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clenz
April 16th, 2014, 10:36 PM
Can someone please post, or link me, to a 2014 conference alignment for the FCS as well as marking which teams are eligible/ineligible for their conference title and playoffs.

It would be very much appreciated.

clenz
April 16th, 2014, 10:42 PM
Okay...I was sent a list of teams and new conferences.

Can someone help me with the eligibility piece of who can/can't win the AQ and who is/isn't playoff eligible due to start up/move up and or APR?

The conferences in red I have recieved a message/post on - or I just happened to know. It was really the east coast and southern region conference I needed help with. The 2 conferences out west didn't change...


Cal Poly Mustangs
Eastern Washington Eagles
Idaho State Bengals
Montana Grizzlies
Montana State Bobcats
North Dakota
Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
Northern Colorado Bears
Portland State Vikings
Sacramento State Hornets
Southern Utah Thunderbirds
UC Davis Aggies
Weber State Wildcats

Charleston Southern Buccaneers
Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
Gardner-Webb Runnin' Bulldogs
Liberty Flames
Monmouth Hawks
Presbyterian Blue Hose

Albany Great Danes
Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
Elon Phoenix
James Madison Dukes
Maine Black Bears
New Hampshire Wildcats
Rhode Island Rams
Richmond Spiders
Stony Brook Seawolves
Towson Tigers
Villanova Wildcats
William & Mary Tribe

Brown Bears
Columbia Lions
Cornell Big Red
Dartmouth Big Green
Harvard Crimson
Pennsylvania Quakers
Princeton Tigers
Yale Bulldogs

Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
Delaware State Hornets
Florida A&M Rattlers
Hampton Pirates
Howard Bison
Morgan State Bears
Norfolk State Spartans
North Carolina A&T Aggies
North Carolina Central Eagles
Savannah State Tigers
South Carolina State Bulldogs

Illinois State Redbirds
Indiana State Sycamores
Missouri State Bears
North Dakota State Bison
Northern Iowa Panthers
South Dakota Coyotes
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
Southern Illinois Salukis
Western Illinois Leathernecks
Youngstown State Penguins

Bryant Bulldogs
Central Connecticut State Blue Devils
Duquesne Dukes
Robert Morris Colonials
Sacred Heart Pioneers
Saint Francis Red Flash
Wagner Seahawks

Austin Peay Governors
Eastern Illinois Panthers
Eastern Kentucky Colonels
Jacksonville State Gamecocks
Murray State Racers
Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
Tennessee State Tigers
Tennessee Tech Golden Eagles
Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks

Bucknell Bison
Colgate Raiders
Fordham Rams
Georgetown Hoyas
Holy Cross Crusaders
Lafayette Leopards
Lehigh Mountain Hawks

Butler Bulldogs
Campbell Fighting Camels
Davidson Wildcats
Dayton Flyers
Drake Bulldogs
Jacksonville Dolphins
Marist Red Foxes
Morehead State Eagles
San Diego Toreros
Stetson Hatters
Valparaiso Crusaders

Chattanooga Mocs
ETSU Buccaneers
Furman Paladins
Mercer University Bears
Samford Bulldogs
The Citadel Bulldogs
Virginia Military Institute Keydets
Western Carolina Catamounts
Wofford Terriers

Abilene Christian Wildcats
Central Arkansas Bears
Houston Baptist Huskies
Incarnate Word Cardinals
Lamar Cardinals
McNeese State Cowboys
Nicholls State Colonels
Northwestern State Demons
Sam Houston State Bearkats
Southeastern Louisiana Lions
Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks

Alabama A&M Bulldogs
Alabama State Hornets
Alcorn State Braves
Arkansas Pine Bluff Golden Lions
Grambling State Tigers
Jackson State Tigers
Mississippi Valley State Delta Devils
Prairie View A&M Panthers
Southern Jaguars
Texas Southern Tigers

clenz
April 16th, 2014, 11:09 PM
Also, a question regarding the SWAC.

I know that APR caused some real interesting situations to come up come NCAA time and auto bids there - do those exist in the football conference?

ursus arctos horribilis
April 16th, 2014, 11:15 PM
Well it looks like the SWAC and Southland are the big questions here with a little Socon and others so we could be in for a bit of a slow burn on this thread for a week or so.

You know Southerners and all.:D

citdog
April 16th, 2014, 11:34 PM
ETSU does not begin play this season. Mercer and VMI are immediately eligible and furman sucks. Hope this helps.



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Catatonic
April 17th, 2014, 05:30 AM
Okay...I was sent a list of teams and new conferences.

Can someone help me with the eligibility piece of who can/can't win the AQ and who is/isn't playoff eligible due to start up/move up and or APR?

Cal Poly Mustangs
Eastern Washington Eagles
Idaho State Bengals
Montana Grizzlies
Montana State Bobcats
North Dakota
Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
Northern Colorado Bears
Portland State Vikings
Sacramento State Hornets
Southern Utah Thunderbirds
UC Davis Aggies
Weber State Wildcats

Charleston Southern Buccaneers
Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
Gardner-Webb Runnin' Bulldogs
Liberty Flames
Monmouth Hawks
Presbyterian Blue Hose

Albany Great Danes
Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
Elon Phoenix
James Madison Dukes
Maine Black Bears
New Hampshire Wildcats
Rhode Island Rams
Richmond Spiders
Stony Brook Seawolves
Towson Tigers
Villanova Wildcats
William & Mary Tribe

Brown Bears
Columbia Lions
Cornell Big Red
Dartmouth Big Green
Harvard Crimson
Pennsylvania Quakers
Princeton Tigers
Yale Bulldogs

Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
Delaware State Hornets
Florida A&M Rattlers
Hampton Pirates
Howard Bison
Morgan State Bears
Norfolk State Spartans
North Carolina A&T Aggies
North Carolina Central Eagles
Savannah State Tigers
South Carolina State Bulldogs

Illinois State Redbirds
Indiana State Sycamores
Missouri State Bears
North Dakota State Bison
Northern Iowa Panthers
South Dakota Coyotes
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
Southern Illinois Salukis
Western Illinois Leathernecks
Youngstown State Penguins

Bryant Bulldogs
Central Connecticut State Blue Devils
Duquesne Dukes
Robert Morris Colonials
Sacred Heart Pioneers
Saint Francis Red Flash
Wagner Seahawks

Austin Peay Governors
Eastern Illinois Panthers
Eastern Kentucky Colonels
Jacksonville State Gamecocks
Murray State Racers
Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
Tennessee State Tigers
Tennessee Tech Golden Eagles
Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks

Bucknell Bison
Colgate Raiders
Fordham Rams
Georgetown Hoyas
Holy Cross Crusaders
Lafayette Leopards
Lehigh Mountain Hawks

Butler Bulldogs
Campbell Fighting Camels
Davidson Wildcats
Dayton Flyers
Drake Bulldogs
Jacksonville Dolphins
Marist Red Foxes
Morehead State Eagles
San Diego Toreros
Stetson Hatters
Valparaiso Crusaders

Chattanooga Mocs
ETSU Buccaneer's
Furman Paladins
Mercer University Bears
Samford Bulldogs
The Citadel Bulldogs
Virginia Military Institute Keydets
Western Carolina Catamounts
Wofford Terriers

Abilene Christian Wildcats
Central Arkansas Bears
Houston Baptist Huskies
Incarnate Word Cardinals
Lamar Cardinals
McNeese State Cowboys
Nicholls State Colonels
Northwestern State Demons
Sam Houston State Bearkats
Southeastern Louisiana Lions
Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks

Alabama A&M Bulldogs
Alabama State Hornets
Alcorn State Braves
Arkansas Pine Bluff Golden Lions
Grambling State Tigers
Jackson State Tigers
Mississippi Valley State Delta Devils
Prairie View A&M Panthers
Southern Jaguars
Texas Southern Tigers


Southland.
Teams in bold are move/start up and not eligible for playoff.

PaladinFan
April 17th, 2014, 07:03 AM
ETSU does not begin play this season. Mercer and VMI are immediately eligible and furman sucks. Hope this helps.



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Don't tell that to the southern pigskin crowd. I'm not sure they realize ETSU doesn't play this year and didn't play last year.

kdinva
April 17th, 2014, 09:06 AM
.....and furman sucks. Hope this helps.


That's gonna leave a mark. xslapfightx

superman7515
April 17th, 2014, 09:12 AM
Also, a question regarding the SWAC.

I know that APR caused some real interesting situations to come up come NCAA time and auto bids there - do those exist in the football conference?

If you're speaking strictly of how it relates to the SWAC, it wouldn't matter because of the SWAC's non-participation. They have their own contracts for their post-season and the APR doesn't matter to them.

PaladinFan
April 17th, 2014, 09:13 AM
That's gonna leave a mark. xslapfightx

He's just bitter. We did beat them at home this year with a fourth string quarterback.

clenz
April 17th, 2014, 09:40 AM
If you're speaking strictly of how it relates to the SWAC, it wouldn't matter because of the SWAC's non-participation. They have their own contracts for their post-season and the APR doesn't matter to them.
So...when it comes to crowning the champion they just go with whoever "won it" regardless of any APR issues?

FargoBison
April 17th, 2014, 09:49 AM
So...when it comes to crowning the champion they just go with whoever "won it" regardless of any APR issues?


Well they had 4 ineligible teams compete in their conference basketball tournament, not sure why football would be different.

clenz
April 17th, 2014, 09:56 AM
Well they had 4 ineligible teams compete in their conference basketball tournament, not sure why football would be different.
They weren't able to win the title/autobid though.

That's what I'm asking...it's not hard.

Is the team that finishes the regular season on top of conference standings the "Champion" or does it fall to the first team not hit with APR issues?

Also, the fact I even need to ask this is completely embarrassing for the conference. Yes, I realize other schools have issues as well but when nearly 40% of your schools have mens BB programs with APR issues it's just bad.

Lehigh Football Nation
April 17th, 2014, 09:57 AM
The SWAC CG is not affected by an NCAA post-season ban. It is up to the presidents of the SWAC to determine whether they want their schools to participate or not in the wake of APR violations. In years past I think at least one team was ineligible for the SCG because of it.

Of course, the APR hits HBCU's disproportionately, sometimes requiring the graduation rate of the team to exceed the overall graduation rate of the school, HBCU's don't have the resources that, say, Ohio State has to hound athletes to go to classes and take cake courses, etc, and many are on partial or no scholarship, meaning in many cases financial considerations cause them to drop out and affect their APR irrespective of their grades.

clenz
April 17th, 2014, 10:09 AM
We aren't turning this into a "poor SWAC for being forced to make kids go to class" thread.

That ends now.

So, what I'm getting is as of now there are no teams "ineligible" to win the conference title?

Holy crap, this is getting exhausting trying to get a simple "No" or "Yes, this team is ineligible" answer.

Lehigh Football Nation
April 17th, 2014, 10:32 AM
So, what I'm getting is as of now there are no teams "ineligible" to win the conference title?

I believe that's correct. Conference championships are independent of NCAA championships. A team can win the conference championship but be ineligible for postseason play. Unless the conference presidents say that the teams are ineligible for the conference through an APR violation or whatever.

ccd494
April 17th, 2014, 01:02 PM
I believe that's correct. Conference championships are independent of NCAA championships. A team can win the conference championship but be ineligible for postseason play. Unless the conference presidents say that the teams are ineligible for the conference through an APR violation or whatever.

Additionally, conferences have leeway for naming their champions. They could have a title game but designate someone else as champion if it is in their bylaws. You could do it by alphabetical order.

ursus arctos horribilis
April 17th, 2014, 01:09 PM
We aren't turning this into a "poor SWAC for being forced to make kids go to class" thread.

That ends now.

So, what I'm getting is as of now there are no teams "ineligible" to win the conference title?

Holy crap, this is getting exhausting trying to get a simple "No" or "Yes, this team is ineligible" answer.

xlolx

Now you get a taste of how much information is available here but how hard it can be to mine it out when you are trying to complete a simple task.

Think 2014 Schedules thread. I could name 20 other threads I've tried to use for an actual end game that were just destroyed and taken adrift only to become useless for their intended purpose.:D

Don't let em' stray clenzy or you'll hang yourself trying to complete this one.

clenz
April 17th, 2014, 01:21 PM
xlolx

Now you get a taste of how much information is available here but how hard it can be to mine it out when you are trying to complete a simple task.

Think 2014 Schedules thread. I could name 20 other threads I've tried to use for an actual end game that were just destroyed and taken adrift only to become useless for their intended purpose.:D

Don't let em' stray clenzy or you'll hang yourself trying to complete this one.
All it would take is a yes or freaking no...that's it.

Sadly those words are too complex for some posting here and the rest can't say yes or no without a 1500 word diatribe filled with garbage...xlolx

I should know better from my pick contest when I ask people to enter a school as a very specific way and then I get every variation except and then I don't I don't give points because they didn't do it the way I told them too they cry.

superman7515
April 17th, 2014, 01:23 PM
Is the team that finishes the regular season on top of conference standings the "Champion" or does it fall to the first team not hit with APR issues?

The best team from the East faces the best team from the West in the SCG, the winner gets the title.


The SWAC CG is not affected by an NCAA post-season ban. It is up to the presidents of the SWAC to determine whether they want their schools to participate or not in the wake of APR violations. In years past I think at least one team was ineligible for the SCG because of it.

They dropped this requirement because they don't want educational standards getting in the way of the potential $$$ involved in the SWAC Championship Game.

ursus arctos horribilis
April 17th, 2014, 01:45 PM
The best team from the East faces the best team from the West in the SCG, the winner gets the title.



They dropped this requirement because they don't want educational standards getting in the way of the potential $$$ involved in the SWAC Championship Game.

BOOM! NAILED IT!

* not that I was sure on that or anything but supey always nails it and I wanted to act like I knew it too.

ursus arctos horribilis
April 17th, 2014, 01:47 PM
All it would take is a yes or freaking no...that's it.

Sadly those words are too complex for some posting here and the rest can't say yes or no without a 1500 word diatribe filled with garbage...xlolx

I should know better from my pick contest when I ask people to enter a school as a very specific way and then I get every variation except and then I don't I don't give points because they didn't do it the way I told them too they cry.

Which is why I said we change that to check box style. Leave no variations on choice. Hell that's what you should have done here. We need just yes or no checkboxes to tick if that's all ya want. xlolx

clenz
April 17th, 2014, 01:51 PM
Which is why I said we change that to check box style. Leave no variations on choice. Hell that's what you should have done here. We need just yes or no checkboxes to tick if that's all ya want. xlolx
It's what I'm doing this year...

I can't wait to see how people screw it up xlolx

It'll be what you see in the poll all the time "You voted North Dakota #1...you sure you wanted to do that?"

Oh crap...now I Just freaking ruined this thread even more...sorry ursus.

melloware13
April 17th, 2014, 01:52 PM
As of now, all 12 CAA Football teams are eligible for everything. If/when a team announces any changes out of CAA Football, they immediately forfeit eligibility to the conference title and auto-bid (looking at you JMU).

clenz
April 17th, 2014, 01:53 PM
As of now, all 12 CAA Football teams are eligible for everything. If/when a team announces any changes out of CAA Football, they immediately forfeit eligibility to the conference title and auto-bid (looking at you JMU).
What if it comes after June 1st (that is the cut off, isn't it?)

melloware13
April 17th, 2014, 02:01 PM
What if it comes after June 1st (that is the cut off, isn't it?)
In terms of the CAA, the team is ineligible for the title and auto-bid immediately, no matter when it's announced. I think a few years back ODU announced after the NCAA cutoff, but the CAA rules came into play.

clenz
April 17th, 2014, 02:05 PM
In terms of the CAA, the team is ineligible for the title and auto-bid immediately, no matter when it's announced. I think a few years back ODU announced after the NCAA cutoff, but the CAA rules came into play.
I had to look that up...but you are correct

ursus arctos horribilis
April 17th, 2014, 02:14 PM
It's what I'm doing this year...

I can't wait to see how people screw it up xlolx

It'll be what you see in the poll all the time "You voted North Dakota #1...you sure you wanted to do that?"

Oh crap...now I Just freaking ruined this thread even more...sorry ursus.

It's YOUR thread brother.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIuyDWzctgY

clenz
April 17th, 2014, 02:15 PM
I'd prefer to not drift until I get my whole list turned red after that IDGARA and won't come back.

AshevilleApp2
April 17th, 2014, 02:39 PM
Well it looks like the SWAC and Southland are the big questions here with a little Socon and others so we could be in for a bit of a slow burn on this thread for a week or so.

You know Southerners and all.:D



Careful pal, I resemble that remark!

bjtheflamesfan
April 17th, 2014, 04:38 PM
Monmouth joins the Big South and as of this post all members are eligible for playoffs and conference title

pokefan02
April 17th, 2014, 04:55 PM
I am fairly certain that Houston Baptist is immediately eligible being they are already Div 1 and are playing a full FCS schedule.

dgtw
April 18th, 2014, 08:49 PM
As far as I know, everyone in the OVC is good to go where APR is concerned.

What kind of special resources do you need to make sure everyone goes to class? Divide the roster equally among the coaching staff. Each coach is responsible for making sure his guys go to class. Tell them they need to sit in the front of the class every day. Have strict punishments for not following those rules. Then follow through.

citdog
April 19th, 2014, 02:19 PM
What kind of special resources do you need to make sure everyone goes to class? Divide the roster equally among the coaching staff. Each coach is responsible for making sure his guys go to class. Tell them they need to sit in the front of the class every day. Have strict punishments for not following those rules. Then follow through.


it's NICE not to have THAT problem.

Catatonic
April 25th, 2014, 05:35 AM
I am fairly certain that Houston Baptist is immediately eligible being they are already Div 1 and are playing a full FCS schedule.

I believe you are correct. My earlier post was wrong. CU and UIW are not eligible as D2 move ups. HBU is eligible as a D1 program that has added football. Either way, the question is largely academic at this point in the program's development. HBU is not going to the playoffs this year.