Penn @ Villanova

[Gangtackle11]

Let's discuss this Thursday's game here.

Penn (0-1)@ #7 Villanova (2-1)

Last week:
Penn lost @ Lehigh 42-21
Villanova beat Delaware 28-21

Series:
Villanova leads the series 14-5

1st meeting: 11/18/1905 Penn won 42-0
Last meeting: 9/27/2014 Villanova won 41-7

Penn HC:
Ray Priore
1st Year
Overall Record: 0-1
Penn Record: 0-1


Villanova HC:
Andy Talley
35th year as HC (31st @ Villanova)
Overall Record: 245-147-2
Villanova Record: 217-129-1
2009 FCS National Champion

[Gangtackle11]

Villanova will be without 3 starters hurt in Delaware game:

QB John Robertson
OL Ethan Greenidge
OL Brad Seaton

[Go Green]

Someone should do a story on why Penn has fallen so far, so fast.

[Ivytalk]

Someone should do a story on why Penn has fallen so far, so fast.
I think it correlates directly to the sad state of the coal industry in PA.

[bonarae]

Villanova, with or without Robertson, has the ability to win big. Penn is a shell of what they used to be, even without Bagnoli. I'm thinking 21+ for the Wildcats.

[PAllen]

Nova by 4+ TDs

[Gangtackle11]

It's the best game on the schedule for backup Zach Bednarczyk to make his starting debut. I am high on him even before his Delaware heroics. I expect him to come in and play a solid game vs. Penn.

What concerns me is the injuries to the OL. The depth there has been hit hard with both Seaton & Greenidge both unavailable & Prus coming back sooner than he ideally would have from his bone marrow donation. May or may not show vs. Penn, but it will down the road if the injuries continue to pile up.

All considered it is hard to think that Penn will be in the game when the final second ticks off the clock, but crazier things have happened.

Villanova 35 Penn 7

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I think it correlates directly to the sad state of the coal industry in PA.

The panic of 1897 had a lot of impacts, though it's too early to tell how it will impact the area fully.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Someone should do a story on why Penn has fallen so far, so fast.

All I can tell you is Lehigh carved up that defense and scored 40 points on an opponent for the first time in a long time. Also, maybe hiring Kansas' old offensive coordinator might not be a path back to the top of the heap.

[HailSzczur]

I always love the matchup history here
1905-1911: Penn 5-0
1999-present: Nova 13-0

In 88 years not one single match-up? They're right down the street.

[Gangtackle11]

I always love the matchup history here
1905-1911: Penn 5-0
1999-present: Nova 13-0

In 88 years not one single match-up? They're right down the street.

I guess one of the schools held a grudge or maybe they thought the Pope was going to visit in 1912 and the horseless carriage gridlock warnings were too much to continue?

[HailSzczur]

I guess one of the schools held a grudge or maybe they thought the Pope was going to visit in 1912 and the horseless carriage gridlock warnings were too much to continue?

Letter got lost in the mail and Andy found it 80 something years later when cleaning his office?

[CHIP72]

I always love the matchup history here
1905-1911: Penn 5-0
1999-present: Nova 13-0

In 88 years not one single match-up? They're right down the street.

No, what's stranger is all the years Penn and Drexel didn't play in basketball. Those two schools are literally right down the street.

[Gangtackle11]

Behemoth OT Brad Seaton is out for the season according to Talley on his radio show tonight.

He said Robertson is out "indefinitely".

[HailSzczur]

Behemoth OT Brad Seaton is out for the season according to Talley on his radio show tonight.

He said Robertson is out "indefinitely".

A couple of places are reporting that the PCL is completely torn. 8+ weeks

[KPSUL]

A couple of places are reporting that the PCL is completely torn. 8+ weeks

If it is completely torn, it will have to be surgically replaced and he is out for the season.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Terrible news about Robertson's season-ending injury (and possibly college career-ending). The only silver lining is that Penn provides a great opportunity for the redshirt freshman to work out the kinks before league play starts. Certainly Penn will be jazzed for the game and will be trying to avoid an 0-2 start, but I think the short turnaround between games will not help Penn one bit.

[Go Green]

Penn will be jazzed for the game and will be trying to avoid an 0-2 start, but I think the short turnaround between games will not help Penn one bit.

It's not like Penn did any better with a full week's prep.

http://www.thedp.com/article/2014/09/wenik-penn-football-stop-playing-villanova

[Gangtackle11]

Game notes:

Villanova:http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/nova/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2015-16/release/release_20150923aaa.pdf


Penn: http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/nova/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2015-16/release/release_20150923aaa_penn.pdf

[Go...gate]

The Pope should take a couple of hours out from his schedule and see this one. Villanova Stadium is a nice ballpark.

[KPSUL]

The Pope should take a couple of hours out from his schedule and see this one. Villanova Stadium is a nice ballpark.

I don't think he can make it. I hear he wanted a sure thing catholic school win so he is going to UMass @ Notre Dame

[Go Green]

I hear he wanted a sure thing catholic school win

Yeah... well... I really don't think that will be a problem with Nova-Penn.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Which will be the bigger blowout, Nova over Penn or Notre Dame over UMass?

[Gangtackle11]

Which will be the bigger blowout, Nova over Penn or Notre Dame over UMass?

My call Villanova struggles for a half with Penn. New QB & 3 OLinemen out will have Penn playing with the Wildcats for awhile. The 2nd half will see adjustments and improvement for the Villanova offense. They will win easily in the end.

[Nova09]

Penn up 7-0 early in 2nd, they have dominated, missed a fg and got stopped on 4th down in redzone

[bonarae]

Now almost halfway through 2nd, Penn now leads by 2 TD's.

[Nova09]

4th and 20? Oh we'll just rough the kicker to give you a 1st down. 2 plays later, we're down 14-0

[Pard4Life]

Are you serious? 14-0 Penn?

[bonarae]

Pick-six, but delay of game penalty called against 'Nova? xconfusedx

[gumby013]

29 yards and two first downs for Nova in the first half....

They had the ball for a total of 5:35. Penn had the ball for 24:25.

Take a moment to let that sink in.

[Professor Chaos]

29 yards and two first downs for Nova in the first half....

They had the ball for a total of 5:35. Penn had the ball for 24:25.

Take a moment to let that sink in.
And 55 penalty yards. There's a lot more wrong with Nova right now than an injured QB.

[Go...gate]

Did the Villanova Varsity go to St. Patrick's for Pope Francis' Vespers and leave the job to the JV???

[Nova09]

Another 4th down penalty

[Nova09]

17-0 4:14 3rd

[Nova09]

On the board! Now we need a stop, another of those, another stop, and do it again before time runs out

[penguinpower]

Listening on XM. I don't think they can recover from this tonight

[penguinpower]

Villanova announcers are stunned

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Just got home and saw the score! Wow! Penn's offense showed some flashes last week against Lehigh but their defense was pretty weak....

[penguinpower]

Nova defense can't get off the field. Ran only 14 plays on offense and allowed 14 first downs. Something is way wrong.

[Nova09]

11 mins left 4th and 2 Penn at nova 35...qb punt

[The Yo Show]

Does make you wonder, what happens if Nova had their QB and offensive line? In any case, this will be a bad loss for Nova.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Villanova's offense has not been right all year. Before Robertson got hurt last week they were struggling. Fordham does not have a stellar defense by any measure and Villanova scored 14 points. UConn's defense is legit so that's a tough gage.

[gumby013]

Penn 90 yard fumble return for a TD...wow...

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Penn 90 yard fumble return for a TD...wow...

so 24-7?

[gumby013]

so 24-7?

Correct. 6:51 to go in the 4th.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Penn has not beaten Villanova since 1911. They've lost 14 straight games since the two resumed playing in 1980. They've played every year since 2005....

[melloware13]

Nova's offense had some spurts last week, but it seemed like one per quarter in the first half, and then the last two in the second half. Drives that didn't end in the end zone seemed to not cross the 50. They also had the line getting bullied when they tried to run.

[Pard4Life]

Did Lafayette show up in Nova uniforms?

[melloware13]

Did Lafayette show up in Nova uniforms?
Maybe Millersville did

[penguinpower]

This game is a mystery to me. I don't think Villanova is that bad and I don't think Penn is that good

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Penn recovered an onside kick following a Villanova TD. Seems like it will end 24-13. Did 'Nova miss another XP?

[centennial]

The hell is going on?

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Holy crap. Congratulations to Penn!!!!!

[penguinpower]

Messed up the snap

[penguinpower]

Game over

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Wonder what the box score looks like. Going to be ugly

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

This is huge surprise! Penn has played Villanova tough over the years but have lost every time. Some of the losses in the mid 2000's were brutally painful iirc.

So over the last 3 years the IL has a win over a respectable Big Sky program, a really good CAA program and a 1A team? Not too shabby. Good chance the league goes 3-0 against the CAA this year. I know, 2 wins would be against URI. Still better than the PL.....

[smilo]

We deserved to win based on those final three drives - take away the fumble and we do, but complete garbage. No run defense. No pass defense. Garbage special teams. Just embarassing.

[Sandlapper Spike]

Game over

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Wonder what the box score looks like. Going to be ugly


Box score (http://espn.go.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=400795654)

Villanova finished with 281 yards of total offense, gave up a defensive touchdown, botched a PAT.

[bluehenbillk]

I get Villanova's offensive troubles - their OL is not impressive at all. What I don't get is how Penn controlled the game so much against the VU defense. Truly one of the biggest upsets in a long time.

Blame it on the Pope?

[penguinpower]

Box score (http://espn.go.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=400795654)

Villanova finished with 281 yards of total offense, gave up a defensive touchdown, botched a PAT.


thanks

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Box score (http://espn.go.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=400795654)

Villanova finished with 281 yards of total offense, gave up a defensive touchdown, botched a PAT.

Penn had a 2:1 ratio in TOP! That's crazy.....

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Box score (http://espn.go.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=400795654)

Villanova finished with 281 yards of total offense, gave up a defensive touchdown, botched a PAT.

TOP for Penn: 39:48. Yet only 311 total yards and 22 first downs. At least three of those came on penalties, maybe more. Nova had 11 for 77 yards.

[penguinpower]

3 turnovers. Less than 100 yards rushing and a lopsided TOP. That is what really sticks out to me. They gave up 311 yards on defense but they were on the field the whole game

[penguinpower]

TOP for Penn: 39:48. Yet only 311 total yards and 22 first downs. At least three of those came on penalties, maybe more. Nova had 11 for 77 yards.

Beat me to it

[centennial]

This is probably one of THE biggest FCS upsets I've seen in the last decade of following.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

This is probably one of THE biggest FCS upsets I've seen in the last decade of following.

Not quite imo. These teams play on a yearly basis and Penn has hung in most times. Given the injuries Villanova has faced it's not completely out of nowhere, relatively speaking. Still, it's a shocking score given Penn's struggles recently.

I think the Jacksonville-Delaware game was more surprising. Perhaps the fact that I follow Philly sports limits the shock value for me. I still remember a couple games that Penn had victory snatched from them by Villanova.

[Professor Chaos]

Contenders are dropping in the CAA like flies. JMU has to be the obvious favorite now. Perhaps SBU or W&M can make a run at it. Seems like Nova and UNH are both shells of last year's squads.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

So is this Penn's second highest ranked win during their FCS tenure? Perhaps the second highest ever for the Ivy League? I'm not going to mention who the highest is....

[Go...gate]

Looks like Bags left a couple of players behind when he left for Columbia.....

[KPSUL]

Which will be the bigger blowout, Nova over Penn or Notre Dame over UMass?

I'll take ND over UMass in the bet. How Much?

[Fordham]

oh ... my ... God

[Pard4Life]

So is this Penn's second highest ranked win during their FCS tenure? Perhaps the second highest ever for the Ivy League? I'm not going to mention who the highest is....

Lehigh was ranked too high.

*SIGH* Puck Fenn...

[KPSUL]

Contenders are dropping in the CAA like flies. JMU has to be the obvious favorite now. Perhaps SBU or W&M can make a run at it. Seems like Nova and UNH are both shells of last year's squads.

It looks like a tough season for both CAA wildcats. Fact is though, NOVA hasn't lost a conference game yet. I don't believe any conference team will go undefeated.

[KPSUL]

oh ... my ... God
careful, careful, the Pope's in town!

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Lehigh was ranked too high.

*SIGH* Puck Fenn...

Clearly. After 7 straight defeats at the hands of the Mountain Hawks Lafayette was able to beat the 2002 version....

[centennial]

Not quite imo. These teams play on a yearly basis and Penn has hung in most times. Given the injuries Villanova has faced it's not completely out of nowhere, relatively speaking. Still, it's a shocking score given Penn's struggles recently.

I think the Jacksonville-Delaware game was more surprising. Perhaps the fact that I follow Philly sports limits the shock value for me. I still remember a couple games that Penn had victory snatched from them by Villanova.
To be fair Sagarin has this game as 28 points towards Villanova. And Penn lost by 21 to Lehigh. In FBS terms this would be like Alabama losing to Colorado State. I thought this game would be an easy win, even with John Robertson out.

[paward]

Hmm talk about a power pickem gone wild!

[dewey]

Congratulations to Penn on the huge win over Villanova.

Dewey

[BisonFan02]

https://i.warosu.org/data/fa/img/0083/39/1402448735197.gif

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Love it Bison! Certainly cringe worthy!

[BisonFan02]

Love it Bison! Certainly cringe worthy!

I'm absolutely speechless about what has happened in a few of these games this year....note to self...don't pick a CAA team in an elimination pick em game (and I haven't...haha)

[jmrepak]

careful, careful, the Pope's in town!
Lol

[Mattymc727]

Holy ****!!!!

[HailSzczur]

This is what you get when you have to put 2 new O-linemen and a new quarterback out on a short week. Oh well. In the words of Bill Belicheck "on to William and Mary".....or is it on to next season?

Congrats to Penn though. Hopefully they don't have to wait another century for another win over us

[ngineer]

One never knows in this game. Amazing Penn came back so strong on a short week. While their offense showed some potential last week against Lehigh, their defense was pretty ineffective. Lehigh should have scored 56 but for some stupid penalties. Great win for Penn, though. After last year's atrocity and,now, a new coach it's a good springboard for the rest of their season. For 'nova, this could be devastating. Talley will have his hands full getting team's psyche back. Will be interesting to see.

[bonarae]

Wow. Weak versus weak? One of the best Ivy-non-PL upsets I have followed.


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[CHIP72]

Great to see the Quakers finally slay the Wildcats. Hopefully this will springboard Penn to an unexpectedly good season.

As for Villanova, they've seemed off from the very first game of the season, especially on offense (including when John Robertson was playing). They appear to be missing some of the departed 2014 seniors.

[PAllen]

Umm, yeah, so that happened. WTF is going on this season?

[crusader11]

Need an eyewitness account of this game, plz and thx.

[Lehigh'98]

Congrats Penn!! Big win. I wouldn't write Nova off just yet though. Many teams have struggled in Sept and turned it around.

[Go Green]

So is this Penn's second highest ranked win during their FCS tenure? Perhaps the second highest ever for the Ivy League? I'm not going to mention who the highest is....

Dartmouth tied then #3 UNH in 1990.

But for actual wins....

[Go Green]

Umm, yeah, so that happened. WTF is going on this season?

Any Given Thursday!

:)

[Ivytalk]

Dartmouth will teach Penn some humility next week. Right, GoGreen?xnodx

[Gangtackle11]

Need an eyewitness account of this game, plz and thx.

I was there. Penn played a spirited game from the opening kickoff. They moved the ball very effectively with mostly between the tackles for 5,6,7 yard runs & a short passing game. Villanova couldn't stop them from eating up the clock much of the 1st half and fell behind 14-0. The Nova OL gave little to none protection to QB Zach Bednarcyzk as he was under pressure on most throws. Stupid penalties gave Penn 1st downs & kept drives alive for Penn.

Villanova fumbled a kickoff also in the 1st half & went into half down 14-0. 2nd half started with Nova having to punt & Penn got a FG to make it 17-0. There it looked like Villanova was going to make it a game and possibly win a close one as they cut the lead to 17-7 and were driving with 10 or so minutes to go. The turning point was a fumble inside Penn's 10 that was scooped up and returned for a TD. Game could have been 17-14 instead went 24-7.

The Villanova offense is a mere shell of their high expectations. The offense was abysmal and in a game that the defense had to step up they were mediocre at best.

Penn played like they were #7 in the country not the Wildcats. Hats off to a Penn team that came in with a solid game and a tremendous team will to win.

As for Villanova,they have masqueraded as a top FCS team this season. Well the mask is off now & we'll see if they have enough talent and character to turn a once NC contending season back around. The team can still have a solid season, but it also it's at the inflection point. The way they played last night they won't win many more games.

Penn deserves all the accolades. An intrepid performance on the Main Line by them.

[HailSzczur]

Congrats Penn!! Big win. I wouldn't write Nova off just yet though. Many teams have struggled in Sept and turned it around.

Depends on what we look like against W&M. This was a short week, lots of guys injured so a lot of very green guys filling in. Give them almost a 1.5 weeks to heal up and get acclimated and we'll see if there's anything left of this season

[Gangtackle11]

Time of possession: Penn 39:48 Nova 20:12

'Nuff said.

[Catsfan90]

I am done playing the CAA pickem -__-

[HailSzczur]

Time of possession: Penn 39:48 Nova 20:12

'Nuff said.

We did quite well in the 2nd half. it was 24:15/5:30 at the half.

[KPSUL]

Someone should do a story on why Penn has fallen so far, so fast.

Stop the presses! Change the lead story headline! Why has Penn risen so far so fast!

[Nova09]

I'll try to put this in perspective without seeming like I'm making excuses or taking anything away from Penn:

Our coaches were mind boggling last night. I don't know what they were doing throughout the week. I get it, Penn new coach and you don't get any film on what Priore is running until Saturday night for a Thursday game, sucks but your professionals but in long hours this week and figure out a plan. It's like they just assumed (as message board posters suggested, but those on message boards are not coaches) that they could just play base vanilla on both sides of the ball and Penn would pose no resistance. Defense was not prepared for what Penn was doing until 3-4 drives in, offense wasn't given the green light to make some plays until halftime. Your o-line is depleted? I don't care how young/inexperienced your QB is don't try to hide him by continually running into a line that has been pushed backward. Get the ball out on quick throws and QB rollouts to keep the D moving and unable to tee off on the o-line. And let your QB prove himself in the redzone, if he fails at least you went down with what you had, don't give the great play/terrible play inconsistent 3rd RB a chance to fumble the game away (and I like him a lot for the future but he can't get the workload right now). I would have been fine with a pick 6 there for the same result, at least that would show you know your new QB has to put up or shut up. Absolutely mind blown by how our coaches handled the week.

As for the defense, not nearly as bad as many are suggesting. Yes, TOP is unacceptable. Yes, first drive we were unprepared. But then special teams gave a 2nd drive to penn before our o got on the filed/d got any rest, and they held. Then D got penn in 4th and 20, but someone roughed kicker. Can't blame the d for that, led to 2nd td. D essentially gave up nothing from that point on. A second half fg is no big deal if that's all you give up, but then the offense gave up a td, too. That's not on the d (obviously).

As for the o and all this talk of how bad they have been this year, that's way overstated. Am I disappointed they haven't finished drives better? Yes. But if you look at the Fordham game, they should have scored way more than 14. Yeah I know you only get credit for what you do score, but the line between their 14 and 35 was actually razor thin. Scored enough against UD to win 28-21, not really complaining about the could have beens and frustration throughout, end result was fine. UConn our offense realistically put in the effort of an 18-20 point game in a game that was close throughout and we more wanted to control tempo than have a shootout (not that UConn would shootout anyway) and, oh yeah, same UConn defense gave up nothing (1 score) on the road at ranked SEC opponent.

So in conclusion this is certainly a terrible day and I will accomplish nothing in the office and not enjoy the Saturday slate of games, but I can absolutely put my support behind this team going 7-1 in CAA once the coaches sit down and realize there is no playing it safe, it's all do or die, take the reins off and let athletes make plays. Am I predicting that record? No, we are more likely to lose multiple games and miss the playoffs. But this is still a team that can be really really good, the only problem is with all the personnel changes they have to figure out how to do that on the fly rather than through Spring ball, summer workouts, and preseason.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I'll try to put this in perspective without seeming like I'm making excuses or taking anything away from Penn:

Our coaches were mind boggling last night. I don't know what they were doing throughout the week. I get it, Penn new coach and you don't get any film on what Priore is running until Saturday night for a Thursday game...

Um, they played a game against Lehigh, you know... Did they even ask for game film?

[Gangtackle11]

I'll try to put this in perspective without seeming like I'm making excuses or taking anything away from Penn:

Our coaches were mind boggling last night. I don't know what they were doing throughout the week. I get it, Penn new coach and you don't get any film on what Priore is running until Saturday night for a Thursday game, sucks but your professionals but in long hours this week and figure out a plan. It's like they just assumed (as message board posters suggested, but those on message boards are not coaches) that they could just play base vanilla on both sides of the ball and Penn would pose no resistance. Defense was not prepared for what Penn was doing until 3-4 drives in, offense wasn't given the green light to make some plays until halftime. Your o-line is depleted? I don't care how young/inexperienced your QB is don't try to hide him by continually running into a line that has been pushed backward. Get the ball out on quick throws and QB rollouts to keep the D moving and unable to tee off on the o-line. And let your QB prove himself in the redzone, if he fails at least you went down with what you had, don't give the great play/terrible play inconsistent 3rd RB a chance to fumble the game away (and I like him a lot for the future but he can't get the workload right now). I would have been fine with a pick 6 there for the same result, at least that would show you know your new QB has to put up or shut up. Absolutely mind blown by how our coaches handled the week.

As for the defense, not nearly as bad as many are suggesting. Yes, TOP is unacceptable. Yes, first drive we were unprepared. But then special teams gave a 2nd drive to penn before our o got on the filed/d got any rest, and they held. Then D got penn in 4th and 20, but someone roughed kicker. Can't blame the d for that, led to 2nd td. D essentially gave up nothing from that point on. A second half fg is no big deal if that's all you give up, but then the offense gave up a td, too. That's not on the d (obviously).

As for the o and all this talk of how bad they have been this year, that's way overstated. Am I disappointed they haven't finished drives better? Yes. But if you look at the Fordham game, they should have scored way more than 14. Yeah I know you only get credit for what you do score, but the line between their 14 and 35 was actually razor thin. Scored enough against UD to win 28-21, not really complaining about the could have beens and frustration throughout, end result was fine. UConn our offense realistically put in the effort of an 18-20 point game in a game that was close throughout and we more wanted to control tempo than have a shootout (not that UConn would shootout anyway) and, oh yeah, same UConn defense gave up nothing (1 score) on the road at ranked SEC opponent.

So in conclusion this is certainly a terrible day and I will accomplish nothing in the office and not enjoy the Saturday slate of games, but I can absolutely put my support behind this team going 7-1 in CAA once the coaches sit down and realize there is no playing it safe, it's all do or die, take the reins off and let athletes make plays. Am I predicting that record? No, we are more likely to lose multiple games and miss the playoffs. But this is still a team that can be really really good, the only problem is with all the personnel changes they have to figure out how to do that on the fly rather than through Spring ball, summer workouts, and preseason.

You are spot on here.

[Nova09]

I was looking forward to celebrating a win with post 1000, but now it's like when you lay the groundwork all week to get with a girl Saturday night but by the time you show up to the party you're shocked to fine 4 others dudes just ran train. Am I still gonna finish? Damn right I'm already here but it abruptly lost the luster and now it's kinda more just getting it done to say I did.

Of course as I'm in the act I can't even enjoy it as instead my mind wanders to the club I'm joining and the old Groucho Marx lines comes to mind...if I can get in, there must be no standards. So I start to picture the cast of characters that has come before--the oldest and dearest little troll man who makes occasional non-sequitur appearances; followed closely in age by confused racist southern who doesn't realize all the wealth of all the nations of Israel combined could never buy a slave, as any potential slave would laugh at the very concept of a Jew "master"; of course scientists can only estimate the age of fearless leader manbear from the wilderness who subsists on alcohol and interjects a snarky comment when coming out of hibernation; then there's the former o-lineman turned biker-err, bicyclist-yeah, not a pretty image, who seems to live in a fantasy world where life hasn't passed him by and he holds some important leadership role in a strictly authoritarian regime; countered by the extreme liberalism of an IT guy who fits every. single. stereotype. of IT man, right down to the condescension and faux intellectualism; but I suppose condescension comes naturally when all the other rednecks running their mouths make it so easy; we do have a firefighter among us who I can't say anything bad about not due to reverence for firefighters, but because he is so self deprecating he has already beaten me to the punch. Then I remember all the app and gaso bros who aren't even around anymore they have such a superiority complex, although taking their sloppy seconds probably only feeds into the mindset, and what really stands out is who is missing: all the Ivy an Pl commenters, who come for a little fb talk and then leave quietly, realizing what buffoons we all are. And that's when the real depression sets in, as I must concede that I am not one of them; rather, I have allowed all of you to drag me down to that worst possible depth, that of a state schooler.

[YoUDeeMan]

This game is no shock to anyone who watched nova recently.

nova just isn't good this year.

nova wasn't very good with Robertson in there (he was not the Robertson of days gone by), and they didn't get any better when their already weak OL got severely depleted with more injuries. You simply won't win consistently without an OL...just not going to happen. And the lack of a good OL will usually spell trouble on the other side of the ball.

Nova's D is not going to win the LOS against a team with a big OL. They got gashed between the tackles against a one dimensional UD, and got gashed against Penn (PENN, folks!). Toss in a sputtering O, and that will keep nova's D on the field longer, making them even more susceptible to fatigue against bigger OLs, and it will be a long season for nova.

And, of course, special teams. xlolx Someone tell Talley that teams are allowed to get points if they kick the ball through the uprights.

Will the freshman QB be able to rally himself and the team to some wins? Probably not many. The kid threw some pretty pedestrian passes, nothing special, against UD but we ended up making him look like a Peyton Award winner. We can safely say that he won't win a lot if he spends most of his time running for his life. That OL is a killer for nova.

When the season is over, people will look back at this game and understand why nova couldn't beat, or score more than 13 points, against a team that just gave up 42 points.

[2ram]

congrats to Penn! very cool.

[PantherRob82]

Wow. Wtf

[tomq04]

I was looking forward to celebrating a win with post 1000, but now it's like when you lay the groundwork all week to get with a girl Saturday night but by the time you show up to the party you're shocked to fine 4 others dudes just ran train. Am I still gonna finish? Damn right I'm already here but it abruptly lost the luster and now it's kinda more just getting it done to say I did.

Of course as I'm in the act I can't even enjoy it as instead my mind wanders to the club I'm joining and the old Groucho Marx lines comes to mind...if I can get in, there must be no standards. So I start to picture the cast of characters that has come before--the oldest and dearest little troll man who makes occasional non-sequitur appearances; followed closely in age by confused racist southern who doesn't realize all the wealth of all the nations of Israel combined could never buy a slave, as any potential slave would laugh at the very concept of a Jew "master"; of course scientists can only estimate the age of fearless leader manbear from the wilderness who subsists on alcohol and interjects a snarky comment when coming out of hibernation; then there's the former o-lineman turned biker-err, bicyclist-yeah, not a pretty image, who seems to live in a fantasy world where life hasn't passed him by and he holds some important leadership role in a strictly authoritarian regime; countered by the extreme liberalism of an IT guy who fits every. single. stereotype. of IT man, right down to the condescension and faux intellectualism; but I suppose condescension comes naturally when all the other rednecks running their mouths make it so easy; we do have a firefighter among us who I can't say anything bad about not due to reverence for firefighters, but because he is so self deprecating he has already beaten me to the punch. Then I remember all the app and gaso bros who aren't even around anymore they have such a superiority complex, although taking their sloppy seconds probably only feeds into the mindset, and what really stands out is who is missing: all the Ivy an Pl commenters, who come for a little fb talk and then leave quietly, realizing what buffoons we all are. And that's when the real depression sets in, as I must concede that I am not one of them; rather, I have allowed all of you to drag me down to that worst possible depth, that of a state schooler.



BRAVO!!! Someone else must at least recognize this.

[Bisonator]

I was looking forward to celebrating a win with post 1000, but now it's like when you lay the groundwork all week to get with a girl Saturday night but by the time you show up to the party you're shocked to fine 4 others dudes just ran train. Am I still gonna finish? Damn right I'm already here but it abruptly lost the luster and now it's kinda more just getting it done to say I did.

Of course as I'm in the act I can't even enjoy it as instead my mind wanders to the club I'm joining and the old Groucho Marx lines comes to mind...if I can get in, there must be no standards. So I start to picture the cast of characters that has come before--the oldest and dearest little troll man who makes occasional non-sequitur appearances; followed closely in age by confused racist southern who doesn't realize all the wealth of all the nations of Israel combined could never buy a slave, as any potential slave would laugh at the very concept of a Jew "master"; of course scientists can only estimate the age of fearless leader manbear from the wilderness who subsists on alcohol and interjects a snarky comment when coming out of hibernation; then there's the former o-lineman turned biker-err, bicyclist-yeah, not a pretty image, who seems to live in a fantasy world where life hasn't passed him by and he holds some important leadership role in a strictly authoritarian regime; countered by the extreme liberalism of an IT guy who fits every. single. stereotype. of IT man, right down to the condescension and faux intellectualism; but I suppose condescension comes naturally when all the other rednecks running their mouths make it so easy; we do have a firefighter among us who I can't say anything bad about not due to reverence for firefighters, but because he is so self deprecating he has already beaten me to the punch. Then I remember all the app and gaso bros who aren't even around anymore they have such a superiority complex, although taking their sloppy seconds probably only feeds into the mindset, and what really stands out is who is missing: all the Ivy an Pl commenters, who come for a little fb talk and then leave quietly, realizing what buffoons we all are. And that's when the real depression sets in, as I must concede that I am not one of them; rather, I have allowed all of you to drag me down to that worst possible depth, that of a state schooler.

I'm still laughing....xlolx

[Gangtackle11]

This game is no shock to anyone who watched nova recently.

nova just isn't good this year.

nova wasn't very good with Robertson in there (he was not the Robertson of days gone by), and they didn't get any better when their already weak OL got severely depleted with more injuries. You simply won't win consistently without an OL...just not going to happen. And the lack of a good OL will usually spell trouble on the other side of the ball.

Nova's D is not going to win the LOS against a team with a big OL. They got gashed between the tackles against a one dimensional UD, and got gashed against Penn (PENN, folks!). Toss in a sputtering O, and that will keep nova's D on the field longer, making them even more susceptible to fatigue against bigger OLs, and it will be a long season for nova.

And, of course, special teams. xlolx Someone tell Talley that teams are allowed to get points if they kick the ball through the uprights.

Will the freshman QB be able to rally himself and the team to some wins? Probably not many. The kid threw some pretty pedestrian passes, nothing special, against UD but we ended up making him look like a Peyton Award winner. We can safely say that he won't win a lot if he spends most of his time running for his life. That OL is a killer for nova.

When the season is over, people will look back at this game and understand why nova couldn't beat, or score more than 13 points, against a team that just gave up 42 points.

Can't argue with what you are saying. Offensive line is beat up, but it's evident that the escapability of JR masqueraded their deficiencies to block effectively. The special teams were a disaster last night several ways (fumble on ko, bad snap on pat, running into punter, a block in the back on another ko.) The kicking game has to be addressed, but hasn't been to date.

[melloware13]

I am done playing the CAA pickem -__-
I think almost everyone picked Nova, like it seemed that most people picked UD over Jacksonville in Week 1.

[Catsfan90]

I think almost everyone picked Nova, like it seemed that most people picked UD over Jacksonville in Week 1.
Haha so hopefully it evens out!

[Go Green]

Dartmouth will teach Penn some humility next week. Right, GoGreen?xnodx

We have experience knocking off a league opponent coming off a big OOC upset. See Dartmouth v. Yale 2014 and Dartmouth v. Yale 2013.

Hopefully we can make it three in a row.

But first things first-- we have Sacred Heart tomorrow.

[Pard4Life]

We have experience knocking off a league opponent coming off a big OOC upset. See Dartmouth v. Yale 2014 and Dartmouth v. Yale 2013.

Hopefully we can make it three in a row.

But first things first-- we have Sacred Heart tomorrow.

They were blown out by Marist. Of all the years, this would have been a good one to play UNH.

[Ivytalk]

We have experience knocking off a league opponent coming off a big OOC upset. See Dartmouth v. Yale 2014 and Dartmouth v. Yale 2013.

Hopefully we can make it three in a row.

But first things first-- we have Sacred Heart tomorrow.
Indeed. My money is on the Green. Not a lot, but some.

[Son of Eli]

This is huge surprise! Penn has played Villanova tough over the years but have lost every time. Some of the losses in the mid 2000's were brutally painful iirc.

So over the last 3 years the IL has a win over a respectable Big Sky program, a really good CAA program and a 1A team? Not too shabby. Good chance the league goes 3-0 against the CAA this year. I know, 2 wins would be against URI. Still better than the PL.....
Yale plays Maine this year so there is the opportunity for the Ivy League to go 4-0 against the CAA.

[aceinthehole]

Wow. Weak versus weak? One of the best Ivy-non-PL upsets I have followed.


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How many total "Ivy-non-PL" wins have even happened in the last 20 years?

[bonarae]

Most significant:
Yale-Cal Poly
Yale-Army
Penn-Villanova

The others are all but irrelevant (i.e. NEC, now-ex-FCS, cellar-dwellers, PFL).