Illinois State @ Youngstown State

[penguinpower]

This is shaping up to look like it will be a good game. Youngstown's defense is playing pretty good right now.

[andthehomeofthe-BIZON-]

BIG measuring stick for the penguins. Is the Bo show for real? We shall see

[Penguin Nation]

I cannot predict this game. YSU is loaded defensively...although the run D is not as strong as the rest of the unit. If the YSU offense that played against USD and RMU shows up, we will struggle. If the YSU offense that showed up at Heinz Field is at the Castle Saturday, then we will win, perhaps convincingly.

[TheKingpin28]

BIG measuring stick for the penguins. Is the Bo show for real? We shall see

Well it's not November, so YSU should be strong.

[REALBird]

Looking forward to this game. Pitt is 3-1 and YSU played them tough. Iowa is 3-1 and well ISUr got taken to the woodshed. USD doesn't to much for me, nor do I think the Bob Morris game should have been as close for YSU.

The EIU game for ISU was close, and despite beating UNI we need Tre Roberson lined up at QB and slinging it, not playing WR and running the read option a few times as he did against UNI.

We get Jon Marc Anderson (WR) back this week, Teddy Corwin (DE) is still questionable, and we won't know about Roberson's thumb until sometime this week.

Road games are hard to win, let's hope we're playing at full strength.

[gregatim]

Looking forward to this game. Pitt is 3-1 and YSU played them tough. Iowa is 3-1 and well ISUr got taken to the woodshed. USD doesn't to much for me, nor do I think the Bob Morris game should have been as close for YSU.

The EIU game for ISU was close, and despite beating UNI we need Tre Roberson lined up at QB and slinging it, not playing WR and running the read option a few times as he did against UNI.

We get Jon Marc Anderson (WR) back this week, Teddy Corwin (DE) is still questionable, and we won't know about Roberson's thumb until sometime this week.

Road games are hard to win, let's hope we're playing at full strength.

Iowa is 5-0 homie.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Looking forward to this game. Pitt is 3-1 and YSU played them tough. Iowa is 3-1 and well ISUr got taken to the woodshed. USD doesn't to much for me, nor do I think the Bob Morris game should have been as close for YSU.

The EIU game for ISU was close, and despite beating UNI we need Tre Roberson lined up at QB and slinging it, not playing WR and running the read option a few times as he did against UNI.

We get Jon Marc Anderson (WR) back this week, Teddy Corwin (DE) is still questionable, and we won't know about Roberson's thumb until sometime this week.

Road games are hard to win, let's hope we're playing at full strength.



Is Roberson's hand going to be healed up enough to be effective?

[REALBird]

Iowa is 5-0 homie.
Good catch, posted our record again instead of theirs.

[REALBird]

Is Roberson's hand going to be healed up enough to be effective?

Depending on which report you believe, some indicated it was a broken hand....if that's the case it a chance in Hell! But other reports indicated he just injured it and had trouble gripping the ball.

Would think that if it was broken he wouldn't have carried the ball twice or lined up at WR several times. Either way, we need him to win.

Can't see winning in the Ice Castle without him.

[World]

Iowa is 5-0 homie.


Not only is Iowa now 5-0 but it is also ranked 22nd in the AP FBS rankings

[REALBird]

Not only is Iowa now 5-0 but it is also ranked 22nd in the AP FBS rankings
My understanding is that they are "supposed" to have the weakest or one of the weakest schedules at the FBS level. Seems that Wisconsin was their first real test.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Iowa beat Pitt on a last second 57 yard field goal at home. They seemed to be evenly matched.

And yes on Gameday they stated that Iowa had the easiest schedule in the country this year. I am not sure how much of a test Wisconsin actually was this year either. That game was hideously ugly. The west of the Big Ten is incredibly weak this year, and Iowa's only two crossover games are Maryland and Indiana.

[Daved]

Well it's not November, so YSU should be strong.Sad but true!

[BucBisonAtLarge]

This is an early test for Bo Pelini and his ability to win a high-stakes MVFC game, something that Wolford could not reliably do. Youngstown has a nice set-up this year in-conference-- NDSU, SDSU and ISUr at home, and no Northern Iowa. Into the Wolford years, this kind of schedule did not translate to much advantage for the Penguins. They performed well at USD last week, but I watched the RMU game. It was very hard on the eyes. Hopefully those players, Bo and his coaching staff have advanced together. A loss on Saturday would not be a final verdict, to be sure. This is a new regime. A win, however, says something else. It is going to be fun.

[ysubigred]

This is an early test for Bo Pelini and his ability to win a high-stakes MVFC game, something that Wolford could not reliably do. Youngstown has a nice set-up this year in-conference-- NDSU, SDSU and ISUr at home, and no Northern Iowa. Into the Wolford years, this kind of schedule did not translate to much advantage for the Penguins. They performed well at USD last week, but I watched the RMU game. It was very hard on the eyes. Hopefully those players, Bo and his coaching staff have advanced together. A loss on Saturday would not be a final verdict, to be sure. This is a new regime. A win, however, says something else. It is going to be fun.

Excellent post ^^ Looking back so far at YSU opponents,, Pitt, RMU and SFPA all appear to be doing well. I don't think RMU is as bad as everyone thinks. ISU(r) is a very good team and well coached. Roberson not playing QB will give YSU a big advantage, since a mobile QB that can throw pin point passes (Robertson) can kill you. This will be an awesome game and I as many YSU fans are looking forward to it. Any ISU fans making the trip up we'll be in the M24 tailgate lot with the usual Youngstown hospitality xnodx

[eiu1999]

I think YSU wins this one by 7.

[BucBisonAtLarge]

bump

[Sycamore62]

I expect ISUr to lay an egg in the next few weeks. Ive seen them look good and not impressive. I prefer the egg to be vs. ISUb.

[penguinpower]

Predictions?

[Professor Chaos]

I'll take the Penguins by 7-10. I think Bo has got their defense playing well and Roberson hasn't seemed very good throwing the ball even when he's healthy. Marchong will get his yards on the ground but the ISUr offense will be too one-dimensional to get the win. Oh, and it's not November yet so YSU should be good.

[dbackjon]

Iowa beat Pitt on a last second 57 yard field goal at home. They seemed to be evenly matched.

And yes on Gameday they stated that Iowa had the easiest schedule in the country this year. I am not sure how much of a test Wisconsin actually was this year either. That game was hideously ugly. The west of the Big Ten is incredibly weak this year, and Iowa's only two crossover games are Maryland and Indiana.


Northwestern looks legit.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

If Roberson's hand is healed enough to throw effectively, I'll take the Redbirds. If not, then it is a toss up.

[penguinpower]

If Roberson's hand is healed enough to throw effectively, I'll take the Redbirds. If not, then it is a toss up.


Have you watched a YSU game this year? If so have you seen the defense? They look legit to me and I'm not wearing tinted glasses when I state that.

[PantherRob82]

My prediction is Illinois State by 14, but nothing would surprise me.

[penguinpower]

Vegas currently has Youngstown as a 1 point favorite.

[UNIFanSince1983]

YSU - 1908
ISUr - 1857

This means ISUr wins by about 28 points or so.

[The Yo Show]

Damn it. They got us by the age eh?

I think YSU wins this game. Definitely sounds like I'm a homer, but I do think this is a good matchup for the penguins.

[Daved]

If it ends up being the typical YSU vs Ill State game then it will be a see-saw battle---In the past the home team has generally won--hope that holds true this year and really hope for no rain and a decent crowd.

[ysubigred]

I'll take the Penguins by 7-10. I think Bo has got their defense playing well and Roberson hasn't seemed very good throwing the ball even when he's healthy. Marchong will get his yards on the ground but the ISUr offense will be too one-dimensional to get the win. Oh, and it's not November yet so YSU should be good.

LOL!! Yeah too bad YSU can't get NDSU in September!! xdrunkyx

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If it ends up being the typical YSU vs Ill State game then it will be a see-saw battle---In the past the home team has generally won--hope that holds true this year and really hope for no rain and a decent crowd.

Don't worry I'm bringing good weather over from KY for the game xthumbsupx

[The Yo Show]

LOL!! Yeah too bad YSU can't get NDSU in September!! xdrunkyx

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Don't worry I'm bringing good weather over from KY for the game xthumbsupx

You better deliver on that good weather! Ill give you beer! Based on the forecast, you really are though.

[Daved]

LOL!! Yeah too bad YSU can't get NDSU in September!! xdrunkyx

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Don't worry I'm bringing good weather over from KY for the game xthumbsupxThanks Red!--was hoping you weren't bringing any of that "Kentucky Rain" that Elvis sang about.xpeacex

[ysubigred]

You better deliver on that good weather! Ill give you beer! Based on the forecast, you really are though.

xdrunkyx
Beer is good!

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Thanks Red!--was hoping you weren't bringing any of that "Kentucky Rain" that Elvis sang about.xpeacex

Elvis was overrated,, No KY rain here xnodx

[Daved]

xdrunkyx
Beer is good!

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Elvis was overrated,, No KY rain here xnodxI won't blame Elvis as the late Eddie Rabbitt wrote that tune--Eddie also wrote "I Love a Rainy Nite"--I hate rainy nights especially when we are playing at the Ice Castle.

[underdawg]

Probably YSU--still don't trust the Redbird's offensive Line

[penguinpower]

Bump

[Bisonator]

ISUr without Roberson and on the road, I give the edge to YSU.

[REALBird]

ISUr without Roberson and on the road, I give the edge to YSU.

Coach Spack has resorted to the Bill Belichek school of covert coaching. No updates, no status reports. It's likely DE Teddy Corwin is back this week as well as Tre Roberson.

FWIW.....Illinois State is missing 2 of the 4 Pre-Season All-Americans in DE Teddy Corwin (out since week #1) and QB Tre Roberson (limited). Last week we were also missing starting WR - Jon Marc Anderson and WR Christian Gibbs in an already young and depleted receiving corp. Yet, somehow we still came away with the W at home against the #6 team in the country.

This team is starting to echo last years team where converted FB Colin Keosheon moved to DT. Where TE Teddy Corwin converted to DE. We already have FR QB Hasan Muhammad-Rogers taking snaps at WR and although he didn't do much last week, with RS FR Kolbe, Roberson (limited) and Muhammad-Rogers on the field in some sets, it should confuse quite a few defensive coordinators. I'd look for a big trick play at some point this week.

Brandon Berry 6-4 TE moved to DL line last week and in his first snap recorded a TFL, for the game - 3 unassisted tackles for -18 yards and one INT, and one pass deflection.

For all the talk of our transfers: LaDarious Newbold (Texas Tech), Stephen Amako (Oregon), Reggie Spearman (Iowa) they all anchor the SECOND UNIT DEF, none have been able to break the starting lineup of a patchwork DEF that held UNI to 250 total yards last week.

We passed one test last week, now comes the next test. Can we win at the Ice Castle? If the DEF continues to improve the way they did, and we can play from ahead like last week vs. UNI, I think we can steal one in Youngstown.

NEXT MAN UP!!!!

[penguinpower]

YSU is missing the LT on the OL and also has a new C this year. May be the reason why the offense can't get untracked. I think it will be a good game but not one YSU will win. I think the OL needs to improve dramatically and the play call of the OC is predictable and poor in most situational circumstances.

The defense is playing outstanding and may give YSU a chance. Hopefully it doesn't rain because the pussified fans won't show.

[Thumper 76]

It's not November and Roberson is wounded. I'll take YSU by a TD.

[penguinpower]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jCXq6n-mEjc&feature=youtu.be


YSU vs ISUr hype video

[The Yo Show]

That hype video gave me goosebumps. Wow.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

What type of crowd is YSU expecting for this one? Is this the most anticipated contest in a while?

I'm still considering coming out for the YSU-NDSU game.....

[PantherRob82]

What type of crowd is YSU expecting for this one? Is this the most anticipated contest in a while?

I'm still considering coming out for the YSU-NDSU game.....

YSU crowds....woof. I've been to three games there and two were soooooo depressing. I would check to see what time the Buckeyes kickoff before deciding to attend. ;)

[Daved]

YSU crowds....woof. I've been to three games there and two were soooooo depressing. I would check to see what time the Buckeyes kickoff before deciding to attend. ;)Unfortunately that's true--YSU football takes a back seat to high school football and also the Buckeyes.If it doesn't rain I do expect a decent crowd of @ least 15k.

[penguinpower]

That's because most people in Youngstown are like this guy and hence the love affair with HS football.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xL-VX3WbA9U

[ValleyTalk]

It is not going to rain people! 0% chance today.

[X-Factor]

Unfortunately that's true--YSU football takes a back seat to high school football and also the Buckeyes.If it doesn't rain I do expect a decent crowd of @ least 15k.
HS football is a bigger event than YSU.... I feel sorry for you guys if true. I'd understand if we were talking ISUb in the middle of their infamous run, but you guys always play well at home.

[The Yo Show]

HS football is a bigger event than YSU.... I feel sorry for you guys if true. I'd understand if we were talking ISUb in the middle of their infamous run, but you guys always play well at home.

Its sad, but true. Hell I like highschool football, and their is some great high school football in the greater youngstown area, but it's sad that it is bigger than YSU football. A specific high school game will not usually get more attendance, but if you look at the attendance to all the local high school games, and compare it to what usually shows up at YSU, you would be surprised.

[penguinpower]

HS football is a bigger event than YSU.... I feel sorry for you guys if true. I'd understand if we were talking ISUb in the middle of their infamous run, but you guys always play well at home.


Due to the economic challenges in the area most YSU graduates leave the area. The Uncle Rico's stay there and because they are not educated and they have more affiliation with HS football than YSU.

[ST_Lawson]

Due to the economic challenges in the area most YSU graduates leave the area. The Uncle Rico's stay there and because they are not educated and they have more affiliation with HS football than YSU.

Western has a similar problem. Very few WIU grads actually stay in the area. Most end up getting jobs in the Chicago area, Peoria, Springfield, Quad Cities, St. Louis....all areas that are 2+ hours drive away. We'll get people back for Homecoming, but it's pretty hard getting many of the alumni to come back for games outside of that. We only have one high school in town, but I can assure you that there have been weekends in the past where the high school has drawn as many (if not more) people to their game than Western did.

[X-Factor]

Due to the economic challenges in the area most YSU graduates leave the area. The Uncle Rico's stay there and because they are not educated and they have more affiliation with HS football than YSU.
Ah. That makes a lot of sense now.

[penguinpower]

The Youngstown area is in the process of reinventing itself with the development of 3D printing in Youngstown. The engineering department got a $400,000,000 grant from Siemens corporation. In 10 years I see the population going up but it has been a steady decline since the 1970's. Youngstown is in the center of the technology corridor between Cleveland and Pittsburgh. Maybe we will have more fans in the future.

[RollBirds]

HS football is a bigger event than YSU.... I feel sorry for you guys if true. I'd understand if we were talking ISUb in the middle of their infamous run, but you guys always play well at home.

Yeah Ohio high school football is as good as Texas and Florida


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[penguinpower]

Let's hope our game is as entertaining as the Other big match-up today

[PantherRob82]

The game is delayed?

[Twentysix]

The game is delayed?

Yeah, whats going on here?

[PantherRob82]

Yeah, whats going on here?

F'n Penguins trying to cheat.

[Twentysix]

F'n Penguins trying to cheat.

So the game says it is in delay from before the opening kickoff... yet there are stats on the record...

ESPN says the game hasn't started yet, but also that ISUr has run 10 plays...

[BisonTru]

So the game says it is in delay from before the opening kickoff... yet there are stats on the record...

Game has started. Must be an ESPN thing. I'm in delay as well.

[BisonBacker]

Is this game available to watch online anywhere?

[PantherRob82]

Game has started. Must be an ESPN thing. I'm in delay as well.
I was gonna say. No rain.

[Twentysix]

Is this game available to watch online anywhere?

It's supposed to be on ESPN3

[BisonTru]

ISU marched dn to the 2. YSU holds them on 4th and goal.

[PantherRob82]

Wish the feed would come in.

The feed from SDSU looks terrible every time I try it. Currently Watching SELA-McNeese.

[Twentysix]

ISU marched dn to the 2. YSU holds them on 4th and goal.

ISUr on the board with 7.

[BisonTru]

ISUr on the board with 7.

Pick 6

[BisonTru]

TD YSU

[Rollbird5]

Hopefully the YSU production crew can fix this issue... Ridiculous

[centennial]

Hopefully the YSU production crew can fix this issue... Ridiculous
Amateur hour.

[penguinpower]

This is such bush league bull****

[Rollbird5]

Tre with a 58 yard TD Run!!

[centennial]

WTH ESPN3. I want to watch this game.

[penguinpower]

That td happened after a defensive holding call on the DT? Never seen that before.

[penguinpower]

570 WKBN on I heart radio is how I'm listening

[DoubleE]

14-9 at halftime. YSU will get ball to start 3rd qtr

Hunter Wells is killing YSU

[DoubleE]

ISUr 14 YSU 12 3rd qtr

[penguinpower]

The ESPN feed I on!

[Rollbird5]

The ESPN feed I on!
Finally!!!

[PantherRob82]

Thanks for the heads up. I'm watching now.

[penguinpower]

YSU dominating total yardage. The pick 6 and missed PAT are killing the Penguins

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YSU QB. Play is suspect

[penguinpower]

YSU has done a nice job keeping the red bird offense in check thus far

[PantherRob82]

WTF was that delayed call?

[DoubleE]

my guess is he had no clue untill the backjudge told him he crossed

[centennial]

20-17

[DoubleE]

YSU 20 ISUr 17 4th qtr

[penguinpower]

Isu defense has to be getting worn down. YSU is controlling the ball.

[DoubleE]

Isu defense has to be getting worn down. YSU is controlling the ball.

Lets see how Roberson responds

[DoubleE]

that didnt take long.....

ISUr 24 YSU 20

[centennial]

24-20. Not looking back at all. That was an INT made into TD.

[penguinpower]

Spoke too soon

[penguinpower]

They have two earned TD's on offense. That was the second. The pock 6 was a gift

[penguinpower]

24-23. YSU within 1. 49 yard fg

[centennial]

Good game.

[PantherRob82]

Wow. Huge fake punt.

[centennial]

Gutsy fake punt.

[penguinpower]

Burned on a fake

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Refs have called everything against YSU. Un ****ing believeable

[centennial]

No need for the foul. Going to cost YSU the game.

[Rollbird5]

Ballsy call by Spack and it paid off good conversion!

[centennial]

No need for the foul. Going to cost YSU the game.
I called it. 31-23. 8 point game.

[Rollbird5]

Coprich TD Birds take a 31-23 lead

[DoubleE]

huge return

[ST_Lawson]

I seem to remember us burning Youngstown on a fake punt last year at the Ice Castle.

[centennial]

YSU still has a chance...

[centennial]

Tick tick tick

[Rollbird5]

How big is that blocked extra point looking

[penguinpower]

Nail biter

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TD!

[centennial]

TD!

[DoubleE]

td guins

[penguinpower]

How big is that blocked extra point looking

Wow I know!

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

What a great game!!

[DoubleE]

ISUr 31 YSU 29 2 point conversion attempt coming 32 seconds left in game

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Wow I know!

how big is that pick 6 ?

[penguinpower]

Win or lose. Safe to say YSU is the real deal.

[centennial]

Hard to be overturned

[Rollbird5]

knee looked down before he got there

[DoubleE]

tie game !!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rollbird5]

and lost the ball before he got there

[centennial]

Looked in. Will stand.

[Rollbird5]

Yesssss!!!!!!!!!

[centennial]

Wow!

[DoubleE]

oh god.................

[penguinpower]

Boned by the refs again tonight

[Rollbird5]

we got a new shoeless joe out there?

[penguinpower]

They didn't have the angle to overturn the call

[DoubleE]

man Hunter Wells has been killing us tonight

[centennial]

Wow! Another bad call.

[penguinpower]

So if it was an illegal bat why no penalty?

[PantherRob82]

Wow. The MVFC refs looked overwhelmed in every game I watched today.

[penguinpower]

Total ****ing bull****

[DoubleE]

so batting it out of bounds is legal in college ?

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Sounds like this game is seeing the ending it deserves.....xembarrassedx

[Rollbird5]

Great road win against a solid Penguin squad, Go Birds!

[BirdistheWord]

The ball squirting out didnt matter, his left knee was clearly down at the 2 as he was diving before tha ball even came out.

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[BisonTru]

He batted it on purpose, IMO. Should that have been a penalty, re kick? How does that work?

[centennial]

Total screw job.

[PantherRob82]

He batted it on purpose, IMO. Should that have been a penalty, re kick? How does that work?

I think the other team gets possession.

[DoubleE]

oh this postgame show is gonna be fun.,................

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http://www.iheart.com/live/newsradio-570-wkbn-1869/?autoplay=true&pname=1188&campid=play_bar&cid=main.html

[RollBirds]

Wow this must mean that we've arrived... I thought only the Bison got those kinds of calls


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[dewey]

It looked like the ISU player intentionally pushed it out of bounds but to make that call you had better be 100% sure. Good win on the road by ISU.

Dewey

[Rollbird5]

Here's what someone from redbird forum said on the play: "When the ball is in the field of play, you can bat it backwards, not forward. In the endzone, you cannot bat it anywhere. For this play, you had an argument he tried to make a play, but even if he did bat it, it went backwards, so no penalty."

[Daytripper]

Here's what someone from redbird forum said on the play: "When the ball is in the field of play, you can bat it backwards, not forward. In the endzone, you cannot bat it anywhere. For this play, you had an argument he tried to make a play, but even if he did bat it, it went backwards, so no penalty."

Did that Redbird provide a citation for that rule?

[DoubleE]

ok, bo pelini post game conference coming soon............

[BisonTru]

ok, bo pelini post game conference coming soon............

Link?

[penguinpower]

There was not indisputable evidence to overturn the call. There were not enough cameras and the angle was bad. That was a complete hose job.

[RollBirds]

Did that Redbird provide a citation for that rule?

https://www.ncaapublications.com/p-4387-2015-ncaa-football-rules-and-interpretations.aspx

Here ya I'm sure it's in there somewhere.


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[DoubleE]

Link?
http://www.iheart.com/live/newsradio-570-wkbn-1869/?autoplay=true&pname=1188&campid=play_bar&cid=main.html

[penguinpower]

If YSU plays them again YSU wins outright.

[centennial]

There was not indisputable evidence to overturn the call. There were not enough cameras and the angle was bad. That was a complete hose job.
That was my interpretation. Call was too close to call. Shouldn't have been overturned.

[Missingnumber7]

so batting it out of bounds is legal in college ?

9-4-1
c. No player shall bat other loose balls forward in the field of play or in any
direction if the ball is in the end zone (Rule 2-2-3-a)

You just can't bat it forward or at all if it is in the endzone.

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That was my interpretation. Call was too close to call. Shouldn't have been overturned.

Sure looked like his back knee was down before the ball was across, but I couldn't hear what the white hat said because, much like every other YSU telecast the TV doesn't have a direct link to the mic.

[birdsflyhigh]

The thing is the ISU Redbirds are like a MASH squad right now, so they're still winning and will get many of the injured players back in the next couple weeks. Anyhow, good game YSU. Knew it would be a heck of a battle, but if anyone was skeptical of the Penguins they should NOT be....YSU is the real deal.

GO BIRDS!

[penguinpower]

Pelini is pissed in the presser

[Missingnumber7]

Pelini is pissed in the presser

He keeps acting like he did after the onside kick and he's going to rack up some UNS yards.

[Redbird 13]

If YSU plays them again YSU wins outright.

So Youngstown couldn't beat a shorthanded ISU team at home, but they will beat them on the road in the playoffs?

Yeah, OK.

[REALBird]

Watched the replay on the 2 pt conversion and Wells knee slides about the 2 1/2 yard line. Before he dives and looses control of the ball.

Right call was made.

[IBleedYellow]

Wow this must mean that we've arrived... I thought only the Bison got those kinds of calls


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Salty?

[Bisonwinagn]

There was not indisputable evidence to overturn the call. There were not enough cameras and the angle was bad. That was a complete hose job.

False the players knee was clearly down before the ball crossed the plain. It was an easy call to overturn. The QB running like a pussy was the bigger issue. If he would of plowed in there he would have been fine.

[REALBird]

What calls? What does NDSU have to do with this? Missed XP, Pick 6, failed 2 pt conversion. They could have blown this one open and yet this YSU loss is all about missed opportunities. Bo's meltdown was unwarranted.

[penguinpower]

So Youngstown couldn't beat a shorthanded ISU team at home, but they will beat them on the road in the playoffs?

Yeah, OK.


YSU was shorthanded too. Just not publicized like you guys. The pick 6 wouldn't happen again.

[IBleedYellow]

Salty?

Btw, I'm pretty much 100% kidding here.

[penguinpower]

There were a total of 12 reviews in the game on YSU and only 1 for ISU. Every time YSU made a big play the momentum was stopped for review. Never seen anything like that in a D1 game.

[penguinpower]

False the players knee was clearly down before the ball crossed the plain. It was an easy call to overturn. The QB running like a pussy was the bigger issue. If he would of plowed in there he would have been fine.


So you are saying you had a better angle? The angle I saw could not determine if the ball had crossed the plane.

[REALBird]

I saw the review on TV from the back angle which shows his knee slide down at the 2 1/2 yard line. That one was good enough for me.

Wasn't as hard of a review based on what I saw.

[penguinpower]

They never measured a first down. The TD Isur scored after we took the lead should have been reviewed never did just weird

[REALBird]

They never measured a first down. The TD Isur scored after we took the lead should have been reviewed never did just weird

that I'll give to you. Warrum's hand lands OOB at inches from the goal line BEFORE the ball hits the pylon. Bang bang, probably could have been reversed. Bang bang at best.

[Professor Chaos]

Anyone have video of the controversial 2 point conversion miss? YSU's game highlights didn't include it.

[Rollbird5]

Anyone have video of the controversial 2 point conversion miss? YSU's game highlights didn't include it.
You should be able to still watch it on espn3, then just go to the very end basically and u can see the play and all replays they show. I thought it was pretty clear he was down and he also fumbled before getting the ball to the goaline anyway but I do have redbird colored glasses on so someone from a more objective standpoint would help in validating the call

[Professor Chaos]

You should be able to still watch it on espn3, then just go to the very end basically and u can see the play and all replays they show. I thought it was pretty clear he was down and he also fumbled before getting the ball to the goaline anyway but I do have redbird colored glasses on so someone from a more objective standpoint would help in validating the call
Good call, didn't think of that. But I just went and it doesn't look like they have the replay for some reason. They've got the NDSU/UNI, SDSU/ISUb, and WIU/USD games but no YSU/ISUr. Hopefully it shows up eventually.

[penguinpower]

You should be able to still watch it on espn3, then just go to the very end basically and u can see the play and all replays they show. I thought it was pretty clear he was down and he also fumbled before getting the ball to the goaline anyway but I do have redbird colored glasses on so someone from a more objective standpoint would help in validating the call


For some reason it isn't on ESPN3 replay. I wanted to watch it again too, especially the TD they didn't review on Illinois state.

[penguinpower]

I also wanted to watch the holding call they gave to out DT for slowing the RB between the Tackle and guard. Never seen that call in nearly 37 years of watching football.

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I also wanted to see the no call on the batted call with the onside kick.

[penguinpower]

I also wanted to see the missed holding call when Roberson broke containment and ran down the sideline for 50 yards.

[penguinpower]

I also wanted to see the catch that was overturned by YSU TE on the sideline. Everyone tells me it was a catch on the local replay.

[PantherRob82]

Anyone know where I can catch the replay of crying over replays?

2 point conversion looked like it was pretty clearly no good, and I was cheering for OT

[ValleyTalk]

Anyone know where I can catch the replay of crying over replays?

2 point conversion looked like it was pretty clearly no good, and I was cheering for OT
It should never have came down to that play. The pick six and the ballsy fake punt by Spack cost us the game. Tough loss for the Guins.

[Daved]

It should never have came down to that play. The pick six and the ballsy fake punt by Spack cost us the game. Tough loss for the Guins.Totally agree--that fake punt was definitely the turning point and missing that PAT kick didn't help.We didn't lose it by 14 as Bob expected and that was before he knew if Roberson would be at qb.Roberson looked fine with most of his throws and his runs were devastating.Roberson is great and his line gave him tons of time to throw.Hope we get to see the Birds again later.I tip my cap to the Birds for a tough victory on the road rather than whine about officiating like some unnamed poster (from another team) would.

[Daved]

You should be able to still watch it on espn3, then just go to the very end basically and u can see the play and all replays they show. I thought it was pretty clear he was down and he also fumbled before getting the ball to the goaline anyway but I do have redbird colored glasses on so someone from a more objective standpoint would help in validating the callLol--I saw the replay numerous times and thought the conversion was good--that just proves that our eyes are homers.xdrunkyx

[TennBison]

So you are saying you had a better angle? The angle I saw could not determine if the ball had crossed the plane.
So basically what you are saying is that even the best angle you could come up with anywhere is not enough to overturn the call.

[penguinpower]

So basically what you are saying is that even the best angle you could come up with anywhere is not enough to overturn the call.


That's what I'm saying. Has to be indisputable evidence to overturn the call. The cameras were on the 30 yard line. Goal line cameras would have definitively shown whether or not he was in. The knee was down and the ball appeared to be on the goal line. It also looked as if he may have started losing possession but you couldn't tell if it was caused by impact with the ground. All I am saying is that it must be indisputable and it was not and there is no way unless goal line cameras are used. I am all for that requirement, especially if replay is being used on most key plays. The end zone is the most key area on the field and should have 100% camera coverage from multiple angles.

[REALBird]

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21456&stc=1

[penguinpower]

Both Line judges called it in. I can't tell from that angle.

[birdsflyhigh]

Okay, NOW can we get the incessant YSU fan to stop sobbing. I'm starting to realize why some NDSU and UNI fans could care less if YSU hits the road and gets out of the MVFC. Anyhow, back-to-back top 10 wins for the Birds (one without ISU's starting QB).....maybe ISU can start getting a few #1 votes here on AGS.

[penguinpower]

[QUOTE=birdsflyhigh;2265486]Okay, NOW can we get the incessant YSU fan to stop sobbing. I'm starting to realize why some NDSU and UNI fans could care less if YSU hits the road and gets out of the MVFC. Anyhow, back-to-back top 10 wins for the Birds (one without ISU's starting QB).....maybe ISU can start getting a few #1 votes here on AGS.[/

Go **** yourself

Did you get that from the referees you guys paid?

[REALBird]

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21457&stc=1
Warrum's left hand is OOB on the white (also wearing white gloves), right hand and ball have not been extended to pylon. 1st and G inside the one yard line. Bang Bang in real time. Goal line official looks to side judge to see if went out. Side judge was out of frame. Goal line ref calls TD. This could have been reviewed, not sure they would have reversed it. This was the only angle shown on replay.

[REALBird]

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21458&stc=1
Close up of knee touching down a 2 1/2.


http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21459&stc=1

Wider shot. if that's across the goal line, I'm high right now.

[PantherRob82]

That fake punt was gutsy and brilliant.

[penguinpower]

Not directed at you REALBird

[penguinpower]

That looks way clearer to me now. That snapshot was not isolated like that on replay. I swear I watched it and it looked like he was in. What a mistake. Why wouldn't he dive in?

[penguinpower]

The ball was past the 2.5 yard line. It was much closer because the ball touched the goal line when he was fully down. At the 2.5 yard lime that is a difference of about 7 feet. It was much closer than that.

[REALBird]

That looks way clearer to me now. That snapshot was not isolated like that on replay. I swear I watched it and it looked like he was in. What a mistake. Why wouldn't he dive in?

The difference in both was exactly that. Warrum laid out and extended his body parallel to the ground. Wells did a half slide/dive. On the replay when you see the rubber pellets come up as his knee dragged it was even more obvious on the first screenshot from the sideline.

[REALBird]

The ball wan past the 2.5 yard line. It was much closer because the ball touched the goal line when he was fully down. At the 2.5 yard lime that is a difference of about 7 feet. It was much closer than that.

Ball was past the 2 1/2, relative to when he fully extends the ball and his body, with two hands it's still not across. It was so bang bang that as the two defenders hit Wells, he's reaching with one hand and the ball comes out. I can still capture it, but when the ball is crossing the goal line it's clearly on the way out. If Wells is 6'5" and he's balled up in the fetal position with his knee clearly touching the 2 1/2 yard line. And his arms not full extended at this point, he couldn't be across that line. Unless he's a member of the Fantastic 4.

[penguinpower]

Ball was past the 2 1/2, relative to when he fully extends the ball with two hands it's still not across. It was so bang bang that as the two defenders hit Wells, he's reaching with one hand and the ball comes out. I can still capture it, but when the ball is crossing the goal line it's clearly on the way out.

Yes, I saw it bounce but I wasn't sure when it happened. I thought he was across so it is irrelevant now. They didn't show any replays in the stadium. And the coverage of the broadcast was bush-league.

Thank you for showing me that.

[BisonTru]

I'm high right now.

We don't tolerate that behavior. You are suspended until the next practice.

#Spackbringingdnthehammer

[REALBird]

We don't tolerate that behavior. You are suspended until the next practice.

#Spackbringingdnthehammer

Its for medical purposes....so my per diem for road trips will be reduced by 2.50.

[Daved]

So Youngstown couldn't beat a shorthanded ISU team at home, but they will beat them on the road in the playoffs?

Yeah, OK.Only time would tell--neither team dominated and either team may win if they play again no matter where they play.If logic were the sure indicator of a winner they wouldn't have to play the game!

[Daved]

Anyone know where I can catch the replay of crying over replays?

2 point conversion looked like it was pretty clearly no good, and I was cheering for OTNot sure if they have it in your area but ECN carries them in this part of the U.S.(Eye Clenzing Network)xdrunkyx

[DoubleE]

We don't tolerate that behavior. You are suspended until the next practice.

#Spackbringingdnthehammer

yeah thats not going to be leagal in ohio for another month