Your Teams Most Delusional fan on AGS

[Milktruck74]

Rules are simple. You can only nominate a fan from your school. Nominate that fan on this forum that is absolutely crazy....you may secretly like him/her, but they are absolutely Bat Crap Crazy.....Lets see if you are willing to put it out there.

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And to start off, From the Mocs I nominate Chattown, what do you have?

[TheKingpin28]

^ end thread. I think he suffices for almost every team. xnodx

[Milktruck74]

^ end thread. I think he suffices for almost every team. xnodx

So you are a little scared to nominate someone from your team?
If your scared, say so!!!

[Laker]

I'm the only poster for my team on this site. That limits my nominations. xeyebrowx

[clenz]

Me.

[NY Crusader 2010]

Tie between me and Sader87 by default. Crusader 11 I would nominate as the most level-headed of the three of us on here.

[TTUEagles]

http://youtu.be/yzX_CXxijyM

[UNIFanSince1983]

Me.

Hard to argue with you on that.

[caribbeanhen]

BlueHenSinfonian, but he's gone away, maybe he came back as POD...

[TheKingpin28]

So you are a little scared to nominate someone from your team?
If your scared, say so!!!

Honestly, most fans on AGS have the ability to take off the homerism glasses, so there are very few "delusional" fans due to others checking and counter-checking which creates a more sensible poster. Now if you go to one's team board, then it can be quite interesting and things start to become more fun.

So to answer your question, I will go with Lakes.

[Thumper 76]

Prolly me. Especially the week leading up to the Marker Game.

[McNeese72]

I'm trying to think of any McNeese fans that are on here that are batsh**t crazy but I'm having a hard time. Just like we don't have any decent players, we don't have any delusional fans. ;)

Doc

[melloware13]

So you are a little scared to nominate someone from your team?
If your scared, say so!!!
NDSU's disappeared a few years ago: Lakes

[ASU33]

I'm the only poster for my team on this site. That limits my nominations. xeyebrowx

Same here!

[Grizalltheway]

Prolly me. Especially the week leading up to the Marker Game.

This, if only because I thought we had a good chance in Fargo last year.

[JSUSoutherner]

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23402&stc=1

[Houndawg]

NDSU's disappeared a few years ago: Lakes

mmmm.... a legit contender but he's no JBB disappearing in an explosion of gay porn...


Saluki fans, of course are, the very soul of objectivity.xcoffeex

[Nickels]

JBB disappearing in an explosion of gay porn...
I somewhat remember that poster. He was nuts...Dont recall the gay porn thing though xlolx

[TheRevSFA]

SFA 71

[Nickels]

As for team, I guess that would be me or daytripper (goofy liberal)...He's prolly a katfans poster that I know...

Anyone meet someone at a tailgate that you bicker with online? That's always fun xlolx

[Grizalltheway]

mmmm.... a legit contender but he's no JBB disappearing in an explosion of gay porn...


Saluki fans, of course are, the very soul of objectivity.xcoffeex

In his defense (that hurts) he did predict a long run of Bison dominance before that meltdown...

[superman7515]

As for team, I guess that would be me or daytripper (goofy liberal)...He's prolly a katfans poster that I know...

Anyone meet someone at a tailgate that you bicker with online? That's always fun xlolx

Speaking of which, whatever happened to TexasTerror? Haha

[TheRevSFA]

Speaking of which, whatever happened to TexasTerror? Haha

He lurks

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As for team, I guess that would be me or daytripper (goofy liberal)...He's prolly a katfans poster that I know...

Anyone meet someone at a tailgate that you bicker with online? That's always fun xlolx

Hi

[BisonFan02]

I nominate the POD. :D

[TheRevSFA]

I nominate the POD. :D

Second

[Southern Bison]

NDSU's disappeared a few years ago: Lakes
NoDak4Ever...bat**** stupid in the political board and head-up-his-ass homer in the discussion board.

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[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Some would argue all of us...

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1011447/lehigh2_medium.gif

[McNeese75]

NoDak4Ever...bat**** stupid in the political board and head-up-his-ass homer in the discussion board.

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oh ****, "He whose name shall not be said" is certainly a viable candidate.

[dewey]

NoDak4Ever...bat**** stupid in the political board and head-up-his-ass homer in the discussion board.

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Second. End discussion for NDSU.

Dewey

[IBleedYellow]

NoDak4Ever was more of a homer than me - that says something.

[centennial]

Second. End discussion for NDSU.

Dewey

3rd. Still doesn't compare to Chattown.

[JayJ79]

Anyone meet someone at a tailgate that you bicker with online? That's always fun xlolx
Most people that are annoying/quarrelsome online when met at a tailgate are either:
a) loads of fun
or
b) boring as hell

rarely are they quite as irksome when away from their keyboards. though there are exceptions

[POD Knows]

BlueHenSinfonian, but he's gone away, maybe he came back as POD...

You are killing me, Hen, ****. Actually, he pissed me off so bad that I had him whacked. I dumped him the Delaware River.

[POD Knows]

Prolly me. Especially the week leading up to the Marker Game.

Yea, I nominate you because SDSU sucks, always have, always will.

[JSUSoutherner]

3rd. Still doesn't compare to Chattown.
Oh no. Chattown is by far the most sane and rational poster on the board. You'll see when UTC tears a hole in time from beating teams so badly this year. xnodx

[IBleedYellow]

Oh no. Chattown is by far the most sane and rational poster on the board. You'll see when UTC tears a hole in time from beating teams so badly this year. xnodx

You...You...

Well at least you're not JSUalumnus.

[POD Knows]

Second

Ok, I am not delusional on the BISON which is the theme of the thread.

I expect us to lose every game and have often lost money hedging my support for the herd and my lust for wealth.

BTW, I have lots of delusions, but my fandom isn't one of them, or is this thread actually about delusional fans outside of fan support or is this thread specifically directed it me because I said something that upset somebody. How come the guy that started this thread hates me so much, WTF :D

[CHIP72]

I don't think any Lehigh, Lafayette, Penn, or Villanova fans on here are delusional, except for Lehigh Football Nation's infatuation with having Lehigh play Louisiana State.

[JSUSoutherner]

I don't think any Lehigh, Lafayette, Penn, or Villanova fans on here are delusional, except for Lehigh Football Nation's infatuation with having Lehigh play Louisiana State.
What? Why would he wish that bloodbath upon his team?

[IBleedYellow]

I don't think any Lehigh, Lafayette, Penn, or Villanova fans on here are delusional, except for Lehigh Football Nation's infatuation with having Lehigh play Louisiana State.


Well, and you know - almost all his rants about Lehigh. He's really the only annoying Lehigh poster.

[FargoBison]

I somewhat remember that poster. He was nuts...Dont recall the gay porn thing though xlolx

That all went down at CS.com...One of the mods gave him a UND related avatar and it sent him over the edge.

[ST_Lawson]

I've seen one other WIU person post on here, but it's pretty rare and it's been a while.
I'm pretty sure I'm the only regular WIU poster....so I guess that'd be me.

I'm a little more "homerish" over on my own board, but I like to think I can see through most of that bias around these parts.

[Thumper 76]

Yea, I nominate you because SDSU sucks, always have, always will.

I shall see you at the tailgate lots at high noon

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/1716215/doc-holliday-o.gif

[POD Knows]

I shall see you at the tailgate lots at high noon

https://elenasandidge.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/tombstone-cup-scene-o.gif

Awesome, if the spread is NDSU +15, I will take the bet and then you will be able to drink more free beer

[Thumper 76]

Awesome, if the spread is NDSU +15, I will take the bet and then you will be able to drink more free beer

Beer is always tastes better when you win it off a bison fan. But I never bet on teams I root for. I haven't won a single one of those bets.

[POD Knows]

Beer is always tastes better when you win it off a bison fan. But I never bet on teams I root for. I haven't won a single one of those bets.

Pussy

[Thumper 76]

Pussy

I'm superstitious like that. I'll bet on myself in bags, ladder golf, or beer pong against any and all, however.

[TheKingpin28]

Beer is always tastes better when you win it off a bison fan. But I never bet on teams I root for. I haven't won a single one of those bets.

I will never bet you again. It is going to be painful tomorrow.

[Thumper 76]

I will never bet you again. It is going to be painful tomorrow.

Not at all, I won't even gloat....probably. xlolx

[TheKingpin28]

Not at all, I won't even gloat....probably. xlolx

Just handing it over, I might need to go to church, which would be the 1st time in quite awhile, and ask for forgiveness and not for gambling or drinking.

[Thumper 76]

Just handing it over, I might need to go to church, which would be the 1st time in quite awhile, and ask for forgiveness and not for gambling or drinking.

It will be early symbolism for the Marker Game this year :D

[TheKingpin28]

It will be early symbolism for the Marker Game this year :D

At the end of the day, it's about that JACK ATTACK

[Twentysix]

NDSU's disappeared a few years ago: Lakes

MPLS, Lakes, and JBB are the tri-fecta for NDSU. IMO these other bison fans suggesting others are just newer to the forum. Of course they were all in their prime before the first of the DI championships.

[Twentysix]

NoDak4Ever...bat**** stupid in the political board and head-up-his-ass homer in the discussion board.

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Second. End discussion for NDSU.

Dewey


3rd. Still doesn't compare to Chattown.

Your collective join dates are showing xsmiley_wix

[Lehigh'98]

MPLS, Lakes, and JBB are the tri-fecta for NDSU. IMO these other bison fans suggesting others are just newer to the forum. Of course they were all in their prime before the first of the DI championships.

There's no way Mpls was a real NDSU fan. That dude could tell you the sky was pink and argue with you about it 20 pages.

[Houndawg]

That all went down at CS.com...One of the mods gave him a UND related avatar and it sent him over the edge.

Boy did it ever... xlolx

Thats the stuff that makes CS such a fun place.

[Catatonic]

I'm trying to think of any McNeese fans that are on here that are batsh**t crazy but I'm having a hard time. Just like we don't have any decent players, we don't have any delusional fans. ;)

Doc

Waiting patiently for the which fan from your school sandbags the most thread. McNeese will dominate.

[dewey]

MPLS, Lakes, and JBB are the tri-fecta for NDSU. IMO these other bison fans suggesting others are just newer to the forum. Of course they were all in their prime before the first of the DI championships.

I remember reading Lakes (currently El Chapo on Bisonville), I remember MLS BISON now that you mention it but I don't remember JBB as he was before my time.

Dewey

[Houndawg]

I remember reading Lakes (currently El Chapo on Bisonville), I remember MLS BISON now that you mention it but I don't remember JBB as he was before my time.

Dewey

You missed out - like I did with Joe DiMaggio being just before my time
....

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

NoDak4Ever...bat**** stupid in the political board and head-up-his-ass homer in the discussion board.

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Have you ever met NoDak? He's smarter than probably most that post on here.

His political views are totally opposite of mine but he is a good guy. He gets "piled on" here because he is a lefty. Now it was a wimpy idea of his to leave here but he was fun to argue with.

There are a lot of "big mouths" on here, me included.

[Smitty]

After years of losing I would say that the few WCU fans on this forum are only delusional when a big game is coming up (usually UTC). Otherwise we are pretty down to earth when it comes to expectations...

[IBleedYellow]

I...I forgot about MPLS.

I see his jackass post on the csnbbs boards often, stating NDSU is in a bad spot and should either go FBS or D2.

xlolx

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[POD Knows]

I'm superstitious like that. I'll bet on myself in bags, ladder golf, or beer pong against any and all, however.

Hey. What kind of beer did Kingpin get you. Did he get natty light on sale.

[OSBF]

Have you ever met NoDak? He's smarter than probably most that post on here.

His political views are totally opposite of mine but he is a good guy. He gets "piled on" here because he is a lefty. Now it was a wimpy idea of his to leave here but he was fun to argue with.

There are a lot of "big mouths" on here, me included.

Well, if he's a lefty it goes without sayin' that he's way smarter than "most" folks here

He believes in science, not a mythical bearded guy in a flowing white robe that lives somewhere in the sky

[Bison56]

NoDak4Ever...bat**** stupid in the political board and head-up-his-ass homer in the discussion board.

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I second NoDak4Ever

[bobcathpdevil56]

Well there is a great MSU poster named CrazyCat who lives in the town where the State Mental Hospital is located, but he is not even that crazy. Maybe he is the nuttiest???

Lehigh's is pretty easy THE FAN!!

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Have you ever met NoDak? He's smarter than probably most that post on here.

His political views are totally opposite of mine but he is a good guy. He gets "piled on" here because he is a lefty. Now it was a wimpy idea of his to leave here but he was fun to argue with.

There are a lot of "big mouths" on here, me included.

http://jewishcurrents.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/tumblr_mcc3mhrwlV1qm8ikko1_500.jpg

[Bison56]

Not my team. but 4th & Short for ISUr is delusional.

[centennial]

Well, if he's a lefty it goes without sayin' that he's way smarter than "most" folks here

He believes in science, not a mythical bearded guy in a flowing white robe that lives somewhere in the sky
And I believe in science as well. However, it was his homerism that got to me. He talked **** to other teams, and would go MIA as soon as NDSU would lose.

[UNIFanSince1983]

This thread just makes you realize how many great NDSU posters are no longer with us here.

Mpls, Lakes, JBB, and NoDak.

Lets pour one out for our lost homies! xdrunkyx

[OSBF]

Not my team. but 4th & Short for ISUr is delusional.

He's really not that "bad"
well................
As compared to "most" posters on RBF
At least the ILS posters that bother to come here actually know something about football
That's more than can be said about the majority on RBF

[kalm]

JBB hands down. He was never out of character. But GATW makes a great point about his prediction of Bison dominance. xlolx

LOL at the Nodak4ever hate. What bunch of butt hurt conservative nancies. xlolx

For some reason, EWU message board users tend to be quite rational. The Redzone is downright boring sometimes with the lack of homerism.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

JBB hands down. He was never out of character. But GATW makes a great point about his prediction of Bison dominance. xlolx

LOL at the Nodak4ever hate. What bunch of butt hurt conservative nancies. xlolx

For some reason, EWU message board users tend to be quite rational. The Redzone is downright boring sometimes with the lack of homerism.

Do you even call 7 posters agreeing with one another homerism.........talk about DELUSIONAL!!!

I nominate Kalm for EWU

[POD Knows]

This thread just makes you realize how many great NDSU posters are no longer with us here.

Mpls, Lakes, JBB, and NoDak.

Lets pour one out for our lost homies! xdrunkyx

I joined this board for the sole purpose of dumping all over Nodak and the douche bag leaves. WTF

[skinny_uncle]

mmmm.... a legit contender but he's no JBB disappearing in an explosion of gay porn...


Saluki fans, of course are, the very soul of objectivity.xcoffeex
We just restrict the delusional ones to Salukination.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

So......no posters on that site?

[Bison56]

JBB for the title.

[Thumper 76]

Hey. What kind of beer did Kingpin get you. Did he get natty light on sale.

Find out tonight, I requested MGD or Coors Light.

[Thumper 76]

We just restrict the delusional ones to Salukination.

You did just recently have a certain poster claim both qbs competing for the starting spot were better the Iannoti.....

[skinny_uncle]

You did just recently have a certain poster claim both qbs competing for the starting spot were better the Iannoti.....
I missed that. Too soon to qualify as delusional. If it is underdawg, I might take it seriously.

[Thumper 76]

I missed that. Too soon to qualify as delusional. If it is underdawg, I might take it seriously.

It's was him, how'd you know xlolx

[bobcathpdevil56]

BTW, the most delusional NDSU poster ever has to be MaPLeSBison (I know that is not his username, but that is what I always called him in my head). He was great fun while he was here

[skinny_uncle]

It's was him, how'd you know xlolx

He runs on the optimistic side, but he does actually go to the scrimmages.

[BisonFan02]

And I believe in science as well. However, it was his homerism that got to me. He talked **** to other teams, and would go MIA as soon as NDSU would lose.

Bingo.....met him once at the Wurst Bier hall and he was a wet blanket. **** him. xlolx

[caribbeanhen]

Have you ever met NoDak? He's smarter than probably most that post on here.

His political views are totally opposite of mine but he is a good guy. He gets "piled on" here because he is a lefty. Now it was a wimpy idea of his to leave here but he was fun to argue with.

There are a lot of "big mouths" on here, me included.

he was smart, but not smart enough to admit he was ever wrong, especially when he tried to tell me how things were in Puerto Rico for Chris sake.....too funny

anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if that whole episode with his wife and the supposed racial statement was totally fabricated, he probably put her up to it ..... fame and fortune followed by the book deal.... book it..... pun intended

[PAllen]

We lost our clear winner in this category a few years ago, so now it's down to LFN or Owl. They both have their moments. Of course every other PL poster pales in comparison to Killabee.

[REALBird]

I guess one would have to post consistently to be "delusional". Random musings and kool-aid swilling is commonplace to a degree. I just know it ain't me.

[Daytripper]

As for team, I guess that would be me or daytripper (goofy liberal)...He's prolly a katfans poster that I know...

Anyone meet someone at a tailgate that you bicker with online? That's always fun xlolx

Guilty as charged...xdrunkyx

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

We lost our clear winner in this category a few years ago, so now it's down to LFN or Owl. They both have there moments. Of course every other PL poster pales in comparison to Killabee.

Ouch....and I try to keep it between the navigational beacons. Owell....xdrunkyx xrotatehx

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Bingo.....met him once at the Wurst Bier hall and he was a wet blanket. **** him. xlolx
<-----whistles as he walks away

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[clenz]

Bingo.....met him once at the Wurst Bier hall and he was a wet blanket. **** him. xlolx
Yeah. He ignored me completely once he found out who I was and the fact I wasn't black........xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx

I've disapointed many that have met me, none because I am white

[Thumper 76]

HOLD UP. Clenz isn't black? http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160830/9eaca5e08a986b7b4c459459274e340c.jpg

[Lehigh'98]

Yeah. He ignored me completely once he found out who I was and the fact I wasn't black........xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxl olxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx

I've disapointed many that have met me, none because I am white

Why did anyone think you were black?

[PantherRob82]

Me.

You think? I'd say your are fairly reasonable in your assessments.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

I knew Clenz wasnt black because he had a job and is raising his kid.......................................#boom (that should just about do it) xcoffeex





Edit: Oh wait............this isnt the Kaepernick thread...................................

[Silenoz]

That all went down at CS.com...One of the mods gave him a UND related avatar and it sent him over the edge.
They had a system at the time that let you pay for the banner of your choice for other users. Best $10 I ever spent.

Seriously, he left the FCS internet over it. That's priceless.

[Silenoz]

Though he did eventually admit on eGriz that he is handicapped in some way (or possibly just mentally ill). So... part of me does kind of feel bad for even engaging him.

[POD Knows]

Why did anyone think you were black?

Because he doesn't know how to swim??

[ysubigred]

Ummm, can't think of anybody just seen Delusional and this was all I could come up with xdrunkyx

http://media.philly.com/images/Clinton8.jpg

[Silenoz]

Well there is a great MSU poster named CrazyCat who lives in the town where the State Mental Hospital is located, but he is not even that crazy. Maybe he is the nuttiest???

Lehigh's is pretty easy THE FAN!!
Well 2506 was either run off or died, but he had that title locked up by a large margin

[TheKingpin28]

Hey. What kind of beer did Kingpin get you. Did he get natty light on sale.

He wanted either Coors or Miller. I am not a cheapskate. I will never buy ANYONE Natty Light. Period. You want that swill, you buy it yourself. I will give you what I owe for it, but I will not buy it.

EDIT: I have to drop it off today around 5:30 so I have yet to do it.

[Grizalltheway]

Well 2506 was either run off or died, but he had that title locked up by a large margin
IIRC he was talking an especially big game before the Brawl in 2014, and then the 7 turnovers thing happened.

[Silenoz]

IIRC he was talking an especially big game before the Brawl in every year ever

FIFY


Only matched by his talk about how UNI was going to destroy us in 2011

[clenz]

HOLD UP. Clenz isn't black? http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160830/9eaca5e08a986b7b4c459459274e340c.jpgShocking....I know

[clenz]

You think? I'd say your are fairly reasonable in your assessments.
I'm the most outspoken. I'm the most opinionated. I'm the one that's "most recognizable" because of how often I post.

What I've noticed is that people really hate me when I talk about their school because they think I'm hating them. Yet I take the same approach and same tactic to every other school and they agree with me and tell me things like "pretty good analysis" or something like that.

I'm not real good at sugar coating and it causes friction between myself and others.

I know how well I'm liked by PantherNation, which is why I always just assume I'm "that" UNI fan to everyone else.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

FIFY


Only matched by his talk about how UNI was going to destroy us in 2011

He is still around, hes a really good dude, live in a small central MT town and has a great gig there. Solid as they come in real life.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

I'm the most outspoken. I'm the most opinionated. I'm the one that's "most recognizable" because of how often I post.

What I've noticed is that people really hate me when I talk about their school because they think I'm hating them. Yet I take the same approach and same tactic to every other school and they agree with me and tell me things like "pretty good analysis" or something like that.

I'm not real good at sugar coating and it causes friction between myself and others.

I know how well I'm liked by PantherNation, which is why I always just assume I'm "that" UNI fan to everyone else.

I still like you Clenz, at least you didnt fall off a tailgate......................so you got that going for you.

[BEAR]

HOLD UP. Clenz isn't black?

Right!!?!

But then I thought Panther88 was black..then I realized..... he's just not white. :D

[McNeese72]

Right!!?!

But then I thought Panther88 was black..then I realized..... he's just not white. :D

Panther88 is just a great dude. Hope to run into him again at a game in the future. Was supposed to meet him at a tailgate at a McNeese-Sam game (the same year after he tailgated with us for the McNeese-Prairie View game) but my ride ran late and I didn't get to tailgate at all. I hope he didn't think that I intentionally avoided him.

Doc

[clenz]

Bingo.....met him once at the Wurst Bier hall and he was a wet blanket. **** him. xlolx

Bring me Wurst Beer Hall

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

http://jewishcurrents.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/tumblr_mcc3mhrwlV1qm8ikko1_500.jpg




Have you ever met him?

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Well, if he's a lefty it goes without sayin' that he's way smarter than "most" folks here

He believes in science, not a mythical bearded guy in a flowing white robe that lives somewhere in the sky


Well that "mythical" guy did walk on this earth around 2000 years ago.

We'll see if you're right wont we....

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Have you ever met him?
Yes at the Wurst Bier Hall

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[Milktruck74]

I was born a poor black child in Alabama.

[caribbeanhen]

You are killing me, Hen, ****. Actually, he pissed me off so bad that I had him whacked. I dumped him the Delaware River.

I always thought he was interacting on here as some part of a college course or something, professor takes a conservative kid and makes him take the other side to earn 3 credits or something like that, besides no one in there right mind could actually believe the stupid things he said, which brings me to you....

[Bisonoline]

Right!!?!

But then I thought Panther88 was black..then I realized..... he's just not white. :D

OMG!!! xlmaox

[POD Knows]

I always thought he was interacting on here as some part of a college course or something, professor takes a conservative kid and makes him take the other side to earn 3 credits or something like that, besides no one in there right mind could actually believe the stupid things he said, which brings me to you....

You talking to me, you got a problem with me, what do you got?

[BisonFan02]

<-----whistles as he walks away

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**** you too. xlolx

[BisonFan02]

HOLD UP. Clenz isn't black? http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160830/9eaca5e08a986b7b4c459459274e340c.jpg

He's lying. Darkness!

[BisonFan02]

Yes at the Wurst Bier Hall

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http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/03/Shocked-What-GIF.gif?gs=a

[Professor Chaos]

I'm the most outspoken. I'm the most opinionated. I'm the one that's "most recognizable" because of how often I post.

What I've noticed is that people really hate me when I talk about their school because they think I'm hating them. Yet I take the same approach and same tactic to every other school and they agree with me and tell me things like "pretty good analysis" or something like that.

I'm not real good at sugar coating and it causes friction between myself and others.

I know how well I'm liked by PantherNation, which is why I always just assume I'm "that" UNI fan to everyone else.
Unigriff has got you beat xthumbsupx

Fortunately for us, or unfortunately for you, he doesn't bless us with his delusions too often.

[Thumper 76]

He's lying. Darkness!

I may have been fooled by clenz's blackness but I am kicking Kjngpins ass in beer pong

[JSUSoutherner]

I may have been fooled by clenz's blackness but I am kicking Kjngpins ass in beer pong
Please. I'm the best beer pong player on the board. I'm also pretty good at flip cup.

[caribbeanhen]

You talking to me, you got a problem with me, what do you got?

talking to you? no, but the living legend has got a little tune for you POD, have you heard your post Beatle career McCartney tune today?

this one is very simplistic piano driven melody, like only he can do it, that's why he's the legend

another note, he replaced Lennon with Linda, and despite all the criticism he and she got about it, she jumped from housewife to band and did very well, she became a very underrated part of the Wings sound

and without further ado, I present to you

Single Pigeon..... enjoy xpeacex

https://youtu.be/phOw_XT96IE?t=67

[Thumper 76]

Please. I'm the best beer pong player on the board. I'm also pretty good at flip cup.

Son, you don't tug on Superman's cape

[Thumper 76]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160831/33796ec303c502bbf4758490ba4e572c.jpg
Welp there's went the case, on to Kingpins house........he did pay up, but lost at pong.....early and often


But NDSU did win 5 straight-added by Kingpin

[Southern Bison]

Please. I'm the best beer pong player on the board. I'm also pretty good at flip cup.
Let's see how good you are after a few years into a career.

Damn kids these days.

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[Redbird007]

TBD ...look at my post count and not my team. BTW Spack got the 'birds on a roll. Speaking of count that is why I am replying...need to get to "10" before I can respond to all topics. Almost there.

[BisonFan02]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160831/33796ec303c502bbf4758490ba4e572c.jpg
Welp there's went the case, on to Kingpins house........he did pay up, but lost at pong.....early and often


But NDSU did win 5 straight-added by Kingpin

http://rs239.pbsrc.com/albums/ff178/ElSandDog/beerfest.jpg~c200

[Thumper 76]

http://rs239.pbsrc.com/albums/ff178/ElSandDog/beerfest.jpg~c200

Accurate

[Houndawg]

Have you ever met NoDak? He's smarter than probably most that post on here.

His political views are totally opposite of mine but he is a good guy. He gets "piled on" here because he is a lefty. Now it was a wimpy idea of his to leave here but he was fun to argue with.

There are a lot of "big mouths" on here, me included.

Met him at SIU, good guy. He and Tatanka were the only NDSU fans that would speak. The rest of them stand around a half million dollar RV and look at you like you're about to hit them up for spare change. Offer them Buffalo Trace and they recoil in horror.xsmhx

[OSBF]

Well that "mythical" guy did walk on this earth around 2000 years ago.

We'll see if you're right wont we....

prove it

[Gil Dobie]

NDSU's disappeared a few years ago: Lakes

He doesn't even go to games.

[PAllen]

prove it

Seriously? You're seriously going to state that a man named Jesus Christ didn't live in the middle east about 2000 years ago? You don't have to believe he was the son of God, but there is more than enough non-biblical evidence to prove he existed. What's next, deny the holocaust happened?

[clenz]

prove it
That.....

I....

There is no question that Jesus actually existed

What you believe beyond that is up to you, but Jesus and all 12 disciples are 100% real people.

Cornelius Tacitus was considered the greatest historian of ancient Rome. He wrote of Nero who "punished with the most exquisite tortures, the persons commonly called Christians, who were hated for their enormities. Christus [Christ], the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius: but the pernicious superstition, repressed for a time, broke out again, not only through Judea, where the mischief originiated, but through the city of Rome also." (Annals XV, 44 as quoted in The New Evidence That Demands a Verdict by Josh )

Flavius Josephus, a Jewish historian, (A.D. 38-100+) wrote about Jesus in his Jewish Antiquities, saying that Jesus was a wise man who did surprising feats, taught many, won over followers from among Jews and Greeks, that Jesus was believed to be the Messiah, was accused by the Jewish leaders, was condemned to be crucified by Pilate (Noted in Jesus Under Fire by Michael J. Wilkins and J. P. Moreland, Zondervan Publishing)


http://www.inquisitr.com/1696092/did-jesus-actually-exist-was-he-a-real-person/
However, there is historical evidence outside of Christian sources that indicates that Jesus existed and was a real person in the writings of at least two historians of the time.
There are two mentions of Jesus by a well known historian named Josephus who, in around 94 A.D., made references to Jesus in his Antiquities of the Jews. In the first, he says (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/maps/primary/josephusjesus.html), “And there arose about this time Jesus, a wise man, if indeed we should call him a man; for he was a doer of marvelous deeds, a teacher of men who receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was the Christ… and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct to this day.”
The other reference by Josephus was a mention (http://josephus.org/quotes.htm) of “a man named James, the brother of Jesus who was called the Christ, and certain others.” Thus, it appears that Josephus had knowledge of the historical, living Jesus.
The other writer who mentions Jesus was Tacitus, A Roman historian who wrote of the “notoriously depraved Christians (http://www.usna.edu/Users/history/abels/hh205/pliny.html)” and “their originator, Christ, had been executed in Tiberius’ reign by the governor of Judea, Pontius Pilatus.” Tacitus apparently thought little of Christians, and so, was not writing to support the idea that Jesus existed.
Finally, it is interesting to note that the existence of Jesus and whether he was real was not denied by critics in antiquity. It has only been in relatively recent times that the actual existence of Jesus has been questioned (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2776194/Jesus-never-existed-Writer-finds-no-mention-Christ-126-historical-texts-says-mythical-character.html). Considering this and the references to a historical Jesus by non-Christian writers, there would seem to be evidence that could support an argument that Jesus Christ was a real person who actually existed.

[superman7515]

You're seriously going to state that a man named Jesus Christ didn't live in the middle east about 2000 years ago?

Yes. 100% yes. His name wouldn't have been Jesus, it would have been something like Yehoshua bar Yoseph. His name was just a variation of Joshua, it would have been closer to Joshua son of Joseph than Jesus. And Christ is a title, of sorts, not his last name. So I am seriously going to state that a man named Jesus Christ didn't live in the middle east 2000 years ago.

[ysubigred]

Yes. 100% yes. His name wouldn't have been Jesus, it would have been something like Yehoshua bar Yoseph. His name was just a variation of Joshua, it would have been closer to Joshua son of Joseph than Jesus. And Christ is a title, of sorts, not his last name. So I am seriously going to state that a man named Jesus Christ didn't live in the middle east 2000 years ago.

So you're sayin he's from Mexico? xeyebrowx

[OL FU]

For Furman it is probably me, but only cause when I log in the first thing I look for is to see if ysubigred has started another hot chick thread.xthumbsupx

[TheKingpin28]

Accurate

And that was a solid night. Now to give a discussion on a 250 page book that I read within 7 days on a snippet of the Dakota War. Today will be a fun day.

[ysubigred]

For Furman it is probably me, but only cause when I log in the first thing I look for is to see if ysubigred has started another hot chick thread.xthumbsupx

My latest work of art! xdrunkyx

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?184236-It-s-almost-football-season!!!

[eiu1999]

I guess that eiu1999 guy

[OSBF]

Yes. 100% yes. His name wouldn't have been Jesus, it would have been something like Yehoshua bar Yoseph. His name was just a variation of Joshua, it would have been closer to Joshua son of Joseph than Jesus. And Christ is a title, of sorts, not his last name. So I am seriously going to state that a man named Jesus Christ didn't live in the middle east 2000 years ago.

Well, this is where I was going with my statement

and, that he was probably dark skinned, perhaps even, ................GASP, ...........of African heritage.
and was with almost 100% certainty married

[Thumper 76]

And that was a solid night. Now to give a discussion on a 250 page book that I read within 7 days on a snippet of the Dakota War. Today will be a fun day.

You poor bastard. That doesn't sound like a good time. Last night sure was tho!

[Laker]

Now to give a discussion on a 250 page book that I read within 7 days on a snippet of the Dakota War. Today will be a fun day.

What part of the Dakota War? I was at Ft. Ridgely (MN) on Saturday and will be there again tonight.

[Twentysix]

Yes. 100% yes. His name wouldn't have been Jesus, it would have been something like Yehoshua bar Yoseph. His name was just a variation of Joshua, it would have been closer to Joshua son of Joseph than Jesus. And Christ is a title, of sorts, not his last name. So I am seriously going to state that a man named Jesus Christ didn't live in the middle east 2000 years ago.

Christ is also Greek (Christos) not Hebrew... and it is a title as you mentioned, which means Messiah. The man who the books were written about was probably named about 400 years after he died.

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And that was a solid night. Now to give a discussion on a 250 page book that I read within 7 days on a snippet of the Dakota War. Today will be a fun day.

Enjoying capstone with Isern? If you go to gradschool you will be doing that three times a week, every week.

[TheKingpin28]

Christ is also Greek (Christos) not Hebrew...

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Enjoying capstone with Isern?

Isern is always a great choice and he is thinking of making this the last Dakota War Seminar. He wants to possibly move on to something else.


What part of the Dakota War? I was at Ft. Ridgely (MN) on Saturday and will be there again tonight.

Dakota War in relation to The Battle of Killdeer Mountain with an emphasis on Sibley and Sully's expeditions

[TheKingpin28]

You poor bastard. That doesn't sound like a good time. Last night sure was tho!

I survived the discussion but I almost fell asleep 2x during the discussion. I felt bad but I could not deal with staying awake.

[TheRevSFA]

That.....

I....

There is no question that Jesus actually existed

What you believe beyond that is up to you, but Jesus and all 12 disciples are 100% real people.

Cornelius Tacitus was considered the greatest historian of ancient Rome. He wrote of Nero who "punished with the most exquisite tortures, the persons commonly called Christians, who were hated for their enormities. Christus [Christ], the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius: but the pernicious superstition, repressed for a time, broke out again, not only through Judea, where the mischief originiated, but through the city of Rome also." (Annals XV, 44 as quoted in The New Evidence That Demands a Verdict by Josh )

Flavius Josephus, a Jewish historian, (A.D. 38-100+) wrote about Jesus in his Jewish Antiquities, saying that Jesus was a wise man who did surprising feats, taught many, won over followers from among Jews and Greeks, that Jesus was believed to be the Messiah, was accused by the Jewish leaders, was condemned to be crucified by Pilate (Noted in Jesus Under Fire by Michael J. Wilkins and J. P. Moreland, Zondervan Publishing)





Both of these men lived after Jesus supposedly was alive, so they didn't actually witness him in person

[TheRevSFA]

prove it

Are you trying to say that Jesus Christ couldn't hit a curveball?

[Twentysix]

Both of these men lived after Jesus supposedly was alive, so they didn't actually witness him in person

Human memory stretches back 5 generations if you are lucky. Ideally that means your grandparents talked to their grandparents. Anything longer ago than that is basically impossible without written records.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

prove it


Why do I need to?

You are not a believer, so whatever I present you will say is bogus.

Roman historians Tacitus (Roman senator) chronicled him as did the Jews.

I could say Bible references but it was written by committed believers so that would not count for you obviously.

There are probably close to 3 billion people on this planet that are influenced by this man. I suppose they are all dumbasses according to you.

[PantherRob82]

Unigriff has got you beat xthumbsupx

Fortunately for us, or unfortunately for you, he doesn't bless us with his delusions too often.

The best coach/wedding DJ in Texas. :D

[caribbeanhen]

Yes. 100% yes. His name wouldn't have been Jesus, it would have been something like Yehoshua bar Yoseph. His name was just a variation of Joshua, it would have been closer to Joshua son of Joseph than Jesus. And Christ is a title, of sorts, not his last name. So I am seriously going to state that a man named Jesus Christ didn't live in the middle east 2000 years ago.

I'll follow that up by seriously stating that a man named Christopher Columbus did not discover America either...

[1984]

I'll follow that up by seriously stating that a man named Christopher Columbus did not discover America either...

For Europeans yes. but there were a few others from other places that "discovered" America. Including a few American Indians from various tribes.

[caribbeanhen]

For Europeans yes. but there were a few others from other places that "discovered" America. Including a few American Indians from various tribes.

right, but I don't really get the "for Europeans yes" .... down here he is know as Cristobol Colon, and that's not right either

[Twentysix]

For Europeans yes. but there were a few others from other places that "discovered" America. Including a few American Indians from various tribes.

Italians simply weren't named Christopher. That is what he means. Cristoforo Colombo is his name. Christopher Columbus is his name anglicized long after he died. Hispanohablantes call him Cristobal Colon, as I'm assuming the Kingdom in which he worked also called him at that time.

Also, what? There were 50 to 100 million indigenous americans living on this continent during the pre-Columbian. A few, pffffft.

[Twentysix]

Unigriff has got you beat xthumbsupx

Fortunately for us, or unfortunately for you, he doesn't bless us with his delusions too often.

Ha, back in '09 I bet him that NDSU would win a NC before UNI. Then NDSU went 3-9. Of course I was still right.

[ElCid]

prove it


Seriously? You're seriously going to state that a man named Jesus Christ didn't live in the middle east about 2000 years ago? You don't have to believe he was the son of God, but there is more than enough non-biblical evidence to prove he existed. What's next, deny the holocaust happened?


Why do I need to?

You are not a believer, so whatever I present you will say is bogus.

Roman historians Tacitus (Roman senator) chronicled him as did the Jews.

I could say Bible references but it was written by committed believers so that would not count for you obviously.

There are probably close to 3 billion people on this planet that are influenced by this man. I suppose they are all dumbasses according to you.

The whole "Jesus is not a real historical figure" is rather an old and silly argument. But if you think about it logically, there would have been quite a bit of effort to not retain "non-biblical" references from history. Why? Because the bible, specifically the gospels, contained the history. And even if there were more than the 4 currently included in the NT, it really is not that hard to imagine. First off there were not that many historians recording every thing to begin with. Those that were associated with the church, especially after the 3rd century were not inclined to make new histories. Why? Think they are were going to write up a separate history so some 21st century non believer can feel better? Uhh...NO. Any earlier histories, contemporarily written by non Christians were probably not protected or saved except the few that survive since they may not have been in line with church doctrine. That the majority of these historians would not include a history of some "holy man" from Judea, and who was not in line with the agenda of their imperial patrons is news to anyone? And once the Empire was Christianized, any history that did not conform to the gospels was probably specifically not saved. Viewed today, absent of anyone's personal beliefs or agenda, this is not really hard to figure out.

[Houndawg]

Ha, back in '09 I bet him that NDSU would win a NC before UNI. Then NDSU went 3-9. Of course I was still right.

The Cubs will win the World Series before UNI wins an NC.xcoffeex

[Tribal]

We need to do a HOF thread for this at some point. I can't write "Panama" fast enough.

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[superman7515]

For Europeans yes.

Except that we've been here on Delmarva for over 20,000 years and have the 22,000 year old man-made tools to prove it...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/radical-theory-of-first-americans-places-stone-age-europeans-in-delmarva-20000-years-ago/2012/02/28/gIQA4mriiR_story.html


When the crew of the Virginia scallop trawler Cinmar hauled a mastodon tusk onto the deck in 1970, another oddity dropped out of the net: a dark, tapered stone blade, nearly eight inches long and still sharp.
Forty years later, this rediscovered prehistoric slasher has reopened debate on a radical theory about who the first Americans were and when they got here.

Archaeologists have long held that North America remained unpopulated until about 15,000 years ago, when Siberian people walked or boated into Alaska and then moved down the West Coast.

But the mastodon relic found near the mouth of the Chesapeake Bay turned out to be 22,000 years old, suggesting that the blade was just as ancient.

Whoever fashioned that blade was not supposed to be here.

Its makers probably paddled from Europe and arrived in America thousands of years ahead of the western migration, making them the first Americans, argues Smithsonian Institution anthropologist Dennis Stanford (http://anthropology.si.edu/staff/Stanford/Stanford.html).

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

The whole "Jesus is not a real historical figure" is rather an old and silly argument. But if you think about it logically, there would have been quite a bit of effort to not retain "non-biblical" references from history. Why? Because the bible, specifically the gospels, contained the history. And even if there were more than the 4 currently included in the NT, it really is not that hard to imagine. First off there were not that many historians recording every thing to begin with. Those that were associated with the church, especially after the 3rd century were not inclined to make new histories. Why? Think they are were going to write up a separate history so some 21st century non believer can feel better? Uhh...NO. Any earlier histories, contemporarily written by non Christians were probably not protected or saved except the few that survive since they may not have been in line with church doctrine. That the majority of these historians would not include a history of some "holy man" from Judea, and who was not in line with the agenda of their imperial patrons is news to anyone? And once the Empire was Christianized, any history that did not conform to the gospels was probably specifically not saved. Viewed today, absent of anyone's personal beliefs or agenda, this is not really hard to figure out.



xnodxxthumbsupx

[OSBF]

Why do I need to?

You are not a believer, so whatever I present you will say is bogus.

Roman historians Tacitus (Roman senator) chronicled him as did the Jews.

I could say Bible references but it was written by committed believers so that would not count for you obviously.

There are probably close to 3 billion people on this planet that are influenced by this man. I suppose they are all dumbasses according to you.

I am VERY much a believer.....................
In chemistry, biology, physics, geology, astronomy, archeology, etc etc

The Bible is without doubt one of the greatest pieces of literature ever. Biography, history, and wilder sci-fi adventures than AJ Abrahams could ever come up with
It gives us a wonderful framework of how to treat others, the basic message of be nice to each other still resonates
My problem comes with those that cherry pick the bits and pieces that they choose to adhere to, and to hold others to
They use it as a "moral" basis to justify their own hate of anyone that isn't just like they are
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the authors never intended it to be used for that purpose

All "sin" is equal, the bible says so and the Bible is the Word of God
We are all "sinners", the Bible says so, and the Bible is the Word of God

So now we've got a whole slew of ppl running around screaming about religious freedom to justify discrimination of LBGT's because they're "sinners"
LMFAO
Those wedding planners, florists, caterers, etc might as well just close up shop, because if they wish to express their religion by not providing services to sinners, they aren't providing services to ANYBODY.

Just be nice to each other. Don't hate each other, especially those that aren't exactly like you are.
Just leave each other alone provided who they are and what they are isn't hurting you.

[FormerPokeCenter]

Except that we've been here on Delmarva for over 20,000 years and have the 22,000 year old man-made tools to prove it...


The whole notion that man had to paddle form Europe 22,000 years ago is kinda nuts.

The ice sheet during the last glaciation was such that he probably could have walked....

[FormerPokeCenter]

Those wedding planners, florists, caterers, etc might as well just close up shop, because if they wish to express their religion by not providing services to sinners, they aren't providing services to ANYBODY.


You miss the point. They don't seek to withhold their services to sinners. They just wish to refrain from supporting a celebration of what they see as a sin. I'm sure that if a gay couple sought the services of a florist (perhaps that's a poor example) he'd sell flowers in a heart beat. Same thing with a baker. But, to ask them to specifically design flowers or a cake that overtly celebrate what the baker or florist sees as a sin is perhaps a little much. it would be much like forcing a doctor to perform abortions of convenience.

[Thumper 76]

I am VERY much a believer.....................
In chemistry, biology, physics, geology, astronomy, archeology, etc etc

The Bible is without doubt one of the greatest pieces of literature ever. Biography, history, and wilder sci-fi adventures than AJ Abrahams could ever come up with
It gives us a wonderful framework of how to treat others, the basic message of be nice to each other still resonates
My problem comes with those that cherry pick the bits and pieces that they choose to adhere to, and to hold others to
They use it as a "moral" basis to justify their own hate of anyone that isn't just like they are
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the authors never intended it to be used for that purpose

All "sin" is equal, the bible says so and the Bible is the Word of God
We are all "sinners", the Bible says so, and the Bible is the Word of God

So now we've got a whole slew of ppl running around screaming about religious freedom to justify discrimination of LBGT's because they're "sinners"
LMFAO
Those wedding planners, florists, caterers, etc might as well just close up shop, because if they wish to express their religion by not providing services to sinners, they aren't providing services to ANYBODY.

Just be nice to each other. Don't hate each other, especially those that aren't exactly like you are.
Just leave each other alone provided who they are and what they are isn't hurting you.

How many Christians actually did that though? Refused services for someone because they were gay? I remember the bake shop, the loony chick who worked for the government, and maybe two or three more?

[OSBF]

You miss the point. They don't seek to withhold their services to sinners. They just wish to refrain from supporting a celebration of what they see as a sin. I'm sure that if a gay couple sought the services of a florist (perhaps that's a poor example) he'd sell flowers in a heart beat. Same thing with a baker. But, to ask them to specifically design flowers or a cake that overtly celebrate what the baker or florist sees as a sin is perhaps a little much. it would be much like forcing a doctor to perform abortions of convenience.

If they don't take the exact same stance with a hetro couple that had out of wedlock sex or either was divorced they are still celebrating the "sin"

At the core of this it's not about "sin"

It's about using religion to justify and perhaps rationalize discrimination against those that are different than we are, and those we see as somehow beneath us is social/moral standing

Human kind has been doing this since the very beginning of recorded history

[OSBF]

How many Christians actually did that though? Refused services for someone because they were gay? I remember the bake shop, the loony chick who worked for the government, and maybe two or three more?

Got a case pending right now 10 miles from me. Owners of a B&B refused to host a ceremony for a lesbian couple

It's currently in the courts

The civil settlement could put them out of business

[Thumper 76]

Got a case pending right now 10 miles from me. Owners of a B&B refused to host a ceremony for a lesbian couple

It's currently in the courts

The civil settlement could put them out of business

K so we're up to four. This happens with a regularity less frequent than attempted terrorist attacks then. And is nonviolent. So do you have this sort of distaste for Muslims as well as Christians then? The Christians aren't killing anybody when they disagree with them, just refusing service and maybe saying mean things.

[FormerPokeCenter]

If they don't take the exact same stance with a hetro couple that had out of wedlock sex or either was divorced they are still celebrating the "sin"

How many out of wedlock couples come in and say "I'd like a cake to celebrate my bastard son's birthday?"....or how many couples come in and ask for a "Celebration of Divorce" cake?

You're either really missing the point, or engaging in theatre of the absurd, writ large...

[ElCid]

The whole notion that man had to paddle form Europe 22,000 years ago is kinda nuts.

The ice sheet during the last glaciation was such that he probably could have walked....

I think that this one of the biggest stories about the explode. Yes some have been saying it for a while now, but not a lot of mainstream discussion. Doesn't fit the current politically correct narrative.

[clenz]

I am VERY much a believer.....................
In chemistry, biology, physics, geology, astronomy, archeology, etc etc

The Bible is without doubt one of the greatest pieces of literature ever. Biography, history, and wilder sci-fi adventures than AJ Abrahams could ever come up with
It gives us a wonderful framework of how to treat others, the basic message of be nice to each other still resonates
My problem comes with those that cherry pick the bits and pieces that they choose to adhere to, and to hold others to
They use it as a "moral" basis to justify their own hate of anyone that isn't just like they are
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the authors never intended it to be used for that purpose

All "sin" is equal, the bible says so and the Bible is the Word of God
We are all "sinners", the Bible says so, and the Bible is the Word of God

So now we've got a whole slew of ppl running around screaming about religious freedom to justify discrimination of LBGT's because they're "sinners"
LMFAO
Those wedding planners, florists, caterers, etc might as well just close up shop, because if they wish to express their religion by not providing services to sinners, they aren't providing services to ANYBODY.

Just be nice to each other. Don't hate each other, especially those that aren't exactly like you are.
Just leave each other alone provided who they are and what they are isn't hurting you.
You're letting your hatred of religion cause you to ignore the fact that anyone that was a historian at the time admits that the one called Jesus was a real person

The stories of his birth, miracles, etc... may all be fictionalized but it's nearly universally agreed that "Jesus" existed and taught and had his followers.

[Drblankstare]

I must admit I did not see this thread drift coming.

[F'N Hawks]

I must admit I did not see this thread drift coming.

I am learning a ***** ton of stuff.

[FormerPokeCenter]

I think that this one of the biggest stories about the explode. Yes some have been saying it for a while now, but not a lot of mainstream discussion. Doesn't fit the current politically correct narrative.


Or...man might have been here for much, much longer....with migration coming, as it does now, in waves. If the theory about a massive die off about 71,000 years ago is correct, man might have been in the Americas way back when...and then repopulated the continent after such a die off.

I think the evidence for pre-Columbian European migration is pretty strong along the eastern seaboard. You can look at some of the Mandan Indian culture and lore and see European influences. You can look at the Olmec in Central America and see African influences. At their closes, it's only 1800 miles between Africa and South America...it's sorta unrealistic to expect that there wasn't any migration between the two.

And let's not even get started on mummification and pyramids around the globe ;)

[OSBF]

How many out of wedlock couples come in and say "I'd like a cake to celebrate my bastard son's birthday?"....or how many couples come in and ask for a "Celebration of Divorce" cake?

You're either really missing the point, or engaging in theatre of the absurd, writ large...

So the number of instances matters more than the substance?

Govt sanctioned/protected discrimination is OK provided it doesn't affect some pre-determined number?

[OSBF]

You're letting your hatred of religion cause you to ignore the fact that anyone that was a historian at the time admits that the one called Jesus was a real person

The stories of his birth, miracles, etc... may all be fictionalized but it's nearly universally agreed that "Jesus" existed and taught and had his followers.

Don't hate religion at all

Just don't have much use for either hypocrites or bigots, or those that hide behind the specter of religion to justify either

[clenz]

Don't hate religion at all

Just don't have much use for either hypocrites or bigots, or those that hide behind the specter of religion to justify either
Okay....

So that means Jesus, or whatever his name may have been, didn't exist contrary to pretty much everything that's out there?

[FormerPokeCenter]

So the number of instances matters more than the substance?

Govt sanctioned/protected discrimination is OK provided it doesn't affect some pre-determined number?

Okay, scratch theater of the absurd. You're simply, and perhaps purposefully, missing the point.

Abstruse much?

[JSUSoutherner]

I am learning a ***** ton of stuff.
UND

Strong and Learning

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23447&stc=1

[Thumper 76]

Don't hate religion at all

Just don't have much use for either hypocrites or bigots, or those that hide behind the specter of religion to justify either

I just find it interesting that people who always say this focus on Christians but are the first one to jump to the defense of Muslims after they kill hundreds of people in the name of their religion.


Do I agree that the people you are talking about are hypocrites? Absolutely. They are picking one thing they don't like and trying to hide behind religion with it. However the people who tend to gleefully point this out and paint all Christians as ignorant and stupid tend to be the first to say don't judge every other group by the actions of a few. Which is just as hypocritical.

[Twentysix]

Except that we've been here on Delmarva for over 20,000 years and have the 22,000 year old man-made tools to prove it...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/radical-theory-of-first-americans-places-stone-age-europeans-in-delmarva-20000-years-ago/2012/02/28/gIQA4mriiR_story.html

This is a fun theory but still roundly rejected. Just search google for some evidence that disputes it and you will find boatloads.

[UNIFanSince1983]

I just find it interesting that people who always say this focus on Christians but are the first one to jump to the defense of Muslims after they kill hundreds of people in the name of their religion.


Do I agree that the people you are talking about are hypocrites? Absolutely. They are picking one thing they don't like and trying to hide behind religion with it. However the people who tend to gleefully point this out and paint all Christians as ignorant and stupid tend to be the first to say don't judge every other group by the actions of a few. Which is just as hypocritical.

There are quite a few hypocrites out there in terms of judging all Christians for the actions of a few. There are quite a few people judging Muslims for the actions of a few. It is all wrong. Killing people in the name of Allah is wrong. Judging people claiming it is in Jesus' name is wrong too.

It is crazy just how much of the worlds conflicts are from religions which are more or less the same. They have different Prophets, but the main gist of an all powerful creating heaven and earth is there (Islam, Judism, and Christianity). Plus what makes our modern religions less mythology than Greek/Roman or Norse religions which are referred to as mythology now?

[Twentysix]

There are quite a few hypocrites out there in terms of judging all Christians for the actions of a few. There are quite a few people judging Muslims for the actions of a few. It is all wrong. Killing people in the name of Allah is wrong. Judging people claiming it is in Jesus' name is wrong too.

It is crazy just how much of the worlds conflicts are from religions which are more or less the same. They have different Prophets, but the main gist of an all powerful creating heaven and earth is there (Islam, Judism, and Christianity). Plus what makes our modern religions less mythology than Greek/Roman or Norse religions which are referred to as mythology now?

The beliefs of the people having the arguement. If you think this style of argument is new or some how specific to the abrahamic religions, you are sorely mistaken.

[jacksfan29]

I am VERY much a believer.....................
In chemistry, biology, physics, geology, astronomy, archeology, etc etc



Funny, I'm a Christian, and like every Christian I know, I believe in all the sciences also. Not every Christian thinks the world is 6000 years old. In fact, you may want to Google scientists who believe in God. There are a lot more out there than you may think. Just because a small minority of Christian's are the loudest, and get the most coverage because we all know crazy sells doesn't mean every Christian out there believes in what they believe in.

Oh, and if you don't believe Jesus actually is an historical figure you might want to do some research. There is a lot of studies done, by very educated individuals who would disagree with you.

[ElCid]

This is a fun theory but still roundly rejected. Just search google for some evidence that disputes it and you will find boatloads.

That is if you simply believe the analysis of the current "evidence" by these individuals which dispute it. Not trying to preach, but "evidence" is a misnomer since it is scant and requires interpretation and theories to piece it together. Same applies to the whole global warming thing. Lots of evidence, lots of interpretation. When you rely on one view/interpretation to come up with a theory and attack those who may have a differing view/interpretation, for whatever reason (and there are many), I tend to not listen too terribly much to the noise. Instead I look at the raw evidence and try and educate myself.

In this particular case, I was especially interested in the shapes of the arrow points of the older sites. They are very different from the later ones found that are definitely tied to the Asiatic migration. But they were very similar to the European population's arrow heads. Hmm. I don't need someone to tell me this does't matter because of their own viewpoint. I have seen both and it does matter. That is a huge red flag to me that at least requires some consideration and ultimately a satisfactory explanation before I dismiss it.

A couple great examples of attacking a theory by supposedly informed people include the whole tectonics plates theory. I can't remember his name and I would have to search for his story, but I believe a scientist in the early 20th century came up with a theory pretty close to the current theory/model only to be ridiculed. As I recall he was specifically ridiculed because he was not a geologist. How dare he! Turns out he was spot on and vindicated (after his death unfortunately). Likewise, the whole Yucatan meteor strike theory was on the ragged edge of junk science. That is, until they found the layer of iridium.

I don't think all the evidence is in yet. So I am not inclined to dismiss a western migration of some magnitude along the edge of the ice sheet just yet.

[Ivytalk]

Harvard has no delusional fans on AGS. We're cold-blooded realists.

[BisonBacker]

There are quite a few hypocrites out there in terms of judging all Christians for the actions of a few. There are quite a few people judging Muslims for the actions of a few. It is all wrong. Killing people in the name of Allah is wrong. Judging people claiming it is in Jesus' name is wrong too.

It is crazy just how much of the worlds conflicts are from religions which are more or less the same. They have different Prophets, but the main gist of an all powerful creating heaven and earth is there (Islam, Judism, and Christianity). Plus what makes our modern religions less mythology than Greek/Roman or Norse religions which are referred to as mythology now?

I've never heard of anyone openly doing this. If they do so they are not Christians as it is not our place to judge. With that being said human nature being as it is I can honestly say there isn't one person here Christian or not that I believe doesn't judge others to some extent. If they say they don't they are lying.

[semobison]

People have been killing each other for over two thousand years because of the difference in religious beliefs. In fact I would guess most of the wars mankind has fought were religious wars. Personally I think religion is great for some people. Just don't push it it my face! There are a lot of religions that I believe actually breed intolerance. What I believe is between me and the the big guy upstairs! ...Damn, this is some real heavy **** for a football message board!

[ElCid]

...Damn, this is some real heavy **** for a football message board!

Well, as I am sure you know, I believe is is safe to say the average IQ of AGS posters is a significant percentage above any other football message board in existence, so that jives.xnodx We relish is discussing heavy **** topics.

[Daytripper]

We need a creation story to explain our existence. We need divine guidance because we think it helps us do right. We need a heaven to give meaning to our short, painful time on this planet. In short, we need religion. So, we invented it.

[Milktruck74]

Dear Jesus (or whatever you are not offended by and believe in),
Can the season not start already so we can get back to debating football!!!!!! the next two hours are going to pass way too slow!!!!

[clenz]

I half want this to be my first tattoo

http://www.saintsandsceptics.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/flying-spaghetti-monster.jpg


This is my "Crucifixion"

[Milktruck74]

I half want this to be my first tattoo

http://www.saintsandsceptics.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/flying-spaghetti-monster.jpg


This is my "Crucifixion"


Is that spaghetti?

[clenz]

Is that spaghetti?
No just spaghetti


THE Flying Spaghetti Monster


https://vimeo.com/31543194

http://www.venganza.org/about/

[bulldog10jw]

Harvard has no delusional fans on AGS. We're cold-blooded realists.

bonarae is a wonderful poster, but more of a dreamer than a realist. She is always hoping the Ivy Presidents will do the right thing. Something we realists know will never happen.

[SUPharmacist]

Is that spaghetti?

I see you have not yet been touched by his noodly appendage. It will change your entire life outlook.

[Twentysix]

I see you have not yet been touched by his noodly appendage. It will change your entire life outlook.


R'amen

[Bison56]

I half want this to be my first tattoo

http://www.saintsandsceptics.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/flying-spaghetti-monster.jpg


This is my "Crucifixion"

You gonna get it as a tramp stamp?

[FormerPokeCenter]

Pastafarian communions rock...

[Houndawg]

Why do I need to?

You are not a believer, so whatever I present you will say is bogus.

Roman historians Tacitus (Roman senator) chronicled him as did the Jews.

I could say Bible references but it was written by committed believers so that would not count for you obviously.

There are probably close to 3 billion people on this planet that are influenced by this man. I suppose they are all dumbasses according to you.

Written by committed believers long after the fact; none of whom actually met this person.

Just sayin...

[ElCid]

Written by committed believers long after the fact; none of whom actually met this person.

Just sayin...

Might want to do just a little research before you say something like this. Because you loss cred big time.

[Daved]

Me.Hell just froze over--I totally agree with Clenz.

[Bogus Megapardus]

The Georgia State fans from a couple of years ago top my "most delusional" list. I can't recall their names but they were priceless.

[Lehigh'98]

Might want to do just a little research before you say something like this. Because you loss cred big time.

But defying the laws of physics and rising from the dead is very credible?

[PantherRob82]

Did Jesus eat Casey's breakfast pizza? Sausage or bacon?

[ElCid]

But defying the laws of physics and rising from the dead is very credible?

Two different issues dude. As I am sure you knew, but since you simply wanted to spout off a witty response, at least in your own mind, i guess it didn't matter to you.

[dgtw]

The Georgia State fans from a couple of years ago top my "most delusional" list. I can't recall their names but they were priceless.

The Charlotte guy was pretty out there too. I wonder how he felt after Louisville hung 70 on them.


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[Bison56]

Did Jesus eat Casey's breakfast pizza? Sausage or bacon?
It was lamb sausage and bacon back in those days.

[PantherRob82]

It was lamb sausage and bacon back in those days.

Too much or the right amount?

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Written by committed believers long after the fact; none of whom actually met this person.

Just sayin...


Probably true. Still doesn't prove he didn't exist.

My grandmother saw snow on the 4th of July in SW ND over 100 years ago.....did it not happen just because I was not there to see it?

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But defying the laws of physics and rising from the dead is very credible?


If you are not a believer, why care?

[Thumper 76]

If you are not a believer, why care?
It's funny how loud they'll scream about not having religion shoved down their throats and then how much effort they will go into having these arguments and trying to make Christians "look stupid" in their minds. And after the conversation they'll say how they hate people who keep bringing up religion xcoffeex

[chattownmocs]

But defying the laws of physics and rising from the dead is very credible?

According to the laws of physics it's absolutely impossible for anything to exist. I've got news for you, the laws of physics have been broken you idiot.

[SUPharmacist]

According to the laws of physics it's absolutely impossible for anything to exist. I've got news for you, the laws of physics have been broken you idiot.

What? Which laws state it is impossible for anything to exist.

[Bisonator]

It was lamb sausage and bacon back in those days.
Had to be some anchovies on there....pretty sure there was some fish.

[FormerPokeCenter]

What? Which laws state it is impossible for anything to exist.


We've had this discussion about a year ago or so.....Newtonian physics don't work at high speeds and high gravity fields, you have to switch to a special situational laws of physics...

If science is documentable and repeatable, then the "laws of physics" should be universal and not subject to special, situational applicability.

When you need special rules to be benevolently and fortuitously invoked in specific situation, that's called a "Design" ;)

[FormerPokeCenter]

The Georgia State fans from a couple of years ago top my "most delusional" list. I can't recall their names but they were priceless.

Yes, yest they were......SaintDK was the most entertaining one....

[FormerPokeCenter]

But defying the laws of physics and rising from the dead is very credible?

Which laws of physics did the resurrection defy?

[POD Knows]

Which laws of physics did the resurrection defy?

None,

[Lehigh'98]

Which laws of physics did the resurrection defy?

Gravity. He ascended into the heavens opposite earths gravity, no?

[SUPharmacist]

We've had this discussion about a year ago or so.....Newtonian physics don't work at high speeds and high gravity fields, you have to switch to a special situational laws of physics...

If science is documentable and repeatable, then the "laws of physics" should be universal and not subject to special, situational applicability.

When you need special rules to be benevolently and fortuitously invoked in specific situation, that's called a "Design" ;)

I stated nothing about "Design" or religion, your discussion of the conflicts with classical vs quantum physics in no way means physics states nothing can exist. Thanks for the condescending response that does not answer my question. If you care to educate me as to how these different types of rules mean nothing can exist, I am all ears (I am no physicist, and was well aware that physics at this point is not universal).

[FormerPokeCenter]

I stated nothing about "Design" or religion, your discussion of the conflicts with classical vs quantum physics in no way means physics states nothing can exist. Thanks for the condescending response that does not answer my question. If you care to educate me as to how these different types of rules mean nothing can exist, I am all ears (I am no physicist, and was well aware that physics at this point is not universal).


Oy...let's recap.....Somebody said that the laws of physics made it impossible for there to be a resurrection. Which laws? Another poster, not me, indicated that if you went by the laws of physics, nothing would exist, which I took to be a reference to the fact that there's a huge conflict between classical and quantum physics. The laws that are supposed to be universal..well...AREN'T.

So..if those laws aren't universal and don't apply uniformly to every situation, then none of this could simply exist from situational happenstance.

Yet, we're here, having this dicussion, so it does exist. (See Descartes, Renee, for an examination of the scientific method. If that doesn't work, Google "I think, therefore I am."

We either have to resolve the conflict between the physics we employ to describe the world around us...or we have to admit that it's here because of a design that calls for the special imposition of laws in special situations....Kinda like a criminal investigation of Hillary Clinton.

So...my initial intent wasn't be to condescending. However, given the snark in your reply, I'm going to allow myself that indulgence.

Your question actually WAS answered, but if you're not smart enough to connect the dots between the other posters "If we went by physics, none of this would exist" and the conflict between the various "laws" we employ on a situational basis to explain the world around us, I'm not sure there's much point in continuing the discussion further.

[FormerPokeCenter]

Gravity. He ascended into the heavens opposite earths gravity, no?

So, the Earth is a black hole, from which no energy escapes now?

Uh....that's not how this works....that's not how ANY of this works.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Gravity. He ascended into the heavens opposite earths gravity, no?


Yep.

Does it really matter to you?

[Lehigh'98]

Yep.

Does it really matter to you?

it doesn't and I shouldn't have started this. Believe as you wish. No offense meant

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

it doesn't and I shouldn't have started this. Believe as you wish. No offense meant


Same to you also.

Where I get irritated is when some, not implying you, write condescending comments to people that do believe in him.

Even if someone does not believe he existed, what he preached and stood for is beneficial and a good moral checklist for all people.

[Houndawg]

Gravity. He ascended into the heavens opposite earths gravity, no?

We do it all the time.;)

There is actually a way to prove whether or not this recycled Egyptian sun god myth named Jesus really existed, or there will be very soon. All we need to know is the exact date, time, and place that this event was alleged to have taken place.

The claim is that Jesus ascended bodily up to heaven, ergo he had mass. Having mass means that he was constrained by the speed of light . So he can't possibly be more than two thousand light-years from earth and probably considerably less given energy requirements as one approaches c. So if we know exactly where and when the ascension took place we can easily plot his trajectory and locate him given today's technology, or if not now, soon.xthumbsupx

Put an end to this debate once and for all....xnodx

[FormerPokeCenter]

We do it all the time.;)

There is actually a way to prove whether or not this recycled Egyptian sun god myth named Jesus really existed, or there will be very soon. All we need to know is the exact date, time, and place that this event was alleged to have taken place.

The claim is that Jesus ascended bodily up to heaven, ergo he had mass. Having mass means that he was constrained by the speed of light . So he can't possibly be more than two thousand light-years from earth and probably considerably less given energy requirements as one approaches c. So if we know exactly where and when the ascension took place we can easily plot his trajectory and locate him given today's technology, or if not now, soon.xthumbsupx

Put an end to this debate once and for all....xnodx

You're assuming, of course, that "Special Relativity" doesn't apply to Jesus, or that He wasn't composed Tachyons, in which case, He wouldn't necessarily be constrained by the speed of light...and you're assuming that our instruments are sensitive enough to be able to detect an object the size of a human at 2,000 light years, when we have trouble detecting planetary objects at distances much, much closer.

Having said that, I do realize that you're being facetious ;)

[Catsfan90]

wtf happened to this thread?

[JSUSoutherner]

wtf happened to this thread?
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23462&stc=1

[Houndawg]

You're assuming, of course, that "Special Relativity" doesn't apply to Jesus, or that He wasn't composed Tachyons, in which case, He wouldn't necessarily be constrained by the speed of light...and you're assuming that our instruments are sensitive enough to be able to detect an object the size of a human at 2,000 light years, when we have trouble detecting planetary objects at distances much, much closer.

Having said that, I do realize that you're being facetious ;)

No, I'm assuming relativity does apply to Jesus because he had mass at the time of his ascension; and our observational ability is increasing by leaps and bounds. It wasn't very long ago that most scientists would have looked sideways at you if you talked about being able to detect planets around stars.

[FormerPokeCenter]

No, I'm assuming relativity does apply to Jesus because he had mass at the time of his ascension; and our observational ability is increasing by leaps and bounds. It wasn't very long ago that most scientists would have looked sideways at you if you talked about being able to detect planets around stars.

Uh...I think we have a failure to communicate here...

Do you understand what Special Relativity is? Or What Tachyons are?

Or why they're relevant to this conversation??? ;)

And, tell me how you arrived as this assumption that Jesus had Mass at the time of his ascension....

[Houndawg]

Uh...I think we have a failure to communicate here...

Do you understand what Special Relativity is? Or What Tachyons are?

Or why they're relevant to this conversation??? ;)

And, tell me how you arrived as this assumption that Jesus had Mass at the time of his ascension....

The bible says that he ascended bodily to heaven.:)


I understand what Special Relativity is and that it would only be relevant to this conversation if Jesus were moving at a uniform velocity.;)

Tachyons so far only exist on paper.

[skinny_uncle]

Define delusional.

[MR. CHICKEN]

Define delusional.


........BISON FANS....WHOM DRAFTED CARSON WENTZ......AS DEY'RE QB........FO' FANTASY LEAGUES........................................... ..........AWK!

[clenz]

........BISON FANS....WHOM DRAFTED CARSON WENTZ......AS DEY'RE QB........FO' FANTASY LEAGUES........................................... ..........AWK!
I drafted David Johnson last year.

That turned out okay....

[clenz]

Define delusional.
This is probably a good question.

I would say that I'm not the most delusional. AAMF, I've stated many times my doubts UNI ever wins a national title. I will lead the charge as to why UNI is great, but will be one of the first to dump on them.

I'm probably the loudest. Probably the most opinionated. Though if you can somehow get passed my delivery method I genuinely try to be fair to every team/situation....unless I'm fishing.

[MR. CHICKEN]

I drafted David Johnson last year.

That turned out okay....



.............HE WASN'T WEARIN' UH IGGLES JERSEY.............AWK!

[JSUSoutherner]

I drafted David Johnson last year.

That turned out okay....

I actually picked up him in the first round this year.

[Southern Bison]

........BISON FANS....WHOM DRAFTED CARSON WENTZ......AS DEY'RE QB........FO' FANTASY LEAGUES........................................... ..........AWK!

I didn't draft Wentz as our draft was on Wed., 8/31 but I did snag him as my 3rd QB off the waiver wire and he's projected to have more points than my starter this weekend.

Note: Our league commissioner did draft Teddy Bridgewater in the 6th round a full 24-hr news cycle after the ACL tear. xoopsx

[BisonTru]

........BISON FANS....WHOM DRAFTED CARSON WENTZ......AS DEY'RE QB........FO' FANTASY LEAGUES........................................... ..........AWK!

I drafted Wentz second overall in a dynasty rookie draft.

Do I win?

[Southern Bison]

I drafted Wentz second overall in a dynasty rookie draft.

Do I win?
I'm in a dynasty (with keepers from last year) as well but I snagged Osweiler in the 3rd round.

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[Rjones61]

Wasn't there a Jacksonville State fan who would pretend to be Foghorn?

[Bizon9]

I drafted Wentz second overall in a dynasty rookie draft.

Do I win?
Got him in the 12th round of our 12 team league. First time I've drafted a family member. Surreal to say the least.

[JSUSoutherner]

Wasn't there a Jacksonville State fan who would pretend to be Foghorn?
There's Mr. Chicken but he's a Delaware guy.

[AshevilleApp2]

I'm the only poster for my team on this site. That limits my nominations. xeyebrowx

Me as well. I win!

[OSBF]

Oh, and if you don't believe Jesus actually is an historical figure you might want to do some research. There is a lot of studies done, by very educated individuals who would disagree with you.

Yes, there was a man that lived aprox 2000 years ago.
His parents had sex, and the sperm penetrated the egg creating a zygote and he was conceived
He was (likely) raised in a very normal home for the time, with brothers and sisters
He grew into adulthood, (likely) married and had his own family
He said many very controversial (for the time) things and some people "followed" him
The Roman govt found him annoying and had him tried on trumped up charges and executed
Several historians wrote about his life

Yes, I have no doubt there really was a man that lived 2000 yrs ago that fits the description of "Jesus"

[OSBF]

San Diego fans from a few years ago.

Defined Delusional.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Yes, there was a man that lived aprox 2000 years ago.
His parents had sex, and the sperm penetrated the egg creating a zygote and he was conceived
He was (likely) raised in a very normal home for the time, with brothers and sisters
He grew into adulthood, (likely) married and had his own family
He said many very controversial (for the time) things and some people "followed" him
The Roman govt found him annoying and had him tried on trumped up charges and executed
Several historians wrote about his life

Yes, I have no doubt there really was a man that lived 2000 yrs ago that fits the description of "Jesus"


Nice story.

Did you think that up yourself?

[Catbooster]

Yes, there was a man that lived aprox 2000 years ago.
His parents had sex, and the sperm penetrated the egg creating a zygote and he was conceived
He was (likely) raised in a very normal home for the time, with brothers and sisters
He grew into adulthood, (likely) married and had his own family
He said many very controversial (for the time) things and some people "followed" him
The Roman govt found him annoying and had him tried on trumped up charges and executed
Several historians wrote about his life

Yes, I have no doubt there really was a man that lived 2000 yrs ago that fits the description of "Jesus"

I'm kind of surprised you're such a big Dave Ramsey fan given your attitude toward Christianity. I've no doubt that a large number of his listeners do not agree with his religious beliefs. However you seem to not only disagree but your comments are dismissive and condescending, and imply that you think those who believe are gullible and not overly smart.