FIRST 2015 PAYTON, BUCHANAN, RICE OUTLOOK

[smallcollegefbfan]

I'm sure the official lists will come out later this week but I sat down and wrote out who I would have on the lists, along with noting the changes I made compared to the preseason lists.

There were a few others I could have easily mentioned but didn't want to put too many in the "just missed" category. I may have done that anyway in the Buchanan race.

The Rice list will grow the most as the season unfolds.

OUTLOOK- SEPTEMBER 28, 2014

MY WALTER PAYTON WATCH LIST
QB Vernon Adams, Eastern Washington, Jr.- 133-196-1808 yards, 20 TD, 3 INT, 67.9%, 361.6 yds/gm, 176 pass eff., 50 carries, 119 yards, 2 TD in 5 games.
RB Malcolm Agnew, Southern Illinois, Sr.- 86 carries, 544 yards, 6.3ypc, 7 TD, 108.8 yds/gm, 9 catches, 164 yards, 18.2ypc, 2 TD in 5 games.
QB Bryan Bennett, Southeastern Louisiana, Sr.- 68-128, 1160 yards, 8 TD, 5 INT, 53.1%, 232 yds/gm, 142.1 pass eff., 59 carries, 260 yards, 4.4ypc, 6 TD in 5 games.
RB John Crockett, North Dakota State, Sr.- 84 carries, 485 yards, 5.8ypc, 6 TDs, 121.2 yds/gm, 6 catches, 66 yards, 11.0ypc in 4 games.
RB Khairi Dickson, Saint Francis PA, Jr., - 126 carries, 759 yards, 6.0ypc, 6 TD, 189.8 yds/gm, 4 catches, 15 yards in 4 games.
QB Quinn Epperly, Princeton, Sr.- 40-71, 413 yards, 2 TD, 2 INT, 56.3%, 206.5 yds/gm, 108.9 pass eff., 21 carries, 118 yards, 5.6ypc, 5 TD in 2 games.
WR R.J. Harris, New Hampshire, Sr.- 31 catches, 490 yards, 15.8ypc, 5 TDs, 122.5 yds/gm, 2 carries, 31 yards, 1 TD in 4 games.
RB De’Angelo Henderson, Coastal Carolina, Soph.- 80 carries, 564 yards, 7.1ypc, 7 TD, 112.8 yds/gm, 14 catches, 137 yards in 5 games.
RB David Johnson, UNI, Sr.- 63 carries, 395 yards, 6.3ypc, 1 TD, 98.8 yds/gm, 12 catches, 285 yards, 23.8ypc, 1 TD in 4 games.
RB Gus Johnson, Stephen F. Austin, Sr.- 58 carries, 492 yards, 8.5ypc, 9 TD, 123.0 yds/gm, 5 catches, 44 yards in 4 games.
WR Chris King, Duquesne, Jr.- 30 catches, 513 yards, 17.1ypc, 5 TD, 128.2 yds/gm in 4 games.
WR Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington, Jr.- 31 catches, 453 yards, 14.6ypc, 7 TD, 113.2 yds/gm in 4 game.
QB Michael Nebrich, Fordham, Sr.- 11-182, 1451 yards, 12 TD, 4 INT, 61.0%, 290.2 yds/gm, 145.3 pass eff., 24 carries, -19 yards, 1 TD in 5 games.
TE MyCole Pruitt, Southern Illinois, Sr.- 35 catches, 412 yards, 11.8ypc, 5 TD, 82.4 yds/gm in 5 games.
QB John Robertson, Villanova, Jr.- 70-99, 982 yards, 12 TD, 0 INT, 70.7%, 245.5 yds/gm, 68 carries, 240 yards, 1 TD in 4 games.
RB Martin Ruiz, Youngstown State, Soph.- 88 carries, 454 yards, 5.2ypc, 6 TD, 113.5 yds/gm, 5 catches, 49 yards in 4 games.
QB Michael Strauss, Richmond, Sr.- 85-120, 1086 yards, 6 TD, 2 INT, 70.8%, 271.5 yds/gm, 7 carries, -34 yards in 4 games.
RB Darius Victor, Towson, Soph.- 109 carries, 588 yards, 5.7ypc, 6 TD, 117.6 yds/gm, 1 catch, 1 yard in 5 games.
RB Herb Walker Jr., Morgan State, Soph.- 107 carries, 712 yards, 6.7ypc, 7 TD, 142.4 yds/gm, 1 catch, 17 yards, 1 TD in 5 games.
RB Zach Zenner, South Dakota State, Sr.- 95 carries, 645 yards, 6.8ypc, 6 TD, 161.2 yds/gm, 7 catches, 41 yards in 4 games.

ADDED
RB Malcolm Agnew, Southern Illinois, Sr.- 86 carries, 544 yards, 6.3ypc, 7 TD, 108.8 yds/gm, 9 catches, 164 yards, 18.2ypc, 2 TD in 5 games.
RB John Crockett, North Dakota State, Sr.- 84 carries, 485 yards, 5.8ypc, 6 TDs, 121.2 yds/gm, 6 catches, 66 yards, 11.0ypc in 4 games.
RB Khairi Dickson, Saint Francis PA, Jr., - 126 carries, 759 yards, 6.0ypc, 6 TD, 189.8 yds/gm, 4 catches, 15 yards in 4 games.
RB De’Angelo Henderson, Coastal Carolina, Soph.- 80 carries, 564 yards, 7.1ypc, 7 TD, 112.8 yds/gm, 14 catches, 137 yards in 5 games.
RB Gus Johnson, Stephen F. Austin, Sr.- 58 carries, 492 yards, 8.5ypc, 9 TD, 123.0 yds/gm, 5 catches, 44 yards in 4 games.
WR Chris King, Duquesne, Jr.- 30 catches, 513 yards, 17.1ypc, 5 TD, 128.2 yds/gm in 4 games.
RB Martin Ruiz, Youngstown State, Soph.- 88 carries, 454 yards, 5.2ypc, 6 TD, 113.5 yds/gm, 5 catches, 49 yards in 4 games.
RB Darius Victor, Towson, Soph.- 109 carries, 588 yards, 5.7ypc, 6 TD, 117.6 yds/gm, 1 catch, 1 yard in 5 games.
RB Herb Walker Jr., Morgan State, Soph.- 107 carries, 712 yards, 6.7ypc, 7 TD, 142.4 yds/gm, 1 catch, 17 yards, 1 TD in 5 games.

DROPPED
WR Sam Ajala, Fordham, Sr.- 23 catches, 377 yards, 16.4ypc, 94.2 yds/gm in 5 games.
WR Kenny Cook, Gardner-Webb, Sr.- 17 catches, 175 yards, 10.3ypc, 2 TD in 3 games.
RB Rob Hollomon, Central Connecticut State, Sr.- 78 carries, 343 yards, 4.4ypc, 2 TD, 85.8 yds/gm, 21 catches, 128 yards, 6.1ypc in 4 games.
QB Jacob Huesman, Chattanooga, Jr.- 51-82, 503 yards, 4 TD, 4 INT, 62.2%, 125.8d yds/gm, 52 carries, 161 yards, 2 TD in 4 games.
RB Damarcus James, Jacksonville State, Sr.- 76 carries, 344 yards, 4.5ypc, 5 TD, 86.0 yds/gm in 4 games.
QB Jordan Johnson, Montana, Sr.- 66-121, 681 yards, 6 TD, 2 INT, 54.5%, 170.2 yds/gm, 114.9 pass eff., 13 carries, 55 yards, 1 TD in 4 games.
RB Shepard Little, Eastern Illinois, Jr.- 22 carries, 107 yards, 4.9ypc, 7 catches, 79 yards in 3 games.
QB Alex Ross, Coastal Carolina, Jr.- 103-150, 1135 yards, 5 TD, 4 INT, 68.7%, 227 yds/gm, 137.89 pass eff., 51 carries, 251 yards, 4.9ypc, 3 TD in 5 games.
RB Keshaudas Spence, Sacred Heart, Sr.- 77 carries, 289 yards, 3.8ypc, 1 TD, 72.2 yds/gm, 3 catches, 32 yards in 4 games.

JUST MISSED
RB Malcolm Cyrus, Alabama State, Sr.- 101 carries, 722 yards, 7.1ypc, 4 TD, 144.4 yds/gm, 10 catches, 160 yards, 16.0ypc, 1 TD in 5 games.
RB Quincy Forte, Eastern Washington, Sr.- 55 catches, 410 yards, 7.5ypc, 4 TD, 136.7 yds/gm, 7 catches, 68 yards in 3 games.
WR Shaydon Kehano, Weber State, Sr.- 44 catches, 511 yards, 11.6ypc, 5 TD, 102.2 yds/gm in 5 games.
QB Dakota Prukop, Montana State, Soph.- 81-119, 1150 yards, 8 TD, 3 INT, 68.1%, 230.0 yds/gm, 166.4 pass eff., 74 carries, 320 yards, 4.3ypc, 6 TD, 64.0 yds/gm in 5 games.
RB Ross Scheuerman, Lafayette, Sr.- 81 carries, 524 yards, 6.5ypc, 3 TD, 131.0 yds/gm, 14 catches, 152 yards, 10.9ypc, 1 TD, 1 KR, 90 yards, 1 TD in 4 games.
RB Tyler Varga, Yale, Sr.- 47 carries, 337 yards, 7.2ypc, 6 TD, 168.5 yds/gm, 3 catches, 35 yards in 2 games.

MY TOP 5


QB Vernon Adams, Eastern Washington, Jr.- 133-196-1808 yards, 20 TD, 3 INT, 67.9%, 361.6 yds/gm, 176 pass eff., 50 carries, 119 yards, 2 TD in 5 games.
QB John Robertson, Villanova, Jr.- 70-99, 982 yards, 12 TD, 0 INT, 70.7%, 245.5 yds/gm, 68 carries, 240 yards, 1 TD in 4 games.
RB Zach Zenner, South Dakota State, Sr.- 95 carries, 645 yards, 6.8ypc, 6 TD, 161.2 yds/gm, 7 catches, 41 yards in 4 games.
RB Malcolm Agnew, Southern Illinois, Sr.- 86 carries, 544 yards, 6.3ypc, 7 TD, 108.8 yds/gm, 9 catches, 164 yards, 18.2ypc, 2 TD in 5 games.
WR R.J. Harris, New Hampshire, Sr.- 31 catches, 490 yards, 15.8ypc, 5 TDs, 122.5 yds/gm, 2 carries, 31 yards, 1 TD in 4 games.


Vernon Adams holds on to the #1 spot while Robertson has really impressed with his decision making and accuracy to come in at a close #2. Agnew and Harris are both two new names compared to my preseason top 10 list.


MY BUCK BUCHANAN WATCH LIST
LB Quinn Backus, Coastal Carolina, Sr.- 51 TKL, 6 TFL, 3 SACKS, 1 INT, 3 PBU, 4 FF in 5 games.
LB Tony Bell, UT Martin, Sr.- 27 TKL, 7 TFL, 0.5 SACK, 1 INT, 2 PBU, 7 QBH, 1 FR in 5 games.
LB Isiah Corbett, Southeastern Louisiana, Sr.- 33 TKL, 5 TFL, 1 SACK, 2 INT, 2 PBU in 5 games.
DE James Cowser, Southern Utah, Jr.- 46 TKL, 14.5 TFL, 5.5 SACKS, 2 QBH in 5 games.
DE Ryan Delaire, Towson, Sr.- 34 TKL, 9 TFL, 6 SACKS, 1 PBU, 2 QBH, 1 FF in 5 games.
DE Kyle Emanuel, North Dakota State, Sr.- 21 TKL, 8.5 TFL, 5 SACKS, 2 PBU, 3 QBH, 2 FF in 4 games.
S Jacob Hagen, Liberty, Sr.- 42 TKL, 0.5 TFL, 2 INT, 2 PBU, 1 FR, 2 FF in 5 games.
DT Javon Hargrave, South Carolina State, Jr.- 23 TKL, 8.5 TFL, 5 SACKS, 5 QBH, 1 FR returned for TD in 5 games.
DE Zach Hodges, Harvard, Sr.- 3 TKL, 2 TFL, 2 SACKS, 2 FR in 2 games.
S Dean Marlowe, James Madison, Sr.- 36 TKL, 3 TFL, 3 PBU in 5 games.
DT O.J. Mau, Gardner-Webb, Jr.- 25 TKL, 7 TFL, 2 SACKS, 1 FF in 5 games.
DE Mike Reilly, William & Mary, Sr.- 19 TKL, 5 TFL, 5 SACKS, 2 QBH, 1 FF, BLK in 5 games.
CB De’Ante Saunders, Tennessee State, Sr.- 13 TKL, 1.5 TFL, 3 INT, 4 PBU in 5 games.
S Caleb Schaffitzel, Missouri State, Sr.- 33 TKL, 1.5 TFL, 1 INT, 4 PBU in 4 games.
S Jaquiski Tartt, Samford, Sr.- 22 TKL, 1 PBU in 4 games.
LB Lynden Trail, Norfolk State, Sr.- 36 TKL, 6 TFL, 3.5 SACKS, 2 PBU, 4 QBH, 1 FR, 2 FF, 1 BLK in 5 games.
DE Davis Tull, Chattanooga, Sr.- 18 TKL, 7 TFL, 3 SACKS, 4 QBH, 2 FF, 1 BLK in 4 games.
DE Connor Underwood, Indiana State, Jr.- 32 TKL, 9.5 TFL, 5 SACKS, 2 PBU, 5 QBH, 1 FR, 1 FF in 4 games.
DE Zack Wagenmann, Montana, Sr.- 31 TKL, 8.5 TFL, 7 SACKS, 2 PBU, 2 QBH, 1 FR, 1 FF in 5 games.
DE Jonathan Woodard, Central Arkansas, Jr.- 26 TKL, 8 TFL, 2.5 SACKS in 5 games.

ADDED
LB Isiah Corbett, Southeastern Louisiana, Sr.- 33 TKL, 5 TFL, 1 SACK, 2 INT, 2 PBU in 5 games.
DE Ryan Delaire, Towson, Sr.- 34 TKL, 9 TFL, 6 SACKS, 1 PBU, 2 QBH, 1 FF in 5 games.
DE Kyle Emanuel, North Dakota State, Sr.- 21 TKL, 8.5 TFL, 5 SACKS, 2 PBU, 3 QBH, 2 FF in 4 games.
DT Javon Hargrave, South Carolina State, Jr.- 23 TKL, 8.5 TFL, 5 SACKS, 5 QBH, 1 FR returned for TD in 5 games.
S Dean Marlowe, James Madison, Sr.- 36 TKL, 3 TFL, 3 PBU in 5 games.
CB De’Ante Saunders, Tennessee State, Sr.- 13 TKL, 1.5 TFL, 3 INT, 4 PBU in 5 games.
DE Connor Underwood, Indiana State, Jr.- 32 TKL, 9.5 TFL, 5 SACKS, 2 PBU, 5 QBH, 1 FR, 1 FF in 4 games.

DROPPED
S Daniel Fitzpatrick, Tennessee State, Sr.- 21 TKL, 1.5 TFL, 4 PBU in 4 games.
LB Ronnie Hamlin, Eastern Washington, Sr.- 36 TKL, 3 TFL, 1 FF in 4 games.
S Colten Heagle, North Dakota State, Sr.- 21 TKL, 2 TFL, 1 INT, 1 PBU, 1 QBH in 4 games.
LB Stephen Hodge, Fordham, Sr.- Has not played.
CB Harlan Miller, Southeastern Louisiana, Jr.- 8 TT in 4 games.
DT Troy Moore, Sacred Heart, Sr.- 26 TKL, 2 TFL, 1 INT in 4 games.
CB Tye Smith, Towson, Sr.- 28 TKL, 0.5 TFL, 1 PBU, 1 FF in 5 games.

JUST MISSED
DE Anthony Bass, Tennessee State, Sr.- 18 TKL, 9 TFL, 5.5 SACKS, 1 INT, 2 PBU, 3 QBH, 1 FF, 1 SAF in 5 games.
LB Kourtney Berry, Alabama State, Soph.- 52 TKL, 6 TFL, 2 SACKS, 2 PBU, 7 QBH, 1 FR in 5 games.
LB Evan Byers, Bucknell, Sr.- 52 TKL, 4 TFL, 1 SACK, 1 PBU, 1 FR in 4 games.
LB Don Cherry, Villanova, Jr.- 33 TKL, 9.5 TFL, 4.5 SACKS, 1 FF in 4 games.
DE Samson Ebukam, Eastern Washington, Soph.- 14 TKL, 5 TFL, 4 SACKS in 4 games.
S Clayton Ewell, Bucknell, Jr.- 24 TKL, 3 TFL, 1.5 SACKS, 3 INT, 1 PBU in 4 games.
DE Sage Harold, James Madison, Sr.- 24 TKL, 5.5 TFL, 4 SACKS, 1 PBU, 4 QBH, 1 FR, 2 FF in 5 games.
DT Derrick Lott, Chattanooga, Sr.- 14 TKL, 6 TFL, 2 SACKS, 3 QBH, 1 FR in 4 games.
DE Alec May, Georgetown, Sr.- 42 TKL, 11 TFL, 9.5 SACKS, 1 PBU, 1 QBH, 1 FF in 5 games.
S Tevin McDonald, Eastern Washington, Sr.- 33 TKL, 3 TFL, 1 INT, 4 PBU, 1 FR, 2 FF in 5 games.
DE Edward Mosley, Alabama State, Sr.- 15 TKL, 6.5 TFL, 4 SACKS, 2 QBH, 1 FF in 5 games.
LB Luke Rhodes, William & Mary, Jr.- 40 TKL, 3 TFL, 2 SACKS, 1 PBU, 2 QBH, 1 FR, 1 FF in 5 games.
S Christian Ricard, Stony Brook, Sr.- 35 TKL, 11.5 TFL, 6 SACKS, 1 QBH in 5 games.
DE Gary Wilkins, Furman, Sr.- 24 TKL, 7.5 TFL, 4.5 SACKS, 1 INT, 2 PBU, 2 QBH, 2 FF in 5 games.
DT Xavier Williams, UNI, Sr.- 24 TKL, 4.5 TFL, 3 SACKS in 4 games.
LB Mike Zeuli, Princeton, Sr., - 14 TKL, 6.5 TFL, 3 SACKS in 2 games.

MY TOP 5


LB Lynden Trail, Norfolk State, Sr.- 36 TKL, 6 TFL, 3.5 SACKS, 2 PBU, 4 QBH, 1 FR, 2 FF, 1 BLK in 5 games.
DE Zack Wagenmann, Montana, Sr.- 31 TKL, 8.5 TFL, 7 SACKS, 2 PBU, 2 QBH, 1 FR, 1 FF in 5 games.
DE Connor Underwood, Indiana State, Jr.- 32 TKL, 9.5 TFL, 5 SACKS, 2 PBU, 5 QBH, 1 FR, 1 FF in 4 games.
DE James Cowser, Southern Utah, Jr.- 46 TKL, 14.5 TFL, 5.5 SACKS, 2 QBH in 5 games.
LB Quinn Backus, Coastal Carolina, Sr.- 51 TKL, 6 TFL, 3 SACKS, 1 INT, 3 PBU, 4 FF in 5 games.


Only Underwood is a new name to my top 10 or so names coming into the season. Trail is the best defensive player in FCS and is playing like it weekly. Wagenmann’s motor never stops and Underwood has really built on his sophomore season. He’s one of the best in the country now. Cowser is a name to keep an eye on this year and in 2015. Backus just keeps making plays and leading that nationally-ranked Coastal Carolina squad.


MY JERRY RICE WATCH LIST
K Preston Clark, Alabama State- 10-11 FG, 90.9%, 44 long, 19-20 PAT, 34 punts, 1161 yards, 34.1avg, 54 long, 3 TB, 13 FC, 13 I20, 2 50+ in 5 games.
QB Al Cobb, VMI- 119-177, 1309 yards, 7 TD, 5 INT, 67.2%, 261.8 yds/gm, 136.8 pass eff., 15 carries, 13 yards, 1 TD in 5 games.
K Luke Daly, Montana State- 8-10 FG, 80%, 38 long in 5 games.
RB Chase Edmonds, Fordham- 103 carries, 723 yards, 7.0ypc, 8 TD, 144.6 yds/gm, 7 catches, 52 yards, 1 TD in 5 games.
S Drashane Glass, Illinois State- 13 TKL, 2 INT, 1 PBU in 3 games.
P Christian Guzman, Houston Baptist- 20 punts, 912 yards, 45.6avg, 1 TB, 1 FC, 4 I20, 8 50+, 1 BLK in 4 games.
DE P.J. Hall, Sam Houston State- 26 TKL, 6.5 TFL, 1.5 SACKS, 1 PBU, 1 BLK in 5 games.
LB Mario Jenkins, Idaho State- 37 TKL, 1.5 TFL, 1 INT, 2 PBU, 3 QBH in 4 games.
RB Alex Lakes, Mercer- 78 carries, 544 yards, 7.0ypc, 9 TD, 108.8 yds/gm in 5 games.
LB Darius Leonard, South Carolina State- 27 TKL, 6.5 TFL, 3 SACKS, 1 PBU, 1 FR, 1 FF in 5 games.
QB Mack Lowrie, Rhode Island- 60-114, 568 yards, 4 TD, 4 INT, 52.6%, 142.0 yds/gm, 99.05 pass eff., 39 carries, 114 yards in 4 games.
CB Jimmy Moreland, James Madison- 17 TKL, 2 INT, 3 PBU in 5 games.
WR Troy Pelletier, Lehigh- 15 catches, 223 yards, 14.9ypc, 3 TD, 55.8 yds/gm in 4 games.
LB Daniel Riddle, Western Carolina- 30 TKL, 4 TFL, 1 SACK, 2 FF in 4 games.
LB James Simms, Towson- 53 TKL, 3.5 TFL, 1 PBU, 2 QBH, 1 FF in 5 games.
LB Emmett Tela, Weber State- 53 TKL, 7 TFL, 2.5 SACKS, 2 QBH in 5 games.
FS Lucas Webb, Chattanooga- 22 TKL, 3 INT, 1 PBU, 1 FR in 4 games.
WR Jake Wieneke, South Dakota State- 12 catches, 222 yards, 18.5ypc, 2 TD, 55.5 yds/gm in 4 games.
DT Blaine Woodson, Delaware- 18 TKL, 5.5 TFL, 5 SACKS, 1 QBH in 4 games.
P Keith Wrzuszczak, Eastern Kentucky- 22 punts, 860 yards, 39.1vg, 60 long, 1 TB, 6 FC, 7 I20, 3 50+ in 4 games.

JUST MISSED
LB Garrett Dolan, Houston Baptist, 41 TKL, 4 TFL, 2.5 SACKS, 1 PBU in 4 games.
S Ryan Neal, Southern Illinois- 25 TKL, 1 TFL, 2 PBU in 5 games.
P Nick Neidig, Southern Illinois- 14 punts, 589 yards, 42.1avg, 75 long, 3 TB, 3 FC, 7 I20, 3 50+ in 5 games.

MY TOP 5


RB Chase Edmonds, Fordham- 103 carries, 723 yards, 7.0ypc, 8 TD, 144.6 yds/gm, 7 catches, 52 yards, 1 TD in 5 games.
RB Alex Lakes, Mercer- 78 carries, 544 yards, 7.0ypc, 9 TD, 108.8 yds/gm in 5 games.
DT Blaine Woodson, Delaware- 18 TKL, 5.5 TFL, 5 SACKS, 1 QBH in 4 games.
LB Emmett Tela, Weber State- 53 TKL, 7 TFL, 2.5 SACKS, 2 QBH in 5 games.
P Christian Guzman, Houston Baptist- 20 punts, 912 yards, 45.6avg, 1 TB, 1 FC, 4 I20, 8 50+, 1 BLK in 4 games.


Edmonds is running away with is so far while Lakes, Woodson, and Tela have all become leaders of their respective units and are worth mention this year. Guzman is the best freshman punter in the country right now and potentially going to be an All-American.

[rokamortis]

I think Ross hasn't look as sharp as he should, but I am a little surprised you dropped him in favor of a couple of the other QBs on your list.

[smallcollegefbfan]

I think Ross hasn't look as sharp as he should, but I am a little surprised you dropped him in favor of a couple of the other QBs on your list.

All of the others were on the official preseason list and not quite bad enough yet to drop them.

[BisonFan02]

Emanuel > Wagenmann

[smallcollegefbfan]

Emanuel > Wagenmann

He got slight edge because numbers are slightly better, extremely high motor, and was on the list in preseason. It was close. I almost put Emanuel in the top 5!

[semobison]

Emanuel > Wagenmann

I agree, without a doubt! I'm usually not real big into individual awards but it does amaze me how the hands down best defense in the country 4 years running rarely has players up for individual awards. Four games into 2014 and I have not seen anyone yet who can block Kyle Emanuel. The last Bison defensive lineman to play at this level was Phil Hansen! For those of you who don't know who he is look up, Buffalo Bills ring of honor!

[rokamortis]

All of the others were on the official preseason list and not quite bad enough yet to drop them.

Ross was on the official preseason list as well - so you think he is doing worse than all of the QBs on your list? Can you provide your reasoning?

[smallcollegefbfan]

I agree, without a doubt! I'm usually not real big into individual awards but it does amaze me how the hands down best defense in the country 4 years running rarely has players up for individual awards. Four games into 2014 and I have not seen anyone yet who can block Kyle Emanuel. The last Bison defensive lineman to play at this level was Phil Hansen! For those of you who don't know who he is look up, Buffalo Bills ring of honor!

He has been special. I think you could also mention Dudzik and Littlejohn as well. All 3 of them should be in NFL camps, along with John Crockett. You guys just have a stacked team. You don't have the best player in the country at a position neccarisly but you have many who would be top 3-5 at their position and not one single player who starts who is just bad. Every starter you have would start at most FCS teams and somewhere in the FBS. I think you have 8-9 players who could easily start in the ACC, Pac-12, Big 12, SEC, or Big Ten.

[smallcollegefbfan]

Ross was on the official preseason list as well - so you think he is doing worse than all of the QBs on your list? Can you provide your reasoning?

My reasoning here is not that he is doing worse than all of them but of the QBs who I could potentially drop at this point, he's the only one who has a better player on his own unit. TD/INT ratio for Ross is not that good. The only reason I left Bennett and Epperly are their rushing TDs are better than Ross. Nebrich has been lights out almost since the awful showing against Villanova.

I prefer Henderson over Ross and so I went with him. I'm not killing Ross. If he puts up a few big games then I will certainly flip them back. I have seen one of your games on tape and I was impressed with Henderson. He flashed for me last year and always marked him as a potential add since I saw him a couple times last season.

I try to stay away from two players on the same unit unless they are both clearly among the top 3 or 4 at their position and it's a no brainer.

Look at SIU. Pruitt is the best TE and Agnew is the leading rusher in a stacked MVFC. Then I have two from EWU. Adams is the top rated QB while Kupp is clearly still a top 2 WR. That's it.

[BisonFan02]

What is weird for Emanuel is only having 3 QBH....he had that in one series against Montana. JJ was running for his life all game.

[Houndawg]

What is weird for Emanuel is only having 3 QBH....he had that in one series against Montana. JJ was running for his life all game.

Maybe Montana tried to block him with one?

[Grizalltheway]

Maybe Montana tried to block him with one?
"Tried" has been the key word with our O-line this year.:(

[BisonFan02]

Maybe Montana tried to block him with one?

Not often. Emanuel was getting a lot of attention and the tackle was getting help. Montana's OL will be a work in progress this season, but the talent is there.

[rokamortis]

My reasoning here is not that he is doing worse than all of them but of the QBs who I could potentially drop at this point, he's the only one who has a better player on his own unit. TD/INT ratio for Ross is not that good. The only reason I left Bennett and Epperly are their rushing TDs are better than Ross. Nebrich has been lights out almost since the awful showing against Villanova.

I prefer Henderson over Ross and so I went with him. I'm not killing Ross. If he puts up a few big games then I will certainly flip them back. I have seen one of your games on tape and I was impressed with Henderson. He flashed for me last year and always marked him as a potential add since I saw him a couple times last season.

I try to stay away from two players on the same unit unless they are both clearly among the top 3 or 4 at their position and it's a no brainer.

Look at SIU. Pruitt is the best TE and Agnew is the leading rusher in a stacked MVFC. Then I have two from EWU. Adams is the top rated QB while Kupp is clearly still a top 2 WR. That's it.

If it is two players from the same unit, then I can see your point but I'm not sure if Henderson is going to put up strong enough numbers this year. He is a great athlete though. I think part of the problem with Ross or Henderson is that we try to be balanced so neither is going to have the gaudy numbers of more one dimensional offenses.

[lionsrking2]

CB Harlan Miller, Southeastern Louisiana, Jr.- 8 TT in 4 games.

Harlan separated his shoulder early in the Tulane game and has really only played one full game and parts of two others. He'll be out at least a couple of more weeks it looks like.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Emanuel > Wagenmann

Yeah no kidding, that was a major fu8k up on that list that isnt even close.

[Green26]

He got slight edge because numbers are slightly better, extremely high motor, and was on the list in preseason. It was close. I almost put Emanuel in the top 5!

Wagenmann is the better player and will put up nice numbers the rest of the season. In the NDS/UM game, Emanuel was playing against a UM frosh, who started the season 4th on the depth chart. Grossly undersized at this point of his career. Was pressed into service due to an academic ineligible player and injuries. Emanuel had 3 tackles in the game, as did Wagenmann.

[Green26]

Not often. Emanuel was getting a lot of attention and the tackle was getting help. Montana's OL will be a work in progress this season, but the talent is there.

Bison's statement is not accurate.

[HailSzczur]

One thing that could end up killing Robertson is the huge, early leads we've been getting. Robertson was out midway through the 3rd against Fordham, and the snaps he saw in the 2nd half we're all pretty much hand offs. Likewise this week at Penn, he was on the sideline the whole 2nd half with a 34 point lead. Last week vs JMU he also did a ton of handing off to kill the clock and avoid injuries

[smallcollegefbfan]

Harlan separated his shoulder early in the Tulane game and has really only played one full game and parts of two others. He'll be out at least a couple of more weeks it looks like.

Tough break! For a DB to have a shot they must have good numbers and now the only way he should be added back (meaning he has a shot) is if he can pick off 4 or 5 passes in his first 3 games back. He is going to need numbers to get back in the hunt.

[smallcollegefbfan]

Bison's statement is not accurate.

UM thinks Wagenmann is better and NDSU thinks Emanuel is better. Truthfully you can go with either one. I fully expected fans of both schools to stick up for their own guy.

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One thing that could end up killing Robertson is the huge, early leads we've been getting. Robertson was out midway through the 3rd against Fordham, and the snaps he saw in the 2nd half we're all pretty much hand offs. Likewise this week at Penn, he was on the sideline the whole 2nd half with a 34 point lead. Last week vs JMU he also did a ton of handing off to kill the clock and avoid injuries

Yes that happens. That is another reason why I think you have to put him up there. People should see he is leading his team to big wins. He's got to be in the top 5.

[chattownmocs]

Tull is better than both of them.

[Houndawg]

Bison's statement is not accurate.

So you let your freshman take him one on one? He must be really good.

[BisonFan02]

Bison's statement is not accurate.

Meh....I know what game I watched and I guess respectfully disagree with you.

EDIT: I will add though, just because I think Emanuel is better than Wagenmann, I would still have Wagenmann in my top 5.

[Bisonator]

Wagenmann is the better player and will put up nice numbers the rest of the season. In the NDS/UM game, Emanuel was playing against a UM frosh, who started the season 4th on the depth chart. Grossly undersized at this point of his career. Was pressed into service due to an academic ineligible player and injuries. Emanuel had 3 tackles in the game, as did Wagenmann.

The better player can probably be debated for ever and we still wouldn't agree. I'm sure Wagenmann will put up nice numbers in the pass happy big fluffy where he can pin his ears back and not worry as much about the run game. We saw how great he was against a big physical oline and quality run game.

[SIUSalukiFan]

MyCole Pruitt of Southern Illinois won't win any national awards, but I can pretty much guarantee we'll be watching him play on Sundays next year. Dude is a beast. Purdue couldn't cover him with two guys.

[kalm]

Bisonater ...You do realize that Poly and PSU are perennial top 5 rushing attacks and even EWU has a near 50/50 pass to run ratio the last few years?

[FargoBison]

Wagenmann was basically invisible in the NDSU-Montana game, so these comments aren't exactly shock coming from NDSU fans.

I will add an unbiased source called Emmanuel the best player on the field in that game.

[melloware13]

I'm happy to see Woodson on the list, extra special connection for me because I graduated HS with his older brother. I wonder if SFA's RB might go into broadcasting with FOX (although nobody can match that Gus Johnson's intensity).

[Bisonator]

Bisonater ...You do realize that Poly and PSU are perennial top 5 rushing attacks and even EWU has a near 50/50 pass to run ratio the last few years?

I'll give you Poly but PSU sucks. And EWU is the top of the Fluffy and it isn't close. I wouldn't say any of them have big physical olines though.

[Red & Black]

I'll give you Poly but PSU sucks. And EWU is the top of the Fluffy and it isn't close. I wouldn't say any of them have big physical olines though.

Hmm...Montana traditionally has huge offensive lineman, although perhaps not this year because of all the injuries and other issues their O Line doesn't look quite the same as in the past. But traditionally, they have very good O Lines by any standard.

All of EWU's tackles are 6'6/6'7 300 pound athletic type guys and the guards are mostly 300+ pounders as well, save some of the younger kids. EWU runs the ball a lot, the exception being 2011 when pretty much our entire O Line was decimated. We're just not thought of as much of a running team because of the passing numbers.

Poly and PSU run the ball a lot and are usually in the top 5/10 in the FCS for rushing. NAU has also been a good running team in recent years, and Weber is usually a pretty physical team even if they haven't had a ton of success in the W/L column im recent years.


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[kalm]

I'll give you Poly but PSU sucks. And EWU is the top of the Fluffy and it isn't close. I wouldn't say any of them have big physical olines though.

PSU may suck but they have typically finished in the top 10 of rushing in the nation the last few years. NAU and Cal Davis featured power running attacks last year. Davis is the same type of physical team on both sides of the ball this season with coach Ron Gould coming over from Stanford where he was the running backs coach. As mentioned above, Montana typically has big physical lines as does Weber.

[smallcollegefbfan]

MyCole Pruitt of Southern Illinois won't win any national awards, but I can pretty much guarantee we'll be watching him play on Sundays next year. Dude is a beast. Purdue couldn't cover him with two guys.

He will definitely get a shot. The only downside to him is that he needs to be stronger as a blocker and he is just 6'2. I don't know if he would be an h-back or is truly a tweener. Some teams will have trouble finding where to fit him in their system but I'm sure someone will make him work. If he isn't drafted in the late rounds he will be a highly sought after player as a UDFA. I have a draftable grade on Pruitt as of now.

[ngineer]

Wow, Pelletier getting recognition already as a freshman. The kid does have the tools to be another Spadola. We shall see how he progresses and builds up. Appears he has a frame to grow.
Surprised Varga not on the list. The guy is a BEAST.

[srgrizizen]

If JJ was running for his life the entire NDSU game, why didn't Emanuel ever catch him? Wagenmann would have. xlolx