Patriot League Pick 'em - Week 1

[carney2]

Week 1:

Saturday August 30

Wagner @ GEORGETOWN

VMI @ BUCKNELL

St. Francis (PA) @ FORDHAM

HOLY CROSS @ Albany

COLGATE @ Ball State

BYE: LAFAYETTE, LEHIGH

Game of the Week: VMI @ BUCKNELL
Not exactly a battle of titans, but it will be interesting to see if the Bison have the QB they need to get into contention.

[RichH2]

Thanks carney,made my day:)
Following are,of course subject to a ridiculous number of changes over next 2 weeks.
Wagner over Hoyas
Bison over VMI
Cross over Albany in a much harder game than Cross fans are anticipating.
Ball St over Gate ugly
Rams in a rout ,

[2ram]

bucknell over VMI - because the PL is underrated
wagner over gtown - because gtown is gtown
fordham uber alles - #doesn'tmatterwhotheyplay
holy cross over albany - the cross qb is going to light it up
ball state over the 'gate - sad but true

[jimbo65]

Bison over VMI, Kaydets get buffaloed

Wagner over Gtown, Seahawks soar

Fordham over SF, big time victory to start the season

Crusaders show the Danes are far from Great

Ball rolls Raiders, Breakers forever

[Pard4Life]

Forget week 1... go straight to week 2 because the Brown Clowns are playing, and that's what the Patriot League is all about! xdrunkyx

[Pard4Life]

bucknell over VMI - because the PL is underrated
wagner over gtown - because gtown is gtown
fordham uber alles - #doesn'tmatterwhotheyplay
holy cross over albany - the cross qb is going to light it up
ball state over the 'gate - sad but true

Um, 9/6 and 10/3? xcoffeex

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Finally, fall is here with Patriot League Pick 'Em!

[Gangtackle11]

Week 1:


Saturday August 30


20 Wagner @ GEORGETOWN 23


14 VMI @ BUCKNELL 19


10 St. Francis (PA) @ FORDHAM 35


14 HOLY CROSS @ Albany 17


Sunday, August 31


14 COLGATE @ Ball State 28


BYE: LAFAYETTE, LEHIGH

[Southsider]

Forget week 1... go straight to week 2 because the Brown Clowns are playing, and that's what the Patriot League is all about! xdrunkyx


You've got to be related to Citdog............xnodx

[carney2]

Saturday August 30

Wagner @ GEORGETOWN - Wagner. The Hoyas are not even up to this level.

VMI @ BUCKNELL - BUCKNELL. Even if not a potential contender, the Bufs are way better than the Keydets.

St. Francis (PA) @ FORDHAM - FORDHAM. It may indeed NOT be "no matter who they play" as someone said, but this game is a bad scrimmage and the Rams AD should be shot for scheduling it.

HOLY CROSS @ Albany - HOLY CROSS. Albany is CAA in name only. The Cross may not yet be ready for prime time, but they should be ready for this.

Sunday, August 31

COLGATE @ Ball State - Ball State. Some think that this is merely Chapter 1 of Roll Over and Play Dead in Hamilton. A total mismatch.

BYE: LAFAYETTE, LEHIGH - Both lose. One gets blown out.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

SFPA is a return game on a home-and-home for Fordham. My understanding is that Fordham's trip to Loretto last season was, um, not exactly the same as West Point.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Very interesting that many here have donned some purple-colored glasses when it comes to Albany/Holy Cross. I haven't peeked at that game yet, but my initial reaction would be to pick Albany because they're still a CAA team.

[RichH2]

Albany has lots of RS players coming in this yr. Cross edge is playing them early and Pujols. Cross fans thinking a big win are a tad delusional IMO. Think Cross will win a close very tough game.

[Southsider]

New coach, new home digs, gotta be very hungry after dismal 2013. Going with the Danes. Wouldn't mind being wrong, though

[Fordhamanhattan]

The Hoya falls flat to the Staten Islanders 34-10
The Bison ramble over the Kidets 28-12
The Maroon defrocks Saint Francis 45-15
The Cross shocks the Dogs of New York's sad capital 43-14
My crystal ball has the toothpaste heirs shocking in Ohio 24-23

[ngineer]

Forget week 1... go straight to week 2 because the Brown Clowns are playing, and that's what the Patriot League is all about! xdrunkyx

+1xnodxxthumbsupx

[ngineer]

Bison stampede VMI and have everyone a twitter
Wagner beats Hoyas while playing Wagner in an orchestral performance
Crusaders should beat the Danes; but I call this a real toss-up
St. Francis looks for Assise as well points and comes up empty. Rams rest after halftime
Colgate not ready for Ball State Breakers

[Bill]

Here we go! A this point, I can't believe I will pick scores, but what the heck:
Saturday August 30

Wagner @ GEORGETOWN - Wagner just too much for Gtown, 34-10

VMI @ BUCKNELL - They pummeled us last year, but I'm still not sold on Bucknell. VMI, 26-14.

St. Francis (PA) @ FORDHAM - If Fordham's for real, not even close. Fordham, 42-12.

HOLY CROSS @ Albany - I want to pick HC, I really do...but I can't. Albany, 26-20.

Sunday, August 31

COLGATE @ Ball State - sorry Gate. BSU, 41-10.

[Gater]

Would anyone change their Colgate @ Ball State pick if I told you the game was being played on Saturday the 30th?
Back away from the keyboard, Fordhamanhattan.

[carney2]

Would anyone change their Colgate @ Ball State pick if I told you the game was being played on Saturday the 30th?
Back away from the keyboard, Fordhamanhattan.

Apologies to all. The original post has been corrected.

Unfortunately, they could play this game on Tuesday at 3:00 AM on the deck of the Titanic and nothing would change. Blowout!

[crusader11]

Albany has lots of RS players coming in this yr. Cross edge is playing them early and Pujols. Cross fans thinking a big win are a tad delusional IMO. Think Cross will win a close very tough game.

What makes you think that?

I think this is pretty much a 50/50 game. I fear that Holy Cross' defense will be a work in progress in the early part of the season with a new DC in place. Although, I am confident the offense will be one of the tops in the Patriot League with many of the top receivers, running backs and, of course, Pujals returning.

Neither team will roll in this game.

[PAllen]

Forget week 1... go straight to week 2 because the Brown Clowns are playing, and that's what the Patriot League is all about! xdrunkyx

Damn straight! And that's the Indisputably Fantastic Brown Clowns to you! :D

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Wagner 27 Georgetown 20
Bucknell 24 VMI 13
Fordham 49 St. Francis 24
Albany 20 Holy Cross 17
Ball State 52 Colgate 28

[crusader11]

As for the picks...

Wagner @ GEORGETOWN -- No reason behind this. Just think the Hoyas come out really fired up after reading nothing but disparaging comments and articles about them all throughout the offseason about how they have zero shot to be successful.

VMI @ BUCKNELL -- This won't be close.

St. Francis (PA) @ FORDHAM -- See above.

HOLY CROSS @ Albany -- A real toss-up in my mind. Similar to Georgetown, I think HC comes out with a chip on their shoulder.

COLGATE @ Ball State -- Ball State is a good MAC team. I'd like to see Colgate keep it close, but I fear it won't be.

[PAllen]

Very interesting that many here have donned some purple-colored glasses when it comes to Albany/Holy Cross. I haven't peeked at that game yet, but my initial reaction would be to pick Albany because they're still a CAA team.

They're just being safe. It's the white or yellow accent that's still undecided.

- - - Updated - - -

Wagner, and then rest go to the home team.

[citdog]

You've got to be related to Citdog............xnodx

NOT ONE DROP of yankee blood pollutes my family.

[PAllen]

NOT ONE DROP of yankee blood pollutes my family.

And you can verify that tonight when you look around the dinner table and see all four people who make up the last five generations of your family.

[M Ruler]

NOT ONE DROP of yankee blood pollutes my family.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!! Citidog, sometimes you just make me laugh. I mean that in a good way. At times you are quite entertaining. Other times you flat out scare this Yankee. But on this occasion, you sir, are funny!

Go Danes

[Lehigh Football Nation]

And you can verify that tonight when you look around the dinner table and see all four teeth who make up the last five generations of your family.

FIFY

[Lehigh'98]

Are we keeping our own score for the PL pickem's this year?

[RichH2]

I'm hoping carney will but expect same as last year. For the oldtimers,do miss the Marquis.

[citdog]

And you can verify that tonight when you look around the dinner table and see all four people who make up the last five generations of your family.

Stereotype much? I come from signers of the Dec of Independence, Constitution, and SC's Ordinance of Secession. It is impossible to study the history of the US without coming across us.

[smilo]

Georgetown (They've got to win a game this year, right?)
Bucknell
Fordham
Albany
Ball State (Go Colgate!)

[aceinthehole]

Why does everyone think that Fordham blows out Saint Francis this year?

Last year, the Rams finished a very impressive 12-2 and put up 50+ points vs. 5 opponents (URI, Columbia, Lehigh, Yale, and Colgate). Yet, the Red Flash was up 20-17 at the end of 3Q last year before losing by 3 scores. And we know Sacred Heart gave the Rams a tough out in the first round of the playoffs.

I too predict the Rams will win, but I expect a solid performance from Saint Francis that makes Fordham earn the victory.

[Sader87]

I think the Red Flashes lost a lot from last year....particularly their RB. I'm not saying the Rams are going to win by a "Mini-Ditka" like 77-6.... but at home, with what they have returning, I expect an easy FU W.

[Fordham]

Why does everyone think that Fordham blows out Saint Francis this year?

Last year, the Rams finished a very impressive 12-2 and put up 50+ points vs. 5 opponents (URI, Columbia, Lehigh, Yale, and Colgate). Yet, the Red Flash was up 20-17 at the end of 3Q last year before losing by 3 scores. And we know Sacred Heart gave the Rams a tough out in the first round of the playoffs.

I too predict the Rams will win, but I expect a solid performance from Saint Francis that makes Fordham earn the victory.

I think it's a great point and I respect the heck out of Sacred Heart this year. That said, I agree with sader with the combo of what we have back, what they lost and then that they're traveling out to us v the other way around.

Are there any St Francis previews you can share, ace? Haven't been able to find any. Thanks

[PAllen]

Stereotype much? I come from signers of the Dec of Independence, Constitution, and SC's Ordinance of Secession. It is impossible to study the history of the US without coming across us.

It was a joke.

Congratulations on your ancestry, I'm directly descended from a guy who was given a land grant by William Penn, a guy who came across on the Mayflower as an indentured servant, folks who've fought in every major US war until the Persian Gulf, and some folks who got off the boat at the very end of the 19th century. All that doesn't mean jack about football.

[citdog]

It was a joke.

Congratulations on your ancestry, I'm directly descended from a guy who was given a land grant by William Penn, a guy who came across on the Mayflower as an indentured servant, folks who've fought in every major US war until the Persian Gulf, and some folks who got off the boat at the very end of the 19th century. All that doesn't mean jack about football.


Do you make racist jokes as well or just those lame stereotypes about Southerners?

[PAllen]

Do you make racist jokes as well or just those lame stereotypes about Southerners?

Southerners, Northerners, Easterners, Westerners, Mexicans, Canadians, Jamaicans, Asians, Middle Easterners, Europeans, Africans, I try to be an equal opportunity comedian. Although, admittedly, I'm not always that funny. Look, part of my family tree branches to a guy who didn't like society and wandered off into the mountains back when there was no western civilization west of the blue ridge. That line reappears when he and his grandson walk back out of the woods 30 yrs later. If that's not the basis for a joke or two, I don't know what is.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Week 1 Sportsbook Update

Ball State (-25) vs Colgate

Georgetown (-1½) vs Wagner

Bucknell (-10½) vs VMI

Fordham (-13½) vs St. Francis

*Still no line available for Holy Cross at Albany*

[Lehigh'98]

Fordham line is very tempting.

[Fordhamanhattan]

After seeing the Rams last scrimmage last night, I have a few comments for the Patriot league crowd. Fordham should be much stronger in the defensive pit this year with players suited for the interior line. A couple of Keystone State freshmen running backs are looking great. The QB transfer from Marshall shows a great arm and very good leg speed.

[Bill]

Fordham line is very tempting.

I know this isn't your degenerate gambling thread :)

but do you mean Take Fordham (give the points)?

[Lehigh'98]

I know this isn't your degenerate gambling thread :)

but do you mean Take Fordham (give the points)?

Yes, think they win by 21+

[Bogus Megapardus]

Yes, think they win by 21+

All things are new for the first game of the season. 21+ might be just a bit optimistic but I have no doubt Fordham will cover this game.

Someone posted this before, but has anyone read/heard anything about St. Francis this season? They clobbered Sacred Heart last season - something Lafayette obviously could not do. The St. Francis roster shows an astonishing 40 "true" freshmen this year, including a 6'6"/302 lb OL.

[Fordhamanhattan]

Sometimes a 300 pounder is just a heavy kid.

[Sader87]

How is Wagner supposed to be this year? About the only team in Week 1 I have no real feel for this year.

[RichH2]

Wagner s/b good but O is an unknown going into season.

[Bogus Megapardus]

How is Wagner supposed to be this year? About the only team in Week 1 I have no real feel for this year.

Same head coach for 34 years - Walt Hameline. God bless 'em.





http://www.wagnerathletics.com/common/controls/image_handler.aspx?thumb_id=15&image_path=/images/2014/7/13/7188_WagnerFootball.JPG

[bonarae]

Wagner @ GEORGETOWN

VMI @ BUCKNELL

St. Francis (PA) @ FORDHAM

HOLY CROSS @ Albany

COLGATE @ Ball State

[Go...gate]

Georgetown 21, Wagner 17

Bucknell 10, VMI 9

Fordham 31, St. Francis (PA) 14

Holy Cross 28, Albany 24

Ball State 44, Colgate 16

[van]

Wagner @ GEORGETOWN, know nothing about Seahawks so going with home team

VMI @ BUCKNELL, VMI bad and Buffs ready to show their stuff

St. Francis (PA) @ FORDHAM, no contest here

HOLY CROSS @ Albany, Crossers have yet to prove themselves

COLGATE @ Ball State, could be ugly

Home teams all the way

[Bogus Megapardus]

Folks who haven't recently read DFW HOYA's superb Georgetown football blog, The Third Rail, might want to check out his recent "Five Questions" entries. Excellent stuff.

http://georgetownfootball.blogspot.com/

[BucBisonAtLarge]

Wagner
Bucknell
Fordham
Albany
Ball State

Looking at the above I don't appear as optimistic about the PL this season as I do feel. I guess I am hedging with the HC and Georgetown games, but I would be happily be proven wrong.

[FordhamFan]

Wagner wins easily
Bucknell wins easily
Holy Cross wins a close one (one score game no doubt in my opinion)
Ball State rolls Colgate.

Fordham wins, but it will be closer than the experts think. I still see a win between 14-20 points, but Fordham is far from 100% ready. OLine is still scary to me. If they win this one by 30+, I will be very very pleasantly surprised.

Oh and freshman RB Chase Edmonds is going to turn heads this year for the Rams. He is spectacular. They stole him from Delaware and Villanova. Kid is so damn good I don't know how he's at Fordham.

[Franks Tanks]

Wagner wins easily
Bucknell wins easily
Holy Cross wins a close one (one score game no doubt in my opinion)
Ball State rolls Colgate.

Fordham wins, but it will be closer than the experts think. I still see a win between 14-20 points, but Fordham is far from 100% ready. OLine is still scary to me. If they win this one by 30+, I will be very very pleasantly surprised.

Oh and freshman RB Chase Edmonds is going to turn heads this year for the Rams. He is spectacular. They stole him from Delaware and Villanova. Kid is so damn good I don't know how he's at Fordham.

Full scholarship, excellent school, the allure of NYC, the ghost of Vince Lombardi and the 7 blocks and Joe Moorhead whispering sweet nothings into his ear. With full rides why wouldn't elite FCS talent attend Patriot League schools? We will always have academic hurdles to overcome, but the scholarship era is going to be tremendous fun.

[Skyhawk71]

Wagner @ Georgetown
VMI @ Bucknell
St. Francis @ Fordham
Holy Cross @ Albany
Colgate @ Ball State

[ColgateTD]

Wagner
Bucknell
Fordham
Holy Cross
Ball - but it could be closer than folks think.

[jayhawkdaddy]

Patriot League Pick 'em - Week 1
Week 1:

Saturday August 30

Wagner @ GEORGETOWN

VMI @ BUCKNELL

St. Francis (PA) @ FORDHAM

HOLY CROSS @ Albany

COLGATE @ Ball State

[citdog]

Wagner
Virginias Marching Idiots
Fordswine
Albany
ball state

[Sandlapper Spike]

Wagner @ GEORGETOWN

VMI @ BUCKNELL

St. Francis (PA) @ FORDHAM

HOLY CROSS @ Albany

COLGATE @ Ball State

[Go...gate]

Folks who haven't recently read DFW HOYA's superb Georgetown football blog, The Third Rail, might want to check out his recent "Five Questions" entries. Excellent stuff.

http://georgetownfootball.blogspot.com/

Agreed! Well done, DFW HOYA!

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Fordswine

xlolx

[Fordham]

he likes us!

[Pards Rule]

Same head coach for 34 years - Walt Hameline. God bless 'em.



http://www.wagnerathletics.com/common/controls/image_handler.aspx?thumb_id=15&image_path=/images/2014/7/13/7188_WagnerFootball.JPG



Former Offensive Coordinator under Bill Russo when he was there. Took the top job when Russo was recruited to the Leopards at the end of 1980 season.

[Pard4Life]

Future schedules less than inspiring... 2015 is awesome, but the next two years, sans Army, is not inspiring. We have CCSU down for a series... and I thought we had one more road game vs. Delaware.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schoo...4-15/misc_non_event/2014fbweb.pdf (http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/lafa/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2014-15/misc_non_event/2014fbweb.pdf)

2015
SEPTEMBER
5 WILLIAM & MARY
12 at Delaware
19 PRINCETON
26 at Wagner
OCTOBER
3 FORDHAM
10 at Georgetown
17 HARVARD
24 at Holy Cross
31 BUCKNELL
NOVEMBER
7 COLGATE
14 Open
21 at Lehigh
2016 SCHEDULE


SEPTEMBER
3 at Central Conn. State
10 DELAWARE
17 at Princeton
24 TBA
OCTOBER
1 HOLY CROSS
8 at Fordham
15 at Army
22 at Bucknell
29 GEORGETOWN
NOVEMBER
5 Open
12 at Colgate
19 LEHIGH

2017 SCHEDULE
SEPTEMBER
2 CENTRAL CONN. STATE
9 TBA
16 Open
23 at Princeton
30 at Holy Cross
OCTOBER
7 FORDHAM
14 at Harvard
21 BUCKNELL
28 at Georgetown
NOVEMBER
4 Open
11 COLGATE
18 at Lehigh

[Sader87]

I think your 2015 and 2016 skeds are very good right now. Can't wait to see the Saders again at Michie.

[Pards Rule]

Future schedules less than inspiring... 2015 is awesome, but the next two years, sans Army, is not inspiring. We have CCSU down for a series... and I thought we had one more road game vs. Delaware.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schoo...4-15/misc_non_event/2014fbweb.pdf (http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/lafa/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2014-15/misc_non_event/2014fbweb.pdf)

2015
SEPTEMBER
5 WILLIAM & MARY
12 at Delaware
19 PRINCETON
26 at Wagner
OCTOBER
3 FORDHAM
10 at Georgetown
17 HARVARD
24 at Holy Cross
31 BUCKNELL
NOVEMBER
7 COLGATE
14 Open
21 at Lehigh
2016 SCHEDULE


SEPTEMBER
3 at Central Conn. State
10 DELAWARE
17 at Princeton
24 TBA
OCTOBER
1 HOLY CROSS
8 at Fordham
15 at Army
22 at Bucknell
29 GEORGETOWN
NOVEMBER
5 Open
12 at Colgate
19 LEHIGH

2017 SCHEDULE
SEPTEMBER
2 CENTRAL CONN. STATE
9 TBA
16 Open
23 at Princeton
30 at Holy Cross
OCTOBER
7 FORDHAM
14 at Harvard
21 BUCKNELL
28 at Georgetown
NOVEMBER
4 Open
11 COLGATE
18 at Lehigh


Damn, I do believe this is the first time Pards and Blue Devils have met since the game Sept. 12, 1981 (Russo's first game as HC at Lafayette and Franks Novak's first game as a sophomore starter) a 51-0 win at Fisher Field in Easton, PA and great start to the Russo era there.

[Pard4Life]

Also worth pointing out: home games... 2015: 6, 2016: 4, 2017: 4

[bison137]

Also worth pointing out: home games... 2015: 6, 2016: 4, 2017: 4



But these schedules are clearly works in progress. When they add the rest of the games for 2016 and 2017, I imagine there will be 5 home games for both.

[Pard4Life]

But these schedules are clearly works in progress. When they add the rest of the games for 2016 and 2017, I imagine there will be 5 home games for both.

Don't underestimate the Lafayette brain trust. Four games is not uncommon.

[TheValleyRaider]

And so it begins...

Saturday August 30
Wagner at Georgetown Wagner Starting with a doozy. I hesitated here, as Wagner isn't exactly the team that won the NEC (and gave us a deserved defeat) in 2012, but then again Georgetown is of course well off from that as well. Offseason upheaval on the coaching staff rarely helps, but the Hoyas' problems run deep at a program level. This, however, is not the thread for that discussion. I must say though, at this point in the season, with so little to go with record-wise, past performance looms large.

VMI at Bucknell Bucknell Patriot League darkhorses. I was a doubter in the Susan revival, but the Bison's near win against Fordham, and the sound thumping they gave us, certainly give me reason to believe. Experience at QB is a big benefit, to go with a usually stout defense. Oh, and it's VMI. I would have taken some of the less-recent Bucknell teams against the Keydets. Perhaps returning to the SoCon will help in the long run (though it didn't the first time), but that is a conversation for the years, not days, ahead.

St. Francis (PA) at Fordham Fordham Credit to the Red Flash, as they have played a variety of big boys in recent seasons (and yes, the Rams count). I'm not going to read too much into last year's contest, though, as Loretto is a long haul by bus. They have to come to the Bronx this year, and the Rams are on a mission for that elusive Patriot League crown. Their window of out-talenting PL opposition will close soon enough (if it hasn't already).

Holy Cross at Albany Holy Cross This was actually kind of a tough one. Two teams that I suspect will be better than their marks a year ago, but by how much? The Danes were not good a year ago, even accounting for the conference upgrade. Year 1 after Bob Ford as well means a program in several kinds of transition. But then there are the Crusaders. Holy Cross, oh Holy Cross. Pujals looks pretty good, and should take a marked step forward join from Freshman to Sophomore year. This team also went 3-9, though Bucknell was one of those 3. Normally I would skew for the home team, but Albany isn't too far from Worcester, and there's no reason not to feel a little League pride in Week 1.

Colgate at Ball State Colgate I'm quietly optimistic about this team. Not League title optimistic, but I think, with health, we'll be much better than in 2013. In fact, I'll even predict we break into the League's top 4 (though over which of the predicted 4 I'm not sure). The transition from Biddle to Hunt has gone as smoothly as one could hope. Hunt is much more interested in publicity for the program, befitting a younger coach (and probably necessary without Biddle's resume), and I like his enthusiasm. Very little of this, I suspect, will have any bearing on what happens in Muncie. Even more than usual (which is most of the time), I have no idea what will happen. Looking forward to enjoying this on on ESPN...3

[blackbeard]

Wagner
Bucknell
Fordham
Holy Cross
Ball State

[carney2]

Are we keeping our own score for the PL pickem's this year?

Yes. The AGS powers that be took down this thread a few years ago when we were "keeping score" because it appeared to them that we were gambling.

[carney2]

How is Wagner supposed to be this year? About the only team in Week 1 I have no real feel for this year.

3-8 last year with a win over Sacred Heart the highlight. Five of the losses were blowouts. Perhaps they have a few transfers from Hogwarts to help them suddenly morph into a juggernaut. But I doubt it.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Times/Streaming Information

12:00 PM Wagner/G'Town (CBS ULive)
2:00 PM Colgate/Ball State (ESPN3)
6:00 PM Holy Cross/Albany (ESPN3)
6:00 PM VMI/Bucknell (Patriot League Network)
6:00 PM SFPA/Fordham (Patriot League Network)

Other games of interest:

12:00 PM Delaware/Pitt (ESPN3)
1:00 PM Del State/Monmouth (Big South Sports)
3:30 PM JMU/Maryland (Big 10 Network)
4:00 PM William & Mary/Virginia Tech (ESPN News)
6:00 PM Marist/Sacred Heart (NEC Front Row)
6:00 PM Morgan State/Eastern Michigan (ESPN3)
7:00 PM UNH/Toledo (ESPN3)

Thursday at 7:00PM Eastern Kentucky/Robert Morris (NEC Front Row)
Thursday at 7:00PM Bryant/Stony Brook (CBS ULive)

Friday at 7:30PM Villanova/Syracuse (ESPN3)

I'll update this with others as I find them (future PL opponents)

[crusader11]

Still no line for the Albany v. Holy Cross game. What gives?

[DFW HOYA]

Times/Streaming Information

12:00 PM Wagner/G'Town (CBS ULive)

CBS ULive appears to be the one camera feed from high atop Multi Sport Field, also known as the box-shaped structures atop the 2005 temporary bleachers (now in their 10th season)

http://image2.stadiumjourney.com/images/stadiums/1301_Georgetown_Hoyas_Game_Action_at_Multi-Sport_Field.jpg

[Bogus Megapardus]

CBS ULive appears to be the one camera feed from high atop Multi Sport Field, also known as the box-shaped structures atop the 2005 temporary bleachers (now in their 10th season)




And here I thought it was just a freshman who borrowed somebody's iPhone (until the battery ran out). As Lafayette's play-by-play guy, Gary Laubach, once quipped (the time he actually was allowed in) - "they stuck us up on the roof."

Oh and DFW . . . have you checked out the renderings for the renovation of Zable at William & Mary? Just sayin' . . . xcoolx

[DFW HOYA]

Oh and DFW . . . have you checked out the renderings for the renovation of Zable at William & Mary? Just sayin' . . . xcoolx

Yes, but I prefer to look at this drawing and remember the seat license I bought ten years ago, right there along the 40. And no one's on the roof.

http://www.hoyafootball.com/images/stadia/msf_proposed_2c.jpg

[Bogus Megapardus]

Yes, but I prefer to look at this drawing and remember the seat license I bought ten years ago, right there along the 40. And no one's on the roof.

http://www.hoyafootball.com/images/stadia/msf_proposed_2c.jpg


That seat license (with compounded interest), combined with all you do to promote Hoya football in the vernacular, ought to entitle you to your own lux box up there when they finally get it built!

BTW - DC Metro "Pink Line" stop inside the facility? That would work nicely.

[aceinthehole]

Damn, I do believe this is the first time Pards and Blue Devils have met since the game Sept. 12, 1981 (Russo's first game as HC at Lafayette and Franks Novak's first game as a sophomore starter) a 51-0 win at Fisher Field in Easton, PA and great start to the Russo era there.

Yes, it is. Lafayette will make their first ever trip to New Britain in 2016 to face the Blue Devils.

Don't forget the all-time series between the schools is even xthumbsupx

Sep. 13, 1980 - Central Conn. St. 14, Lafayette 3 (Easton, Pa.)
Sep. 12, 1981 - Central Conn. St. 0, Lafayette 51 (Easton, Pa.)

[Bogus Megapardus]

Yes, it is. Lafayette will make their first ever trip to New Britain in 2016 to face the Blue Devils.

Don't forget the all-time series between the schools is even xthumbsupx

Sep. 13, 1980 - Central Conn. St. 14, Lafayette 3 (Easton, Pa.)
Sep. 12, 1981 - Central Conn. St. 0, Lafayette 51 (Easton, Pa.)

So we'll play the rubber match it seems. In the meantime, aceinthehole, any insight on this season's Sacred Heart or Robert Morris teams would be appreciated! Especially Robert Morris about which I know next to nothing.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Yes, it is. Lafayette will make their first ever trip to New Britain in 2016 to face the Blue Devils.

Don't forget the all-time series between the schools is even xthumbsupx

Sep. 13, 1980 - Central Conn. St. 14, Lafayette 3 (Easton, Pa.)
Sep. 12, 1981 - Central Conn. St. 0, Lafayette 51 (Easton, Pa.)

CCSU was D2 when they beat the 'Pards in 1980.

The '81 LC team, by record, is the best in the last 70+ years. They certainly got some payback on the Blue Devils........

[Bogus Megapardus]

CCSU was D2 when they beat the 'Pards in 1980.

The '81 LC team, by record, is the best in the last 70+ years. They certainly got some payback on the Blue Devils........

1980 was a bad year for your ever humble and contrite Pards - Neil Putnam's last, in fact. Maine and UNH crushed us and Lehigh shut us out (as did Colgate and Bucknell). We even lost to Columbia that year (though we beat Penn). Bill Russo came in the next year and turned things around considerably.

To his credit, though, Putnam was the last Pard HC to beat then-conference member Rutgers.

[aceinthehole]

So we'll play the rubber match it seems. In the meantime, aceinthehole, any insight on this season's Sacred Heart or Robert Morris teams would be appreciated! Especially Robert Morris about which I know next to nothing.

SHU should be a bear to deal with. Lots of returning player - the QB and RB are as good as anything in FCS. Both Payton/AA candidates. Legit chance to win the NEC and a first round playoff game. That should be a very tough game for the Leopards on the road.

RMU is an enigma. Had been losing steam under Joe, the new guy should shake things up. Without an answer at QB they could struggle. I expect Lafayette to win, if you are expected to have a good year.

Here's an article about RMU:
http://triblive.com/sports/college/district/6663063-74/banaszak-coach-team#axzz3BY5o89Rf

[Bogus Megapardus]

if you are expected to have a good year.

Well, we'll have a couple of scholarship players starting the season for the first time ever. Which is nice.

I just don't want a repeat of the wholesale second half failuring we witnessed at Robert Morris a couple of seasons ago. That game still occupies a pit in my stomach. Last years' opening loss to Sacred Heart I can handle - they were good. Robert Morris? Not so much.

[aceinthehole]

CCSU was D2 when they beat the 'Pards in 1980.

The '81 LC team, by record, is the best in the last 70+ years. They certainly got some payback on the Blue Devils........

Yep. CCSU was a founding member of D-II and played in that classification from its inception until the "Dayton rule" (1973-92).

As a D-II program, CCSU played a few I-AA teams (UConn, Maine, New Hampshire, Northeastern, Lafayette, and Villanova), but they only had 2 wins:

Nov. 10, 1979 - Central Conn. St. 35, Northeastern 21 (New Britain, Conn.)
Sep. 13, 1980 - Central Conn. St. 14, Lafayette 3 (Easton, Pa.)

[Bogus Megapardus]

Sep. 13, 1980 - Central Conn. St. 14, Lafayette 3 (Easton, Pa.)

Yep. It was that bad.

[carney2]

So we'll play the rubber match it seems. In the meantime, aceinthehole, any insight on this season's Sacred Heart or Robert Morris teams would be appreciated! Especially Robert Morris about which I know next to nothing.

Well, Bogie, you know about SHU:

- Defending NEC champ and picked to repeat.
- Returning 18 starters, including 2 preseason All-Americans

As for RMU:

- John Banaszak replaces a legend, Joe Walton, as head coach. Walton is the only coach RMU has ever had, but if truth be known Walton was a cardboard cutout the last few years, and Banaszak has been the coach for a while now. Banaszak is a Pittsburgh Steelers alumnus.
- 5-6 last year with no notable wins and a couple of blowout losses.
- Picked for third this year in the NEC behind SHU and Duquesne.
- They open with Eastern Kentucky at home and then go on the road for 3 (North Dakota [NOT State], Lafayette and Dayton). 1-3 thru this stretch seems to be the best they can hope for.
- They return 20 letter winners, including 10 starters - 5 on offense, 3 on defense, and 2 special teamers. The 5 returning offensive starters include only 1 skill position player, a WR.
- The Colonials will be hard pressed to match last year's 5-6 record.

[DFW HOYA]

- They return 20 letter winners, including 10 starters - 5 on offense, 3 on defense, and 2 special teamers. The 5 returning offensive starters include only 1 skill position player, a WR.

Only 20 returning lettermen?

[Lehigh'98]

Holy Cross - 38 Albany - 28
Wagner - 24 Georgetown - 17
Fordham - 48 St. Francis - 20
Ball St. - 47 Colgate - 28
Bucknell - 31 VMI - 7

[carney2]

Only 20 returning lettermen?

Don't do that. You forced me to triple check. 20 is the number.

[JimboCBA72]

Wagner wins easily
Bucknell wins easily
Holy Cross wins a close one (one score game no doubt in my opinion)
Ball State rolls Colgate.

Fordham wins, but it will be closer than the experts think. I still see a win between 14-20 points, but Fordham is far from 100% ready. OLine is still scary to me. If they win this one by 30+, I will be very very pleasantly surprised.

Oh and freshman RB Chase Edmonds is going to turn heads this year for the Rams. He is spectacular. They stole him from Delaware and Villanova. Kid is so damn good I don't know how he's at Fordham.

We have 3 returning starters on the OL and a fourth who has seen quite a bit of playing time over the past 2 years (Stolte). Plus, I think we have one of the better OL coaches in the biz. I for one am not too worried about this unit.

[Leopard Loyalist]

Wagner @ GEORGETOWN

VMI @ BUCKNELL

St. Francis (PA) @ FORDHAM

HOLY CROSS @ Albany

COLGATE @ Ball State

[Go...gate]

Yes, but I prefer to look at this drawing and remember the seat license I bought ten years ago, right there along the 40. And no one's on the roof.

http://www.hoyafootball.com/images/stadia/msf_proposed_2c.jpg

Hope that the Hoyas get that one of these days. Really nice ballpark!

[carney2]

Lafayette has suspended 3 players for "a violation of athletic department policy."

Junior PK Ryan Gralish is suspended for 4 games.

Senior WR Mike Duncan is suspended for 2 games.

Sophomore DB Ben Carroll is suspended for 2 games.

Gralish is a key to Lafayette success as he handles FGs, PATs and kickoff duties. Duncan is in the WR mix, but figured to be one of the first men out once the heralded freshmen begin to contribute. Carroll did not play in any 2013 games.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Lafayette has suspended 3 players for "a violation of athletic department policy."

Junior PK Ryan Gralish is suspended for 4 games.

Senior WR Mike Duncan is suspended for 2 games.

Sophomore DB Ben Carroll is suspended for 2 games.

Gralish is a key to Lafayette success as he handles FGs, PATs and kickoff duties. Duncan is in the WR mix, but figured to be one of the first men out once the heralded freshmen begin to contribute. Carroll did not play in any 2013 games.

I agree, Gralish is the big one, though he'll be back in plenty of time for the league schedule. Not clear as to why the punishment, though.

At least nobody is getting kicked off the team.

[carney2]

Not clear as to why the punishment, though.

At least nobody is getting kicked off the team.

Word is that the infractions occurred last year (spring semester?), and you almost never get the "why" of these things.

[Southsider]

Gee, and we were always led to believe all Pards are squeaky cleanxsmiley_wix

[carney2]

Gee, and we were always led to believe all Pards are squeaky cleanxsmiley_wix

And you have been led in the right direction. This minor disciplinary action is to be distinguished from another Patriot League school where the star running back was caught breaking and entering into female dorm rooms to steal cash (actually spent some time in the local slammer), and received a one game suspension from a meaningless OOC opener. That coach is now gone - and good riddance.

[Pard4Life]

Word is that the infractions occurred last year (spring semester?), and you almost never get the "why" of these things.

Athletic Department policy is very mysterious... it's no secret that Bruce tightened the reigns a year or two ago, some felt a little too stringently. What's no big deal to other students is a big deal in athletics.. "representing the Lafayette brand" as Bruce said at the time... my guess is they were busted for having beer in their room.

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Gee, and we were always led to believe all Pards are squeaky cleanxsmiley_wix

When your color is not Brown, it's not too hard...

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Athletic Department policy is very mysterious... it's no secret that Bruce tightened the reigns a year or two ago, some felt a little too stringently. What's no big deal to other students is a big deal in athletics.. "representing the Lafayette brand" as Bruce said at the time... my guess is they were busted for having beer in their room.

If that's true, the penalty is appropriate. I've moved on. :)

[Pard4Life]

Wagner 24, Georgetown 17

Bucknell 28, VMI 14

Fordham 49, St. Francis (PA) 10

Albany 28, Holy Cross 27

Ball State 45, Colgate 21

[Bill]

Ball State 45, Colgate 21

Is there an O/U on this one? Everyone here seems to be picking some serious scores....

[Pard4Life]

Is there an O/U on this one? Everyone here seems to be picking some serious scores....

Officially, I don't think so... the FBS-FCS games do not have lines... I was being kind of generous with Colgate though. They may only score 10.

[crusader11]

Officially, I don't think so... the FBS-FCS games do not have lines... I was being kind of generous with Colgate though. They may only score 10.

They have lines. Colgate is +25.5.

[Bill]

Crusader

Can you post a link for us? Two of the Vegas sites I saw did not have lines as of 3:00 today. Was more interested in the O/U, though.

Disclaimer: This post is for entertainment purposes only. ;)

[crusader11]

http://www.5dimes.eu/livelines/livelines.aspx#al_30

Click on "College" on the left side of the page.

No O/U for the Colgate game.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

I did not realize that former Lehigh DC Dave Kotulski is now the DC at Vanderbilt. His debut did not go well as Temple is currently winning 37-7! xhypedx

[Go...gate]

And you have been led in the right direction. This minor disciplinary action is to be distinguished from another Patriot League school where the star running back was caught breaking and entering into female dorm rooms to steal cash (actually spent some time in the local slammer), and received a one game suspension from a meaningless OOC opener. That coach is now gone - and good riddance.

You still hung up about the Jordan Scott thing? I actually agree that he should have been kicked out of school (and Colgate took a lot of heat about the situation), but it is like last year's snow. Let it go. I'm sure some kids at Lafayette made their share of really stupid and illegal mistakes from time to time and did not get expelled either.

[Go...gate]

I did not realize that former Lehigh DC Dave Kotulski is now the DC at Vanderbilt. His debut did not go well as Temple is currently winning 37-7! xhypedx

Congrats, TU owl. Nice to see Temple having their way with an SEC club.

[carney2]

You still hung up about the Jordan Scott thing?

No, I'm "hung up" about the Dick Biddle thing and the Colgate sense of priorities thing. I would expect that the latter is still in force.

[Gater]

I'm surprised more wasn't done with Scott. There were certainly a lot of Colgate people who thought he should be expelled. From all reports, he apparently knocked on an unlocked door, went in and stole $20 or $40 and admitted to it when he was caught (not sure if the other player with him did). I did not know him but I always heard he was a good kid. I am not condoning it in the least. Maybe Biddle made a mistake by not suspending him more-- not knowing the facts, it always seemed like he did to me. But I 100% believe Biddle to be the type of man who would make decisions based on what he thought was right more than what he thought was right for his football team.

[Gater]

Great win for Temple--beating an SEC team by 30. Scored 37 points with no drives longer than 40 yards. Wonder if that has ever happened before.

[Sader87]

Copy and paste from our board:

OK cranking up the trusty, old HAL 9000...after a few sparks and pops after a 9 month rest, he's a rarin' to go for the 2014 campaign:

Wagner 24 GTown 16 HAL wanted to go with the PL school in this tilt but GTown's lack of overall talent (or so it seems) has him going with the Seahawks in this one.

Ball St 38 Colgate 16 HAL applauds the Red Raiders for continuing to go out and punch above their weight-class....unfortunately they aren't quite ready for prime-time just yet.

Bucknell 10 VMI 7 HAL wasn't quite sure if this was a football game or a reenactment of a Civil War battle in Central Pennsylvania....either way, it's going to be an ugly affair.

Fordham 31 St Francis(PA) 10 The Red Flashes are no match for the team HAL believes to be the class of the PL right now.

Albany 37 HC 34 HAL is excited about this year's Crusaders, he just thinks they are still a little too young/inexperienced to win a road openah. He expects a very high-scoring, back and forth affair but gives the nod to the Great Danes who get their 1st win evah at Bob Ford Field.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Wagner 24 GTown 16 HAL wanted to go with the PL school in this tilt but GTown's lack of overall talent (or so it seems) has him going with the Seawolves in this one.

HAL 9000 needs a software upgrade.

[Sader87]

lol.....it takes him awhile to get up and running.....I rushed him a little this morning....fixed, thanks xthumbsupx

[bison137]

Bucknell 10 VMI 7 HAL wasn't quite sure if this was a football game or a reenactment of a Civil War battle in Central Pennsylvania....either way, it's going to be an ugly affair.

.


I doubt it will be ugly, but I doubt VMI will be held to 7 points. BU is missing both starting CB's from the spring and currently has no depth at that position. I'd guess something like 24-14 or 26-17.

My picks:

Wagner
Ball State
Bucknell
Fordham
Albany

[carney2]

I 100% believe Biddle to be the type of man who would make decisions based on what he thought was right more than what he thought was right for his football team.

Thank you for your totally objective comment. Others of this sort:

Ohio State on Woody Hayes:

"You're a fine man, Woody, and we love you because you win. Keep punching."

Indiana on Bobby Knight:

"Throw a chair;
Scream and glare.
You commit no deadly sin.
We love you, Bob because you win."

[Gater]

Not sure how objective you are about this, Carney2. It was seven years ago and you're still bringing it up means there is probably little I can offer to change your opinion. I thought the suspension was too light seven years ago but I didn't know the facts. I have met Dick Biddle a few times and am friends with people who work at Colgate and have never heard a bad thing about the guy--personally or professionally. I also heard the Scott was a good kid. I don't know the truth. I know a fraction of the story. As do you. If you're ok with coming to an ironclad conclusion about a man knowing what you know, so be it.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

My full set of predictions:

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2014/08/2014-week-0-viewing-guide-and-fearless.html

The big "surprise", I'd say, is my prediction of Georgetown beating Wagner.

[Pard4Life]

Not sure how objective you are about this, Carney2. It was seven years ago and you're still bringing it up means there is probably little I can offer to change your opinion. I thought the suspension was too light seven years ago but I didn't know the facts. I have met Dick Biddle a few times and am friends with people who work at Colgate and have never heard a bad thing about the guy--personally or professionally. I also heard the Scott was a good kid. I don't know the truth. I know a fraction of the story. As do you. If you're ok with coming to an ironclad conclusion about a man knowing what you know, so be it.

I've heard stories about him being an animal at Duke.

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My full set of predictions:

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2014/08/2014-week-0-viewing-guide-and-fearless.html

The big "surprise", I'd say, is my prediction of Georgetown beating Wagner.

No.

Those who are fearless are those who get slaughtered...

[Pard4Life]

Fun fact: Georgetown is seeking its 500th program win.

[CrusaderBob]

Wagner
Ball St.
Bucknell
Fordham
Holy Cross

[Fordhamanhattan]

Former Fordham all-American punter/kicker Patrick Murray made the Tampa Bay Bucs!

[Pard4Life]

So, over under 20 touchdowns for Georgetown this year?

[Gate83]

They better get a bunch the next few weeks for +20. Even Colgate's D looked improved today!

[carney2]

So, over under 20 touchdowns for Georgetown this year?

That's 2 per game from here. That's a big mountain to climb for this team.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Another coulda shoulda for Holy Cross. Albany wins on a 92 yard fumble return after Guild lost ball while losing his helmet. It appeared he was knocked out and had to be taken off the field on a stretcher. Hopefully he's ok. HC could have iced the game a few minutes earlier when they missed a chip shot FG...

Neither team looked great, two very even teams coming off of bad years....

[Go...gate]

Thank you for your totally objective comment. Others of this sort:

Ohio State on Woody Hayes:

"You're a fine man, Woody, and we love you because you win. Keep punching."

Indiana on Bobby Knight:

"Throw a chair;
Scream and glare.
You commit no deadly sin.
We love you, Bob because you win."

And what, pray tell, makes YOU objective?

[Go...gate]

No, I'm "hung up" about the Dick Biddle thing and the Colgate sense of priorities thing. I would expect that the latter is still in force.

Respectfully, I have no doubt Lafayette has had its share of problems with varsity athletes, just as other FCS schools.

And FWIW, Scott definitely paid a price. Colgate kept it quiet, as I am sure the Leopards do in comparable circumstances.

[RichH2]

Get over yourself. I have no doubt Lafayette has had their share of problems, just as the other PL and Ivy schools, Delaware and others.

And FWIW, Scott definitely paid a price. Colgate kept it quiet, as I am sure the virginal Leopards do in comparable circumstances.
Probably true as to Scott but obvious that Gate protected its football team first and foremost. No matter how you rationalize it,the punishment was carefully steered away from football program.
None of this has any relevance today. Can we get back to this weeks games.

[Go...gate]

I'm all for that, RichH2. But I'm not the one who started it.

Moreover, I have no intention of allowing Colgate to be defecated upon without responding.

[carney2]

I'm all for that, RichH2. But I'm not the one who started it.

Moreover, I have no intention of allowing Colgate to be defecated upon without responding.

I got carried away. Apologies to all.

[Go...gate]

Apology accepted, Carney2.

Best of luck to the Leopards this season.

[Gater]

Thanks, Carney2. Good luck to you guys the rest of the way.

[Pard4Life]

I'm all for that, RichH2. But I'm not the one who started it.

Moreover, I have no intention of allowing Colgate to be defecated upon without responding.

Save your defecating for the Brown Clowns. I have no love for Colgate (and I even go out of my way to buy Crest), but always save your venemon for the Saucon Swine.

[Pard4Life]

Another coulda shoulda for Holy Cross. Albany wins on a 92 yard fumble return after Guild lost ball while losing his helmet. It appeared he was knocked out and had to be taken off the field on a stretcher. Hopefully he's ok. HC could have iced the game a few minutes earlier when they missed a chip shot FG...

Neither team looked great, two very even teams coming off of bad years....

Wow! I thought it was a new season? Guess not for Holy Cross... didn't they have a few bizarre losses the past two years?

[Bogus Megapardus]

Save your venom for the Saucon Swine.

A manifold rebuke of those Sheet Stains of Silliness always is appropriate . . . no matter what the topic or by whom said chastisement is delivered.

Carry on, please. xcoolx