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MiamiTorero
October 16th, 2006, 02:41 PM
All of talking about how easy scheduling is and how you would love to play USD so bad... Jim Harbough made an open challenge to SDSU sayin he would pay money out of his own pocket to buy out any contract with any team to play SDSU anytime anywhere and anyplace.

I garuntee you if you tell your coach to challenge USD the way we did SDSU then you'll get your game. Leave out the buyying out of the contract. If you USD out to Harbough I am telling you now he wont back down. So call of you "I wish we played USD to shut them up" tell your coach to make the challenge. He can do it. Send out a mass letter I know many of you are friends with players or are probably bench players for the teams ur "fans" of. I know you can let your coach know somehow. Make the challenge and yo'll get your game. One thing about USD is no matter how good them other team is we wont back down. Kinda like that Tom Petty song.


"IS THERE NO ONE ELSE????" hahaha:nono:

SochorField
October 16th, 2006, 02:42 PM
:deadhorse:

*****
October 16th, 2006, 02:44 PM
:dizzy: :deadhorse:

Death Dealer
October 16th, 2006, 02:45 PM
All of talking about how easy scheduling is and how you would love to play USD so bad... Jim Harbough made an open challenge to SDSU sayin he would pay money out of his own pocket to buy out any contract with any team to play SDSU anytime anywhere and anyplace.

I garuntee you if you tell your coach to challenge USD the way we did SDSU then you'll get your game. Leave out the buyying out of the contract. If you USD out to Harbough I am telling you now he wont back down. So call of you "I wish we played USD to shut them up" tell your coach to make the challenge. He can do it. Send out a mass letter I know many of you are friends with players or are probably bench players for the teams ur "fans" of. I know you can let your coach know somehow. Make the challenge and yo'll get your game. One thing about USD is no matter how good them other team is we wont back down. Kinda like that Tom Petty song.


"IS THERE NO ONE ELSE????" hahaha:nono:

You're an idiot.xlolx :nod: xlolx You even misspelled your own coaches name!

Mountaineer
October 16th, 2006, 02:47 PM
Seriously man. Please quit.

If you want to add to the USD discussion do a search and add to the countless other threads discussing USD.

We don't need a new thread everytime.

Keep it up and I'll wager a large portion of the AGS community will put anyone associated with USD on their ignore list.

I'm already 90% there. ;)

FUwolfpacker
October 16th, 2006, 02:50 PM
:giveadamn:

ToreroTime
October 16th, 2006, 02:52 PM
Ill be the first one to admit there might be one too many USD topics, but if people were not passionate about arguing different points then it would stop in a second. Like most posters here, I just want to talk about the different teams and discuss football, not the politics of the playoffs or what if situations.

Death Dealer
October 16th, 2006, 02:55 PM
Hey TT, I don't know much about your program. Can you tell me a little about it....a little history? Don't mean to sound ignorant, but so far all the threads have been pretty focused on one topic and I confess to a slight Southeast Coast bias when it comes to my football knowledge.

AggiePride
October 16th, 2006, 03:06 PM
I think AGS has a troll.

Anyways, see you later this season MT.

ToreroTime
October 16th, 2006, 03:07 PM
At USD if you ask, than you shall receive:
USD Quick Facts
Chartered in 1949
Students: 4962 undergraduate, 1376 graduate, and 1145 law
Alumni: 43,962 in all 50 states and 90 countries, with 65% living in California
8 men's and 8 women's NCAA Division I teams
Divison 3 Playoffs in 1973
Moved to Division I-AA in 1992, joining the Pioneer League
2003 Co-North Pioneer League Champions
2005 Pioneer League Football Champions (11-1)

Death Dealer
October 16th, 2006, 03:15 PM
How long has Harbaugh been your coach?

USDFAN_55
October 16th, 2006, 03:17 PM
I believe Harbaugh is in his 3rd year at USD.

GOTOREROS
October 16th, 2006, 03:20 PM
How long has Harbaugh been your coach?

This is Harbaugh's third year at San Diego......career record of 24-5 at USD I think. We really don't have much football "history/tradition" at USD. I think that is why you are starting to see so many USD fans now - we finally have some excitment to talk about......I know it bores you guys but we are really enjoying this run with Harbaugh.....he might be gone soon so pardon us for enjoying it while it lasts...

2004: 7-4
2005: 11-1
2006: 6-0 thus far

GOTOREROS

USDFAN_55
October 16th, 2006, 03:20 PM
I think the thing I find interesting about the "new" USD is where the recruits come from now. Before USD would mainly get recruits from California, Oregon, Arizona, Hawaii, and Washinton. Now if you look at the roster there are kids from all over the USA. I think this shows how Harbaugh and his staff are getting out there and pulling in from a lot bigger pool of talent. This may be one of the reasons why USD is getting better each year with Harbaugh.

Death Dealer
October 16th, 2006, 03:58 PM
So, do you think that your admin will ever spend some money on shcolarships? I'm impressed you can recruit any talent without shcollys. Where was Harbaugh before he came on at USD?

USDFAN_55
October 16th, 2006, 04:20 PM
I believe he was a QB coach for the Raiders. and Before that: Over his final eight seasons in the NFL (1994-2001), Jim was an NCAA-certified unpaid assistant coach under his father, Jack, at Western Kentucky University. Serving as an offensive consultant, he scouted and recruited high school student-athletes throughout several states including Florida, Indiana and Illinois. He was involved in recruiting 17 players on WKU's 2002 I-AA National Championship team. His dad was a football coach for 41 years, including 14-years as Head Coach at Western Kentucky.

USDFAN_55
October 16th, 2006, 04:22 PM
this is the coach I like though.... what an awesome coach to have at any level.

Dave Adolph enters his third season at USD, and his second in a full-time capacity where he will be Assistant Head Coach. He will also be the program's Defensive Coordinator and Linebackers coach.

Dave returned to coaching in 2004 following a 37-year coaching career that ended in January, 2000 when he retired from his post with the Kansas City Chiefs as assistant head coach/linebackers coach. He spent 21 years in the NFL ranks, including two tours of duty with the Chiefs. He served as the team's defensive coordinator from 1992-1994 and worked as the club's assistant head coach/linebacker coach in 1999.

This respected defensive expert spent his entire pro coaching career (21 years) in the AFC, including 14 years as a defensive coordinator and 12 seasons in the AFC West, making 11 career playoff appearances in the process. Prior to joining the Chiefs, Adolph spent two years ('97-98) as linebackers coach for the Oakland Raiders. He signed on with Oakland after a two-year stint ('95-96) as defensiver coordinator for the San Diego Chargers. During his three-year tenure as Kansas City's defensive coordinator from '92-94, the Chiefs made three straight playoff appearances and allowed an average of just 18.1 points per game.

A native of Akron, Ohio, Adolph originally came to Kansas City after spending three seasons ('89-91) as defensive coordinator for the L.A. Raiders. He spent the '86-88 seasons as defensive coordinator of the Cleveland Browns. Adolph began his NFL career as the Browns defensive line coach in 1979. He took over the club's linebackers in '81 before assuming duties as defensive coordinator midway through the '84 season when Marty Schottenheimer was named head coach. He then spent one season ('85) as an assistant for San Diego before rejoining the Browns in '86.

A 16-year coaching veteran on the collegiate level, Adolph worked with the legendary Woody Hayes at Ohio State from '77-78. He also coached at Illinois ('73-76), Kentucky ('69-72), Connecticut ('65-68) and his alma mater of Akron ('63-64). An all-conference guard and linebacker for the Zips, Adolph spent three years ('59-61) as a commissioned officer in the Air Force before beginning his coaching career at Cleveland's Shaw High School in '62.

Death Dealer
October 16th, 2006, 04:37 PM
Wow, that is one hell of a resume. How did Harbaugh get him to come out of retirement?

UNHWildCats
October 16th, 2006, 04:39 PM
this is getting freaking absurd.

catbob
October 16th, 2006, 04:41 PM
It isn't as though anyone thinks the USD program is pathetic. No one is bored by the sucess of other schools.

But when nearly EVERY SINGLE day has a new thread proclaiming the greatness of a school, no matter what school, it is going to piss people off.

Frankly, I am sick and tired of hearing about USD. Is it possible to just /ignore USD?

GOTOREROS
October 16th, 2006, 04:44 PM
It isn't as though anyone thinks the USD program is pathetic. No one is bored by the sucess of other schools.

But when nearly EVERY SINGLE day has a new thread proclaiming the greatness of a school, no matter what school, it is going to piss people off.

Frankly, I am sick and tired of hearing about USD. Is it possible to just /ignore USD?

Someone asked about USD and several of us have replied. What should we do - ignore questions and not respond? :rolleyes:

GOTOREROS

USDFAN_55
October 16th, 2006, 04:46 PM
It isn't as though anyone thinks the USD program is pathetic. No one is bored by the sucess of other schools.

But when nearly EVERY SINGLE day has a new thread proclaiming the greatness of a school, no matter what school, it is going to piss people off.

Frankly, I am sick and tired of hearing about USD. Is it possible to just /ignore USD?

Just trying to talk football here. Don't click on any of the threads that say USD in them if you are sick and tired of them. That is why the threads have titles, so you can screen which ones you want to read.

I'm not here promoting USD as the greatest team.... just a solid I-AA team this year. In no way will you ever catch me saying that USD is a playoff team this year. Let's talk about this next year if the success continues with a tougher schedule.

USDFAN_55
October 16th, 2006, 04:48 PM
Wow, that is one hell of a resume. How did Harbaugh get him to come out of retirement?

I have no clue. Maybe someone else can answer that one. from looking at his resume it looks as though they may have crossed paths a time or two in their careers. Plus Adolph has ties to the San Diego chargers, so he may have just wanted to come back to San Diego in a more low key roll.

USDFAN_55
October 16th, 2006, 04:52 PM
Some more general info:

RECORD:
10 Winning Campaigns
2005 PFL Champions
2005 PFL North Division Champions
2003 co-PFL North Division Champions
Recipient of Sports Network Cup in 2005 as No. 1
ranked I-AA Mid-Major program in the nation
Overall Record of 98-63-1 (.608 Win %)

CONFERENCE:

Jumped to NCAA Division I-AA in 1993
Member of Pioneer Football League (PFL)
67 First Team All-PFL selections
61 Second Team All-PFL selections
70 PFL All-Academic selections
81 PFL Players of the Week

ALL-AMERICANS:

Four Toreros selected Sports Network Mid-Major 1st Team All-America in 2005
Four Toreros selected Sports Network Mid-Major 1st Team All-America in 2004
Josh Johnson tabbed 2005 Offensive Back of the Year
(Don Hansen's Football Gazette)
Evan Harney tabbed 2004 Offensive Back of the Year
(Don Hansen's Football Gazette)
Eric Rasmussen - AFCA 2nd Team All-America in 2003
Jeb Dougherty - NCAA Division I-AA All-America in 1996
Doug Popovich named AFCA 3rd Team All-America in 1995
Fifteen Sports Network All-Americans
Six First Team ESPN The Magazine Academic All-
Americans; Three 2nd Team.

GENERAL:

QB Todd Mortensen (2004) signed free agent contract with NFL's Detroit Lions. This past spring (2005) was allocated
to NFL Europe by the New England Patriots.

WR Michael Gasperson (2004) signed a free agent contract with NFL's Philadelphia Eagles.

The National Football Foundation and College Hall of Fame has recognized a Torero football player every year

Three Burger King National Scholar-Athletes of the Week

Eric Rasmussen led the 2003 & 2002 NCAA I-AA ranks in passing efficiency.

Team ranked #1 in Total Offense in 2003 at 483.3 ypg.

Evan Hlavacek (1993-96, RB & WR), a member of the
Albany Firebirds in the Arena Football League, led the 2000 team with 97 tackles as a defensive specialist; the
1999 team was crowned the AFL World Champions.

Dylan Ching (1996-99), the program's second all-time
leader in receiving, was a 3rd round pick by the CFL's Saskatchewan Roughriders.

ToreroTime
October 16th, 2006, 05:16 PM
Just trying to talk football here. Don't click on any of the threads that say USD in them if you are sick and tired of them. That is why the threads have titles, so you can screen which ones you want to read.

Thank you, I am tired of people complaining about all the USD topics. This is a big forum with a lot of things going on, no one is forcing you to dicuss USD or any other football topic.

BigApp
October 16th, 2006, 05:22 PM
Wow! A San Diego thread!

Hey kids, LOOK!
There's Big Ben, Parliament

UAalum72
October 16th, 2006, 05:48 PM
Somebody on some forum I've read has a quote from Ghandi as his signature:
"First they ignore us, then they laugh at us, then they fight us, then we win".

I think the NEC is now at stage 3; all these threads have been USD's way of getting to stage 2.

Poly Pigskin
October 16th, 2006, 06:03 PM
Thank you, I am tired of people complaining about all the USD topics. This is a big forum with a lot of things going on, no one is forcing you to dicuss USD or any other football topic.

The thing is, you guys have a bizillion threads on the SAME DAMN TOPIC. One is plenty, maybe two if you are nice about it. We got the message, now you are just pissing everyone else off. I can't wait to see Davis run you into the ground. Go Ags! xsmileyclapx

AppGuy04
October 16th, 2006, 06:05 PM
JUST SHUT UP!!!:bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang:

USDFAN_55
October 16th, 2006, 06:07 PM
The thing is, you guys have a bizillion threads on the SAME DAMN TOPIC. One is plenty, maybe two if you are nice about it. We got the message, now you are just pissing everyone else off. I can't wait to see Davis run you into the ground. Go Ags! xsmileyclapx

OK, that's fine.... but what if USD does win this game? Will everyone be saying that it was just a fluke, or will they then garner some respect?

Poly Pigskin
October 16th, 2006, 06:17 PM
OK, that's fine.... but what if USD does win this game? Will everyone be saying that it was just a fluke, or will they then garner some respect?

You would gain a certain level of respect from me, so long as UCD doesn't lose any key players to injury before then. But even if you do win, you have to keep that respect by continuing to schedule and beat quality opponents. All of the GWFC teams have large OOC schedules to fill, and I'm sure more than a few would be willing to play USD, so you really have no excuse to not play better teams than Dixie and the like.

USDFAN_55
October 16th, 2006, 06:21 PM
It's all about money. Most contracts require guaranteed money. The bigger schools with larger budgets require more money. this has to be taken into consideration for a low budget program such as USDs. Hopefully the success will push the Administrators to give more money.

Death Dealer
October 16th, 2006, 06:24 PM
The thing is, you guys have a bizillion threads on the SAME DAMN TOPIC. One is plenty, maybe two if you are nice about it. We got the message, now you are just pissing everyone else off.

Actually PPskin, I wasn't that familiar with USD's program, and I admit, I was one of the many who was tired of hearing how they deserved to be in the playoffs this year. This thread started out as the same old schtick, but USDF55 and I sorta hijacked it. USDF55 has been bringing me up to speed in the last half of this thread. I asked the questions out of real curiosity. Sorry if it bothers anyone, but I had heard so much back and forth and really didn't know much about the school, so I asked. You really don't have to read the thread, just ignore us. I guess we could have started a new thread, but I didn't want to add to the insanity. USDF55 is not one of the posters you are complaining about, so, no offense, but mind your own business and lay off.

Poly Pigskin
October 16th, 2006, 06:30 PM
Actually PPskin, I wasn't that familiar with USD's program, and I admit, I was one of the many who was tired of hearing how they deserved to be in the playoffs this year. This thread started out as the same old schtick, but USDF55 and I sorta hijacked it. USDF55 has been bringing me up to speed in the last half of this thread. I asked the questions out of real curiosity. Sorry if it bothers anyone, but I had heard so much back and forth and really didn't know much about the school, so I asked. You really don't have to read the thread, just ignore us. I guess we could have started a new thread, but I didn't want to add to the insanity. USDF55 is not one of the posters you are complaining about, so, no offense, but mind your own business and lay off.

fair enough

GOTOREROS
October 16th, 2006, 06:31 PM
JUST SHUT UP!!!:bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang:

Why do you keep responding? I find it hilarious that you are so upset that you respond to each USD topic! Why do you "click" on the topics if they bother you so much? IGNORE them, click on another topic and talk about whatever you want. You're like the person that listens to Howard Stern and complains about having to listen to him....all you have to do is change the channel (DON'T CLICK ON THE THREADS)! No one is forcing you to come into this discussion - is there someone next to you at your computer with a gun to your head? Are you that "thin-skinned"? xidiotx

Simply don't come into the thread if it irritates you so much. What are you an old lady? Here's some advice, if you see the word "USD" or "San Diego" in the thread topic don't click on it...you should check your blood pressure if you can't deal with some message board posts...they now have medication for that sort of thing.

GOTOREROS

*****
October 16th, 2006, 06:35 PM
thanks for all the facts guys, we all really like USD's team... we really do.

AppGuy04
October 16th, 2006, 06:39 PM
Why do you keep responding? I find it hilarious that you are so upset that you respond to each USD topic! Why do you "click" on the topics if they bother you so much? IGNORE them, click on another topic and talk about whatever you want. You're like the person that listens to Howard Stern and complains about having to listen to him....all you have to do is change the channel (DON'T CLICK ON THE THREADS)! No one is forcing you to come into this discussion - is there someone next to you at your computer with a gun to your head? Are you that "thin-skinned"? xidiotx

Simply don't come into the thread if it irritates you so much. What are you an old lady? Here's some advice, if you see the word "USD" or "San Diego" in the thread topic don't click on it...you should check your blood pressure if you can't deal with some message board posts...they now have medication for that sort of thing.

GOTOREROS
and I find it funny that you guys have to create 10000 threads about the same ****ing topic

you haven't accomplished anything, and with the schedule you have, you won't accomplish anything until next season, if that

you know what they say about people who brag about the size of their dick:waawaa:

PantherRob82
October 16th, 2006, 06:40 PM
I think everyone just wants a little breathing room on the topic until nov 18th or later...beating the NEC champ would be a good start.

*****
October 16th, 2006, 06:40 PM
... you know what they say about people who brag about the size of their dick:waawaa:THAT IS UNCALLED FOR ON THIS DISCUSSION BOARD
:nonono2:
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AppGuy04
October 16th, 2006, 06:42 PM
THAT IS UNCALLED FOR ON THIS DISCUSSION BOARD
:nonono2:
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sorry Ralph, but this **** is ridiculous:bang:

BigApp
October 16th, 2006, 06:47 PM
bump :D

GOTOREROS
October 16th, 2006, 06:59 PM
and I find it funny that you guys have to create 10000 threads about the same ****ing topic

you haven't accomplished anything, and with the schedule you have, you won't accomplish anything until next season, if that

you know what they say about people who brag about the size of their dick:waawaa:

Again, if you are so irritated and put off by San Diego why do you keep coming back? Is it too much for you not to respond? Can you not control yourself? Simply go to another topic if you are so hurt....:rolleyes:

What do you care if there are a tens of threads on USD? Simply respond and read the topics that YOU want to - complaining about something that you can avoid is plain STUPID. You're the old woman who complains about Howard Stern and doesn't realize that she can change the channel....xlolx You have the power to control your own future - use it! xsmileyclapx

I haven't looked at a single thread about App St and don't plan on it - see how easy that is?

Again, is there someone next to you holding a gun to your head forcing you to read the USD topics? :D

GOTOREROS

Death Dealer
October 16th, 2006, 07:07 PM
Hey will you guys take it outside already. I can't find the answers to my questions without having to wade through all of your :argue: . Go to one of the other USD threads (there are plenty to choose from) and continue your pissing match over there please.

Death Dealer
October 16th, 2006, 07:11 PM
It's all about money. Most contracts require guaranteed money. The bigger schools with larger budgets require more money. this has to be taken into consideration for a low budget program such as USDs. Hopefully the success will push the Administrators to give more money.

From what you've posted, it looks like you guys are seriously ready to play some tougher teams....probably won't get as good a result week after week, but we won't know til you try. Your alumni really need to push your AD and other admin. to take it up a notch. From what Harbaugh says in the papers, he doesn't seem to be scared to step on out. Come over to G'vegas and play us sometime, maybe we can return the favor and come to San Diego, never been there, be a nice excuse to visit.

usdtoreros
October 16th, 2006, 07:28 PM
From what you've posted, it looks like you guys are seriously ready to play some tougher teams....probably won't get as good a result week after week, but we won't know til you try. Your alumni really need to push your AD and other admin. to take it up a notch. From what Harbaugh says in the papers, he doesn't seem to be scared to step on out. Come over to G'vegas and play us sometime, maybe we can return the favor and come to San Diego, never been there, be a nice excuse to visit.

I just wanted to add to the "real discussion" going on in this thread. The reason everyone from USD is so excited is that we have always thrived in all of the sports that don't gain national publicity so a lot of this is very new to us. The last time we had this many people talking USD athletics is when we beat Gonzaga in men's basketball to go to the big dance and then nearly upset Stanford in the first round.

Ever since I came to USD, men's basketball has been the big sport as far as media/fan attention, but now football seems to be passing it. I doubt that we will ever go scholarship in football (especially if Harbaugh doesn't stay for long) but we should be able to continue fielding an above average I-AA squad.

A few side notes about other sports at USD. Our volleyball team has been ranked in the Top 25 consistantly over the past few years (currently #20). Both men's and women's soccer have also been in the Top 25 quite a bit for many years (Men's Soccer lost in the National Championship in 1991). Our top men's tennis player made it to the national championship two years ago. Our baseball team has also been ranked in the Top 25 recently and last year began the season with a 3 game sweep over #1 Texas.

All this success in the other sports is part of the reason for Harbaugh's calling out of SDSU. We beat them a majority of time in almost every other sport, yet they get all the publicity. Any publicity we can get should help our program. It is so much fun seeing people all around the country discuss our team. Sorry for all the spamming of the boards, but there are some of us USD people that are here to answer any questions honestly.

GOTOREROS
October 16th, 2006, 07:30 PM
From what you've posted, it looks like you guys are seriously ready to play some tougher teams....probably won't get as good a result week after week, but we won't know til you try. Your alumni really need to push your AD and other admin. to take it up a notch. From what Harbaugh says in the papers, he doesn't seem to be scared to step on out. Come over to G'vegas and play us sometime, maybe we can return the favor and come to San Diego, never been there, be a nice excuse to visit.

I agree with your post. If we toughen up the schedule we are not undefeated - personally I am OK with that. I would prefer to lose to ASU, FU, CP, etc than beat Dixie St. I have no illusions that we would be undefeated - I think our team right now could compete with you guys but I have no idea what a score might be. As you and others have said it is the great unknown.

I hope we do step up the schedule I know that our fans would be very excited...win or lose it would benefit USD.

GOTOREROS

YoUDeeMan
October 16th, 2006, 08:30 PM
Again, if you are so irritated and put off by San Diego why do you keep coming back? Is it too much for you not to respond? Can you not control yourself? Simply go to another topic if you are so hurt....:rolleyes:

What do you care if there are a tens of threads on USD? Simply respond and read the topics that YOU want to - complaining about something that you can avoid is plain STUPID. You're the old woman who complains about Howard Stern and doesn't realize that she can change the channel....xlolx You have the power to control your own future - use it! xsmileyclapx

I haven't looked at a single thread about App St and don't plan on it - see how easy that is?

Again, is there someone next to you holding a gun to your head forcing you to read the USD topics? :D

GOTOREROS

GOTOREROS - Thanks to Death Dealer and a few of the more level headed USD fans, I'm actually enjoying learning more about your football program from this thread. However, the one comment (my bold) is troublesome and speaks volumes about the quality of thinking from some the SDU fan base. If you are on AGS to talk football and exchange ideas, then most people will welcome you and enjoy a good discussion. However, if you are just here to toot your own team's horn without reading other threads to learn about other teams - especially a highly ranked team such as ASU - then you will get no respect. Nor will you deserve any.

GOTOREROS
October 16th, 2006, 11:10 PM
GOTOREROS - Thanks to Death Dealer and a few of the more level headed USD fans, I'm actually enjoying learning more about your football program from this thread. However, the one comment (my bold) is troublesome and speaks volumes about the quality of thinking from some the SDU fan base. If you are on AGS to talk football and exchange ideas, then most people will welcome you and enjoy a good discussion. However, if you are just here to toot your own team's horn without reading other threads to learn about other teams - especially a highly ranked team such as ASU - then you will get no respect. Nor will you deserve any.

Well, first of all we are the University of San Diego not SDU. It really irritates me when people say SDU - what the heck is SDU? We are either USD or San Diego.

And to be honest, I actually visited the ASU school site and athletic site this evening. So my point was more of a sarcastic one than reality - I guess I should have used this emoticon :rolleyes: . Again, just as in real life if you have the choice in life to avoid something you should. Don't blame others for something you can avoid - hence my reference to Howard Stern.

I would hope you google my school as well to learn about USD and not only rely on the threads here. I actually have followed many of the teams here as I am a college football junkie - surfing the internet is easy. Let me know if I can direct you to our various school sites...I would love to talk about USD till I am blue in the face. What would you like to know?

www.sandiego.edu

www.usdtoreros.com


GOTOREROS

USDFAN_55
October 16th, 2006, 11:15 PM
Well I think anyone can read websites. I like points of views, backed up with facts. Point out interesting trends. Give insider information if you have any. We are here to learn what can't be read on common football sites, as well as discuss what the common websites are saying. Let's use out brains here and talk some football. Not just USD, but I-AA. I am very interested in how these powerful I-AA schools became the top dogs. Maybe see if the schools I like (San Diego and Cal Poly) are headed in the right direction.

PantherRob82
October 16th, 2006, 11:18 PM
I think there are 2 things that may cause ADs to not want to schedule USD.

#1- Might be afraid they'll lose.
#2- There's no guarantee USD will be a quality opponent year in and year out. (While other teams are no guarantee, USD being a non-scholarship school makes the odds of scheduling a dud a little better).

USDFAN_55
October 16th, 2006, 11:21 PM
I think there are 2 things that may cause ADs to not want to schedule USD.

#1- Might be afraid they'll lose.
#2- There's no guarantee USD will be a quality opponent year in and year out. (While other teams are no guarantee, USD being a non-scholarship school makes the odds of scheduling a dud a little better).

That's very true. It's a gamble to schedule a team such as USD for a powerful schollarship school.... to me it is a lose lose situation. If you win, so be it, you were supposed to win. If you lose your program looks really bad.

Death Dealer
October 16th, 2006, 11:27 PM
I doubt that we will ever go scholarship in football (especially if Harbaugh doesn't stay for long) but we should be able to continue fielding an above average I-AA squad.

I hope you're wrong about that. I wish your program the best and I'll be watching what you do for the next few years, but I seriously doubt you can continue to grow and be able to compete with the likes of ASU, JMU, UNH, etc., without the recruiting power of scholarships....not absolutley impossible, but pretty damn tough (without a strong personality like Harbaugh).

USDFAN_55
October 16th, 2006, 11:31 PM
Well Harbaugh signed a contract extension in the beginning of the year, so hopefully he stays true to that contract. He may just want to bring USD into national I-AA prominance as his dad did with western Kentucky.... but then again if USD administrators aren't committed finacially to making USD football what it can be, then Harbaugh will be out soon.

Death Dealer
October 16th, 2006, 11:45 PM
Well Harbaugh signed a contract extension in the beginning of the year, so hopefully he stays true to that contract. He may just want to bring USD into national I-AA prominance as his dad did with western Kentucky.... but then again if USD administrators aren't committed finacially to making USD football what it can be, then Harbaugh will be out soon.

Sounds like you boys need to make a little noise...Money talks. If the alumni boosters start pushing, the AD will feel the pressure...you guys sure seem passionate enough. Put as much energy into that as you have into posting about USD on AGS, and you can probably get it done. What's good for the Pioneer League is good for I-AA, right?

Dane96
October 16th, 2006, 11:49 PM
Well Harbaugh signed a contract extension in the beginning of the year, so hopefully he stays true to that contract. He may just want to bring USD into national I-AA prominance as his dad did with western Kentucky.... but then again if USD administrators aren't committed finacially to making USD football what it can be, then Harbaugh will be out soon.


If Harbaugh stays..I agree USD will be fine. He will get good QB's to play for him...no question!

Torero Tradition
October 16th, 2006, 11:49 PM
If you assume the Pioneer League is good for I-AA :)

USDFAN_55
October 16th, 2006, 11:51 PM
Sounds like you boys need to make a little noise...Money talks. If the alumni boosters start pushing, the AD will feel the pressure...you guys sure seem passionate enough. Put as much energy into that as you have into posting about USD on AGS, and you can probably get it done. What's good for the Pioneer League is good for I-AA, right?

That's a lot easier said than done. This school has a high academic standard, which means the admins. aren't going to give money to the football program, but rather to the law school, or business school, etc..... I have seen with Harbaugh a lot more money going to football, but b-ball is still number 1 to everyone at USD.... makes no sense to me since they are generally a midle of the pack WCC team.... with a fluke season here and there. Football can bring in way more recognition to USD. San Diego is known as a hotbed for football talent. If USD can tap into that talent with some scholarships, they can be very scary. the school is in a great location (overlooking Sea World), has great weather, is a top notch liberal arts college, and the female to male ratio is 60:40!!!! That is a good foundation for a powerful I-AA team.

OrneryAggie
October 16th, 2006, 11:59 PM
Well, first of all we are the University of San Diego not SDU. It really irritates me when people say SDU - what the heck is SDU? We are either USD or San Diego. .....
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Not to be confused with Cal-San Diego, I mean UC San Diego.

Death Dealer
October 16th, 2006, 11:59 PM
That's a lot easier said than done. This school has a high academic standard, which means the admins. aren't going to give money to the football program, but rather to the law school, or business school, etc..... I have seen with Harbaugh a lot more money going to football, but b-ball is still number 1 to everyone at USD.... makes no sense to me since they are generally a midle of the pack WCC team.... with a fluke season here and there. Football can bring in way more recognition to USD. San Diego is known as a hotbed for football talent. If USD can tap into that talent with some scholarships, they can be very scary. the school is in a great location (overlooking Sea World), has great weather, is a top notch liberal arts college, and the female to male ratio is 60:40!!!! That is a good foundation for a powerful I-AA team.

Hey if we can do it, you guys can too. We have 2700 or so students with an average SAT score well above 1200. We lose alot of potential talent due to the fact that they can't qualify academically, and yet we have consistently fielded top 10 teams year after year, many of those in the top 5. Just keep on plugging away at the powers that be, and make sure they know that you all support Harbaugh. Do you have an organized booster? I'm sure you do....that's the place to start.

Anyway, I gotta hit the rack...It's late over here on the East Coast!xlolx And my patients aren't gonna like me much if I don't get some sleep.xcoffeex Been good talking to you guys.

Torero Tradition
October 17th, 2006, 12:16 AM
Univ. of San Diego gets confused all the time with SDSU and UC-San Diego, really annoying.

PantherRob82
October 17th, 2006, 12:30 AM
It's getting pretty late here on the midwest coast as well. My wife is going to kill me.

Why doesn't Harbaugh lead the charge for scholarship fundraising?

I've heard a group of Wichita State boosters and alum have started fundraising for football only scholarships.:hurray:

Torero Tradition
October 17th, 2006, 12:34 AM
You can fundraise all you want... but if the school doesn't have your back... you are S.O.L.

Mr. C
October 17th, 2006, 12:58 AM
Here's an idea for USD: Turn scheduling over to Jack Harbaugh. Jack is a well liked and well respected coach in I-AA, with a lot of important friends. If he calls some of his head coaching friends, I'm sure that he could find some better games for the Toreros. Now it might require traveling back to the midwest, south, or east, but there are games to be had. I know Appalachian State was struggling to fill its schedule this season and they contacted EVERY school in I-AA about the possibility of playing. San Diego could have traveled to Boone, N.C. and played the defending national champs, if Jim Harbaugh had so desired. You think that people might have respected your team a little more, if they had taken on that challenge?

GOTOREROS
October 17th, 2006, 01:00 AM
Well a scholarship at USD with full coast of attendance is about 42k a year, so if you had 63 of them that is 2.6 million alone in scholarships.

I really wish we could get the school to go towards an NEC setup which is more likely.....or even the Patriot model.

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ToreroTime
October 17th, 2006, 01:01 AM
Jack Harbaugh is amazing, but he is also the Marquette AD and is busy a lot of time in the mid west. After this year I think our AD will get on the horse and be aggresive.

GOTOREROS
October 17th, 2006, 01:03 AM
Here's an idea for USD: Turn scheduling over to Jack Harbaugh. Jack is a well liked and well respected coach in I-AA, with a lot of important friends. If he calls some of his head coaching friends, I'm sure that he could find some better games for the Toreros. Now it might require traveling back to the midwest, south, or east, but there are games to be had. I know Appalachian State was struggling to fill its schedule this season and they contacted EVERY school in I-AA about the possibility of playing. San Diego could have traveled to Boone, N.C. and played the defending national champs, if Jim Harbaugh had so desired. You think that people might have respected your team a little more, if they had taken on that challenge?

I can't disagree with you. In fact it is my hope that should JIM Harbaugh leave, we hire JACK Harbaugh to take his place......I agree about the scheduling and how it causes the lack of respect...

Jack was actually a volunteer assistant for Jim his first year here at USD, and while not on the sidelines now still attends each game in the stands.

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GOTOREROS
October 17th, 2006, 01:05 AM
Jack Harbaugh is amazing, but he is also the Marquette AD and is busy a lot of time in the mid west. After this year I think our AD will get on the horse and be aggresive.

Actually, Jack Harbaugh is an Associate AD at Marquette. Bill Cords is the AD - Jack does travel though to each home game in San Diego, where he also spends the weekends with the grandkids....

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Mr. C
October 17th, 2006, 01:06 AM
I can't disagree with you. In fact it is my hope that should JIM Harbaugh leave, we hire JACK Harbaugh to take his place......I agree about the scheduling and how it causes the lack of respect...

Jack was actually a volunteer assistant for Jim his first year here at USD, and while not on the sidelines now still attends each game in the stands.

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Wasn't aware that Jack wasn't working as a volunteer assistant anymore. Too bad. Classy fellow. Will always remember him doing his press conference after winning the 2002 national championship with his grandkids in his lap and at his side. It was a special moment.

GOTOREROS
October 17th, 2006, 01:15 AM
Wasn't aware that Jack wasn't working as a volunteer assistant anymore. Too bad. Classy fellow. Will always remember him doing his press conference after winning the 2002 national championship with his grandkids in his lap and at his side. It was a special moment.

Jack Harbaugh is the MAN. I have talked with him any times and as you said his grandkids are NEVER far away from him. He lives for them, and while he is technically working at Marquette he comes to all the home USD games, and spends qute a bit of time in San Diego with his family.

Jim Harbaugh has one of the best staff's in I-AA football - at least in my opinion. Check out his link and I think you will be impressed by who is on his staff and their experience. The reason I bring up his staff? Because like you said our schedule should be WAY better with who is on the staff...

http://usdtoreros.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/usd-m-footbl-mtt.html#coaches


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GOTOREROS
October 17th, 2006, 01:17 AM
By the way in case you hadn't heard, November is "USD month" on AGS! Sorry I couldn't resist....:D

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Death Dealer
October 17th, 2006, 09:42 AM
Well a scholarship at USD with full coast of attendance is about 42k a year, so if you had 63 of them that is 2.6 million alone in scholarships.

I really wish we could get the school to go towards an NEC setup which is more likely.....or even the Patriot model.

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By the time you throw in all the costs, we are right there with you...college football at this level is an expensive hobby.xlolx xlolx xlolx

nmatsen
October 17th, 2006, 09:57 AM
What common opponents of fully funded teams does SD play, for example this weekend SD plays at Drake, #13 Northern Iowa (a proven I-AA power) played at Drake earlier this year and won 52-17. Is it fair to compare the two scores after the game. Are there any other teams on SD's schedule that we can do that with?

Dane96
October 17th, 2006, 10:03 AM
No...I never think it is good to compare two scores from one common opponent. There are SO MANY FACTORS INVOLVED.

If you play 3-5 common opponents...yeah, you can start comparing.

BigApp
October 17th, 2006, 10:56 AM
ahhhh, can't wait for November! MORE San Diego!
:lmao: : retard : :lmao: