[BisonFan02]

I wonder if the selection committee will miss any this year? xlolx

I wouldn't include Samford personally.

[Professor Chaos]

I wonder if the selection committee will miss any this year? xlolx
Seems the prevailing opinion is Samford is the most precarious. I think the AGS poll has them in as they should be. It'll be interesting to see the dynamic that NC A&T presents. AGS says they should be the last team in but with no representation on the committee does a MEAC team get the benefit of the doubt over a 7 win CAA team like Albany? We shall see.

[Gangtackle11]

Interesting that AGS has Albany out, but UNH in. Albany beat UNH h2h and have same 7-4 record.

Going to be some upset Danes if this played out.

[wmmii]

send results to Massey Composite

[ursus arctos horribilis]

send results to Massey Composite

After the Selection show I will open the poll back up for the 20 or so voters that did not make this deadline and then will send it to Massey on Monday as per usual. Thanks for the reminder.

[POD Knows]

I wouldn't include Samford personally.

I got Samford to high in my poll but who would you put in ahead of them? I guess I based my positioning of them on their SOS.

[Terry2889]

Interesting that AGS has Albany out, but UNH in. Albany beat UNH h2h and have same 7-4 record.

Going to be some upset Danes if this played out.

Yeah that's a tough one. Albany was only 4-4 in the CAA. Hard to rationalize a 6th place in conference team making the playoffs.... Unless of course you play in the MVFC hahaha! ; ) Looks like we might finally play each other! I know it sucks but it would be cool to have you guys up here in the new stadium.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Pretty rare to have close to 1500 users online at one but this early shows the interest in the selections this morning.

[Professor Chaos]

Well, AGS nailed the top 4 teams. Not sure on the placement yet but NDSU, EWU, JMU, and JSU were just announced as the top 4 on the Tweeter.

[POD Knows]

Interesting that AGS has Albany out, but UNH in. Albany beat UNH h2h and have same 7-4 record.

Going to be some upset Danes if this played out.

Check their respective records vs. the top 25 AGS. I have NH ahead of Albany but it is a close one. H to H should tip it to Albany but who knows. Conference records is important too.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Check their respective records vs. the top 25 AGS. I have NH ahead of Albany but it is a close one. H to H should tip it to Albany but who knows. Conference records is important too.

H2H means the least it possibly ever will at the end of every season because as you said, there are a lot of other factors at that point.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Well, AGS nailed the top 4 teams. Not sure on the placement yet but NDSU, EWU, JMU, and JSU were just announced as the top 4 on the Tweeter.

BOOM!

[Professor Chaos]

Top 4 in this morning's STATS Poll (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/polls.asp?div=fcs):

1. SHSU
2. JSU
3. EWU
4. NDSU

Round 1 to the AGS poll!

[TheKingpin28]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Eastern Washington Eagles
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: James Madison Dukes
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: The Citadel Bulldogs
7: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
8: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
9: Youngstown State Penguins
10: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
11: Villanova Wildcats
12: Chattanooga Mocs
13: Central Arkansas Bears
14: Wofford Terriers
15: Richmond Spiders
16: Cal Poly Mustangs
17: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
18: North Carolina Central Eagles
19: Grambling State Tigers
20: New Hampshire Wildcats
21: Samford Bulldogs
22: North Carolina A&T Aggies
23: Weber State Wildcats
24: Illinois State Redbirds
25: Albany Great Danes

TheKingpin28

The Most Significant Win: Sam Houston State Bearkats
The Most Significant Loss: Samford Bulldogs
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

[Professor Chaos]

Almost nailed the top 8 in order. Just had SDSU and UND switched up.

[Mocs123]

Surprised The Citadel didn't get a single first place vote

[JSUSoutherner]

We got UND sand SDSU backwards. Oh well. Close enough. :D

[Professor Chaos]

We got UND sand SDSU backwards. Oh well. Close enough. :D
Or maybe the selection committee got them backwards xlolx

[Professor Chaos]

The projected field according to the AGS poll:

Autos
2. Eastern Washington
3. Jacksonville St
3. James Madison
5. Sam Houston St
6. The Citadel
7. South Dakota State
14. Charleston Southern
15. Lehigh
27. San Diego
30. St Francis

At large
1. North Dakota St (1)
2. North Dakota (8)
3. Youngstown St (9)
4. Villanova (10)
5. Chattanooga (11)
6. Richmond (12)
7. Central Arkansas (12)
8. Wofford (16)
9. Cal Poly (17)
10. New Hampshire (18)
11. Samford (20)
12. Weber St (21)
13. Illinois St (23)
14. North Carolina A&T (24)

First 4 out
Albany (25)
Fordham (26)
Southeastern Louisiana (29)
Tennessee-Martin (31)
BOOM! 24 for 24!

[BisonTru]

BOOM! 24 for 24!

Yep. Nice job guys!

[ursus arctos horribilis]

BOOM! 24 for 24!

Hmm, guess ya can't do much better than that. If the committee had gotten that 7/8 thing right it would be dead on balls accurate but hey, this wasn't too bad.:D

[Professor Chaos]

So when do they announce that the selection committee will only just let AGS set the playoff field going forward?

[TheKingpin28]

Excellent work ladies and gentlemen. This was a solid season and I am proud to be a part of it.

[Southern Bison]

Hmm, guess ya can't do much better than that. If the committee had gotten that 7/8 thing right it would be dead on balls accurate but hey, this wasn't too bad.:D
Time to push for the AGS poll to be posted weekly on ESPN & toss out the coaches' poll.

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[dudeitsaid]

Top 4 in this morning's STATS Poll (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/polls.asp?div=fcs):

1. SHSU
2. JSU
3. EWU
4. NDSU

Round 1 to the AGS poll!

STATS and the Committee = Not on the same page
AGS and the Committee = Very close

Once again, what poll is the best in the FCS out there?

[dudeitsaid]

BOOM! 24 for 24!

Do you have a friend on the committee? Or just some bribery involved for a sneak peak?

That's some good stuff there! Well Done!

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Do you have a friend on the committee? Or just some bribery involved for a sneak peak?

That's some good stuff there! Well Done!

I know a guy that used to head the committee if that counts?

[CappinHard]

Wow... Well done guys.

[TheKingpin28]

Time to bribe Anish at the bars and slip him our polls with no cameras around and slowly feed the beast (ESPN) the truth.

[dewey]

Here is my poll.

Hello dewey,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/19/2016 22:41:37

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Eastern Washington Eagles
3: James Madison Dukes
4: The Citadel Bulldogs
5: Sam Houston State Bearkats
6: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
7: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
8: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
9: Chattanooga Mocs
10: Youngstown State Penguins
11: Villanova Wildcats
12: Richmond Spiders
13: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
14: Central Arkansas Bears
15: Wofford Terriers
16: Samford Bulldogs
17: Albany Great Danes
18: Cal Poly Mustangs
19: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
20: New Hampshire Wildcats
21: Illinois State Redbirds
22: Weber State Wildcats
23: North Carolina Central Eagles
24: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
25: Fordham Rams

dewey

The Most Significant Win: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
The Most Significant Loss: Montana Grizzlies
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

Great job to my fellow voters on another great year.

Dewey

[ursus arctos horribilis]

For all voters that missed the Sunday morning deadline. The poll is now reopened for the supplemental vote which will help keep your perfection streak rolling if you wish to cast the ballot now.

[centennial]

I voted at 3am mountain time. Fun times.

[bjtheflamesfan]

Dangit! Missed selection sunday poll...there goes perfection...xbawlingx

[Nickels]

Dangit! Missed selection sunday poll...there goes perfection...xbawlingx
Read 2 posts up...

[bobcathpdevil56]

I am just lucky my 3 month old daughter was having one of those sleep for 1/2 hour nights and I was up at 4:30 in the morning. That's the only reason my poll got turned in, because I was quite sleepy from imbibing.

Well done fellow voters!!!

[kdinva]

1: Eastern Washington Eagles
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: James Madison Dukes
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: The Citadel Bulldogs
7: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
8: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
9: Villanova Wildcats
10: Chattanooga Mocs
11: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
12: Richmond Spiders
13: Youngstown State Penguins
14: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
15: Wofford Terriers
16: Central Arkansas Bears
17: Grambling State Tigers
18: New Hampshire Wildcats
19: Cal Poly Mustangs
20: Fordham Rams
21: Samford Bulldogs
22: North Carolina Central Eagles
23: North Carolina A&T Aggies
24: Albany Great Danes
25: Weber State Wildcats



The Most Significant Win: New Hampshire Wildcats
The Most Significant Loss: Samford Bulldogs

[BisonFan02]

AGS matches the selection committee...
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AGS continues to **** on the selection committee. xlolx

[grizband]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Eastern Washington Eagles
3: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
4: James Madison Dukes
5: Sam Houston State Bearkats
6: The Citadel Bulldogs
7: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
8: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
9: Chattanooga Mocs
10: Youngstown State Penguins
11: Villanova Wildcats
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
14: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
15: Richmond Spiders
16: Wofford Terriers
17: Cal Poly Mustangs
18: Samford Bulldogs
19: New Hampshire Wildcats
20: Weber State Wildcats
21: Grambling State Tigers
22: Illinois State Redbirds
23: North Carolina A&T Aggies
24: Albany Great Danes
25: San Diego Toreros

The Most Significant Win: Sam Houston State Bearkats
The Most Significant Loss: Montana Grizzlies

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Read 2 posts up...

Thanks Nickels. xlolx

You affirm that I am global ignore because I can't tell you how many times I say something...then one or two posts later it as if it wasn't even said. I am constantly scrolling up to see if I forgot to submit stuff.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

AGS matches the selection committee...
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AGS continues to **** on the selection committee. xlolx

Well, I guess if you consider it a monolith. Look at how many members have **** on our poll over the last month because it didn't fit their truth.

:Dxcoolx

[mvemjsunpx]

(previous week in parentheses)


1. James Madison (1)
2. Jacksonville St. (2)
3. Sam Houston St. (5)
4. North Dakota St. (3)
5. Eastern Washington (4)
6. The Citadel (6)
7. South Dakota St. (10)
8. North Dakota (8)
9. Central Arkansas (7)
10. Charleston Southern (13)
11. Richmond (9)
12. Villanova (18)
13. Wofford (15)
14. Tennessee-Chattanooga (16)
15. Youngstown St. (17)
16. Grambling (14)
17. North Carolina A&T (12)
18. Samford (11)
19. Lehigh (NR*)
20. NC Central (NR)
21. Weber St. (20)
22. Albany (21)
23. New Hampshire (NR)
24. Cal Poly (23)
25. Illinois St. (NR)

W - Sam Houston St.
L - Samford


Dropped - Maine (19), Northern Colorado (22), Montana (24), Northern Iowa (25)

* - I accidentally forgot to rank Lehigh last week.

[RabidRabbit]

Time to bribe Anish at the bars and slip him our polls with no cameras around and slowly feed the beast (ESPN) the truth.
Flying to Baton Rouge sitting next to an ESPN camera man this morning 9-10:30. He spotted my SDSU Jacks shirt and we end up discussing the playoff selection show. I pegged the 8 seeds, and all the other 16 teams. We may have another AGS follower.

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[grizband]

Well, I guess if you consider it a monolith. Look at how many members have **** on our poll over the last month because it didn't fit their truth.

:Dxcoolx
This right here

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[TheKingpin28]

Flying to Baton Rouge sitting next to an ESPN camera man this morning 9-10:30. He spotted my SDSU Jacks shirt and we end up discussing the playoff selection show. I pegged the 8 seeds, and all the other 16 teams. We may have another AGS follower.

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Got to start somewhere. I hope that one day, the FCS will use the AGS poll as the gold standard for rankings.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Got to start somewhere. I hope that one day, the FCS will use the AGS poll as the gold standard for rankings.

I honestly don't mind it as it is. It's a niche thing for people that care and you should have to work to find it just as we all did. My basic thought is if the unwashed masses want to be spoon fed something that doesn't perform as well then so be it. I don't give a rat's ass.

But, I ain't turning anybody down that wants to use the best implement out there for judging a teams strength among it's peers either. Just saying, it's here, it's fee, we do all the work for you. If you want it, come get it. I ain't into having to work harder to promote for them to notice as well really.

IOW, I don't mind the Punk Rock, do it yourself thing as far as production but when it comes to promotion....screw it. xlolx

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Flying to Baton Rouge sitting next to an ESPN camera man this morning 9-10:30. He spotted my SDSU Jacks shirt and we end up discussing the playoff selection show. I pegged the 8 seeds, and all the other 16 teams. We may have another AGS follower.

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That's good man. Did he kinda go "How the hell did you know this?"

[RabidRabbit]

That's good man. Did he kinda go "How the hell did you know this?"
Yep. I explained AGS, and accuracy on the poll. It was a delight to talk to some one that knew about the FCS playoffs. He will probably be working the games. He was flying to BR to cover the UConn wbb @LSU.

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[mvemjsunpx]

Got to start somewhere. I hope that one day, the FCS will use the AGS poll as the gold standard for rankings.
That isn't likely. I think it's the best poll, too (largely because I vote in it xsmiley_wix), but it's still a bunch of (mostly) anonymous message-board users. People would have to put their real names on the thing to be taken seriously by major outlets, I figure, and even then it's mostly fans with no official "credentials."

[grizband]

I honestly don't mind it as it is. It's a niche thing for people that care and you should have to work to find it just as we all did. My basic thought is if the unwashed masses want to be spoon fed something that doesn't perform as well then so be it. I don't give a rat's ass.

But, I ain't turning anybody down that wants to use the best implement out there for judging a teams strength among it's peers either. Just saying, it's here, it's fee, we do all the work for you. If you want it, come get it. I ain't into having to work harder to promote for them to notice as well really.

IOW, I don't mind the Punk Rock, do it yourself thing as far as production but when it comes to promotion....screw it. xlolx
How do we get it to the next level? Convince Stats to use our poll?

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[Professor Chaos]

FWIW, the STATS poll did nail all 14 at large teams as well and also had the right group in the top 8 but there rankings amongst the top 8 were way off from what the committee had. Only The Citadel was placed correctly at #6 in their rankings.

[stevdock]

AGS matches the selection committee...
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AGS continues to **** on the selection committee. xlolx

You know if you guys could get this done late Saturday night, you'd make the selection committees job much easier ;)

[ElCid]

FWIW, the STATS poll did nail all 14 at large teams as well and also had the right group in the top 8 but there rankings amongst the top 8 were way off from what the committee had. Only The Citadel was placed correctly at #6 in their rankings.

Maybe we could say The Citadel was placed in the same spot and not use the word "correctly"? Sorry couldn't resist. It really was a log jam. Eh, in two weeks we will know a little better.

[RootinFerDukes]

Do we continue to do weekly polls throughout the playoffs? I'm guessing no.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Do we continue to do weekly polls throughout the playoffs? I'm guessing no.

No, it's over until after the National Championship game. That one last poll and we're done until next year.

[Daytripper]

No, it's over until after the National Championship game. That one last poll and we're done until next year.

Do we take strength of schedule into account when determining the #1 at the end of the year? xconfusedxxconfusedx

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Do we take strength of schedule into account when determining the #1 at the end of the year? xconfusedxxconfusedx

Of course you would. What is wrong with some of you Sam guys whining about a very solid metric used to determine rankings? If you win in the playoffs you will be winning against some of the toughest competition the country has to offer. Sam Houston is or looks to be among the elite in the country but you don't look above any of the top 4 at this point. Now when you play them, you very well may be. That's a coin flip. But if you win the NC then you have bested and ran through a very strong schedule and you are the basic "National Conference" champion. There is no tougher conference out there than that.

Stop f'n whining like little girls that your schedule worked against you. It isn't your fault, but it is a factor whether you like it or not.

Jesus Christ you guys are worse than borderline MVFC teams of the past few years that have been left out. Didn't think that could be done.

BTW, if you only look at records and don't look at other factors when voting then you are hurting the product.

[Daytripper]

Of course you would. What is wrong with some of you Sam guys whining about a very solid metric used to determine rankings? If you win in the playoffs you will be winning against some of the toughest competition the country has to offer. Sam Houston is or looks to be among the elite in the country but you don't look above any of the top 4 at this point. Now when you play them, you very well may be. That's a coin flip. But if you win the NC then you have bested the and ran througha a very strong schedule and you are the basic "National Conference" champion. There is no tougher conference out there than that.

Stop f'n whining like little girls that your schedule worked against you. It isn't your fault, but it is a factor whether you like it or not.

Jesus Christ you guys are worse than borderline MVFC teams of the past few years that have been left out. Didn't think that could be done.

BTW, if you only look at records and don't look at other factors when voting then you are hurting the product.

You missed the f'n joke, ****bag..

[ursus arctos horribilis]

You missed the f'n joke, ****bag..

Did I ****head? I've seen a **** ton of whining so it is easy to miss I guess. Was there a laughing smiley I missed in there? Nope.

God, how could I have missed that obvious joke?

[BisonFan02]

Did I ****head? I've seen a **** ton of whining so it is easy to miss I guess. Was there a laughing smiley I missed in there? Nope.

God, how could I have missed that obvious joke?

You're an obvious joke. *insert smiley face*

[UNDBIZ]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll9pon4xCG1qhnavvo1_500.gif

[ysubigred]

Do we take strength of schedule into account when determining the #1 at the end of the year? xconfusedxxconfusedx

That would suck to be a SHSU fan :D