Patriot League Pick 'em - Week 1

[carney2]

Let’s start early and avoid the rush. It’s a new season. Everyone has high hopes. Here we go:

Friday Games:
FORDHAM @ Army
LEHIGH @ Central Connecticut

Saturday Games:
COLGATE @ Navy
GEORGETOWN @ St. Francis (PA)
HOLY CROSS @ Monmouth
Marist @ BUCKNELL
William & Mary @ LAFAYETTE

[bonarae]

My picks:

Fordham
Lehigh - not sure here, probably a toss-up
Navy
St. Francis
Holy Cross - toss-up?
Bucknell
W&M

[RichH2]

Thanks csrney. Now the season is real. As usual with LU, there is little info as to starters much less to 2 deep. Supposed to be some announcements today. Guess,I'll see what's said and then make my usual homer picks :)

[Fordham]

Lehigh
HC
Bucknell

PL wins IMO

[Gangtackle11]

Friday Games:
FORDHAM @ Army
LEHIGH @ Central Connecticut

Saturday Games:
COLGATE @ Navy
GEORGETOWN @ St. Francis (PA)
HOLY CROSS @ Monmouth
Marist @ BUCKNELL
William & Mary @ LAFAYETTE

[Southsider]

Friday Games:
FORDHAM @ Army
LEHIGH @ Central Connecticut

Saturday Games:
COLGATE @ Navy
GEORGETOWN @ St. Francis (PA)
HOLY CROSS @ Monmouth
Marist @ BUCKNELL
William & Mary @ LAFAYETTE

This looks about right! The Cross board will have a meltdown after losing to the Hawks. Pards do have a shot. We'll see!

[RichH2]

Friday Games:
FORDHAM @ Army
LEHIGH @ Central Connecticut

Saturday Games:
COLGATE @ Navy
GEORGETOWN @ St. Francis (PA)
HOLY CROSS @ Monmouth
Marist @ BUCKNELL
William & Mary @ LAFAYETTE
Looks good. Expect Purples will go nuts. :)
Think Hoyas have a shot in this one.

[Ivytalk]

Friday Games:
FORDHAM @ Army
LEHIGH @ Central Connecticut

Saturday Games:
COLGATE @ Navy
GEORGETOWN @ St. Francis (PA)
HOLY CROSS @ Monmouth
Marist @ BUCKNELL
William & Mary @ LAFAYETTE
Agreed, except I'm gonna pick the Hoyas in an upset special.

[2ram]

Agreed, except I'm gonna pick the Hoyas in an upset special.


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[Ivytalk]

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Life is too short to be conventional.

[ngineer]

Fordham can win this game, though Army should be favored. But not shocked if Rams can knock off the Black Knights. Army, 28-24.

Lehigh with a brand new backfield, a freshman kicker, a totally new defensive scheme so who knows. But a lot of good vibes at the annual steak fry today, so I'm going with the good guys. One never knows what CCSU is like from year to year with the number of transfers. Lehigh, 27-17.

Colgate will have their hands full at Annapolis. Heavy underdogs. Navy, 38-14

I'll take the Hoyas over St. Francis. Gtown better than perceived, 20-17

Crusaders in a wild high scoring game at Monmouth. I see this as a toss-up. HC 42-38.

Bison stampede, 31-10

Bill and Mary favored, but 'pards capable of knocking them off as they did a couple years ago. Tribe, 28-24.

[carney2]

FORDHAM @ Army – The Rams are the best in the Patriot League, but have been overrated in the preseason polls. They now spend the first two weeks of the season proving it.

LEHIGH @ Central Connecticut – The Squawks prove that they are better than another 3 win team from last year.

COLGATE @ Navy – Blowout!

GEORGETOWN @ St. Francis (PA) – Not really much of an upset.

HOLY CROSS @ Monmouth – A loss here and the Cross is looking at the bottom falling out again.

Marist @ BUCKNELL – Please pass the first cupcake to Mr. Susan.

William & Mary @ LAFAYETTE – The Pards win if Laycock unleashes his Marys.

[DFW HOYA]

Not a good opening week for the PL.

Army 35, Fordham 17
Lehigh 23, CCSU 17
St. Francis 16, Georgetown 7
Navy 28, Colgate 10
Monmouth 23, Holy Cross 21
Bucknell 42, Marist 6
William & Mary 31, Lafayette 21

[KPSUL]

Friday Games:
FORDHAM @ Army: Army 31-24. Fordham couldn't beat them with Nebrich, they won't beat them without him.
LEHIGH @ Central Connecticut: Lehigh 24-21. The First step on the road back to previous greatness.

Saturday Games:
COLGATE @Navy: Navy 45-10 Hopefully the middies beat-em up pretty good before the UNH game the following week.
GEORGETOWN @ St. Francis (PA): Georgetown 14-13 St Francis punishment for scheduling a school with a PO Box for an address this season
HOLY CROSS @ Monmouth: Monmouth 24-17. I saw them beat Liberty in Lynchburg last year, it may be clouding my thinking.
Marist @ BUCKNELL: Bison 38-10. At least that bad.
William & Mary @ LAFAYETTE: Bill and Mary 34-12. They take out their 2014 frustrations on the unsuspecting Pards.

[2ram]

it's "army west point" now gentlemen. sheesh.

can't wait to see that roll across the ticker on cbs.

[Fordham]

Friday Games:
FORDHAM @ Army: Army 31-24. Fordham couldn't beat them with Nebrich, they won't beat them without him.


Yeah, I'm surprised to see so many either pick us or pick us to keep it close. An incredibly senior/5th year laden squad could not keep from getting whooped 42 - 31 last year. Our first game of the season with pretty much an entirely new roster and now we're supposed to beat them? I sure hope so but honestly just strikes me as either wishful thinking (if made by a Fordham fan/supporter) or ignorance.

My expectation (and what I thought was best case scenario) is that we take a bit of a beating in these first two weeks but it pays off down the road by having us tuned up to gel during the PL season.

[carney2]

it's "army west point" now gentlemen. sheesh.

can't wait to see that roll across the ticker on cbs.

Yeah, as opposed to Army ... what? Some freakin' genius got paid real money to "think" that up. Earlier this century the folks at Pitt decreed that it would henceforth be Pittsburgh and not Pitt. That worked out real well too.

[RichH2]

Fordham Army. A game but Rams too new at most every spot. ARMY
Lehigh CCSU. Should just be a shake out game for LU. Wont be.
LEHIGH
Colgate Navy. Gate will make it a game for a while before getting mauled. Just hope no major injuries. NAVY
Bucknell Marist. First of 4 cupcakes. A romp. BUCKNELL
Hoyas SFU Lack of schollies does not make GU a bad team. HOYAS
William & Mary. Lafayette Reed gives Pards a real shot in every game.OL and run game unknown.
Bill & Mary
Holy Cross Monmouth. Pujols probably best QB in PL. Purples' D may be better. HOLY CROSS

[Pard4Life]

It’s a new season. Everyone has high hopes.


Even you? :D

Eh, I've accepted it... 6-5 here we come... or 5-6... OL will disappoint again.

[jimbo65]

Fordham Based on heart not mind.
Lehigh
Navy What will the spread be on this game.
GTown
Bucknell
William & Mary

[Bill]

Friday Games:
FORDHAM @ Army - United States Military Academy, 28-12. What a great setting for college football.
LEHIGH @ Central Connecticut - Lehigh, 33-14. I refuse to pick against my alma mater in this one. If I'm wrong, we are in deep trouble.

Saturday Games:
COLGATE @ Navy - Navy, 42-16. Love the ambitious scheduling, though. Another great college football setting.
GEORGETOWN @ St. Francis (PA) - Hoyas, 10-9. Why not? (rhetorical question. don't answer that)
HOLY CROSS @ Monmouth - Monmouth, 28-25. I love Gimore...but can't pick HC yet.
Marist @ BUCKNELL - Bucknell, 28-10. Is that a red velvet cupcake, Carney?
William & Mary @ LAFAYETTE- W&M, 34-20. I would love LC to win, for the sake of the league, but no faith in Tavani here.

[RichH2]

Nostalgia. Do miss the old voy forums and the Marquis. We really should have a PL forum.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Nostalgia. Do miss the old voy forums and the Marquis. We really should have a PL forum.

Uh oh. Is that a challenge? xconfusedx ;)

[RichH2]

Uh oh. Is that a challenge? xconfusedx ;)
HeHEHE... You got me to thinking today. Always a dangerous thing :)
Know we've all ralked about it over the years. Just wondered how the rest of the PL crew felt about it.

[carney2]

HeHEHE... You got me to thinking today. Always a dangerous thing :)
Know we've all ralked about it over the years. Just wondered how the rest of the PL crew felt about it.

Let's see, I have

Lafayette Forum - Very active and very good for the key parts of the year
AGS - Always something of interest. And always a thread to be hijacked by the PL
Holy Cross and Bucknell forums - A bit too basketbally for my tastes, but interesting and packed with knowledgeable people.
Fordham forum - Football only for me, but pretty good.

Honestly, I'm just about forumed out for now.

[Bill]

Yes, but if we did that, we'd miss all the playful banter with citdog xnodx(who by the way, is definitely one of my favorite posters).

[carney2]

Eh, I've accepted it... 6-5 here we come... or 5-6... OL will disappoint again.

What you say is true, but as flyfisher says on the Lafayette board, it's a thrill just to be at this point (football season) again.

Oh yeah, we're beating Princeton this year. You can take it to the bank. It's my Joe Willy Namath guarantee. If we don't I will donate my CD of No. 150 to a good cause.

[Bill]

Oh yeah, we're beating Princeton this year. You can take it to the bank. It's my Joe Willy Namath guarantee. If we don't I will donate my CD of No. 150 to a good cause.

Carney - I instantly started work on a photoshop of your avatar superimposed on the famous Mark Messier Daily News page....and then realized my photoshop skills are not up to the task. Bogie, are you out there??? Paging Bogie.....

[Lehigh Football Nation]

What you say is true, but as flyfisher says on the Lafayette board, it's a thrill just to be at this point (football season) again.

Oh yeah, we're beating Princeton this year. You can take it to the bank. It's my Joe Willy Namath guarantee. If we don't I will donate my CD of No. 150 to a good cause.

Does "a good cause" involve Gallagher's sledgehammer?

[Bill]

It's rough, I know:

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21213&stc=1

[carney2]

Very nicely done, Bill. But, no Joe Willy guarantee?

[RichH2]

Yes, but if we did that, we'd miss all the playful banter with citdog xnodx(who by the way, is definitely one of my favorite posters).
Mine also. No proscription on staying on AGS. Betting that if we did get one citdog would pop up sooner or later :)

[Sandlapper Spike]

Friday Games:
FORDHAM @ Army
LEHIGH @ Central Connecticut

Saturday Games:
COLGATE @ Navy
GEORGETOWN @ St. Francis (PA)
HOLY CROSS @ Monmouth
Marist @ BUCKNELL
William & Mary @ LAFAYETTE

[PAllen]

While I'd love to see all PL victories, it could very easily be all losses.

I'll go with:

Army big (though FU will keep it close until the second half)
Lehigh in a close one
Navy bigger
Georgetown by a little
Holy Cross by a hair
Bucknell by a little
W&M comfortably

[PAllen]

it's "army west point" now gentlemen. sheesh.

can't wait to see that roll across the ticker on cbs.

As opposed to Army - Hood, Army - Benning, and the ever increasingly popular, Army - Online.

[LC1142]

Let’s start early and avoid the rush. It’s a new season. Everyone has high hopes. Here we go:

Friday Games:
FORDHAM @ Army
LEHIGH @ Central Connecticut

Saturday Games:
COLGATE @ Navy
GEORGETOWN @ St. Francis (PA)
HOLY CROSS @ Monmouth
Marist @ BUCKNELL
William & Mary @ LAFAYETTE

Army 24-14
Lehigh 31-27
Navy 34-7
GT 21-10
HC 28-17
Bucknell 34-10
W&M 34-14

[KillaBee]

I believe the Leopards will win against William and Mary. lets not forget Lafayette just beat them in Easton 2 years ago. I am a newcomer to this site, and am making a BOLD prediction...lol

Lafayette will surprise many, and on here it all will start week 1.

GO PARDS!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lehigh Football Nation]

TOWSON WILL WIN YES YES YES!!!!

Old timers will get the reference.

[2ram]

Fordham​ (homered it!)
Lehigh
Navy
St. Francis
Holy Cross
Bucknell
William & Mary

[Go...gate]

Yes, but if we did that, we'd miss all the playful banter with citdog xnodx(who by the way, is definitely one of my favorite posters).

Agreed - citdog is an honorary Patriot League guy, AFAIAC.

[Tribe4SF]

I believe the Leopards will win against William and Mary. lets not forget Lafayette just beat them in Easton 2 years ago. I am a newcomer to this site, and am making a BOLD prediction...lol

Lafayette will surprise many, and on here it all will start week 1.

GO PARDS!!!!!!!!!!!

The Pards beat the Tribe 17-14 three years ago in Williamsburg in the Lightning Game when the entire offensive side of the Tribe locker room took a direct hit. The game heralded one of the worst seasons of the Laycock era.

[RichH2]

Agreed - citdog is an honorary Patriot League guy, AFAIAC.
+1

[LC1142]

The Pards beat the Tribe 17-14 three years ago in Williamsburg in the Lightning Game when the entire offensive side of the Tribe locker room took a direct hit. The game heralded one of the worst seasons of the Laycock era.

Wait a minute now. i was at that game, stayed the whole time through the lightning storm, and was even in the W&M locker room after the game. Not sure what you mean by the entire offensive side of the Tribe locker room taking a direct hit. Locker room looked fine to me.

What i do remember is a mud bowl where the W&M Qb's threw between 4-6 interceptions and could not hit water if they were sitting in a row boat. I felt bad for the QB's. It was painful to watch.

[LC1142]

I believe the Leopards will win against William and Mary. lets not forget Lafayette just beat them in Easton 2 years ago. I am a newcomer to this site, and am making a BOLD prediction...lol

Lafayette will surprise many, and on here it all will start week 1.

GO PARDS!!!!!!!!!!!

Love your enthusiasm but i seriously doubt it.

[Tribe4SF]

Wait a minute now. i was at that game, stayed the whole time through the lightning storm, and was even in the W&M locker room after the game. Not sure what you mean by the entire offensive side of the Tribe locker room taking a direct hit. Locker room looked fine to me.

What i do remember is a mud bowl where the W&M Qb's threw between 4-6 interceptions and could not hit water if they were sitting in a row boat. I felt bad for the QB's. It was painful to watch.

You guys have interesting memories. Tribe QBs threw only one pick, but the starter was awful that night. Tribe produced less than 200 yds of total offense. A lightning strike is the only thing that could explain how bad the offense was that night. And there was no mud. The field is synthetic.

[NY Crusader 2010]

Army
Holy Cross
William & Mary
Lehigh
St. Francis
Bucknell
Navy

[eiu1999]

Friday Games:
FORDHAM @ Army
LEHIGH @ Central Connecticut

Saturday Games:
COLGATE @ Navy
GEORGETOWN @ St. Francis (PA)
HOLY CROSS @ Monmouth
Marist @ BUCKNELL
William & Mary @ LAFAYETTE

[FordhamFan]

​Nice to have football back, fellas


Friday Games:
FORDHAM @ Army - Army by 10-17 points
LEHIGH @ Central Connecticut - Lehigh by 3-10 points

Saturday Games:
COLGATE @ Navy - Navy big, 24+
GEORGETOWN @ St. Francis (PA) - St. Francis by 7-10
HOLY CROSS @ Monmouth - Jersey bias in me says Monmouth by 4 or less
Marist @ BUCKNELL - Bucknell by 14-21
William & Mary @ LAFAYETTE - William and Mary by 17-20

[Lehigh'98]

Been a tough week. Lost a teammate and a friend from Lehigh on Saturday. He was an All PL OT in 1997. More importantly though, he was a class act and a great friend. Good to have football back soon.

Friday Games:
FORDHAM @ Army - Army
LEHIGH @ Central Connecticut - CCSU

Saturday Games:
COLGATE @ Navy - Navy
GEORGETOWN @ St. Francis (PA) - St. Francis
HOLY CROSS @ Monmouth - Monmouth
Marist @ BUCKNELL - Bucknell
William & Mary @ LAFAYETTE - William and Mary

[LC1142]

You guys have interesting memories. Tribe QBs threw only one pick, but the starter was awful that night. Tribe produced less than 200 yds of total offense. A lightning strike is the only thing that could explain how bad the offense was that night. And there was no mud. The field is synthetic.

Not a mud bowl but soaking wet all night. Been to many games in the old stadium. Game did not end until after 11 with what I think was a 6-7pm start . Laycock was pretty upset that night. After game when recruits came in the locker room he did not want them in there very long. Asst coaches said that was the first time in years he took no time for recruits that night. I thought the qb's threw more picks than that but they sure played terrible.

[BucBisonAtLarge]

Army
Holy Cross
William & Mary
Lehigh
Georgetown
Bucknell
Navy

[RichH2]

FWIW
Massey
LU 31-28
SFU 28-20
Navy 38-7
Monmouth 28-24
BU 28-7
W&M 27-20
Army. 35-28

[Fordhamanhattan]

FORDHAM out duels the BLACK KNIGHTS of the HUDSON to post the Maroon's first victory in a series that began in 1891 (West Point's first win was over Fordham which was then known as St. John's College). 48-28
Kevin Anderson may not have the passing touch of Mike Nebrich but he is a good runner which will add another dimension to the Ram attack. I think the Ram defense, particularly the front seven will be stronger and quicker than last years cast. I do have a concern about our corners but this may not be a factor against the Army attack.
THE ERSTWHILE ENGINEERS over the New Britaineers as scholarship impact becomes evident. 34-14
THE MIDSHIPMEN pastes COLGATE 34-21
THE HOYA over the ST. FRANCIS 23-21
MONMOUTH too much at home against THE CROSS 38-35
THE BISON BY A LOT over the once MARIST COLLEGE (there is not one Marist priest or brother on campus) 45-14
THE USURPERS over the LEOPARDS 24-7

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Here's hoping everyone stays healthy through camp. So far there's been no mention of any significant injuries which is great!

Army 31 Fordham 23 - Breaking in several new faces against a FBS team, even a bad one, is usually not a recipe for success. The Rams will be solid but the first two games are brutal...

Lehigh 34 CCSU 24 - Lose this and it will be a looong year. Year two for the OC and DC and the defense will be noticeably bigger. Those are the tangible differences. Everything else will play out....

Navy 59 Colgate 24 - The Raiders, like Fordham, have two brutal games to start. Keenan Reynolds is a ridiculously talented option QB who will eat Colgate alive. He's likely to break the NCAA record for career rushing TD's this year. He needs 14 to break it. O/U is 4.5 against Colgate.....

Monmouth 27 Holy Cross 24 - The Hawks have posted back 2 back 6 win seasons in the pretty tough Big South. If this game was in Worcester I'd take the Crusaders. This is a good tape measure game for HC to start with imo.

Georgetown 23 St. Francis 13 - A little PL homerism. Although, I do think the Hoyas will be "competitive" in the PL.

Bucknell 41 Marist 10 - This is a game where the Bison need to come out and make statement for themselves and the league. No messing around with a PFL team...

W&M 30 Lafayette 24 - W&M is a good but not great CAA team by most accounts. Lafayette needs to be in it to win it on their home field. I think they come up just a little short....

[RichH2]

No Marist Brothers?Dont they tran there any longer?

[Fordhamanhattan]

Nope. Marist is Marist in name only.

[carney2]

I believe the Leopards will win against William and Mary. lets not forget Lafayette just beat them in Easton 2 years ago. I am a newcomer to this site, and am making a BOLD prediction...lol

Lafayette will surprise many, and on here it all will start week 1.

GO PARDS!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually, it was three years ago, and @ Williamsburg in a game interrupted by lightning. Two years ago in Easton it was a 34-6 blowout by W&M.

The word out of Easton is that the Pards will have 2, and maybe 3, freshmen starting in the O-line. Never a good sign, and a particularly bad sign for a team that hasn't had even a mediocre offensive line since 2009.

[RedFlash]

Friday Games:
Army
Lehigh

Saturday Games:
Navy
St. Francis (PA) (Go Flash!)
Monmouth
Bucknell
William & Mary

[Pard4Life]

Actually, it was three years ago, and @ Williamsburg in a game interrupted by lightning. Two years ago in Easton it was a 34-6 blowout by W&M.

The word out of Easton is that the Pards will have 2, and maybe 3, freshmen starting in the O-line. Never a good sign, and a particularly bad sign for a team that hasn't had even a mediocre offensive line since 2009.

Yeah, we are in for another rough season despite having the best defense in the PL. My take:

WM - L
Delaware - L
Princeton - L (not because they are better, but just because... you know)
Wagner - L
Fordham - L
Georgetown - W
Harvard - L
Holy Cross - W
Bucknell - W
Colgate - W
Lehigh - W

I can even see us winning only three games.

[Ken_Z]

Friday Games:
FORDHAM @ Army
LEHIGH @ Central Connecticut

Saturday Games:
COLGATE @ Navy
GEORGETOWN @ St. Francis (PA)
HOLY CROSS @ Monmouth
Marist @ BUCKNELL
William & Mary @ LAFAYETTE


This looks about right!


NO! NO! NO! the only part that matters looks all wrong! BUCKNELL should be in orange

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Yeah, we are in for another rough season despite having the best defense in the PL. My take:

WM - L
Delaware - L
Princeton - L (not because they are better, but just because... you know)
Wagner - L
Fordham - L
Georgetown - W
Harvard - L
Holy Cross - W
Bucknell - W
Colgate - W
Lehigh - W

I can even see us winning only three games.

Best scenario 5-6... I've seen this movie before.

[carney2]

Yeah, we are in for another rough season despite having the best defense in the PL. My take:

WM - L
Delaware - L
Princeton - L (not because they are better, but just because... you know)
Wagner - L
Fordham - L
Georgetown - W
Harvard - L
Holy Cross - W
Bucknell - W
Colgate - W
Lehigh - W

I can even see us winning only three games.

Not disagreeing, but I see Princeton going the opposite of your predictions. Also, Bucknell AND Colgate is not a daily double that I am taking to the bank. In any event, it's all that "great recruiting" that I keep hearing about coming to the fore.

[KillaBee]

Yeah, we are in for another rough season despite having the best defense in the PL. My take:

WM - L
Delaware - L
Princeton - L (not because they are better, but just because... you know)
Wagner - L
Fordham - L
Georgetown - W
Harvard - L
Holy Cross - W
Bucknell - W
Colgate - W
Lehigh - W

I can even see us winning only three games.


Are you serious? Do you believe in ever winning? Are you saying the kids on this team are not good enough to compete?

[Sader87]

I could just as easily see HC go 2-9 as they could go 9-2 this year....maybe the strangest HC schedule of the last 70 years. Hardly a game you could say they have no shot of winning and vice versa.

[carney2]

Are you saying the kids on this team are not good enough to compete?

Compete with whom?

W&M? No they're not.
Delaware? Probably not.
Fordham? No.
Harvard? No.

Everyone else on the schedule? Yes, but history says that they won't do it week in and week out. As P4L and LFN say, 5-6, maybe 6-5. All that "great" recruiting, ya know. Quoting LFN, "I've seen this movie before." And it's no better in 2015 reruns than it was in 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014. You can give a big "Rah Rah for the home team," but when they suk, they suk.

[KillaBee]

Compete with whom?

W&M? No they're not.
Delaware? Probably not.
Fordham? No.
Harvard? No.

Everyone else on the schedule? Yes, but history says that they won't do it week in and week out. As P4L and LFN say, 5-6, maybe 6-5. All that "great" recruiting, ya know. Quoting LFN, "I've seen this movie before." And it's no better in 2015 reruns than it was in 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014. You can give a big "Rah Rah for the home team," but when they suk, they suk.


Listen carefully and hear the goals.. National competitor.. Change is a great thing!! RAH RAH RAH...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L3sPzpi3B4

[carney2]

Listen carefully and hear the goals.. National competitor.. Change is a great thing!! RAH RAH RAH...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L3sPzpi3B4

Enjoying your optimism and envying your enthusiasm. Keep it up. I frankly admit to having been worn down by the losing without end. So, give me a little of whatever it is you're drinkin', smokin', snortin', ...

[LC1142]

Listen carefully and hear the goals.. National competitor.. Change is a great thing!! RAH RAH RAH...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L3sPzpi3B4

Killa, ignore Carney. Even in the best of times he still complains. You can se that from his posts here. He wouldnt recognize a good recruiting class if it hit him between the eyes. But then he should not be expected to. he doesnt have the knowledge or skill set to recognize the talent. He relies on ratings, other offers and such. the recruiting continues to get better, especially this class. The question becomes is it better than your competitors? Are the Pards gaining ground on their competition?

[CFBfan]

Killa, ignore Carney. Even in the best of times he still complains. You can se that from his posts here. He wouldnt recognize a good recruiting class if it hit him between the eyes. But then he should not be expected to. he doesnt have the knowledge or skill set to recognize the talent. He relies on ratings, other offers and such. the recruiting continues to get better, especially this class. The question becomes is it better than your competitors? Are the Pards gaining ground on their competition?

if it isn't and they aren't then the recruiting has NOT gotten any better!!!!! time will tell

[RichH2]

Killa, ignore Carney. Even in the best of times he still complains. You can se that from his posts here. He wouldnt recognize a good recruiting class if it hit him between the eyes. But then he should not be expected to. he doesnt have the knowledge or skill set to recognize the talent. He relies on ratings, other offers and such. the recruiting continues to get better, especially this class. The question becomes is it better than your competitors? Are the Pards gaining ground on their competition?
I've learned over the years not to understimate carney's acumen in assessing PL recruiting.
The key is not how good your new recruits are but,how much they improve your team in comparison to your opponents. Every schollie PL team has brought in better classes the last few years. Has any one team improved more than the rest. Well,we'll see over the next 2-3 years.

[Franks Tanks]

Compete with whom?

W&M? No they're not.
Delaware? Probably not.
Fordham? No.
Harvard? No.

Everyone else on the schedule? Yes, but history says that they won't do it week in and week out. As P4L and LFN say, 5-6, maybe 6-5. All that "great" recruiting, ya know. Quoting LFN, "I've seen this movie before." And it's no better in 2015 reruns than it was in 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014. You can give a big "Rah Rah for the home team," but when they suk, they suk.

Given the status of the o-line, it may be another super frustrating year for the Leopards. We will probably lack consistency, which I think gets some of us long time fans most upset. One game the Pards look like contenders, and the next like they just met each other yesterday. I think our D will be very good, but our run game will probably stink, and unless Drew Reed can turn back into Superman our offense will sputter.

LFN shouldn't start talking smack, as I think we are still better than Lehigh.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Given the status of the o-line, it may be another super frustrating year for the Leopards. We will probably lack consistency, which I think gets some of us long time fans most upset. One game the Pards look like contenders, and the next like they just met each other yesterday. I think our D will be very good, but our run game will probably stink, and unless Drew Reed can turn back into Superman our offense will sputter.

LFN shouldn't start talking smack, as I think we are still better than Lehigh.

Merely reporting Pard fans' self-assessment of their team. I'm focused on how Lehigh can beat CCSU 7 days from today. xnodx

[RichH2]

Given the status of the o-line, it may be another super frustrating year for the Leopards. We will probably lack consistency, which I think gets some of us long time fans most upset. One game the Pards look like contenders, and the next like they just met each other yesterday. I think our D will be very good, but our run game will probably stink, and unless Drew Reed can turn back into Superman our offense will sputter.

LFN shouldn't start talking smack, as I think we are still better than Lehigh.
Smack? It's preseason FT. Expect LU fans may have a more stressful season than Pard fans. We could be very good,meh,or very bad not only from game to game but from minute to minute :). If you enjoy roller coaster rides,this season will be fun. Optimistic that we may figure it out by PL schedule. We're just so darned lucky to start with Bison and Rams on the road.

[Franks Tanks]

Smack? It's preseason FT. Expect LU fans may have a more stressful season than Pard fans. We could be very good,meh,or very bad not only from game to game but from minute to minute :). If you enjoy roller coaster rides,this season will be fun. Optimistic that we may figure it out by PL schedule. We're just so darned lucky to start with Bison and Rams on the road.

Looking at bit forward to Laf/Lehigh already. The Pards have some exciting games this year, notably against the Blue Hens, but it is most likely that neither of our squads will be playing for a championship this year. Laf/Lehigh will most likely be for pride, and for the winning team to feel a bit better about themselves.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Looking at bit forward to Laf/Lehigh already. The Pards have some exciting games this year, notably against the Blue Hens, but it is most likely that neither of our squads will be playing for a championship this year. Laf/Lehigh will most likely be for pride, and for the winning team to feel a bit better about themselves.

Glad you guys think so.

[carney2]

I'm focused on how Lehigh can beat CCSU 7 days from today. xnodx

Just show up. If the Squawks can't win this one it's going to be another long season on Potty Mountain.

[Fordhamanhattan]

Just announced, ex Fordham tight end Dan Light signed with Denver Broncos. From all indications, he was headed to being drafted before an ACL in last years Army game. A strong athletic young man, he played quarterback in high school.

[smilo]

LOL, this thread got off topic in a hurry - just my picks, friends.

Friday Games:
Army
LEHIGH

Saturday Games:
Navy
St. Francis (PA)
Monmouth
BUCKNELL
William & Mary

[RichH2]

LOL, this thread got off topic in a hurry - just my picks, friends.

Friday Games:
Army
LEHIGH

Saturday Games:
Navy
St. Francis (PA)
Monmouth
BUCKNELL
William & Mary
:)PL threads rarely stay on topic for very long.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I could talk about the Amazon print release of my book, on track to be released worldwide next week.....

[KillaBee]

Enjoying your optimism and envying your enthusiasm. Keep it up. I frankly admit to having been worn down by the losing without end. So, give me a little of whatever it is you're drinkin', smokin', snortin', ...


Carney,, I'm enjoying your conversation. Nope, sorry no alcohol or illegal substances here. I'm sorry you have been a fan for so long and have not enjoyed your cheering voice of lately. I would hope you are not Brown pretending to be Maroon. If that is the case it would explain your thoughts. Maybe we should call Mr. Goodell and have you suspended for 4 games. I have learned that crafty people come in different shades. Like that duck that had a cigarette in his mouth.

Nevertheless, the leopards are my HOME TEAM, and I will support them.

Just to let you know, the coaches, players, even the leopard running around waving, cheerleaders, the band and all the great fans will all embrace you in the end and allow you to sit up front for the playoff game this 2015!!!!

GO PARDS!!!! ROLL PARDS!!!!


However don't push too hard for I will consider unleashing the leopard squad to revoke your pass, because you cheering voice has seemed to revert to eternal jargon. In November I hope we will continue to have this conversation, because you will respect the fact that my principles are set on a strong foundation.

Keep your stats, your leather helmet, your 3 or 4 stars and begin to recognize HEART!!!

[Ken_Z]

your 2015 week 1 Patriot League picks brought to you by the branding brain trust of Army West Point:

Army West Point > Fordham Brooklyn : because we were the first to think of this branding approach
Lehigh Bethlehem > ccsu : NEC teams are prohibited from adopting our awesome branding, they adopt an all lower case initials brand
Navy Annapolis > Colgate Hamilton : okay, Annapolis is actually worth bragging about, we may have to prohibit them from using our system too.
Georgetown Washington District of Columbia > sfp : Georgetown dominates the longest signage category with their new branding, while sfp jumps on the new NEC standard
Holy Cross Wooster > Monmouth : the annual crossports meltdown is deferred for one week, well except for the few who cannot overlook the unforgivable misspelling of their beloved city.
Bucknell Lewisburg > Marist : game closer than most predicting, leading to a spate of posts about their being over rated
William & Mary > Lafayette Easton : Leopard O-line gets beaten up, Carney tells all he told us so.

[RichH2]

your 2015 week 1 Patriot League picks brought to you by the branding brain trust of Army West Point:

Army West Point > Fordham Brooklyn : because we were the first to think of this branding approach
Lehigh Bethlehem > ccsu : NEC teams are prohibited from adopting our awesome branding, they adopt an all lower case initials brand
Navy Annapolis > Colgate Hamilton : okay, Annapolis is actually worth bragging about, we may have to prohibit them from using our system too.
Georgetown Washington District of Columbia > sfp : Georgetown dominates the longest signage category with their new branding, while sfp jumps on the new NEC standard
Holy Cross Wooster > Monmouth : the annual crossports meltdown is deferred for one week, well except for the few who cannot overlook the unforgivable misspelling of their beloved city.
Bucknell Lewisburg > Marist : game closer than most predicting, leading to a spate of posts about their being over rated
William & Mary > Lafayette Easton : Leopard O-line gets beaten up, Carney tells all he told us so.
xdrunkyx xlolx
Thanks. Nice funny riff.

[RichH2]

Carney,, I'm enjoying your conversation. Nope, sorry no alcohol or illegal substances here. I'm sorry you have been a fan for so long and have not enjoyed your cheering voice of lately. I would hope you are not Brown pretending to be Maroon. If that is the case it would explain your thoughts. Maybe we should call Mr. Goodell and have you suspended for 4 games. I have learned that crafty people come in different shades. Like that duck that had a cigarette in his mouth.

Nevertheless, the leopards are my HOME TEAM, and I will support them.

Just to let you know, the coaches, players, even the leopard running around waving, cheerleaders, the band and all the great fans will all embrace you in the end and allow you to sit up front for the playoff game this 2015!!!!

GO PARDS!!!! ROLL PARDS!!!!


However don't push too hard for I will consider unleashing the leopard squad to revoke your pass, because you cheering voice has seemed to revert to eternal jargon. In November I hope we will continue to have this conversation, because you will respect the fact that my principles are set on a strong foundation.

Keep your stats, your leather helmet, your 3 or 4 stars and begin to recognize HEART!!!
Nice to be enthusiastic about your team. Flaw in your argument is your assumption that the other teams lack heart. If we posit that perhaps these other teams may indeed have heart,it just may be the team with better players may win. A novel concept to some I suppose but worth considering. :)

[KillaBee]

Glad you guys think so.


HELLO HELLO I've witnessed (1) leh/laf game .. so I am 1 - 0 ... a winner!!! and in NYC 2014 I would have to say I witnessed a poor display of brown. You guys did not even float. So please do not report anything about the leopards except the final score in Yankee Stadium and we need not have anymore conversations until November 2015. thank you!!!!

[Fordham]

your 2015 week 1 Patriot League picks brought to you by the branding brain trust of Army West Point:

Army West Point > Fordham Brooklyn : because we were the first to think of this branding approach
Lehigh Bethlehem > ccsu : NEC teams are prohibited from adopting our awesome branding, they adopt an all lower case initials brand
Navy Annapolis > Colgate Hamilton : okay, Annapolis is actually worth bragging about, we may have to prohibit them from using our system too.
Georgetown Washington District of Columbia > sfp : Georgetown dominates the longest signage category with their new branding, while sfp jumps on the new NEC standard
Holy Cross Wooster > Monmouth : the annual crossports meltdown is deferred for one week, well except for the few who cannot overlook the unforgivable misspelling of their beloved city.
Bucknell Lewisburg > Marist : game closer than most predicting, leading to a spate of posts about their being over rated
William & Mary > Lafayette Easton : Leopard O-line gets beaten up, Carney tells all he told us so.

Brooklyn?!???

[CFBfan]

HELLO HELLO I've witnessed (1) leh/laf game .. so I am 1 - 0 ... a winner!!! and in NYC 2014 I would have to say I witnessed a poor display of brown. You guys did not even float. So please do not report anything about the leopards except the final score in Yankee Stadium and we need not have anymore conversations until November 2015. thank you!!!!


it's fri afternoon, I could use some of whatever you're on killa

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I would hope you are not Brown pretending to be Maroon.

Oh, believe me, he's not.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

your 2015 week 1 Patriot League picks brought to you by the branding brain trust of Army West Point:

Army West Point > Fordham Brooklyn : because we were the first to think of this branding approach
Lehigh Bethlehem > ccsu : NEC teams are prohibited from adopting our awesome branding, they adopt an all lower case initials brand
Navy Annapolis > Colgate Hamilton : okay, Annapolis is actually worth bragging about, we may have to prohibit them from using our system too.
Georgetown Washington District of Columbia > sfp : Georgetown dominates the longest signage category with their new branding, while sfp jumps on the new NEC standard
Holy Cross Wooster > Monmouth : the annual crossports meltdown is deferred for one week, well except for the few who cannot overlook the unforgivable misspelling of their beloved city.
Bucknell Lewisburg > Marist : game closer than most predicting, leading to a spate of posts about their being over rated
William & Mary > Lafayette Easton : Leopard O-line gets beaten up, Carney tells all he told us so.

So did you forget to call them Marist Poughkeepsie, or did you simply not want to start any rumors again about Marist to the PL?

- - - Updated - - -


HELLO HELLO I've witnessed (1) leh/laf game .. so I am 1 - 0 ... a winner!!! and in NYC 2014 I would have to say I witnessed a poor display of brown. You guys did not even float. So please do not report anything about the leopards except the final score in Yankee Stadium and we need not have anymore conversations until November 2015. thank you!!!!

I can see that you're new here, so I'll let that slide xlolx

[Gater]

Apologies if this league preview was already posted:

http://herosports.com/collegefootball/patriot-league-football-preview-2015-fordham-bucknell-colgate/

Seems to suggest that Colgate will beat Navy (rather handily).

[Ken_Z]

Brooklyn?!???

guess i was overly influenced by the poster with the Fordhammanhattan handle, but you are correct it fails to meet the branding standards. we will correct that when you rejoin the PL for all sports :D

[RichH2]

Apologies if this league preview was already posted:

http://herosports.com/collegefootball/patriot-league-football-preview-2015-fordham-bucknell-colgate/

Seems to suggest that Colgate will beat Navy (rather handily).
What the heck..why not xdrunkyx xthumbsupx Good luck Gater. Beat'em.

[carney2]

I would hope you are not Brown pretending to be Maroon.

Them's fightin' words. Give me a few hours while I rummage around for my dueling pistols.

[Gater]

Sometimes it takes a Lehigh guy and a drink to see things this clearly.

Let's Go 'atriot League!!!

[carney2]

William & Mary > Lafayette Easton : Leopard O-line gets beaten up, Carney tells all he told us so.

And I did, dammit.

[van]

Apologies if this league preview was already posted:

http://herosports.com/collegefootball/patriot-league-football-preview-2015-fordham-bucknell-colgate/

Seems to suggest that Colgate will beat Navy (rather handily).

Wow, I just learned that Lehigh was hit hard by graduation! This guy is a genius, really does his homework. xcrazyx

[Fordhamanhattan]

Next week at this time I will be entering the Fordham pre-game reception. Can't wait! Let the games begin.

[RichH2]

Wow, I just learned that Lehigh was hit hard by graduation! This guy is a genius, really does his homework. xcrazyx
Research??This guy just cut and paste. Garbage.

[Gate83]

Research??This guy just cut and paste. Garbage.
Have yet to see a professionally produced PL preview that offers any insight, this year or any other year. Opinions here are much more interesting.

Fordham Manhattan, I'll be in Pusser's Caribbean Grille next week this time getting ready for our Navy game. I like your chances better, but share the glee that games are back again!

[bison137]

guess i was overly influenced by the poster with the Fordhammanhattan handle, but you are correct it fails to meet the branding standards. we will correct that when you rejoin the PL for all sports :D


While we're at it, should I point out that Christy Mathewson Stadium is actually in East Buffalo Township and not in Lewisburg.

:)

[ngineer]

While we're at it, should I point out that Christy Mathewson Stadium is actually in East Buffalo Township and not in Lewisburg.

:)

Don't they call Christy Mathewson "The Big House"????(;-)

[Go...gate]

Army West Point 34, Fordham Rose Hill 27

Lehigh Bethlehem 21, Central Connecticut New Britain 17

Navy Annapolis 38, Colgate Hamilton 14

Georgetown Washington 22, St. Francis Loretto 20

Holy Cross Worcester 23, Monmouth West Long Branch 16

Bucknell Lewisburg 21, Marist Poughkeepsie 6

William & Mary Williamsburg 27, Lafayette Easton 23

[Pard4Life]

Are you serious? Do you believe in ever winning? Are you saying the kids on this team are not good enough to compete?

Welcome! More fellow Pards the better. Too many brown clowns around here.

No, I am not saying the kids are not good enough. I am saying that the offensive line, which is inexperienced and lacks depth, is the key to the success of this team. All of the other components are in place (maybe QB). Talent cannot solely compete against chemistry at this level. Look at Texas.

My point is that we do not have the experience and chemistry on the line as of yet, and our QB will be running for his life the first few games. We will be in the games but struggle to score while our defense will be on the field for 35+ minutes per game. When we have been in this situation in the recent past, the results have not been good. Plus, W&M is a strong CAA team, as is Delaware. Wagner is very physical (don't know their current returning roster) and it felt like we lost the game against them, even though we won. And, Princeton is Princeton (curse game). Against the rest of the PL, by that point, we will have more experience and perhaps more stability. If we had Marist and some other cream puffs we might talk about a winning season, but I'd rather play tough teams.

[Pard4Life]

Compete with whom?

W&M? No they're not.
Delaware? Probably not.
Fordham? No.
Harvard? No.

Everyone else on the schedule? Yes, but history says that they won't do it week in and week out. As P4L and LFN say, 5-6, maybe 6-5. All that "great" recruiting, ya know. Quoting LFN, "I've seen this movie before." And it's no better in 2015 reruns than it was in 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014. You can give a big "Rah Rah for the home team," but when they suk, they suk.

I think we can take Harvard but the past two years we have played incredibly stupid or made bad mistakes in that game.

I think we are well beyond 2010 and 2011, but it's the same as 2012-14.

[Pard4Life]

I could talk about the Amazon print release of my book, on track to be released worldwide next week.....

And I could talk about the virtue of pinstripe football uniforms.

[FordhamFan]

I'm happy Lafayette and other PL teams are scheduling legit OOC games...it crushes the W-L record (for now at least), but good on the PL teams that do go out there looking to play solid opponents ad not just beef up their win column. Like I realize Fordham is going to be 0-2 most likely after two weeks, but if you win one of those games, you have something to hang your hat on come playoff time

I've always kind of bluffed at Bucknell's records the last couple years because they play a creampuff OOC schedule. I realize when you're trying to build the program up, those games have value, but I really to see the PL get after it in OOC

[KPSUL]

I'm happy Lafayette and other PL teams are scheduling legit OOC games...it crushes the W-L record (for now at least), but good on the PL teams that do go out there looking to play solid opponents ad not just beef up their win column. Like I realize Fordham is going to be 0-2 most likely after two weeks, but if you win one of those games, you have something to hang your hat on come playoff time

I've always kind of bluffed at Bucknell's records the last couple years because they play a creampuff OOC schedule. I realize when you're trying to build the program up, those games have value, but I really to see the PL get after it in OOC

I believe in just a few years there will be near parity between the PL and the CAA. It would be good for the region and good for FCS football. I'd like to be able to include the NEC in that assessment; however, I think there are genuine resourcing considerations that will prevent it from happening.

[Andy]

Best scenario 5-6... I've seen this movie before.

P4L sees us 5-1 in the league, good enough for a title and beating our rival. Yeah, a sequel - "Son of 2013." I'll take it. Kids of course want the title and a winning season. Can't fault their effort all summer or in camp.

Two OL frosh will start, key is they're talented. Recall Colgate winning the PL a few years back with an identical situation.

[crusader11]

Friday Games:
FORDHAM @ Army: I wouldn't be surprised if Fordham comes back to the pack this season.
LEHIGH @ Central Connecticut: Lehigh wins by a couple of scores.

Saturday Games:
COLGATE @ Navy: Don't think this will be very close.
GEORGETOWN @ St. Francis (PA): Frannies should be so-so in the NEC this season, and that's better than Georgetown.
HOLY CROSS @ Monmouth: A good barometer for what kind of team HC will have this season. I think the offense, under new OC Brian Rock, has a big day.
Marist @ BUCKNELL: The first of many cupcakes for Bucknell.
William & Mary @ LAFAYETTE: Probably the GOTW for the PL, I'll take Lafayette in a close one at home.

[Skyhawk71]

Fordham @ Army
Lehigh @ Central Connecticut
Colgate @ Navy
Georgetown @ Saint Francis
Holy Cross @ Monmouth
Marist @ Bucknell
William & Mary @ Lafayette

[Andy]

Fordham @ Army a must watch Fri night
Lehigh @ Central Connecticut - CCSU a confident bunch after watching 150 game film; a toss up, I'll go with the home team
Colgate @ Navy - stay healthy my friends
Georgetown @ Saint Francis - Hoya coaches convince squad they're playing LC
Holy Cross @ Monmouth - going with the QB
Marist @ Bucknell - cupcake schedule while building the program
William & Mary @ Lafayette - Leopards loaded with talent; squeak by at Fisher

[van]

Friday Games:
FORDHAM @ Army, Rams lost a lot and Army just too strong
LEHIGH @ Central Connecticut, lotta unknowns for both teams, Engineer D has to be better than last year (did I say that last year too?)

Saturday Games:
COLGATE @ Navy, better than average Navy team, could get ugly
GEORGETOWN @ St. Francis (PA), Hoyas short on depth but starters might just be better than a lot of people think
HOLY CROSS @ Monmouth, can't pick Crossers until they show me something
Marist @ BUCKNELL, buffs have a lot returning from last years very solid team and excellent coaching to go with it
William & Mary @ LAFAYETTE, pards have big questions on OL, but the D may keep this pretty close and upset is not out of question

[DFW HOYA]

Georgetown @ Saint Francis - Hoya coaches convince squad they're playing LC

LC? Maybe HC...

[aceinthehole]

CCSU doesn't have much of anything returning on offense from last season's underachieving 3-8 campaign. We start a RS Frosh at QB who will likely share snaps with a true Frosh. The Mountain Hawks return a quality QB from an equally disappointing 3-8 season. I think our coach is going to have these guys well prepared to pull off the upset at home under the lights, but I can't objectively pick CCSU to win - they will have to earn it for me. However, if the Blue Devils do pull it off, I won't be nearly as shocked as I was for last year's unlikely season opening win at Towson.

On the other hand, I'll take the Frankies at home over the Hoyas without any reservations.

[PAllen]

I'm happy Lafayette and other PL teams are scheduling legit OOC games...it crushes the W-L record (for now at least), but good on the PL teams that do go out there looking to play solid opponents ad not just beef up their win column. Like I realize Fordham is going to be 0-2 most likely after two weeks, but if you win one of those games, you have something to hang your hat on come playoff time

I've always kind of bluffed at Bucknell's records the last couple years because they play a creampuff OOC schedule. I realize when you're trying to build the program up, those games have value, but I really to see the PL get after it in OOC

I agree 100%. Lehigh's is somewhere between Bucknell and Lafayette/Fordham in the scheduling department. We need to be scheduling up with you guys. Wins are nice, but games against NEC teams don't exactly ignite the fanbase.

[carney2]

crusader11 reminds us that we didn't pick a Game of the Week for Week 1. I'm nominating

HOLY CROSS @ Monmouth

because (1) it should be a close game, (2) it will show us the state of sader football more than the other games will provide a true barometer of Patriot League teams, and (3) a W seems critical to the purple's season.

[PAllen]

GOTW:

I'm going with both Fordham/Army and Colgate/Navy. They're both big time games and are pseudo in conference games.

These types of games should happen every year.

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

crusader11 reminds us that we didn't pick a Game of the Week for Week 1. I'm nominating

HOLY CROSS @ Monmouth

because (1) it should be a close game, (2) it will show us the state of sader football more than the other games will provide a true barometer of Patriot League teams, and (3) a W seems critical to the purple's season.

Lafayette/New Hampshire

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Lafayette/New Hampshire

Reppers

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

GOTW:

I'm going with both Fordham/Army and Colgate/Navy. They're both big time games and are pseudo in conference games.

These types of games should happen every year.

Colgate is going to get crushed. Keenan Reynolds is an absolute beast.....

I'm not hating on Colgate. Rather plugging Navy as a damn good team this year......

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

One thing that Lehigh has accomplished is getting the DL bigger. The two deep has the front 3 as DE 6'5 295 (6'3 235) NG 6'3 265 (6'2 285) DE 6'4 270 (6'2 245). That is finally how it should be. The last two years the DL was extremely undersized which was turned out to be a nightmare. There still isn't a whole lot of "experienced" size but the DL should never revert back to how it was imo. The FR class had bigger DL too. This alone will be a tremendous boost to the defense. The LB's still remain a bit on the small size though. There's certainly no Mike Groome back there. Caslow should be 1st team all league though....

I'm not sure what type of run to pass ratio CCSU usually has....

[van]

One thing that Lehigh has accomplished is getting the DL bigger. The two deep has the front 3 as DE 6'5 295 (6'3 235) NG 6'3 265 (6'2 285) DE 6'4 270 (6'2 245). That is finally how it should be. The last two years the DL was extremely undersized which was turned out to be a nightmare. There still isn't a whole lot of "experienced" size but the DL should never revert back to how it was imo. The FR class had bigger DL too. This alone will be a tremendous boost to the defense. The LB's still remain a bit on the small size though. There's certainly no Mike Groome back there. Caslow should be 1st team all league though....

I'm not sure what type of run to pass ratio CCSU usually has....

CCSU may not know what type of run to pass ratio they have, all skill guys on O are essentially rookies

[blackbeard]

Army
Central Connecticut
Navy
St. Francis (PA)
Monmouth
BUCKNELL
William & Mary

[aceinthehole]

CCSU may not know what type of run to pass ratio they have, all skill guys on O are essentially rookies

Correct.

We have a 2nd year coach and 69% of our roster are 1st or 2nd year players. Even CCSU fans don't know what we have yet.

The 2 positive things CCSU has going for them in this game vs. Lehigh.

1. It is our home opener, under the lights, and we expect a good crowd (4K+). Our new digs aren't bad and a rowdy crowd can get pretty loud.
2. Tape from last year, or previous games vs. Lehigh are meaningless for your scouting - you really have no idea what we will throw at you in week 1.

Lehigh faces a totally unknown, but very capable opponent on the road. Is that enough to give CCSU the advantage - maybe - but I'm still skeptical about such a young team winning this early in the season. If Lehigh can make adjustments and stay poised, they can pull it off.

Hope the Lehigh contingent make the road trip to New Britain. Its actually a nice gameday (night) experience and facility, despite most of the preconceived and negative perceptions that are out there by people who have never been there for a game. I think most Holy Cross fans enjoyed their trip to Arute Field (especially because they came home with a huge win).

[blackbeard]

Correct.

We have a 2nd year coach and 69% of our roster are 1st or 2nd year players. Even CCSU fans don't know what we have yet.

The 2 positive things CCSU has going for them in this game vs. Lehigh.

1. It is our home opener, under the lights, and we expect a good crowd (4K+). Our new digs aren't bad and a rowdy crowd can get pretty loud.
2. Tape from last year, or previous games vs. Lehigh are meaningless for your scouting - you really have no idea what we will throw at you in week 1.

Lehigh faces a totally unknown, but very capable opponent on the road. Is that enough to give CCSU the advantage - maybe - but I'm still skeptical about such a young team winning this early in the season.

Hope the Lehigh contingent make the road trip to New Britain. Its actually a nice gameday (night) experience and facility, despite most of the preconceived and negative perceptions that are out there by people who have never been there for a game. I think most Holy Cross fans enjoyed their trip to Arute Field (especially because they came home with a huge win).

Great Game Day experience! I think CCSU is going to be the surprise of the NEC, think they will take care of business this week.

[Pard4Life]

Lehigh 24, CCSU 21... talent wins this one

Army 35, Fordham 21... Not this year

Navy 48, Colgate 17... Notre Dame struggles to prepare for Navy.

Monmouth 31, Holy Cross 30... Missed XP dooms purples.

Bucknell 35, Marist 14... schedule up please

Georgetown 21, St Francis 17... Hoyas always overlooked in week one.

WM 28, Pards 10... Defense keeps it close for a half. Then, good night. We have a frosh starting at center!

[ngineer]

Correct.

We have a 2nd year coach and 69% of our roster are 1st or 2nd year players. Even CCSU fans don't know what we have yet.

The 2 positive things CCSU has going for them in this game vs. Lehigh.

1. It is our home opener, under the lights, and we expect a good crowd (4K+). Our new digs aren't bad and a rowdy crowd can get pretty loud.
2. Tape from last year, or previous games vs. Lehigh are meaningless for your scouting - you really have no idea what we will throw at you in week 1.

Lehigh faces a totally unknown, but very capable opponent on the road. Is that enough to give CCSU the advantage - maybe - but I'm still skeptical about such a young team winning this early in the season. If Lehigh can make adjustments and stay poised, they can pull it off.

Hope the Lehigh contingent make the road trip to New Britain. Its actually a nice gameday (night) experience and facility, despite most of the preconceived and negative perceptions that are out there by people who have never been there for a game. I think most Holy Cross fans enjoyed their trip to Arute Field (especially because they came home with a huge win).

Both teams have a lot of youth and inexperience going out on the field, which can lend(especially in the first game of the year0 to a number of mistakes and whether the opponent capitalizes on them. I will be making the trip along with a lot of South Side Boosters (two buses), and I'm sure a fair number of LU alums in the area will show. Weather looks great. Here's to a great opener!

[aceinthehole]

Both teams have a lot of youth and inexperience going out on the field, which can lend(especially in the first game of the year0 to a number of mistakes and whether the opponent capitalizes on them. I will be making the trip along with a lot of South Side Boosters (two buses), and I'm sure a fair number of LU alums in the area will show. Weather looks great. Here's to a great opener!

Good to hear! Enjoy the hospitality, would love to get reactions from the visitors about the campus and gameday atmosphere.

FYI - we do have some ongoing construction for a residential dining hall that will affect the main parking lot for tailgates.
http://www.ccsubluedevils.com/sports/fball/2015-16/releases/201508297uftgl

Also, here's what I posted previously about some local dining options:
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?169818-Previewing-the-NEC&p=2226276&viewfull=1#post2226276

[ngineer]

Good to hear! Enjoy the hospitality, would love to get reactions from the visitors about the campus and gameday atmosphere.

FYI - we do have some ongoing construction for a residential dining hall that will affect the main parking lot for tailgates.
http://www.ccsubluedevils.com/sports/fball/2015-16/releases/201508297uftgl

Also, here's what I posted previously about some local dining options:
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?169818-Previewing-the-NEC&p=2226276&viewfull=1#post2226276

Thanks for the info. However, I assume our buses have been cleared for some location beyond the parking lot as we were a few years ago. We bring our tailgate along and set up right there. Quite an operation. Are all the rest rooms still on the upper level of the home stands? People of my age need to plan ahead!

[aceinthehole]

Are all the rest rooms still on the upper level of the home stands? People of my age need to plan ahead!

No, you don't have to walk back to the upper (West) grandstands. The new visitors (East) grandstand has its own restrooms on that side. I don't think there is any concessions on that side, but there may be a food truck close by near the South end zone.

[RichH2]

Well,certainly glad we got that bathroom situation taken care of :).
Run pass ratio really shouldn't be a mystery. Both teams return their head coaches. They will run their Os perhaps better or worse than last year,but not much different.
Lehigh's edge is a veteran O led bya returning healthy QB. For us the question is what will the D look like. CCSU's edge is a home night game.

[aceinthehole]

Well,certainly glad we got that bathroom situation taken care of :).
Run pass ratio really shouldn't be a mystery. Both teams return their head coaches. They will run their Os perhaps better or worse than last year,but not much different.
Lehigh's edge is a veteran O led bya returning healthy QB. For us the question is what will the D look like. CCSU's edge is a home night game.


I agree to an extent. In Coach Ross' first season at CCSU, he had a traditional drop-back passer who threw for a lot of yards and TDs. The new kid under center is supposed to be a much more mobile and uses his feet. Additionally, we lost our starting RB to a preseason camp injury, so we are looking at RB by committee But yes, I suppose you're right, I expect CCSU to be more of a run-dominated team, but we will likely spread the field and run from multiple positions.

Lehigh was the first opponent to open the new grandstand. It was built with permanent bathrooms under the bleachers at that time, so I suppose they just weren't ready for that first game. You guys should be all set. Also, as you probably know, that grandstand is not just the "visitors" side, the CCSU students "Blue Crew" take up a section on that side as well.

[Leopard Loyalist]

Friday Games:
FORDHAM @ Army
LEHIGH @ Central Connecticut

Saturday Games:
COLGATE @ Navy
GEORGETOWN @ St. Francis (PA)
HOLY CROSS @ Monmouth
Marist @ BUCKNELL
William & Mary @ LAFAYETTE

[van]

No, you don't have to walk back to the upper (West) grandstands. The new visitors (East) grandstand has its own restrooms on that side. I don't think there is any concessions on that side, but there may be a food truck close by near the South end zone.

food truck? just point to the beer truck!

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Feels good to finally finish my game preview and game breakdown.

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2015/09/game-preview-lehigh-at-central.html

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2015/09/game-breakdown-lehigh-at-central.html

Hope Ace broadly agrees with the breakdown (well, maybe not the fearless prediction).

[Fordham]

Feels good to finally finish my game preview and game breakdown.

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2015/09/game-preview-lehigh-at-central.html

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2015/09/game-breakdown-lehigh-at-central.html

Hope Ace broadly agrees with the breakdown (well, maybe not the fearless prediction).

Mind Eraser! Love that call following Yankee Stadium. Well played!

[Sader87]

Copied and pasted from the Crossports prediction pool:



Cranking up the HAL-9000 before I forget to do this tomorrow as there are two tilts tomorrow night:

A-WP 31 Fordham 24 HAL sees a close game but ultimately goes with the Cadets-Black Knights as FU will be starting a lot of new players.

CCSU 23 Lehigh 17 HAL is a big proponent of home-field advantage.

Navy 38 Colgate 20 Red Raiders may hang around for a bit in Annapolis but HAL feels the Midshipmen will ultimately sail pass them.

St Francis(PA) 25 GTown 13 Hoyas will stuggle on the road and on offense this season HAL believes.

Bucknell 27 Marist 10 A white-frosted Red Fox cupcake for the Bison, first of many this season.

W&M 31 Lafayette 21 Pards keep it close in Easton but the Tribe ultimately will prevail.

Monmouth 34 HC 31 HAL predicts a Shootout at the Long Branch Corral...Sader D will ultimately be their undoing.

[Fordham]

Copied and pasted from the Crossports prediction pool:



Cranking up the HAL-9000 before I forget to do this tomorrow as there are two tilts tomorrow night:

A-WP 31 Fordham 24 HAL sees a close game but ultimately goes with the Cadets-Black Knights as FU will be starting a lot of new players.

CCSU 23 Lehigh 17 HAL is a big proponent of home-field advantage.

Navy 38 Colgate 20 Red Raiders may hang around for a bit in Annapolis but HAL feels the Midshipmen will ultimately sail pass them.

St Francis(PA) 25 GTown 13 Hoyas will stuggle on the road and on offense this season HAL believes.

Bucknell 27 Marist 10 A white-frosted Red Fox cupcake for the Bison, first of many this season.

W&M 31 Lafayette 21 Pards keep it close in Easton but the Tribe ultimately will prevail.

Monmouth 34 HC 31 HAL predicts a Shootout at the Long Branch Corral...Sader D will ultimately be their undoing.

No one ever went broke betting against the PL in these OOC match ups.

[carney2]

The Buffaloes need to fire the guy who does their football scheduling. Their OOC schedule is a freakin' joke. I know the coach's name is Susan, but they should still try to schedule games against some boys teams.

[carney2]

Neither of the Friday games appears to be on the Patriot League Network, but Fordham @ Army (screw the West Point) is on the CBS Sports Network.

[Franks Tanks]

The Buffaloes need to fire the guy who does their football scheduling. Their OOC schedule is a freakin' joke. I know the coach's name is Susan, but they should still try to schedule games against some boys teams.

Agree, although they are playing West Point. Also VMI appears to be much better than usual this year.

[bison137]

The Buffaloes need to fire the guy who does their football scheduling. Their OOC schedule is a freakin' joke. I know the coach's name is Susan, but they should still try to schedule games against some boys teams.



The main goal of the ooc schedule is to prepare the team for PL play. Bucknell has won the most official PL games of any team over the past two years (along with LC), so apparently it's not working too badly - especially considering how weak the program was when Susan took over. Having said that, I think it will be upgraded a bit going forward. But Cornell is a traditional rival who they will likely always play. Need Cornell to upgrade their program. VMI was part of a four-year deal made when BU was a weak team. And Marist, pre-PL scholarships, always gave them competitive games. As for the other two, Army obviously is not weak by PL standards. And Duquesne could easily win the NEC this year - so that one is no more of a joke than Sacred Heart was last year.

For a team that has fewer equivalencies than any PL team other than Georgetown, I think Susan has done pretty well with his overall game plan.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Neither of the Friday games appears to be on the Patriot League Network, but Fordham @ Army (screw the West Point) is on the CBS Sports Network.

The CCSU-Lehigh game will be streamed via the NEC I believe....

[bison137]

FORDHAM @ Army - Army by 13
LEHIGH @ Central Connecticut - LU by 3

Saturday Games:
COLGATE @ Navy - Navy by 21
GEORGETOWN @ St. Francis (PA) - Georgetown by a point, maybe OT game
HOLY CROSS @ Monmouth - Monmouth by 3
Marist @ BUCKNELL - Bucknell by 13; closer than a lot of people think, with BU hurt by the suspension of two of its top players for violation of team rules
William & Mary @ LAFAYETTE[/QUOTE] - W&M by 10

[Lehigh Football Nation]

The CCSU-Lehigh game will be streamed via the NEC I believe....

It's available on NEC Front Row at this link:

http://necfrontrow.com/schedule.php

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Army 56, Fordham 24 - This will be over early.
Lehigh 38, CCSU 28 - My breakdown is available earlier in this thread.
Navy 38, Colgate 7 - Also over early.
Georgetown 20, SFPA 13 - Think they squeak it out.
Monmouth 28, Cross 17 - A total enigma, but think Monmouth should have enough to beat them.
Bucknell 35, Marist 24 - Red Foxes will show enough to make us all doubt Bucknell, but Bison will win easy enough
Bill & Mary 28, Lafayette 7 - Leopards season always starts in mid-October.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

PL 2-0 tonight!

[carney2]

Fordham seems to have filled most of their holes. The chase is on for second place.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Fordham seems to have filled most of their holes. The chase is on for second place.

We'll see Carney. A second place IL team beat Army last year. Fordham is darn good but there is some perspective with this win....

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Fordham seems to have filled most of their holes. The chase is on for second place.

"Chase" being the operative term here. But seriously, big congratulations to Fordham. No matter what happens the rest of the year in the Patriot League this particular win makes it feel like a corner has been turned as a league.

[Lehigh'98]

"Chase" being the operative term here. But seriously, big congratulations to Fordham. No matter what happens the rest of the year in the Patriot League this particular win makes it feel like a corner has been turned as a league.

Putting a little too much emphasis on one game. Relax, let's see what the overall OOC ends up before we turn any corners. Congrats on the win though Fordham. As long as Moorehead is there the rest of the league is in trouble.

[ColgateTD]

Putting a little too much emphasis on one game. Relax, let's see what the overall OOC ends up before we turn any corners. Congrats on the win though Fordham. As long as Moorehead is there the rest of the league is in trouble.

Does anyone know why the Stony Brook-Toledo game was cancelled?

[Sader87]

Does anyone know why the Stony Brook-Toledo game was cancelled?

Weather I believe....lightning etc Not sure if it will be made up.

Congrats to LU and FU last night.....and "boo" to me for going 0-2.

It's a nice FBS "scalp" but Army may well be one of the worst FBS teams in the country right now.

[carney2]

It's a nice FBS "scalp" but Army may well be one of the worst FBS teams in the country right now.

True. Very impressed with Fordham and their apparent recovery from significant graduation losses, but Army was not impressive at all. Their little sophomore QB was the whole offense, and their defense couldn't do anything with Edmonds even though they knew he was coming. It looks like another looooong season on the Hudson. Navy by at least 3 touchdowns.

[carney2]

Colgate @ Navy also on CBS Sports Network.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Fordham's win over Army. Last FBS win for the Patriot League since...? I want to say Colgate over Buffalo, 2003, but I'm not sure.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Fordham's win over Army. Last FBS win for the Patriot League since...? I want to say Colgate over Buffalo, 2003, but I'm not sure.

They beat Temple two years ago....

[RichH2]

Hoyas getting clocked by SFU 21-0 ,1st quarter.

[Fordham]

Fordham's win over Army. Last FBS win for the Patriot League since...? I want to say Colgate over Buffalo, 2003, but I'm not sure.

Seriously?

[carney2]

Navy has taken Colgate out to the wood shed. 31-3 with time still left in the second qtr. Admitting that 'gate is in the deepest water of any Patriot League team this weekend, but so far showing no evidence that they will justify that predicted 2nd or 3rd place League finish this year.

[Gater]

Colgate stopped Navy for loses on the first two plays and forced a fumble on the 4th and quickly went up 3-0. Then, my TV broke.

[FordhamFan]

Glad to be wrong on that one...man what a thriller at the end. After fumbling the first snap of the game, Anderson became a stud. Was extremely nervous about how he'd handle the big moment, and he knocked it out of the park. Now let's see him do the same next week plz

[Sader87]

HC looking good early....up 21-3 late 2nd.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Colgate losing 31-3 to Navy early in the 3rd. This was to be expected....

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

HC looking good early....up 21-3 late 2nd.

Don't do what Lehigh did last night and ease off. This would be an impressive start to the season if HC keeps it up for 4 quarters. It's got to be really hot there. When Lehigh played there to open the season in 2011 it was brutal...

[DFW HOYA]

St. Francis 34, Georgetown 6, mid 3rd.

Hoyas' points were on a defensive INT.

Red zone:
GU 0-0
SF: 6-6

[ngineer]

St. Francis 34, Georgetown 6, mid 3rd.

Hoyas' points were on a defensive INT.

Red zone:
GU 0-0
SF: 6-6

Ouch. I am surprised. I thought the Hoyas would be in this one and possible pick up a w.

[Sader87]

Don't do what Lehigh did last night and ease off. This would be an impressive start to the season if HC keeps it up for 4 quarters. It's got to be really hot there. When Lehigh played there to open the season in 2011 it was brutal...

That's my worry...just gave up an 81 yd TD with about 30 seconds left in H. 2 pt no good. 21-9 H....not too hot, about 75 there

[DFW HOYA]

St. Francis 48, Georgetown 13, 14:00 4th

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

HC dodged a bullet against MU. Hawks had first and goal from the 3 and bad snap cost MU 20 yards. HC ended up blocking a 37 yard FG attempt....

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Monmouth just scored on a 2 yard run.

HC 21 Monmouth 16 13:42 4Q

I didn't catch the first half but MU has dominated the second half. If it wasn't for a terrible snap the Hawks would be up now. HC needs to get a couple first downs to help their defense...

[carney2]

Navy 48, 'gate 10.

Disappointed in the Hoyas. Expected better.

A win - any kind of a win - may be enough for the Cross at this point.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

HC WR dropped a sure TD on a perfect pass, HC forced to punt...their D has to be gassed

[FordhamFan]

Really would hate to see HC lose this one.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

I went to the kitchen came back and HC had the ball at the MU 12 yard line. HC has to settle for a FG

24-16 HC with about 10 minutes left....

[FordhamFan]

Big pick for the Saders!!

[DFW HOYA]

Disappointed in the Hoyas. Expected better.

The game wasn't close from the start. Total yards: Red Flash 520, Hoyas 243. Hoyas had the ball just 20:36, much of that in the fourth quarter with the game out of reach.

This from a St. Francis team picked 5th in the NEC and without a winning season since 1992.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

HC tacks on another FG. They should be able to hold on...

27-16 HC

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

wow, Monmouth FG then they recover the onside kick!

- - - Updated - - -

MU at the HC 39 about a minute left

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

HC picks the ball off in the end zone. That was a wild game. HC dodged a million bullets but found a way to win which hasn't been the case much. Monmouth made a ton of mistakes in the second half....

[RichH2]

Geez,c'min Cross hold on.

[Sader87]

You have to drink to be a HC fan.....A LOT!!!! xdrunkyxxdrunkyxxdrunkyx

[CFBfan]

Colgate losing 31-3 to Navy early in the 3rd. This was to be expected....

Gate looked disgraceful today, O, D & Specials were all horrible!

[ColgateTD]

Gate looked disgraceful today, O, D & Specials were all horrible!

'Gate faithful expected to lose this one, but we didn't expect to look so bad. Loss of Bridgeforth was devastating; hope he's not out for the season but it didn't look good. Some others dinged up too. This is what happens when you schedule a good FBS team for the opening game. A big payday is nice, but not if you lose your entire team in one game :(

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

'Gate faithful expected to lose this one, but we didn't expect to look so bad. Loss of Bridgeforth was devastating; hope he's not out for the season but it didn't look good. Some others dinged up too. This is what happens when you schedule a good FBS team for the opening game. A big payday is nice, but not if you lose your entire team in one game :(

No sympathy, and I won't have it for Lehigh in 3 years either. I really hope Lehigh doesn't get FBS game happy.

Colgate has scheduled these FBS games the last 4-5 years and have failed to be competitive in them. I know it's part of your history but this isn't 1975 anymore. Navy is damn good team. Reynolds and that rushing offense is devastating.

Now you get UNH coming off an equally tough loss.

[Sader87]

I wish HC were playing Navy and UNH to open the season. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's not like Colgate is playing LSU and Ohio St to stahht the year....lose the D2 attitude Lehigh.

[Gater]

It depends on what you expect out of your program. The best FCS teams play FBS teams. If you're a player, you'd much rather see how you match up against someone better than you than worse. In many ways, the FBS games are the only ones you can't lose. In terms of injuries, they happen. Colgate lost another starting DB in the team scrimmage last week.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

I wish HC were playing Navy and UNH to open the season. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's not like Colgate is playing LSU and Ohio St to stahht the year....lose the D2 attitude Lehigh.

Navy and @ Air Force (7k feet) may not be LSU and Ohio State but they're not Georgia State and Army either. That's signing up for two known ass kickings.

It doesn't take courage to sign on for a known butt kicking. It takes more guts to sign on for a potential loss when there's a belief you could win. Colgate never had a chance in any of these games. The best outcome was always going to be a moral victory. When you have no chance of winning what's the point? Everyone can step into the ring and get knocked out by Tyson.....

[Sader87]

Navy has been good but they aren't comprised of physical behemoths...they are also a PL membah in just about every other sport.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Navy has been good but they aren't comprised of physical behemoths...they are also a PL membah in just about every other sport.

Keenan Reynolds is likely going to break the record for all-time rushing TD's. This a very talented Navy team. Their style of play makes them very difficult to play for P5 teams, let alone a FCS squad. They'll fair very well in the AAC this year...

[Gater]

Colgate wants to be a top FCS program. To do that, they need to play one FBS game a year. What is your list of FBS teams Colgate should play? They have played Syracuse, Ball State, and Navy the past few years. They have Buffalo, Army, and Syracuse over the next three years. They beat Buffalo the last time they played. Syracuse is their traditional rival (Colgate leads in the series) and Army was a good rivalry through the 80's. Local teams, traditional rivals, Patriot League foes, and Ball State. This is exactly the scheduling Colgate fans want (and Ball State). Results may or may not come but scheduling up is what Colgate football has historically been about. Colgate's scheduling is about where the program has been and where it is (hopefully) headed.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Colgate wants to be a top FCS program. To do that, they need to play one FBS game a year. What is your list of FBS teams Colgate should play? They have played Syracuse, Ball State, and Navy the past few years. They have Buffalo, Army, and Syracuse over the next three years. They beat Buffalo the last time they played. Syracuse is their traditional rival (Colgate leads in the series) and Army was a good rivalry through the 80's. Local teams, traditional rivals, Patriot League foes, and Ball State. This is exactly the scheduling Colgate fans want (and Ball State). Results may or may not come but scheduling up is what Colgate football has historically been about. Colgate's scheduling is about where the program has been and where it is (hopefully) headed.

It's a slippery slope. Like I said, i'll LOL at Lehigh if they have to face a quality Navy team in 3 years and get crushed....

I think if Colgate wants to be considered a top FCS team beating UNH next week at home would be a good start. Taking out a highly respected CAA team will help Colgate and the PL tremendously....

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Seriously?

* facepalm*

Apologies. I really need more sleep.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Congrats to the Cross. The win against Monmouth seems to indicate that they might finish better than, um, 6th, which was their preseason place.

The Cross seem to have gotten things together a bit and that should be worrisome for the rest of the league.

[Sader87]

Congrats to the Cross. The win against Monmouth seems to indicate that they might finish better than, um, 6th, which was their preseason place.

The Cross seem to have gotten things together a bit and that should be worrisome for the rest of the league.

Meh....we looked very good the first 20 or so minutes....rest of the game was mostly a dumpstah fire. MU basically gave the game away. I don't think we've improved that much. Our coaching staff certainly hasn't.

[CFBfan]

'Gate faithful expected to lose this one, but we didn't expect to look so bad. Loss of Bridgeforth was devastating; hope he's not out for the season but it didn't look good. Some others dinged up too. This is what happens when you schedule a good FBS team for the opening game. A big payday is nice, but not if you lose your entire team in one game :(

understood, BUT they looked AWFUL.. Hunt stated "This is the best front 7 I've ever seen at Gate" they were shredded today!!
the O-line couldn't have looked much worse, Melville mad some really bad throws, etc

[ColgateTD]

understood, BUT they looked AWFUL.. Hunt stated "This is the best front 7 I've ever seen at Gate" they were shredded today!!
the O-line couldn't have looked much worse, Melville mad some really bad throws, etc

Navy had something to do with that.....

[The Boogie Down]

Colgate wants to be a top FCS program. To do that, they need to play one FBS game a year. What is your list of FBS teams Colgate should play? They have played Syracuse, Ball State, and Navy the past few years. They have Buffalo, Army, and Syracuse over the next three years. They beat Buffalo the last time they played. Syracuse is their traditional rival (Colgate leads in the series) and Army was a good rivalry through the 80's. Local teams, traditional rivals, Patriot League foes, and Ball State. This is exactly the scheduling Colgate fans want (and Ball State). Results may or may not come but scheduling up is what Colgate football has historically been about. Colgate's scheduling is about where the program has been and where it is (hopefully) headed.

At this point Syracuse, Navy, Air Force (whom ya forgot to mention) and to an extent even Ball State is scheduling "too" up. Army and Buffalo make more sense so good job there and avoiding future trips to Colorado Springs. But realistically, does Colgate have a chance to actually beat Army or Buffalo? If scheduled, could they walk out with a win against Temple, UConn and UMass? Probably not in any of those cases, but at least Gate would be competitive. At least they would keep it close for a half. OTOH, games against Syracuse, Air Force and now Navy were never in doubt. In each case the latter three schools could have named the final score. In each case the 4th quarter was reserved for their reserves. That's just scheduling "too" up, IMO.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

The W&M-Lafayette game is shaping up pretty good. LC scored right before half to get within 7.

Have I mentioned Temple beat Penn State 27-10!! xnodx Campus is crazy right now! I just hope everyone stays safe.....Biggest football win ever!!

[DFW HOYA]

understood, BUT they looked AWFUL.. Hunt stated "This is the best front 7 I've ever seen at Gate" they were shredded today!!
the O-line couldn't have looked much worse, Melville mad some really bad throws, etc

Good thing you weren't watching that game at St. Francis today.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

The W&M-Lafayette game is shaping up pretty good. LC scored right before half to get within 7.

Have I mentioned Temple beat Penn State 27-10!! xnodx Campus is crazy right now! I just hope everyone stays safe.....Biggest football win ever!!

Congrats on your Owls! Second biggest upset ever for Temple... xnodx

[The Boogie Down]

Have I mentioned Temple beat Penn State 27-10!! xnodx Campus is crazy right now! I just hope everyone stays safe.....Biggest football win ever!!

I sat through most of the first quarter, thought, "Same ol' Owls" and didn't give it a second thought while continuing with my day. Can't believe they actually won! Can't believe they scored 27 straight! Had to double check before even posting this now-lol Many-many-many congrats to a great Temple/Lehigh guy :)

[RichH2]

owl sweeps the weekend :).Congrats on Temple W. Their D is truly impressive.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

I sat through most of the first quarter, thought, "Same ol' Owls" and didn't give it a second thought while continuing with my day. Can't believe they actually won! Can't believe they scored 27 straight! Had to double check before even posting this now-lol Many-many-many congrats to a great Temple/Lehigh guy :)

We were terrible in the first quarter then turned it on! We made Hackenberg look terrible. He got sacked 9 times I believe! Great win in front of a pro-Temple crowd at the Linc!

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Lafayette with a brutal second half against W&M. I really thought this game would be closer....yuck

[carney2]

W&M 34, Lafayette 7 with 7 minutes to go. Believe it or not, the Pards are not playing badly. The injuries continue to mount.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

W&M 34, Lafayette 7 with 7 minutes to go. Believe it or not, the Pards are not playing badly. The injuries continue to mount.

Given up too many big plays on defense and have done nothing with the opportunities on offense....

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Lafayette was driving but Searfoss threw a bad back shoulder pass that was picked off. About 3:30 left in the game....

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

W&M 34 Lafayette 7 Final....

[RichH2]

Why Searfoss? Reed out?

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Why Searfoss? Reed out?

They said he's suspended for an undetermined amount of time....

[Go...gate]

No sympathy, and I won't have it for Lehigh in 3 years either. I really hope Lehigh doesn't get FBS game happy.

Colgate has scheduled these FBS games the last 4-5 years and have failed to be competitive in them. I know it's part of your history but this isn't 1975 anymore. Navy is damn good team. Reynolds and that rushing offense is devastating.

Now you get UNH coming off an equally tough loss.

No one at Colgate is looking for any.

[Go...gate]

The W&M-Lafayette game is shaping up pretty good. LC scored right before half to get within 7.

Have I mentioned Temple beat Penn State 27-10!! xnodx Campus is crazy right now! I just hope everyone stays safe.....Biggest football win ever!!

Congratulations to Temple. That was a serious butt-kicking.

[carney2]

They said he's suspended for an undetermined amount of time....

4 games is the scuttlebutt.

Searfoss did a nice job.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Bill & Mary 28, Lafayette 7 - Leopards season always starts in mid-October.



Pretty close.

[ngineer]

I watched most of LC's game with WM and thought 'pards showed alot. Just didn't make some key plays, but they certainly have some players and with time will right in the mix come October, assuming injuries don't mount.

[DFW HOYA]

The PL after week one:

1. Fordham (1-0): At the top until further notice.
2. Bucknell (1-0): Nothing fancy vs. Marist, but a solid W.
3. Holy Cross (1-0): Could be a start to build early momentum.
4. Lehigh (1-0): Not overwhelming, but they'll take it.
5. Colgate: (0-1): Red Raiders always rebound from week 1 losses.
6. Lafayette (0-1): Expected, but still a tough way to start.
7. Georgetown (0-1): A four TD loss to a 5th place NEC team suggests even more trouble in 2015.

[Fordham]

* facepalm*

Apologies. I really need more sleep.
Ha! No worries

[CFBfan]

The PL after week one:

1. Fordham (1-0): At the top until further notice.
2. Bucknell (1-0): Nothing fancy vs. Marist, but a solid W.
3. Holy Cross (1-0): Could be a start to build early momentum.
4. Lehigh (1-0): Not overwhelming, but they'll take it.
5. Colgate: (0-1): Red Raiders always rebound from week 1 losses.
6. Lafayette (0-1): Expected, but still a tough way to start.
7. Georgetown (0-1): A four TD loss to a 5th place NEC team suggests even more trouble in 2015.

last year the krapped the bed week 2 after losing to Ball St in week 1
2 years they last week 2 after getting buried by Air Force

these are NOT Dick Biddles Raiders! Hunt was a very good OC, the jury is still out on his HC prowess