2016 SoCon Coaches Preseason All-Conference Teams

[smallcollegefbfan]

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2016 Southern Conference Football: Preseason All-Conference Teams
Offensive Player of the Year: Detrez Newsome, Jr., RB, Western Carolina
Defensive Players of the Year: Keionta Davis, Sr., DL, Chattanooga



First Team Offense
QB Al Cobb, Jr., VMI
RB Derrick Craine, Sr., Chattanooga
RB Detrez Newsome, Jr., Western Carolina
OL Isaiah Pinson, Jr. The Citadel
OL Brett Niederreither, Sr., Mercer
OL Armando Bonheur, Sr., Samford
OL Corey Levin, Sr., Chattanooga
OL Jacob Revis, Jr., Chattanooga
(tie) OL Anton Wahrby, Sr., Wofford
TE Tyler Sexton, Sr., Western Carolina
WR Karel Hamilton, Sr., Samford
WR Aaron Sanders, Sr., VMI



First Team Defense
DL Joe Crochet, Sr., The Citadel
DL Ahmad Gooden, So., Samford
DL Keionta Davis, Sr., Chattanooga
DL Miles Brown, So., Wofford
LB Tevin Floyd, Sr., The Citadel
LB Nakevion Leslie, Sr., Chattanooga
LB Tyson Dickson, Sr., Western Carolina
(tie) LB Daniel Riddle, Jr., Western Carolina
DB Dee Delaney, Jr., The Citadel
DB Trey Robinson, Sr., Furman
DB Jamerson Blount, Sr., Samford
DB Lucas Webb, Jr., Chattanooga



First Team Specialists
PK Henrique Ribeiro, Sr., Chattanooga
P Ian Berryman, So., Western Carolina
RS Dane Forlines, Sr., VMI



Second Team Offense
QB Devlin Hodges, So., Samford
RB Tyler Renew, Sr., The Citadel
RB Lorenzo Long, Sr., Wofford
OL Ryan Bednar, Sr., The Citadel
OL Josh Cardiello, Jr., Chattanooga
OL Andrew Lewis, Sr., VMI
OL Nathan Dalton, So., Western Carolina
OL Dequan Miller, Sr., Wofford
TE Sam Walker, So., Mercer
WR Kelvin McKnight, So., Samford
WR Spearman Robinson, Sr., Western Carolina



Second Team Defense
DL Tosin Aguebor, Sr., Mercer
DL Isaiah Buehler, So., Mercer
DL Xavier Forrest, Jr., Samford
DL Vantrel McMillan, Sr., Chattanooga
LB Carl Rider, Sr., Furman
LB Ryan Francis, Jr., VMI
LB Dylan Weigel, So., ETSU
DB Cedric Nettles, Sr., Chattanooga
DB Fred Payne, Sr., Western Carolina
DB Malik Diggs, Sr., The Citadel
DB Trey Morgan, Sr., Western Carolina



Second Team Specialists
PK Logan Howard, So., Western Carolina
P Austin Barnard, Jr., Samford
RS Chandler Curtis, Jr., Mercer
NOTE: Coaches were not permitted to vote for their own players.

[smallcollegefbfan]

Here are the top snubs from what my list.

OL Kyle Weaver, Sr. The Citadel
OL Ross Demmel, Soph., Wofford
QB John Russ, Sr., Mercer
RB Tee Mitchell, Jr., Mercer
TE Duncan Fletcher, Furman, Sr.
WR Emmanuel Obajimi, Sr., Samford
WR Andrej Suttles, Sr., Furman
DL Mark Thomas, Jr., The Citadel
DL Isaiah Mack, Soph., Chattanooga
LB James Riley, Jr. The Citadel
DB Kailik Williams, Jr., The Citadel
RS Quinlan Washington, Soph., The Citadel

Anyone else I am missing?

[kdinva]

Here are the top snubs from what my list.

OL Kyle Weaver, Sr. The Citadel
OL Ross Demmel, Soph., Wofford
QB John Russ, Sr., Mercer
RB Tee Mitchell, Jr., Mercer
TE Duncan Fletcher, Furman, Sr.
WR Emmanuel Obajimi, Sr., Samford
WR Andrej Suttles, Sr., Furman
DL Joe Nelson, Sr., VMI
DL Mark Thomas, Jr., The Citadel
DL Isaiah Mack, Soph., Chattanooga
LB James Riley, Jr. The Citadel
DB Kailik Williams, Jr., The Citadel
P Matt Shiel, Jr., Mercer
RS Quinlan Washington, Soph., The Citadel

Anyone else I am missing?

Joe Nelson graduated in May..with a season of eligibility remaining.....

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thread already exists (SoCon media day)

[JSUSoutherner]

Here are the top snubs from what my list.

OL Kyle Weaver, Sr. The Citadel
OL Ross Demmel, Soph., Wofford
QB John Russ, Sr., Mercer
RB Tee Mitchell, Jr., Mercer
TE Duncan Fletcher, Furman, Sr.
WR Emmanuel Obajimi, Sr., Samford
WR Andrej Suttles, Sr., Furman
DL Joe Nelson, Sr., VMI
DL Mark Thomas, Jr., The Citadel
DL Isaiah Mack, Soph., Chattanooga
LB James Riley, Jr. The Citadel
DB Kailik Williams, Jr., The Citadel
P Matt Shiel, Jr., Mercer
RS Quinlan Washington, Soph., The Citadel

Anyone else I am missing?

Everyone on Chatty's roster that didn't make it, obviously. :D

[catamount man]

MAJOR props to Detrez Newsome! GO CATS!

[PaladinFan]

Here are the top snubs from what my list.

OL Kyle Weaver, Sr. The Citadel
OL Ross Demmel, Soph., Wofford
QB John Russ, Sr., Mercer
RB Tee Mitchell, Jr., Mercer
TE Duncan Fletcher, Furman, Sr.
WR Emmanuel Obajimi, Sr., Samford
WR Andrej Suttles, Sr., Furman
DL Joe Nelson, Sr., VMI
DL Mark Thomas, Jr., The Citadel
DL Isaiah Mack, Soph., Chattanooga
LB James Riley, Jr. The Citadel
DB Kailik Williams, Jr., The Citadel
P Matt Shiel, Jr., Mercer
RS Quinlan Washington, Soph., The Citadel

Anyone else I am missing?

Furman K Jon Croft Hollingsworth.

Led the SoCon in average kickoff distance. Was 3 of 5 from beyond 40, including a 55 yard game winner against UCF. Virtually automatic inside 40 (6 of 7)

Doesn't have the numbers of some of his competitors as Furman's offense was just awful last year and rarely gave him the chance to put up points.

[smallcollegefbfan]

Joe Nelson graduated in May..with a season of eligibility remaining.....

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thread already exists (SoCon media day)

My bad, did not see that thread. I see he is off the roster. I'll go ahead and remove him.

[smallcollegefbfan]

Furman K Jon Croft Hollingsworth.

Led the SoCon in average kickoff distance. Was 3 of 5 from beyond 40, including a 55 yard game winner against UCF. Virtually automatic inside 40 (6 of 7)

Doesn't have the numbers of some of his competitors as Furman's offense was just awful last year and rarely gave him the chance to put up points.

Your offense definitely did not help that much at all. Do you think it was a combination of things or was the OL pretty much the reason why in your mind?

[PaladinFan]

Your offense definitely did not help that much at all. Do you think it was a combination of things or was the OL pretty much the reason why in your mind?

From a fan's perspective, offensive line is hard to really evaluate. I do think that the offensive line was a bit of a disarray when Fowler arrived at Furman. You see the last few seasons he has recruited the heck out of that position group.

My personal feeling is that Dakota Dozier masked a lot of problems. Easy to make your offensive line look good when your LT can collapse the defense nearly every play. After Dozier left, massive holes were exploited.

Just as an example, this was Triston Luke's game winning touchdown run against South Carolina State (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l68oWFEZiZQ).

You'll notice the RG (an all conference selection) pulls to his left and blocks precisely nobody. Now, I do not know where the play is designed to go (remember, SCSU had a monster DT that was a handful for anyone). Clearly, though, the play is designed to go inside and someone (either LG or RG) is supposed to be blocking the OLB #5. Nobody does. Luke makes an impressive athletic play seeing no hole to the inside, beats #5 (who was unblocked and darn near made the tackle for a loss) and scores the game winning touchdown.

That's just an example of the problems. Poor blocking led to a Herculean effort by our running back in a close game. While that play ended well for Furman, it could have (and many did) end disastrously. Occasionally the offensive line would put it together (second half against Samford), and you'd really see what the team is capable of.

Lot of new faces on the OL this year including some highly regarded recruits. If Furman is going to do anything, they need a heckuva lot better production out of that group.

[Cat-in-GA]

Here are the top snubs from what my list.

OL Kyle Weaver, Sr. The Citadel
OL Ross Demmel, Soph., Wofford
QB John Russ, Sr., Mercer
RB Tee Mitchell, Jr., Mercer
TE Duncan Fletcher, Furman, Sr.
WR Emmanuel Obajimi, Sr., Samford
WR Andrej Suttles, Sr., Furman
DL Mark Thomas, Jr., The Citadel
DL Isaiah Mack, Soph., Chattanooga
LB James Riley, Jr. The Citadel
DB Kailik Williams, Jr., The Citadel
P Matt Shiel, Jr., Mercer
RS Quinlan Washington, Soph., The Citadel

Anyone else I am missing?

Matt Shiel is not at Mercer anymore. It appears he is not playing anywhere.

[FUBeAR]

Matt Shiel is not at Mercer anymore. It appears he is not playing anywhere.

Fair dinkum mate. I believe his US walkabout has ended and he has returned to the outback.

[smallcollegefbfan]

Matt Shiel is not at Mercer anymore. It appears he is not playing anywhere.

I don't see him on the roster so I just removed him.

[smallcollegefbfan]

I went ahead and put together my preseason All-SoCon teams. Anyone missing that you guys think will definitely be All-SoCon this year?


2016 PRESEASON ALL-SOCON TEAMS
PRESEASON OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR: RB Derrick Craine, Sr., Chattanooga
PRESEASON DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR: DL Keionta Davis, Sr., Chattanooga

FIRST TEAM OFFENSE
QB Al Cobb, Jr., VMI
RB Derrick Craine, Sr., Chattanooga
RB Detrez Newsome, Jr., Western Carolina
OL Corey Levin, Sr., Chattanooga
OL Armando Bonheur, Sr., Samford
OL Anton Wahrby, Sr., Wofford
OL Bret Niederreither, Sr., Mercer
OL Kyle Weaver, Sr. The Citadel
TE Tyler Sexton, Sr., Western Carolina
WR Aaron Sanders, Sr., VMI
WR Karel Hamilton, Sr., Samford

FIRST TEAM DEFENSE
DL Keionta Davis, Sr., Chattanooga
DL Ahmad Gooden, Soph., Samford
DL Miles Brown, Soph., Wofford
DL Joe Crochet, Sr., The Citadel
LB Daniel Riddle, Jr., Western Carolina
LB Nakevion Leslie, Sr., Chattanooga
LB Tevin Floyd, Sr., The Citadel
LB Tyson Dickson, Sr., Western Carolina
DB Dee Delaney, Jr., The Citadel
DB Trey Robinson, Sr., Furman
DB Jamerson Blount, Sr., Samford
DB Lucas Webb, Jr., Chattanooga

FIRST TEAM SPECIALISTS
PK Henrique Ribeiro, Sr., Chattanooga
P Ian Berryman, Soph., Western Carolina
RS Dane Forlines, Sr., VMI

SECOND TEAM OFFENSE
QB John Russ, Sr., Mercer
RB Lorenzo Long, Sr., Wofford
RB Tee Mitchell, Jr., Mercer
OL Kevin Revis, Jr., Chattanooga
OL Isaiah Pinson, Jr. The Citadel
OL Dequan Miller, Sr., Wofford
OL Ross Demmel, Soph., Wofford
OL Nathan Dalton, Soph., Western Carolina
TE Duncan Fletcher, Furman, Sr.
WR Emmanuel Obajimi, Sr., Samford
WR Andrej Suttles, Sr., Furman

SECOND TEAM DEFENSE
DL Mark Thomas, Jr., The Citadel
DL Tosin Aguebor, Sr., Mercer
DL Isaiah Mack, Soph., Chattanooga
DL Xavier Forrest, Samford, Jr.
LB Dylan Weigel, ETSU, Soph.
LB Ryan Francis, Jr., VMI
LB James Riley, Jr. The Citadel
LB Carl Rider, Sr., Furman
DB Malik Diggs, the Citadel, Sr.
DB Cedric Nettles, Sr., Chattanooga
DB Trey Morgan, Sr., Western Carolina
DB Kailik Williams, Jr., The Citadel

SECOND TEAM SPECIALISTS
PK Logan Howard, Western Carolina, Soph.
P Austin Barnard, Samford, Jr.
RS Quinlan Washington, Soph., The Citadel

THIRD TEAM OFFENSE
QB Devlin Hodges, Samford, Soph.
RB Tyler Renew, The Citadel, Sr.
RB Cam Jackson, The Citadel, Jr.
OL Andrew Lewis, VMI, Sr.
OL Josh Cardiello, Chattanooga, Jr.
OL Ryan Bednar, The Citadel, Sr.
OL Thomas Marchman, Mercer, Soph.
OL Hunter Townson, Chattanooga, Jr.
TE Sam Walker, Mercer, Soph.
WR Kevlin McKnight, Samford, Soph.
WR Spearman Robinson, Western Carolina, Sr.

SECOND TEAM DEFENSE
DL Brad Minter, Sr., Furman
DL Isaiah Buehler, Mercer, Soph.
DL Vantrel McMillan, Chattanooga, Sr.
DL Chris Boudreaux, Wofford, Sr.
LB Tripp Patterson, Mercer, Sr.
LB Allan Cratsenberg, VMI, Jr.
LB John Patterson, Wofford, Jr.
LB Austin Gatewood, ETSU, Soph.
DB Dee Virgin, Sr., Chattanooga
DB Fred Payne, Western Carolina, Sr.
DB Jaleel Green, Wofford, Sr.
DB Zach Jackson, Mercer, Sr.

SECOND TEAM SPECIALISTS
PK Jagger Lieb, Mercer, Jr.
P Henrique Ribeiro, Sr., Chattanooga
RS Chandler Curtis, Mercer, Jr.

[Toby]

I went ahead and put together my preseason All-SoCon teams. Anyone missing that you guys think will definitely be All-SoCon this year?


2016 PRESEASON ALL-SOCON TEAMS
PRESEASON OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR: RB Derrick Craine, Sr., Chattanooga
PRESEASON DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR: DL Keionta Davis, Sr., Chattanooga

FIRST TEAM OFFENSE
QB Al Cobb, Jr., VMI
RB Derrick Craine, Sr., Chattanooga
RB Detrez Newsome, Jr., Western Carolina
OL Corey Levin, Sr., Chattanooga
OL Armando Bonheur, Sr., Samford
OL Anton Wahrby, Sr., Wofford
OL Bret Niederreither, Sr., Mercer
OL Kyle Weaver, Sr. The Citadel
TE Tyler Sexton, Sr., Western Carolina
WR Aaron Sanders, Sr., VMI
WR Karel Hamilton, Sr., Samford

FIRST TEAM DEFENSE
DL Keionta Davis, Sr., Chattanooga
DL Ahmad Gooden, Soph., Samford
DL Miles Brown, Soph., Wofford
DL Joe Crochet, Sr., The Citadel
LB Daniel Riddle, Jr., Western Carolina
LB Nakevion Leslie, Sr., Chattanooga
LB Tevin Floyd, Sr., The Citadel
LB Tyson Dickson, Sr., Western Carolina
DB Dee Delaney, Jr., The Citadel
DB Trey Robinson, Sr., Furman
DB Jamerson Blount, Sr., Samford
DB Lucas Webb, Jr., Chattanooga

FIRST TEAM SPECIALISTS
PK Henrique Ribeiro, Sr., Chattanooga
P Ian Berryman, Soph., Western Carolina
RS Dane Forlines, Sr., VMI

SECOND TEAM OFFENSE
QB John Russ, Sr., Mercer
RB Lorenzo Long, Sr., Wofford
RB Tee Mitchell, Jr., Mercer
OL Kevin Revis, Jr., Chattanooga
OL Isaiah Pinson, Jr. The Citadel
OL Dequan Miller, Sr., Wofford
OL Ross Demmel, Soph., Wofford
OL Nathan Dalton, Soph., Western Carolina
TE Duncan Fletcher, Furman, Sr.
WR Emmanuel Obajimi, Sr., Samford
WR Andrej Suttles, Sr., Furman

SECOND TEAM DEFENSE
DL Mark Thomas, Jr., The Citadel
DL Tosin Aguebor, Sr., Mercer
DL Isaiah Mack, Soph., Chattanooga
DL Xavier Forrest, Samford, Jr.
LB Dylan Weigel, ETSU, Soph.
LB Ryan Francis, Jr., VMI
LB James Riley, Jr. The Citadel
LB Carl Rider, Sr., Furman
DB Malik Diggs, the Citadel, Sr.
DB Cedric Nettles, Sr., Chattanooga
DB Trey Morgan, Sr., Western Carolina
DB Kailik Williams, Jr., The Citadel

SECOND TEAM SPECIALISTS
PK Logan Howard, Western Carolina, Soph.
P Austin Barnard, Samford, Jr.
RS Quinlan Washington, Soph., The Citadel

THIRD TEAM OFFENSE
QB Devlin Hodges, Samford, Soph.
RB Tyler Renew, The Citadel, Sr.
RB Cam Jackson, The Citadel, Jr.
OL Andrew Lewis, VMI, Sr.
OL Josh Cardiello, Chattanooga, Jr.
OL Ryan Bednar, The Citadel, Sr.
OL Thomas Marchman, Mercer, Soph.
OL Hunter Townson, Chattanooga, Jr.
TE Sam Walker, Mercer, Soph.
WR Kevlin McKnight, Samford, Soph.
WR Spearman Robinson, Western Carolina, Sr.

SECOND TEAM DEFENSE
DL Brad Minter, Sr., Furman
DL Isaiah Buehler, Mercer, Soph.
DL Vantrel McMillan, Chattanooga, Sr.
DL Chris Boudreaux, Wofford, Sr.
LB Tripp Patterson, Mercer, Sr.
LB Allan Cratsenberg, VMI, Jr.
LB John Patterson, Wofford, Jr.
LB Austin Gatewood, ETSU, Soph.
DB Dee Virgin, Sr., Chattanooga
DB Fred Payne, Western Carolina, Sr.
DB Jaleel Green, Wofford, Sr.
DB Zach Jackson, Mercer, Sr.

SECOND TEAM SPECIALISTS
PK Jagger Lieb, Mercer, Jr.
P Henrique Ribeiro, Sr., Chattanooga
RS Chandler Curtis, Mercer, Jr.


A couple of Mercer players missing who have earned All SoCon honors in the past include Alex Lakes, RB and Robert Brown, TE. Both played injured last year and are back healthy. A healthy Lakes was SoCon rushing leader in 2014 as a Freshman.

A healthy Chandler Curtis will be competing for SoCon honors at WR.

Also Austin Barrett, DL has received previous SoCon recognition and a player to watch.

[smallcollegefbfan]

A couple of Mercer players missing who have earned All SoCon honors in the past include Alex Lakes, RB and Robert Brown, TE. Both played injured last year and are back healthy. A healthy Lakes was SoCon rushing leader in 2014 as a Freshman.

A healthy Chandler Curtis will be competing for SoCon honors at WR.

Also Austin Barrett, DL has received previous SoCon recognition and a player to watch.

When the coaches did not pick Brown I figured maybe he was not fully healthy and went away from him. I almost put Lakes. There are a lot of good WRs. Had it been thin I would have gone ahead and put Curtis.

[Toby]

When the coaches did not pick Brown I figured maybe he was not fully healthy and went away from him. I almost put Lakes. There are a lot of good WRs. Had it been thin I would have gone ahead and put Curtis.

Lakes had 3 broken ribs and a punctured lung in game 3 last year and Brown played through a fractured toe after missing 2 games. Mercer arguably has 2 of the best 4 TEs and mostly run from a 2 TE set (TE plays H back).

[SU DOG]

I didn't think Dee Virgin was on the Mocs roster anymore. Also did the Third Team Defense typo to Second Team Defense? Omari Williams CB for Samford might not belong on there right now, but just watch for him this season.

[JSUSoutherner]

I didn't think Dee Virgin was on the Mocs roster anymore. Also did the Third Team Defense typo to Second Team Defense? Omari Williams CB for Samford might not belong on there right now, but just watch for him this season.
Dee Virgin was indeed kicked off the team.

[PaladinFan]

When was the last time a running back was conference player of the year? It may have been recently - I don't remember.

If I had to guess, I'd give the preseason OPTOY to Hodges or Cobb. Both of those guys are QBs and run in offense where they are going to put up eye popping numbers.

[FUBeAR]

When was the last time a running back was conference player of the year? It may have been recently - I don't remember.

If I had to guess, I'd give the preseason OPTOY to Hodges or Cobb. Both of those guys are QBs and run in offense where they are going to put up eye popping numbers.

Hmmm...you've said Preseason honors are primarily based on prior year's numbers & you propose Hodges as a viable Preseason OPOY, yet Mercer's QB, John Russ, put up about the same number of total yds, had 2x TD's responsible, and threw 1/2 as many INT's. No knock on Hodges - a really, really good player, who I would say salvaged Sammy's season in 2015 & a primary reason why I think Sammy will be 1 of the 4 SoCon Teams in the Playoffs this season. I'm not necessarily saying Russ would be my PS OPOY either. I just don't get how you can overlook him within the context of your suggestion/proposal. Perhaps, you are now postulating that preseason honors should be based on 'projections.' If that's the case, then I guess you would agree that Mercer's RB, Alex Lakes & WR/RS Chandler Curtis should merit much higher consideration than they have been given this preseason. Yes?

[Milktruck74]

Dee Virgin was indeed kicked off the team.

Probably going to finish his career as a Gamecock..... I really tried to restrain, but I couldn't help myself. I probably started a war, haha.

[JSUSoutherner]

Probably going to finish his career as a Gamecock..... I really tried to restrain, but I couldn't help myself. I probably started a war, haha.
Nah. We don't take losers. xthumbsupx


But if he went after interceptions the same way he went after iPads he would be a pretty good player for us. :D

[PaladinFan]

Hmmm...you've said Preseason honors are primarily based on prior year's numbers & you propose Hodges as a viable Preseason OPOY, yet Mercer's QB, John Russ, put up about the same number of total yds, had 2x TD's responsible, and threw 1/2 as many INT's. No knock on Hodges - a really, really good player, who I would say salvaged Sammy's season in 2015 & a primary reason why I think Sammy will be 1 of the 4 SoCon Teams in the Playoffs this season. I'm not necessarily saying Russ would be my PS OPOY either. I just don't get how you can overlook him within the context of your suggestion/proposal. Perhaps, you are now postulating that preseason honors should be based on 'projections.' If that's the case, then I guess you would agree that Mercer's RB, Alex Lakes & WR/RS Chandler Curtis should merit much higher consideration than they have been given this preseason. Yes?

You are confusing MY opinion with the COACH's poll.

All of this is entirely subjective. I have said that the best justification for some player over another is their 2015 production. That does not mean it is my entirely subjective criteria.

If you want to put Lakes as the top running back in your own subjective opinion poll, go ahead. He's a good running back.

[dixiechs]

Hmmm...you've said Preseason honors are primarily based on prior year's numbers & you propose Hodges as a viable Preseason OPOY, yet Mercer's QB, John Russ, put up about the same number of total yds, had 2x TD's responsible, and threw 1/2 as many INT's. No knock on Hodges - a really, really good player, who I would say salvaged Sammy's season in 2015 & a primary reason why I think Sammy will be 1 of the 4 SoCon Teams in the Playoffs this season. I'm not necessarily saying Russ would be my PS OPOY either. I just don't get how you can overlook him within the context of your suggestion/proposal. Perhaps, you are now postulating that preseason honors should be based on 'projections.' If that's the case, then I guess you would agree that Mercer's RB, Alex Lakes & WR/RS Chandler Curtis should merit much higher consideration than they have been given this preseason. Yes?


Hodges and Russ may have had similar total yards, and Russ may have had more TD's and less int''s..but he also had a Full season of starts, not just a half, and also several of Hodges int's came in early season games where he was put in later, down in score, and tried to push to make things happen...just sayin'.........

[FUBeAR]

Hodges and Russ may have had similar total yards, and Russ may have had more TD's and less int''s..but he also had a Full season of starts, not just a half, and also several of Hodges int's came in early season games where he was put in later, down in score, and tried to push to make things happen...just sayin'.........

Yep, all of that is certainly true - which is highly similar to the 'argument' that one can make for Alex Lakes, 1st Team All-SoCon RB in 2014, whose stats were a bit down in 2015 because of a significant injury incurred in Game 3, but he is back to 100% for 2016.

Just would like to see some consistency in the way these things are selected & the way people think about them. Either base the selections on most recent year's performance/stats OR base them upon projected performance in the upcoming season based upon a more broadly informed set of criteria, such as you laid out for Hodges.

Russ has the performance history & stats if the former was used to select the PS All-SoCon Team & Lakes should have been selected if it's the latter. In no event, should BOTH of them been omitted. I guess they'll just have to 'prove it' on the field in 2016...again.

[PaladinFan]

Yep, all of that is certainly true - which is highly similar to the 'argument' that one can make for Alex Lakes, 1st Team All-SoCon RB in 2014, whose stats were a bit down in 2015 because of a significant injury incurred in Game 3, but he is back to 100% for 2016.

Just would like to see some consistency in the way these things are selected & the way people think about them. Either base the selections on most recent year's performance/stats OR base them upon projected performance in the upcoming season based upon a more broadly informed set of criteria, such as you laid out for Hodges.

Russ has the performance history & stats if the former was used to select the PS All-SoCon Team & Lakes should have been selected if it's the latter. In no event, should BOTH of them been omitted. I guess they'll just have to 'prove it' on the field in 2016...again.

I don't disagree with you. For the same reason, I think Duncan Fletcher is a significant omission at TE, as he put up pretty stellar numbers in 2014 but was slowed by injury in 2015.

At the end of the day, you ask 15 people their opinion, you'll get 15 different answers.

[Catamount87]

...
Just would like to see some consistency in the way these things are selected & the way people think about them.

Oh there's consistency in SoCon selections just not the type of consistency any of us reasonable people would expect. :-)

[FUBeAR]

Oh there's consistency in SoCon selections just not the type of consistency any of us reasonable people would expect. :-)


LOL - I guess so - they were consistent in naming Return Specialists to the Preseason All-SoCon Team in the past 2 years who had a COMBINED total of 5 kickoff AND punt returns for 38 yards and 0 TD's during the seasons before their selection. Well, at least they didn't put a Long Snapping Specialist in as an All SoCon Offensive Lineman this year as they did in 2015!

BTW, though, if I was a Catamount Fan, I wouldn't be complaining - graduate 1/2 of the starters and still have 10 selected to the Preseason All-SoCon Team. That's Ohio State and Alabama kinda talent respect right there! Looks like a dynasty is about to kick-off up in Cullowhee!!

[SU DOG]

LOL - I guess so - they were consistent in naming Return Specialists to the Preseason All-SoCon Team in the past 2 years who had a COMBINED total of 5 kickoff AND punt returns for 38 yards and 0 TD's during the seasons before their selection. Well, at least they didn't put a Long Snapping Specialist in as an All SoCon Offensive Lineman this year as they did in 2015!

BTW, though, if I was a Catamount Fan, I wouldn't be complaining - graduate 1/2 of the starters and still have 10 selected to the Preseason All-SoCon Team. That's Ohio State and Alabama kinda talent respect right there! Looks like a dynasty is about to kick-off up in Cullowhee!!

If I remember correctly, that LS was a Samford player. Great career, and he will be missed this year. I have to agree, however, that it was a most surprising choice.

[walliver]

A coaches pre-season all-star team is a somewhat strange idea. Right now, the coaches are trying to figure out who the stars on their own teams are and mostly basing their choices on which players looked best playing against their team.

Do the coaches even cast votes, or do they delegate them to the AD's, SID's or H2O specialists.

[Cat-in-GA]

A coaches pre-season all-star team is a somewhat strange idea. Right now, the coaches are trying to figure out who the stars on their own teams are and mostly basing their choices on which players looked best playing against their team.

Do the coaches even cast votes, or do they delegate them to the AD's, SID's or H2O specialists.

I like the coaches teams though because they can''t vote for their own players. Media teams are just a compilation of a bunch of homer picks or guys looking at stat sheets and not seeing who had an impact on the field.