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KawKaw
November 20th, 2006, 12:36 AM
EXCEPT ME!!!

Pards Rule
November 20th, 2006, 05:39 AM
I predicted a Pards 24-20 win on here??!?!?!

th0m
November 20th, 2006, 06:12 AM
Congratulations. Obviously one has to wonder what a 6-5 team is able to do against what appears to be a very complete 10-1 UMass team. I don't think they're a 'patsie', and while the start (and esp. the OOC part) of the Patriot League showed some less than encouraging results, it will still be quite a competitive game in my opinion.

First meeting ever between these 2 schools!

Lafayette71
November 20th, 2006, 06:40 AM
I think Lafayette matches up better with UMASS rather than say New Hampshire. The Minutemen want to play a physical game and pund the football. I'd be more concerned that a team that likes to spread it out. the biggest disparity between the upper ecehlon and the PL usually boils down to speed. Up front I think Lafayette coul match up well with just about anyone. Where we have struggled is defending the pass. I don't think UMASS is going to change their philosophy for Lafayette. I expect this game to go right down to the wire.

th0m
November 20th, 2006, 06:52 AM
Well I don't think they will either. But they do have the top A-10 QB getting the snaps...

It should be a good game, and apparently televised on CN8!

Pards Rule
November 20th, 2006, 08:45 AM
YES to CN8!!!!! Make no mistake, we gotta give UMass our Appy & Delaware games combined!

Pard4Life
November 20th, 2006, 09:34 AM
I think Lafayette matches up better with UMASS rather than say New Hampshire. The Minutemen want to play a physical game and pund the football. I'd be more concerned that a team that likes to spread it out. the biggest disparity between the upper ecehlon and the PL usually boils down to speed. Up front I think Lafayette coul match up well with just about anyone. Where we have struggled is defending the pass. I don't think UMASS is going to change their philosophy for Lafayette. I expect this game to go right down to the wire.

We can play the physical game when we are motivated... i.e. Lehigh... Penn was very physical but we were flat in that game. Tavani has even touted our conditioning this season.. I guess we have seen results.. we rebounded from a five-loss streak.

Pard4Life
November 20th, 2006, 09:36 AM
YES to CN8!!!!! Make no mistake, we gotta give UMass our Appy & Delaware games combined!

Are you going to the game Pards Rule? Hope so... watching TV is no place to be Saturday! :D

Much better since it's not in the south.. more fans can actually go.

BillLuc1982
November 20th, 2006, 09:41 AM
Go Lafayette, but sadly UMass will probably win

bandl
November 20th, 2006, 09:51 AM
UMass is going to destroy Lafayette. I find it hard to believe that people are actually convincing themselves otherwise.

Pards Rule
November 20th, 2006, 09:53 AM
Are you going to the game Pards Rule? Hope so... watching TV is no place to be Saturday! :D

Much better since it's not in the south.. more fans can actually go.

P4L, I wanna go so bad! I am leaning toward it. But I gotta leave Friday then and come back late Sat. or Sunday. I even looked at flying to Hartford but that was a mess too! You got a two hour head start on me in terms of geography! You going?

Pard4Life
November 20th, 2006, 10:31 AM
P4L, I wanna go so bad! I am leaning toward it. But I gotta leave Friday then and come back late Sat. or Sunday. I even looked at flying to Hartford but that was a mess too! You got a two hour head start on me in terms of geography! You going?

I'd like to... I'm in North Jersey... Amherst would be about 4.5 hours away..

Even so, I'd drive to Lafayette for the Maroon bus.. it's an hour west.. no big deal... I'm guessing it'd be $50 for the ticket, ride, and lunch... prob be early though.. noon start.. good and bad...

KawKaw
November 20th, 2006, 10:33 AM
It definitely is gonna be a shootout......I think it is gonna come down to turnovers and i KNOW that the leopards will be there 2 play........Im goin out on a limb here an say that Maurer and Adair have a DAY.....35-31

Pards Rule
November 20th, 2006, 10:34 AM
Yeah it would be like 6 hours! Maybe more that weekend as folks get going early to avoid Sunday.. Would like to see Amherst again as I haven't seen it since Nov. 1979, when my parents & I did the road trip and we looked at Amherst College.

Pards Rule
November 20th, 2006, 10:35 AM
KawKaw are you a Pard?

Franks Tanks
November 20th, 2006, 11:53 AM
UMass is going to destroy Lafayette. I find it hard to believe that people are actually convincing themselves otherwise.


We will see but I guess JMU is just lucky your not playing Bloomsburg State school for the stupid again, played really well against them

KawKaw
November 20th, 2006, 01:10 PM
I bleed maroon an white if thats wat ur askin

Pards Rule
November 20th, 2006, 01:22 PM
Yes, not to question you but I dont recall seeing you on here before. It seems we are a smallish group here of 6-8? You alumni, student, faculty, other?

KawKaw
November 20th, 2006, 02:57 PM
student

Pards Rule
November 20th, 2006, 04:37 PM
Excellent! Great rooting from the fans on Saturday. Frank complimented the noise in his comments from the stand. I'm one of those old alumni dudes (1984). Are you going to Amherst, KawKaw?

LeopardFan04
November 20th, 2006, 04:54 PM
welcome kawkaw...

Zangzigger
November 20th, 2006, 05:44 PM
It definitely is gonna be a shootout......I think it is gonna come down to turnovers and i KNOW that the leopards will be there 2 play........Im goin out on a limb here an say that Maurer and Adair have a DAY.....35-31

Well its not going to be a shootout. No team has scored more than 21 points against UMass this year and UMass has played some high-powered offenses including UNH and Navy (top 25 in scoring in I-A.) UMass ended the season 2nd in I-AA in scoring defense so the chances of Lafayette scoting 35 points is slim to none.

Pards Rule
November 20th, 2006, 05:45 PM
I agree. We will not score anywhere near that.

KawKaw
November 20th, 2006, 06:57 PM
yea, well lafayette put up the most points that app st saw last yr 2.......dont count us out

Pards Rule
November 21st, 2006, 04:37 AM
I finally found a press reference to the last time the Leopards did a three-peat on Lehigh...You have to go back over 50 years, 1953-55!!

Sam Adams
November 21st, 2006, 05:42 AM
How does the Pard secondary matchup against UM's WR Brandon London (6'4"), WR (Rasheed Rancher 6'5") TE Ian Jorgensen (6'5") and WR JJ Moore (6'1")?

Seems to me that UMass has an advantage in the passing game and will be looking to a short - medium passing game on 1st and 2d downs to take advantage of the Pards having to keep 7 in the box to deal with Baylark.

Mr. C
November 21st, 2006, 05:59 AM
I'm surprised that UMass hasn't exploited the size thing more in its matchups. London and Rancher have been very impressive when I have seen them.

Pards Rule
November 21st, 2006, 07:57 AM
25 years ago today, Bill Russo in his first season as LC head coach beat a favored Lehigh team at their place, 10-3 to finish 9-2. Only losses were to Colgate & UNH. What a game that was and I still recall it so well! They were 3-7 the year before under Neil Putnam and didnt score a TD in six games! Nobody gave the Leopards a chance in that game either - except themselves & fans. Prior to the game Lehigh had the number 1 offense in I-AA averaging 30 points a game and LC was averaging 29. Lehigh was giving up 12 points, the Pards 11. Both teams were at 8-2. The Dunkel ratings favored Lehigh by 8 points.

Pard4Life
November 21st, 2006, 08:30 AM
25 years ago today, Bill Russo in his first season as LC head coach beat a favored Lehigh team at their place, 10-3 to finish 9-2. Only losses were to Colgate & UNH. What a game that was and I still recall it so well! They were 3-7 the year before under Neil Putnam and didnt score a TD in six games! Nobody gave the Leopards a chance in that game either - except themselves & fans. Prior to the game Lehigh had the number 1 offense in I-AA averaging 30 points a game and LC was averaging 29. Lehigh was giving up 12 points, the Pards 11. Both teams were at 8-2. The Dunkel ratings favored Lehigh by 8 points.

Sounds like a familiar story... :rolleyes:

Lafayette71
November 21st, 2006, 09:48 AM
Seems to me that UMass has an advantage in the passing game and will be looking to a short - medium passing game on 1st and 2d downs to take advantage of the Pards having to keep 7 in the box to deal with Baylark.

To be honest Lafayette doesn't match up that kind of size in the secondary. I would expect they will try to offset that disadvantage by bring a lot of pressure and playing a lot of zone. If they allow UMASS to throw underneath, and use a kind of a bend don't break approach, they may be able to force a couple mistakes with the pressure. The difference will be in the red zone. I don't expect UMASS to have problems moving the ball, but they have had to settle for field goals in the last few weeks a little too often and that has allowed some teams to stay closer than they should have been. If Lafayette can get some red zone stops and keep the game close the Leopards will have a shot in this game.

letsgopards04
November 21st, 2006, 10:02 AM
Welcome KawKaw from the class of 2004 (ie me and LeopardFan04)

TigerFan17
November 21st, 2006, 10:10 AM
Well I don't think they will either. But they do have the top A-10 QB getting the snaps...





PASSING AVG/GAME Team Cl G Att Cmp Int Pct. Yds TD Avg/G
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Sean Schaefer....... TU SO 10 380 260 9 68.4 3033 19 303.3
Joe Flacco.......... UD JR 11 417 264 10 63.3 2783 18 253.0
Ricky Santos........ UNH JR 11 366 250 5 68.3 2681 23 243.7
Liam Coen........... UMASS SO 11 225 148 4 65.8 2179 20 198.1
Marvin Burroughs.... VU SR 11 283 171 9 60.4 2123 9 193.0
Anton Clarkson...... HOF SR 10 287 160 3 55.7 1881 8 188.1
Mike Potts.......... WM JR 9 216 124 7 57.4 1559 10 173.2
Justin Rascati...... JMU SR 11 207 139 6 67.1 1900 19 172.7
Eric Ward........... UR FR 10 221 132 6 59.7 1424 11 142.4
Ron Whitcomb........ UM SR 11 240 151 8 62.9 1398 9 127.1


That could be argued.

saint0917
November 21st, 2006, 10:45 AM
Excellent! Great rooting from the fans on Saturday. Frank complimented the noise in his comments from the stand. I'm one of those old alumni dudes (1984). Are you going to Amherst, KawKaw?

Are you coming to Amherst Pards?

Pard4Life
November 21st, 2006, 10:51 AM
Are you coming to Amherst Pards?

:nod:

carney2
November 21st, 2006, 10:56 AM
How does the Pard secondary matchup against UM's WR Brandon London (6'4"), WR (Rasheed Rancher 6'5") TE Ian Jorgensen (6'5") and WR JJ Moore (6'1")?

Seems to me that UMass has an advantage in the passing game and will be looking to a short - medium passing game on 1st and 2d downs to take advantage of the Pards having to keep 7 in the box to deal with Baylark.

The Pard secondary has gotten younger and better since mid-season, but still is a big question mark when confronted by a well designed and executed passing attack. I agree with Pard4Life. UMass should mass (pun intended) some very impressive offensive stats on Saturday. Lafayette must minimize point production from those stats to stand a chance.

Lafayette71
November 21st, 2006, 10:57 AM
I live in Springfield. I am driving 4 hour to Athens PA on Thursday, driving back on Friday, heading up to McGuirk on saturday, then I am turning around and going back to PA on sunday for deer season. Good times. Lafayette draws a playoff game in my backyard and I end up making an 8hr round trip for it.

saint0917
November 21st, 2006, 11:28 AM
:nod:

Check your PM

carney2
November 21st, 2006, 12:30 PM
It seems we are a smallish group here of 6-8

Actually - and nit picking - we did a poll here at AGS earlier in the year (June?) and found 10+ Pards and fellow travelers. I'm betting that it's in the 12 - 15 range now.

As for "Are you gonna be there?," I have a ticket, and now it comes down to how excited I get about doubling half way home from my holiday hideaway in Maine. Weather could be a deciding factor. Right now the forecast calls for "Mostly cloudy with a 30% chance of rain. Highs in the upper 40s." Could be worse.

Maroon&White
November 21st, 2006, 12:58 PM
How does the Pard secondary matchup against UM's WR Brandon London (6'4"), WR (Rasheed Rancher 6'5") TE Ian Jorgensen (6'5") and WR JJ Moore (6'1")?


I think Lafayette should be a tad more concerned with TE Brad Listorti then Jorgensen. Listorti has some huge catches on the season (26rec, 395yds, 2 TD), while Jorgensen only has 2 catches for 17yds.

cosmo here
November 21st, 2006, 12:59 PM
PASSING AVG/GAME Team Cl G Att Cmp Int Pct. Yds TD Avg/G
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Sean Schaefer....... TU SO 10 380 260 9 68.4 3033 19 303.3
Joe Flacco.......... UD JR 11 417 264 10 63.3 2783 18 253.0
Ricky Santos........ UNH JR 11 366 250 5 68.3 2681 23 243.7
Liam Coen........... UMASS SO 11 225 148 4 65.8 2179 20 198.1
Marvin Burroughs.... VU SR 11 283 171 9 60.4 2123 9 193.0
Anton Clarkson...... HOF SR 10 287 160 3 55.7 1881 8 188.1
Mike Potts.......... WM JR 9 216 124 7 57.4 1559 10 173.2
Justin Rascati...... JMU SR 11 207 139 6 67.1 1900 19 172.7
Eric Ward........... UR FR 10 221 132 6 59.7 1424 11 142.4
Ron Whitcomb........ UM SR 11 240 151 8 62.9 1398 9 127.1


That could be argued.


Coen is second in the country in efficiency. Schaefer doesn't have to share the ball with a 4,000 yard rusher . . big difference.

Pards Rule
November 22nd, 2006, 08:42 AM
Are you coming to Amherst Pards?

I'm trying to go by air now! The drive will be a b*tch!

Pard4Life
November 22nd, 2006, 08:48 AM
I'm trying to go by air now! The drive will be a b*tch!

Crikey... I guess CN8 for you isn't an option.

Andy
November 22nd, 2006, 01:28 PM
I live in Springfield. I am driving 4 hour to Athens PA on Thursday, driving back on Friday, heading up to McGuirk on saturday, then I am turning around and going back to PA on sunday for deer season. Good times. Lafayette draws a playoff game in my backyard and I end up making an 8hr round trip for it.

Springfield, 71? You're bringing me back 20+ years--Chiccopee, Agawam, the roller coasters at Riverside, the BBall HOF billboard along 91 and a man called "Skyball". It'll be interesting driving by and seeing the changes.

Andy
November 22nd, 2006, 01:43 PM
Actually - and nit picking - we did a poll here at AGS earlier in the year (June?) and found 10+ Pards and fellow travelers. I'm betting that it's in the 12 - 15 range now.

As for "Are you gonna be there?," I have a ticket, and now it comes down to how excited I get about doubling half way home from my holiday hideaway in Maine. Weather could be a deciding factor. Right now the forecast calls for "Mostly cloudy with a 30% chance of rain. Highs in the upper 40s." Could be worse.

Pretty neat, Carney. My first brush (uh) with Maine was last year burying my wife's father's ashes (literally, they said get a shovel and have at it!) up in Island Falls/Smyrna Mills, where that side of her family's from. You're not as far up as Aroostook, I wouldn't guess? We foolishly paid for a moose tour, and then saw eight on our own just driving around. We're sick that her relatives basically gave their land away for a song. One cabin on a small wilderness type lake called Roccabema, I'm sick.

Anyway, anybody take a look at the UMASS-Hofstra box score to see how they kept it close? Maybe someone could tell us.