Suspend Bo Pelini

[clenz]

http://footballscoop.com/news/bo-pelinis-temper-cost-his-team-a-game-and-some-things-just-never-change/

But what happened from there was so typical Pelini it may as well have been the 2009 Big 12 championship game (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2009/12/pelini-irate-after-nebraskas-loss-to-texas-in-the-big-12-title-game/1),Nebraska’s 2010 visit to Texas A&M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdqUD5PBWnE), a Huskers safety catching a finger to face against Penn State in 2012 (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8624433/nebraska-cornhuskers-bo-pelini-downplays-sideline-argument), his meltdown against Wisconsin in 2014 (http://www.omaha.com/huskers/blogs/mad-chatter-do-bo-pelini-s-sideline-tirades-cause-husker/article_f6154612-6f46-11e4-ba7c-13a1b6de5b8f.html) or any of the other tantrums he threw over the years. In fact, after the play-by-play announcer says he’d never seen a scene like this, the color analyst quips, “Nebraska fans have.”
Consider the following:


After the flag, Pelini loses focus so badly he allows North Dakota State to burn 35 of the final 70 seconds despite holding two timeouts in his back pocket.
Pelini can be seen mouthing “****ing coward” to an off-camera official.
Before starting the ensuing possession at its own 30-yard line, Pelini draws an unsportsmanlike conduct call, pushing the Penguins back to the 15.
The TV sideline reporter relays the officiating crew has become so uncomfortable with the environment with the Stambaugh Stadium environment they’ve requested a police escort off the field.
After two incomplete passes and a sack, Pelini draws another unsportsmanlike conduct flag.
We don’t see it on camera, but the color analyst says Pelini bumps an official.
After Youngstown State’s final heave falls incomplete, Pelini chases toward two more officials for some additional barking before shaking NDSU head coach Chris Klieman’s hand.

To recap: that’s 35 seconds and 19 yards (which would have been 30 if YSU wasn’t already so backed up from its first 15-yard flag) Youngstown State has to make up because of its head coach. Yet after the game, Pelini unironically states, “I wish the kids could have decided the game.”

[clenz]

He absolutely should not be allowed to coach this weekend and I'd like to see the conference suspend him for games next year as well.

His actions are completely unacceptable. YSU players are going to take on that mentality and continue to lose games. YSU deserves every bad thing that happens to them, result wise, as long as he remains their head coach.

[jacksfan29]

Watch the body language of the punter after he shanks one and gets taken to task by Pelini on the sideline. I don't see him turning YSU into a winner. In fact, I don't see him sticking around.


He absolutely should not be allowed to coach this weekend and I'd like to see the conference suspend him for games next year as well.

His actions are completely unacceptable. YSU players are going to take on that mentality and continue to lose games. YSU deserves every bad thing that happens to them, result wise, as long as he remains their head coach.

[Bisonator]

I don't really care what happens to Bo since he isn't my teams coach. What seems weird is Tressel putting up with it. Their demeanor's are on complete opposite ends of the spectrum. I get that he's a good defensive coach and a Youngstown native but that isn't the image I would expect Tressel to want for the University.

[clenz]

Watch the body language of the punter after he shanks one and gets taken to task by Pelini on the sideline. I don't see him turning YSU into a winner. In fact, I don't see him sticking around.
I spent a few minutes reading the YSU board today.

The way they blindly follow him simply because he is their douche bag is exactly what I'd expect from them. They deny Cheater Vest ever cheated. They deny Pelini yells at players and since they knew he yelled at officials when they hired him it's okay. They say we only talk about it because we are jealous of their success - before any of the kids on campus were born.

It's...I'm not going to get into it.

Pelini does not deserve to coach this weekend, or the first few games next year.

[Professor Chaos]

And of course the whole thing seemed to spawn from a DPI that was proven to be the correct call.

There was also a defensive 12 men on the field that may have started the ball rolling though. I didn't understand why that call was made so early because NDSU had just broken the huddle when the whistles blew and if the snap isn't imminent the defense can have 12 men on the field.

[WTFCollegefootballfan]

http://footballscoop.com/news/bo-pelinis-temper-cost-his-team-a-game-and-some-things-just-never-change/

But what happened from there was so typical Pelini it may as well have been the 2009 Big 12 championship game (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2009/12/pelini-irate-after-nebraskas-loss-to-texas-in-the-big-12-title-game/1),Nebraska’s 2010 visit to Texas A&M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdqUD5PBWnE), a Huskers safety catching a finger to face against Penn State in 2012 (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8624433/nebraska-cornhuskers-bo-pelini-downplays-sideline-argument), his meltdown against Wisconsin in 2014 (http://www.omaha.com/huskers/blogs/mad-chatter-do-bo-pelini-s-sideline-tirades-cause-husker/article_f6154612-6f46-11e4-ba7c-13a1b6de5b8f.html) or any of the other tantrums he threw over the years. In fact, after the play-by-play announcer says he’d never seen a scene like this, the color analyst quips, “Nebraska fans have.”
Consider the following:


After the flag, Pelini loses focus so badly he allows North Dakota State to burn 35 of the final 70 seconds despite holding two timeouts in his back pocket.
Pelini can be seen mouthing “****ing coward” to an off-camera official.
Before starting the ensuing possession at its own 30-yard line, Pelini draws an unsportsmanlike conduct call, pushing the Penguins back to the 15.
The TV sideline reporter relays the officiating crew has become so uncomfortable with the environment with the Stambaugh Stadium environment they’ve requested a police escort off the field.
After two incomplete passes and a sack, Pelini draws another unsportsmanlike conduct flag.
We don’t see it on camera, but the color analyst says Pelini bumps an official.
After Youngstown State’s final heave falls incomplete, Pelini chases toward two more officials for some additional barking before shaking NDSU head coach Chris Klieman’s hand.

To recap: that’s 35 seconds and 19 yards (which would have been 30 if YSU wasn’t already so backed up from its first 15-yard flag) Youngstown State has to make up because of its head coach. Yet after the game, Pelini unironically states, “I wish the kids could have decided the game.”

The Offensive coordinator was just as bad or worse.

[Professor Chaos]

The Offensive coordinator was just as bad or worse.
It was actually the co-defensive coordinator and D-line coach who was tag teaming the officiating crew with verbal barbs that led to the PFs on the YSU sideline while their offense was out on the field. The guy happens to be Bo's brother Carl Pelini.... it runs in the family.

[UNIFanSince1983]

It was actually the co-defensive coordinator and D-line coach who was tag teaming the officiating crew with verbal barbs that led to the PFs on the YSU sideline while their offense was out on the field. The guy happens to be Bo's brother Carl Pelini.... it runs in the family.

Cocaine's a hell of a drug

[Lehigh Football Nation]

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[BISON Thunder]

Watching Bo Peep's tirades, I kept wondering what a coach would need to do to get kicked out of a game...I could not believe he was allowed to act/say/do like he did and remain on the field. If an NDSU coach did anything close to this and the AD chose to do nothing, I would find something else to do with my time and money.

[wow]

I don't think there is any reason to go on a witch hunt for Pelini.

If he made contact with an official, combined with the unsportsmanlike penalties, and chasing down officials after the game, a 1 game suspension is warranted, IMO.

Should not face suspension for any games next year though. It isn't like he shoved the official or punched somebody.

[BisonTru]

I really hope he doesn't get suspended. He's the Penguins biggest liability. I hope they keep him for a long time. xnodx

[FormerPokeCenter]

The ball girl's kinda cute. Don't show this thread to Big D Garcia!

[Grizzlies82]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRwN6aDVEAA2-qS.jpg

Love the look on the face of the water girl behind him. That is priceless.

[JimmyJack]

Bo Pelini behaving like an idiot? Who could possibly have predicted that?

[centennial]

One thing Bo almost made sure of. He is not getting a FBS job this year, if he had been calm and shown some progress, he could have easily gotten picked up. 20ish schools looking.

[Professor Chaos]

The MVFC has "reprimanded" Pelini, whatever that means:

http://www.valley-football.org/news/default/2015-16/8410/mvfc-reprimands-ysu-coach-bo-pelini/#.VkprAV9NOlM.twitter

Not really sure the point behind the policy to publicly reprimand a coach for behavior towards a conference official without actually saying what the punishment is.

[JimmyJack]

The MVFC has "reprimanded" Pelini, whatever that means:

http://www.valley-football.org/news/default/2015-16/8410/mvfc-reprimands-ysu-coach-bo-pelini/#.VkprAV9NOlM.twitter

Not really sure the point behind the policy to publicly reprimand a coach for behavior towards a conference official without actually saying what the punishment is.

That's a pathetic response from the MVFC. Anybody out there hoping they'll get to send their son to play for Bo? No. Yeah, I think that's going to be a problem for him.

[SDSUAlum08]

Who was the color guy doing the TV? Was it a Youngstown guy? He's definitely not a fan of Bo. Not that I blame him.

[ValleyTalk]

Who was the color guy doing the TV? Was it a Youngstown guy? He's definitely not a fan of Bo. Not that I blame him.
The TV feed was a NDSU feed.

Coaches show is on radio right now: http://www.iheart.com/live/newsradio-570-wkbn-1869/

O'Charley's in Boardman is packed for this show.

[Hammersmith]

One thing Bo almost made sure of. He is not getting a FBS job this year, if he had been calm and shown some progress, he could have easily gotten picked up. 20ish schools looking.

Why would he want an FBS job next year? It's not like he'd be making more money. In fact, the less money he makes at his regular job(YSU), the more he sticks it to Nebraska.

[jacksfan29]

Love the look on the face of the water girl behind him. That is priceless.

That's awesome.

[penguinpower]

YSU fans think he is crazy too. He cost us a chance at the game and the playoffs and he admitted it on the radio show today. He said the referees refused to give him an explanation and they also did not relay why it was called to any of the YSU players. That was his issue as he states it.

[centennial]

Why would he want an FBS job next year? It's not like he'd be making more money. In fact, the less money he makes at his regular job(YSU), the more he sticks it to Nebraska.
Why? Because a lot of teams are looking, and his name is getting thrown around. He will make the same money regardless, but gets to coach at a higher level. All depending on how much he wants to suck it to Nebraska.

[SDSUAlum08]

The TV feed was a NDSU feed.

Coaches show is on radio right now: http://www.iheart.com/live/newsradio-570-wkbn-1869/

O'Charley's in Boardman is packed for this show.

That makes sense.

[IBleedYellow]

YSU fans think he is crazy too. He cost us a chance at the game and the playoffs and he admitted it on the radio show today. He said the referees refused to give him an explanation and they also did not relay why it was called to any of the YSU players. That was his issue as he states it.
Wait... So the officials have to give a reason other than "we saw PI on your defender."?

Seems to be sufficient.




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[JayJ79]

The MVFC has "reprimanded" Pelini, whatever that means:

http://www.valley-football.org/news/default/2015-16/8410/mvfc-reprimands-ysu-coach-bo-pelini/#.VkprAV9NOlM.twitter

Not really sure the point behind the policy to publicly reprimand a coach for behavior towards a conference official without actually saying what the punishment is.

"unduly provocative language or action toward an official"
I know they mean the "causing annoyance, anger, or another strong reaction, especially deliberately." definition of provocative, but when I read that, I couldn't help but think of the other definition ("arousing sexual desire or interest, especially deliberately.") and pictured Bo trying to seduce the zebras. haha

[ElCid]

Love the look on the face of the water girl behind him. That is priceless.

Yeah and she is pretty hot also, oh crap wrong thread, sorry. Just kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JayJ79]

Wait... So the officials have to give a reason other than "we saw PI on your defender."?

Seems to be sufficient.

I could see a coach wanting an explanation along the lines of "the defender was pulling on the back of the receiver's jersey"

[Sycamore62]

A quick glance at the stats indicates to me that penalties were greater toward NDSU if the UCs were taken out.

[IBleedYellow]

A quick glance at the stats indicates to me that penalties were greater toward NDSU if the UCs were taken out.
But we paid the refs off! Don't you know that's why we were able to get Bo flagged?!

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[clenz]

"unduly provocative language or action toward an official"
I know they mean the "causing annoyance, anger, or another strong reaction, especially deliberately." definition of provocative, but when I read that, I couldn't help but think of the other definition ("arousing sexual desire or interest, especially deliberately.") and pictured Bo trying to seduce the zebras. haha

Yeah


Yelling "get your ass over here" at a red repeatedly and then following that with "you ****ing coward" is a bit more than unduly language

I get all coaches get worked up but that's just insane. He'd have been thrown out of basketball and baseball games. Why is football different for coach standards?

[penguinpower]

Why all of the hate towards YSU?

[WTFCollegefootballfan]

Maybe this is why he was so upset?

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/images/SeamusLight/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by WTFCollegefootballfan http://www.anygivensaturday.com/images/SeamusLight/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?p=2286382#post2286382)
This is from GOB1SON on Bisonville. He was at the game.

http://www.bisonville.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by BisonFan02 http://www.bisonville.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.bisonville.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1063498#post1063498)
Do you mind if I borrow this quote/info for AGS?



Knock yourself out.

Maybe it will get read by the congenial fans the turned and spoke to me and my wife after the PI call and told us to take our paid for refs and to get to get the **** out of their stadium. Or the nice gentleman getting into his car that yelled, once again with two ladies present, "I hope you are happy you pieces of ****".

I have been to a lot of football games all over the country, and I have heard of such behavior (and sometimes, Bison fans have been accused of it) but this is the first time I have seen it like this. I was scared to leave my wife's side for fear someone was going to get into her grill and then I would end up in jail in Ohio.

Oh, one last little tidbit, the nice lady who was all dressed in red sitting two rows in front of us, well her husband's name was Steve and he was one of the officials. I know this because her whole family, also dressed in red, was yelling "STEVE" the whole fricking game trying to get him to look up into the stands. And guess what!?! He was the official that threw the PI flag.

I did not just make that up. The official, that threw the PI flag, his wife was sitting two rows in front of us dressed in Youngstown State gear.

[penguinpower]

Just so everyone knows, the 3000 people at the game are mostly geriatric. There are less than 200 students per game. With more than 20 years of attending games I have never seen our fans act out against another teams fans (unless they deserved it and it usually would involve security). The 3000 that attend the games are there more to be with their friends tailgating and taking care of players families. I refuse to believe what is written. I have zero data points to believe it is true. Just because it was on bisonville must mean it is true. I spoke to an NDSUer and we fed them at our tailgate and met them afterwards. Good people and crazy game with bizarre ending. Heard nothing of them being treated badly but just the opposite.

[Bisonator]

The TV feed was a NDSU feed.

Coaches show is on radio right now: http://www.iheart.com/live/newsradio-570-wkbn-1869/

O'Charley's in Boardman is packed for this show.

Is there a podcast of this anywhere?

[Bisonoline]

Just so everyone knows, the 3000 people at the game are mostly geriatric. There are less than 200 students per game. With more than 20 years of attending games I have never seen our fans act out against another teams fans (unless they deserved it and it usually would involve security). The 3000 that attend the games are there more to be with their friends tailgating and taking care of players families. I refuse to believe what is written. I have zero data points to believe it is true. Just because it was on bisonville must mean it is true. I spoke to an NDSUer and we fed them at our tailgate and met them afterwards. Good people and crazy game with bizarre ending. Heard nothing of them being treated badly but just the opposite.

I know the gentleman who posted his account of the interaction with your fans. His word is beyond reproach.

[Southern Bison]

Just so everyone knows, the 3000 people at the game are mostly geriatric. There are less than 200 students per game. With more than 20 years of attending games I have never seen our fans act out against another teams fans (unless they deserved it and it usually would involve security). The 3000 that attend the games are there more to be with their friends tailgating and taking care of players families. I refuse to believe what is written. I have zero data points to believe it is true. Just because it was on bisonville must mean it is true. I spoke to an NDSUer and we fed them at our tailgate and met them afterwards. Good people and crazy game with bizarre ending. Heard nothing of them being treated badly but just the opposite.
My son (10 yo) & I were at the game from Charlotte, NC. We had the 2 Bison flags at the 50-yd line on the visitor's side. No issues from the fans around us during the game. After, as we walked back to MVR's heard "good luck" from Penguin fans but had 2 cars drive by yelling/swearing at us.

Every school's got 'em...heard it from GaSo fans after their loss in App St. in '13. I had to get in one kid's face for swearing at my 8-yr old wearing a Bison sweatshirt.

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[PantherRob82]

Maybe this is why he was so upset?

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/images/SeamusLight/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by WTFCollegefootballfan http://www.anygivensaturday.com/images/SeamusLight/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?p=2286382#post2286382)
This is from GOB1SON on Bisonville. He was at the game.

http://www.bisonville.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by BisonFan02 http://www.bisonville.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.bisonville.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1063498#post1063498)
Do you mind if I borrow this quote/info for AGS?



Knock yourself out.

Maybe it will get read by the congenial fans the turned and spoke to me and my wife after the PI call and told us to take our paid for refs and to get to get the **** out of their stadium. Or the nice gentleman getting into his car that yelled, once again with two ladies present, "I hope you are happy you pieces of ****".

I have been to a lot of football games all over the country, and I have heard of such behavior (and sometimes, Bison fans have been accused of it) but this is the first time I have seen it like this. I was scared to leave my wife's side for fear someone was going to get into her grill and then I would end up in jail in Ohio.

Oh, one last little tidbit, the nice lady who was all dressed in red sitting two rows in front of us, well her husband's name was Steve and he was one of the officials. I know this because her whole family, also dressed in red, was yelling "STEVE" the whole fricking game trying to get him to look up into the stands. And guess what!?! He was the official that threw the PI flag.

I did not just make that up. The official, that threw the PI flag, his wife was sitting two rows in front of us dressed in Youngstown State gear.

My wife and I had a similar experience in Youngstown in 2006. It was very tame our next few visits though.

[BisonFan02]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRwN6aDVEAA2-qS.jpg

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[Go Green]

C'mon guys-- this is Ohio!

Am I the only one who remembers Woody Hayes?

[Professor Chaos]

Bobby Knight is also from Ohio.... must just be an angry state.

[PAllen]

I could see a coach wanting an explanation along the lines of "the defender was pulling on the back of the receiver's jersey"

Yeah, there are a couple of categories/actions that define pass interference. If you can't state what the category is (ie, arm bar, take down, etc) then you shouldn't be throwing the flag. It's expected for a coach at this level who knows what he's doing to ask for and get the above reason. I'd never send that through the players though. Relay it to the BJ who can relay it to the sideline. Bo had a decent beef with the DPI call. No where near the level that he took it with the officials, but he did have a complaint. I saw none of the rest of the game, so I have no idea what may have led up to this point, which may have put him on edge to begin with. All that said, once the ball is spotted and blown ready for play, as a HC you need to shut up and move on, because then you're just going to get your team into 1st and 25. Going after the officials at the end of the game is just dumb.

[ccd494]

Oh no not bad language around the womanfolk!

[dewey]

Why all of the hate towards YSU?

I have no hate towards YSU at all. I honesty feel bad for you be use you have a coach like Pelini. It was embarrassing watching him cost YSU a chance to win at the end of the game. I get that he is a Youngstown guy but that behavior is unacceptable.

What parent would send their kids to go and play for a man like that? There is no way I ever would.

Dewey

[Kemo]

While I don't condone Pelini's anger issues, I'll say that I'd much rather have that than a coach who isn't graduating his players, tolerates off-the-field trouble-makers, and has cheating/academic scandals.

As far as I know, Pelini has been fine on those fronts and has had success on the field, so I find him much less embarrassing than some other coaches out there.

[JMUNJ08]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRwN6aDVEAA2-qS.jpg

LOUD NOISES!!!

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!!!

[JMUNJ08]

Yeah


Yelling "get your ass over here" at a red repeatedly and then following that with "you ****ing coward" is a bit more than unduly language

I get all coaches get worked up but that's just insane. He'd have been thrown out of basketball and baseball games. Why is football different for coach standards?

I have always wondered the same thing and us folk at JMU know a thing or two about coaches like Pelini...

To really get things under control, I do feel the NFL/ NCAA need to get on the ball like the NBA, 2 strikes and you're out. But, make some actual rules so these guys get to 2 strikes. On the field other than to call a Time Out = FLAG / Atrocious language = FLAG

My, wouldn't this make the game more enjoyable and have less of a need for shows like the one Ray Lewis hosted for people let out of the insane asylum?

[penguinpower]

Yeah, there are a couple of categories/actions that define pass interference. If you can't state what the category is (ie, arm bar, take down, etc) then you shouldn't be throwing the flag. It's expected for a coach at this level who knows what he's doing to ask for and get the above reason. I'd never send that through the players though. Relay it to the BJ who can relay it to the sideline. Bo had a decent beef with the DPI call. No where near the level that he took it with the officials, but he did have a complaint. I saw none of the rest of the game, so I have no idea what may have led up to this point, which may have put him on edge to begin with. All that said, once the ball is spotted and blown ready for play, as a HC you need to shut up and move on, because then you're just going to get your team into 1st and 25. Going after the officials at the end of the game is just dumb.


Pelini was set off by the illegal substitution penalty. NDSU did a late Su and YSU followed suit. He stated that he is permitted to substitute if NDSU has a substitution but they did not allow YSU the time to make the adjustment and the the flag.

[Go Green]

I couldn't find a video of Woody's meltdown in the 1971 Michigan game. An article says that he was indeed suspended for abusing the refs and tearing up the first down markers.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1214354-classic-big-ten-football-ohio-state-at-michigan-1971

The video of him punching the Clemson player is on youtube. That ended his career.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEVJyf0ft3I

[PAllen]

While I don't condone Pelini's anger issues, I'll say that I'd much rather have that than a coach who isn't graduating his players, tolerates off-the-field trouble-makers, and has cheating/academic scandals.

As far as I know, Pelini has been fine on those fronts and has had success on the field, so I find him much less embarrassing than some other coaches out there.

So true.

[PAllen]

Pelini was set off by the illegal substitution penalty. NDSU did a late Su and YSU followed suit. He stated that he is permitted to substitute if NDSU has a substitution but they did not allow YSU the time to make the adjustment and the the flag.

That's a huge error on the officiating crew's part. Following that in quick succession with that DPI call and no explaination, I can see why that would set him off. But again, he has to have enough composure to take it down a couple of notches once the ball is blown ready for play.

[UNIFanSince1983]

While I don't condone Pelini's anger issues, I'll say that I'd much rather have that than a coach who isn't graduating his players, tolerates off-the-field trouble-makers, and has cheating/academic scandals.

As far as I know, Pelini has been fine on those fronts and has had success on the field, so I find him much less embarrassing than some other coaches out there.

This.

[Missingnumber7]

Who was the color guy doing the TV? Was it a Youngstown guy? He's definitely not a fan of Bo. Not that I blame him.

Lee Timmerman

[biggame]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRwN6aDVEAA2-qS.jpg

This pic makes him looks like an actual penguin!

[BisonFan02]

This pic makes him looks like an actual penguin!

http://noobist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/36329-penguin-banner.jpg

[BisonBacker]

I spent a few minutes reading the YSU board today.

The way they blindly follow him simply because he is their douche bag is exactly what I'd expect from them. They deny Cheater Vest ever cheated. They deny Pelini yells at players and since they knew he yelled at officials when they hired him it's okay. They say we only talk about it because we are jealous of their success - before any of the kids on campus were born.

It's...I'm not going to get into it.

Pelini does not deserve to coach this weekend, or the first few games next year.


Spot on. They would back the guy if it meant them moving up from obscurity to something resembling a competitive team no matter what he did. He could go around slapping babies and shooting peoples dogs and they'd defend the guy. I guess when you've been irrelevant for so long you will justify anything to get back some level of respect. Even their board admin/moderator is all in on the guy. I guess the MVFC was wrong to for holding him responsible. To them this is pelini

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[Sycamore62]

I think he should be suspended for a game at least 1 conference game. Since they play us this week, I would be fine if it were a conference game next year but this week would make more sense.

I would probably put up with this if he were our coach AND he were coaching us to national championship level teams.

on the other hand, all ive heard about is how much talent YSU has had for years and he is about to lead them to a losing season.

[UNIFanSince1983]

I think he should be suspended for a game at least 1 conference game. Since they play us this week, I would be fine if it were a conference game next year but this week would make more sense.

I would probably put up with this if he were our coach AND he were coaching us to national championship level teams.

on the other hand, all ive heard about is how much talent YSU has had for years and he is about to lead them to a losing season.

It isn't his 'talent'. And also I heard about that talent too, but I am not sure there was very much there to begin with. Maybe some, but not an abundance like may have been implied.

[Milkman]

While I don't condone Pelini's anger issues, I'll say that I'd much rather have that than a coach who isn't graduating his players, tolerates off-the-field trouble-makers, and has cheating/academic scandals.

As far as I know, Pelini has been fine on those fronts and has had success on the field, so I find him much less embarrassing than some other coaches out there. I'm of the opinion that not doing these things still shouldn't give you a free pass on being a berating asshole.

I understand that you are saying you would take the lesser of the two evils but I would just love for institutions to take none of the two evils.

[ysubigred]

While I don't condone Pelini's anger issues, I'll say that I'd much rather have that than a coach who isn't graduating his players, tolerates off-the-field trouble-makers, and has cheating/academic scandals.

As far as I know, Pelini has been fine on those fronts and has had success on the field, so I find him much less embarrassing than some other coaches out there.

+1^^ I'd like to see him (Bo) take it down a notch with the officiating,,, players on the other hand they need to get their heads out of their arses:D

Until YSU gets rid of the "O" coordinator we'll be MVFC road kill xembarrassedx

[Paladin1aa]

Not ALL posters on YSU's board are "yes" men. I'm on record there pointing out the mistakes in hiring Pelini and the consequences that will follow.

And Red, the problems run deeper than just the OC...................... lol

[ysubigred]

Not ALL posters on YSU's board are "yes" men. I'm on record there pointing out the mistakes in hiring Pelini and the consequences that will follow.

And Red, the problems run deeper than just the OC...................... lol

Well we all know you'd start at the top and send the AD packin xsmiley_wix
O coordinator would be a great start for me.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

I love what Pelini does and hey he started with a ***** sandwich at Youngstown but just like he did at Nebraska start expecting 10 win seasons. Sorry cant get on board with some of the comments in this thread.

If my son wasnt a pussy and actually played football I would LOVE having him coached by Pelini, far more so than a guy who would hug him and give him candy bars for participating. Lets revisit this thread and the predictions that Pelini wont get rid of the last batch of "football players" recruited by another regime and turn Youngstown back into a contender very shortly. I would be more than happy to come back for some crow if need be.

[wow]

I love what Pelini does and hey he started with a ***** sandwich at Youngstown but just like he did at Nebraska start expecting 10 win seasons. Sorry cant get on board with some of the comments in this thread.

If my son wasnt a pussy and actually played football I would LOVE having him coached by Pelini, far more so than a guy who would hug him and give him candy bars for participating. Lets revisit this thread and the predictions that Pelini wont get rid of the last batch of "football players" recruited by another regime and turn Youngstown back into a contender very shortly. I would be more than happy to come back for some crow if need be.

I think you are confusing the problem people have with Bo. Most don't care that he yells. Some might care that he has 4 unsportsmanlike penalties. But more than that, as football fans, we have a hard time understanding why a coach would actively and repeatedly do things that hurt his team's chance of WINNING. I have a hard time understanding why any football fan would actually celebrate that kind of behavior.

If he can't get out of his own way, there will always be days like last Saturday. There are enough ways to lose football games without reducing the number of chances you have. Pelini took away his teams last chance, contending coaches typically don't do that. Typically contending coaches find ways to create extra chances and extend games to win just 1-2 more games a year. The difference between YSU being in or out of the playoffs this season is 1-2 games. If YSU makes a playoff run, that's another 4ish games where fans would wonder if he is going to actively hurt his own team.

Bo doesn't create a culture of winning. He creates a culture of WHINING. It happened at Nebraska. It happened on Saturday. First Bo whines. Then his brother whines. Then his offensive coordinator whines. Then the fans whine. Soon, all that matters is that you are getting shafted and everybody isn't focused on things that will actually impact WINNING A FOOTBALL GAME.

That's why for all his 9 win seasons at Nebraska Bo was never really a contender. Maybe he'll recruit enough talent to overcome all that, but I wouldn't bet on it.

If YSU wants him, that's all that really matters. But don't be shocked when people point and laugh, and don't be surprised when referees throw flags for enforcing rules.

[BisonFan02]

I think you are confusing the problem people have with Bo. Most don't care that he yells. Some might care that he has 4 unsportsmanlike penalties. But more than that, as football fans, we have a hard time understanding why a coach would actively and repeatedly do things that hurt his team's chance of WINNING. I have a hard time understanding why any football fan would actually celebrate that kind of behavior.

If he can't get out of his own way, there will always be days like last Saturday. There are enough ways to lose football games without reducing the number of chances you have. Pelini took away his teams last chance, contending coaches typically don't do that. Typically contending coaches find ways to create extra chances and extend games to win just 1-2 more games a year. The difference between YSU being in or out of the playoffs this season is 1-2 games. If YSU makes a playoff run, that's another 4ish games where fans would wonder if he is going to actively hurt his own team.

Bo doesn't create a culture of winning. He creates a culture of WHINING. It happened at Nebraska. It happened on Saturday. First Bo whines. Then his brother whines. Then his offensive coordinator whines. Then the fans whine. Soon, all that matters is that you are getting shafted and everybody isn't focused on things that will actually impact WINNING A FOOTBALL GAME.

That's why for all his 9 win seasons at Nebraska Bo was never really a contender. Maybe he'll recruit enough talent to overcome all that, but I wouldn't bet on it.

If YSU wants him, that's all that really matters. But don't be shocked when people point and laugh, and don't be surprised when referees throw flags for enforcing rules.

This. His meltdown cost YSU any shot at trying to get a game tying FG....its the whining...not the "tough love"/hard edge. xthumbsupx

[TennBison]

I couldn't find a video of Woody's meltdown in the 1971 Michigan game. An article says that he was indeed suspended for abusing the refs and tearing up the first down markers.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1214354-classic-big-ten-football-ohio-state-at-michigan-1971

The video of him punching the Clemson player is on youtube. That ended his career.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEVJyf0ft3I
The Michigan meltdown punch happened in 1977, and he punched the cameraman that was filming him on the sideline. The other punch he was famous for was when he punched a Clemson linebacker. He also has another incident in the 80s when he punched someone during practice (or so the story goes) but there is no footage of it.

[melloware13]

Maybe this is why he was so upset?

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/images/SeamusLight/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by WTFCollegefootballfan http://www.anygivensaturday.com/images/SeamusLight/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?p=2286382#post2286382)
This is from GOB1SON on Bisonville. He was at the game.

http://www.bisonville.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by BisonFan02 http://www.bisonville.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.bisonville.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1063498#post1063498)
Do you mind if I borrow this quote/info for AGS?



Knock yourself out.

Maybe it will get read by the congenial fans the turned and spoke to me and my wife after the PI call and told us to take our paid for refs and to get to get the **** out of their stadium. Or the nice gentleman getting into his car that yelled, once again with two ladies present, "I hope you are happy you pieces of ****".

I have been to a lot of football games all over the country, and I have heard of such behavior (and sometimes, Bison fans have been accused of it) but this is the first time I have seen it like this. I was scared to leave my wife's side for fear someone was going to get into her grill and then I would end up in jail in Ohio.

Oh, one last little tidbit, the nice lady who was all dressed in red sitting two rows in front of us, well her husband's name was Steve and he was one of the officials. I know this because her whole family, also dressed in red, was yelling "STEVE" the whole fricking game trying to get him to look up into the stands. And guess what!?! He was the official that threw the PI flag.

I did not just make that up. The official, that threw the PI flag, his wife was sitting two rows in front of us dressed in Youngstown State gear.

Maybe the family chose to wear red to avoid fan confrontations. My dad occasionally goes to Giants @ Eagles games in Philly with an old friend, but he wears a plain green sweatshirt and doesn't cheer at all to avoid being arrested and/or assaulted (since we're Giants fans). Never would have anticipated that happening at this level though.

[OSBF]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRwN6aDVEAA2-qS.jpg

"If you're gonna use words like those you best be behind me pullin' my hair"

[OSBF]

If my son wasnt a pussy

Lucky kid to have a dad like you.

[citdog]

While I don't condone Pelini's anger issues, I'll say that I'd much rather have that than a coach who isn't graduating his players, tolerates off-the-field trouble-makers, and has cheating/academic scandals.

y'all make that guy the president of the school.

http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i49/5/2/13/fbz_8683066eb700932de00a4641d458d851.jpg

[Bisonator]

I think you are confusing the problem people have with Bo. Most don't care that he yells. Some might care that he has 4 unsportsmanlike penalties. But more than that, as football fans, we have a hard time understanding why a coach would actively and repeatedly do things that hurt his team's chance of WINNING. I have a hard time understanding why any football fan would actually celebrate that kind of behavior.

If he can't get out of his own way, there will always be days like last Saturday. There are enough ways to lose football games without reducing the number of chances you have. Pelini took away his teams last chance, contending coaches typically don't do that. Typically contending coaches find ways to create extra chances and extend games to win just 1-2 more games a year. The difference between YSU being in or out of the playoffs this season is 1-2 games. If YSU makes a playoff run, that's another 4ish games where fans would wonder if he is going to actively hurt his own team.

Bo doesn't create a culture of winning. He creates a culture of WHINING. It happened at Nebraska. It happened on Saturday. First Bo whines. Then his brother whines. Then his offensive coordinator whines. Then the fans whine. Soon, all that matters is that you are getting shafted and everybody isn't focused on things that will actually impact WINNING A FOOTBALL GAME.

That's why for all his 9 win seasons at Nebraska Bo was never really a contender. Maybe he'll recruit enough talent to overcome all that, but I wouldn't bet on it.

If YSU wants him, that's all that really matters. But don't be shocked when people point and laugh, and don't be surprised when referees throw flags for enforcing rules.

Exactly. It really has nothing to do with his coaching. I think he's a decent coach but has some serious issues controlling his temper and it's costing his teams games. He needs to take a serious look in the mirror. I'm willing to bet if one of his players acted like he did and got those flags he'd be all over his ass!

[penguinpower]

Actually Pelini has made it clear that he will take a few penalties. As a matter of fact he wanted the defender to cause a PI when he got out of position on that long pass.

[Bisonator]

Actually Pelini has made it clear that he will take a few penalties. As a matter of fact he wanted the defender to cause a PI when he got out of position on that long pass.
I'm talking bone headed penalties like Bo's.

[Thumper 76]

What should we suspend him over? Water? A pool of water? A POOL OF WATER WITH SHARKS?!?!? A pool of water with freaking laser beams on their heads?!?!?



I vote for the last option.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Lucky kid to have a dad like you.
Honest?

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[ValleyTalk]

Judging from reading this site for years, you folks all seem to despise / hate Tressel, Wolford, or Pelini. Consequently it doesn't matter who we hire, you'll seem to find fault with someone.

As an aside, for all the folks that still bitch about Tressel, he is doing some great things at YSU. President Tressel himself announced yesterday he and his wife are donating $1 million to start a new student employee endowment at YSU: http://newsroom.ysu.edu/tressels-donate-1-million-to-establish-student-work-endowment-fund-at-ysu/

Thank You President Tressel!

[clenz]

I loved Walford and Heacock.

I don't think Pelini will do any better. Teams take on the mentality of their coach, and well, that's not a good thing for YSU

[PantherRob82]

Judging from reading this site for years, you folks all seem to despise / hate Tressel, Wolford, or Pelini. Consequently it doesn't matter who we hire, you'll seem to find fault with someone.

As an aside, for all the folks that still bitch about Tressel, he is doing some great things at YSU. President Tressel himself announced yesterday he and his wife are donating $1 million to start a new student employee endowment at YSU: http://newsroom.ysu.edu/tressels-donate-1-million-to-establish-student-work-endowment-fund-at-ysu/

Thank You President Tressel!

Maybe we just hate YSU. xsmiley_wix

[ValleyTalk]

Maybe we just hate YSU. xsmiley_wix
Oh I'm well aware you do :)

[TennBison]

Here is an article where i got the picture of police actually escorting the "White Hats" out of the stadium.http://www.thejambar.com/refs-determine-ysus-season/
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21806&stc=1

Notice the 3 cops(in black stocking caps) in the background of the pic and the shoulder patch of the one between the two YSU fans wearing red caps.
(http://www.thejambar.com/refs-determine-ysus-season/)

[PantherRob82]

Oh I'm well aware you do :)

Yup, that's why I have a Pete the Penguin light switch cover. xrolleyesx

[JayJ79]

Yup, that's why I have a Pete the Penguin light switch cover. xrolleyesx

do you provocatively turn it on?

[JayJ79]

is it really all that unusual for officials to have security or police escort them off the field (especially if they have to cross through areas open to the public)?

I know schools often have law enforcement escorts for coaches (in the Big Ten for example)

[TennBison]

is it really all that unusual for officials to have security or police escort them off the field (especially if they have to cross through areas open to the public)?

I know schools often have law enforcement escorts for coaches (in the Big Ten for example)
I can say for sure that I have never seen it in the Fargodome ever, and can't recall it anywhere else that I saw at the FCS level. Not saying has never happened or goes on with any regularity, just not that I have ever seen.

[clenz]

I don't remember ever seeing it in the UNIDome. Could be wrong though

[JayJ79]

maybe it is basketball that I'm thinking of

[penguinpower]

You guys haven't seen it because you are cornbillies. Leave your shotguns in your pickup trucks before entering the stadium. Police intervention required in little Chicago

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

You guys haven't seen it because you are cornbillies. Police intervention required in little Chicago


or maybe it happens all the time at Stambaugh because the fans are fair weather fans and have a laundry list of excuses when YSU loses.....xlolx

[penguinpower]

or maybe it happens all the time at Stambaugh because the fans are fair weather fans and have a laundry list of excuses when YSU loses.....xlolx

I call bull****.

[penguinpower]

or maybe it happens all the time at Stambaugh because the fans are fair weather fans and have a laundry list of excuses when YSU loses.....xlolx

Better yet, go stand in your cornfield and get sucked up by a tornado.

[penguinpower]

Actually I have no issues with NDSU fans. It is the liberals from Iowa that I can't stand.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Better yet, go stand in your cornfield and get sucked up by a tornado.


xlolx

You obviously do not know jack squat about Ag up in this region. Corn is way down on the list of commodities grown around here....xlolx

Keep going though, this is entertaining.

Oh ya, see you in the playoffs....oh wait, your team pissed it away.........AGAIN!

xthumbsupx

[penguinpower]

xlolx

You obviously do not know jack squat about Ag up in this region. Corn is way down on the list of commodities grown around here....xlolx

Keep going though, this is entertaining.

Oh ya, see you in the playoffs....oh wait, your team pissed it away.........AGAIN!

xthumbsupx

The weather has been bad for a long time. There aren't any fans to bitch and moan

[penguinpower]

There are 3 fans. Valley talk, daveds, and .....I can't remember the third one.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

The weather has been bad for a long time. There aren't any fans to bitch and moan




Bo is a good Xs and Os coach but his temperament is something to behold.

He had a very good game plan for the Bison and it worked for 3 quarters but football games are 4. Can he bring YSU back to their powerhouse status like the mid 90s? Maybe, but in my opinion he will be gone in a couple of years to a FBS team.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

There are 3 fans. Valley talk, daveds, and .....I can't remember the third one.


I'm just giving up some crap....xthumbsupx

No worries!

[penguinpower]

Probably. So enjoy the sideline entertainment while it lasts.

[CID1990]

Youngstown is kind of close to Huntington WV, isn't it?

Maybe something in the water supply?

[clenz]

maybe it is basketball that I'm thinking of

Only when Iowa plays in the McLeod. It's why Iowa doesn't play UNI in CF anymore

[Sycamore62]

I can say for sure that I have never seen it in the Fargodome ever, and can't recall it anywhere else that I saw at the FCS level. Not saying has never happened or goes on with any regularity, just not that I have ever seen.

Ive done a lot of games in small high schools where there is law enforcement assigned to officials entering and exiting.

I dont know if ISUb has police specifially walking off with them but they are in that area.

my biggest issues with this is making contact with the official and then following them off the field. those should require some sort of suspension.

[Southern Bison]

If a player makes contact with an official in the same manner that Bo did, it's a likely ejection. Why they didn't toss him after the 2nd flag had me wondering...

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[Sycamore62]

If a player makes contact with an official in the same manner that Bo did, it's a likely ejection. Why they didn't toss him after the 2nd flag had me wondering...

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we lost a player after his 2nd UC this year. first one was jawing another player for which they both got UCs and then he spiked the ball after scoring the game ending go-ahead touchdown.

last year Tenn Tech had a player got 2 for celebrating onto the field with no helmet on an extra pt team.

both of these people were ejected and idiots for getting ejected in that fashion

[Lehigh Football Nation]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRwN6aDVEAA2-qS.jpg

No particular reason why I'm bumping this up again other then the fact that it makes me giggle to no end.

[Missingnumber7]

If a player makes contact with an official in the same manner that Bo did, it's a likely ejection. Why they didn't toss him after the 2nd flag had me wondering...

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ARTICLE 6. a. Any player or identified squad member in uniform who commits
two unsportsmanlike conduct fouls in the same game shall be disqualified.

Our crew had this issue and we searched and searched for what would happened to a college coach if we ran into an issue with Unsportsmanlike on a coach. And since the disqualification rule, quoted above, only addresses players we proceeded with the assumption that acts by a coach would be punished by the conference. To address the contact portion.


ARTICLE 4. Persons subject to the rules (Rule 1-1-6) shall not intentionally
contact a game official forcibly during the game.
PENALTY—Administer as a dead-ball foul. 15 yards from the succeeding
spot. Automatic first down for fouls by Team B if not in conflict with other rules. Automatic disqualification [S7, S27 and S47].

[Mayville Bison]

I can say for sure that I have never seen it in the Fargodome ever, and can't recall it anywhere else that I saw at the FCS level. Not saying has never happened or goes on with any regularity, just not that I have ever seen.

I've never seen an escort, but there have been plenty of times where security lines up to stop/prevent fans from entering the field.

[jtthenutt]

Only when Iowa plays in the McLeod. It's why Iowa doesn't play UNI in CF anymore

I was sitting on the baseline with some of the local newspaper guys when Fran exploded. I think that's the only police escort I've seen at any UNI game. Fran and Bo are similar. I'd like to see them golf together.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I was sitting on the baseline with some of the local newspaper guys when Fran exploded. I think that's the only police escort I've seen at any UNI game. Fran and Bo are similar. I'd like to see them golf together.

Over/under on broken putters: 10 1/2

[BisonFan02]

Over/under on broken putters: 10 1/2

Under....no reason to carry more than 1 per bag. :D

[jtthenutt]

Under....no reason to carry more than 1 per bag. :D

agree. I'd say 7 broken clubs. 3 cracked ribs. 2 black eyes. And a golf cart swimming in a water hazzard

[clenz]

agree. I'd say 7 broken clubs. 3 cracked ribs. 2 black eyes. And a golf cart swimming in a water hazzard

One of them ends up dead

[Professor Chaos]

How many hookers could they kill if Bo and Craig James joined forces?

[Sycamore62]

How many hookers could they kill if Bo and Craig James joined forces?

Charlie Sheen/6,000

[Daved]

I think he should be suspended for a game at least 1 conference game. Since they play us this week, I would be fine if it were a conference game next year but this week would make more sense.

I would probably put up with this if he were our coach AND he were coaching us to national championship level teams.

on the other hand, all ive heard about is how much talent YSU has had for years and he is about to lead them to a losing season.They have had talent for years so you heard right--but so does the rest of the MVFC.

[Daved]

The weather has been bad for a long time. There aren't any fans to bitch and moanI'm one of the few fans but I'm not bitching or moaning.I honestly don't think YSU would've made the playoffs had they beaten the Bison--I think the committee will only give them a shot when they have no choice--The NDSU game was not the massacre many expected--NDSU is playing their best ball and YSU is playing differently than the past few Novembers.We have to keep in mind that the Bison have won the NC the past 4 years and they are conditioned to not panic and conditioned to believe that they will win no matter what.NDSU may have forced us to punt but it wasn't their fault the punts were bad and it wasn't their fault that an open man dropped a probable td in his hands.Bo didn't call timeout after the PI call and his outbursts helped prevent us a shot @ getting in fg range so realistically we helped NDSU beat YSU--back in the 90's when we were champions this scenario would NEVER happen and we will never be champions till we rectify this--champions do not help the other team win.We have improved over last year--losing by only 2 pts to the National Runners-Up(a gutsy fake punt call that the Redbirds made by less than a yd changed the outcome of that game)--we only lost to NDSU by 3pts and we lost to ACC Pitt by one score--all 3 games with 3 very tough teams were winnable so I believe if we solidify our crippled O-Line and JT slips a few ludes in Bo's coffee we will be a force to reckon with next season.

[Daved]

Maybe we just hate YSU. xsmiley_wixYour allowed to---your just not allowed to make hateful and constantly negative posts about them and claim that you don't have any hate towards them! BTW where do we play you guys next year?xdrunkyx

[PantherRob82]

Your allowed to---your just not allowed to make hateful and constantly negative posts about them and claim that you don't have any hate towards them! BTW where do we play you guys next year?xdrunkyx

*You're. xlolx

No idea where we play next year. My priority is to make the game at EWU and home against Montana.

[Sycamore62]

I'm one of the few fans but I'm not bitching or moaning.I honestly don't think YSU would've made the playoffs had they beaten the Bison--I think the committee will only give them a shot when they have no choice--The NDSU game was not the massacre many expected--NDSU is playing their best ball and YSU is playing differently than the past few Novembers.We have to keep in mind that the Bison have won the NC the past 4 years and they are conditioned to not panic and conditioned to believe that they will win no matter what.NDSU may have forced us to punt but it wasn't their fault the punts were bad and it wasn't their fault that an open man dropped a probable td in his hands.Bo didn't call timeout after the PI call and his outbursts helped prevent us a shot @ getting in fg range so realistically we helped NDSU beat YSU--back in the 90's when we were champions this scenario would NEVER happen and we will never be champions till we rectify this--champions do not help the other team win.We have improved over last year--losing by only 2 pts to the National Runners-Up(a gutsy fake punt call that the Redbirds made by less than a yd changed the outcome of that game)--we only lost to NDSU by 3pts and we lost to ACC Pitt by one score--all 3 games with 3 very tough teams were winnable so I believe if we solidify our crippled O-Line and JT slips a few ludes in Bo's coffee we will be a force to reckon with next season.

We lost to ISUb by 3 and NDSU by 14 after being tied in the 3rd. That makes us about the same team right. We get a lot of fans saying our coaches are killing us too. Playcalling mostly though

[PantherRob82]

We lost to ISUb by 3 and NDSU by 14 after being tied in the 3rd. That makes us about the same team right. We get a lot of fans saying our coaches are killing us too. Playcalling mostly though

You guys lost to yourselves by 3? xlolx

[Sycamore62]

You guys lost to yourselves by 3? xlolx
Lol. We could have the way we played in the UNI dome this year

[I-AA Fan]

First of all …Clenz… what concern is any of this to you? Don’t feed me any crap about your “holier-than-thou” concern for the game of I-AA/FCS football (you will have to excuse any of my typos as I am on a kneeler with my right-hand beating my chest). This is not the first, or the second, but the 3rd-game this season where unbelievable calls have been levied again YSU, by MVFC officials. It started long before Pelini. That being said, if the officials had any worries about leaving the field …excuse me but some of that crew is local, so we do know where they live. J
Secondly, the hiring of Bo Pelini was a “freak occurrence” and it is not as if any (I mean any single) other FCS program has ever been able to hire a head coach of this caliber …you would be “tooting your horns” as obnoxiously as NDSU does their team. On top of the hiring of our head coach …our university president (a 2nd-generation Hall-of-Famer that you worthlessly try to defame) saw 10 post-seasons at the I-AA level, along with an equal number at the IA/FBS level. He took YSU to 6 national championship games in 10-years. The then he propelled Ohio State to the most dominant team in the big-10, seeing another 10 post-seasons. The only conference team close is Michigan State, coached by another former YSU Penguin. Along the way, JT gave the Buckeye fans their first national championship since 1969 and brought FCS/I-AA more attention than it has ever had. Despite all of this, Jim Tressel has VERY LITTLE to do with YSU athletics. Bo Pelini is the top hire in the history of the division and Jim Tressel is the perfect hire as President; this could never do anything but help YSU. It really does not matter to me if any of you would let your kids play for Bo, as most every other parent with kids that play at this level would love to have their kids play for a team coached by Bo. If you are going to jump up on the box of Sudso, say something about the hiring of Carl Pelini, as he is the Penguin defensive coach.
To the game/play in question, there is no such thing as tight coverage (ANYWHERE) where there is not poking and grabbing. The defenders could not turn their head any other way and then it would be a penalty. That was probably one of 2-dozen times it happened that game alone on both sides. Yet it was the only time that PI was called. I do not mind umpires having their own strike zone, but you have to be consistent in the calls. Also, where was the call was when basically the entire NDSU line jumped after the center snapped the ball early? Heck, the QB was not even ready to accept the exchange and he dropped the ball, so it is not as if the False Start was even questionable. So not only was that interference call crap, it should not have mattered. Even the NDSU announcers saw it and commented.
Also, that NDSU coach was keeping his offense on the sidelines after every single play that resulted in clock-stoppage & trying to “sneek” in different players …not a single call against them for illegal substitution even though YSU was not given any opportunity to sub-out. A Youngstown high-school would not stoop to such low-end coaching. The one time that Pelini (Carl) held the defense to try and counter this; the officials gave YSU a sideline warning, as he had to blow his whistle a 3rd-time. So since NDSU was on the sidelines even longer, why were both sides not given a warning? I am not even going to get into the time where the NDSU receiver stepped out-of-bounds or the facemask; as camera angles can look funny and maybe the head turned just before the grab …but these two are also more than questionable “no-calls”.
This type of officiating is just too flagrantly poor to just to be explained-away as “mistakes”; this is supposed to be DI collegiate football. The average fans may not have any idea how the game is supposed to be played; but if you want to pull this in Youngstown, you are going to hear about it. Call plays and violations fair!!!

All of this being said ...on to the Trees.

[FargoBison]

First of all …Clenz… what concern is any of this to you? Don’t feed me any crap about your “holier-than-thou” concern for the game of I-AA/FCS football (you will have to excuse any of my typos as I am on a kneeler with my right-hand beating my chest). This is not the first, or the second, but the 3rd-game this season where unbelievable calls have been levied again YSU, by MVFC officials. It started long before Pelini. That being said, if the officials had any worries about leaving the field …excuse me but some of that crew is local, so we do know where they live. J
Secondly, the hiring of Bo Pelini was a “freak occurrence” and it is not as if any (I mean any single) other FCS program has ever been able to hire a head coach of this caliber …you would be “tooting your horns” as obnoxiously as NDSU does their team. On top of the hiring of our head coach …our university president (a 2nd-generation Hall-of-Famer that you worthlessly try to defame) saw 10 post-seasons at the I-AA level, along with an equal number at the IA/FBS level. He took YSU to 6 national championship games in 10-years. The then he propelled Ohio State to the most dominant team in the big-10, seeing another 10 post-seasons. The only conference team close is Michigan State, coached by another former YSU Penguin. Along the way, JT gave the Buckeye fans their first national championship since 1969 and brought FCS/I-AA more attention than it has ever had. Despite all of this, Jim Tressel has VERY LITTLE to do with YSU athletics. Bo Pelini is the top hire in the history of the division and Jim Tressel is the perfect hire as President; this could never do anything but help YSU. It really does not matter to me if any of you would let your kids play for Bo, as most every other parent with kids that play at this level would love to have their kids play for a team coached by Bo. If you are going to jump up on the box of Sudso, say something about the hiring of Carl Pelini, as he is the Penguin defensive coach.
To the game/play in question, there is no such thing as tight coverage (ANYWHERE) where there is not poking and grabbing. The defenders could not turn their head any other way and then it would be a penalty. That was probably one of 2-dozen times it happened that game alone on both sides. Yet it was the only time that PI was called. I do not mind umpires having their own strike zone, but you have to be consistent in the calls. Also, where was the call was when basically the entire NDSU line jumped after the center snapped the ball early? Heck, the QB was not even ready to accept the exchange and he dropped the ball, so it is not as if the False Start was even questionable. So not only was that interference call crap, it should not have mattered. Even the NDSU announcers saw it and commented.
Also, that NDSU coach was keeping his offense on the sidelines after every single play that resulted in clock-stoppage & trying to “sneek” in different players …not a single call against them for illegal substitution even though YSU was not given any opportunity to sub-out. A Youngstown high-school would not stoop to such low-end coaching. The one time that Pelini (Carl) held the defense to try and counter this; the officials gave YSU a sideline warning, as he had to blow his whistle a 3rd-time. So since NDSU was on the sidelines even longer, why were both sides not given a warning? I am not even going to get into the time where the NDSU receiver stepped out-of-bounds or the facemask; as camera angles can look funny and maybe the head turned just before the grab …but these two are also more than questionable “no-calls”.
This type of officiating is just too flagrantly poor to just to be explained-away as “mistakes”; this is supposed to be DI collegiate football. The average fans may not have any idea how the game is supposed to be played; but if you want to pull this in Youngstown, you are going to hear about it. Call plays and violations fair!!!

All of this being said ...on to the Trees.

There was no false start, the center snapped the ball early and it caused a moment of mass confusion but a botched snap is not a false start. There was pass interference there, not sure if it should have been called but there is no denying it occurred.

[Professor Chaos]

First of all …Clenz… what concern is any of this to you? Don’t feed me any crap about your “holier-than-thou” concern for the game of I-AA/FCS football (you will have to excuse any of my typos as I am on a kneeler with my right-hand beating my chest). This is not the first, or the second, but the 3rd-game this season where unbelievable calls have been levied again YSU, by MVFC officials. It started long before Pelini. That being said, if the officials had any worries about leaving the field …excuse me but some of that crew is local, so we do know where they live. J
Secondly, the hiring of Bo Pelini was a “freak occurrence” and it is not as if any (I mean any single) other FCS program has ever been able to hire a head coach of this caliber …you would be “tooting your horns” as obnoxiously as NDSU does their team. On top of the hiring of our head coach …our university president (a 2nd-generation Hall-of-Famer that you worthlessly try to defame) saw 10 post-seasons at the I-AA level, along with an equal number at the IA/FBS level. He took YSU to 6 national championship games in 10-years. The then he propelled Ohio State to the most dominant team in the big-10, seeing another 10 post-seasons. The only conference team close is Michigan State, coached by another former YSU Penguin. Along the way, JT gave the Buckeye fans their first national championship since 1969 and brought FCS/I-AA more attention than it has ever had. Despite all of this, Jim Tressel has VERY LITTLE to do with YSU athletics. Bo Pelini is the top hire in the history of the division and Jim Tressel is the perfect hire as President; this could never do anything but help YSU. It really does not matter to me if any of you would let your kids play for Bo, as most every other parent with kids that play at this level would love to have their kids play for a team coached by Bo. If you are going to jump up on the box of Sudso, say something about the hiring of Carl Pelini, as he is the Penguin defensive coach.
To the game/play in question, there is no such thing as tight coverage (ANYWHERE) where there is not poking and grabbing. The defenders could not turn their head any other way and then it would be a penalty. That was probably one of 2-dozen times it happened that game alone on both sides. Yet it was the only time that PI was called. I do not mind umpires having their own strike zone, but you have to be consistent in the calls. Also, where was the call was when basically the entire NDSU line jumped after the center snapped the ball early? Heck, the QB was not even ready to accept the exchange and he dropped the ball, so it is not as if the False Start was even questionable. So not only was that interference call crap, it should not have mattered. Even the NDSU announcers saw it and commented.
Also, that NDSU coach was keeping his offense on the sidelines after every single play that resulted in clock-stoppage & trying to “sneek” in different players …not a single call against them for illegal substitution even though YSU was not given any opportunity to sub-out. A Youngstown high-school would not stoop to such low-end coaching. The one time that Pelini (Carl) held the defense to try and counter this; the officials gave YSU a sideline warning, as he had to blow his whistle a 3rd-time. So since NDSU was on the sidelines even longer, why were both sides not given a warning? I am not even going to get into the time where the NDSU receiver stepped out-of-bounds or the facemask; as camera angles can look funny and maybe the head turned just before the grab …but these two are also more than questionable “no-calls”.
This type of officiating is just too flagrantly poor to just to be explained-away as “mistakes”; this is supposed to be DI collegiate football. The average fans may not have any idea how the game is supposed to be played; but if you want to pull this in Youngstown, you are going to hear about it. Call plays and violations fair!!!

All of this being said ...on to the Trees.
I have no idea what you're talking about with the majority of your bitching about calls/no calls but given your take on the play where PI was called I'm not going to put too much stock in your appraisal of the rest of the game. Like FargoBison said, there was no false start and the replay showed that. Beyond that the PI was obvious to anyone who's not a YSU conspiracy theorist. There's multiple angles that show the DB was tugging the WR's jersey hard enough to gain leverage, which gives himself an advantage and that's the definition of PI.

[BisonFan02]

First of all …Clenz… what concern is any of this to you? Don’t feed me any crap about your “holier-than-thou” concern for the game of I-AA/FCS football (you will have to excuse any of my typos as I am on a kneeler with my right-hand beating my chest). This is not the first, or the second, but the 3rd-game this season where unbelievable calls have been levied again YSU, by MVFC officials. It started long before Pelini. That being said, if the officials had any worries about leaving the field …excuse me but some of that crew is local, so we do know where they live. J
Secondly, the hiring of Bo Pelini was a “freak occurrence” and it is not as if any (I mean any single) other FCS program has ever been able to hire a head coach of this caliber …you would be “tooting your horns” as obnoxiously as NDSU does their team. On top of the hiring of our head coach …our university president (a 2nd-generation Hall-of-Famer that you worthlessly try to defame) saw 10 post-seasons at the I-AA level, along with an equal number at the IA/FBS level. He took YSU to 6 national championship games in 10-years. The then he propelled Ohio State to the most dominant team in the big-10, seeing another 10 post-seasons. The only conference team close is Michigan State, coached by another former YSU Penguin. Along the way, JT gave the Buckeye fans their first national championship since 1969 and brought FCS/I-AA more attention than it has ever had. Despite all of this, Jim Tressel has VERY LITTLE to do with YSU athletics. Bo Pelini is the top hire in the history of the division and Jim Tressel is the perfect hire as President; this could never do anything but help YSU. It really does not matter to me if any of you would let your kids play for Bo, as most every other parent with kids that play at this level would love to have their kids play for a team coached by Bo. If you are going to jump up on the box of Sudso, say something about the hiring of Carl Pelini, as he is the Penguin defensive coach.
To the game/play in question, there is no such thing as tight coverage (ANYWHERE) where there is not poking and grabbing. The defenders could not turn their head any other way and then it would be a penalty. That was probably one of 2-dozen times it happened that game alone on both sides. Yet it was the only time that PI was called. I do not mind umpires having their own strike zone, but you have to be consistent in the calls. Also, where was the call was when basically the entire NDSU line jumped after the center snapped the ball early? Heck, the QB was not even ready to accept the exchange and he dropped the ball, so it is not as if the False Start was even questionable. So not only was that interference call crap, it should not have mattered. Even the NDSU announcers saw it and commented.
Also, that NDSU coach was keeping his offense on the sidelines after every single play that resulted in clock-stoppage & trying to “sneek” in different players …not a single call against them for illegal substitution even though YSU was not given any opportunity to sub-out. A Youngstown high-school would not stoop to such low-end coaching. The one time that Pelini (Carl) held the defense to try and counter this; the officials gave YSU a sideline warning, as he had to blow his whistle a 3rd-time. So since NDSU was on the sidelines even longer, why were both sides not given a warning? I am not even going to get into the time where the NDSU receiver stepped out-of-bounds or the facemask; as camera angles can look funny and maybe the head turned just before the grab …but these two are also more than questionable “no-calls”.
This type of officiating is just too flagrantly poor to just to be explained-away as “mistakes”; this is supposed to be DI collegiate football. The average fans may not have any idea how the game is supposed to be played; but if you want to pull this in Youngstown, you are going to hear about it. Call plays and violations fair!!!

All of this being said ...on to the Trees.

Delusions of grandeur....maybe you guys should join the MAC instead of going to the CAA. Either way works for me.

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First of all …Clenz… what concern is any of this to you? Don’t feed me any crap about your “holier-than-thou” concern for the game of I-AA/FCS football (you will have to excuse any of my typos as I am on a kneeler with my right-hand beating my chest). This is not the first, or the second, but the 3rd-game this season where unbelievable calls have been levied again YSU, by MVFC officials. It started long before Pelini. That being said, if the officials had any worries about leaving the field …excuse me but some of that crew is local, so we do know where they live. J
Secondly, the hiring of Bo Pelini was a “freak occurrence” and it is not as if any (I mean any single) other FCS program has ever been able to hire a head coach of this caliber …you would be “tooting your horns” as obnoxiously as NDSU does their team. On top of the hiring of our head coach …our university president (a 2nd-generation Hall-of-Famer that you worthlessly try to defame) saw 10 post-seasons at the I-AA level, along with an equal number at the IA/FBS level. He took YSU to 6 national championship games in 10-years. The then he propelled Ohio State to the most dominant team in the big-10, seeing another 10 post-seasons. The only conference team close is Michigan State, coached by another former YSU Penguin. Along the way, JT gave the Buckeye fans their first national championship since 1969 and brought FCS/I-AA more attention than it has ever had. Despite all of this, Jim Tressel has VERY LITTLE to do with YSU athletics. Bo Pelini is the top hire in the history of the division and Jim Tressel is the perfect hire as President; this could never do anything but help YSU. It really does not matter to me if any of you would let your kids play for Bo, as most every other parent with kids that play at this level would love to have their kids play for a team coached by Bo. If you are going to jump up on the box of Sudso, say something about the hiring of Carl Pelini, as he is the Penguin defensive coach.
To the game/play in question, there is no such thing as tight coverage (ANYWHERE) where there is not poking and grabbing. The defenders could not turn their head any other way and then it would be a penalty. That was probably one of 2-dozen times it happened that game alone on both sides. Yet it was the only time that PI was called. I do not mind umpires having their own strike zone, but you have to be consistent in the calls. Also, where was the call was when basically the entire NDSU line jumped after the center snapped the ball early? Heck, the QB was not even ready to accept the exchange and he dropped the ball, so it is not as if the False Start was even questionable. So not only was that interference call crap, it should not have mattered. Even the NDSU announcers saw it and commented.
Also, that NDSU coach was keeping his offense on the sidelines after every single play that resulted in clock-stoppage & trying to “sneek” in different players …not a single call against them for illegal substitution even though YSU was not given any opportunity to sub-out. A Youngstown high-school would not stoop to such low-end coaching. The one time that Pelini (Carl) held the defense to try and counter this; the officials gave YSU a sideline warning, as he had to blow his whistle a 3rd-time. So since NDSU was on the sidelines even longer, why were both sides not given a warning? I am not even going to get into the time where the NDSU receiver stepped out-of-bounds or the facemask; as camera angles can look funny and maybe the head turned just before the grab …but these two are also more than questionable “no-calls”.
This type of officiating is just too flagrantly poor to just to be explained-away as “mistakes”; this is supposed to be DI collegiate football. The average fans may not have any idea how the game is supposed to be played; but if you want to pull this in Youngstown, you are going to hear about it. Call plays and violations fair!!!

All of this being said ...on to the Trees.

Delusions of grandeur....maybe you guys should join the MAC instead of going to the CAA. Either way works for me.

[Bisonator]

First of all …Clenz… what concern is any of this to you? Don’t feed me any crap about your “holier-than-thou” concern for the game of I-AA/FCS football (you will have to excuse any of my typos as I am on a kneeler with my right-hand beating my chest). This is not the first, or the second, but the 3rd-game this season where unbelievable calls have been levied again YSU, by MVFC officials. It started long before Pelini. That being said, if the officials had any worries about leaving the field …excuse me but some of that crew is local, so we do know where they live. J
Secondly, the hiring of Bo Pelini was a “freak occurrence” and it is not as if any (I mean any single) other FCS program has ever been able to hire a head coach of this caliber …you would be “tooting your horns” as obnoxiously as NDSU does their team. On top of the hiring of our head coach …our university president (a 2nd-generation Hall-of-Famer that you worthlessly try to defame) saw 10 post-seasons at the I-AA level, along with an equal number at the IA/FBS level. He took YSU to 6 national championship games in 10-years. The then he propelled Ohio State to the most dominant team in the big-10, seeing another 10 post-seasons. The only conference team close is Michigan State, coached by another former YSU Penguin. Along the way, JT gave the Buckeye fans their first national championship since 1969 and brought FCS/I-AA more attention than it has ever had. Despite all of this, Jim Tressel has VERY LITTLE to do with YSU athletics. Bo Pelini is the top hire in the history of the division and Jim Tressel is the perfect hire as President; this could never do anything but help YSU. It really does not matter to me if any of you would let your kids play for Bo, as most every other parent with kids that play at this level would love to have their kids play for a team coached by Bo. If you are going to jump up on the box of Sudso, say something about the hiring of Carl Pelini, as he is the Penguin defensive coach.
To the game/play in question, there is no such thing as tight coverage (ANYWHERE) where there is not poking and grabbing. The defenders could not turn their head any other way and then it would be a penalty. That was probably one of 2-dozen times it happened that game alone on both sides. Yet it was the only time that PI was called. I do not mind umpires having their own strike zone, but you have to be consistent in the calls. Also, where was the call was when basically the entire NDSU line jumped after the center snapped the ball early? Heck, the QB was not even ready to accept the exchange and he dropped the ball, so it is not as if the False Start was even questionable. So not only was that interference call crap, it should not have mattered. Even the NDSU announcers saw it and commented.
Also, that NDSU coach was keeping his offense on the sidelines after every single play that resulted in clock-stoppage & trying to “sneek” in different players …not a single call against them for illegal substitution even though YSU was not given any opportunity to sub-out. A Youngstown high-school would not stoop to such low-end coaching. The one time that Pelini (Carl) held the defense to try and counter this; the officials gave YSU a sideline warning, as he had to blow his whistle a 3rd-time. So since NDSU was on the sidelines even longer, why were both sides not given a warning? I am not even going to get into the time where the NDSU receiver stepped out-of-bounds or the facemask; as camera angles can look funny and maybe the head turned just before the grab …but these two are also more than questionable “no-calls”.
This type of officiating is just too flagrantly poor to just to be explained-away as “mistakes”; this is supposed to be DI collegiate football. The average fans may not have any idea how the game is supposed to be played; but if you want to pull this in Youngstown, you are going to hear about it. Call plays and violations fair!!!

All of this being said ...on to the Trees.
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[PantherRob82]

First of all …Clenz… what concern is any of this to you? Don’t feed me any crap about your “holier-than-thou” concern for the game of I-AA/FCS football (you will have to excuse any of my typos as I am on a kneeler with my right-hand beating my chest). This is not the first, or the second, but the 3rd-game this season where unbelievable calls have been levied again YSU, by MVFC officials. It started long before Pelini. That being said, if the officials had any worries about leaving the field …excuse me but some of that crew is local, so we do know where they live. J
Secondly, the hiring of Bo Pelini was a “freak occurrence” and it is not as if any (I mean any single) other FCS program has ever been able to hire a head coach of this caliber …you would be “tooting your horns” as obnoxiously as NDSU does their team. On top of the hiring of our head coach …our university president (a 2nd-generation Hall-of-Famer that you worthlessly try to defame) saw 10 post-seasons at the I-AA level, along with an equal number at the IA/FBS level. He took YSU to 6 national championship games in 10-years. The then he propelled Ohio State to the most dominant team in the big-10, seeing another 10 post-seasons. The only conference team close is Michigan State, coached by another former YSU Penguin. Along the way, JT gave the Buckeye fans their first national championship since 1969 and brought FCS/I-AA more attention than it has ever had. Despite all of this, Jim Tressel has VERY LITTLE to do with YSU athletics. Bo Pelini is the top hire in the history of the division and Jim Tressel is the perfect hire as President; this could never do anything but help YSU. It really does not matter to me if any of you would let your kids play for Bo, as most every other parent with kids that play at this level would love to have their kids play for a team coached by Bo. If you are going to jump up on the box of Sudso, say something about the hiring of Carl Pelini, as he is the Penguin defensive coach.
To the game/play in question, there is no such thing as tight coverage (ANYWHERE) where there is not poking and grabbing. The defenders could not turn their head any other way and then it would be a penalty. That was probably one of 2-dozen times it happened that game alone on both sides. Yet it was the only time that PI was called. I do not mind umpires having their own strike zone, but you have to be consistent in the calls. Also, where was the call was when basically the entire NDSU line jumped after the center snapped the ball early? Heck, the QB was not even ready to accept the exchange and he dropped the ball, so it is not as if the False Start was even questionable. So not only was that interference call crap, it should not have mattered. Even the NDSU announcers saw it and commented.
Also, that NDSU coach was keeping his offense on the sidelines after every single play that resulted in clock-stoppage & trying to “sneek” in different players …not a single call against them for illegal substitution even though YSU was not given any opportunity to sub-out. A Youngstown high-school would not stoop to such low-end coaching. The one time that Pelini (Carl) held the defense to try and counter this; the officials gave YSU a sideline warning, as he had to blow his whistle a 3rd-time. So since NDSU was on the sidelines even longer, why were both sides not given a warning? I am not even going to get into the time where the NDSU receiver stepped out-of-bounds or the facemask; as camera angles can look funny and maybe the head turned just before the grab …but these two are also more than questionable “no-calls”.
This type of officiating is just too flagrantly poor to just to be explained-away as “mistakes”; this is supposed to be DI collegiate football. The average fans may not have any idea how the game is supposed to be played; but if you want to pull this in Youngstown, you are going to hear about it. Call plays and violations fair!!!

All of this being said ...on to the Trees.

It's af#$#ing ghost!

[Missingnumber7]

First of all …Clenz… what concern is any of this to you? Don’t feed me any crap about your “holier-than-thou” concern for the game of I-AA/FCS football (you will have to excuse any of my typos as I am on a kneeler with my right-hand beating my chest). This is not the first, or the second, but the 3rd-game this season where unbelievable calls have been levied again YSU, by MVFC officials. It started long before Pelini. That being said, if the officials had any worries about leaving the field …excuse me but some of that crew is local, so we do know where they live. J
Secondly, the hiring of Bo Pelini was a “freak occurrence” and it is not as if any (I mean any single) other FCS program has ever been able to hire a head coach of this caliber …you would be “tooting your horns” as obnoxiously as NDSU does their team. On top of the hiring of our head coach …our university president (a 2nd-generation Hall-of-Famer that you worthlessly try to defame) saw 10 post-seasons at the I-AA level, along with an equal number at the IA/FBS level. He took YSU to 6 national championship games in 10-years. The then he propelled Ohio State to the most dominant team in the big-10, seeing another 10 post-seasons. The only conference team close is Michigan State, coached by another former YSU Penguin. Along the way, JT gave the Buckeye fans their first national championship since 1969 and brought FCS/I-AA more attention than it has ever had. Despite all of this, Jim Tressel has VERY LITTLE to do with YSU athletics. Bo Pelini is the top hire in the history of the division and Jim Tressel is the perfect hire as President; this could never do anything but help YSU. It really does not matter to me if any of you would let your kids play for Bo, as most every other parent with kids that play at this level would love to have their kids play for a team coached by Bo. If you are going to jump up on the box of Sudso, say something about the hiring of Carl Pelini, as he is the Penguin defensive coach.
To the game/play in question, there is no such thing as tight coverage (ANYWHERE) where there is not poking and grabbing. The defenders could not turn their head any other way and then it would be a penalty. That was probably one of 2-dozen times it happened that game alone on both sides. Yet it was the only time that PI was called. I do not mind umpires having their own strike zone, but you have to be consistent in the calls. Also, where was the call was when basically the entire NDSU line jumped after the center snapped the ball early? Heck, the QB was not even ready to accept the exchange and he dropped the ball, so it is not as if the False Start was even questionable. So not only was that interference call crap, it should not have mattered. Even the NDSU announcers saw it and commented.
Also, that NDSU coach was keeping his offense on the sidelines after every single play that resulted in clock-stoppage & trying to “sneek” in different players …not a single call against them for illegal substitution even though YSU was not given any opportunity to sub-out. A Youngstown high-school would not stoop to such low-end coaching. The one time that Pelini (Carl) held the defense to try and counter this; the officials gave YSU a sideline warning, as he had to blow his whistle a 3rd-time. So since NDSU was on the sidelines even longer, why were both sides not given a warning? I am not even going to get into the time where the NDSU receiver stepped out-of-bounds or the facemask; as camera angles can look funny and maybe the head turned just before the grab …but these two are also more than questionable “no-calls”.
This type of officiating is just too flagrantly poor to just to be explained-away as “mistakes”; this is supposed to be DI collegiate football. The average fans may not have any idea how the game is supposed to be played; but if you want to pull this in Youngstown, you are going to hear about it. Call plays and violations fair!!!

All of this being said ...on to the Trees.
Hey way to bring up a dead horse for beating.

1. I don't know what the 3rd game you are referring to getting screwed by but I can tell you absolutely that the ISUR calls were right on and were proven with video replay. The batting out of bounds is not a penalty because it was backwards and is not a new force and is not in the endzone. So unless you are digging more crap out of that game then you just don't comprehend officiating. I'm not going to go through what has already been explained in the thread because if you haven't read it the first time...I'm not going to beat you over the head with a stick because it hasn't worked on the other pages.

2. It isn't about kids playing for your coach or my kid playing for your coach. Its about your coach knowing the rules and not being a whiny bitch. He will continue, he will call your fan base fickle and then he will take some G5 job because he wants back into FBS.

3. Nothing NDSU does substitution wise is against the rules, the officials missed one spot to hold up, but on the play that was flagged for 12 on the field I did not see NDSU sub.

4. If you think the officiating is bad now, what did you think of it when NDSU first joined the conference. Because it was a joke then. As a college FB official the MVFC has the best feeder system for college officials of all the FCS conference. The Midwest consortium pulls from guys that are scheduled for Big Ten/MAC and MVFC crews. Meaning that crews are working to make it to the Big Ten. But I'm sure you have 500 years of officiating experience and know way more than any of the guys on the field, especially why a jersey pull on a WR trying to go after a pass should never be called because hand fighting occurs. You want to badmouth the officials, maybe you should look at the bafoons you have on your sideline and in the stands. If I ever saw an NDSU coach chase an official off the field after the game I would hope my university would address the situation, but you had multiple, plus people on the sideline. I could go on, but you've got the rest of the offseason to stew.

[Bison56]

"the entire NDSU line jumped after the center snapped the ball early?"


LOL that's my favorite part.

[Bisonator]

"the entire NDSU line jumped after the center snapped the ball early?"


LOL that's my favorite part.

I know. Should have been a false start on the center for snapping the ball! xlolx

[Professor Chaos]

"the entire NDSU line jumped after the center snapped the ball early?"


LOL that's my favorite part.
"Bo Pelini is the top hire in the history of the division" is right up there for me too.

[Bison56]

"Bo Pelini is the top hire in the history of the division" is right up there for me too.

Yeah that is right up there.

[clenz]

I'm not reading that novel. He has shown his ignorance many times when it comes to football. Can someone bullet point that?

[Bison56]

I'm not reading that novel. He has shown his ignorance many times when it comes to football. Can someone bullet point that?

"Bo Pelini is the top hire in the history of the division and Jim Tressel is the perfect hire as President"

[Bisonator]

I'm not reading that novel. He has shown his ignorance many times when it comes to football. Can someone bullet point that?

1. clenz is a big meany.

2. Our guy is the greatest.

3. We've been robbed all season by the refs.

4. Everyone hates us.

5. It's a conspiracy.

[BisonFan02]

I'm not reading that novel. He has shown his ignorance many times when it comes to football. Can someone bullet point that?

His critical points in bold..... xlolx


First of all …Clenz… what concern is any of this to you? Don’t feed me any crap about your “holier-than-thou” concern for the game of I-AA/FCS football (you will have to excuse any of my typos as I am on a kneeler with my right-hand beating my chest). This is not the first, or the second, but the 3rd-game this season where unbelievable calls have been levied again YSU, by MVFC officials. It started long before Pelini. That being said, if the officials had any worries about leaving the field …excuse me but some of that crew is local, so we do know where they live. J
Secondly, the hiring of Bo Pelini was a “freak occurrence” and it is not as if any (I mean any single) other FCS program has ever been able to hire a head coach of this caliber …you would be “tooting your horns” as obnoxiously as NDSU does their team. On top of the hiring of our head coach …our university president (a 2nd-generation Hall-of-Famer that you worthlessly try to defame) saw 10 post-seasons at the I-AA level, along with an equal number at the IA/FBS level. He took YSU to 6 national championship games in 10-years. The then he propelled Ohio State to the most dominant team in the big-10, seeing another 10 post-seasons. The only conference team close is Michigan State, coached by another former YSU Penguin. Along the way, JT gave the Buckeye fans their first national championship since 1969 and brought FCS/I-AA more attention than it has ever had. Despite all of this, Jim Tressel has VERY LITTLE to do with YSU athletics. Bo Pelini is the top hire in the history of the division and Jim Tressel is the perfect hire as President; this could never do anything but help YSU. It really does not matter to me if any of you would let your kids play for Bo, as most every other parent with kids that play at this level would love to have their kids play for a team coached by Bo. If you are going to jump up on the box of Sudso, say something about the hiring of Carl Pelini, as he is the Penguin defensive coach.
To the game/play in question, there is no such thing as tight coverage (ANYWHERE) where there is not poking and grabbing. The defenders could not turn their head any other way and then it would be a penalty. That was probably one of 2-dozen times it happened that game alone on both sides. Yet it was the only time that PI was called. I do not mind umpires having their own strike zone, but you have to be consistent in the calls. Also, where was the call was when basically the entire NDSU line jumped after the center snapped the ball early? Heck, the QB was not even ready to accept the exchange and he dropped the ball, so it is not as if the False Start was even questionable. So not only was that interference call crap, it should not have mattered. Even the NDSU announcers saw it and commented.
Also, that NDSU coach was keeping his offense on the sidelines after every single play that resulted in clock-stoppage & trying to “sneek” in different players …not a single call against them for illegal substitution even though YSU was not given any opportunity to sub-out. A Youngstown high-school would not stoop to such low-end coaching. The one time that Pelini (Carl) held the defense to try and counter this; the officials gave YSU a sideline warning, as he had to blow his whistle a 3rd-time. So since NDSU was on the sidelines even longer, why were both sides not given a warning? I am not even going to get into the time where the NDSU receiver stepped out-of-bounds or the facemask; as camera angles can look funny and maybe the head turned just before the grab …but these two are also more than questionable “no-calls”.
This type of officiating is just too flagrantly poor to just to be explained-away as “mistakes”; this is supposed to be DI collegiate football. The average fans may not have any idea how the game is supposed to be played; but if you want to pull this in Youngstown, you are going to hear about it. Call plays and violations fair!!!

All of this being said ...on to the Trees

TL;DR version:

The MVFC officials hate YSU.....Bo Pelini is the top hire in the history of FCS....Jim Tressel is Jesus....and the center snapping the ball early is a false start.....

[Missingnumber7]

I'm not reading that novel. He has shown his ignorance many times when it comes to football. Can someone bullet point that?

"The rest of the MVFC are average fans may not have any idea how the game is supposed to be played; but if you want to pull this in Youngstown, you are going to hear about it. Call plays and violations fair!!!"

[Bisonator]

His critical points in bold..... xlolx



TL;DR version:

The MVFC officials hate YSU.....Bo Pelini is the top hire in the history of FCS....Jim Tressel is Jesus....and the center snapping the ball early is a false start.....

You forgot the most important one and his first point: clenz is a big meany!xlolx

[BisonFan02]

You forgot the most important one and his first point: clenz is a big meany!xlolx

Well......he is, no? xlolx

[Missingnumber7]

1. clenz is a big meany.

2. Our guy is the greatest.

3. We've been robbed all season by the refs.

4. Everyone hates us.

5. It's a conspiracy.

You missed one.

6. We used to be really good, you might have heard of us.

[herd13]

That being said, if the officials had any worries about leaving the field …excuse me but some of that crew is local, so we do know where they live.

Wow, this statement doesn't sound borderline psychotic at all.....

I remember in junior high when I complained about refs to my dad and I believe all I got from that was a "suck it up, kid."

[PantherRob82]

His critical points in bold..... xlolx



TL;DR version:

The MVFC officials hate YSU.....Bo Pelini is the top hire in the history of FCS....Jim Tressel is Jesus....and the center snapping the ball early is a false start.....

You can call false start on the center...

[herd13]

You can call false start on the center...

Not if he actually snaps the ball within the same motion...

[BisonFan02]

You can call false start on the center...

Sure you can....but not for snapping the football when the QB isn't ready. It isn't like the guy flinched....he just snapped the ball.

[Missingnumber7]

Wow, this statement doesn't sound borderline psychotic at all.....

I remember in junior high when I complained about refs to my dad and I believe all I got from that was a "suck it up, kid."

I once told a ref he was f(*&ing blind in junior high...he was my coach in 9th grade.

[herd13]

I once told a ref he was f(*&ing blind in junior high...he was my coach in 9th grade.

Best thing I've heard all day!

[Missingnumber7]

Best thing I've heard all day!

Oh, and now I do a ton of reffing.

[Thumper 76]

I have no idea what you're talking about with the majority of your bitching about calls/no calls but given your take on the play where PI was called I'm not going to put too much stock in your appraisal of the rest of the game. Like FargoBison said, there was no false start and the replay showed that. Beyond that the PI was obvious to anyone who's not a YSU conspiracy theorist. There's multiple angles that show the DB was tugging the WR's jersey hard enough to gain leverage, which gives himself an advantage and that's the definition of PI.

Angles that were OBVIOUSLY doctored by the dark forces of the NDSU athletic department, in order to cover that they paid of the officials.

[Bisonator]

Angles that were OBVIOUSLY doctored by the dark forces of the NDSU athletic department, in order to cover that they paid of the officials.

well duh. Years ago YSU had the money from the steel mills. Now it's our turn with the oil money! Oh wait oil's down to $40 a barrel. ****!xlolx

[Professor Chaos]

Angles that were OBVIOUSLY doctored by the dark forces of the NDSU athletic department, in order to cover that they paid of the officials.
It's the American way!

[Sycamore62]

1. Id love to pile on Clenz being full of crap but holy **** this post was unfuc**ng believeable.

2. If the center snaps the ball first its nothing. no matter how stupid or ready anyone else on the field is. if he double pumps it, its illegal.

3. Officiating is about the same for all these teams.

4. Tressel is a cheater. Probably unqualified to be the president there or he is proving that it is not an important position and it should probably be done by a robot.

5. maybe we should start a thread on FCS hires that were better than Bo Pelini. Id start with Howard Schnellenberger but Ill let the rest of you guys pile on.

6. I was a little apathetic to our game tomorrow but now Ive been motivated to care.

[PantherRob82]

1. Id love to pile on Clenz being full of crap but holy **** this post was unfuc**ng believeable.

2. If the center snaps the ball first its nothing. no matter how stupid or ready anyone else on the field is. if he double pumps it, its illegal.

3. Officiating is about the same for all these teams.

4. Tressel is a cheater. Probably unqualified to be the president there or he is proving that it is not an important position and it should probably be done by a robot.

5. maybe we should start a thread on FCS hires that were better than Bo Pelini. Id start with Howard Schnellenberger but Ill let the rest of you guys pile on.

6. I was a little apathetic to our game tomorrow but now Ive been motivated to care.

YSU is the team I want to love, but most of their posters make me hate.

[clenz]

1. clenz is a big meany.

2. Our guy is the greatest.

3. We've been robbed all season by the refs.

4. Everyone hates us.

5. It's a conspiracy.

That's what I figured it was.

All five points are the top five talking points of all YSU posters....,in that order

[clenz]

Well......he is, no? xlolx

Sit on it

[Missingnumber7]

I finally found the 12 man penalty 2:37 mark in the game. I doesnt matter if NDSU substituted or not. They huddled. The protection for subs is not extended when the team huddles unless they sub after the huddle was broken.

[I-AA Fan]

1. clenz is a big meany.

2. Our guy is the greatest.

3. We've been robbed all season by the refs.

4. Everyone hates us.

5. It's a conspiracy.


1. Not at all. Never said anything of the sort. If I did an "ass" would be more like something that I would say.
2. Never said any such thing either. Don't much care for the man at all, but as long as he is here at a price we can afford, good for us.
3. No, but have not been helped either. Love how the ILS fan assumes that is one of the game that I was talking about, that is how obvious it was, and yes, the batting was not a foul, just placement.
4. Not at all. They are all happy (aside from SDSU) that they will not have to face YSU in the post-season.

As far as having all off-season to stew??? Heck, I was not even simmering by the snap of the ball on next play & could care less now. Your absolute ignorance of the game FCS is what caused me to post.

[clenz]

1. Not at all. Never said anything of the sort. If I did an "ass" would be more like something that I would say.
2. Never said any such thing either. Don't much care for the man at all, but as long as he is here at a price we can afford, good for us.
3. No, but have not been helped either. Love how the ILS fan assumes that is one of the game that I was talking about, that is how obvious it was, and yes, the batting was not a foul, just placement.
4. Not at all. They are all happy (aside from SDSU) that they will not have to face YSU in the post-season.

As far as having all off-season to stew??? Heck, I was not even simmering by the snap of the ball on next play & could care less now. Your absolute ignorance of the game FCS is what caused me to post.
Aren't you the one that mentioned no one knows who NDSU is?

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[Lehigh'98]

Never in the history of football has bitching about bad calls changed anything. Kind of suprised the YSU fans have taken the ref thing as far as they have this year.

[crossfire07]

Never been impressed with Youngstown fans either. Cooking hot dogs at a National Championship game is not tailgating and crying over an animated coach sticking up for your boys is hilarious. Maybe you should get your previous coach back. :)

[TheRevSFA]

If it hasn't been mentioned, @fauxpelini on Twitter is amazing

[ValleyTalk]

Never been impressed with Youngstown fans either. Cooking hot dogs at a National Championship game is not tailgating and crying over an animated coach sticking up for your boys is hilarious. Maybe you should get your previous coach back. :) Who cares about what we cooked for tailgating, all that matters is the final score:

YSU 10
McNeese State 9

[TennBison]

"Bo Pelini is the top hire in the history of the division" is right up there for me too.

How about Jerry Glanville when he was hired at Portland State, former NFL head coach is a way bigger hire even than Bo Pe.

[Sycamore62]

Bo just got another one bitching about a bad call

[clenz]

What a ****ing joke he is

[PantherRob82]

What a ****ing joke he is

No, he is the best hire ever. xrolleyesx

[TheKingpin28]

So watch ESPN decided to switch that "channel" to ESPN Goal line! Come on man! Oh well, I can only imagine how much he is blowing up. At least I got the eSECpn and can watch The Citadel currently beating SC late in the 4th.

[clenz]

It's one thing to ride an official. It's another to act like he does

The conference has let every official know that Bo is tone on a 6 inch leash. He will get one of those a game from here on out during his time in Youngstown if he doesn't drastically change

[Hammerhead]

Maybe he wants to get another contract bought out so he can collect two paychecks for not coaching? :-p

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

5-6 in year one. I would have lost money on the over if you set total at 6.5 before the year.....

[Bison56]

Like a child having a temper tantrum.

[Sycamore62]

Maybe he wants to get another contract bought out so he can collect two paychecks for not coaching? :-p

He would be like an actor getting residuals.

[penguinpower]

The incomplete pass was a fumble.

[Cleets]

I think we can all agree:
If you struggle with a 4 win team you're probably not a playoff caliber organization...

[Sycamore62]

The incomplete pass was a fumble.

Agreed. At the game you have time to pull up watch ESPN and watch the previous 2 plays so I did that.....then started heckling him.

[BisonFan02]

Youngstown St. doing Youngstown St. things......losing football games in November

[NoCoDanny]

He was right though, the refs were a disgrace... I'd be checking their bank accounts that was a suspicious call and no call...

[Professor Chaos]

Alright what happened? Another Pelini blow up? If so, I'd stop wondering if I was a YSU fan (or coach) about why YSU never seems to get the benefit of the doubt with officials. Perhaps you reap what you (or more specifically your head coach) sows?

[Sycamore62]

It was a pass. The ISU QB had his arm back. When he went to throw the ball it came out of his hand a little and his arm went forward kind of batting it forward. Ysu picked it up and would have gone in. The HL blew it dead. It looked like an incomplete to me when it happened live.

Bad ad calls all year long all around. How many UCs did the rest of the coaches get?

[SoupCity85]

It's one thing to ride an official. It's another to act like he does

The conference has let every official know that Bo is tone on a 6 inch leash. He will get one of those a game from here on out during his time in Youngstown if he doesn't drastically change

Clenz, you are probably a bigger D#*$ than Bo is, but I absolutely agree with you this time. He'll be his own worst enemy and never get a break from the officials. And the funniest part of that, he doesn't give a **** enough to change his ways. Most YSU fans call that "passion", this one calls "stupidity."

[penguinpower]

Alright what happened? Another Pelini blow up? If so, I'd stop wondering if I was a YSU fan (or coach) about why YSU never seems to get the benefit of the doubt with officials. Perhaps you reap what you (or more specifically your head coach) sows?

Pelini behaved. His brother didn't

[penguinpower]

He was right though, the refs were a disgrace... I'd be checking their bank accounts that was a suspicious call and no call...

This has happened to YSU on so many occasions over the last few years it makes the 3 fans that are left point it out only to be heckled.

[Sycamore62]

It looked like Bo but they never said at the game. He was bitching about everything or bitchijg about that call after every play for a quarter or so

[clenz]

Clenz, you are probably a bigger D#*$ than Bo is, but I absolutely agree with you this time. He'll be his own worst enemy and never get a break from the officials. And the funniest part of that, he doesn't give a **** enough to change his ways. Most YSU fans call that "passion", this one calls "stupidity."
Your first sentence is completely false? Want to know how I know? I never picked a unsportsmanlike penalty, let along a standard personal foul, up in my 10 years playing competitive football. Bo has 2 in 2 weeks. I've also never been run out of a job, simply because I was an asshole. I've never screamed at my co-workers to the very edge of a self induced aneurysm. I coached and managed to never scream myself into an aneurysm towards any of my players. I never chased an official down the sideline screaming "GET YOUR ASS OVER HERE" multiple times and finishing that "conversation" with "YOU ****ING COWARD!" You may not like how honest I am about your program. That's perfectly fine. I'm nowhere near a dick.

I know YSU fans #1 talking point is I'm a meany and a hater, but it simply isn't true.

I'm glad you agree with me though. The reality is every single official that works for the MVFC has been instructed to keep him on the shortest leash possible. He will continue to get UC penalties every game. He, and by proxy YSU fans, will continue to believe that the officials, and conference, have it out for them. It will continue to create a vicious cycle of excuses and hate by YSU fans.

The ****ty part is the conference doesn't have the guts to actually suspend him for his actions. They will "reprimand" him but we all know that means he got a 2 sentence e-mail telling him he was bad and to not do it again.

People, as you pointed out,F mistake what he does as "fighting for his players" and "having passion". What he has is an extreme anger problem, and seriously needs to see someone about it. He doesn't scream and turn his face the same color as YSU's helmets because he's fighting for his players. He's doing it because he has some sort of complex and anger issues.

I'm a B10 fan. I live in Iowa. I grew up around Husker fans by where I grew up. I've watch him for years. I've watched how Iowa/Iowa State fans react to him. It's been a front row seat over here. That's not fighting for his players. 9-4 at Nebraska isn't "acceptable" because they live in the same *It's still the 90s and people should bow to us* world that YSU lives in. Nebraska's admin may have been willing to give him another year or two if he wasn't a complete, and utter, f-bag

[penguinpower]

Youngstown St. doing Youngstown St. things......losing football games in November

YSU wins if they don't get that call

- - - Updated - - -


Your first sentence is completely false? Want to know how I know? I never picked a unsportsmanlike penalty, let along a standard personal foul, up in my 10 years playing competitive football. Bo has 2 in 2 weeks. I've also never been run out of a job, simply because I was an asshole. I've never screamed at my co-workers to the very edge of a self induced aneurysm. I coached and managed to never scream myself into an aneurysm towards any of my players. I never chased an official down the sideline screaming "GET YOUR ASS OVER HERE" multiple times and finishing that "conversation" with "YOU ****ING COWARD!" You may not like how honest I am about your program. That's perfectly fine. I'm nowhere near a dick.

I know YSU fans #1 talking point is I'm a meany and a hater, but it simply isn't true.

I'm glad you agree with me though. The reality is every single official that works for the MVFC has been instructed to keep him on the shortest leash possible. He will continue to get UC penalties every game. He, and by proxy YSU fans, will continue to believe that the officials, and conference, have it out for them. It will continue to create a vicious cycle of excuses and hate by YSU fans.

The ****ty part is the conference doesn't have the guts to actually suspend him for his actions. They will "reprimand" him but we all know that means he got a 2 sentence e-mail telling him he was bad and to not do it again.

People, as you pointed out,F mistake what he does as "fighting for his players" and "having passion". What he has is an extreme anger problem, and seriously needs to see someone about it. He doesn't scream and turn his face the same color as YSU's helmets because he's fighting for his players. He's doing it because he has some sort of complex and anger issues.

I'm a B10 fan. I live in Iowa. I grew up around Husker fans by where I grew up. I've watch him for years. I've watched how Iowa/Iowa State fans react to him. It's been a front row seat over here. That's not fighting for his players. 9-4 at Nebraska isn't "acceptable" because they live in the same *It's still the 90s and people should bow to us* world that YSU lives in. Nebraska's admin may have been willing to give him another year or two if he wasn't a complete, and utter, f-bag


You sick liberal bastard

[clenz]

O....kay?

[Professor Chaos]

Your first sentence is completely false? Want to know how I know? I never picked a unsportsmanlike penalty, let along a standard personal foul, up in my 10 years playing competitive football. Bo has 2 in 2 weeks. I've also never been run out of a job, simply because I was an asshole. I've never screamed at my co-workers to the very edge of a self induced aneurysm. I coached and managed to never scream myself into an aneurysm towards any of my players. I never chased an official down the sideline screaming "GET YOUR ASS OVER HERE" multiple times and finishing that "conversation" with "YOU ****ING COWARD!" You may not like how honest I am about your program. That's perfectly fine. I'm nowhere near a dick.

I know YSU fans #1 talking point is I'm a meany and a hater, but it simply isn't true.

I'm glad you agree with me though. The reality is every single official that works for the MVFC has been instructed to keep him on the shortest leash possible. He will continue to get UC penalties every game. He, and by proxy YSU fans, will continue to believe that the officials, and conference, have it out for them. It will continue to create a vicious cycle of excuses and hate by YSU fans.

The ****ty part is the conference doesn't have the guts to actually suspend him for his actions. They will "reprimand" him but we all know that means he got a 2 sentence e-mail telling him he was bad and to not do it again.

People, as you pointed out,F mistake what he does as "fighting for his players" and "having passion". What he has is an extreme anger problem, and seriously needs to see someone about it. He doesn't scream and turn his face the same color as YSU's helmets because he's fighting for his players. He's doing it because he has some sort of complex and anger issues.

I'm a B10 fan. I live in Iowa. I grew up around Husker fans by where I grew up. I've watch him for years. I've watched how Iowa/Iowa State fans react to him. It's been a front row seat over here. That's not fighting for his players. 9-4 at Nebraska isn't "acceptable" because they live in the same *It's still the 90s and people should bow to us* world that YSU lives in. Nebraska's admin may have been willing to give him another year or two if he wasn't a complete, and utter, f-bag
Yeah, but you hate cats :p

[clenz]

Yeah, but you hate cats :p
I had 2 of them growing up.

My high school football team was a member of the feline family.
My college is a member of the feline family.
My favorite animal is the black panther family - see a thread I posted about it on a couple weeks ago

Really, if I wasn't allergic to them I wouldn't mind them

Now, penguins on the other hand. **** those things. What purpose do they serve?

[BisonBacker]

1. Not at all. Never said anything of the sort. If I did an "ass" would be more like something that I would say.
2. Never said any such thing either. Don't much care for the man at all, but as long as he is here at a price we can afford, good for us.
3. No, but have not been helped either. Love how the ILS fan assumes that is one of the game that I was talking about, that is how obvious it was, and yes, the batting was not a foul, just placement.
4. Not at all. They are all happy (aside from SDSU) that they will not have to face YSU in the post-season.

As far as having all off-season to stew??? Heck, I was not even simmering by the snap of the ball on next play & could care less now. Your absolute ignorance of the game FCS is what caused me to post.

This is gold coming from the guy who doesn't know a false start from his ass.

[Sycamore62]

YSU wins if they don't get that call



Assuming that everything else in the game had gone exactaly like it did from there out.

[penguinpower]

It looked like Bo but they never said at the game. He was bitching about everything or bitchijg about that call after every play for a quarter or so

It was his brother Carl. That bull**** needs to stop

[BisonBacker]

I had 2 of them growing up.

My high school football team was a member of the feline family.
My college is a member of the feline family.
My favorite animal is the black panther family - see a thread I posted about it on a couple weeks ago

Really, if I wasn't allergic to them I wouldn't mind them

Now, penguins on the other hand. **** those things. What purpose do they serve?

You take candy from babies.

[BisonBacker]

It was his brother Carl. That bull**** needs to stop

Temper tantrums & anger management issues run in that family.

[clenz]

You take candy from babies.

That's not false. My 2.5 year old and 2 month old cleaned up on Halloween. They take after their mom and are incredibly adorable. I then took all the good stuff after they went to bed. Some as we were walking around even

[JayJ79]

false start from his ass.
sounds like a football-esque way to describe a "shart"

[Cocky]

I'm glad you agree with me though. The reality is every single official that works for the MVFC has been instructed to keep him on the shortest leash possible. He will continue to get UC penalties every game. He, and by proxy YSU fans, will continue to believe that the officials, and conference, have it out for them. It will continue to create a vicious cycle of excuses and hate by YSU fans.



If he and his staff are treated any differently than their opponent or have been instructed to, the YSU fans are most likely correct is their doubts of fairness. If his actions didnt warrant suspension then the matter should have been dropped by official or they have crossed the line of professionalism.

[clenz]

If he and his staff are treated any differently than their opponent or have been instructed to, the YSU fans are most likely correct is their doubts of fairness. If his actions didnt warrant suspension then the matter should have been dropped by official or they have crossed the line of professionalism.
There's a difference between fair and equal.

He, and his staff, will be treated fairly by the officials. They will not, and should not, be treated with the same equality when it comes to a leash for UC calls due to past history.

[Cocky]

There's a difference between fair and equal.

He, and his staff, will be treated fairly by the officials. They will not, and should not, be treated with the same equality when it comes to a leash for UC calls due to past history.

Not disagree with your assessment of the matter but officials should strive to be equal not fair. The playing field should be level for both teams. Giving a penalty to one team that wouldnt warrant a penalty for the other is unfair and unequal and a disgrace to the game.

[Professor Chaos]

Not disagree with your assessment of the matter but officials should strive to be equal not fair. The playing field should be level for both teams. Giving a penalty to one team that wouldnt warrant a penalty for the other is unfair and unequal and a disgrace to the game.
I agree with clenz here, Pelini will have the "Suh effect" going forward for him. Whether officials do it consciously or not he's going to more closely scrutinized than any other coach in the conference when it comes to being critical of the officiating. Like Suh he has only himself to blame for that.

[Missingnumber7]

Not disagree with your assessment of the matter but officials should strive to be equal not fair. The playing field should be level for both teams. Giving a penalty to one team that wouldnt warrant a penalty for the other is unfair and unequal and a disgrace to the game.

Its not about fair and equal, its about treating the official like a human being. If you don't I'm a lot quicker to drop sideline infractions and UNS flags.

[Cocky]

Its not about fair and equal, its about treating the official like a human being. If you don't I'm a lot quicker to drop sideline infractions and UNS flags.

Then you should not be an official. You are effecting the outcome of a game if one teams has different standards to meet than the other team.
If a coach or player cross the line he should be flagged no matter which team he is a member.

[Sycamore62]

Then you should not be an official. You are effecting the outcome of a game if one teams has different standards to meet than the other team.
If a coach or player cross the line he should be flagged no matter which team he is a member.
It's either sportsmanlike or its unsportsmanlike. If the officials have discussed what they will tolerate before the game they wouldn't have a problem throwing that foul on either coach.

Just like if they said watch out for player xx. He always pushes off....

[Missingnumber7]

Then you should not be an official. You are effecting the outcome of a game if one teams has different standards to meet than the other team.
If a coach or player cross the line he should be flagged no matter which team he is a member.

So your professional officiating experience tells you everything is fair and equal? Pull your head out of your arse and smell the roses. The game is officiated by the content on the field, which is hardly ever equal. There are more 50/50 calls that are let go by officials, but if you are going to sit and chew my ass about something that I have explained to you 10 times already, and you have no concept of the rule, then I'm going to start throwing those 50/50 flags. You are already on me about dumb crap anyway, whats a little more, and the instant you cross the line with me you then get that UNS. And if you don't think it happens that way then you have never officiated, and don't pay attention on Fridays/Saturdays/Sundays/or Mondays. You can tell when an official has had enough and becomes very picky. That is a large part of the reason they switch sides at halftime. It is our responsibility that the game is played within the rules, fair and equal are two words that I don't talk about on the field, and are two words that a coach would use and would get him in trouble very quickly.

[Missingnumber7]

It's either sportsmanlike or its unsportsmanlike. If the officials have discussed what they will tolerate before the game they wouldn't have a problem throwing that foul on either coach.

Just like if they said watch out for player xx. He always pushes off....

Coaches ask for stuff all the time. I put up with a lot of crap in the college games I work. But I have never had a coach call me a coward, let along swear before that.

I did however see a HC and OC about come to blows at one point in time during a game this year.

[Cocky]

So your professional officiating experience tells you everything is fair and equal? Pull your head out of your arse and smell the roses. The game is officiated by the content on the field, which is hardly ever equal. There are more 50/50 calls that are let go by officials, but if you are going to sit and chew my ass about something that I have explained to you 10 times already, and you have no concept of the rule, then I'm going to start throwing those 50/50 flags. You are already on me about dumb crap anyway, whats a little more, and the instant you cross the line with me you then get that UNS. And if you don't think it happens that way then you have never officiated, and don't pay attention on Fridays/Saturdays/Sundays/or Mondays. You can tell when an official has had enough and becomes very picky. That is a large part of the reason they switch sides at halftime. It is our responsibility that the game is played within the rules, fair and equal are two words that I don't talk about on the field, and are two words that a coach would use and would get him in trouble very quickly.

My head isnt in my ass but you have proven that Coaches have to deal with unprofessional official who feel it is they right to affect the outcome of a game. If you cant set the standards the same for both teams you need to consider changing professions because your a cheater.

[Sycamore62]

Coaches ask for stuff all the time. I put up with a lot of crap in the college games I work. But I have never had a coach call me a coward, let along swear before that.

I did however see a HC and OC about come to blows at one point in time during a game this year.

Just to be clear, I'm agreeing with you. I did high school and a little entry level D3 stuff. I decided if I moved up I would likely never get to go to the games I wanted to watch lol

[Sycamore62]

My head isnt in my ass but you have proven that Coaches have to deal with unprofessional official who feel it is they right to affect the outcome of a game. If you cant set the standards the same for both teams you need to consider changing professions because your a cheater.

I would bet the standards are the same for both teams. If Pelini has a reputation then it's his own fault.

[clenz]

My head isnt in my ass but you have proven that Coaches have to deal with unprofessional official who feel it is they right to affect the outcome of a game. If you cant set the standards the same for both teams you need to consider changing professions because your a cheater.
If a coach is so unprofessional he's calling officials a ****ing coward he deserves to be suspended and tossed...especially when those actions happen week after week after week.

[Sycamore62]

Maybe the official should respond "you're a pretty good defensive position coach"

[Cocky]

If a coach is so unprofessional he's calling officials a ****ing coward he deserves to be suspended and tossed...especially when those actions happen week after week after week.
I agree he should have been tossed from the game. But the standards should be the same for the other coach also.
When you have a guy posting, who claims to be a official and I have no reason to not believe him, he chooses side in a game and give one the 50/50 calls and not the other its wrong. The game deserves more respect from everyone participating. The players on both teams work their tails off then you got some official playing god and deciding the winner isnt right.

[Missingnumber7]

My head isnt in my ass but you have proven that Coaches have to deal with unprofessional official who feel it is they right to affect the outcome of a game. If you cant set the standards the same for both teams you need to consider changing professions because your a cheater.

LMAO...Definitely have never officiated...as an idealist you see the rules as something that is written in black and white, do you argue for every hold that happens, even when its a sweep to the stong side and the back side tugs a little jersey?

Definitely am not a cheater either, coaches have leashes...the more of an arse you are the shorter the leash becomes and the more of a letter of the law guy I become. It is a two way street. A coach needs to work with their sideline official for several reasons but mostly because that huge grey area written in the rules is something that I usually talk to a coach about. If he isn't willing to work with me or is constantly arguing about every call, weather I threw the flag or not (The DPI Pellini incident) than instead of talking to the coach about it. I might let it go that time, and then throw it the next time instead of talking to the coach, telling him if I see it again I'm going to flag it, and then flagging it. Its not cheating, we call that preventative officiating for the most part.

[Missingnumber7]

I agree he should have been tossed from the game. But the standards should be the same for the other coach also.
When you have a guy posting, who claims to be a official and I have no reason to not believe him, he chooses side in a game and give one the 50/50 calls and not the other its wrong. The game deserves more respect from everyone participating. The players on both teams work their tails off then you got some official playing god and deciding the winner isnt right.

Read what I wrote again. I never said I chose a side in a game. I say that if you are treating me like crap I'm going to call the game by the letter of the law. And by no way does an official, minus the guys in the Miami/Duke game, decide a winner.

[Cocky]

Read what I wrote again. I never said I chose a side in a game. I say that if you are treating me like crap I'm going to call the game by the letter of the law. And by no way does an official, minus the guys in the Miami/Duke game, decide a winner.
I read and read the next post and you blatantly admit you call different. If you let others select your level of integrity you need to refocus. Players on the teams have no choice in the coaches they play for sometimes but your going to treat them differently? I understand you have feeling and dont like for some one to bruise them but quit if it hurts too bad.

[Missingnumber7]

If a coach is so unprofessional he's calling officials a ****ing coward he deserves to be suspended and tossed...especially when those actions happen week after week after week.

The problem with this whole ordeal is with College coaches the NCAA in their infinite wisdom has decided that the only thing a coach can be disqualified from the game for is flagrant contact with an official, unlike most level and the players which states that 2 UNS penalties results in ejection.

I have thought that the sideline officials this year have done a great job for the most part in the MVFC. A prime example was the UNI/NDSU game after the late hit penalty on 4th down. The official was right there explaining to Farley and working with him, you would have seen him give Farley his space and then come back and talk to him on the next issue.

The hard part gets to be when you have a coach that gets stuck on something that happened a long time ago and that's all you hear about. That's probably the biggest reason Bo go the first UNS. I've had a guy catch me right away in the second half, we switch at halftime, and start going off on something that happened in the first half. I had a short discussion and we agreed to move on and make this half the best we could, but he was really frustrated. I understand where coaches come from and I dislike very much throwing flags on a coach or sideline because that makes my job more difficult than it already is.

[Missingnumber7]

I read and read the next post and you blatantly admit you call different. If you let others select your level of integrity you need to refocus. Players on the teams have no choice in the coaches they play for sometimes but your going to treat them differently? I understand you have feeling and dont like for some one to bruise them but quit if it hurts too bad.

Just like I as an official don't have any choice in what games I work and what teams I see. I work hard at what I do as well.

I give everyone the start on the same page, some coaches you have to treat with kid gloves, some act like adults and some act like idiots. It is my responsibility to enforce the rules and I have the ability to allow some things to pass and call others. Not every hold, is something I am going to throw my flag on. Am I cheating then too? Am I deciding the game at that point as well? It works both ways. If you honestly think that there are less than 30 fouls that occur during a football game than you are kidding yourself. It is specifically our position to make sure that no one gains an advantage that is outside the rules, and that everyone plays with a sportsman like attitude. In NAIA this year they were asking officials to flag players using profanity of the football field. Imagine that nightmare.

[Cocky]

Just like I as an official don't have any choice in what games I work and what teams I see. I work hard at what I do as well.

I give everyone the start on the same page, some coaches you have to treat with kid gloves, some act like adults and some act like idiots. It is my responsibility to enforce the rules and I have the ability to allow some things to pass and call others. Not every hold, is something I am going to throw my flag on. Am I cheating then too? Am I deciding the game at that point as well? It works both ways. If you honestly think that there are less than 30 fouls that occur during a football game than you are kidding yourself. It is specifically our position to make sure that no one gains an advantage that is outside the rules, and that everyone plays with a sportsman like attitude. In NAIA this year they were asking officials to flag players using profanity of the football field. Imagine that nightmare.

No problem with anything in this post. I dont believe every hold should be called or other things at times. I do believe the situation in which these calls are made or not made should be the same for both teams no matter the who is coaching. An official or anyone should strive to be as unbiased no matter the circumstances or you are lowering yourself to their level.

I do hope my reading comprehension skills are just too low and the above post dont mean what Im comprehending.

[Missingnumber7]

No problem with anything in this post. I dont believe every hold should be called or other things at times. I do believe the situation in which these calls are made or not made should be the same for both teams no matter the who is coaching. An official or anyone should strive to be as unbiased no matter the circumstances or you are lowering yourself to their level.

I do hope my reading comprehension skills are just too low and the above post dont mean what Im comprehending.

I guess I'm not saying I go out and think...I'm going to screw this guy over. We watch video every week and you can tell when coaches get on us and are getting on our nerves because we will either call something really tight or miss a call. I think its all subconscious and we are constantly reminded that we need to work with coaches, but stick to the rules.

Its no different than people you deal with in everyday life. If someone you know treats you like crap you are more likely to return the favor.

[penguinpower]

I guess I'm not saying I go out and think...I'm going to screw this guy over. We watch video every week and you can tell when coaches get on us and are getting on our nerves because we will either call something really tight or miss a call. I think its all subconscious and we are constantly reminded that we need to work with coaches, but stick to the rules.

Its no different than people you deal with in everyday life. If someone you know treats you like crap you are more likely to return the favor.

Why can't you call a clean game then? YSU got screwed at Indiana State and Illinois State. Then you took over the game vs NDSU (and I'm not talking about the dpi). Your outfit needs to improve dramatically as it is not even close to being NFL caliber and it is inconsistent in how things are called. Really that is what really erks me. BTW why have you picked on Youngstown for so many years? I've never seen a team get so many bad calls. It is statically impossible.

[Houndawg]

Why can't you call a clean game then? YSU got screwed at Indiana State and Illinois State. Then you took over the game vs NDSU (and I'm not talking about the dpi). Your outfit needs to improve dramatically as it is not even close to being NFL caliber and it is inconsistent in how things are called. Really that is what really erks me. BTW why have you picked on Youngstown for so many years? I've never seen a team get so many bad calls. It is statically impossible.

Neither is your team.xcoffeex

[penguinpower]

Neither is your team.xcoffeex

Until you get on this side of it you wouldn't know. Even YSU radio play by play announcers were discussing the situation. We were the team that got "woffed" for so many years, even got passed up with 8 wins by a 6 win team and now that we are marginally better we now fight the referees. Watch the call in the ISUb game. Just watch it. TD called back. But you know they wouldn't have taken us anyway. Bush league referees in the MVFC.

[Sycamore62]

Until you get on this side of it you wouldn't know. Even YSU radio play by play announcers were discussing the situation. We were the team that got "woffed" for so many years, even got passed up with 8 wins by a 6 win team and now that we are marginally better we now fight the referees. Watch the call in the ISUb game. Just watch it. TD called back. But you know they wouldn't have taken us anyway. Bush league referees in the MVFC.

How many bad calls have you watched in games that didnt involve YSU? yes they blew that call but had Bo not intervened it would have been 3rd and 8 on our 45 rather than 1st and 10 on your 40. when it happened live, at the game, it looked like an incomplete pass. i pulled the game up on my phone and didnt see the fumble till they showed it on the replay in slow motion. Your bad calls arent any worse than anyone else's

[penguinpower]

How many bad calls have you watched in games that didnt involve YSU? yes they blew that call but had Bo not intervened it would have been 3rd and 8 on our 45 rather than 1st and 10 on your 40. when it happened live, at the game, it looked like an incomplete pass. i pulled the game up on my phone and didnt see the fumble till they showed it on the replay in slow motion. Your bad calls arent any worse than anyone else's


I've seen UNI get some bad calls too. More than normal but nowhere near what we get

[Missingnumber7]

Until you get on this side of it you wouldn't know. Even YSU radio play by play announcers were discussing the situation. We were the team that got "woffed" for so many years, even got passed up with 8 wins by a 6 win team and now that we are marginally better we now fight the referees. Watch the call in the ISUb game. Just watch it. TD called back. But you know they wouldn't have taken us anyway. Bush league referees in the MVFC.

This is hilarious. Watch the officials during the playoffs, then thank yourself you never had a MEAC crew who had the game look like it was way to fast for them. The game is fast and incredibly difficult to call at full speed. You have to make a snap decision while everyone and their brother gets the luxury of a replay and it gets slowed down.

And I'm not even really interested in a homer radio play by play guys opinion.

Coaches teach players to do things that are on the edge of the rules. When they get in situations where they aren't the best player in that spot they do whatever they can to gain an advantage. If that violates a rule it gets flagged.

But by all means sit in the stands and heckle all you want. Can I get your place of employment, I will come and heckle every time you make a typo or send the wrong TPS report, or even do the correct thing because it doesn't benefit me or I don't have a clue. That's what fans mean to me as an official, its usually entertaining to hear what they yell from the stands.

[penguinpower]

This is hilarious. Watch the officials during the playoffs, then thank yourself you never had a MEAC crew who had the game look like it was way to fast for them. The game is fast and incredibly difficult to call at full speed. You have to make a snap decision while everyone and their brother gets the luxury of a replay and it gets slowed down.

And I'm not even really interested in a homer radio play by play guys opinion.

Coaches teach players to do things that are on the edge of the rules. When they get in situations where they aren't the best player in that spot they do whatever they can to gain an advantage. If that violates a rule it gets flagged.

But by all means sit in the stands and heckle all you want. Can I get your place of employment, I will come and heckle every time you make a typo or send the wrong TPS report, or even do the correct thing because it doesn't benefit me or I don't have a clue. That's what fans mean to me as an official, its usually entertaining to hear what they yell from the stands.

I'm just having fun with this. We suck too much to let us in, but we are improving. I understand that you need to be better than the referees.

[AmsterBison]

Hey, spot the chop block in this play... hint: it got called on NDSU's LT and LG.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGi573cXzr4

[Sycamore62]

Ya that was almost as bad as the tackle on our OLB on your first touchdown

[Houndawg]

Until you get on this side of it you wouldn't know. Even YSU radio play by play announcers were discussing the situation. We were the team that got "woffed" for so many years, even got passed up with 8 wins by a 6 win team and now that we are marginally better we now fight the referees. Watch the call in the ISUb game. Just watch it. TD called back. But you know they wouldn't have taken us anyway. Bush league referees in the MVFC.

I saw you play, and lose to, a 3-8 SIU team that you had a two-score lead over with 5:00 minutes left in the game. I don't recall any bad calls on YSU that game. Maybe you could refresh my memory, I had almost finished my back-up flask of Buffalo Trace by then. Maybe Pellini's antics in that game were just habit?

[clenz]

I've seen UNI get some bad calls too. More than normal but nowhere near what we get
Everyone gets them.

Other teams don't dwell on **** for weeks at a time like YSU does

[Missingnumber7]

I'm just having fun with this. We suck too much to let us in, but we are improving. I understand that you need to be better than the referees.

Interesting way to put it.

Don't get me wrong there are times when I see calls I don't agree with, but I used to be that kid in the front row of the student section calling the officials every name in the book. I just think that the MVFC officials are head and shoulder above what NDSU used to get in the Great West and what we used to get the first two or three years we came into the MVFC. Now that I can watch most of the conference games, and have seen all of the crews that work MVFC, I think as a whole the officiating in our conference is good. Watch some of the other FCS conference games. Its not as good by far. Every other week they do a video for NCAA officials on the stuff guys screwed up on and the calls we need to be making. Usually P5 games or TV games. There have been some SWAC, MEAC and IVY plays on there where the officials have gotten chastised for what they did or didn't do. Stuff that doesn't happen in the MVFC.

I've also seen some of the crews that we have had for playoff games. One of the more memorable was the Coastal/NDSU game last year. The officials looked like the game was entirely to fast for them and they struggled to keep up with CCU's up-tempo offense. And this was a quarterfinal playoff game. I would think you have better crews than that to send or that the crews should be fairly representative of the teams that are remaining but it isn't.

[Sycamore62]

you always remember the bad calls that you think cost you games. Its harder to remember the ones that went your way.

the first year we had a winning season after the 5 year 1 win period we beat MSU (i think) on a punt(our punt) that was blocked and crossed the LOS but was in the expanded neutral zone. one of our players caught it in the air and ran for a first down. they said it was a first down for us because it didn't cross the expanded neutral zone but the rule was that it couldnt cross the LOS so they applied the rule wrong, not just made the wrong call like fumble/no fumble, catch/no catch.

I remember that because the following week we won a game when the same thing happened except that it was clean and correctly officiated.

[Sycamore62]

I wonder what FCS team is going to get the newest best hire at the FCS level ever Les Miles?

Probably someone like Illinois

[Bisonoline]

Interesting way to put it.

Don't get me wrong there are times when I see calls I don't agree with, but I used to be that kid in the front row of the student section calling the officials every name in the book. I just think that the MVFC officials are head and shoulder above what NDSU used to get in the Great West and what we used to get the first two or three years we came into the MVFC. Now that I can watch most of the conference games, and have seen all of the crews that work MVFC, I think as a whole the officiating in our conference is good. Watch some of the other FCS conference games. Its not as good by far. Every other week they do a video for NCAA officials on the stuff guys screwed up on and the calls we need to be making. Usually P5 games or TV games. There have been some SWAC, MEAC and IVY plays on there where the officials have gotten chastised for what they did or didn't do. Stuff that doesn't happen in the MVFC.

I've also seen some of the crews that we have had for playoff games. One of the more memorable was the Coastal/NDSU game last year. The officials looked like the game was entirely to fast for them and they struggled to keep up with CCU's up-tempo offense. And this was a quarterfinal playoff game. I would think you have better crews than that to send or that the crews should be fairly representative of the teams that are remaining but it isn't.

Dont forget the SDSU playoff game. Remember the phantom tipped ball play? Plus other supposed infractions that are to numerous to mention.

[herd13]

Dont forget the SDSU playoff game. Remember the phantom tipped ball play? Plus other supposed infractions that are to numerous to mention.

That one was crazy. I had the picture as the desktop of my computer for awhile. That ball was 8 ft above the guys head.

[sgt smash]

Just going to bring this back to the top.

[Professor Chaos]

It's pretty easy to see why Nebraska dumped him despite the fact that he never won less than 8 games in a season there. He's not cut out to be a head coach. My guess is after the Nebraska money runs out (which I think is after this year) he finds a nice FBS DC job somewhere... that's his niche... in a booth far away from the sidelines and from the microphones postgame.

[RowdyRabbit]

It's pretty easy to see why Nebraska dumped him despite the fact that he never won less than 8 games in a season there. He's not cut out to be a head coach. My guess is after the Nebraska money runs out (which I think is after this year) he finds a nice FBS DC job somewhere... that's his niche... in a booth far away from the sidelines and from the microphones postgame.

I was telling everyone I could that if there was only one game they could get to, make it this one so they could watch Bo do Bo things. Bo did not dissappoint!

I watched him probably as much as the game itself.

[BisonBacker]

OK without seeing the game or hearing what happened who wants to give the readers digest condensed version of what Bo did yesterday? I haven't heard about his latest escapades/antics.

[Professor Chaos]

OK without seeing the game or hearing what happened who wants to give the readers digest condensed version of what Bo did yesterday? I haven't heard about his latest escapades/antics.
Just another unsportsmanlike penalty that knocked his kicker back 15 yards prior to a FG attempt that he subsequently missed. Apparently he wanted a timeout before a failed 3rd and goal read option fairly early in the game, didn't get it, and that's what lit his fuse. YSU got the ball inside the 5 on that drive down 13-7 and came away with no points. The rest was history.

At least I think that's all he did.

[Schism55]

I watch a TON of college football, I am struggling to remember another instance of a coach getting an unsportsmanlike penalty, nevermind multiple instances of it??
Also Prof is right on the money, he should be a DC.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Wondering how many meltdowns he will have in the FD?

He's probably got something in the works for moving on to the FBS soon. Ride out the Youngstown gig and move on.

[Daytripper]

It's pretty easy to see why Nebraska dumped him despite the fact that he never won less than 8 games in a season there. He's not cut out to be a head coach. My guess is after the Nebraska money runs out (which I think is after this year) he finds a nice FBS DC job somewhere... that's his niche... in a booth far away from the sidelines and from the microphones postgame.

I see him coaching linebackers for Bill Belichek.

[Go Green]

I watch a TON of college football, I am struggling to remember another instance of a coach getting an unsportsmanlike penalty, nevermind multiple instances of it??


I take it that you are too young to remember Woody Hayes.

[Serpentor]

I take it that you are too young to remember Woody Hayes.

Look, if that Clemson player wants to run into Woody's fist, that's his problem...

[Sycamore62]

I watch a TON of college football, I am struggling to remember another instance of a coach getting an unsportsmanlike penalty, nevermind multiple instances of it??
Also Prof is right on the money, he should be a DC.

I think Trent Miles got one in a money game vs IU. Probably got big timed by the official. Sanford got one when we were in a close game and down to playing a receiver at QB because 3 guys were out with concussions and someone didnt get a targeting call. They dont tend to call them on the HC

[Thumper 76]

For all his flaws I do want to give him props for coming over to Isaac Wallace and staying there most of the time he was on the ground before being loaded onto the cart.


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[Go Green]

Look, if that Clemson player wants to run into Woody's fist, that's his problem...

And if that First Down Marker wants to run into Woody's knee... :)

[DFW HOYA]

I take it that you are too young to remember Woody Hayes.

For those too young, here is the reference.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmoIjMr1BZs

[Go Green]

Yep.

I tried to find similar video of Hayes' 1971 meltdown against Michigan when he stalked the ref all the way to midfield over some call after the game had been effectively decided, and then went to the sideline to rip the first down marker to shreds before leaving the field.

Alas, can't find it!

[POD Knows]

For those too young, here is the reference.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmoIjMr1BZsIt is kind of amazing how clueless the broadcasting crew was on this deal. I remember this game.

[JayJ79]

It is kind of amazing how clueless the broadcasting crew was on this deal. I remember this game.
replay technology in the broadcast booth in those days was rather primitive.

[Schism55]

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24981539/bowling-green-fires-head-coach-mike-jinks
Welp Bo has a DC job waiting for him, lol