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ming01
January 10th, 2016, 11:31 AM
How many starters does your team return next season? What key positions?

Rollbird5
January 10th, 2016, 11:40 AM
ISU Redbirds: On offense we lose Tre and Marshaun but return everyone else. On Defense we lose DE's Corwin and Perkins, linebackers Meehan and Donnelly, cornerback Josh Burch. Don't lose a ton numbers wise but the guys we do lose were the key playmakers. Have a lot of talent ready for their turn to step up, think we will go 8-3 or 7-4 and make the playoffs next year would be my prediction.

Go Lehigh TU owl
January 10th, 2016, 12:00 PM
Lehigh returns 14/22 starters (assuming Knott's redshirt is granted) but return an absurd amount of their two-deep, 39/48 if my count was right. There's a couple of other guys that could potentially come back for a 5th year as well. Every class will be scholarship now. Bragalone and Pelletier form a great WR/RB duo. The skill positions as a whole are very talented. The OL figures to be a strength again as well. Shafnisky has to be able to put it all together. He'll be a 3 year starter so there's no excuses. His weakness has always been the inability to drive the ball down the field. He had shoulder surgery following the 2013 season which might have played a role some last year. If he develop a consistent long ball than the 2016 offense should be the best since 2011 when Lum finished second for the Payton Award.

It all comes down to defense. It hit an all time low last year. The complete dumpster fire of a defense was the main reason Lehigh was sitting home come playoff time. If it can improve in 2016 the season has great potential if it doesn't the locals will be out with pitchforks.

Lehigh could be fringe Top 25 team to start the year imo. I think they'll be picked 2nd in the league behind Colgate to start the year by most media outlets. Where it ends up will be come down to injuries, defense and Shafnisky's ability to put a final imprint on his career. The expectation is/should be a return to national relevance and a playoff appearance....

ST_Lawson
January 10th, 2016, 12:48 PM
Of our starters:
Offense - we lose RB Nikko Watson, TE Larry Harris, and OG Ryan Ricketts
Defense - we lost DT Kris Harley, DT Gavin Ricketts, and DE Eddy Holtschlag (he was the 3rd of 3 Holtschlag brothers who played for Western...2016 will be the first season since 2008 without a Holtschlag on the roster)
Special Teams - nobody
We did lose some other seniors, but those were the only ones who were starting. Full review of our seniors from this last year over at Leatherneck Nation: http://www.leathernecknation.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=742

So, we'll need to reload on the D-line and we're hoping one (or a combination of 2) of the RBs we have (pretty deep RB roster, actually) can step up and take over at least some of what Watson was able to do.

Otherwise, the biggest question mark is going to be how the new coaching staff works with the existing players and any new incoming players they're able to bring in. I'm not too worried about the offense, but defense could be an issue.

CID1990
January 10th, 2016, 01:01 PM
We lose a couple key defensive players and a couple OL.

Judging from the performances of our backups this year we will be better next season.


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Gangtackle11
January 10th, 2016, 01:10 PM
Villanova lose starters
OFFENSE:
QB: John Robertson (hurt in game 4)
RB: Gary Underwood
WR: Kevin Gulyas
OL: Kyle Wallace
TE: Doug Turrell (split time w/ returning TEs)

DEFENSE:
DE: Reggie Paris
LB: Don Cherry
S: Cam McCurry, Matt McCann

Back from RS:
'14 starting OT 6'8" 315 Brad Seaton

The loss of Robertson allowed QB Zach Bednarcyzk to learn trial under fire. He's talented & he made some bad decisions that cost probable wins at Towson & JMU.

RBs need a workhorse to emerge, but more likely a committee of Gudzak, Forbes, J.White.

Defense was strong suit last season & no reason not to expect more of the same in '16.

Ed Shockley will most likely step in for Cherry. He has played well in back up role and will be a junior. All-CAA LB Austin Calitro & starter Corey Majors return for their RS senior seasons on the outside. Throw in 2 highly regarded RS frosh Drew Wiley & Anthony Malaguti and this unit is in good shape to absorb the loss of Cherry.

The corners both have been All-CAA in the last 2 seasons. Malik Reeves last year & Jason Ceneus in '14.

The graduation of hard hitting Cam McCurry at the rover safety will be hard to fill, but there is 3-4 candidates.

I expect the kicking game that has been down right awful will get better now that Gerard Smith has appeared to anchor down the spot. Punter John Hinchen is solid.

Schedule misses UNH (4th year in a row), Stony Brook, and W&M.

OOC is Pittsburgh, Lehigh & Lafayette.

I expect Villanova to win 7-9 games and return to the FCS playoffs. 2016 may very well be Coach Talley's last. Send him out with a good season if it is.

knucklehead
January 10th, 2016, 02:29 PM
For Liberty, the basics...A lot returning on D, and a lot of keys leaving on O. QB Woodrum, WR Peterson, RB Abnar and Rice, OL Burgess and Sommer all gone. On D the key losses are DL Uzowihe, and LB O'Grady. Lot's of talent left but the O will be very young. D should be solid to very good.

JSUSoutherner
January 10th, 2016, 02:52 PM
From the 2015 main lineup
Possible 2016 Starters for JSU:

Offense:
QB- Eli Jenkins
RB- Josh Clemons (possibly)
LT-Justin Lea
LG-Tyler Swindle
C- Casey Dunn
RT- Dylan Cline
OT- Nick Johnson
WR- Josh Barge


Defense-
NT- Randy Robinson
DE- Darius Jackson
DT- Desmond Owino
LB- Joel McCandless
LB- Quan Stoudemire
DE- LaMichael Fanning (possibly)
CB- Reggie Hall
CB- Jaylen Hill
FS- Siran Neal
SS- Ra'Shad Green


PK- Conner Rouleou




This is just my guess. Subject to change of course. I feel REALLY good about next year.

ming01
January 10th, 2016, 02:55 PM
From the 2015 main lineup
Possible 2016 Starters for JSU:

Offense:
QB- Eli Jenkins
RB- Josh Clemons (possibly)
LT-Justin Lea
LG-Tyler Swindle
C- Casey Dunn
RT- Dylan Cline
OT- Nick Johnson
WR- Josh Barge


Defense-
NT- Randy Robinson
DE- Darius Jackson
DT- Desmond Owino
LB- Joel McCandless
LB- Quan Stoudemire
DE- LaMichael Fanning (possibly)
CB- Reggie Hall
CB- Jaylen Hill
FS- Siran Neal
SS- Ra'Shad Green


PK- Conner Rouleou




This is just my guess. Subject to change of course. I feel REALLY good about next year.

I thought you had a ton of seniors starting?

JSUSoutherner
January 10th, 2016, 03:02 PM
I thought you had a ton of seniors starting?
Those are from our two deep lineup. After you peel back the first layer of seniors we are very very young. The reason I went with the two deep lineup is because we rotated a LOT. Most of our second stringers saw just as much action as the starters.

centennial
January 10th, 2016, 03:05 PM
From the 2015 main lineup
Possible 2016 Starters for JSU:

Offense:
QB- Eli Jenkins
RB- Josh Clemons (possibly)
LT-Justin Lea
LG-Tyler Swindle
C- Casey Dunn
RT- Dylan Cline
OT- Nick Johnson
WR- Josh Barge


Defense-
NT- Randy Robinson
DE- Darius Jackson
DT- Desmond Owino
LB- Joel McCandless
LB- Quan Stoudemire
DE- LaMichael Fanning (possibly)
CB- Reggie Hall
CB- Jaylen Hill
FS- Siran Neal
SS- Ra'Shad Green


PK- Conner Rouleou




This is just my guess. Subject to change of course. I feel REALLY good about next year.
Can Eli graduate? I've seen Auburn fans talking about taking him.

JSUSoutherner
January 10th, 2016, 03:08 PM
Can Eli graduate? I've seen Auburn fans talking about taking him.
Eli is a confirmed returner for JSU. He was asked about it yesterday by the media. I'll post the link later if you want to see. Most of that rumor was a desperate Barner fantasy to begin with.

Twentysix
January 10th, 2016, 03:12 PM
NDSU returns about half of the starters. I would assume they will also be the favorite to win it all in 2016.

JSUSoutherner
January 10th, 2016, 03:12 PM
NDSU returns about half of the starters. I would assume they will also be the favorite to win it all in 2016.
No doubt.

centennial
January 10th, 2016, 03:18 PM
Eli is a confirmed returner for JSU. He was asked about it yesterday by the media. I'll post the link later if you want to see. Most of that rumor was a desperate Barner fantasy to begin with.
Hope you are right, but playing in the SEC can help if he wants a chance at the next level. The game vs NDSU hurt him in that regard.

BigHouseClosedEnd
January 10th, 2016, 03:24 PM
We return 7 starters on O, 9 on D and both specialists. The Spiders should be loaded for next year.

NDB
January 10th, 2016, 03:24 PM
?

Eli doesn't have what it takes to play in the cfl.

JSUSoutherner
January 10th, 2016, 03:29 PM
?

Eli doesn't have what it takes to play in the cfl.
With another year to develop I have a feeling he has a pretty good chance at the NFL.

Twentysix
January 10th, 2016, 03:38 PM
With another year to develop I have a feeling he has a pretty good chance at the NFL.

Not even close.

Gangtackle11
January 10th, 2016, 03:44 PM
2016 Villanova projected starters (from 2 deep chart)

QB: Zach Bednarczyk RSo. *
RB: Matt Gudzak Jr.
Slot: Jarret McClenton So. *
WR: Alex Padovani RSo. *
WR: Lincoln Collins RJr.
TE: Ryan Morris RSr.
OT:Brad Seaton RSr. 6-8 315
OG: Louie Csazsar So. 6-3 305
C: Bubba Green RSr. 6-2 300 *
OG: Nico DeAngelo RSr. 6-3 295 *
OT: Ethan Greenidge So. 6-4 330 *
K: Gerard Smith So.

Defense:
DE: Tanoh Kpassanon RSr. 6-7 285 *
NT: Bryan White So. 6-1 290
DE: Bryan Osei RSr. 6-2 250
OLB: Corey Majors RSr. 6-0 250 *
MLB: Ed Shockley Jr. 5-11 225
OLB: Austin Calitro RSr. 6-0 235 *
S: Wes Smith Jr. 5-9 180 *
S: Rob Rolle Jr. 6-0 190
FS: Rashaan Stewart Jr. 6-1 195 *
CB: Malik Reaves Jr. 6-0 200 *
CB: Jason Ceneus Sr. 5-9 170 *
P: John Hinchen Sr.

*returning starters

Returning All- CAA:
1st Team:
Tanoh Kpassanon DE
2nd Team:
Malik Reaves CB
3rd Team:
Austin Calitro LB
Jason Ceneus CB

CAA Co-Offensive Rookie:
Zach Bednarczyk

centennial
January 10th, 2016, 03:48 PM
With another year to develop I have a feeling he has a pretty good chance at the NFL.
My feeling is that he is at best a camp arm or a CFL backup. Not saying that he isn't a great FCS QB. That is why it pays for him to take a risk ala Vernon Adams. I was sure Adams had no chance at the NFL, now with Oregon on his resume there is chance he could go on the 3rd day.

Twentysix
January 10th, 2016, 03:49 PM
My feeling is that he is at best a camp arm or a CFL backup. Not saying that he isn't a great FCS QB. That is why it pays for him to take a risk ala Vernon Adams. I was sure Adams had no chance at the NFL, now with Oregon on his resume there is chance he could go on the 3rd day.

I think he needs serious improvement, that probably won't happen, to reach CFL levels... and I stayed at a holiday inn express so I'm basically an expert.

BisonTru
January 10th, 2016, 03:50 PM
With another year to develop I have a feeling he has a pretty good chance at the NFL.

Sorry I don't see it not as a QB.


We return 7 starters on O, 9 on D and both specialists. The Spiders should be loaded for next year.

Now the Spiders QB should get some NFL looks in a couple seasons.

Twentysix
January 10th, 2016, 03:50 PM
Sorry I don't see it not as a QB.



Now the Spiders QB should get some NFL looks in a couple seasons.

With more development Montana's QB might get looks too.

centennial
January 10th, 2016, 03:53 PM
I think he needs serious improvement, that probably won't happen, to reach CFL levels... and I stayed at a holiday inn express so I'm basically an expert.
He will need to shore up some things but the NDSU game is not the end all of his career. I have seen other JSU games, and I think he has an outside chance. Keep in mind our former one of the best in FCS QB Brock Jensen is #4 QB for the Ottawa Redblacks.

Twentysix
January 10th, 2016, 03:57 PM
He will need to shore up some things but the NDSU game is not the end all of his career. I have seen other JSU games, and I think he has an outside chance. Keep in mind our former one of the best in FCS QB Brock Jensen is #4 QB for the Ottawa Redblacks.

The NDSU game is one of the only times that he faced a real defense though, which is pretty significant for evaluating a QB.

Jensen was a way better prospect in his graduation year than Jenkins will be in his graduation year... Jensen also made the dolphins (not final roster) as a FA before ending up in Canada.

Maybe Jenkins could be a WR or RB? That has worked out for a few other FCS qb's (McKinnon, Edwards...) I don't know if Jenkins has what it takes for a different position though.

JSUSoutherner
January 10th, 2016, 04:01 PM
The NDSU game is one of the only times that he faced a real defense though, which is pretty significant for evaluating a QB.

Jensen was a way better prospect in his graduation year than Jenkins will be in his graduation year... Jensen also made the dolphins (not final roster) as a FA before ending up in Canada.

Maybe Jenkins could be a WR or RB? That has worked out for a few other FCS qb's (McKinnon, Edwards...) I don't know if Jenkins has what it takes for a different position though.
I think he would make a fantastic receiver. Fast. Tall. Great hands.

Side note: I just read an unconfirmed source stating that we are bringing in several huge weapons for next year. Will be interesting to see how it plays out but one of the guys on the list would probably be one of the biggest FCS pickups of the year.

It also said that Fanning would be returning.

Twentysix
January 10th, 2016, 04:01 PM
I think he would make a fantastic receiver. Fast. Tall. Great hands.

Yeah, I literally mean that "I don't know" not that he can't do it. Might be his most likely path to the NFL, but again, I personally haven't seen him in that capacity.

FUBeAR
January 10th, 2016, 04:15 PM
The only expected 2-Deep O&D losses for Mercer are 2 former All SoCon players: OG Wilson Heres, who missed 6 games in 2015 with a broken foot & CB Alex Avant, who missed several games early and was slowed a good bit of the 2015 season with a hamstring injury. So, their back-ups logged plenty of minutes in 2015. Also losing a 3 year starting Long Snapper, JG Abernathy.

The other 42 players on the O&D 2-deep plus all other specialists are expected to return and be augmented by 17 Redshirt Freshman, a Navy transfer RB, a JUCO transfer WR, and the rest of the 2016 Recruiting Class that does not Redshirt.

2016 will be Mercer's 1st season with a full complement of 63 scholarships and the Bears will face their 1st FBS opponent when they play @ Georgia Tech on Sept 10.

Grizzlies82
January 10th, 2016, 04:16 PM
Keep in mind our former one of the best in FCS QB Brock Jensen is #4 QB for the Ottawa Redblacks.

Jensen had an exceptional career at NDSU as the QB but I never saw him as an exceptional QB. The guy was essentially a hand off QB. He could throw a decent pass on occasion but no fear of him doing so consistently. Certainly was a solid player just not exactly an NFL type resume.

Now your current QB Wentz was always a significant threat in the passing game with great touch (in addition to everything else he does). Don't know how high he will go in the draft. Regardless I am confident he'll be on an NFL roster five years from now rather than just getting a Canadian visa and learning how to properly pronounce "Out & About". ;)

dewey
January 10th, 2016, 04:31 PM
NDSU returns about half of the starters. I would assume they will also be the favorite to win it all in 2016.

Seniors graduating.
QB Wentz...but Stick started 8 games and won them.
LT All American Joe Haeg
RG Jeremy Kelly
WR Zach Vraa
TE Luke Albers...Connor Wentz has played a LOT so it might not be too big of a loss.
FB Jedre Cyr
FB/TE Andrew Bonnet
Punter Ben LeCompte...big loss but NDSU has been very solid for 10 6 ears at punter.
DT Brian Schaetz
CB CJ Smith...it will be hard to replace him.
CB Jordan Champion...Jalen Allison will be one of the string CB'S next year and he played a lot this year.

Biggest losses in my mind are CJ Smith, Brian Schaetz, Joe Haeg and then Bonnet.

NDSU should be very good again next year.

Dewey

centennial
January 10th, 2016, 04:35 PM
Seniors graduating.
QB Wentz...but Stick started 8 games and won them.
LT All American Joe Haeg
RG Jeremy Kelly
WR Zach Vraa
TE Luke Albers...Connor Wentz has played a LOT so it might not be too big of a loss.
FB Jedre Cyr
FB/TE Andrew Bonnet
Punter Ben LeCompte...bug loss but NDSU has been very solid for 10 6 ears at punter.
DT Brian Schaetz
CB CJ Smith...it will be hard to replace him.
CB Jordan Champion...Jalen Allison will be one of the string CB'S next year and he played a lot this year.

Biggest losses in my mind are CJ Smith, Brian Schaetz, Joe Haeg and then Bonnet.

NDSU should be very good again next year.

Dewey
Out of these guys-
Wentz and Haeg will get drafted on the 1st-2nd day
Bonnet has a outside chance at getting drafted as well
Smith, Champion, LeCompte, Vraa, Schaetz should all get a next level look too.

chattownmocs
January 10th, 2016, 04:38 PM
Chattanooga loses QB Huesman and OG Herren on offense. On D they lose DT Freeman, ILB Hampton, and Nickelback Kendall. Most veteran team of the huesman era. Not just 9 starters returning on O and 8 on D, but 5 offensive and 5 defensive players will be starting at least their 3rd year full time.

Should be the premier team in the southeast region without much question. Oh btw, Alejandro Bennifield, the new qb, is probably the most physically talented dual threat QB in FCS football. Fear the Mocs. It's our turn for a shot at the bison. We will not be intimidated. David will slay the philistine giant once again.

BisonFan02
January 10th, 2016, 04:41 PM
Chattanooga loses QB Huesman and OG Herren on offense. On D they lose DT Freeman, ILB Hampton, and Nickelback Kendall. Most veteran team of the huesman era. Not just 9 starters returning on O and 8 on D, but 5 offensive and 5 defensive players will be starting at least their 3rd year full time.

Should be the premier team in the southeast region.

Is it time to start the Chatty 2016 Natty Champs thread yet? :D

JSUSoutherner
January 10th, 2016, 04:41 PM
Should be the premier team in the southeast region without much question. Oh btw, Alejandro Bennifield, the new qb, is probably the most physically talented dual threat QB in FCS football. Fear the Mocs. It's our turn for a shot at the bison. We will not be intimidated. David will slay the philistine giant once again.
As for the premiere team in the Southeast? Get in line. ;) Will next year's playoffs be the 5th consecutive JSU win over the Mocs or the 4th? I lost count.

IBleedYellow
January 10th, 2016, 04:44 PM
I think he would make a fantastic receiver. Fast. Tall. Great hands.

Side note: I just read an unconfirmed source stating that we are bringing in several huge weapons for next year. Will be interesting to see how it plays out but one of the guys on the list would probably be one of the biggest FCS pickups of the year.

It also said that Fanning would be returning.
Transfers will only get you so far.

I really don't like the fact that certain coaches don't bring kids out of high school and develop them from there.

The entire reason NDSU was in the playoffs was because Easton Stick had been groomed and trained since the first day he stepped on campus.

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JSUSoutherner
January 10th, 2016, 04:51 PM
Transfers will only get you so far.

I really don't like the fact that certain coaches don't bring kids out of high school and develop them from there.

The entire reason NDSU was in the playoffs was because Easton Stick had been groomed and trained since the first day he stepped on campus.

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Totally agree. We should only have maybe three new transfer guys starting next year, maybe less. Everyone else will have already been around the block at JSU. I have faith in our coaches that they will make the best decisions. They aren't the kind of coaches that say "Oh you were at an FBS school?! Here, start for us!" If that were the case then LeMay would have been our starting QB this year.

IBleedYellow
January 10th, 2016, 05:01 PM
I figured Grass had to plug and play some FBS xfers due to rebuilding the program, and you confirmed that.

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jsualumnus
January 10th, 2016, 05:03 PM
I will say this; had Chattanooga beaten JSU in the 2nd round then NDSU would have played them yesterday...

JSUSoutherner
January 10th, 2016, 05:04 PM
I figured Grass had to plug and play some FBS xfers due to rebuilding the program, and you confirmed that.

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He does for a few. I imagine we will have a plug and play receiver next year to fill the gap left by Gonzalez and Screws and if the reports hold true we will have a plug and play running back that may move Clemons back to second string. I don't see too many other transfers starting next year.


I will say this; had Chattanooga beaten JSU in the 2nd round then NDSU would have played them yesterday...

But they didn't beat us, or the time before that, or the time before that, or the time before that, and I'm willing to bet a dollar that they won't next year either.

BisonFan02
January 10th, 2016, 05:09 PM
He does for a few. I imagine we will have a plug and play receiver next year to fill the gap left by Gonzalez and Screws and if the reports hold true we will have a plug and play running back that may move Clemons back to second string. I don't see too many other transfers starting next year.



But they didn't beat us, or the time before that, or the time before that, or the time before that, and I'm willing to bet a dollar that they won't next year either.

That wasn't his point. Just like I told you the Chatty game would end up being your toughest matchup on that side of the bracket, a Chatty win over you guys would have probably sent them to Frisco....where the Bison would have drilled them. :D

JSUSoutherner
January 10th, 2016, 05:12 PM
That wasn't his point. Just like I told you the Chatty game would end up being your toughest matchup on that side of the bracket, a Chatty win over you guys would have probably sent them to Frisco....where the Bison would have drilled them. :D
No doubt. I'm just messing with Chattown and his premiere team of the Southeast.

BisonFan02
January 10th, 2016, 05:13 PM
No doubt. I'm just messing with Chattown and his premiere team of the Southeast.

Oh, I know.....I've been PRAYING for a NDSU/Chatty matchup the last 4+ years. The hilarity of a NDSU/Chatty game thread would probably break the internet. xlolx

JSUSoutherner
January 10th, 2016, 05:16 PM
Oh, I know.....I've been PRAYING for a NDSU/Chatty matchup the last 4+ years. The hilarity of a NDSU/Chatty game thread would probably break the internet. xlolx
Can ESPN televise a murder?

jsualumnus
January 10th, 2016, 05:19 PM
Why is everybody stuck on our FBS transfers? Every school gets them. Look, here in the south, there are so many prospects that go to big schools and sit, get homesick, or their family situation changes... So they come to JSU because of the program. A great example of the power of an FCS program in the south is 5 star WR Tramel Terry having an injury plagued couple years at UGA, gets healthy, but now he sits at #3 on the depth chart. So he transfers for playing time and to win, and he chooses JSU. He could have gone to South Carolina, closer to his home, but he was sold on moving down to FCS and having a shot at winning a NC.

All this being said, I explained this to some NDSU fans in the hotel the other night, and they immediately got it and understood. JSU doesn't rely on FBS transfers for anything. We actually focus recruiting more HS kids than FBS kids or JUCO kids. JSU has it's share of 2 and 3 star recruits signing right out of HS. A few walk-ons have also made pretty huge impacts... NDSU knows all about that with Haeg...

Twentysix
January 10th, 2016, 05:24 PM
People are stuck on FBS transfers cause they usually come with baggage when dropping to the FCS level and historically they have been problem players for other programs. Also, NDSU people are against them because NDSU "almost" doesn't use them, we have had our share of JUCOs though.

That being said, some FBS transfers will be a gem. If they work for you, more power to you.

JSUSoutherner
January 10th, 2016, 05:26 PM
People are stuck on FBS transfers cause they usually come with baggage when dropping to the FCS level and historically they have been problem players for other programs. Also, NDSU people are against them because NDSU "almost" doesn't use them, we have had our share of JUCOs though.
Our transfers don't normally come with baggage. Grass is the kind of guy that wants good men before good players.

jsualumnus
January 10th, 2016, 05:32 PM
I'd agree to the above statement, and I'd agree to the statement about baggage. Ryan Perrilloux transferred to JSU after an assistant coach knowing his family and Les Miles. We brought Ryan in, when no other program wanted him, and he was on notice the whole time here. He came in and got straightened out and was fantastic for us.

BisonTru
January 10th, 2016, 05:36 PM
Why is everybody stuck on our FBS transfers? Every school gets them. Look, here in the south, there are so many prospects that go to big schools and sit, get homesick, or their family situation changes... So they come to JSU because of the program. A great example of the power of an FCS program in the south is 5 star WR Tramel Terry having an injury plagued couple years at UGA, gets healthy, but now he sits at #3 on the depth chart. So he transfers for playing time and to win, and he chooses JSU. He could have gone to South Carolina, closer to his home, but he was sold on moving down to FCS and having a shot at winning a NC.

All this being said, I explained this to some NDSU fans in the hotel the other night, and they immediately got it and understood. JSU doesn't rely on FBS transfers for anything. We actually focus recruiting more HS kids than FBS kids or JUCO kids. JSU has it's share of 2 and 3 star recruits signing right out of HS. A few walk-ons have also made pretty huge impacts... NDSU knows all about that with Haeg...

One thing about Bison fans is they/we see how successful our program has been and how we've done it (very few transfers) and that's the formula and you don't/shouldn't change anything to the point some of our fans wanted to stick with Stick and you just saw how dynamic Wentz is. Even wearing green helmets the first time had many of our fans weazy.

To some if you aren't following the NDSU blueprint you're doing it wrong. In regards to recruiting JMO but you have to decide what works for you and different parts of the country are going to come to different conclusions. And JSU takes a lot fewer transfers than the Southland schools.

chattownmocs
January 10th, 2016, 05:50 PM
You don't need to take transfers if you get the best players from your region to begin with. I'm sure there are good players that want to transfer to ndsu now, but in general, players usually transfer close to home.

UNH_Alum_In_CT
January 10th, 2016, 05:51 PM
No, everybody doesn't get FBS transfers. I only recall one this century for UNH and he was a kid from NH.

JSUSoutherner
January 10th, 2016, 06:04 PM
No, everybody doesn't get FBS transfers. I only recall one this century for UNH and he was a kid from NH.
You know you had a Boston College transfer on your team this year, right?

VT Wildcat Fan53
January 10th, 2016, 06:15 PM
You know you had a Boston College transfer on your team this year, right?


Actually, I am fairly certain that #7 Ismael Asongwed was a redshirt freshman from Boston College High School (commonly referred to as "BC High").

JSUSoutherner
January 10th, 2016, 06:17 PM
Actually, I am fairly certain that #7 Ismael Asongwed was a redshirt freshman from Boston College High School (commonly referred to as "BC High").
Huh, how about that. It is a high school. My bad, carry on.

Never seen a college high school before. The Notre Dame high school kid caught me off guard the first time I looked lol
I also just read he's a Bioengineering major, very impressive.

Wilson16
January 10th, 2016, 08:14 PM
NDSU returns ....... CHAMPIONS

Bison Fan in NW MN
January 10th, 2016, 08:50 PM
Returning starters in '16:

Defense -

Menard
Tanguay
Ambrosius
DeLuca
Stumpf
Gee-Tucker
Grimsley
Dempsey

Offense -

Kuhnert
Johnson
Plankers
Lechler
Stick
Urzendowski
Frazier

NoDak 4 Ever
January 10th, 2016, 08:58 PM
Returning starters in '16:

Defense -

Menard
Tanguay
Ambrosius
DeLuca
Stumpf
Gee-Tucker
Grimsley
Dempsey

Offense -

Kuhnert
Johnson
Plankers
Lechler
Stick
Urzendowski
Frazier

All the running backs return hopefully.

TheRevSFA
January 10th, 2016, 09:11 PM
Not even close.

Agree

Bison Fan in NW MN
January 10th, 2016, 09:37 PM
With another year to develop I have a feeling he has a pretty good chance at the NFL.


He is not a NFL QB...sorry. Good FCS QB but no way is he NFL material. You saw a NFL draft pick on Saturday.

msupokes1
January 11th, 2016, 11:04 AM
Doesn't look to good for McNeese. We return 6/11 on offense and 7/11 on defense and 4/9 coaches.

Sammy94
January 11th, 2016, 04:46 PM
Losing some transfers, most likely adding some. 3 starters on offense, 3 on defense Sammy should be alright in 2016

ALPHAGRIZ1
January 11th, 2016, 04:57 PM
Further proof on how far Montana has fallen this thread is 7 pages in and not one of our douchebag fans has posted.

Not that it matters, we could return the entire team from last year and still not be able to compete in the playoffs. We need 3 consecutive years of cant miss recruiting and then 2 more seasons to get rid of the incredibly average players we have now.

Kidder, Nelson, Sanders and some of our younger LBs (Buss, Sirmon, Schye, Strahm, Thomas) are the only players worth a damn from this years team that will be back. Everyone else is replaceable by incoming freshman talent.

centennial
January 11th, 2016, 05:05 PM
Further proof on how far Montana has fallen this thread is 7 pages in and not one of our douchebag fans has posted.

Not that it matters, we could return the entire team from last year and still not be able to compete in the playoffs. We need 3 consecutive years of cant miss recruiting and then 2 more seasons to get rid of the incredibly average players we have now.

Kidder, Nelson, Sanders and some of our younger LBs (Buss, Sirmon, Schye, Strahm, Thomas) are the only players worth a damn from this years team that will be back. Everyone else is replaceable by incoming freshman talent.
Ursus will give me **** for this but I believe it is also your coaches. Your coaches need to mature, and make better adjustments. Once Stitt get stopped his in game adjustment are at best low lying fruit. I don't think hurry up is necessarily bad, IMO it is bad for winning championships.

SFA 93
January 11th, 2016, 05:20 PM
Overall this Conque's 3rd season I feel that the Jacks have the pieces in place to challenge for the SLC crown.

My questions are at DT as we lose 3 DTs and who do we bring in as our OC.

We have one of our, if not best recruiting classes coming in.

By Position for SFA

OFFENSE: Lose 3 Starters.

RETURN (Starters in BOLD)



QB:#2
Zach Conque
6-6
237
Sr.
ATT:688;CMP:426;CP:62;YDS:4,666;TD:31;INT:17/R:293;YDS:1,180;TD:24




QB:#18
Hunter Taylor
6-1
185
Sr.
ATT:111;CMP:59;CP:53;YDS:548;TD:5;INT:3/R:4;YDS:27;TD:0




QB:#15
Ryan Cottingame
6-3
220
So.





QB:#10
Jake Blumrick
6-2
190
R/Fr.








RB:#23
Joshawa West
5-10
195
Sr.
ATT:183;YDS:1,115;AVG:6.1;TD:4/REC:57;YDS:411;TD:1




RB:#46
Jabralon Allen
6-0
241
Sr.
ATT:0;YDS:0;AVG:0.0;TD:0/REC:4;YDS:61;TD:0




RB:#32
Loren Easly
5-11
200
So.
ATT:127;YDS:783;AVG:6.2;TD:4/REC:7;YDS:43;TD:0




RB:#40
Jacolby Whitaker
5-11
195
So.
ATT:15;YDS:122;AVG:8.1;TD:1/REC:2;YDS:9;TD:0




RB:#34
Jordan Martinez
5-11
190
R/Fr.








WR:#5
Justice Liggins
6-1
210
Sr.
REC:53;YDS:525;TD:5




WR:#19
Robert Sylvester
6-0
184
Sr.
REC:49;YDS:503;TD:1




WR:#83
De'Quann Ruffin
6-2
192
Sr.
REC:23;YDS:375;TD:4




WR:#88
Aaron Piper
5-9
180
Jr.
REC:62;YDS:564;TD:5




WR:#21
Judah Jones
5-11
180
Jr.
REC:17;YDS:225;TD:3




WR:#41
Cole Carter
6-1
190
Jr.
REC:2;YDS:14;TD:0




WR:#11
A.J. Jones
6-2
205
Jr.
REC:1;YDS:14;TD:0




WR:#87
Jordan Barnard
6-2
190
Jr.





WR:#
Edwin Mims Jr.
5-8
180
Jr.





WR:#25
Reggie Daniels
6-2
180
So.
REC:2;YDS:11;TD:0




WR:#80
Darrion Ardoin
6-3
190
So.





WR:#89
Kiki Hill
6-3
216
R/Fr.





WR:#33
Jonathan Sam
6-1
205
R/Fr.








TE:#85
Jayson Clements
6-2
235
Jr.
REC:10;YDS:87;TD:2




TE:#86
Will Taylor
6-3
248
Jr.
REC:5;YDS:59;TD:1




TE:#91
Barrett Cain
6-2
232
Jr.





TE:#84
Lucas Askew
6-6
235
So.








OL:#70
Marshall Womack
6-5
285
Sr.
GP:7




OL:#72
Travis Wiggins
6-4
300
Sr.
GP:32




OL:#68
Anthony Pullins
6-3
300
Sr.
GP:31




OL:#78
Jake Wallace
6-0
285
Sr.
GP:8




OL:#60
Shane Roberson
6-2
304
Jr.
GP:14




OL:#
Josh Keith
6-7
328
Jr.





OL:#71
Devonte Jones
6-2
305
So.
GP:4




OL:#65
Hayden Scott
6-2
285
So.
GP:5




OL:#66
Bryan Berens
6-2
290
So.





OL:#64
Travis Lock
6-3
270
R/Fr.





OL:#52
AJ Brown
6-2
300
R/Fr.





OL:#63
Tim Meyers
6-0
275
R/Fr.





OL:#59
Cole Badders
6-2
250
R/Fr.






DEFENSE:Lose 3 Starters (2 DT; 1 LB)

RETURN



DE:#97
Kedrick Harrison
6-2
246
Sr.
TKL:91;TFL:23.0;SCK:10.5;FF:4;FR:1;QBH:1;PD:3




DE:#44
Jamal Allen
6-0
240
Sr.
TKL:48;TFL:12.5;SCK:7.0;PD:1;QBH:1




DE:#96
Darrell Vanerson
6-3
280
Sr.
TKL:8




DE:#13
John Franklin
6-4
284
Jr.
TKL:43;TFL:9.5;SCK:6.0;FF:1;QBH:5




DE:#99
Mitchell Zimmerle
6-3
262
Jr.
TKL:40;TFL:8.0;SCK:3.0;FF:1;QBH:2




DE:#69
Dalton Logenbaugh
6-1
215
So.





DE:#57
Gary Sampson
6-3
255
R/Fr.





DE:#98
Jack Martin
6-4
220
R/Fr.








DT:#93
Lamont Alexander
6-3
300
So.
TKL:16;TFL:1.5




DT:#94
Demetrion Amie
6-5
272
So.
TKL:8;TFL:2.5;SCK:1.5;QBH:1




DT:#53
Bubu Alvarez
5-10
260
So.
TKL:3;TFL:0.5




DT:#62
Braxton Kelly
6-1
290
So.
TKL:2




DT:#55
Paul Hill
6-2
270
R/Fr.








LB:#49
Price Miller
6-1
235
Sr.
TKL:52;TFL:1.5




LB:#4
George Stone III
6-1
225
Sr.
TKL:26;TFL:3.5;SCK:1.0




LB:#39
Chance Barney
6-1
226
Jr.
TKL:48;TFL:3.0;SCK:0.5;FF:1;FR:3;PD:2




LB:#50
Ryan Woods
6-1
220
So.
TKL:2;TFL:1.5




LB:#54
Spencer Choka
6-1
220
R/Fr.





LB:#43
Anthony Jacobs
6-0
215
R/Fr.





LB:#42
Teddy Britton
5-11
210
R/Fr.








S:#14
Patrick Martin
5-9
186
Sr.
TKL:148;TFL:13.0;SCK:1.0;FF:3;PD:12;INT:3




S:#3
Germod Williams
5-11
190
Sr.
TKL:27;TFL:1.0;FF:2;FR:2;INT:1




S:#6
Zack Starnes
5-9
184
Sr.
TKL:32




S:#37
Ahmad Muhammad
6-0
185
Jr.
TKL:58;TFL:2.0;FR:1;PD:1




S:#29
Allen Stewart
6-1
195
Jr.
TKL:46;TFL:3.5;SCK:1.0;FF:1;QBH:1;PD:1




S:#22
Marlon Walls
5-10
195
Jr.
TKL:29;TFL:1.5;FF:1;FR:1;PD:3;INT:2




S:#38
Lawrence Ghansah
6-1
185
So.
TKL:14;TFL:0.5;FR:1




S:#47
Kyshaun Smith
6-2
190
R/Fr.





S:#36
Alize Ward
5-10
185
R/Fr.








CB:#1
Tre Rosser
5-10
180
Sr.
TKL:16;FR:1;PD:1




CB:#7
Hipolito Corporan
6-1
184
Sr.
TKL:15;TFL:1.0;PD:4




CB:#20
Tarrin Mitchell
5-10
180
So.
TKL:27;QBH:1;PD:1;INT:2




CB:#
Zack Kanipes
5-7
160
Jr.





CB:#48
Trevon Smith
5-10
180
So.
TKL:20;FR:2;PD:3;INT:2






CB:#9
Jimmie Houston
6-1
184
So.
TKL:4




CB:#24
Calvin Lewis
5-11
180
So.





CB:#40
Ken Rogers
5-9
180
So.





CB:#35
Nick Bailey
5-9
180
So.





CB:#46
Deontra Morgan
5-10
175
So.






JUCO who have signed


K:#
Troy Duran
6-1
175
So.







CB:#
Elijah Boyd
6-0
180
Jr.





CB:#
Trenton Perriman
6-0
180
Jr.
** (247Sports) #37 CB; #99 State; #350 National




CB:#
Aaron Foy
5-10
180
Jr.
*** (247sports) #3 ATH; #9 State (TX); #130 National






TE:#
Nick Jones
6-4
250
Jr.







RB:#
Kijana Amous
5-11
210
Jr.
** (247Sports) #145 RB

UAalum72
January 11th, 2016, 05:23 PM
Albany only loses as starters a Nose Tackle, a Defensive Tackle, the Strong Safety and a Placekicker, and an OG, WR, CB and another DT from the rest of the two-deep.

mamberso
January 11th, 2016, 05:45 PM
Returning starters in '16:

Defense -

Menard
Tanguay
Ambrosius
DeLuca
Stumpf
Gee-Tucker
Grimsley
Dempsey

Offense -

Kuhnert
Johnson
Plankers
Lechler
Stick
Urzendowski
Frazier

Urzendowski is ridiculous. I watched several games on Youtube where he and Vraa pretty much caught everything thrown in their direction. Then I got to see it up close Saturday. And I don't think Frazier is your best RB. I think it's Anderson. And returning DeLuca next season isn't fair.

mamberso
January 11th, 2016, 05:49 PM
Further proof on how far Montana has fallen this thread is 7 pages in and not one of our douchebag fans has posted.

Not that it matters, we could return the entire team from last year and still not be able to compete in the playoffs. We need 3 consecutive years of cant miss recruiting and then 2 more seasons to get rid of the incredibly average players we have now.

Kidder, Nelson, Sanders and some of our younger LBs (Buss, Sirmon, Schye, Strahm, Thomas) are the only players worth a damn from this years team that will be back. Everyone else is replaceable by incoming freshman talent.

I watched bot Montana/NDSU games. When that offense is rolling, it's hard to stop. When it's out of sync, it's ugly. With another year's experience, bet Stitt improves.

Twentysix
January 11th, 2016, 05:55 PM
I watched bot Montana/NDSU games. When that offense is rolling, it's hard to stop. When it's out of sync, it's ugly. With another year's experience, bet Stitt improves.

It's also hard to stop when your defense has big holes in it. Which was part of what went on at the beginning of the year.

TheKingpin28
January 11th, 2016, 06:23 PM
Bruce, if used correctly, could eventually be a possible O-POY with Stick at the helm the entire way through to guide the Bison.

IBleedYellow
January 11th, 2016, 06:23 PM
Urzendowski is ridiculous. I watched several games on Youtube where he and Vraa pretty much caught everything thrown in their direction. Then I got to see it up close Saturday. And I don't think Frazier is your best RB. I think it's Anderson. And returning DeLuca next season isn't fair.
Agreed on all counts.

Bruce is the man! But King was heavily recruited by us in high school, but he chose to walk on at Nebraska... However he eventually found out he'd rather play football and came calling. Since we talked while he was in HS, we don't let our recruits hang out to dry. Now he's a Bison.

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ElCid
January 11th, 2016, 06:26 PM
Starters on Offense, we lose 2 on our OL, 1 WR, and 1 running back (#5 in total yards but highest yds per career carry and a great blocker) - for a total loss of 4.

Starters on Defense, we lose 2 on DL, 1 LB, 1 CB for a total loss of 4. Some big shoes to fill but the backups are ready.

On special teams everyone back except I am still not sure if we have our kicker (clutch kicks in USC and CCU wins). Ours Redshirted but did the unthinkable and will graduate on time, with honors to boot! He has an Army commitment. Not sure he can delay. The backup kicker is a senior as well.

We have 55 listed on the 2 deep (3 deep listed at a few spots) including special teams.

Of the 55, we lose 5 on O and 5 on D, and maybe 2 on special teams (Place Kickers) so we return at least 43 of the 55 with kicking being a troubling spot, possibly.

Our backups have all seen some fairly good playing time so we should not miss a beat at most spots. The key will be how the new O-line gels but the backups have had some pretty good playing time so not too much of an issue. Also need to see how the D line shakes out as we lose our two sack and TFL leaders.

Except for one Sr, we get our huge stable of running backs and QBs again next year. I am optimistic to say the least. Oh yeah, and since they are all Freshmen and Sophomores this year, except for one Jr and one Sr, we get them all back the year after as well, except for the one Jr. NICE!

Twentysix
January 11th, 2016, 08:33 PM
I don't think King Frazier has ever been the best RB on the NDSU roster, but what the **** do I know.

Tribe4SF
January 12th, 2016, 06:01 AM
W&M returning starters.

QB- Steve Cluley 6'3" 225
RB- Kendall Anderson 5'9" 200
WR- Devonte Dedmon 5'10" 190
WR- Daniel Kuzjak 6'2" 190
TE- Andrew Caskin 6'5" 245
LT- Chris Durant 6'4" 300
LG- Connor Hilland 6'4" 303
RG- Dom Martinelli 6'4 300
RT- Jerry Ugokwe 6'8" 310

DE- Peyton Gryder 6'3" 255
DT- Isaiah Stephens 6'2" 305
DE- Matt Ahola 6'2" 250
LB- Marcus Harvey 6'2" 210
CB- Trey Reed 5'9" 170
CB- Denzel Dykes 5'10" 175

P- Hunter Windmuller 6'4" 185
PK- Nick Dorka 6' 185
LS- Jesse Anderson 6'3" 225
RS- Dedmon

Others with significant experience.

WR- Kevin Hart 5'11" 190 (former starter)
WR- Jack Armstrong 6' 180
C- Kevin Jennings 6'2" 280
TE- Eric Hensley 6'4" 255 (former starter)

DT- Chris Donald 6'3" 265 (former starter)
DE- Xavier Roscoe 6'3" 235 (former starter)
DE- Spencer Kleinrichert 6'3" 235
LB- Stephen Lubnow 6' 220 (former starter)
CB- Raeshawn Smith 5'10" 180 (former starter)
CB- Aaron Swinton 5'9" 170 (former starter)
S- Mike Barta 6'2" 195 (former starter)
S- Richie Dipietro 5'11" 210

Redshirt freshmen expected to contribute.

RB- Albert Funderburke 6' 205
FB- Matt Whelan 6'2" 235
TE- Tyler Klaus 6'4" 240
C- Nick Wimmer 6'2" 295

DT- Bill Murray 6'4" 275
DE- Joe Suarez 6'3" 240
LB- Nate Atkins 6'1" 230
DB- Corey Parker 5'11" 190
DB- Miles Hayes 6'3" 190
DB- Grant Waxter 6'2" 185
DB- Mike Demonte 6'2" 195

CFBfan
January 12th, 2016, 06:30 AM
Colgate returns a lot: they graduate a TE & G on the O and a LB and a backup corner that started due to injury on D and a punter.
they also get back 2 medical redshirt sr's a DE and a CB. they should be "loaded"

Bison Fan in NW MN
January 12th, 2016, 06:55 AM
Urzendowski is ridiculous. I watched several games on Youtube where he and Vraa pretty much caught everything thrown in their direction. Then I got to see it up close Saturday. And I don't think Frazier is your best RB. I think it's Anderson. And returning DeLuca next season isn't fair.


DeLuca with his size, speed and football "smarts" will get a look next year in the NFL. Best player on the field behind Wentz IMO.....and our OT Haeg will get drafted.

Smitty
January 12th, 2016, 06:59 AM
We have 15 Seniors, 9 offense and 6 defense. Most notable is Troy Mitchell.