What's You're Views On Scheduling Cream Puffs Just To Get Home Game?

[underdawg]

SIU just picked up NAIA home game of Taylor University to have 12th game. I noticed NDSU has Incarnate Word College and SDSU plays UW-Oskosh--our fans aren't too happy but we needed a practice game before starting in Sept. with Eastern Illinois.

[buffalobill]

SIU just picked up NAIA home game of Taylor University to have 12th game. I noticed NDSU has Incarnate Word College and SDSU plays UW-Oskosh--our fans aren't too happy but we needed a practice game before starting in Sept. with Eastern Illinois.
At least Incarnate Word is FCS and in an FCS conference for 2014(Southland Conference)

[dewey]

I understand the need to have home games for revenue and to keep the fans happy but playing an NAIA team. I could see a D2 as they at least count toward the playoff win total but NAIA's don't, right? You should be able to find a D2 school out there that will take the money.

Also there is a giant different between Incarnate Word and NAIA schools. IC is at least a FCS school.

Dewey

[IBleedYellow]

I understand the need to have home games for revenue and to keep the fans happy but playing an NAIA team. I could see a D2 as they at least count toward the playoff win total but NAIA's don't, right? You should be able to find a D2 school out there that will take the money.

Also there is a giant different between Incarnate Word and NAIA schools. IC is at least a FCS school.

Dewey


"FCS School"

[Twentysix]

If the cream puff is a fresh FCS face I'm all for one a season. Don't want to over indulge and get to fat.

[dewey]

If the cream puff is a fresh FCS face I'm all for one a season. Don't want to over indulge and get to fat.

Agreed. like the current schedule plan for NDSU. 1 winnable FBS game in our recruiting footprint, one very winnable FCS team and a good FCS team. Then on years with 12 games add another FCS school on the road in order to get the home game in the future.

Dewey

[Bisonoline]

I hate playing tomato cans. The only thing good is you are hitting somebody other than fellow teammates. Cream puffs who dont challenge you dont make you better.

[BisonFan02]

Cupcakes are tasty...nothing like a team out of the SWAC, Pioneer etc to start the year.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

One FCS cupcake a year is fine.

I'm not a fan of lower division games....

[darell1976]

I understand the need to have home games for revenue and to keep the fans happy but playing an NAIA team. I could see a D2 as they at least count toward the playoff win total but NAIA's don't, right? You should be able to find a D2 school out there that will take the money.

Also there is a giant different between Incarnate Word and NAIA schools. IC is at least a FCS school.

Dewey

I agree on at least getting a DII team since they do count where NAIA doesn't.

[JayJ79]

11 games and a lower division home game is better than 11 games only.
sure, it's better to get a division I game for that 12th game, but that doesn't always work out, especially if you are scrambling to replace someone that crapped out of a previously arranged contract late

[DFW HOYA]

Exhibit A, week one:

http://www.davidsonwildcats.com/schedule.aspx?path=football

[underdawg]

Er, I think IW is a transition team, they played Houston Baptist, McMurry State, Abeline Christian, Angelo State and Langston in 2013--all non-FCS teams so don't brag too much Bison fansxlolx

[bluehenbillk]

Delaware has 3 Cream puffs - DelState, Colgate & Sacred Heart, ugh...

I'll skip one if not two of those beatings.

[superman7515]

Er, I think IW is a transition team, they played Houston Baptist, McMurry State, Abeline Christian, Angelo State and Langston in 2013--all non-FCS teams so don't brag too much Bison fansxlolx

Houston Baptist and Abilene Christian are both FCS teams... Seriously, do you even know what sport we're talking about here?

[bonarae]

Exhibit A, week one:

http://www.davidsonwildcats.com/schedule.aspx?path=football

Uh oh. The first game is against a USCAA opponent? xchinscratchx Then a D3. They couldn't want to lose... xsmashx

[bonarae]

OK, as for Ivies NOT scheduling any lower division teams... I am divided on that. First, I am not quite sure on whether it's an Ivies-only issue or a general non-scholly FCS one, but it seems that they're not bent on humiliating themselves by scheduling the likes of the Bison, the Griz, etc. xsmhx

Second, our historical opponents are any of the following: out of reach because they are in the Power 5 FBS or in the "rest" of the FBS; gone from the football world or are playing D3 football and D3 teams are not encouraged to play up.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

There is a big difference also in your home stadium. The Fargodome is a guaranteed sellout for every game, at least for now. That is a lot of money.

If you can't sell out your stadium, why try so hard to have a home game?

[kdinva]

Houston Baptist and Abilene Christian are both FCS teams... Seriously, do you even know what sport we're talking about here?

xslapfightx

[Mattymc727]

There is a big difference also in your home stadium. The Fargodome is a guaranteed sellout for every game, at least for now. That is a lot of money.

If you can't sell out your stadium, why try so hard to have a home game?

UNH has yet to try and schedule a 12th game. UNH doesnt make enough at home games to try and bring in a lower division team for the sake of a warm up and money maker.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

UNH has yet to try and schedule a 12th game. UNH doesnt make enough at home games to try and bring in a lower division team for the sake of a warm up and money maker.

Ding! There's the difference. Unless it's a counter or you can make a profit, it's a waste of time and money to get a cream puff team in.

[IBleedYellow]

Er, I think IW is a transition team, they played Houston Baptist, McMurry State, Abeline Christian, Angelo State and Langston in 2013--all non-FCS teams so don't brag too much Bison fansxlolx


Do you see anyone bragging? I sure don't.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Do you see anyone bragging? I sure don't.

Nope. Not bragging but all cream puffs are not equal.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I like having one 'cupcake' every year for an OCC game. GT has done a good job with the FB schedules at NDSU.

[IBleedYellow]

I like having one 'cupcake' every year for an OCC game. GT has done a good job with the FB schedules at NDSU.


I see what you did there. xthumbsupx

[Catatonic]

Not to mention that McMurry is not McMurry "state" and" Abeline" is Abilene.
Houston Baptist and Abilene Christian are both FCS teams... Seriously, do you even know what sport we're talking about here?

[Catatonic]

Is there any difference in FBS schools playing FCS "cupcakes" and FCS schools playing "cupcake" d2 schools ?

[GAD]

Is there any difference in FBS schools playing FCS "cupcakes" and FCS schools playing "cupcake" d2 schools ?
No! However some people will pat you on the back for scheduling and FBS school but, want to slap your wrist for playing a team from a lower division.
Some times you just have to take the game you can get

[underdawg]

Incarnate word: They Texas College who plays Belhaven, Hardin Simmons, Oklahoma Panhandle State and Houston Baptist.
They played Langston who played Southwestern Assemblies of God, Ok Panhandle state, Ok baptist, Bacone ect, ect--oh now I remember those teams--the last ones to be left out of the Playoffs weren't they?xlolx

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Incarnate word: They Texas College who plays Belhaven, Hardin Simmons, Oklahoma Panhandle State and Houston Baptist.
They played Langston who played Southwestern Assemblies of God, Ok Panhandle state, Ok baptist, Bacone ect, ect--oh now I remember those teams--the last ones to be left out of the Playoffs weren't they?xlolx

But will they put up more of a fight against the Bison than SIU?


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[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Incarnate word: They Texas College who plays Belhaven, Hardin Simmons, Oklahoma Panhandle State and Houston Baptist.
They played Langston who played Southwestern Assemblies of God, Ok Panhandle state, Ok baptist, Bacone ect, ect--oh now I remember those teams--the last ones to be left out of the Playoffs weren't they?xlolx


They are still FCS....xrulesx

[grayghost06]

Not often you see Taylor U. and Purdue on the same football schedule. Guessing someone cancelled late and put them in a bind. DII allows for 36 schollies as compared to 24 for NAIA. I don't think schools should be playing down two levels. If they simply didn't play Taylor, they still would have had 5 home & away games against FCS with the 11th against a BCS team. An intersquad scrimmage would likely be more beneficial than an NAIA game.

[centennial]

Not often you see Taylor U. and Purdue on the same football schedule. Guessing someone cancelled late and put them in a bind. DII allows for 36 schollies as compared to 24 for NAIA. I don't think schools should be playing down two levels. If they simply didn't play Taylor, they still would have had 5 home & away games against FCS with the 11th against a BCS team. An intersquad scrimmage would likely be more beneficial than an NAIA game.
Extra home games help finances a lot unless you have poor attendance. And D2 being partial counters increase the chance of making playoffs.

[grayghost06]

Extra home games help finances a lot unless you have poor attendance. And D2 being partial counters increase the chance of making playoffs.

Yeah, but does an NAIA team like Taylor help or hurt in the eyes of selection committee?

[bonarae]

Is there any difference in FBS schools playing FCS "cupcakes" and FCS schools playing "cupcake" d2 schools ?

Not much. Even "cupcake" D2s and even D3s could get a win against FCS teams (see SWAC and PFL vs. them the past few seasons). The only difference is the margin of the final score...


Yeah, but does an NAIA team like Taylor help or hurt in the eyes of selection committee?

Hurt, I believe. They only count NCAA wins (up to D2 I think).

[Bogus Megapardus]

Delaware has 3 Cream puffs - Del State, Colgate & Sacred Heart, ugh...

I'll skip one if not two of those beatings.

Aside from the notion that scheduling Colgate ought to be considered an abject embarrassment to the Blue Hen faithful, there is the corollary thought that you might be careful what you wish for.

Cream puffery rarely has been a Colgate attribute. You'll see.

[Catatonic]

Cupcakes are very" in" these days. Cream puffs, not so much. Given the choice I would rather schedule a cup cake than a creampuff. A trendy not so good team >a not trendy not so good team.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Cupcakes are very "in" these days. Creampuffs, not so much. Given the choice I would rather schedule a cupcake than a creampuff.

I prefer Tasty Cakes over Hostess, given a choice. Plus, Tasty Cakes have a shelf life of something like a decade. Even more if you freeze them.

It's a shame that Tasty Cakes are available only in the northeast. xcoolx

[BisonFan02]

I prefer Tasty Cakes over Hostess, given a choice. Plus, Tasty Cakes have a shelf life of something like a decade. Even more if you freeze them.

It's a shame that Tasty Cakes are available only in the northeast. xcoolx

Tasty Cakes have a shelf life?....or are they just required to put some arbitrary number on the case? xlolx

[mmiller_34]

I like games against the Pioneer League. Hate this D-III game. Oh well, I guess.

[mmiller_34]

Tasty Cakes

Such good Tasty Cakes.

[BisonFan02]

Speaking of trying to schedule "one and done" cupcakes....(let's liven this up a bit)

http://www.grandforksherald.com/content/college-football-und-ndsu-rivalry-wont-be-returning-anytime-soon

[darell1976]

Speaking of trying to schedule "one and done" cupcakes....(let's liven this up a bit)

http://www.grandforksherald.com/content/college-football-und-ndsu-rivalry-wont-be-returning-anytime-soon

UND would have 3 road OOC games in 2017 if Faison went along with what Taylor countered. What's wrong with a home and home? Seems odd that UND can have home and homes with South Dakota St, South Dakota, Montana but not NDSU. I say screw it, let the schools schedule who they want. UND only needs to fill 3 spots in the next 4 seasons.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

UND would have 3 road OOC games in 2017 if Faison went along with what Taylor countered. What's wrong with a home and home? Seems odd that UND can have home and homes with South Dakota St, South Dakota, Montana but not NDSU. I say screw it, let the schools schedule who they want. UND only needs to fill 3 spots in the next 4 seasons.

I have now come around. That was a good deal.

[Bisonator]

Speaking of trying to schedule "one and done" cupcakes....(let's liven this up a bit)

http://www.grandforksherald.com/content/college-football-und-ndsu-rivalry-wont-be-returning-anytime-soon

Too bad Faison couldn't keep his trap shut while they were negotiating the original deal. Funny how he doesn't talk to the media when negotiating contracts with other schools but when it's NDSU he has to open his pie hole. It's no wonder this game will never happen. But yeah it's NDSU and Gene's fault....

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Too bad Faison couldn't keep his trap shut while they were negotiating the original deal. Funny how he doesn't talk to the media when negotiating contracts with other schools but when it's NDSU he has to open his pie hole. It's no wonder this game will never happen. But yeah it's NDSU and Gene's fault....

I grow tired of the hockey school and their fans. I love the troll going on from GT. It pleases me.

http://www.optimum7.com/internet-marketing/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/statefarm-fisherman-300x300.jpg

"Oh you want that game? Almost had it that time!"

[clenz]

Yeah, but does an NAIA team like Taylor help or hurt in the eyes of selection committee?
For an MVFC team it won't make a bit of difference if it's a D3 or a win over a B12...

[aces1180]

Speaking of trying to schedule "one and done" cupcakes....(let's liven this up a bit)

http://www.grandforksherald.com/content/college-football-und-ndsu-rivalry-wont-be-returning-anytime-soon

I think $175K per game for two dates in Fargo is more than fair.

Contracts were not signed, only a tentative agreement being agreed upon. Business deals are constantly changing and if Faison doesn't like it, tough.

I'm proud of Gene for doing what is best for NDSU.

[McNeese72]

McNeese has Ark. Tech on the schedule. And we only have 11 games. We tried to get a game with one of the FCS startups for the first weekend of the season before we head for Lincoln, NE the second weekend. But, the rumor has it, they finally came back and told us that they weren't ready to play us. So, now we have an open date for the first weekend of the season, which sucks.

[Go Green]

OK, as for Ivies NOT scheduling any lower division teams... I am divided on that. First, I am not quite sure on whether it's an Ivies-only issue or a general non-scholly FCS one, but it seems that they're not bent on humiliating themselves by scheduling the likes of the Bison, the Griz, etc. xsmhx


The Ivies have played D-II and D-III teams in the past.

We even lost one of those games. (Hint--the game was in the 1980s and the Ivy team began with a "C.")

[bluehenbillk]

Aside from the notion that scheduling Colgate ought to be considered an abject embarrassment to the Blue Hen faithful, there is the corollary thought that you might be careful what you wish for.

Cream puffery rarely has been a Colgate attribute. You'll see.

Hmph, last time we played them wasn't in Newark, they had a Payton Award winner, & UD won 40-0 only because we stopped playing half way through the 3Q.....xnodx

[SUPharmacist]

UND would have 3 road OOC games in 2017 if Faison went along with what Taylor countered. What's wrong with a home and home? Seems odd that UND can have home and homes with South Dakota St, South Dakota, Montana but not NDSU. I say screw it, let the schools schedule who they want. UND only needs to fill 3 spots in the next 4 seasons.

Unless one of the ADs leaves, I don't think it will resume until the teams meet in the playoffs. At which point it will end up being a thumping one way or another which will lead to a resumption of the series (winners remember the joy of gloating, losers want revenge, both more willing to come to the table).

As far as the cream puff question, I don't like it. I prefer more quality games even away, but finances are always the determining factor.

[BEAR]

This is how you schedule a non-conference for 12 games. Sure helps the S.O.S.



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Lubbock, Texas



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9/6/2014

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Missouri State University (http://www.missouristatebears.com/)

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I am rather disappointed Conque didn't schedule McNeese..of course I heard it was because we had to rotate the newcomers to the SLC.

[clenz]

This is how you schedule a non-conference for 12 games. Sure helps the S.O.S.



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I am rather disappointed Conque didn't schedule McNeese..of course I heard it was because we had to rotate the newcomers to the SLC.
Better hope you finish top 2 in your conference....even if you win all of those...to get an at large bid

[Bisonator]

Better hope you finish top 2 in your conference....even if you win all of those...to get an at large bid

You forget they are not in the MVFC. Silly....xlolx

[lionsrking2]

I like our non-conference schedule as well ... all D-I opponents, with FCS playoff team at home, OVC on the road, and winnable FBS game.

8-30-14: Jacksonville U
9-6-14: Southern Utah
9-13-14: at Tulane
9-20-14: at Southeast Missouri


This is how you schedule a non-conference for 12 games. Sure helps the S.O.S.



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8/30/2014
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Lubbock, Texas


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9/6/2014
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Missouri State University (http://www.missouristatebears.com/)
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I am rather disappointed Conque didn't schedule McNeese..of course I heard it was because we had to rotate the newcomers to the SLC.

[clenz]

You forget they are not in the MVFC. Silly....xlolx
Damn...

That's right.


They are SLC, which means SHSU rules apply.

12 game season...only need 5, for sure D1 wins, with another that no one seems to be able to answer.

[BEAR]

Damn...

That's right.


They are SLC, which means SHSU rules apply.

12 game season...only need 5, for sure D1 wins, with another that no one seems to be able to answer.

Hey I agree with Sam not making the playoffs last year. We had the same record as them and beat them but didn't make the playoffs. (Note: that was for last year only..not basing it off previous years success that Sam had in the playoffs )

I'm not sure the Bears are too worried about making the playoffs this year. New head coach. New offensive and defensive schemes. Tough schedule with a few big losses on defense. If we get an at large, I'll be happy. It means we were successful. Our offense will do GREAT. Our defense might need some help outside the lines.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Hey I agree with Sam not making the playoffs last year. We had the same record as them and beat them but didn't make the playoffs. (Note: that was for last year only..not basing it off previous years success that Sam had in the playoffs )

I'm not sure the Bears are too worried about making the playoffs this year. New head coach. New offensive and defensive schemes. Tough schedule with a few big losses on defense. If we get an at large, I'll be happy. It means we were successful. Our offense will do GREAT. Our defense might need some help outside the lines.

Why don't you whine incessantly about it? It seems like it's the cool thing to do.

[centennial]

Why don't you whine incessantly about it? It seems like it's the cool thing to do.
MVFC gets screwed for life crew.

[IBleedYellow]

Why don't you whine incessantly about it? It seems like it's the cool thing to do.


Protip: His name isn't clenz. xthumbsupx

[BEAR]

Why don't you whine incessantly about it? It seems like it's the cool thing to do.

great idea! Oh wait.... xeyebrowx

[bonarae]

The Ivies have played D-II and D-III teams in the past.

We even lost one of those games. (Hint--the game was in the 1980s and the Ivy team began with a "C.")

At present, why hasn't this trend continued? xconfusedx xsmhx

To the Q, I think it was Cornell who got shut out by now-gone Northeastern in 1989.

[UAalum72]

At present, why hasn't this trend continued? xconfusedx xsmhx

To the Q, I think it was Cornell who got shut out by now-gone Northeastern in 1989.
Northeastern had been I-AA since 1978. Cornell did play the US Merchant Marine Academy in 1982, but they won that one.

[Houndawg]

Yeah, but does an NAIA team like Taylor help or hurt in the eyes of selection committee?

It doesn't help, and it doesn't sell tickets either. It might not hurt if play Purdue tough.

[clenz]

Protip: His name isn't clenz. xthumbsupx

It's not like I have anything of actual value to add to most conversations...

It's a very low hanging fruit and I'm pretty lazy....

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[grayghost06]

The Ivies have played D-II and D-III teams in the past.

We even lost one of those games. (Hint--the game was in the 1980s and the Ivy team began with a "C.")

I assumed you meant Columbia, since they were really awful back then. Didn't see a DII or III loss by either them or Cornell in the '80s though.

[Go Green]

I assumed you meant Columbia, since they were really awful back then. Didn't see a DII or III loss by either them or Cornell in the '80s though.

It was Columbia. And they lost to then-Division III Villanova during "The Streak."

http://www.nytimes.com/1986/11/02/sports/college-football-columbia-up-by-14-at-halftime-is-beaten-again.html

There were a handful of other games the Ivies played against D-II and D-III teams, but we won all of those.

As for why the trend hasn't continued... my guess is pride. If we want "easy" victories, there are several good FCS options for that.

[Bill]

Green

That's a good tidbit of history...but I personally think it's a stretch to call Villanova DIII in 1986. Yes, they were playing a schedule of primarily DIII schools as they re-formed the program, but they announced they were going to be D1-AA Yankee Conference when the program came back in 1984. That next season (1987) they were a full member of the Yankee Conference....

It's fun to nit pick :)

[grayghost06]

Yeah, I had forgotten about Villanova's little sabbatical from football. I assume had they not dropped the sport, they would have been knocked down to I-AA like Holy Cross, Colgate and the Ivies.

[superman7515]

That next season (1987) they were a full member of the Yankee Conference....

I don't believe Villanova was a full-member of the Yankee and 1AA until 1988.

From the same article linked above in the New York Times... "The Villanova coach, Andy Talley, has done a solid recruiting job as Villanova looks forward to Division I-AA status in 1988."

From the Baltimore Sun on November 2, 1990...

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1990-11-02/sports/1990306191_1_villanova-football-football-is-back-aceto

"The new Wildcats returned in September 1985 and went 5-0 against a group of JV teams that included one from the Naval Academy. In 1986, against a mix of Division III, II and I-AA teams (Iona, Mercyhurst, Columbia, Central Connecticut), they went 8-1. In 1987 they played I-A and I-AA teams and went 6-5.

In 1988 they joined the Yankee Conference and went 5-5-1. A year ago they went 8-4. Success begat success."

[Go Green]

but I personally think it's a stretch to call Villanova DIII in 1986.



Well... that's what they were.

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/atlantic10/villanova/index.php

If you want to argue that they had I-AA talent, that's fine. But they were officially a D-III team in 1985 and 1986.

[superman7515]

Well... that's what they were.

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/atlantic10/villanova/index.php

If you want to argue that they had I-AA talent, that's fine. But they were officially a D-III team in 1985 and 1986.

Eh, that's a great site, but not one to quote blindly. I can show you chains and chains of emails where I've talked to Dave and had him correct probably 30+ issues I noticed, and that's just with the 1AA teams I care about, haha. Don't get me wrong, he does excellent work, but it's like Wikipedia, always look for multiple sources, haha.

[Go Green]

Eh, that's a great site, but not one to quote blindly. I can show you chains and chains of emails where I've talked to Dave and had him correct probably 30+ issues I noticed, and that's just with the 1AA teams I care about, haha. Don't get me wrong, he does excellent work, but it's like Wikipedia, always look for multiple sources, haha.

Totally understand what you're saying. And it's good advice.

Here's a Philly Inquirer article previewing the game that also says that Nova was D-III at the time. I doubt that the Inquirer would get that wrong.

http://articles.philly.com/1986-10-30/sports/26056975_1_villanova-ivy-league-lions-columbia

[superman7515]

Totally understand what you're saying. And it's good advice.

Here's a Philly Inquirer article previewing the game that also says that Nova was D-III at the time. I doubt that the Inquirer would get that wrong.

http://articles.philly.com/1986-10-30/sports/26056975_1_villanova-ivy-league-lions-columbia

Oh yeah, they were definitely D3, I was just saying that I think they were actually D3 a year longer than CFBD has them listed at. The NY Times and Baltimore Sun both have articles from that time period saying they didn't join 1AA and the Yankee until 1988.

[Bill]

Green & Supe

Not so fast!

Good catch on 1988 being first year in Yankee.
As for D-III, according to the NCAA, Nova was never D3:
http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/D2/2008/Division%20III.pdf

However, to be fair, they are not counted as a 1-AA school until 1987:
http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/2012/fcs.pdf
I believe they existed in a state of limbo as they brought the program back…

[superman7515]

Green & Supe

Not so fast!

Good catch on 1988 being first year in Yankee.
As for D-III, according to the NCAA, Nova was never D3:
http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/D2/2008/Division%20III.pdf

However, to be fair, they are not counted as a 1-AA school until 1987:
http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/2012/fcs.pdf
I believe they existed in a state of limbo as they brought the program back…

I think we can all agree Nuck Fova, beyond that, who cares? Haha xlolx

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

I think we can all agree Nuck Fova, beyond that, who cares? Haha xlolx

I'll second that!

[clenz]

What's his take on the Yankee/A10/CAA fiasco?

That's what I really want to know

[Go Green]

Green & Supe

Not so fast!

Good catch on 1988 being first year in Yankee.
As for D-III, according to the NCAA, Nova was never D3:
http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/D2/2008/Division%20III.pdf



Page 99 of that document lists them under "Former Members."

[Bill]

Green

That's why I believe they existed in some sort of limbo...they are listed as former members, yet have no record of wins and losses...they came back to football, and instantly declared they would be 1-aa and in the Yankee conference, recruiting 1-aa players from the get-go.

Maybe this was some sort of "exception"? I do like Supe's approach...

"I'll take obscure FCS trivia for $300, Alex"...:)

[Sitting Bull]

Delaware has 3 Cream puffs - DelState, Colgate & Sacred Heart, ugh...

I'll skip one if not two of those beatings.

Not sure I would be so cocky on that.

Del State makes some sense, they are in state and FCS. Would expect a comfortable Hen win but who knows.

Colgate is a very respectable OOC. hens should win but it's no cupcake.

SHU made it to the FCS playoffs last year (unlike Delaware) and gave Fordham all they could handle in round 1.

[ThompsonThe]

Uh oh. The first game is against a USCAA opponent? xchinscratchx Then a D3. They couldn't want to lose... xsmashx

College of Faith - Charlotte? Davidson's first football game. I live in Charlotte, for many years, and have never ever heard of College of
Faith in Charlotte.