JSU at (3) EWU Game Thread

[Screamin_Eagle174]

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Jacksonville State Gamecocks (11-3, 5-3 OVC) at (3) Eastern Washington Eagles (11-2, 8-0 BSC)


Saturday, Dec. 14th, 2013 • 1:00 p.m. Pacific
Roos Field (8,600) • Cheney, Wash.



Series: Never met.


TV: None.
Webcast: ESPN Gameplan and ESPN3
Radio: http://spokaneradio.com/player/kxlxam.html



Eastern will host a game on Saturday, Dec. 14 at 1:05 p.m. Pacific time versus Jacksonville State, which upset sixth-seeded McNeese State 31-10 Saturday in the second round. The game will be televised live on internet-based ESPN3. A year ago, Eastern advanced to the semifinals and won the title in 2010.


Located in Jacksonville, Ala., the Gamecocks are 11-3 overall and pounced Samford 55-14 in the first round on Nov. 30 after receiving an at-large bid to the playoffs. It will be EWU’s first-ever meeting with Jacksonville State, which finished 5-3 in the Ohio Valley Conference under first-year head coach Bill Clark.


Information on tickets for the game at “The Inferno” – where EWU is 23-3 all-time – will be available at: http://goeags.com/ticket/13playoffs (also below). The game will be broadcast live on internet-based ESPN3, and fans may also listen live regionally on 700-AM ESPN and via the web at www.700espn.com.


http://goeags.com/sports/m-footbl/2013-14/Releases/13fbDec7SDSURecap

[swaghook]

Did not think much of JSU until this last round(Had them losing twice already). I think they are going to play spoilers next Saturday.

[eiupantherfan94]

Potentially another OVC rematch if Eastern and J-State both win. That would fall into Eastern's favor :)
That promotional also answered my question of who had the red field in some FCS promotional video that played at the game Saturday. Even more distracting than Boise State's xrolleyesx

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Did not think much of JSU until this last round(Had them losing twice already). I think they are going to play spoilers next Saturday.
xlolx

Because they beat the Mr. Hyde version of McNeese, or because they're playing EWU, a team most NDSU fans are still butthurt over losing to in 2010? xcoffeex

[Darlinikki150]

I find this match up interesting. I don't know much about JSU, how do the teams match up? I know all about EW, but does JSU have the kind of defense to slow them down?

[kalm]

Potentially another OVC rematch if Eastern and J-State both win. That would fall into Eastern's favor :)
That promotional also answered my question of who had the red field in some FCS promotional video that played at the game Saturday. Even more distracting than Boise State's xrolleyesx

Beauty can be distracting...

[dudeitsaid]

Beauty can be distracting...

Funny how much people want to hate on the Inferno. When I first heard the idea, I thought it was nuts. And I hate Boise State's field.

But I fricken love our field. Red is a heck of a lot better of a field than blue for my preference!

[eiupantherfan94]

Funny how much people want to hate on the Inferno. When I first heard the idea, I thought it was nuts. And I hate Boise State's field.

But I fricken love our field. Red is a heck of a lot better of a field than blue for my preference!

I don't hate the red field. I love the unique feel the colored fields bring to college football....but it's still distracting at first:D

[dudeitsaid]

I don't hate the red field. I love the unique feel the colored fields bring to college football....but it's still distracting at first:D

That's cool. It's different for sure. The general reaction is disdain overall.

Good luck next week. I hope Towsen wins, just so we can play at home. But you guys are on a roll. If we could pull it out against J'ville St, it also be pretty cool to see Vernon Adams and Jimmy Garoppolo duke it out!

[Cleets]

I will NOT watch a football game on that atrocity (however) I will be hoping that Eastern plays well

[344Johnson]

Pulling for EWU for a change...Don't like conference matchups in playoffs. Plus EWU vs. EIU seems kinda fun.

[Big_Fan]

I find this match up interesting. I don't know much about JSU, how do the teams match up? I know all about EW, but does JSU have the kind of defense to slow them down?

We have a solid secondary that improved as the year progressed. Our run defense was weak for most of the season but it really improved as the secondary move to move of a man scheme. We played man with 2 deep safeties against McNeese, and our pass efficiency D ranking moved from 7th to 6th. We had 11 sacks and many/most were coverage sacks. The sacks slowed down in the second half when we played more zone and conceded short throws.

With Eli at QB we are a run first offense. Eli is improving at throwing the ball, but he is not as good as our #2 QB who has not played in weeks due to a shoulder injury. He is probably healthy now, but not likely to play.

We have one RB who is really fast (Pope), another who is an absolute beast RB and will run over, around, or through defenders (James). Our QB is very fast, and a threat to score from anywhere on the field.

Our lines are a bit undersized, although our noseguard is a hoss. He looks like he hasn't missed many meals, but he deceptively quick and plays like somebody stole his chicken leg and he thinks it was your QB. He will require a double team.

Our special teams are very good. Our punter and kicker are among the nation's best at any level. Cover and return teams are solid...Punt return defense is not great but not terrible - that stat is somewhat skewed because our punter kicks the ball so far.

To beat us you need a stone wall for a run defense, and corners that can play man. Our receiving corp has suffered numerous losses this season, but I think we have some coming back. rFr Dalton screws broke his collar bone but I saw him dressed out against and had a kick return against Samford. We lost Markis Merrill (real playmaker) for the year. I wish we had an update on him.

We have a fast paced offense, and if we can jump on you early, we will... but we also have a good power run game and we can control the clock. EW has to weather the storm early and sustain drives. Looking at your defensive stats, that isn't your forte'. The offense will need to help the defense out or we can run them in the ground.

I think this is similar to the McNeese match-up in terms of what we need to do. EW is likely a better team than McNeese. Even if we manage to jump up 21-0, I won't be comfortable until the final horn sounds... Don't get me wrong, I am not expecting for us to run all over EW. We are happy to be here and EW will get our best shot. Whether or not that will be enough will be seen this Saturday.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

I can't pick against EWU! I thought they'd beat SDSU rather easily and they did. Once again I'll go with EWU by 14-17 points. This team is just so much fun to watch. Their offense is like Lehigh's on steroids....

[Big_Fan]

Pulling for EWU for a change...Don't like conference matchups in playoffs. Plus EWU vs. EIU seems kinda fun.

If by fun you mean "what happens when the #103 ranked defense plays the #1 ranked offense?" Then it will be fun.

JSU may not beat EW, but we stand a better chance at knocking off EIU in a rematch than EW does. EW is ranked 113 in pass yards allowed. Garropolo will do mean things to them. EIU plays defense too... their ranking is not terrible and even that is misleading because EIU plays from so far ahead. EIU has scored over 50 points in 7 games this season, and over 40 in 11 games.

EIU vs JSU should be a good game. EIU vs JSU pt.2 is interesting because we have improved so much. EW vs EIU is strength vs weakness. I think EIU will win it all this year... NDSU has a good front so they might slow down EIU enough to beat them, but I would pick EIU at this point.

[dudeitsaid]

Here are some youtube videos to get to know the two teams.

EWU videos and highlights

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwiUog3STew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARfCjV_U0tg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXYQVY6PGCg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rszXQA_GCLo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnSO820ncm8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMIoK3SWrHw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJJ3z2akf90


Jacksonville State videos and highlights

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtKkJs6dC5k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9oQBN_mEMI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk5CXMJJkmw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O54gx4heJAo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFQrFIRI3tc

[dudeitsaid]

If by fun you mean "what happens when the #103 ranked defense plays the #1 ranked offense?" Then it will be fun.

JSU may not beat EW, but we stand a better chance at knocking off EIU in a rematch than EW does. EW is ranked 113 in pass yards allowed. Garropolo will do mean things to them. EIU plays defense too... their ranking is not terrible and even that is misleading because EIU plays from so far ahead. EIU has scored over 50 points in 7 games this season, and over 40 in 11 games.

EIU vs JSU should be a good game. EIU vs JSU pt.2 is interesting because we have improved so much. EW vs EIU is strength vs weakness. I think EIU will win it all this year... NDSU has a good front so they might slow down EIU enough to beat them, but I would pick EIU at this point.

Yep, EWU's defense sucks. And their running game. Their run D is atrocious. There is no way they could ever stop a stout runner. And EWU's offense could never perform against a true defense. They are only good because they go against those big fluffy pseudo defenses. They will be exposed. We've heard it all before. Seems to come up every year. At this point, all of the teams in the field are good. Stats don't tell the whole story.

Beau Baldwin is a solid coach. He will adjust well to whatever team we are playing. And the Eagles will rise to the occasion. I think every game will be a test for EWU. But I think they will have a legitimate chance of winning any of the remaining games they play. As will the Gamecocks.

[Red & Black]

I'm going to go with my first bold prediction of the year: EWU rolls in this one.

[Darlinikki150]

I'm going to go with my first bold prediction of the year: EWU rolls in this one.

Gotta agree Red. EW is tough at home and bit will take an outstanding defense to slow down that offensive Juggernaut.

[Red & Black]

JSU may not beat EW, but we stand a better chance at knocking off EIU in a rematch than EW does.

I think you better worry about EWU before any re-match with EIU.

[Big_Fan]

I think you better worry about EWU before any re-match with EIU.


Hey, I was replying to someone who said they were pulling for EW because they thought EW vs EIU would be fun. I am plenty worried about EW...but it really doesn't matter much since I am just a fan. I don't take any snaps, nor do I call any plays.

[Gil Dobie]

Huge scoring game with EWU scoring more than JSU.

[Cocky]

I think you better worry about EWU before any re-match with EIU.
From a guy who says his team is "going to roll in this one". Sounds like you've already advanced. If Vegas had odds EWU would be a 20 point fav.

[kalm]

I will NOT watch a football game on that atrocity (however) I will be hoping that Eastern plays well

You sir, are regressive, unkind, and lacking in taste.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

If by fun you mean "what happens when the #103 ranked defense plays the #1 ranked offense?" Then it will be fun.

JSU may not beat EW, but we stand a better chance at knocking off EIU in a rematch than EW does. EW is ranked 113 in pass yards allowed. Garropolo will do mean things to them. EIU plays defense too... their ranking is not terrible and even that is misleading because EIU plays from so far ahead. EIU has scored over 50 points in 7 games this season, and over 40 in 11 games.

EIU vs JSU should be a good game. EIU vs JSU pt.2 is interesting because we have improved so much. EW vs EIU is strength vs weakness. I think EIU will win it all this year... NDSU has a good front so they might slow down EIU enough to beat them, but I would pick EIU at this point.

Doesn't mean a whole lot when the bulk of those yards are in the 4th quarter when EWU has the game won. The thing you're forgetting is while our defense gives up a lot if yards, we do so in a conference that outside of EIU, has better offenses, and much better defenses than the OVC. EWU's offense would destroy EIU's D... after we destroy yours.

[Cocky]

Doesn't mean a whole lot when the bulk of those yards are in the 4th quarter when EWU has the game won. The thing you're forgetting is while our defense gives up a lot if yards, we do so in a conference that outside of EIU, has better offenses, and much better defenses than the OVC. EWU's offense would destroy EIU's D... after we destroy yours.
Your odds of beating us aren't too bad. Your odds of beating EIU are slim to none.

[kalm]

Your odds of beating us aren't too bad. Your odds of beating EIU are slim to none.

We're jumping ahead, but why? We've put up similar numbers against a (at best) equal schedule. I think it would be toss up.

[Red & Black]

From a guy who says his team is "going to roll in this one". Sounds like you've already advanced. If Vegas had odds EWU would be a 20 point fav.

Yes, that is my prediction on this game versus JSU. I think JSU has a good team; I think we're better and will win by 14-21 points. That has nothing to do with any potential match-up with EIU, which is what I was commenting on...the poster who was saying we'd have no chance against EIU, which is laughable. My point was let's worry about the game this weekend first.

Please try and keep up.

[grizfan47]

I would not bet against EWU. I was surprised at the lop sided victory over SDSU. Very impressive.

Backing EWU all the way to the championship.

Go Eags!

[SU DOG]

I will certainly admit that I know very little about EWU. As for JSU, however, their defense is now very hard to attack. This team doesn't even resemble the JSU Team that I saw earlier in the season. What is so good about their D is that they can run lock-down with their man coverage with their outstanding DBs. Receivers have a lot of trouble getting separation from these guys. JSU's running game has to be one of the best in all of FCS. They have bruising RBs, and can sub enough to keep in fresh legs. I have no idea how this game will play out, but I wouldn't be predicting a blowout win for Eastern.

[Gamecocks99]

Yes, that is my prediction on this game versus JSU. I think JSU has a good team; I think we're better and will win by 14-21 points. That has nothing to do with any potential match-up with EIU, which is what I was commenting on...the poster who was saying we'd have no chance against EIU, which is laughable. My point was let's worry about the game this weekend first.

Please try and keep up.


Please look over Sam Houston State University's Football Schedule this year and the wons and losses. xeyebrowx
To me it is an eye opener to this weeks game. Maybe all of you can give us some insite to how it helps us understand this weeks game.
Is there a common thread ?




2013 Sam Houston State Bearkats Schedule


DATE
OPPONENT
RESULT/TIME
RECORD/TICKETS


Sat, Aug 31


vs

Houston Baptist (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/2277/houston-baptist-huskies)




W
74-0 (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/ncf/boxscore?id=332432534)


1-0 (0-0)


Sat, Sept 7


@

#7 Texas A&M (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/245/texas-a&m-aggies)




L
65-28 (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/ncf/recap?id=332500245)


1-1 (0-0)


Sat, Sept 14


vs

Texas Southern (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/2640/texas-southern-tigers)




W
55-17 (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/ncf/recap?id=332572534)


2-1 (0-0)


Sat, Sept 21


vs

Incarnate Word (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/2916/incarnate-word-cardinals)




W
52-21 (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/ncf/boxscore?id=332642534)


3-1 (0-0)


Sat, Sept 28


vs

E Washington (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/331/eastern-washington-eagles)




W
49-34 (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/ncf/recap?id=332712534)


4-1 (0-0)


Sat, Oct 12


vs

Lamar (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/2320/lamar-cardinals)




W
14-3 (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/ncf/boxscore?id=332852534)


5-1 (1-0)


Sat, Oct 19


@

McNeese State (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/2377/mcneese-state-cowboys)




L
31-23 (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/ncf/recap?id=332922377)


5-2 (1-1)


Sat, Oct 26


vs

Northwestern St (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/2466/northwestern-state-demons)




W
44-10 (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/ncf/recap?id=332992534)


6-2 (2-1)


Sat, Nov 2


vs

SF Austin (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/2617/stephen-f.-austin-lumberjacks)*




W
56-49 (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/ncf/recap?id=333062617)


7-2 (3-1)


Sat, Nov 9


vs

Nicholls State (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/2447/nicholls-state-colonels)




W
49-24 (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/ncf/recap?id=333132534)


8-2 (4-1)


Sat, Nov 16


@

SE Louisiana (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/2545/southeastern-louisiana-lions)




L
34-21 (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/ncf/recap?id=333202545)


8-3 (4-2)


Sat, Nov 23


@

Cent Arkansas (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/2110/central-arkansas-bears)




L
49-31 (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/ncf/recap?id=333272110)


8-4 (4-3)


Sat, Nov 30


vs

Southern Utah (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/253/southern-utah-thunderbirds)




W
51-20 (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/ncf/recap?id=333342534)


9-4 (4-3)


Sat, Dec 7


@

SE Louisiana (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/2545/southeastern-louisiana-lions)




L
30-29 (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/ncf/recap?id=333412545)


9-5 (4-3)


* Game played at neutral location.

[Catbooster]

Please look over Sam Houston State University's Football Schedule this year and the wons and losses. xeyebrowx
To me it is an eye opener to this weeks game. Maybe all of you can give us some insite to how it helps us understand this weeks game.
Is there a common thread ?



IMO there is no insight to be gained from that. The EWU game was 2 1/2 months ago, the McNeese game almost 2 months ago (I'm no expert on McNeese's season but it sounds like they've been very inconsistent all year).

Just as someone above was saying that JSU is playing way better ball than earlier in the year, so is EWU. The transitive property is not the argument that's going to convince anyone.

[kalm]

IMO there is no insight to be gained from that. The EWU game was 2 1/2 months ago, the McNeese game almost 2 months ago (I'm no expert on McNeese's season but it sounds like they've been very inconsistent all year).

Just as someone above was saying that JSU is playing way better ball than earlier in the year, so is EWU. The transitive property is not the argument that's going to convince anyone.

This. He'd be better of arguing that JSU plays a similar style to SHSU with a running QB and defensive speed. We simply don't match up well against SHSU. Just like JSU doesn't match up well against EIU...and Murray State...

[Big_Fan]

Keep telling yourselves that EW has improved just as much as JSU since the beginning of the season. You might be right.

A team with an entirely new coaching staff who had never coached together (many had never coached college), and 9 new starters on offense including a freshman QB... they wouldn't improve much in 14 games. Nothing to see here. JSU is the same team that lost to Murray, we just don't turn it over as much now. Our defense is the same... offense the same... just like we were when we went to OT against a D2 school. Go ahead and start prepping for EIU. Ignore us.

[Texas]

I was proved wrong with SDSU they are too one sided to not be stopped.
McNeese made our game the game of the year for them. I would take JSU's win over them with a grain of salt. As much as I would like to see EWU lose I don't think they will.


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[kalm]

Keep telling yourselves that EW has improved just as much as JSU since the beginning of the season. You might be right.

A team with an entirely new coaching staff who had never coached together (many had never coached college), and 9 new starters on offense including a freshman QB... they wouldn't improve much in 14 games. Nothing to see here. JSU is the same team that lost to Murray, we just don't turn it over as much now. Our defense is the same... offense the same... just like we were when we went to OT against a D2 school. Go ahead and start prepping for EIU. Ignore us.

Not sure anyone is questioning how much you've improved. I simply brought Murray State as a response to the transitive argument. On the contrary, I think you are a tough matchup for us because of the aforementioned styles and strengths. I don't think anyone is looking past this game.

[DrStrangelove]

I'm gonna go WAAAAYYYY out on a limb here and predict....

the team that scores the most points will win.

[Catbooster]

Keep telling yourselves that EW has improved just as much as JSU since the beginning of the season. You might be right.

A team with an entirely new coaching staff who had never coached together (many had never coached college), and 9 new starters on offense including a freshman QB... they wouldn't improve much in 14 games. Nothing to see here. JSU is the same team that lost to Murray, we just don't turn it over as much now. Our defense is the same... offense the same... just like we were when we went to OT against a D2 school. Go ahead and start prepping for EIU. Ignore us.
Don't get all discouraged on me. I didn't try to argue which team has improved more. I haven't had the opportunity to watch your team through the year so I don't have an opinion on that, although based on what you've said I may be willing to accept that your team has improved more than EWU. Regardless, my point was that SHSU's record for this year is fairly useless, IMO, for making your point.

I was alluding to the point that Kalm made - you probably have more convincing arguments available but they're probably going to require a little more work than using scores from earlier in the year.

[Big_Fan]

Doesn't mean a whole lot when the bulk of those yards are in the 4th quarter when EWU has the game won. The thing you're forgetting is while our defense gives up a lot if yards, we do so in a conference that outside of EIU, has better offenses, and much better defenses than the OVC. EWU's offense would destroy EIU's D... after we destroy yours.


I took a few minutes to examine the almighty Big Sky. I know the source of your overconfidence vis-á-vis SEC-like arrogance is the traditional strength of the conference.

Interesting to look at... the Big Sky has 13 teams.

6 have records of .500 or higher. 5 have winning records. 2 have 10+ wins.

The OVC has 9 teams.

6 have records of .500 or higher. 4 have winning records. 3 have 10+ wins.

The Big Sky is 7-10 against other FCS conference teams.

The OVC is 16-5 against other FCS conference teams.

The Big Sky played 8 games against D2 teams, finishing 7-1, with Northern Colorado losing to CSU-Pueblo

The OVC only played 3 games against D2 teams, finishing 3-0.

Obviously the Big Sky has much better offenses, defenses, and overall teams than the OVC. JSU doesn't stand a chance.

[The Ville]

Big Fan with some nice research there, and I've felt that way too about putting the Big Sky so high, but I also know you can't punish a team for their conference. The other 8 OVC could all be sub .55 and the way EIU is playing I'd still call them a favorite in the playoffs. I don't know who wins, but as the playoffs should be McNeese was tougher than Samford and EWU will be tougher than McNeese, I honestly think it will be one of the best games next round... surprised ESPN passed on giving it one of the main networks.

[Big_Fan]

Big Fan with some nice research there, and I've felt that way too about putting the Big Sky so high, but I also know you can't punish a team for their conference. The other 8 OVC could all be sub .55 and the way EIU is playing I'd still call them a favorite in the playoffs. I don't know who wins, but as the playoffs should be McNeese was tougher than Samford and EWU will be tougher than McNeese, I honestly think it will be one of the best games next round... surprised ESPN passed on giving it one of the main networks.

Agreed...this will be a great game.

I wouldn't doubt they passed on it because of the way the red field looks on TV.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Big Fan with some nice research there, and I've felt that way too about putting the Big Sky so high, but I also know you can't punish a team for their conference. The other 8 OVC could all be sub .55 and the way EIU is playing I'd still call them a favorite in the playoffs. I don't know who wins, but as the playoffs should be McNeese was tougher than Samford and EWU will be tougher than McNeese, I honestly think it will be one of the best games next round... surprised ESPN passed on giving it one of the main networks.

Well said...

Conferences mean nothing once the playoffs start. With 24 teams everyone gets a shot. Conferences are defined by their best, not their worst. With unbalanced schedules even that theory is tested....

[Walkon79]

I would not bet against EWU. I was surprised at the lop sided victory over SDSU. Very impressive.

Backing EWU all the way to the championship.

Go Eags!

Me too, but it hurts a little :(

[Red & Black]

I took a few minutes to examine the almighty Big Sky. I know the source of your overconfidence vis-á-vis SEC-like arrogance is the traditional strength of the conference.

Interesting to look at... the Big Sky has 13 teams.

6 have records of .500 or higher. 5 have winning records. 2 have 10+ wins.

The OVC has 9 teams.

6 have records of .500 or higher. 4 have winning records. 3 have 10+ wins.

The Big Sky is 7-10 against other FCS conference teams.

The OVC is 16-5 against other FCS conference teams.

The Big Sky played 8 games against D2 teams, finishing 7-1, with Northern Colorado losing to CSU-Pueblo

The OVC only played 3 games against D2 teams, finishing 3-0.

Obviously the Big Sky has much better offenses, defenses, and overall teams than the OVC. JSU doesn't stand a chance.

Dude, what's with you? You're pissed that someone is picking against your team? Good grief.

[Red & Black]

I took a few minutes to examine the almighty Big Sky. I know the source of your overconfidence vis-á-vis SEC-like arrogance is the traditional strength of the conference.

Interesting to look at... the Big Sky has 13 teams.

6 have records of .500 or higher. 5 have winning records. 2 have 10+ wins.

The OVC has 9 teams.

6 have records of .500 or higher. 4 have winning records. 3 have 10+ wins.

The Big Sky is 7-10 against other FCS conference teams.

The OVC is 16-5 against other FCS conference teams.

The Big Sky played 8 games against D2 teams, finishing 7-1, with Northern Colorado losing to CSU-Pueblo

The OVC only played 3 games against D2 teams, finishing 3-0.

Obviously the Big Sky has much better offenses, defenses, and overall teams than the OVC. JSU doesn't stand a chance.

Throw all the crap away, because it is meaningless at this point. Your comparative analysis means very little at this stage of the playoffs, because every team left is a good one, regardless of their conference. The OVC has done well this season, and the Big Sky has been down some. Has very little to do with this game, because you aren't playing any of those teams.

[Big_Fan]

Dude, what's with you? You're pissed that someone is picking against your team? Good grief.


Picking against? Absolutely not... EW is the 3 seed and should be favored to win. They are a great team.

Discounting as an easy win while projecting an air of superiority? Maybe...

Sorry, I thought this was a message forum where we discussed what / how / why. I like stats, trends, and data. It isn't fool proof, but it provides good fodder for discussion.

[Big_Fan]

Throw all the crap away, because it is meaningless at this point. Your comparative analysis means very little at this stage of the playoffs, because every team left is a good one, regardless of their conference. The OVC has done well this season, and the Big Sky has been down some. Has very little to do with this game, because you aren't playing any of those teams.

I don't disagree with you.
I was replying to one of your brethren who said:

" The thing you're forgetting is while our defense gives up a lot if yards, we do so in a conference that outside of EIU, has better offenses, and much better defenses than the OVC. EWU's offense would destroy EIU's D... after we destroy yours."

You may destroy our defense, but I doubt it. I think it will be a good game. If you beat us, I don't think a game with EW vs EIU will be close. JSU stands a much better chance of keeping it close... but as big of a homer as I am, I don't believe we could win barring something flukish happening...injuries or turnovers...random earthquakes at just the right time...solar eclipse affecting gravity... the second coming of Christ...Vogon destructor fleet... maybe a combination of all of those.

[kalm]

I don't disagree with you.
I was replying to one of your brethren who said:

" The thing you're forgetting is while our defense gives up a lot if yards, we do so in a conference that outside of EIU, has better offenses, and much better defenses than the OVC. EWU's offense would destroy EIU's D... after we destroy yours."

You may destroy our defense, but I doubt it. I think it will be a good game. If you beat us, I don't think a game with EW vs EIU will be close. JSU stands a much better chance of keeping it close... but as big of a homer as I am, I don't believe we could win barring something flukish happening...injuries or turnovers...random earthquakes at just the right time...solar eclipse affecting gravity... the second coming of Christ...Vogon destructor fleet... maybe a combination of all of those.



Thats a good start...you gave up 52 to the only offense similar to EWU's and that was toward the end of the season. Why do you think you'd have a "much better chance" against them than EWU?

[colonelblitz]

Don't worry EWU the game is in the bag....... xlolx Just remember to put those little red glasses on the gamecocks so they can't see the blood... xnodx Must admit I'm not a fan of the red field, like the green myself.. Watched your game last week, nice QB.. Better have more than him..xcoolx JSU wins...xbowx

[kalm]

Don't worry EWU the game is in the bag....... xlolx Just remember to put those little red glasses on the gamecocks so they can't see the blood... xnodx Must admit I'm not a fan of the red field, like the green myself.. Watched your game last week, nice QB.. Better have more than him..xcoolx JSU wins...xbowx

ummm...if you watched the game last week you would have seen our QB have his lowest full game passing yards ever and our rushing offense go for almost 300 against a very solid MVFC D.

[colonelblitz]

ummm...if you watched the game last week you would have seen our QB have his lowest full game passing yards ever and our rushing offense go for almost 300 against a very solid MVFC D.
Let me correct myself, I watched what was left of your game. Watched the entire EIU game and the JSU game. Then what was left of the Sam Houston game... Your game fell in there somewhere.. :) Love the internet.. Still don't like the red field, but love the EASTERN across the front of the jerseys...:)

[Big_Fan]

Thats a good start...you gave up 52 to the only offense similar to EWU's and that was toward the end of the season. Why do you think you'd have a "much better chance" against them than EWU?


The 52 points we gave up to EIU is a good example of how scoreboards don't always tell the tale. EIU didn't do their damage through the air... it was on the ground... and it really wasn't that simple. It was an early avalanche caused by a series of disasters in the first quarter. It really doesn't matter because we got waxed... no different than your loss to Sam Houston that one of your fans attributed to it being too hot. That said, this is what happened...

The preface to the game...we were preparing for a shoot-out and started our passing QB. The gameplan was built around him, but the game ended up being played in 35mph winds. EIU won the toss, deferred, and had the wind to their backs. Defensively, we were prepared for their passing game...but they ran all over us.

This is how it began...Throwing into the wind, we threw 2 incomplete passes. On 3rd and 10, the blitz caught our QB from behind. He fumbled and EIU had the ball at our 15. Max was actually injured on that play and while he played a bit more in the first half (not the second), he was ineffective. 4 plays later it was 7-0 and just over 1 minute was gone in the game. We then had a drive to the 40 and punted. EIU with the wind drove and scored in 3 minutes. We got the ball back, but had to punt after a 5 play drive...but the wind caught the punt and it only went 24 yards (we have a GREAT punter). We were completely discombobulated and EIU ran the ball down our throats for another TD just 9 minutes into the game. We were in panic mode and throwing into the wind we stopped the clock with incompletions.... We went 3 & out and into the wind our punt went 15 yards. Devoid of time to make adjustments, the defense didn't have it together... EIU scored again... 12 minutes into the 1st quarter it was 28-0. Another three and out and then EIU had a 4 play drive capped by a 57 yard TD RUN.

End of 1 quarter it was 35-0.

We made adjustments and managed to slow them down, but they were so far ahead they mainly ran the ball... but it was a horrific start that killed us - much like we did to EKU and Samford. The coaches made significant adjustments to the run defense after that game and it has payed dividends. I would love to see a rematch with them. We will probably lose, but it won't be as ugly. We have played them before and learned from it... a lot of people here point to that game (not the EKU game) as the turning point that got us to the quarterfinals. The team that beat EKU to death would probably have lost to McNeese. Eli (who was a safety in the spring) has settled down and is a much better passer than he was even a month ago. Our defense is not as bad as they played in that game... McNeese and Samford are good offensive teams and we stoned them.

Adams is a good QB - very good... but I think Garroppolo is in a different league. There is no comparison between a 5'11/180 soph and a 6'2/220 Senior. Garoppolo is rated by some as the #3 qb in this year's draft, and predicted to go on the first day. It isn't really fair to compare them at this point. Adams is probably a little better at scrambling, but not much.

One reason I don't think EW can come close to repeating what EIU did, is that your defense isn't remotely close to being in the same league as EIU's, and our offense has improved a lot over the past month. It was the offenses' inability to gain first downs in the wind storm that set the stage for the blowout against EIU. We could have run the ball on them, but I think our coaches had already conceded that we needed to go into the game throwing every down if we were going to stand a chance. I don't see us doing that with EW, and I think our secondary will slow down your passing game.

[Big_Fan]

Just found out that we are sending the pep band! We can't send the entire marching band because of the cost and logistics of moving 430 members plus support staff, but we are sending ~100 members. If you like marching bands, search "Marching Southerners" on youtube. JSU has one of the best marching band programs in the nation.

[Thumper76]

MVFC> OVC (EIU not included)

EWU> MVFC (NDSU not included)

Therefore EWU wins going away in the second half again.

[Cocky]

Thats a good start...you gave up 52 to the only offense similar to EWU's and that was toward the end of the season. Why do you think you'd have a "much better chance" against them than EWU?
Similiar offenses but EWU isn't in EIUs class. EIU is extremely good.

[Red & Black]

Similiar offenses but EWU isn't in EIUs class. EIU is extremely good.

Please explain. Our QB has the same number of passing TD's, more rushing TD's, more rushing yards. We have the best WR in the FCS...a punishing running game. Dude, seriously, I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about and my guess is your tune it going to quickly change come Saturday.

[Cocky]

Please explain. Our QB has the same number of passing TD's, more rushing TD's, more rushing yards. We have the best WR in the FCS...a punishing running game. Dude, seriously, I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about and my guess is your tune it going to quickly change come Saturday.

i would say you have no idea, but time will tell who has an idea.

[Red & Black]

i would say you have no idea, but time will tell who has an idea.

Ok, well explain how EIU's is "in a different class" than EIU's, then:

EIU #2 in total offense.
EWU #4 in total offense.
Jacksonville State #28 in total offense.

It looks like it's EWU's offense is the one that's in a different class...a different class than JSU's, that is.

[kalm]

Similiar offenses but EWU isn't in EIUs class. EIU is extremely good.

xlolx

[msupokes1]

JSU's pass defense is really good. There run defense is ok. They took us out of the run early. There offense is ok but nothing really special. If EWU sticks to the run game and doesn't fall behind they should be ok. EWU needs to have a better game plan than we did. The run game was there but our coaches insisted on trying to pass. In the first series of the game we ran twice and picked up something like 20 yards and then insisted on passing the next 3 downs.

[Thumper76]

Well EWU is not afraid to run. See the SDSU game.

[skeeveu2]

E is before J so 1 point to EWU
S is before W so 1 point to JSU
W even
= tie JSU wins with FG in OT


"dudes"

[tomq04]

lol @ this thread.

EWU playing their A-game should be winning this game. Or rather, it would appear to be "their game to lose", talking about EIU is for a different thread...next week assuming they win.

I think the top 4 seeds are head and shoulders above the rest of the league and we will actually get a top 4 final four, which statistically must be rare.

[jaxstatealum]

I'm gonna go WAAAAYYYY out on a limb here and predict....

the team that scores the most points will win.

Best prediction yet!!

[Redbirdz]

Don't be surprised if JSU wins this one. They are peaking at just the right time.

[dudeitsaid]

Don't be surprised if JSU wins this one. They are peaking at just the right time.

I won't be surprised by any team that wins at this point in time. JSU is a good team, and they have dismantled two playoff teams, with one on the road. Statistically, they have some great strengths, especially when looking at their defensive and offensive stats in the playoffs. They are hot right now, and very well could win. And I find what they have done to the first two teams on defense, especially one of the highest scoring offenses in the nation very concerning.

I very highly doubt the team and coaching staff are thinking much at all about EIU. Why should they. EIU still has to play Towsen. And they are not guaranteed to win that game, though many seem to think they are. (I've seen two articles now saying the winner will play EIU and then at the end of the sentence state "assuming they beat Towsen".)

Any team that plays at their best will have a solid opportunity to beat the team across from them. EWU has a roster full of playmakers that can step up as needed. And I think the coaching staff does a tremendous job at developing an appropriate game plan for the teams they face. And when that game plan doesn't work out well, they do an even better job of halftime adjustments (see several games this year, including last weeks, or last years game against SHSU for solid examples.)

Congrats to the Gamecocks. You've absolutely proven you deserve to be here. I promise you, that isn't being discounted by the coaching staff.

That being said, I see the Eagles winning at home. But I don't see it being easy. (And I picked Towsen to win as well, sorry.)

[Cocky]

Prediction time:
Turns out easier than first thought
52-21 JSU. EWU scores a few late when the D turns to the prevent.

[kalm]

Prediction time:
Turns out easier than first thought
52-21 JSU. EWU scores a few late when the D turns to the prevent.

xlolx

Calm down now Cocky...let's not get too carried away. JSU looks like a VERY tough out and is playing solid, but you didn't exactly fare so well the last time you faced an offense like this....and that wasn't at the beginning of the season.

[Cocky]

xlolx

Calm down now Cocky...let's not get too carried away. JSU looks like a VERY tough out and is playing solid, but you didn't exactly fare so well the last time you faced an offense like this....and that wasn't at the beginning of the season.

we will not face an offense like EIU until next week.

[Thumper76]

Prediction time:
Turns out easier than first thought
52-21 JSU. EWU scores a few late when the D turns to the prevent.

Man you give me that many points as a spread I am laying my life savings on EWU. Dont forget its going to be a titch colder in Cheney than down south. Ive seen lots of southern teams not handle cold really well.

EWU wins 46-28 pulling away in the second half similar to thw SDSU game.

[Cocky]

Man you give me that many points as a spread I am laying my life savings on EWU. Dont forget its going to be a titch colder in Cheney than down south. Ive seen lots of southern teams not handle cold really well.

EWU wins 46-28 pulling away in the second half similar to thw SDSU game.

21 when I got up 41 now
Yesterday didnt get out of the 30s
Saturday weather is predicted to be low 28 high 34.
We are in North Alabama in the Appalachian Mtn. it a little cooler here than Lower Alabama.

[Thumper76]

21 when I got up 41 now
Yesterday didnt get out of the 30s
Saturday weather is predicted to be low 28 high 34.
We are in North Alabama in the Appalachian Mtn. it a little cooler here than Lower Alabama.

I stand by my prediction either way. Never thought it got that chilly that often south of the mason dixon line

[Big_Fan]

21 when I got up 41 now
Yesterday didnt get out of the 30s
Saturday weather is predicted to be low 28 high 34.
We are in North Alabama in the Appalachian Mtn. it a little cooler here than Lower Alabama.


Yep... and the game against McState was 37 at kickoff and was in the low 30's/ high 20's by the 4th quarter. Kickoff Saturday is early and I would hazard to wager that the 4th quarter temp will be warmer than it was at McState.

[Big_Fan]

I stand by my prediction either way. Never thought it got that chilly that often south of the mason dixon line

Average low in December in J'ville is 32. The low tonight is 26.

I CAN be 60-70 here in December, but it can also be in the teens. Heck, our December record low is -10. I remember that year, it was COLD.

[dudeitsaid]

CCU showed that warm weather teams don't necessary struggle with the cold weather. Jax will be fine. I predict they will be playing at a high level, as will EWU. Currently, weather is predicting cloudy, 34 degrees, and a slight wind. Weather should not be a factor if that holds.

[steelbison]

I don't see how this can be a game. E.Was should win by 3-4 TDs easy...

Cant wait for the Semi's...now that will be a good game!!! Two QB's/teams that can throw it around and score a ton of points!!

[tomq04]

EWU/EIU would be fun in the points department eh?

[dudeitsaid]

I don't see how this can be a game. E.Was should win by 3-4 TDs easy...


I have a feeling McNeese may have thought the same thing...I hope your prediction is correct. Jax can play with complete abandon. They have nothing to lose. They've already outperformed anything they've done in the FCS so far.

[McNeese72]

Don't over look Jax's pass defense. Their secondary is very good especially in man coverage. Two of McNeese's losses this season (counting SLU) were to teams that went man to man coverage in the secondary with good physical DB's and then stacked the line to stop our running game.

Doc

Edit: If Eastern Wash can't run the ball on them, this game is going to get very, very interesting.

[Big_Fan]

]I don't see how this can be a game. E.Was should win by 3-4 TDs easy...[/I]

Cant wait for the Semi's...now that will be a good game!!! Two QB's/teams that can throw it around and score a ton of points!!

LOL.

Not sure what you are looking at... maybe our game with EIU?

I mean, I could say the same thing in reverse... JSU destroyed McState, and EW lost to SHSU. McState was better than SHSU.

I think it is an interesting match-up. EW definitely has a great passing offense. JSU has a great pass defense. Our run defense has been suspect at times, but has shown marked improvement and EW doesn't have the kind of run game that is a threat to run all over us. EW doesn't have a back that can take over a game like Demarcus James can. Forte is a scat back who could give us trouble on the edge, but because we play man, we will be pinching the ends to keep VA in the pocket, and keeping a spy in the middle.

Our passing game is good enough to keep EW honest, and our running game will be the best EW has faced. Demarcus James has almost 1500 yards rushing on the season, and is big, quick, and brutally strong. He is listed at 5'10/220, but that was his freshman size... he is probably closer to 240. When he goes "Beat Mode," he is known to drag half the defense down the field. QB Eli Jenkins has 835 yards rushing, in spite of not being the starting QB for half the season. He is more of a run threat than VA. Troymaine Pope and Miles Jones (#3 and #4 rushers) have combined for more than 1000 yards.

Not to belabor a point, but EW will have what is statistically the 7th best rush defense we have faced this season, the 9th best scoring defense, and what is statistically the 2nd worst pass defense we have faced. While I don't think this necessarily translates into a win for us, it virtually guarantees that we will be able to hold onto the ball to some degree. The longer we have the ball, the less time EW has to score, and while I am not discounting EW's ability to score quickly, I am counter-balancing that with our 6th ranked pass defense slowing them down.

I emphatically say that EW can win this game. I am NOT claiming JSU will run all over EW and blow them out - or that we we totally shut down EW's offense. What I AM saying is that the match-ups are not conducive to EW blowing us out. Drawing comparisons to EIU don't hold water - they have a significantly better defense, and have a much stronger power running game with a 1500 yard RB. Their QB is capable of taking off and running, but 2800 of their rushing yards came from someone other than the QB.

+/- 1 or 2TD margin of victory either way? Possible. 3 TD's? Extremely unlikely. 4 TD's? No.

[Thumper76]

Ummmm EWU put up huge rushing yards against SDSU. Basically they won by running wild. You will be in for a surprise Saturday me thinks.

[dudeitsaid]

We have faced FBS Toledo, SHSU, Cal Poly, Portland State, and Zenner. Any of those could be argued as being as good or better in the rushing dept. And even with that, our rushing D is not great statistically, but higher rated that Jax St. That being said, trust me, stat's don't tell much of the story. And you guys do have a heck of a rushing game! Our D will rise to the occasion.

[mamberso]

If EWU firmly establishes the run, JSU will be in trouble. In JSU's three losses (Murray, Tenn St, and EIU), all three teams beat JSU with the run. JSU's pass defense is pretty solid. The corners will not only play man, but they will play on the line and bump EWU's receivers. They are very good at what they do. Will Vernon Adams be able to hit a deep pass or two to get JSU's corners off the wideouts? McNeese tried to do this early, but it didn't work. Their QB (SLC Offensive POY) threw and interception on his first pass, and was sacked eleven times. Samford was forced to abandon the run early. Their QB (SC POY) was sacked eight times. If EWU cannot run the ball or are forced to abandon the run, things will get very interesting.

JSU's strength on offense is clearly the run. Demarcus James is a great RB who I fully expect to be playing on Sunday in a couple of years. His backup, Troymaine Pope is speedy, but likes to run horizontally way too often, looking for the big play. Eli Jenkins has to be the fastest guy on the team. If he breaks loose out of the box, there is a good chance he is taking it to the house. JSU can pass the ball, but not very efficiently. They like to throw short hook routes, and fly routes down the sideline (especially off play action). Eli has a cannon, but isn't the most accurate passer and occasionally makes questionable decisions. If EWU forces JSU to throw, it could get ugly (as some are predicting).

Should be a good game.

[Big_Fan]

We have faced FBS Toledo, SHSU, Cal Poly, Portland State, and Zenner. Any of those could be argued as being as good or better in the rushing dept. And even with that, our rushing D is not great statistically, but higher rated that Jax St. That being said, trust me, stat's don't tell much of the story. And you guys do have a heck of a rushing game! Our D will rise to the occasion.

Thank you for the compliment at least...I think... stats don't tell the whole story, you are right. Of the teams you named, Portland State is probably the closest to JSU schematically. Our defense is better, and our red zone O and special teams are much better... if PL State had our kicker, or our short yardage offense, they would have beaten Sac State and EW. I wouldn't count on JSU missing fieldgoals and PAT's. We are 58 of 65 in the red zone (89.2%). PL was 40 of 58 (69%) - of the 58 scores, 42 are TD's. PL raked 111th in redzone offense, and their kickers were 3 of 16 on the season. Our kicker is 23 of 30 with 2 over 50 yards...of the 7 misses, 1 was blocked, 1 was over 50, and only 1 was under 40. PL throws the ball more, but we do have 2 games over 300 yards passing.

Nothing I have seen makes me believe that this will be anything other than a good game.

[Big_Fan]

Eli has a cannon, but isn't the most accurate passer and occasionally makes questionable decisions. If EWU forces JSU to throw, it could get ugly (as some are predicting).

Should be a good game.

From what Coach Clark has said, Max is ready to go if needed. I hope he has gotten plenty of practice reps to knock the rust off... and if we have to use him, or OL can give him time - EW does have 29 sacks on the season.

[dudeitsaid]

Nothing I have seen makes me believe that this will be anything other than a good game.

Agreed. And it could go either way. Nothing but respect for you guys. You obviously have a solid team that can win.

[The Ville]

Agreed about this being a great game, I believe it will be up for grabs late in the 4th. I hope these Apps have prepared me for that Washington chill. See you soon Eastern!

[thebootfitter]

I will NOT watch a football game on that atrocity (however) I will be hoping that Eastern plays well
I hate watching [Roos Field] on TV, but I thought it looked really good when I was there for the South Dakota State game last weekend.

[Thumper76]

I hate watching [Roos Field] on TV, but I thought it looked really good when I was there for the South Dakota State game last weekend.

Thou shalt not compliment that field if not an EWU fan xlolx

[Gil Dobie]

EWU 52-28, Jacksonville state will take the early lead and EWU comes from behind to roll up a bunch of points.

[steelbison]

LOL.

Not sure what you are looking at... maybe our game with EIU?

I mean, I could say the same thing in reverse... JSU destroyed McState, and EW lost to SHSU. McState was better than SHSU.

I think it is an interesting match-up. EW definitely has a great passing offense. JSU has a great pass defense. Our run defense has been suspect at times, but has shown marked improvement and EW doesn't have the kind of run game that is a threat to run all over us. EW doesn't have a back that can take over a game like Demarcus James can. Forte is a scat back who could give us trouble on the edge, but because we play man, we will be pinching the ends to keep VA in the pocket, and keeping a spy in the middle.

Our passing game is good enough to keep EW honest, and our running game will be the best EW has faced. Demarcus James has almost 1500 yards rushing on the season, and is big, quick, and brutally strong. He is listed at 5'10/220, but that was his freshman size... he is probably closer to 240. When he goes "Beat Mode," he is known to drag half the defense down the field. QB Eli Jenkins has 835 yards rushing, in spite of not being the starting QB for half the season. He is more of a run threat than VA. Troymaine Pope and Miles Jones (#3 and #4 rushers) have combined for more than 1000 yards.

Not to belabor a point, but EW will have what is statistically the 7th best rush defense we have faced this season, the 9th best scoring defense, and what is statistically the 2nd worst pass defense we have faced. While I don't think this necessarily translates into a win for us, it virtually guarantees that we will be able to hold onto the ball to some degree. The longer we have the ball, the less time EW has to score, and while I am not discounting EW's ability to score quickly, I am counter-balancing that with our 6th ranked pass defense slowing them down.

I emphatically say that EW can win this game. I am NOT claiming JSU will run all over EW and blow them out - or that we we totally shut down EW's offense. What I AM saying is that the match-ups are not conducive to EW blowing us out. Drawing comparisons to EIU don't hold water - they have a significantly better defense, and have a much stronger power running game with a 1500 yard RB. Their QB is capable of taking off and running, but 2800 of their rushing yards came from someone other than the QB.

+/- 1 or 2TD margin of victory either way? Possible. 3 TD's? Extremely unlikely. 4 TD's? No.


Thanks for the analysis....doesnt' matter what stats you throw out...When this game is over you will lose be 3-4 td's... A lot of you don't get it. There are three teams head and shoulders above the rest this year. This weekend will show you what I'm talking about. Your team has had a nice run..congrats..but now it's time for the big boys to take over. Just watch the games and come back monday and we can discuss...

[Red & Black]

LOL.

Not sure what you are looking at... maybe our game with EIU?

I mean, I could say the same thing in reverse... JSU destroyed McState, and EW lost to SHSU. McState was better than SHSU.

I think it is an interesting match-up. EW definitely has a great passing offense. JSU has a great pass defense. Our run defense has been suspect at times, but has shown marked improvement and EW doesn't have the kind of run game that is a threat to run all over us. EW doesn't have a back that can take over a game like Demarcus James can. Forte is a scat back who could give us trouble on the edge, but because we play man, we will be pinching the ends to keep VA in the pocket, and keeping a spy in the middle.

Our passing game is good enough to keep EW honest, and our running game will be the best EW has faced. Demarcus James has almost 1500 yards rushing on the season, and is big, quick, and brutally strong. He is listed at 5'10/220, but that was his freshman size... he is probably closer to 240. When he goes "Beat Mode," he is known to drag half the defense down the field. QB Eli Jenkins has 835 yards rushing, in spite of not being the starting QB for half the season. He is more of a run threat than VA. Troymaine Pope and Miles Jones (#3 and #4 rushers) have combined for more than 1000 yards.

Not to belabor a point, but EW will have what is statistically the 7th best rush defense we have faced this season, the 9th best scoring defense, and what is statistically the 2nd worst pass defense we have faced. While I don't think this necessarily translates into a win for us, it virtually guarantees that we will be able to hold onto the ball to some degree. The longer we have the ball, the less time EW has to score, and while I am not discounting EW's ability to score quickly, I am counter-balancing that with our 6th ranked pass defense slowing them down.

I emphatically say that EW can win this game. I am NOT claiming JSU will run all over EW and blow them out - or that we we totally shut down EW's offense. What I AM saying is that the match-ups are not conducive to EW blowing us out. Drawing comparisons to EIU don't hold water - they have a significantly better defense, and have a much stronger power running game with a 1500 yard RB. Their QB is capable of taking off and running, but 2800 of their rushing yards came from someone other than the QB.

+/- 1 or 2TD margin of victory either way? Possible. 3 TD's? Extremely unlikely. 4 TD's? No.

Should be a fun game. I just don't think citing all these stats will matter that much, since in FCS we there really aren't enough inter-conference games for them to really mean anything. The game could go either way, really, because every team that has made it this far is a good team. JSU deserves some respect for winning two playoff games. Don't take the comments in this thread to heart - I think we all expect a very good team to come into Cheney this weekend. Yes, I expect us to win, but I'll gladly congratulate you guys if you do because it will be because you have the better team. Good luck and Go Eags.

[Big_Fan]

Should be a fun game. I just don't think citing all these stats will matter that much, since in FCS we there really aren't enough inter-conference games for them to really mean anything. The game could go either way, really, because every team that has made it this far is a good team. JSU deserves some respect for winning two playoff games. Don't take the comments in this thread to heart - I think we all expect a very good team to come into Cheney this weekend. Yes, I expect us to win, but I'll gladly congratulate you guys if you do because it will be because you have the better team. Good luck and Go Eags.

I appreciate what you have to say regarding teams being good and deserving of respect, but the comment about stats is kind of curious. I don't really "get it."

Looking at previous results and statistics is how you break down and discuss the games and matchups. If you don't do that, what are forums for? It easily degrades into illiterate arguments by assertion and grunting.

Person X says "I think we win by 30." Person "Y" says "I don't think so and here's why." That is a lot more interesting than "no they won't!"

I have never asserted that JSU will blow out EW or even win the game... I hope we will and think that it is possible. I just don't think the matchup is conducive to a lop-sided blowout by EW. The EIU game was a perfect storm. Perhaps stats matter less because EW has blown people out and given up yards late. JSU has done some of that, but out stats mean less because of the new staff + 9 new starters on offense, and the total redesign of our defense.

In the end, does discussion of stats matter? Does a message forum matter? Not at all... but what do you propose? Sitting in a dark room inflating our sense of self importance and waiting for kickoff?

[kalm]

I appreciate what you have to say regarding teams being good and deserving of respect, but the comment about stats is kind of curious. I don't really "get it."

Looking at previous results and statistics is how you break down and discuss the games and matchups. If you don't do that, what are forums for? It easily degrades into illiterate arguments by assertion and grunting.

Person X says "I think we win by 30." Person "Y" says "I don't think so and here's why." That is a lot more interesting than "no they won't!"

I have never asserted that JSU will blow out EW or even win the game... I hope we will and think that it is possible. I just don't think the matchup is conducive to a lop-sided blowout by EW. The EIU game was a perfect storm. Perhaps stats matter less because EW has blown people out and given up yards late. JSU has done some of that, but out stats mean less because of the new staff + 9 new starters on offense, and the total redesign of our defense.

In the end, does discussion of stats matter? Does a message forum matter? Not at all... but what do you propose? Sitting in a dark room inflating our sense of self importance and waiting for kickoff?

Grunt...yes...snort...

[Grizo406]

I've got a lot of respect for the JSU football program, but EWU wins this one.

That is all.

[Thumper76]

I appreciate what you have to say regarding teams being good and deserving of respect, but the comment about stats is kind of curious. I don't really "get it."

Looking at previous results and statistics is how you break down and discuss the games and matchups. If you don't do that, what are forums for? It easily degrades into illiterate arguments by assertion and grunting.

Person X says "I think we win by 30." Person "Y" says "I don't think so and here's why." That is a lot more interesting than "no they won't!"

I have never asserted that JSU will blow out EW or even win the game... I hope we will and think that it is possible. I just don't think the matchup is conducive to a lop-sided blowout by EW. The EIU game was a perfect storm. Perhaps stats matter less because EW has blown people out and given up yards late. JSU has done some of that, but out stats mean less because of the new staff + 9 new starters on offense, and the total redesign of our defense.

In the end, does discussion of stats matter? Does a message forum matter? Not at all... but what do you propose? Sitting in a dark room inflating our sense of self importance and waiting for kickoff?

It was nicer than saying the teams you played on the whole were weak sauce outside of the two playoff games and EIU, and the teams that they played to give them their inflated stats were weak sauce as well.

[Big_Fan]

It was nicer than saying the teams you played on the whole were weak sauce outside of the two playoff games and EIU, and the teams that they played to give them their inflated stats were weak sauce as well.

How far do you want to carry that? The teams that you played? That is weaker than a transitive argument. 6 of EW's 9 D1 wins were over teams that finished the season .500 or below, and the Big Sky was 7-10 in non-conference FCS games. Maybe EW's stats are inflated from playing just one conference team all season ranked in the top 60 in pass defense - in a conference that was weak relative to other FCS conferences.

I am not making that argument; just pointing out that your comment is "weak sauce." Interesting choice of words btw... Should I have replied "Orly?"

[Thumper76]

I am not making that argument; just pointing out that your comment is "weak sauce." Interesting choice of words btw... Should I have replied [B]"Orly?"[B]
Not sure what an auto parts store has to do with foorball.

[FargoBison]

xlolx

Because they beat the Mr. Hyde version of McNeese, or because they're playing EWU, a team most NDSU fans are still butthurt over losing to in 2010? xcoffeex

Butthurt? I want to play EWU in Frisco....


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[talon38]

LOL.

Not sure what you are looking at... maybe our game with EIU?

I mean, I could say the same thing in reverse... JSU destroyed McState, and EW lost to SHSU. McState was better than SHSU.

I think it is an interesting match-up. EW definitely has a great passing offense. JSU has a great pass defense. Our run defense has been suspect at times, but has shown marked improvement and EW doesn't have the kind of run game that is a threat to run all over us. EW doesn't have a back that can take over a game like Demarcus James can. Forte is a scat back who could give us trouble on the edge, but because we play man, we will be pinching the ends to keep VA in the pocket, and keeping a spy in the middle.

Our passing game is good enough to keep EW honest, and our running game will be the best EW has faced. Demarcus James has almost 1500 yards rushing on the season, and is big, quick, and brutally strong. He is listed at 5'10/220, but that was his freshman size... he is probably closer to 240. When he goes "Beat Mode," he is known to drag half the defense down the field. QB Eli Jenkins has 835 yards rushing, in spite of not being the starting QB for half the season. He is more of a run threat than VA. Troymaine Pope and Miles Jones (#3 and #4 rushers) have combined for more than 1000 yards.

Not to belabor a point, but EW will have what is statistically the 7th best rush defense we have faced this season, the 9th best scoring defense, and what is statistically the 2nd worst pass defense we have faced. While I don't think this necessarily translates into a win for us, it virtually guarantees that we will be able to hold onto the ball to some degree. The longer we have the ball, the less time EW has to score, and while I am not discounting EW's ability to score quickly, I am counter-balancing that with our 6th ranked pass defense slowing them down.

I emphatically say that EW can win this game. I am NOT claiming JSU will run all over EW and blow them out - or that we we totally shut down EW's offense. What I AM saying is that the match-ups are not conducive to EW blowing us out. Drawing comparisons to EIU don't hold water - they have a significantly better defense, and have a much stronger power running game with a 1500 yard RB. Their QB is capable of taking off and running, but 2800 of their rushing yards came from someone other than the QB.

+/- 1 or 2TD margin of victory either way? Possible. 3 TD's? Extremely unlikely. 4 TD's? No.

News flash Chief, you CANNOT compare one team to another as you have been doing for like 100 posts, ALL teams match up differently, that's just how it works when we play football. But hey, keep digging more stats for your JAX boys who will get it handed to them on the REDTURF!! Wow, such a tool.

[Cocky]

News flash Chief, you CANNOT compare one team to another as you have been doing for like 100 posts, ALL teams match up differently, that's just how it works when we play football. But hey, keep digging more stats for your JAX boys who will get it handed to them on the REDTURF!! Wow, such a tool.

Got to love it
don't agree with me then your a tool.

[kalm]

How far do you want to carry that? The teams that you played? That is weaker than a transitive argument. 6 of EW's 9 D1 wins were over teams that finished the season .500 or below, and the Big Sky was 7-10 in non-conference FCS games. Maybe EW's stats are inflated from playing just one conference team all season ranked in the top 60 in pass defense - in a conference that was weak relative to other FCS conferences.

I am not making that argument; just pointing out that your comment is "weak sauce." Interesting choice of words btw... Should I have replied "Orly?"

Yeah I wouldn't make that argument either. You guys are 4th in passing efficiency D. Guess how many OVC teams other than EIU are in the top 50 in passing offense?

Zero.

There are 7 BSC schools that are. We played 5 of them plus one of the best FBS passing attacks in Oregon State. So I hate to break it to ya, but the style and strengths of who teams played influences stats.

Now, back to the conference comparison. You can certainly make the argument that the BSC is a little bit down this year. But other than EIU (nobody is arguing their legitimacy), who else has the OVC beat outside of conference? I see a number of wins against the SWAC, a few DII's, perhaps a couple of MEAC's. By my reckoning, the other best OCC wins are Chatty, Georgia State, and UCA until your most excellent playoff run. Not saying the BSC is much better but with the shortage of SWAC type teams out west, we have a tendency to play many of our OOC's against the MWC, Pac 12, and MVFC (refer back to conference stats).

Another question, if your starting QB struggles, how short is his rope?

[kalm]

Got to love it
don't agree with me then your a tool.

The shortness and chest thumping nature of your posts coupled with the an absence of conference comparative/SOS stats is NOT gonna make Big_Fan happy. Not happy at all....

[Texas]

Are you really comparing our losses to McNeese and a win over EWU as a sure thing?
We had a nearly 100% healthy team when we faced EWU. Our McNeese game we had a more including our best weapon(Flanders) and his back up was banged up as well. Our team relies on running the ball if both of our RBs are banged up you can imagine we weren't too effective.

EWU wins this and I think handily.


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[Red & Black]

Not to nit-pick, but EWU has 10 Division I ones, not 9.


How far do you want to carry that? The teams that you played? That is weaker than a transitive argument. 6 of EW's 9 D1 wins were over teams that finished the season .500 or below, and the Big Sky was 7-10 in non-conference FCS games. Maybe EW's stats are inflated from playing just one conference team all season ranked in the top 60 in pass defense - in a conference that was weak relative to other FCS conferences.

I am not making that argument; just pointing out that your comment is "weak sauce." Interesting choice of words btw... Should I have replied "Orly?"

[tomq04]

Are you really comparing our losses to McNeese and a win over EWU as a sure thing?
We had a nearly 100% healthy team when we faced EWU. Our McNeese game we had a more including our best weapon(Flanders) and his back up was banged up as well. Our team relies on running the ball if both of our RBs are banged up you can imagine we weren't too effective.

EWU wins this and I think handily.


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Holy $%^&

[Texas]

Holy $%^&

I think EWU is overrated but I'm not delusional.


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[ewueagle2010]

Some people here don't seem to understand this thought process but here it goes anyways.

Stats mean jack ***** at this point in the season. These two teams come from two completely different conferences with completely different competition. Different travel plans, different climates, different rivals, etc, etc, etc. NONE OF IT MATTERS!! The best team on Saturday, December 14th, 2013 will win this game. I can say whatever I want about the OVC and JSU fans and others can say what they want about the Big Sky. Fact of the matter is, EWU went 8-0 in the Big Sky. They beat who was on their schedule and I don't think anyone would be stupid enough to argue that their OOC schedule was weak (@Oregon State, Western Oregon, @Toledo, @Sam Houston). Last week, I though it would be a lot closer against SDSU and it wasn't, plain and simple. This week I think it could be close with JSU, but it wouldn't shock me at this point if EWU runs away with it. With each passing week, EWU looks better and better and stats aside, I like their chances against anyone left in the playoffs. That doesn't mean they can't lose, but they've got just a good of a shot as anyone else.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Prediction time:
Turns out easier than first thought
52-21 JSU. EWU scores a few late when the D turns to the prevent.
xlolx

[Big_Fan]

Not to nit-pick, but EWU has 10 Division I ones, not 9.

Since according to the poster I was talking to our wins over Samford and McNeese didn't count, I wasn't including your playoff win either.

[Big_Fan]

Yeah I wouldn't make that argument either. You guys are 4th in passing efficiency D. Guess how many OVC teams other than EIU are in the top 50 in passing offense?

Zero.

There are 7 BSC schools that are. We played 5 of them plus one of the best FBS passing attacks in Oregon State. So I hate to break it to ya, but the style and strengths of who teams played influences stats.

Now, back to the conference comparison. You can certainly make the argument that the BSC is a little bit down this year. But other than EIU (nobody is arguing their legitimacy), who else has the OVC beat outside of conference? I see a number of wins against the SWAC, a few DII's, perhaps a couple of MEAC's. By my reckoning, the other best OCC wins are Chatty, Georgia State, and UCA until your most excellent playoff run. Not saying the BSC is much better but with the shortage of SWAC type teams out west, we have a tendency to play many of our OOC's against the MWC, Pac 12, and MVFC (refer back to conference stats).

Another question, if your starting QB struggles, how short is his rope?

The OVC is 16-5 against other FCS conferences this year, including multiple wins over the SoCon, MVFC, and Southland (by different teams - not just EIU). Yeah, we have a road win over an 8 win SWAC team that may not be worth a whole lot. We did hit Isaiah Crowell so hard that he didn't want to play anymore.

You missed Murray State being top 50 in passing offense. Combined with our postseason games, we have played 5 teams in the top 50 - 4 if you don't want to count Jacksonville U... but JU threw for 261 on 18 of 34 against Delaware in a game that was tied at halftime. Most of JU's yards against us came with the game out of reach. JU couldn't stop the run to save their lives - we had 4 backs with over 100 yards.

Good question regarding the QB. With our offense, you kind of have to define what struggling is... Eli throws enough to keep defenses honest. He has a strong arm, but sometimes is not accurate on the long ball.

Eli's backup (Max Shortell) is a more accurate and experienced QB (former part-time starter at Minnesota), but he is a true pocket passer and doesn't do all the things Eli does. That said, he was the starter against EKU and has two games this season where he threw for over 300 yards. If he gets hot, he can torch a defense...but he will also try to force throws and sometimes makes poor decisions resulting in turnovers.

Because both QB's are experienced and have started games, the coaches will often give them a series or two in the early going regardless of the situation. If Max goes in and has a hot hand, he will stay in for a while. The only question is rust, and the coaches may be slower to put Max in because of that. Eli was the starter in game one but got hurt. Max started for a while and did fantastic at times but would throw an occasional INT (that is one of the factors that cost us in that freakish Murray game)...then he got hurt and Eli was the starter again. Since taking over after Max was hurt, Eli has played really well...Now Max is healthy but hasn't played in a month. Max played against Nebraska in Lincoln and against Iowa at Iowa, so there is no reason to believe that playing at EW will be overwhelming for him if he is pressed into action.

[Rjones61]

Jacksonville state got brutally bent over and destroyed by Eastern Illinois, 52-14. Seriously. POUNDED. You don't call yourself a contender when you have been bent over like that by almost any school. The only possible excuse for this is if you faced a top 10 FBS school or an NFL team. For perspective, That is a score differential worse than Sam Houston vs Texas A&M. And SHSU isn't even in the running!


Eastern Washington is a contender. Jacksonville State is not.

[Big_Fan]

Jacksonville state got brutally bent over and destroyed by Eastern Illinois, 52-14. Seriously. POUNDED. You don't call yourself a contender when you have been bent over like that by almost any school. The only possible excuse for this is if you faced a top 10 FBS school or an NFL team. For perspective, That is a score differential worse than Sam Houston vs Texas A&M. And SHSU isn't even in the running!


Eastern Washington is a contender. Jacksonville State is not.

Yeah... its not like anyone ever got pounded by a good conference opponent and went on to win the national title or anything.

[Cocky]

EWU was beaten by 23 in 10 by a team who was pounded in the playoffs.

[mamberso]

Jacksonville state got brutally bent over and destroyed by Eastern Illinois, 52-14. Seriously. POUNDED. You don't call yourself a contender when you have been bent over like that by almost any school. The only possible excuse for this is if you faced a top 10 FBS school or an NFL team. For perspective, That is a score differential worse than Sam Houston vs Texas A&M. And SHSU isn't even in the running!


Eastern Washington is a contender. Jacksonville State is not.

Zoinks! I guess I will go watch a movie tomorrow afternoon. Any suggestions?

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Zoinks! I guess I will go watch a movie tomorrow afternoon. Any suggestions?

EWU: Road To The Championship is a pretty good one. I could lend you my copy if you'd like. xthumbsupx

[Screamin_Eagle174]

EWU was beaten by 23 in 10 by a team who was pounded in the playoffs.
And that was our only FCS loss that year. Kind of like this year.... xcoffeex

[tomq04]

After some serious discussion between myself and some football fanatic friends we came up with the formula for victory:

The team that footballs the hardest will win.

Obviously 2 teams are coming together to football, but one is definitely going to football harder than the other, and that team will go on to win. EWU has been footballing like crazy lately, but so has JSU, i honestly think EWU gets a few bonus footballs when playing on the red turf, but like always we will see.

VA comes to football, that is one thing we can all agree on!

FOOTBALL!!!

[Bisonwinagn]

Thinking EWU wins this game handily 38-17. Will set up interesting matchup with Towson with the slight edge to EWU.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Gonna go with 44-27 EWU.

[Redbirdz]

JSU wins this one 28-17, goes to Towson for the semis.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

JSU wins this one 28-17, goes to Towson for the semis.

LMFAO. $200 says JSU doesn't hold EWU under 20 points. Deal? xcoffeex

[dudeitsaid]

Weather predicting a potential for snow.

After seeing snow destroy the second half of our 2010 playoff game against NDSU, snow is the last thing I want to see on the field in Cheney. I know it's a different team and a different game. But I hated the way the weather had such a dramatic negative effect on the play of both teams in the half. What were there, like 11 fumbles in the second half?!?

[Twentysix]

Weather predicting a potential for snow.

After seeing snow destroy the second half of our 2010 playoff game against NDSU, snow is the last thing I want to see on the field in Cheney. I know it's a different team and a different game. But I hated the way the weather had such a dramatic negative effect on the play of both teams in the half. What were there, like 11 fumbles in the second half?!?

Idk, but there was one bill fette.. may he burn in hell.

[Red & Black]

JSU wins this one 28-17, goes to Towson for the semis.

Not saying it couldn't happen, especially with poor weather and a bunch of TO's, but what makes you think JSU will hold an offense that is averaging 41 points per game to 17? I think that's a stretch.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

EWU rolls in this game....3 TDs minimum.

[kalm]

Idk, but there was one bill fette.. may he burn in hell.

Bill Fette is a saint! When his time comes, he'll be seated at the left hand of Flying Spaghetti Monster along with Ghandi, Siddhartha Gautauma, and Red Reese!

[Cocky]

Not saying it couldn't happen, especially with poor weather and a bunch of TO's, but what makes you think JSU will hold an offense that is averaging 41 points per game to 17? I think that's a stretch.
Held McNeese to 10 and they avg somewhere around 40.


looked it up 42.5 a shade higher than EWU

[The Ville]

We get it, no one respects JSU or the OVC and the majority believes EWU will win and they all have to add how big like 'handedly, big, rolls, blowout, not even a game'

I'm just ready for the game

[tomq04]

Going with my gut, EWU > 40 JSU <35.
so, 42 to 31

[Twentysix]

Bill Fette is a saint! When his time comes, he'll be seated at the left hand of Flying Spaghetti Monster along with Ghandi, Siddhartha Gautauma, and Red Reese!

May Bill Fette burn you today, and may he show you that he is a scornful lord.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Idk, but there was one bill fette.. may he burn in hell.

I heard that ESPN is majority controlled by the Bill Fetteration, so I'd be careful if I were you. xcoffeex

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Held McNeese to 10 and they avg somewhere around 40.


looked it up 42.5 a shade higher than EWU

So then you should have no problem with a bet then, right? Any amount up to $200 says EWU's offense scores 20 or more today on mighty JSU. xcoffeex

[Cocky]

So then you should have no problem with a bet then, right? Any amount up to $200 says EWU's offense scores 20 or more today on mighty JSU. xcoffeex
Why would I take that bet when I predicted them to score more than 20?
We all understand you like your team. Your prediction just like mine will have little to do with the outcome so big **** you made a prediction.

[UNHWildcat18]

Feel like this one is going to be like the Maine/UNH game close for a bit then EWU wins 40-24

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Why would I take that bet when I predicted them to score more than 20?
We all understand you like your team. Your prediction just like mine will have little to do with the outcome so big **** you made a prediction.

Ahh, I see... you gave us credit for a whole 21. Any amount you want up to $200 says EWU will score over 24 then?

[Red & Black]

Game on, Go Eags.

[centennial]

Touckback!

[dwtime]

#99 on Jacksonville State used too much starch when he washed his uniform......xnodx

[Mr. C]

Huge fumble by Forte for a JSU touchback

[dwtime]

Once they said Jasksonville St. had an excellent FG kicker I knew he was going to miss it, jinxed!

[Mr. C]

Missed field goal for JSU after a conservative 3rd down call and both teams have blown early scoring chances.

[centennial]

Why all this noise on O? Someone needs to control the crowd.

[Mr. C]

Bad matchup for JSU as Cooper Kupp beats a LB for a TD of 28 yards

[Mr. C]

Nice trick play for JSU for the reverse pass TD

[UIWWildthing]

LOVE the gadget play!

[centennial]

JSU might be trouble for Eastern..

[UNHWildcat18]

Anyone notice that smoke show handing out water on the sidelines after the TD? anybody?

[Drblankstare]

Good play. EWU did a decent job of covering it right away

[Twentysix]

That was a great TD play by JSU.

[centennial]

Bahahahaha... Interception!

[Drblankstare]

JSU offense moving the ball well. Mixing it up

[centennial]

Touchdown!!!

[Twentysix]

xsmugx

[Cleets]

It's interesting to watch Eastern Washington be their own worst enemy
A fumble on the 5 yd line and an INT from the 5 as well

They are too loosey goosey and undisciplined and it might cost them

[centennial]

It's interesting to watch Eastern Washington be their own worst enemy
A fumble on the 5 yd line and an INT from the 5 as well

They are too loosey goosey and undisciplined and it might cost them
They look over eager.
Almost intercepted..

[centennial]

Touchdown!

[Twentysix]

TD Jsu

[CPrice91]

Last person to score wins?

[centennial]

Last person to score wins?
If nothing changes I expect the EWU D to be worn out by end of 3rd. O will start making mistakes.

[Twentysix]

If nothing changes I expect the EWU D to be worn out by end of 3rd. O will start making mistakes.

They already are, I expect Jsu to get another int.

[Twentysix]

TD bad guys.

[centennial]

Touchdown.. Adams is keeping them in the game. He is getting hit a lot though.

[caribbeanhen]

Score?

[Mr. C]

Old-fashioned shootout in this one, 21-21 with over two minutes left in the half.

[CPrice91]

Score?

21 all. 2:39 left in the half.

[JayJ79]

half tempted to pull up the espn3 feed. but that hideous field hurts my eyes too much

[UIWWildthing]

Jenkins down after that run, hopefully not serious

[Nickels]

half tempted to pull up the espn3 feed. but that hideous field hurts my eyes too much
EWU's fans are even harder to look at.

[Mr. C]

If nothing changes I expect the EWU D to be worn out by end of 3rd. O will start making mistakes.
EWU's defense already is making mistakes.It can't stop JSU QB Jenkins.

[CPrice91]

Hmm, JState QB hurt. Hopefully can come back.

[Mr. C]

Jenkins already has over 100 yards rushing, but he just got his knee banged up on the last run.

[Southern Bison]

Jenkins is down on the turf after a designed run.

[Twentysix]

Tough luck for JSU.

[Bison56]

EWU's fans are even harder to look at.
xlolx

[centennial]

Jenkins might be done for the game.

[Mr. C]

Halftime

Jacksonville State 21, Eastern Washington 21

- - - Updated - - -


Jenkins might be done for the game.
My hunch says he is back for the second half. He wanted back in there when he was sitting on the training table.

[caribbeanhen]

Thanks to both of u for the score, I'm in pet smart with the misses earning some points so I can watch the next game Haha

[Southern Bison]

EWU has a worse defense than EIU and it's showing against a strong running team just like last night's game. IF EWU survives today, they don't make it to Frisco.

[Mr. C]

Jenkins outplayed Vernon Adams in the first half. Adams had a costly interception in the end zone and the Eagles also had Forte fumble the ball away in the end zone. That could have been 14 more Eagle points. JSU left three points on the field with the missed field goal. We will see if either defense can make adjustments. Impressed by what JSU has done on offense.

[Grizalltheway]

xlolx

Coming from the state that was voted the ugliest in the country.

http://www.wdaz.com/event/article/id/20004/

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Great game so far! Evenly matched teams.

[Mr. C]

EWU has a worse defense than EIU and it's showing against a strong running team just like last night's game. IF EWU survives today, they don't make it to Frisco.
I have thought all along that Towson's offense would be a tough matchup for Eastern Washington's defense.

[Twentysix]

Bison fans in the thread: Oakland is positioned to take down #5 Michigan State right now. 53-50 7 minutes left in the 2nd.

Game is on ESPN2.

[Mr. C]

Still no word on Eli Jenkins playing for JSU in the second half.

- - - Updated - - -


Bison fans in the thread: Oakland is positioned to take down #5 Michigan State right now. 53-50 7 minutes left in the 2nd.

Game is on ESPN2.

???

[Twentysix]

Still waiting for your reply C.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?149396-Round-of-eight-Towson-E-Illinois&p=2073784&viewfull=1#post2073784

[Mr. C]

Jenkins came back to the bench limping as the second half starts with EWU getting the kickoff.

[Twentysix]

Alot of these EWU players look like they used sharpies to draw names on their arms.

[Mr. C]

Still waiting for your reply C.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?149396-Round-of-eight-Towson-E-Illinois&p=2073784&viewfull=1#post2073784
The NCAA record book in the press box last night listed Adrian Peterson as the single-game playoff rushing record holder with 333 yards. What is your problem? Quit trolling on unrelated threads.

[Twentysix]

The NCAA record book in the press box last night listed Adrian Peterson as the single-game playoff rushing record holder with 333 yards. What is your problem? Quit trolling on unrelated threads.

So you just made up the thing about 388?

[Mr. C]

So you just made up the thing about 388?
I never said ANYTHING about 388 yards. Go away, troll.

[Twentysix]

Big JSU reception.

[Mr. C]

I like what Jacksonville State is doing with the Heavy Set on short yardage plays. Unique.

[Southern Bison]

Looks like the loss of Jenkins may not be that big an issue...great QB work by the backup.

[Mr. C]

Shortell has JSU on the move with Jenkins on the sideline on the Gamecocks first drive of the third period.

[Twentysix]

Would be neat for NDSU to get another game against Shortell. He threw 8 passes when NDSU beat up the Goofs in 2011.

Probably won't happen though.

[Mr. C]

Another FG attempt of 27 yards for JSU is good.

Eastern Washington 28, Jacksonville State 24 in the third.

[Southern Bison]

JSU needs to finish every drive with 7 points to win this game...or figure out how to stop EWU on a drive or two.

[Twentysix]

Looks like JSU sent the House. (couldn't help myself)

[UIWWildthing]

JSU needs to finish every drive with 7 points to win this game...or figure out how to stop EWU on a drive or two.
They just may have this drive
Never mind

[Mr. C]

JSU needs to finish every drive with 7 points to win this game...or figure out how to stop EWU on a drive or two.
Well, JSU stopped a third and one right there.

[Mr. C]

EWU gets 18 on 4th and 1

[Twentysix]

Well, JSU stopped a third and one right there.

First down EWU.

[Mr. C]

Very bad pass from Adams is intercepted by JSU. Flag down.

[Twentysix]

They already are, I expect Jsu to get another int.


Called it.

[Mr. C]

Offensive pass interference

[Southern Bison]

EWU gets 18 on 4th and 1

Looked like holding to spring the RB on that 4th down play...great INT by JSU!

[Drblankstare]

What is Adams thinking there? Real bad pass

[Southern Bison]

JSU wasted that INT.

[Twentysix]

Bad guys D held. Unfortunate.

[centennial]

Can't believe they wasted that opportunity.

[DaBizon]

Both defenses need to learn to tackle

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[Thumper76]

Can't believe they wasted that opportunity.

Cause they did it on prupose....

[Southern Bison]

BTW, who is the replay official for this game? If it's Fette, might as well turn it off because he'll screw JSU some way some how & give the game to Ewwww.

[Twentysix]

BTW, who is the replay official for this game? If it's Fette, might as well turn it off because he'll screw JSU some way some how & give the game to Ewwww.

I am reserving hope that Fette will screw EWU. :D

[Twentysix]

Are there no rules regarding jersey size? 99 must be wearing a childs medium.

[Southern Bison]

Good defensive stand by JSU forcing the turnover on downs!

[swaghook]

Chuck the pigskin. :D

[Mr. C]

Another 4th down try by EWU (4th and 11) and this one ends in a JSU stop.

[Twentysix]

This game went from no defense, to only defense.

[UIWWildthing]

Jacksonville St again can't make anything from a defensive stop. Losing Jenkins is starting to hurt them more

[Mr. C]

Near disaster for Ashton Clark on that fumbled punt return deep in EWU territory.

[dwtime]

Wow how did the JSU guy not get that fumble? Huge play.

[Mr. C]

Jacksonville St again can't make anything from a defensive stop. Losing Jenkins is starting to hurt them more
There was a reason the Gamecocks switched to Jenkins as their starting QB.

[Twentysix]

Wow how did the JSU guy not get that fumble? Huge play.

Bill Fette.

[centennial]

Adams took a hit..

[Mr. C]

JSU is starting to get more effective pressure on Adams in the third period. 3rd and long.

[dwtime]

Jacksonville St again can't make anything from a defensive stop. Losing Jenkins is starting to hurt them more

I would venture that JSU would have the lead by now if Jenkins was still in there, it would at least be tied. Huge loss for JSU.

[Mr. C]

Kupp with a leaping catch for 44 yards to the JSU 40 on the post.

[Twentysix]

I would venture that JSU would have the lead by now if Jenkins was still in there, it would at least be tied. Huge loss for JSU.

Probably. It's too bad they lost their QB. He was injured on a clean play though, just bad luck.

[Mr. C]

Eastern Washington 28, Jacksonville State 24 heading to the fourth period

[centennial]

Adams pulling one out of the hat.. again.

[Southern Bison]

EW players keep extending the play with jawing and jabbing...time for the refs to put them in their place.

[Bison56]

Did 99 eat half his jersey?

[thebootfitter]

I never said ANYTHING about 388 yards. Go away, troll.
Ummm... Actually, you did. Probably just a misinterpretation or oversight or something, but I'm kind of curious too.


We have been talking about the playoff rushing record for a single game of 333 yards, set by Adrian Peterson of Georgia Southern against UMass in 1999. West broke Peterson's record and also several records for single-season touchdowns held by Omar Cuff of Delaware from 2007. The 388 is an all-time FCS single-game record for the regular season.

[Mr. C]

Forte on 3rd and 1 is stacked up at the 20

[Southern Bison]

Well done by the JSU corner blitz!!

[Bison56]

Big stop for JSU now can the do something?

[Twentysix]

Did 99 eat half his jersey?

He didn't know you had to put the washer on cold water.

[Mr. C]

Ummm... Actually, you did. Probably just a misinterpretation or oversight or something, but I'm kind of curious too.
Why are we talking about this on an EWU-JSU thread. Someone finds a typo and makes a big deal about it when someone else is posting play-by-play on every play in an entire game? Give me a break.

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A sack on fourth and one comes up big for the JSU defense

[Twentysix]

Huge catch by JSU to the 33.

[Mr. C]

Great catch by Brown of JSU for a 22-yard strike for a first down around the 32.

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JSU needs a TD on this drive

[Twentysix]

Come on JSU!

[Drblankstare]

Kick the FG. Go up by a TD, I guess I'm conservative

[Twentysix]

O.o Shortell is slow.

[Mr. C]

Third and 5 from the 27 for JSU and disaster for the Gamecocks

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Wow. That was a terrible throw.

[GAD]

INT Touchdown!

[dwtime]

Hard to win a quarterfinal game with a backup quarterback, that was an easy pick six.

[Southern Bison]

Now it's time to see what Jax St. is made of...backup QB & down by 11 with 10 minutes left.

[centennial]

They still have a chance.. but as of now it favors EWU.