Three FCS schools scheduled College of Faith for next season.

[Texas]

Valparaiso
http://www.valpoathletics.com/football/schedule/2015-16/#.VNgNXD2COJJ

Texas Southern - Homecoming
http://tsuball.com/news/2015/2/6/FB_0206155605.aspx

ETSU
www.etsubucs.com/football/schedule/

HBU - Homecoming
http://www.hbuhuskies.com/sports/2013/4/6/FB_0406134202.aspx?id=84


Come on now. Their are plenty of D2 or even D3 schools willing to take a beating, and the money wouldn't being going to crooks.

Back story of CoF here.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/education/college/at-college-footballs-lowest-rung-games-are-matter-of-faith-and-creative/2204711


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[JSUBison]

I've always thought that with all the former players that post here on AGS, Ursus should form a team and earn a little extra cash for the site. It would be just as legit as this College of Faith scam school.

[mvemjsunpx]

I've always thought that with all the former players that post here on AGS, Ursus should form a team and earn a little extra cash for the site. It would be just as legit as this College of Faith scam school.

Can AGS afford neon green t-shirts? xchinscratchx

[walliver]

Valparaiso
http://www.valpoathletics.com/football/schedule/2015-16/#.VNgNXD2COJJ

Texas Southern - Homecoming
http://tsuball.com/news/2015/2/6/FB_0206155605.aspx

ETSU
www.etsubucs.com/football/schedule/ (http://www.etsubucs.com/football/schedule/)

HBU - Homecoming
http://www.hbuhuskies.com/sports/2013/4/6/FB_0406134202.aspx?id=84


Come on now. Their are plenty of D2 or even D3 schools willing to take a beating, and the money wouldn't being going to crooks.

Back story of CoF here.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/education/college/at-college-footballs-lowest-rung-games-are-matter-of-faith-and-creative/2204711


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The NAIA doesn't count these games, but the NCAA does. xcrazyx

[BisonFan02]

I've always thought that with all the former players that post here on AGS, Ursus should form a team and earn a little extra cash for the site. It would be just as legit as this College of Faith scam school.

No need for former players....just peeps that have some NCAA eligibility left! :D

[bonarae]

A question to ponder on - why aren't the four schools scheduling more quality and decent-looking opponents? xsmhx

[hebmskebm]

A question to ponder on - why aren't the four schools scheduling more quality and decent-looking opponents? xsmhx

They can get CoF (any of them) for far cheaper than an actual D2/NAIA school. Also zero risk of an embarrassing loss.

[Bisonoline]

I've always thought that with all the former players that post here on AGS, Ursus should form a team and earn a little extra cash for the site. It would be just as legit as this College of Faith scam school.

You could probably field a better team than the College of Faith.

[PAllen]

They can get CoF (any of them) for far cheaper than an actual D2/NAIA school. Also zero risk of an embarrassing loss.

Actually, I think the question is: If FCS schools keep scheduling CoF, who will be the first to lose to them?

[hebmskebm]

Actually, I think the question is: If FCS schools keep scheduling CoF, who will be the first to lose to them?

Somebody from the PFL, SWAC, or Savannah State.

Actually, yeah, Savannah State.

[BisonFan02]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNntwh2g6aQ

Here's Memphis.... xlolx

[BisonFan02]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVe70jthekM

Yes.....Davidson. They should be REAL proud of that performance.

[BisonFan02]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD1an-S1Fvk

Alright. Put me in...I'm ready. Who's with me?

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Actually, I think the question is: If FCS schools keep scheduling CoF, who will be the first to lose to them?

That's easy. Georgia State.

[Model Citizen]

Valparaiso
http://www.valpoathletics.com/football/schedule/2015-16/#.VNgNXD2COJJ

Texas Southern - Homecoming
http://tsuball.com/news/2015/2/6/FB_0206155605.aspx

ETSU
www.etsubucs.com/football/schedule/ (http://www.etsubucs.com/football/schedule/)

HBU - Homecoming
http://www.hbuhuskies.com/sports/2013/4/6/FB_0406134202.aspx?id=84


Come on now. Their are plenty of D2 or even D3 schools willing to take a beating, and the money wouldn't being going to crooks.

Back story of CoF here.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/education/college/at-college-footballs-lowest-rung-games-are-matter-of-faith-and-creative/2204711

Just to be clear, we're talking about two different schools with the same name. One is in NC, the other is in Arkansas. Neither one is playing four FBS teams.

[DFW HOYA]

Most of these are the CoF in Arkansas.

The Charlotte CofF's Facebook page says they have two D-I's on its 2015 schedule but, of course, a schedule is not listed.

And there's another "of Faith" coming soon...

http://universityoffaith.weebly.com/athletics.html

[UAalum72]

Most of these are the CoF in Arkansas.

The Charlotte CofF's Facebook page says they have two D-I's on its 2015 schedule but, of course, a schedule is not listed.

And there's another "of Faith" coming soon...

http://universityoffaith.weebly.com/athletics.html

"Ben Claborn graduated in 2001 from Apache High School after playing football for nine years." I sure hope they're counting Pop Warner in there. Otherwise it's "High school, the best nine years of my life"

[Daytripper]

Wow. Just wow.

[Model Citizen]

And there's another "of Faith" coming soon...

http://universityoffaith.weebly.com/athletics.html

Oh my. I wonder what Drake's 2016 schedule will look like.

[Gater]

A "basically homeless" street preacher/coach putting 13 players in a van to drive 500 miles to play a school? I'm in.

Each one of these schools seems to be trying to build something out of nothing. At least one of them is doing it while wearing a tremendous amount of neon.

I would absolutely love to see any of these teams win a game.

[Panther88]

Most of these are the CoF in Arkansas.

The Charlotte CofF's Facebook page says they have two D-I's on its 2015 schedule but, of course, a schedule is not listed.

And there's another "of Faith" coming soon...

http://universityoffaith.weebly.com/athletics.html

I'm fairly certain this is the "University of Faith" that is on our schedule for October(?) 2015. Our new football stadium is due to open in 2016 and we're playing our home games 5-6 miles from campus @ a HS facility; entirely new coaching staff headed by a coach w/ zero years of HC experience, et al who are "first-timers" on staff (def coord, o-coord, et al); we needed an OOC game like this, for the most part, since our other OOC game is vs a D-I FBS and the other 9 games are vs D-I FCS.

I cannot dump on what those entities are attempting to do. For those of you who live the pessimistic negative lifestyle, more power and speed to you lol. I alluded to something similar awhile ago. (Comm colls w/ $$$ who would start offering athletic schols for football/volleyball/M-W basketball/softball-baseball/M-W t&f/soccer/et al)

[BisonFan02]

I'm fairly certain this is the "University of Faith" that is on our schedule for October(?) 2015. Our new football stadium is due to open in 2016 and we're playing our home games 5-6 miles from campus @ a HS facility; entirely new coaching staff headed by a coach w/ zero years of HC experience, et al who are "first-timers" on staff (def coord, o-coord, et al); we needed an OOC game like this, for the most part, since our other OOC game is vs a D-I FBS and the other 9 games are vs D-I FCS.

I cannot dump on what those entities are attempting to do. For those of you who live the pessimistic negative lifestyle, more power and speed to you lol. I alluded to something similar awhile ago. (Comm colls w/ $$$ who would start offering athletic schols for football/volleyball/M-W basketball/softball-baseball/M-W t&f/soccer/et al)

Second part first. I'm not "dumping" on the CoF teams necessarily (although, I should be), but I'm dumping on the thought process in the first bold. If the noted FCS programs NEED these types of games, I question if you guys are really in the right level of football period. There is no reason these games should count anymore than a spring game or exhibition on a teams record....its embarrassing.

[BisonFan02]

Believe me....I understand the need at times for a "breather" or a "tune up" OOC game. I just would expect it to be at least a DII or lower level FCS program like, well, you guys. :D

[Lehigh Football Nation]

If, as is the rage these days, the idea is to break down each college football game as a pure economic transaction, scheduling games against the ofFaith's makes a lot of sense. It costs little to get them in the door (guessing less than the going rate of a local D-II), and they are guaranteed home wins.

The problem becomes twofold. One, such wins are going to be at best thrown out in terms of postseason qualification (though that's not a 2015 goal or either TSou or Valpo). Two, and the more important one, is how close institutionally do you want your school tied to these ofFaith schools? There are tons of red flags for these schools in terms of mission and accreditation.

[Panther88]

Believe me....I understand the need at times for a "breather" or a "tune up" OOC game. I just would expect it to be at least a DII or lower level FCS program like, well, you guys. :D

BF02, please, let us try to work on our admins to have some type of return game between PVAMU and NDSU in the near future before you guys bolt for D-I FBS'dom. Some of us pantherens harbor a spirit that is... quite unforgiving and also one that doesn't forget. Quite a few of my alums know how strongly I feel about the NDSU game from a few years ago. I'm almost consumed by it, daily. :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VYi6akd3Ag

There is payback we feel is warranted. But first, we need to make baby steps to build, not rebuild. ;)

[FormerPokeCenter]

No need for former players....just peeps that have some NCAA eligibility left! :D


I missed my sophomore year, recovering from knee surgery during a redshirt season....I got three seasons in during 5 years...

I've been looking for a D-III or an NAIA, so I can take one last hurrah like the old guy did at Sul Ross State a few years ago! ;)

If Ursus can get us into the NAIA, I'm in....Who's with me???

http://mentalfloss.com/article/28721/4-old-men-who-played-college-football

[Panther88]

If, as is the rage these days, the idea is to break down each college football game as a pure economic transaction, scheduling games against the ofFaith's makes a lot of sense. It costs little to get them in the door (guessing less than the going rate of a local D-II), and they are guaranteed home wins.

The problem becomes twofold. One, such wins are going to be at best thrown out in terms of postseason qualification (though that's not a 2015 goal or either TSou or Valpo). Two, and the more important one, is how close institutionally do you want your school tied to these ofFaith schools? There are tons of red flags for these schools in terms of mission and accreditation.

The SWAC doesn't recv an AQ for the FCS playoffs so who we play is of no consequence towards determining a nat'l champion, unless a SWAC 3rd place finisher other than SU and GSU (along w/ the SWAC E rep) are invited to the playoff pool.

The bottomline, we are going to do what is best for our program (sched/$$$$ wise), at this stage. We're attempting to build something to knock every last one of you in the dirt, regardless of your recent past accomplishments. That is our goal that some of you are asking for. :D

[BisonFan02]

I missed my sophomore year, recovering from knee surgery during a redshirt season....I got three seasons in during 5 years...

I've been looking for a D-III or an NAIA, so I can take one last hurrah like the old guy did at Sul Ross State a few years ago! ;)

If Ursus can get us into the NAIA, I'm in....Who's with me???

http://mentalfloss.com/article/28721/4-old-men-who-played-college-football

Bear with me......I'm typing up a thread off/on today that will show up in the Smack forum..... :D

[BisonFan02]

BF02, please, let us try to work on our admins to have some type of return game between PVAMU and NDSU in the near future before you guys bolt for D-I FBS'dom. Some of us pantherens harbor a spirit that is... quite unforgiving and also one that doesn't forget. Quite a few of my alums know how strongly I feel about the NDSU game from a few years ago. I'm almost consumed by it, daily. :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VYi6akd3Ag

There is payback we feel is warranted. But first, we need to make baby steps to build, not rebuild. ;)

At least you guys scored!!!!!!!! :D

[Lehigh Football Nation]

The SWAC doesn't recv an AQ for the FCS playoffs so who we play is of no consequence towards determining a nat'l champion, unless a SWAC 3rd place finisher other than SU and GSU (along w/ the SWAC E rep) are invited to the playoff pool.

Understood. When TSou schedules an ofFaith it doesn't have any real implications for the postseason because the SWAC's postseason is only based on their conference record. OOC games in that context are only exhibition games. The change of an FCS at-large invite is so remote that it's of no consequence.

[Panther88]

At least you guys scored!!!!!!!! :D

Your cheerleaders weren't as fast as our scouting report indicated. :D Correct playcall, failed cover by the 2nd team cheerleader, and wham!!! Touchdown PVAMU!!!! :D

PVAMU wants to be your "University of Faith"/"College of Faith." :D Lets make this happen in a few, before you guys bolt for the Big X. ;)

[BisonFan02]

Your cheerleaders weren't as fast as our scouting report indicated. :D Correct playcall, failed cover by the 2nd team cheerleader, and wham!!! Touchdown PVAMU!!!! :D

PVAMU wants to be your "University of Faith"/"College of Faith." :D Lets make this happen in a few, before you guys bolt for the Big X. ;)

http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?id=322662449

Tie game in the 4th quarter...momentum was shifting and you guys would've been right back in it if we were still playing. :D

[BisonFan02]

Prairie View A&M Drive Summaries


START
QTR
POSS.
YARD
PLAYS
YARDS
RESULT


15:00
1
00:58
PV 19
3
6
Punt


11:30
1
00:09
PV 25
1
-9
Fumble


09:45
1
04:00
PV 22
6
8
Punt


05:25
1
01:52
PV 37
3
-3
Punt


14:07
2
01:46
PV 16
3
9
Punt


10:00
2
01:10
PV 10
3
-3
Punt


03:24
2
01:01
PV 25
3
12
Fumble


00:56
2
00:48
PV 17
2
8
End of Half


12:24
3
02:58
PV 25
8
36
Punt


04:41
3
02:49
PV 14
6
22
Punt


11:09
4
05:52
PV 19
11
81
Passing Touchdown


05:17
4
02:20
PV 44
4
16
End of Game

[BisonFan02]

North Dakota State Drive Summaries


START
QTR
POSS.
YARD
PLAYS
YARDS
RESULT


14:02
1
02:32
PV 11
5
55
Passing Touchdown


11:21
1
01:28
PV 24
4
9
Field Goal Good


05:45
1
00:11
NDSU 31
1
69
Passing Touchdown


03:33
1
04:22
PV 11
9
71
Passing Touchdown


12:21
2
02:03
PV 26
5
57
Rushing Touchdown


08:50
2
05:26
NDSU 36
10
64
Rushing Touchdown


02:23
2
01:27
PV 37
5
37
Passing Touchdown


15:00
3
02:29
NDSU 34
6
66
Rushing Touchdown


09:21
3
04:40
NDSU 20
9
80
Rushing Touchdown


01:47
3
05:30
NDSU 22
10
78
Rushing Touchdown


05:17
4
00:00
NDSU 35
6
21
Turnover on Downs

[ming01]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD1an-S1Fvk

Alright. Put me in...I'm ready. Who's with me?

Holy side arm. Lol.

[BisonFan02]

Holy side arm. Lol.

http://www39.homepage.villanova.edu/michael.barbato/meatthrow.gif

[hebmskebm]

Here's another school that sprung up overnight and is putting together a football team, "Central International University" located in Lynchburg, Va. (though apparently not connected to the similar Virginia University of Lynchburg). They allegedly have some DII schools on their schedule next year, wouldn't be surprised to see them play FCS schools in the near future.

http://www.centralinternationaluniversity.us/?page_id=398

[BisonFan02]

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?167612-College-of-AGS-Fighting-Drunkies-quot-The-College-quot&p=2212995#post2212995

[Panther88]

http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?id=322662449

Tie game in the 4th quarter...momentum was shifting and you guys would've been right back in it if we were still playing. :D

We had you guys on the ropes in the 4th quarter, if the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd quarters weren't played. :D Our starters finally hit their stride in the 4th quarter lol.

[Panther88]

North Dakota State Drive Summaries



START

QTR

POSS.

YARD

PLAYS

YARDS

RESULT



14:02

1

02:32

PV 11

5

55

Passing Touchdown



11:21

1

01:28

PV 24

4

9

Field Goal Good



05:45

1

00:11

NDSU 31

1

69

Passing Touchdown



03:33

1

04:22

PV 11

9

71

Passing Touchdown



12:21

2

02:03

PV 26

5

57

Rushing Touchdown



08:50

2

05:26

NDSU 36

10

64

Rushing Touchdown



02:23

2

01:27

PV 37

5

37

Passing Touchdown



15:00

3

02:29

NDSU 34

6

66

Rushing Touchdown



09:21

3

04:40

NDSU 20

9

80

Rushing Touchdown



01:47

3

05:30

NDSU 22

10

78

Rushing Touchdown



05:17

4

00:00

NDSU 35

6

21

Turnover on Downs





Bow down!!!!! xasswhipx We actually made you guys turn the ball over on downs in the 4th quarter! It's a personal victory of sorts. Forget the other dominating drives. :D

[Texas]

A "basically homeless" street preacher/coach putting 13 players in a van to drive 500 miles to play a school? I'm in.

Each one of these schools seems to be trying to build something out of nothing. At least one of them is doing it while wearing a tremendous amount of neon.

I would absolutely love to see any of these teams win a game.

These aren't schools, these are scams. Sure those kids get to play ball while the "coaches" take those checks and laugh all the way home.

[Bisonator]

Eh if it keeps them off the streets for a few hours....

I don't think these should be NCAA counters though, that's beyond ridiculous.

[Catsfan90]

Eh if it keeps them off the streets for a few hours....

I don't think these should be NCAA counters though, that's beyond ridiculous.
I agree. It should be nothing more than a scrimmage game.

[bonarae]

I don't think these should be NCAA counters though, that's beyond ridiculous.

I agree with this.


I agree. It should be nothing more than a scrimmage game.

Scrimmage game? Do you think the Ivies should scrap their preseason scrimmages with games against them?

[Catsfan90]

I agree with this.



Scrimmage game? Do you think the Ivies should scrap their preseason scrimmages with games against them?
I'm confused. All I was saying is that instead of cof games counting as actual wins. They should just be considered scrimmages. What does that have anything to do with the Ivy league?

[bonarae]

I'm confused. All I was saying is that instead of cof games counting as actual wins. They should just be considered scrimmages. What does that have anything to do with the Ivy league?

Well, in the preseason, the Ivies play closed-door scrimmages against each other. I'm suggesting that games against schools such as CoF should replace these scrimmages.

[Catsfan90]

Well, in the preseason, the Ivies play closed-door scrimmages against each other. I'm suggesting that games against schools such as CoF should replace these scrimmages.
Ohh okay, I see now! I thought you were angry at what I said. I guess its difficult to interpret text sometimes. :)

[BisonFan02]

Well, in the preseason, the Ivies play closed-door scrimmages against each other. I'm suggesting that games against schools such as CoF should replace these scrimmages.

Just the preseason?

[bonarae]

Just the preseason?

Hmm, that probably extends to weeks 1-3 of the regular FCS season, just when NDSU et al already play in large stadiums.

[Model Citizen]

Do you think the Ivies should scrap their preseason scrimmages with games against them?

Time to jack this thread.

In fact, the Ivies should scrap their Week 0 scrimmages for season openers against the Pioneer league.

Nothing challenging. Just a warm up against San Diego, Jacksonville, and six others of your choice.

I bet the Ivy League players would give this plan a thumbs up. With 11 games, you could join the 20th century.

[DFW HOYA]

The College of Faith story reads like some bad 80's TV movie...


http://www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/images/tvguide2.jpg

[hebmskebm]

The College of Faith story reads like some bad 80's TV movie...



I would unabashedly watch the crap out of that movie. Funny bit of trivia, the actual Columbia football team in 1988 featured none other than future LOST star Matthew Fox at WR.

[NoCoDanny]

Schools should be playing other schools with at least somewhat similar scope, mission, history, resources, etc. A D2 playing an FCS is one thing but no reason anyone in a legit, traditional accredited college or university should be playing these teams it's a disgrace. Let them play each other and club teams.

[dgtw]

The NCAA should mandate that member schools can only play accredited colleges and universities.

[bonarae]

Schools should be playing other schools with at least somewhat similar scope, mission, history, resources, etc. A D2 playing an FCS is one thing but no reason anyone in a legit, traditional accredited college or university should be playing these teams it's a disgrace. Let them play each other and club teams.

Bolded statement: That's the mission of Division III, and it's also one of the reasons Ivies tend to only play PFL and some PL teams these days. xsmhx


The NCAA should mandate that member schools can only play accredited colleges and universities.

It's about time for that to happen. xprayx

[Nickels]

The College of Faith story reads like some bad 80's TV movie...


http://www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/images/tvguide2.jpg

I would watch that movie.

[Model Citizen]

Bolded statement: That's the mission of Division III, and it's also one of the reasons Ivies tend to only play PFL and some PL teams these days.

I think you meant to say, "only PL and some PFL teams." There will be no Ivy-Pioneer games this year.

[FormerPokeCenter]

I would watch that movie.

Did you already see that movie? You guys played Incarnate Word AND Houston Baptist, didn't you??

[Panther88]

If memory serves correct, we were looking to host an opponent for a specific fee (details weren't given) on October 3rd. "University of Faith" stepped up and accepted. Per footballscoop.com:



Prairie View A&M: Prairie View A&M is currently looking for a home game. The two available dates are October 3rd and October 24th. Willing to pay a guarantee. Interested parties can contact coach Joe Henry at XXX-YYY-ZZZZ.

[BlackNGoldR3v0lut10n]

Valparaiso
http://www.valpoathletics.com/football/schedule/2015-16/#.VNgNXD2COJJ

Texas Southern - Homecoming
http://tsuball.com/news/2015/2/6/FB_0206155605.aspx

ETSU
www.etsubucs.com/football/schedule/ (http://www.etsubucs.com/football/schedule/)

HBU - Homecoming
http://www.hbuhuskies.com/sports/2013/4/6/FB_0406134202.aspx?id=84


Come on now. Their are plenty of D2 or even D3 schools willing to take a beating, and the money wouldn't being going to crooks.

Back story of CoF here.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/education/college/at-college-footballs-lowest-rung-games-are-matter-of-faith-and-creative/2204711


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I will respond since I am an ETSU alumnus. I was disappointed when I found out they placed this "college" on their schedule (was that the best they can do) but they did not ask me. ETSU would have been better off if they played a D2.

[Catsfan90]

I will respond since I am an ETSU alumnus. I was disappointed when I found out they placed this "college" on their schedule (was that the best they can do) but they did not ask me. ETSU would have been better off if they played a D2.
Even a D3 would have been better to be honest. The more schools thay play these guys, the more attention they get. So therefore the more people that try to copycat them. It needs to be nipped in the but IMO.

[Go Green]

Scrimmage game? Do you think the Ivies should scrap their preseason scrimmages with games against them?

Faith can't play all eight of us in the preseason....

And I'd also wait to see who Columbia fills with the open dates on their schedule for 2016 and 2017 before we deride Faith too much...

[Go Green]

I would watch that movie.

You could very well get that chance if Columbia can't find anyone else in 2016 and 2017.

[PAllen]

Faith can't play all eight of us in the preseason....

And I'd also wait to see who Columbia fills with the open dates on their schedule for 2016 and 2017 before we deride Faith too much...

Why not? There are seven days in a week. It's not like they have to go to class or anything.

[DFW HOYA]

Here'a an interesting case; a Division II school in North Carolina that has agreed to travel to CoF in West Memphis, Arkansas.

UNC-Pembroke must have needed a game very badly.

http://www.fayobserver.com/sports/localcolleges/unc-pembroke-releases-football-schedule/article_cd46ec86-ea85-5c1c-a47b-ef30f0151f70.html

[bonarae]

I will respond since I am an ETSU alumnus. I was disappointed when I found out they placed this "college" on their schedule (was that the best they can do) but they did not ask me. ETSU would have been better off if they played a D2.

See Kennesaw State. They play within the boundaries of the NCAA and even have 1 NAIA on their schedule.

[BlackNGoldR3v0lut10n]

See Kennesaw State. They play within the boundaries of the NCAA and even have 1 NAIA on their schedule.

Kennesaw State is our first opponent next season.

[3rd Coast Tiger]

Hey, Coach Asberry needs a cheap win I guess. xnodx

[walliver]

Here'a an interesting case; a Division II school in North Carolina that has agreed to travel to CoF in West Memphis, Arkansas.

UNC-Pembroke must have needed a game very badly.

http://www.fayobserver.com/sports/localcolleges/unc-pembroke-releases-football-schedule/article_cd46ec86-ea85-5c1c-a47b-ef30f0151f70.html

Hey guys, College of Faith already has the ASCAA National Championship pencilled in on their schedule. This is big-time football.
http://www.gofaithwarriors.com/football.html

They actually have 2 home games listed. Although, to be honest, I don't see what good a home game is if you don't have a campus, fans, or a stadium.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

SB Nation recently tackled the CoF's in longform. A long piece, but a good one.

http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2015/2/18/8039515/college-of-faith-profile

[Uncle Rico's Clan]

Hey guys, College of Faith already has the ASCAA National Championship pencilled in on their schedule. This is big-time football.
http://www.gofaithwarriors.com/football.html

They actually have 2 home games listed. Although, to be honest, I don't see what good a home game is if you don't have a campus, fans, or a stadium.

That's a quality helmet decal they have featured on their page. College of Faith must have a strong design program.

[dgtw]

Why not? There are seven days in a week. It's not like they have to go to class or anything.

Seeing as how they aren't bound by roster limits, they could just bring in enough people to have several teams.


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[woffordgrad94]

How is this College of Faith thing even legal? These are not relly true college students. No one should play them. If they can't get any opponents they can't exist.

[Panther88]

How is this College of Faith thing even legal? These are not relly true college students. No one should play them. If they can't get any opponents they can't exist.
IMO, how are ncaa participating schools able to schedule them? Are there not minimum requirements mandated by the ncaa for scheduling? What next? Tx 6A/5A HSs can schedule FCS schools so they can gain experience & a nice 75K-100K $$ check? xsmhx

[hebmskebm]

IMO, how are ncaa participating schools able to schedule them? Are there not minimum requirements mandated by the ncaa for scheduling? What next? Tx 6A/5A HSs can schedule FCS schools so they can gain experience & a nice 75K-100K $$ check? xsmhx

IMO, the existence of the College(s) Of Faith speaks to the financial difficulties many "legit" schools are feeling all over the college landscape. The fact so many are ready to associate themselves with these fly-by-night operations just to save a few bucks shows how desperate they are just to keep things afloat.

[DFW HOYA]

How is this College of Faith thing even legal? These are not relly true college students. No one should play them. If they can't get any opponents they can't exist.

They are legal in states where the requirements for higher education aren't very strict.

Frankly, it's a loophole the NCAA chooses not to plug. Games against club teams (e.g. George Mason, DePaul, etc.) don't count in football standings, but because CoF sports are "sponsored" by the college and not a student club, they are "intercollegiate" in the eyes of the NCAA.

It does raise some questions, however. if the University of Phoenix started recruiting players for online-only courses, would they be a legitimate college team?

[Panther88]

It does raise some questions, however. if the University of Phoenix started recruiting players for online-only courses, would they be a legitimate college team?

+1. UofP was my next question.

[Catsfan90]

That's a quality helmet decal they have featured on their page. College of Faith must have a strong design program.
Already got my tickets to see them take on the university of faith! Battle of the bibles their calling it!

[Catatonic]

if the University of Phoenix started recruiting players for online-only courses, would they be a legitimate college team?

At least UP has a nice stadium for home games xnodx

[Lehigh Football Nation]

How is this College of Faith thing even legal? These are not relly true college students. No one should play them. If they can't get any opponents they can't exist.

It's legal because nobody is truly making money off the transaction and there's no real competition financially between the CoF schools and any Division I institution. If/whenever the CoF's get any serious coin the plug will be pulled.

Now, University of Phoenix? That's seen as a giant threat to traditional colleges and universities. Hence, the P5 (in particular members of the Pac 12) are doing everything in their power to keep them from sponsoring sports teams. Some won't even schedule Grand Canyon over it, or even Liberty.

[Libertine]

Some won't even schedule Grand Canyon over it, or even Liberty.

Just....stop.

[Texas]

Looks like Davidson dropped College of Faith for Kentucky Wesleyan (D2).

[bonarae]

Looks like Davidson dropped College of Faith for Kentucky Wesleyan (D2).

Good move. At least they have moved up to a reputable schedule, just like Kennesaw State's. (KSU's schedule has all legit opponents, with D2, D3 and even a NAIA there.)

If only ETSU could find another opponent to replace the dreaded CoF... xsmhx

[bonarae]

HBU's schedule has not yet been updated to show the new opponent.

[Texas]

HBU's schedule has not yet been updated to show the new opponent.

www.hbuhuskies.com/schedule.aspx?path=football

I'm seeing CoF still on there. A second ago I did not so I'm not sure.

[Go...gate]

It's legal because nobody is truly making money off the transaction and there's no real competition financially between the CoF schools and any Division I institution. If/whenever the CoF's get any serious coin the plug will be pulled.

Now, University of Phoenix? That's seen as a giant threat to traditional colleges and universities. Hence, the P5 (in particular members of the Pac 12) are doing everything in their power to keep them from sponsoring sports teams. Some won't even schedule Grand Canyon over it, or even Liberty.

Liberty is a private, non-profit, degree-granting university in the traditional model. They are a member in good standing of the NCAA. Not sure why anyone would have trouble scheduling them.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

That was an old comment, but I'll attempt to clarify. Many schools will fail to schedule a school they see as a threat to them, whether in terms of model. philosophy, or whatever. Grand Canyon University is also a full Division I member, but there was hell to pay when a P5 school scheduled them, because they are seen as a University of Phoenix clone. People are critical because GCU is seen as a threat, and a different philosophy. I think the same can be said of Liberty, who is not GCU but have taken elements of it to grow what has been a massively successful educational model.

Probably was a bit clumsily stated. I have to believe there are some people that will just not scheduled them for stupid reasons. But Liberty has a good working relationship with the ACC, among many other conferences. They are not GCU.

[Libertine]

That was an old comment, but I'll attempt to clarify. Many schools will fail to schedule a school they see as a threat to them, whether in terms of model. philosophy, or whatever. Grand Canyon University is also a full Division I member, but there was hell to pay when a P5 school scheduled them, because they are seen as a University of Phoenix clone. People are critical because GCU is seen as a threat, and a different philosophy. I think the same can be said of Liberty, who is not GCU but have taken elements of it to grow what has been a massively successful educational model.

Probably was a bit clumsily stated. I have to believe there are some people that will just not scheduled them for stupid reasons. But Liberty has a good working relationship with the ACC, among many other conferences. They are not GCU.

Much better. xthumbsupx

[ETSUfan1]

Looks like Davidson dropped College of Faith for Kentucky Wesleyan (D2).

ETSU added Kentucky Wesleyan to the schedule today and dropped Faith as well.

[bonarae]

Uh oh. HBU and Valpo still have CoF on their schedules, albeit in different locations.

Meanwhile, let's watch for 2016 opponents, to see if they are all countable... xrulesx

[ccd494]

Uh oh. HBU and Valpo still have CoF on their schedules, albeit in different locations.

Meanwhile, let's watch for 2016 opponents, to see if they are all countable... xrulesx

Neither Houston Baptist nor Valparaiso will be getting an at large bid to the NCAA playoffs, so what does it matter if they play College of Faith or Kentucky Wesleyan?

[bonarae]

Neither Houston Baptist nor Valparaiso will be getting an at large bid to the NCAA playoffs, so what does it matter if they play College of Faith or Kentucky Wesleyan?

Statistical purposes. What if they set records of their own against those schools?

[DFW HOYA]

Statistical purposes. What if they set records of their own against those schools?

Realistically, it doesn't matter. People don't see a 9-2 record and say "well, that's only 7-2 according to NCAA rules," because the major web sites will count all games and the school likely will too.

[ccd494]

Statistical purposes. What if they set records of their own against those schools?

Probably will. Nothing stopping them from listing it in their own record books.