SDSU at (3) EWU Game Thread

[Screamin_Eagle174]

#13 South Dakota State Jackrabbits (9-4, 5-3 MVFC) at #3 Eastern Washington Eagles (10-2, 8-0 BSC)
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Saturday, Dec. 7, 2013 • 1:00 p.m. Pacific
Roos Field (8,600) • Cheney, Wash.


Series: Never met.
TV: None announced yet.
Webcast: ESPN3
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Eastern Washington University football fans, get ready for the Zach show.


The Eagles will take on South Dakota State this Saturday (Dec. 7) after the Jackrabbits rode a 249-yard performance by running back Zach Zenner for a 26-7 victory over Northern Arizona in the first round of the NCAA Football Championship Subdivision Playoffs on Nov. 30 in Flagstaff, Ariz.


This week’s second-round game will take place at 1 p.m. at Roos Field in Cheney, Wash. Information on tickets for the game at the “Inferno” – where EWU is 22-3 all-time – is available at: http://goeags.com/ticket/13playoffs


Zenner rushed for 249 yards and two touchdowns on 30 carries against NAU as SDSU scored the last 26 points of the game. Zenner knotted the game at 7 with an 87-yard run, then had a 34-yard TD run in the third quarter to give SDSU the lead for good. Zenner, who had 235 of his yards through the first three quarters, had entered the game ranked second in FCS in rushing with 1,695 total and now has 1,944 for the season.


The Jackrabbits had 399 yards of total offense against the Lumberjacks, who finished with 301. Zach Bauman, who was ninth in FCS entering the game with 1,355 yards, had 114 yards in his first 14 carries, but minus 13 on eight carries after that to finish with 101. South Dakota State out-gained NAU 95-7 in the decisive third quarter.


The Jackrabbits are 9-4 on the season after finishing 5-3 in a four-way tie for second in the Missouri Valley Football Conference behind two-time defending FCS Champion North Dakota State (8-0).


More on the Eagles and this week’s game may be found at: http://www.goeags.com.


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Will be updated here.

[centennial]

Looking forward to the game.. SDSU will need to throw more IMO.

[BisonFan02]

If SDSU can find at least some semblance of a passing attack, this game could be interesting.....but they won't (or SDSU needs to hold onto the ball for 40ish TOP). My heart says SDSU, but my brain says EWU (and so does my bracket).

[Texas]

SDSU needs to watch what SHSU did and they have this game easily.

SDSU takes this one in an obvious shoot out.


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[Go Lehigh TU owl]

EWU is one of the elite teams this year imo. SDSU was impressive against NAU but the Eagles are a step up. EWU wins by 14-17 points....

I don't see this as MVFC>BSC. EWU was head and shoulders above everyone in the BSC.....

[DJKyR0]

Let's go Jacks!

[centennial]

EWU is one of the elite teams this year imo. SDSU was impressive against NAU but the Eagles are a step up. EWU wins by 14-17 points....

I don't see this as MVFC>BSC. EWU was head and shoulders above everyone in the BSC.....
Agreed, however SHSU which isn't exactly a passing team took them down. I think it will come down to if SDSU can keep close in 1st half and how its secondary is able to defend Adams. If Sumner is having a good day, I think they have a solid chance. I have them losing a close one but it wouldn't surprise me if they win by 2 touchdowns.

[BisonFan02]

Agreed, however SHSU which isn't exactly a passing team took them down. I think it will come down to if SDSU can keep close in 1st half and how its secondary is able to defend Adams. If Sumner is having a good day, I think they have a solid chance. I have them losing a close one but it wouldn't surprise me if they win by 2 touchdowns.

True, but someone besides Zenner is going to have to do something. SHSU beat EWU at home versus on tampax field and put up 450 on the ground against EWU...SDSU will need about 80ish "Zenners" on the ground to pull this one out. :D

[robsnotes4u]

i have it 42-35 EWU

[Red & Black]

SDSU needs to watch what SHSU did and they have this game easily.

SDSU takes this one in an obvious shoot out.


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A shoot out would not favor SDSU.


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[Texas]

A shoot out would not favor SDSU.


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If Zenner is half as good as Flanders then yes it would.


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[Red & Black]

If Zenner is half as good as Flanders then yes it would.


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The two teams are not comparable. SDSU does not run the option that I saw - they're more just a run it straight at you type offense, vice all the misdirection/wildcat stuff SHSU does. I think they'll need to have a good game from their QB to win...I.E. they'll probably beed to throw the ball more than they want to.


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[Theee Catrabbit]

I'm feeling pretty confident on this one....Jacks by 14......

[Red & Black]

I'm feeling pretty confident on this one....Jacks by 14......

Interested in hearing the rationale behind us losing by 14 at home.


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[Grizzlies82]

This game could be tight for awhile. Though the final score on this one should not be close.
Unlike Northern Arizona, Eastern Washington has an offense and will simply outscore them.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

This game could be tight for awhile. Though the final score on this one should not be close.
Unlike Northern Arizona, Eastern Washington has an offense and will simply outscore them.

Pretty much this. SDSU is bringing a hammer to a gun fight, and not wearing a vest.

[Theee Catrabbit]

Interested in hearing the rationale behind us losing by 14 at home.


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Oh that's easy.....I think we're better and these conversations get pretty old arguing about all week. It's all prettty arbitrary and everyone is just going to say "My team wins...." I simply cut to the chase.....
In the end nothing matters but game day.....

[Red & Black]

Oh that's easy.....I think we're better and these conversations get pretty old arguing about all week. It's all prettty arbitrary and everyone is just going to say "My team wins...." I simply cut to the chase.....

Well that's kind of the point, isn't it? To talk about the game?


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[DJKyR0]

Pretty much this. SDSU is bringing a hammer to a gun fight, and not wearing a vest.

This is as apt an analogy as I can think of. I can see the teams trading blows early but I think EWU creates a gap before halftime and even with superior conditioning and physical play SDSU just can't keep pace. EWU by something like 35-21.

[CPrice91]

First team to not score wins. (Like all EWU games will be unless/until they face NDSU - not saying they will definitely get that far btw).

[Theee Catrabbit]

Well that's kind of the point, isn't it? To talk about the game?


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i did...we win by 14. Our DL spends all day in your backfield and Zenner runs rough shod over you. Pretty simpering really.

[SIUSalukiFan]

What sucks about this game is two very good teams have to face each other so early in the playoffs and the only reason it is happening is because they are both western teams.

I think Eastern Washington wins.

[Twentysix]

I hope SDSU wins. But EWU's rush D needs to be complete **** for that to happen.

[Drblankstare]

No way the Jacks score enough points. I would love if they won, but without a passing game that won't happen, their D isn't that good. I say 38-24 EWU. Hope I'm wrong

[putter]

NAU was so one dimensional it was stupid and the 'Jacks sold out to stop Baumann - it worked. EWU will be be one dimensional and can/will throw all over the place. SDSU will have their hands full. They can win but I don't see it. EWU by at least 10

[Red & Black]

NAU was so one dimensional it was stupid and the 'Jacks sold out to stop Baumann - it worked. EWU will be be one dimensional and can/will throw all over the place. SDSU will have their hands full. They can win but I don't see it. EWU by at least 10

I don't get the one-dimensional thing. We have rushed for over 2,000 yards this season.


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[Screamin_Eagle174]

I don't get the one-dimensional thing. We have rushed for over 2,000 yards this season.


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Exactly, and only like 200 yards less than UM or MSU, but about .5 yards more per carry (5.0ypc) than the Montana schools.

[word]

i have it 42-35 EWU

Your teams are done.

[word]

Exactly, and only like 200 yards less than UM or MSU, but about .5 yards more per carry (5.0ypc) than the Montana schools.

Against what?

Big sky teams? Makes sense.

Ewu 34 sdsu 30

[Twentysix]

Exactly, and only like 200 yards less than UM or MSU, but about .5 yards more per carry (5.0ypc) than the Montana schools.

Are you guys still playing 7 on 7 for conference games? :p

[RabidRabbit]

If NAU is the most defensive team in the league, IMHO, Jacksrabbits play their normal possession game, and control the clock. Jacks D continues with their superior turnover margin, and Rabbits O-line continues to give Zenner/Gandy gaping holes, and Sumner all day to throw.

EWU's offense is a more proficient UND style of offense?

EWU great offense, vs SDSU's take away defense, and SDSU's MVFC leading offense vs EWU's defense. Want to see the results? Go back to SDSU vs EIU last year. Similar situations, similar results.

SDSU comes out of Walk-up Dome with no injuries of note.

Like the Rabbits in this one, and it's not entirely due to the blue and yellow lens xhomerx

[semobison]

The Jacks D turned it up a notch in the 2nd half last night. Not only did they stop the run, they must have had 10 sacks. They need another effort like that to win at EWU.

[kalm]

This is as apt an analogy as I can think of. I can see the teams trading blows early but I think EWU creates a gap before halftime and even with superior conditioning and physical play SDSU just can't keep pace. EWU by something like 35-21.

I looked up the NCAA stats and the big sky conference is ranked ahead of the valley in superior conditioning...on account of all those yards given up...and of course elevation.

[kalm]

The two teams are not comparable. SDSU does not run the option that I saw - they're more just a run it straight at you type offense, vice all the misdirection/wildcat stuff SHSU does. I think they'll need to have a good game from their QB to win...I.E. they'll probably beed to throw the ball more than they want to.


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I think a low scoring game favors the Jack's too...like both teams only scoring in the 30's. So yes, the Jack's might feel the need to throw it more to keep up.

Our run D has improved since we played SHSU - we gave up some yards to the #1 and #3 rushing attacks in the country but were able to effectively shut down Poly when it counted, and PSU hurt us more through the air and with wide receiver screen passes and every other trick play known to man.

And there really is no comparison between SHSU and the Jack's. SDSU looks more like a Montana State, running down hill than using some play action. The first half of our game with the cats could not have gone better for them with 3 long sustained drives for touchdowns and controlling the clock. Problem is, we simply don't need that much clock.

I think this is a good matchup for us.

[Grizalltheway]

EWU is one of the elite teams this year imo. SDSU was impressive against NAU but the Eagles are a step up. EWU wins by 14-17 points....

I don't see this as MVFC>BSC. EWU was head and shoulders above everyone in the BSC.....
Actually they were only 5 points and a flag better than Montana.

[Grizalltheway]

If NAU is the most defensive team in the league, IMHO, Jacksrabbits play their normal possession game, and control the clock. Jacks D continues with their superior turnover margin, and Rabbits O-line continues to give Zenner/Gandy gaping holes, and Sumner all day to throw.

EWU's offense is a more proficient UND style of offense?

EWU great offense, vs SDSU's take away defense, and SDSU's MVFC leading offense vs EWU's defense. Want to see the results? Go back to SDSU vs EIU last year. Similar situations, similar results.

SDSU comes out of Walk-up Dome with no injuries of note.

Like the Rabbits in this one, and it's not entirely due to the blue and yellow lens xhomerx

EIU? UND? Really?xlolx

[kalm]

Actually they were only 5 points and a flag better than Montana.

And we were 10 minutes away from a 25 pt win. You take your moral victory, we'll take our moral blow out and we'll call it good mkay?

[clawman]

At this point in the season teams do what they do. SDSU can't suddenly come up with a passing game, Zenner is their offense. Eastern can not suddenly become a running team, they throw it around... a lot.
In order to win SDSU will have to score more than 40 which hasn't happened too often this year. The biggest problem for the Eagles may be the defense being on the field too long because the offense has the capibility of scoring in less than 1 minute and the D is right back on the field.
May be close in the 1st half then the Eagles shut them down in the 3rd and go ahead by two scores. SDSU offense does not appear to be good at playing catch up football.
Eagles 40+
Rabbits -30

[THE HERD]

[QUOTE=Texas;2063133]If Zenner is half as good as Flanders then yes it would.

Zenner is faster, not as shifty though.. Wouldn't shock me to see him put up 200 plus again, just depends if rabbits can keep it close so they don't have to abandon the run. Flanders is also a better receiver out of the backfield.

[AmsterBison]

SDSU offense does not appear to be good at playing catch up football.
Eagles 40+
Rabbits -30

Well, SDSU is better at playing catch up than they are at not blowing huge leads. :)

[OBC]

Jacks by 7. SDSU's defense will frustrate EWU.

I expect SDSU will take control of the game early but EWU will claw back within a touchdown by the end.
Zenner will get at least 150 yards but Sumner will mix in enough passes to loosen up the EWU defense. The Jacks will also work in a healthy dose of the screen game to Gandy and Rodriguez. Schneider will have a 100+ receiving yards.
The only way I see EWU winning this one is if SDSU throws a pick six or gives up huge special teams plays.

[jacksfan29]

At this point in the season teams do what they do. SDSU can't suddenly come up with a passing game, Zenner is their offense. Eastern can not suddenly become a running team, they throw it around... a lot.
In order to win SDSU will have to score more than 40 which hasn't happened too often this year. The biggest problem for the Eagles may be the defense being on the field too long because the offense has the capibility of scoring in less than 1 minute and the D is right back on the field.
May be close in the 1st half then the Eagles shut them down in the 3rd and go ahead by two scores. SDSU offense does not appear to be good at playing catch up football.
Eagles 40+
Rabbits -30

Sumner had a terrible game passing last night, but to say they have no passing game is pretty funny. But hey, how did the Eagles play in their final game against PSU? I expect Zenner to get over 200 against a below average defense. If Sumner can just put up 150-200 with no mistakes SDSU wins by two scores. Of course that god ugly field may play into the equation. Sad that the NCAA allowed that mess to occur.

PASSING GP Effic Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yds TD Lng Avg/G
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Austin Sumner 12 134.89 210-353-7 59.5 2628 18 60 219.0
Nate Meyer 5 299.60 3-3-0 100.0 32 1 22 6.4
TEAM 10 0.00 0-2-0 0.0 0 0 0 0.0
Total.......... 12 135.51 213-358-7 59.5 2660 19 60 221.7
Opponents...... 12 120.38 207-358-19 57.8 2608 13 73 217.3

[slostang]

SDSU needs to watch what SHSU did and they have this game easily.

SDSU takes this one in an obvious shoot out.


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SHSU attention whoring noted.

[Texas]

SHSU attention whoring noted.
My post is relevant, oh darn try again.

Which is worse Big Sky CJ or Bison. At least Bison have a reason for it with their status of being #1, Big sky not so much. How's CP this year?


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[swaghook]

Looking for the upset special in this one. SDSU has a good enough team to win this one.

[kalm]

Sumner had a terrible game passing last night, but to say they have no passing game is pretty funny. But hey, how did the Eagles play in their final game against PSU? I expect Zenner to get over 200 against a below average defense. If Sumner can just put up 150-200 with no mistakes SDSU wins by two scores. Of course that god ugly field may play into the equation. Sad that the NCAA allowed that mess to occur.

PASSING GP Effic Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yds TD Lng Avg/G
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Austin Sumner 12 134.89 210-353-7 (tel:12134.89210-353-7) 59.5 2628 18 60 219.0 (tel:59.5 26281860219.0)
Nate Meyer 5 299.60 3-3-0 100.0 32 1 22 6.4
TEAM 10 0.00 0-2-0 0.0 0 0 0 0.0
Total.......... 12 135.51 213-358-7 (tel:12135.51213-358-7) 59.5 2660 19 60 221.7 (tel:59.5 26601960 221.7)
Opponents...... 12 120.38 207-358-19 (tel:12120.38 207-358-19) 57.8 2608 13 73 (tel:57.8 26081373) 217.3

So you're going to blame it on the color of that gorgeous field then. Got it.

We've given up 150-200+ to every back we've faced this year lol. In that scenario, Sumner would also need to throw 300 and you'd need to score in the 40's. A shoot out is you're best bet.

[IBleedYellow]

If SDSU's defense played like they did yesterday we will definitely have a football game. VA can't pass or run very well on his back...

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[ValleyTalk]

SDSU is on a roll and played in the best conference in the FCS. They will give EWU fits.

Keep winning SDSU!!!

[slostang]

My post is relevant, oh darn try again.

Which is worse Big Sky CJ or Bison. At least Bison have a reason for it with their status of being #1, Big sky not so much. How's CP this year?


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This thread is a SDSU/EWU thread not a CP/SHSU thread and your post are never relevant. Occasionally funny, but never relevant.

[clawman]

If SDSU's defense played like they did yesterday we will definitely have a football game. VA can't pass or run very well on his back...

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Hasn't tried it yet but he probably couldxblehx
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[Texas]

This thread is a SDSU/EWU thread not a CP/SHSU thread and your post are never relevant. Occasionally funny, but never relevant.

Last time I checked EWU played SHSU this year. EWU got mauled by a highly touted RB. SDSU has a highly touted RB as well, do you see the connection yet?


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[slostang]

Last time I checked EWU played SHSU this year. EWU got mauled by a highly touted RB. SDSU has a highly touted RB as well, do you see the connection yet?


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[RabidRabbit]

Re: SDSU at (3) EWU Game Thread
The Jacks D turned it up a notch in the 2nd half last night. Not only did they stop the run, they must have had 10 sacks. They need another effort like that to win at EWU.


Disagree that Rabbits' D turned it up a notch. That 2nd half D is the Rabbits' norm. They just need quick adaptation to EWU to make it happen vs. EWU.

[Texas]

No, just SHSU whoring. Carry on though, it is amusing.

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[slostang]

Re: SDSU at (3) EWU Game Thread


The Jacks D turned it up a notch in the 2nd half last night. Not only did they stop the run, they must have had 10 sacks. They need another effort like that to win at EWU.


Disagree that Rabbits' D turned it up a notch. That 2nd half D is the Rabbits' norm. They just need quick adaptation to EWU to make it happen vs. EWU.

I agree they did, but I also think knocking their starting QB out of the game helped too.

[Bisonator]

I see this game playing out very similar to the 2010 NDSU/EWU game. SDSU will need to try to control the ball on the ground and add in a few more key passes from Sumner to keep drives alive. Get a lead and grind it out. EWU will need to stop ZZ and hit some big plays and maybe get some TO. If Adams can have success running and passing early they could win easily but I don't see a blowout happening. It'll more then likely come down to a TO or a couple big plays. Should be a good game. I would like to see SDSU win it but I think EWU wins 35-27.

[kalm]

I see this game playing out very similar to the 2010 NDSU/EWU game. SDSU will need to try to control the ball on the ground and add in a few more key passes from Sumner to keep drives alive. Get a lead and grind it out. EWU will need to stop ZZ and hit some big plays and maybe get some TO. If Adams can have success running and passing early they could win easily but I don't see a blowout happening. It'll more then likely come down to a TO or a couple big plays. Should be a good game. I would like to see SDSU win it but I think EWU wins 35-27.

I agree with this.

[CPrice91]

If SDSU's defense played like they did yesterday we will definitely have a football game. VA can't pass or run very well on his back...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwiUog3STew

4 minute mark, 70 yard TD a split second before getting hit. Watching it live I had thought he threw it up while getting hit, but guess I misremembered.


Although, re-watching those highlights, it will be nice to see Eastern playing a team that can actually tackle...

[MSUBobcat]

If SDSU's defense played like they did yesterday we will definitely have a football game. VA can't pass or run very well on his back...

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Agree that this will be a very good game. Also agree that SDSU will spent a good amount of time in the EWU backfield. However, VA is damn elusive, so just getting into the backfield doesn't mean he'll be on his back. That just flushes him out and usually ends up with a decent gain (averages 41 ypg and 4.7 ypc). EWU's run defense will get gashed by ZZ and if he gets over 200 yards, it won't surprise me in the least, but they will need to get some production from the passing game also. EWU WILL score into the 30's, minimum. I don't see a blowout either way unless, EWU gets some early stops or a turnover and goes up by a couple TD's and SDSU is forced to abandon the run and try to keep pace with EWU's offensive machine.

I think they go blow for blow, SDSU with the run, EWU with quick strikes in the air. Tough call.... EWU at home takes it 35-31 in my wild ass guess.

[MSUBobcat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwiUog3STew

4 minute mark, 70 yard TD a split second before getting hit. Watching it live I had thought he threw it up while getting hit, but guess I misremembered.


Although, re-watching those highlights, it will be nice to see Eastern playing a team that can actually tackle...

I was thinking of this exact play after reading that VA can't pass from his back. He got LIT UP and still threw a beautiful strike.

[gotts]

I've got EWU 33-30 in this one. SDSU, with time of possession, will try to neutralize the high flying Eagles offense, but they come up one defensive stop short in this one. If Sumner can be more of a factor against EWU than NAU and take care of the ball, they might squeak one out.

Hard place to go on the road to and win.

[Red & Black]

The only way I see EWU winning this one is if SDSU throws a pick six or gives up huge special teams plays.

Yes, that is clearly the only way. xrolleyesx

[Red & Black]

I see this game playing out very similar to the 2010 NDSU/EWU game. SDSU will need to try to control the ball on the ground and add in a few more key passes from Sumner to keep drives alive. Get a lead and grind it out. EWU will need to stop ZZ and hit some big plays and maybe get some TO. If Adams can have success running and passing early they could win easily but I don't see a blowout happening. It'll more then likely come down to a TO or a couple big plays. Should be a good game. I would like to see SDSU win it but I think EWU wins 35-27.

This is basically how I see it as well. Two really good teams...will come down to who makes the fewest mistakes.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

If SDSU's defense played like they did yesterday we will definitely have a football game. VA can't pass or run very well on his back...

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Wait, you think either of NAU's QBs were mobile, or one of the best QBs in the nation? xlolx

[Screamin_Eagle174]

I agree they did, but I also think knocking their starting QB out of the game helped too.

Or not having their HC on the sideline or lockerroom to call plays, rally the players and make adjustments.

[mmiller_34]

I'm a nervous about this one and, honestly, I don't see SDSU having the firepower to keep up with the Eagles. Sure, our defense is playing much better the past 5 games but keeping EWU in check is a whole different story.

If we're going to win Sumner has to connect on some early passes and establish some kind of threat through the air. Its either hit or miss with Sumner. When he is at his best he gets into a grove with the Pass-Run game... but often times we see Stig & Co go almost strictly run offense (see last nights results; ran the ball 50 times threw it just 15) I've noticed when they do that Sumner gets cold and has a hard time getting into a rhythm with his arm.

I don't know how SDSU will stop EWU. The only positive thing I can think of is that SDSU was able to beat SE Louisiana with their QB Bryan Bennett, who I think, is similar to Vernon Adams.

I don't know, my heart says SDSU, my head says EWU.

[mmiller_34]

I agree they did, but I also think knocking their starting QB out of the game helped too.

I agree with that.

I also think SDSU made some great adjustments to stop the run at halftime. SDSU MADE the lack of Poe be a factor by forcing their run game backward and making the NAU coaches abandon the run. Who knows, maybe even with Poe, NAU wouldnt be able to establish the run in the 2nd half.

Its all speculation. What is clear is that NAU could not stop SDSU's run game; that was the deciding factor because that produced points for SDSU.

[lionsrking2]

it just 15)

I don't know how SDSU will stop EWU. The only positive thing I can think of is that SDSU was able to beat SE Louisiana with their QB Bryan Bennett, who I think, is similar to Vernon Adams.

I don't know, my heart says SDSU, my head says EWU.

Maybe EWU will commit six turnovers and 12 penalties!

[mmiller_34]

Maybe EWU will commit six turnovers and 12 penalties!

Maybe! Mistakes happen.

[clawman]

Last time I checked EWU played SHSU this year. EWU got mauled by a highly touted RB. SDSU has a highly touted RB as well, do you see the connection yet?


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Never thought I would compliment a Texas troll but for the sake of the discussion, this time only.
With all due respect to Zenner, he is not close to the combo of running backs, and QB's SHSU has. Flanders, Bell, Sincere and ?? This combo is greater than the sum if its parts.

[centennial]

Maybe EWU will commit six turnovers and 12 penalties!
Turnovers don't happen on their own unless you were fumbling punt returns and snaps without any pressure. Your team might have committed mistakes but they come from the other team doing something right. If you played SDSU again it would be a toss up, no way is your team outright favorites. You are 70th and SDSU is 77th on Sagarin rankings, overall the teams are close.

[lionsrking2]

Turnovers don't happen on their own unless you were fumbling punt returns and snaps without any pressure. Your team might have committed mistakes but they come from the other team doing something right. If you played SDSU again it would be a toss up, no way is your team outright favorites. You are 70th and SDSU is 77th on Sagarin rankings, overall the teams are close.

Or unless your running back runs into your QB on a read mesh and knocks the ball out of his hands (in plus territory while driving) or QB under throws a wide open receiver in the end zone; or makes a bad read and throws into double coverage. I do give SDSU much credit for stripping our tailback inside the SDSU 10 with us driving for a chance to go up 17-0. They did what they had to do to win the game... We didn't.

And I never said anything about being favored in a rematch ... merely pointing out to MMiller ways in which they could stop EWU - since he compared Adams to Bennett and all.

[srgrizizen]

SDSU is on a roll and played in the best conference in the FCS. They will give EWU fits.

Keep winning SDSU!!!

After the NAU loss, the "best conference in the FCS" is 11-10 vs. the BSC all time in the playoffs. Probably 11-11 after the SDSC vs. EWU game. Doesn't exactly justify the chest pounding megalomania of some delusional posters on this board.:)

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Maybe! Mistakes happen.
Texas, for example. xlolx

[Thumper76]

Or unless your running back runs into your QB on a read mesh and knocks the ball out of his hands (in plus territory while driving) or QB under throws a wide open receiver in the end zone; or makes a bad read and throws into double coverage. I do give SDSU much credit for stripping our tailback inside the SDSU 10 with us driving for a chance to go up 17-0. They did what they had to do to win the game... We didn't.

And I never said anything about being favored in a rematch ... merely pointing out to MMiller ways in which they could stop EWU - since he compared Adams to Bennett and all.

You didnt say anything about being favored, but you pretty well inferred it. Basically it sounds like SDSU did one thing to earn a W and the rest was luck and SELA giving the game away. My goodness, we sure are lucky from looking at our turnover ratio. We have basically lucked our way through the season. Good thing we pray a lot. Maybe we get lucky saturday...

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[lionsrking2]

You didnt say anything about being favored, but you pretty well inferred it. Basically it sounds like SDSU did one thing to earn a W and the rest was luck and SELA giving the game away. My goodness, we sure are lucky from looking at our turnover ratio. We have basically lucked our way through the season. Good thing we pray a lot. Maybe we get lucky saturday...

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Did I mention anything about being lucky?

[Thumper76]

Did I mention anything about being lucky?

Didnt have to say it. When you give credit for only one turnover what else could it be.

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[Grizzlies82]

The Jacks D turned it up a notch in the 2nd half last night. Not only did they stop the run, they must have had 10 sacks. They need another effort like that to win at EWU.

South Dakota State played great yesterday. Zenner is just as good as advertised and far faster than he appears. SDSU's defense played well the entire game. In particular they had a fabulous 4 man pass rush. However, I think the main difference in the second half was Northern Arizona's backup QB. The kid looked like a deer in the headlights the entire time he was out there. He was uncertain when to throw, and was off the mark when he did. He seemed incapable of scrambling even to get back to the line of scrimmage, and seemed oblivious of the concept of "throwing it away". I don't think the Jackrabbits will see that at E. WA. Even if their QB Vernon Adams gets hurt, the EWU backup is capable of hitting their receiver corp. I stand by my earlier prediction. This game should be close for awhile but ultimately the Eagles will pull away for a comfortable win. SDSU has a great team but they're not well built to beat this type of team. EWU's undoing will come from a strong defense combined with a team that can compete in a track meet.

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[Thumper76]

This game does make me nervous from the fact of how fast EWU can score. If they jump out to a big lead this one will get ugly. The Jacks need to be aggressive in their playcalling. At least aggressove for them. If its close I like SDSU. A blowout will be an EWU win. Thankfully the only team to really blow out the Jacks was Nebraska. NDSU game was tight the majority of the game. I think SDSUs defense is mildly underrated by OOC foes. They are nasty. Not many teams hold NDSU to 7 pts the majority of the game. Should be a fun one that is the epitomy of a Big Sky MVFC matchup. Great D and big time running vs super high octain offense.

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[underdawg]

I was thinking of this exact play after reading that VA can't pass from his back. He got LIT UP and still threw a beautiful strike.

Wow EWU lines are very small! EW reminds me of EIU but with very much weaker line play--the EIU QB I think has some pro potential

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Wow EWU lines are very small! EW reminds me of EIU but with very much weaker line play--the EIU QB I think has some pro potential

6'3-4", 300 avg is small?

[slostang]

This game does make me nervous from the fact of how fast EWU can score. If they jump out to a big lead this one will get ugly. The Jacks need to be aggressive in their playcalling. At least aggressove for them. If its close I like SDSU. A blowout will be an EWU win. Thankfully the only team to really blow out the Jacks was Nebraska. NDSU game was tight the majority of the game. I think SDSUs defense is mildly underrated by OOC foes. They are nasty. Not many teams hold NDSU to 7 pts the majority of the game. Should be a fun one that is the epitomy of a Big Sky MVFC matchup. Great D and big time running vs super high octain offense.

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Sounds like Cal Poly belongs in the MVFC because they play physical D and they led the FCS in rushing.

This should be a great game between two programs I respect a lot. I definitely will be watching ESPN 3 for this one.

[kalm]

Wow EWU lines are very small! EW reminds me of EIU but with very much weaker line play--the EIU QB I think has some pro potential

Huh? We're not huge but we go 290, 290, 300, 300, and 305 and finished ahead of SDSU in total rushing.

[lionsrking2]

Didnt have to say it. When you give credit for only one turnover what else could it be.

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Actually I give credit for two, four were poor execution by us. If that's inferred as "luck," you said it, not me. I give great credit to SDSU for not beating themselves ... there's a lot to be said for that.

[SDSUAlum08]

South Dakota State played great yesterday. Zenner is just as good as advertised and far faster than he appears. SDSU's defense played well the entire game. In particular they had a fabulous 4 man pass rush. However, I think the main difference in the second half was Northern Arizona's backup QB. The kid looked like a deer in the headlights the entire time he was out there. He was uncertain when to throw, and was off the mark when he did. He seemed incapable of scrambling even to get back to the line of scrimmage, and seemed oblivious of the concept of "throwing it away". I don't think the Jackrabbits will see that at E. WA. Even if their QB Vernon Adams gets hurt, the EWU backup is capable of hitting their receiver corp. I stand by my earlier prediction. This game should be close for awhile but ultimately the Eagles will pull away for a comfortable win. SDSU has a great team but they're not well built to beat this type of team. EWU's undoing will come from a strong defense combined with a team that can compete in a track meet.


I thought SDSU played about as bad as they could in the first half. Pretty much like dog **** if you ask me.

[Nickels]

Huh? We're not huge but we go 290, 290, 300, 300, and 305 and finished ahead of SDSU in total rushing.
In the Big Fluffy, that isn't difficult. If there's anything I learned about your conference over the last few years it is that no one can play run D.

[kalm]

In the Big Fluffy, that isn't difficult. If there's anything I learned about your conference over the last few years it is that no one can play run D.

You must have missed your game with Poly last year.

[Silenoz]

Hmm, who to root for in this game? I generally never cheer for EWU, but the MVFC + SHSU collective has been especially annoying lately xcoffeex

[slostang]

In the Big Fluffy, that isn't difficult. If there's anything I learned about your conference over the last few years it is that no one can play run D.
How soon we forget that Cal Poly defense held SHSU to 241 yards total offense, 153 yards rushing and 16 points last season.

[Texas]

You must have missed your game with Poly last year.

Still won.


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[Nickels]

How soon we forget that Cal Poly defense held SHSU to 241 yards total offense, 153 yards rushing and 16 points last season.

153 is far from good. Mediocre at best.

[Grizalltheway]

153 is far from good. Mediocre at best.

Against a team that averages 260? Try again champ.

[slostang]

153 is far from good. Mediocre at best.
Really???

it was better than every team on your schedule last year with the exception of NDSU (which was actually in 2013). That includes every Southland team, Baylor and Texas A&M.

in fact Cal Poly held SHSU to less yards than any team you faced last year including NDSU. NDSU was the only D that held SHSU to less points.

[kalm]

Still won.


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Apology accepted.

[Nickels]

Really???

it was better than every team on your schedule last year with the exception of NDSU (which was actually in 2013). That includes every Southland team, Baylor and Texas A&M.
It had more to do with your O using up a lot of clock. We played it slow too. There were fewer plays in that game than most of our others.

Flanders still put up 100 with a 5.9 average.

[slostang]

It had more to do with your O using up a lot of clock. We played it slow too. There were fewer plays in that game than most of our others.

Flanders still put up 100 with a 5.9 average.
Yeah, you averaged a mind blowing 3.8 yards on your 63 plays.

BTW, Cal Poly averaged 5.6 yards on our 69 plays. Cal Poly ran 6 more plays in the 1 minute extra TOP. I see your point.

SHSU was the better team that day and won where it counted, the scoreboard, but to say that no team in the Big Sky plays good run D is just ignorant. The facts do not lie.

[maine612]

EWU 41, SDSU 28. Offense galore...tecmo bowl style....but home team rolls in the second half.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

EWU 41, SDSU 28. Offense galore...tecmo bowl style....but home team rolls in the second half.
This sounds about right.

[Thumper76]

Just out of curiosity do people say this game will be all offense because thegy dont think SDSU has a very good defense or because EWU is an unstoppable force of nature?

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[Thumper76]

After a bit of research I see folks think that EWU will get its ave in points at 40 a game.

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[CPrice91]

Just out of curiosity do people say this game will be all offense because thegy dont think SDSU has a very good defense or because EWU is an unstoppable force of nature?

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They honestly do have an "unstoppable mode" that they can gear into on offense. And listen, I am way down on the Big Sky this year and don't give anyone outside of Eastern a chance to do anything after the second round... but seriously, outside of NDSU I don't think anyone is going to slow them down.

Now, this offense is accompanied by an atrocious defense and it's what will make EWU beatable. Keep pace with every score and hope for a fluke turnover.

[maine612]

They honestly do have a "unstoppable mode" that they can gear into on offense. And listen, I am way down on the Big Sky this year and don't give anyone outside of Eastern a chance to do anything after the second round... but seriously, outside of NDSU I don't think anyone is going to slow them down.

Now, this offense is accompanied by an atrocious defense and it's what will make EWU beatable. Keep pace with every score and hope for a fluke turnover.

Tecmo Bowl...... But seriously, offense seems to be prevalent in the playoffs.

[dgtw]

The winner of this game gets the McNeese State-Jax State winner in the quarterfinals. I heard that if Jax State and SDSU both win, Jax State would host.

Does anyone know if this is true? Did SDSU not put in a bid?

[Red & Black]

The winner of this game gets the McNeese State-Jax State winner in the quarterfinals. I heard that if Jax State and SDSU both win, Jax State would host.

Does anyone know if this is true? Did SDSU not put in a bid?

Considering NAU apparently out-bid them, this could be right.

[swaghook]

Tecmo Bowl...... But seriously, offense seems to be prevalent in the playoffs.

But Defense wins championships. ;)

[Red & Black]

Wow EWU lines are very small! EW reminds me of EIU but with very much weaker line play--the EIU QB I think has some pro potential

What do you consider "very small"?

Two-deep

Tackle:
DeBord - 6'6 290
Curtis - 6'7 290
Rodgers - 6'6 320
Boule - 6'7 290

Guard:
Forgette - 6'4 300
Murphy - 6'4 305
Neary - 6'4 285
Gomez - 6'3 295

Center:
Miller - 6'2 300
Butorac - 6'3 285

[DaBizon]

A couple of those huge hits, like I saw Saturday by SDSU D, and V.A. will be playing from the sidelines.
SD really hard a couple of monstrous hits out there.

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[Red & Black]

A couple of those huge hits, like I saw Saturday by SDSU D, and V.A. will be playing from the sidelines.
SD really hard a couple of monstrous hits out there.

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I'm sure they'll be gunning for him. I'd venture to say that Adams is just a tad bit more elusive than either of the NAU QB's and probably moreso than any QB SDSU has faced this season.

[mmiller_34]

moreso than any QB SDSU has faced this season.

^^ In regards to elusiveness..

Bryan Bennett anyone??

Made this comparison once.. No one besides a SE LA fan responded to me.

[jacksfan29]

My how I'm looking forward to Montana traveling to Fargo.


After the NAU loss, the "best conference in the FCS" is 11-10 vs. the BSC all time in the playoffs. Probably 11-11 after the SDSC vs. EWU game. Doesn't exactly justify the chest pounding megalomania of some delusional posters on this board.:)

[Red & Black]

^^ In regards to elusiveness..

Bryan Bennett anyone??

Made this comparison once.. No one besides a SE LA fan responded to me.

Bennett's a great athlete and QB for sure - he doesn't have the escapability that Adams does, IMO.

[Grizalltheway]

My how I'm looking forward to Montana traveling to Fargo.

Me too. Can't wait to watch Bisonville implode on itself when we walk out with a win.

[mmiller_34]

Bennett's a great athlete and QB for sure - he doesn't have the escapability that Adams does, IMO.

I don't disagree with you. We shall see on Saturday.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Vernon Adams is ridiculously good! I have no dog in the fight but you can't dispute his talents. He's the best I've seen in a few years. Way better pure talent than BLM imo. Not hating at all....xbowx

[Herder]

EWU Scoring quickly, then putting its defense on the field for 8 minute SDSU scoring drives does not favor EWU in a 4 quarter game. SDSU will be stronger in the 4th, so EWU better get a halftime lead. Has anyone hit Adams this year, cause one things for sure, SDSU's gonna hit you. NAU didn't have a QB that wanted much of what SDSU was dishing out last week.

If Adams has time and EWU has some balance, they win. If not, it's a close one. I've got 38-35 SDSU.

[centennial]

Me too. Can't wait to watch Bisonville implode on itself when we walk out with a win.
Think about beating coastal, I am pulling for you guys. Coastal is not the putz that everyone at eGriz thinks they are. There will be plenty of time for smack before the game.

[Herder]

Griz fans might be dreaming of a visit to Fargo, but those fans will be going Postal after a loss to Coastal.

[slostang]

EWU Scoring quickly, then putting its defense on the field for 8 minute SDSU scoring drives does not favor EWU in a 4 quarter game. SDSU will be stronger in the 4th, so EWU better get a halftime lead. Has anyone hit Adams this year, cause one things for sure, SDSU's gonna hit you. NAU didn't have a QB that wanted much of what SDSU was dishing out last week.

If Adams has time and EWU has some balance, they win. If not, it's a close one. I've got 38-35 SDSU.
Cal Poly did and he/they still put up 35 on what I consider a good Cal Poly defense.

[CPrice91]

Cal Poly did and he/they still put up 35 on what I consider a good Cal Poly defense.

As did Portland State (42 points).

[lionsrking2]

Bennett's a great athlete and QB for sure - he doesn't have the escapability that Adams does, IMO.

I dunno, Bennett out rushed Adams 914 to 491 and was only sacked 7 times compared to over 20. And that's with playing with a left knee brace most of the year due to a sprained MCL.


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn6cKnWzxb4

[Texas]

I dunno, Bennett out rushed Adams 914 to 491 and was only sacked 7 times compared to over 20. And that's with playing with a left knee brace most of the year due to a sprained MCL.


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn6cKnWzxb4

Don't tell that to EWU, they will never believe that someone is just as good if not better than Adams.


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[centennial]

Don't tell that to EWU, they will never believe that someone is just as good if not better than Adams.


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Adams is the next Colin Kaepernick.

[Texas]

Adams is the next Colin Kaepernick.

One hit wonder carried by Defense and an offense that made Alex "I check down every play" Smith desirable?


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[centennial]

One hit wonder carried by Defense and an offense that made Alex "I check down every play" Smith desirable?


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You knew where this was going? Just spoiled my fun.

[kalm]

As did Portland State (42 points).

PSU put up 41 but hurt us more through the air and by running far and away the most trick plays I've ever seen in a game. FWIW, PSU is a very talented team who also hung 553 yards on Cal and 511 on Montana.

Montana State is a better example where they ran the ball with success and also used Mcghee's short passing game. They were able to sustain long scoring drives and won TOP 38-22.

But we managed 54 points in those 22 scoring a TD on all 8 possessions while never turning it over or punting.

I hate to be obvious here but TOP is way less important for SDSU than getting stops, turnovers, and hitting us in the passing game.

And to answer a previous question...yes, VA has been lit up all season. He's a pretty tough kid who has shown he's not afraid to take a hit. And for all his scrambling ability, he is definitely a throw first QB.

[RabidRabbit]

Looking ahead to Round 2, SDSU is ranked ahead of Eastern Washington in the Sagarin Ratings. The Jacks are No. 78 in the entire NCAA Division I field, while the Eagles are 91st. EWU is a 1-point favorite when factoring in the home-field advantage.

This is from Terry Vandrevec's blog - http://terryvandrovec.tumblr.com/post/68769160268/week-13-wrap#

[Houndawg]

PSU put up 41 but hurt us more through the air and by running far and away the most trick plays I've ever seen in a game. FWIW, PSU is a very talented team who also hung 553 yards on Cal and 511 on Montana.

Montana State is a better example where they ran the ball with success and also used Mcghee's short passing game. They were able to sustain long scoring drives and won TOP 38-22.

But we managed 54 points in those 22 scoring a TD on all 8 possessions while never turning it over or punting.

I hate to be obvious here but TOP is way less important for SDSU than getting stops, turnovers, and hitting us in the passing game.

And to answer a previous question...yes, VA has been lit up all season. He's a pretty tough kid who has shown he's not afraid to take a hit. And for all his scrambling ability, he is definitely a throw first QB.

How would you compare him with Eric Meyer?

[kalm]

How would you compare him with Eric Meyer?

Thats right, you would have seen Meyer live in 2004.

Meyer threw a tighter ball and was a little more accurate but VA has incredible touch - especially on deep throws. Sometimes you think it's almost a little luck with these as he's he's often off balance and under duress, as he's heaving it up. But he keeps doing it...time and again.

Scrambling wise, they're both amazingly elusive with VA perhaps willing to stay in the pocket a bit longer. VA is definitely faster and perhaps a little more athletic so he gets more rushing yards.

Also keep in mind that I'm comparing a sophomore to a Payton award winner in his junior and senior seasons.

[slostang]

Thats right, you would have seen Meyer live in 2004.

Meyer threw a tighter ball and was a little more accurate but VA has incredible touch - especially on deep throws. Sometimes you think it's almost a little luck with these as he's he's often off balance and under duress, as he's heaving it up. But he keeps doing it...time and again.

Scrambling wise, they're both amazingly elusive with VA perhaps willing to stay in the pocket a bit longer. VA is definitely faster and perhaps a little more athletic so he gets more rushing yards.

Also keep in mind that I'm comparing a sophomore to a Payton award winner in his junior and senior seasons.
I have seen both play in person and it is like comparing a Porche and a Ferrari. Both could take over a game and could beat with both their feet and arms.

Cal Poly's coach Tim Walsh says what makes VA so dangerous is that although he is an incredible athlete he is also smart and can beat with his head.

[clawman]

Adams is the next Colin Kaepernick.

No I would say more similar in size and build to Russell Wilson Seattle Seahawks. Kapernick is big and runs strong, VA runs to extend a play and allow receivers open up.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

No I would say more similar in size and build to Russell Wilson Seattle Seahawks. Kapernick is big and runs strong, VA runs to extend a play and allow receivers open up.

Adams is a pretty slender guy.

This is guy Adams really reminds me of, Hofstra's Rocky Butler.
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4605576229618620&pid=1.7

[BisonBacker]

No way the Jacks score enough points. I would love if they won, but without a passing game that won't happen, their D isn't that good. I say 38-24 EWU. Hope I'm wrong

I agree with this. I'd love to see the Jacks pull it off but don't think it's in the cards for them. I pity the Jacks for Just having to play on that Tampon field!

[CPrice91]

PSU put up 41 but hurt us more through the air and by running far and away the most trick plays I've ever seen in a game. FWIW, PSU is a very talented team who also hung 553 yards on Cal and 511 on Montana.

Montana State is a better example where they ran the ball with success and also used Mcghee's short passing game. They were able to sustain long scoring drives and won TOP 38-22.

But we managed 54 points in those 22 scoring a TD on all 8 possessions while never turning it over or punting.

I hate to be obvious here but TOP is way less important for SDSU than getting stops, turnovers, and hitting us in the passing game.

And to answer a previous question...yes, VA has been lit up all season. He's a pretty tough kid who has shown he's not afraid to take a hit. And for all his scrambling ability, he is definitely a throw first QB.

I was simply referring to who got the most and best hits on VA. Seemed like Cal Poly and PSU, so despite that EWU's offense still put up points in the 30s and 40s.

And as slostang said, CP is a really good defense (frankly the only good one in the BSC), so that 30-some points says a lot.

[srgrizizen]

A couple of those huge hits, like I saw Saturday by SDSU D, and V.A. will be playing from the sidelines.
SD really hard a couple of monstrous hits out there.

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Yeah, nobody in the BSC can hit like the supermen in the MVC, because they don't want to get their tutu's mussed up. NDSU has great players and great coaches, they are deservedly the favorite, but they play the same game as the opposition, only a little bit better. You could put together a highlight reel of hits by Griz LBs this year that no one in the MVC could surpass. Get over yourself. xlolxxlolx

[Grizalltheway]

For anyone who thinks the Griz don't hit hard:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBgu7GtFhGY

[Twentysix]

For anyone who thinks the Griz don't hit hard:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBgu7GtFhGY

You had to go back 4 years to get a big hit

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The holes the BSC teams dig themselves.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=JQy61cahorU

We will even help your qb up after de-cleating him QB.

[Silenoz]

You had to go back 4 years to get a big hit

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The holes the BSC teams dig themselves.

Is this guy in training to replace lakes or what? :|



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owp9zIS0L9s

...or the hit on Saffron, or the hit on that Western Oregon receiver, or the de-cleaters on Akpla and Ellis, etc. etc.

[Twentysix]

Is this guy in training to replace lakes or what? :|

umadbro?

[Silenoz]

umadbro?

I think that answers my question

[KUlawJack]

So this game between EWU and SDSU then.....

[Twentysix]

I think that answers my question

http://www.unixstickers.com/image/cache/data/stickers/meme/troll/Troll-face.sh-600x600.png

Is there a single guy on that 2009 team still playing for the Hannah Montana Bears? Lol.

[CPrice91]

So this game between EWU and SDSU then.....

Maybe they should just start a NDSU-Montana thread now so they can stop hijacking all the other ones....

[Twentysix]

Maybe they should just start a NDSU-Montana thread now so they can stop hijacking all the other ones....

This is too big for one thread. Nothing can contain it! NOTHING!

P.s. Go Jacks!

[tomq04]

Maybe they should just start a NDSU-Montana thread now so they can stop hijacking all the other ones....

LOL

who was dumb enough to let the 2 largest ego's POTENTIALLY play each other. That being said, Go griz this weekend!

[JimmyJack]

I honestly have no idea what to expect here (and I could have said that any one of the last three or four weeks as the Jacks fought to get into the playoffs). I think the MVFC is a tough league, but I don't know much about the Big Sky other than UND and NAU since we have played both of those teams. EWU is obviously very good. So are the Jacks. Relative to each other? Not a clue.

It's football, right? It will come down to big, strong men pushing each other around and smaller, strong men trying to run around or away from them. One team's big and small strong men will make better plays (or fewer mistakes) and they'll win.

What I do know is that playoff football is an awful lot of fun.

[Grizalltheway]

LOL

who was dumb enough to let the 2 largest ego's POTENTIALLY play each other. That being said, Go griz this weekend!

SHSU wouldn't play NDSU until the title game. xcoffeex

[tomq04]

SHSU wouldn't play NDSU until the title game. xcoffeex

i mispoke, the 2nd and 3rd largest ego's :)

SHSU is in a league of their own

[Twentysix]

I honestly have no idea what to expect here (and I could have said that any one of the last three or four weeks as the Jacks fought to get into the playoffs). I think the MVFC is a tough league, but I don't know much about the Big Sky other than UND and NAU since we have played both of those teams. EWU is obviously very good. So are the Jacks. Relative to each other? Not a clue.

It's football, right? It will come down to big, strong men pushing each other around and smaller, strong men trying to run around or away from them. One team's big and small strong men will make better plays (or fewer mistakes) and they'll win.

What I do know is that playoff football is an awful lot of fun.


This post made football sound incredibly gay.

[Jacks02]

Forecast for Cheney, WA. (http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Cheney&state=WA&site=OTX&textField1=47.4875&textField2=-117.575&e=0#.Up0JJ8RDua9)

Friday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 6.
Saturday: Sunny, with a high near 15.

Anyone watch the Youngstown State game a couple of weeks ago in a snowstorm?

I like SDSU's chances.

[underdawg]

Forecast for Cheney, WA. (http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Cheney&state=WA&site=OTX&textField1=47.4875&textField2=-117.575&e=0#.Up0JJ8RDua9)

Friday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 6.
Saturday: Sunny, with a high near 15.

Anyone watch the Youngstown State game a couple of weeks ago in a snowstorm?

I like SDSU's chances.




Yeh i don't think the Bunnies sweat cold weather

[THE HERD]

Just wanted to wish Good Luck to the Rabbits! If this game stays close all game, I honestly believe ZZ could hit 300yds or 60 Zenners however ya wanna look at it.

[clawman]

I agree with this. I'd love to see the Jacks pull it off but don't think it's in the cards for them. I pity the Jacks for Just having to play on that Tampon field!

It does not rub offxlolx

[frozennorth]

i haven't read this thread yet, but would it be fair to say its an NDSU-EWU pissing match?

[clawman]

NDSU is pissing on everyone's thread, whats new

[Iron Eagle]

Reading this topic, it appears most believe that EWU will lose badly to SDSU. I don't know a lot about South Dakota State, but from reading up on them some they appear to be a very solid team that should definitely give EWU a challenge in their opening game. I'm still trying to figure out how we got such a challenging draw for our first game. Anyhow, I really believe this game is going to go down to the wire. Am I missing something, or do most believe we'll get blown out of the water?

[CPrice91]

Reading this topic, it appears most believe that EWU will lose badly to SDSU. I don't know a lot about South Dakota State, but from reading up on them some they appear to be a very solid team that should definitely give EWU a challenge in their opening game. I'm still trying to figure out how we got such a challenging draw for our first game. Anyhow, I really believe this game is going to go down to the wire. Am I missing something, or do most believe we'll get blown out of the water?

I think you're missing something... seems like most people think it'll be "down to the wire," as well.

[JimmyJack]

This post made football sound incredibly gay.

And this post made you sound incredibly homophobic.

[Twentysix]

And this post made you sound incredibly homophobic.

"lol k" said the big strong man.

[centennial]

Reading this topic, it appears most believe that EWU will lose badly to SDSU. I don't know a lot about South Dakota State, but from reading up on them some they appear to be a very solid team that should definitely give EWU a challenge in their opening game. I'm still trying to figure out how we got such a challenging draw for our first game. Anyhow, I really believe this game is going to go down to the wire. Am I missing something, or do most believe we'll get blown out of the water?
I don't think EWU will get blown out. This will be a close game. I've seen a few EWU posters think this is going to a easy game. SDSU is a solid team with a excellent O and D lines. They and SHSU would be the hardest opponents coming out of the non ranked for EWU.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Been reading up on the Maimi (OH) coaching vacancies and it appears Ash and Baldwin are the leading candidates. Any feeling in Cheney if Beau will be leaving?

[Grizalltheway]

Been reading up on the Maimi (OH) coaching vacancies and it appears Ash and Baldwin are the leading candidates. Any feeling in Cheney if Beau will be leaving?

God I hope it's Baldwin.

[centennial]

God I hope it's Baldwin.
That would be epic.

[Red & Black]

Been reading up on the Maimi (OH) coaching vacancies and it appears Ash and Baldwin are the leading candidates. Any feeling in Cheney if Beau will be leaving?

Haven't heard anything. Where did you see that?


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[centennial]

Haven't heard anything. Where did you see that?


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Found it
http://www.miamihawktalk.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=58612&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=575&sid=ab1e36948e537e9d8e39c454e46cf6a6



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Unfortunately, I don't have the best details but it is better than what you losers have been providing!

I'm hearing that we will announce our new coach on Friday and we are down to three choices (2 of the three are FBS heads, one from Montana and the other from the Pacific Northwest...you'll have to do the digging on that). Unsure who the third is.

Take it as you will, but this is what I'm hearing...Friday is the day.



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[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Found it
http://www.miamihawktalk.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=58612&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=575&sid=ab1e36948e537e9d8e39c454e46cf6a6

Yup,

Definitely not trying to stir anything up. Just seeing what the validity of these comments are. Like I said, I definitely believe Ash is a candidate. Someone else brought up the interest in Miami (OH) on another thread last week. Plus, the location, comments, missing his show etc make sense....

[Grizzlies82]

God I hope it's Baldwin.

Perhaps then Ash will move over to Eastern. His wife may like that better than Bozeman.

[geaux_sioux]

If only these two teams had a common opponent this season

[centennial]

If only these two teams had a common opponent this season
Here to brag about the one time this season _ND didn't play badly?

[Red & Black]

Perhaps then Ash will move over to Eastern. His wife may like that better than Bozeman.

No thanks.


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[KUlawJack]

If only these two teams had a common opponent this season

Kind of like NAU and SDSU?

[Red & Black]

Yup,

Definitely not trying to stir anything up. Just seeing what the validity of these comments are. Like I said, I definitely believe Ash is a candidate. Someone else brought up the interest in Miami (OH) on another thread last week. Plus, the location, comments, missing his show etc make sense....

WRT to Baldwin, I guess it's certainly possible and the fact that he's being mentioned (although vaguely) probably lends some creedence to the rumor. I'm not sure how easy a transition it would be for Baldwin coaching in the Midwest, though. He's a PNW guy and his recruiting base is in Washington and California. He was in the Seattle area this weekend watching some high school games so I know he wasn't in Ohio, but it's possible he made a trip out there previously since there's been an opening there for a while.

Ash maybe makes a little more sense since he's from the midwest. I think maybe one of the things that work against him is his age, but who knows. Should be interesting. If Baldwin leaves anytime soon I'd really want to see him go to a Pac-12 school even though that seems unlikely at this point.


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[centennial]

WRT to Baldwin, I guess it's certainly possible and the fact that he's being mentioned (although vaguely) probably lends some creedence to the rumor. I'm not sure how easy a transition it would be for Baldwin coaching in the Midwest, though. He's a PNW guy and his recruiting base is in Washington and California. He was in the Seattle area this weekend watching some high school games so I know he wasn't in Ohio, but it's possible he made a trip out there previously since there's been an opening there for a while.

Ash maybe makes a little more sense since he's from the midwest. I think maybe one of the things that work against him is his age, but who knows. Should be interesting. If Baldwin leaves anytime soon I'd really want to see him go to a Pac-12 school even though that seems unlikely at this point.


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Reading a little more on their board, it seems like the poster is reliable and has a few legit contacts. If they do pick up Baldwin I am guessing they will wait till EWU has finished with playoffs. I know Ash has been leaked on multiple boards talking to schools, seems like he wants the next step up from montana state. Wrt to PAC 12 there is no way that would happen, maybe MW or MAC. He will need to pay his dues.

[geaux_sioux]

Kind of like NAU and SDSU?
And yet a better way to compare the teams than saber rattling.

[Bisonator]

I wouldn't consider UN_ a common "opponent". More like a pot hole or speed bump. Kind of depends on whether you have decent shocks or not as to how much you feel when you roll over them! :D

[Theee Catrabbit]

I wouldn't consider UN_ a common "opponent". More like a pot hole or speed bump. Kind of depends on whether you have decent shocks or not as to how much you feel when you roll over them! :D

You know that comparison does worry me. But not in the way Whioux would like to try and convince people that they still have a semblance of relevancy in a game that includes a ball. It's Stigs inability to continue to step on the jugular. His nice guy mentality and conservative nature can sometimes feed into that 4th Qtr when we get the lead. In the USD game when Wright intercepted the pass with 3:30 minutes to go, Stig was yelling at him to take a knee. Luckily Wright blew by him for the TD return, using the rule of thumb that with 3:30 left you try to make some yardage, had it been 2:00 or less he would have fell to a knee. Talk about a player being aware of the situation and the clock, as well as stabbing in a dagger. Bison and Jacks(and yes Montana fans) know what I'm talking about here. That being said I like the guy, he has had a lot of success in FCS football, when in D2 we played basically to beat the Coyotes and Augie. Now we get in the playoffs, NDSU gives us crap a lot, but we have never been a huge football school until the last decade or so. Stig is definitely part of that, and hopefully he has learned from past playoff games, you need to keep the peddle down until the other coach shrugs his shoulders and pulls his starters.

[Theee Catrabbit]

Reading this topic, it appears most believe that EWU will lose badly to SDSU. I don't know a lot about South Dakota State, but from reading up on them some they appear to be a very solid team that should definitely give EWU a challenge in their opening game. I'm still trying to figure out how we got such a challenging draw for our first game. Anyhow, I really believe this game is going to go down to the wire. Am I missing something, or do most believe we'll get blown out of the water?

I don't think anyone has a clue(once again this is what makes the playoffs so much fun. New opponents and a week of flapping our keyboards at one another!) I also think the contrasting style of these two teams and their respective conferences, as well as fans of both schools and conferences, make this such an interesting matchup for everyone. If SDSU wins then the BSC goes down in flames in everyone's mind, leaving very little in the way for an MVFC championship matchup. If EWU wins then BSC still has life and a great chance to hit another BSC vs MVFC championship. To me right now, it's a coin flip. Does EWU want the ball first? Do the Jacks want it first? Does a quick EWU TD throw SDSU into a panic? Does a ZZ 85 yard TD break the Eagle defensive spirit? Does SDSU slowly plod 7 and 8 minute drives chewing up precious clock? Can EWU's defense stop anybody? Can SDSU's defense stop anybody? Will Zenner have 350 yards? Will VA throw for 500? Turnovers, penalties.........**** it's only TUESDAY!!!!!!!

[Twentysix]

I don't think anyone has a clue(once again this is what makes the playoffs so much fun. New opponents and a week of flapping our keyboards at one another!) I also think the contrasting style of these two teams and their respective conferences, as well as fans of both schools and conferences, make this such an interesting matchup for everyone. If SDSU wins then the BSC goes down in flames in everyone's mind, leaving very little in the way for an MVFC championship matchup. If EWU wins then BSC still has life and a great chance to hit another BSC vs MVFC championship. To me right now, it's a coin flip. Does EWU want the ball first? Do the Jacks want it first? Does a quick EWU TD throw SDSU into a panic? Does a ZZ 85 yard TD break the Eagle defensive spirit? Does SDSU slowly plod 7 and 8 minute drives chewing up precious clock? Can EWU's defense stop anybody? Can SDSU's defense stop anybody? Will Zenner have 350 yards? Will VA throw for 500? Turnovers, penalties.........**** it's only TUESDAY!!!!!!!

It should be a good one, **** the committee/espn for not staggering the games. I'm sure Jack fans would like to watch NDSU v Furman. I sure as hell would like to watch SDSU vs EWU.

[moosbah]

While I see the Jacks giving them a fight for 2/3 of the game, I ultimately see EWU pulling this out. Although based upon their game against a very mediocre Portland State team, they have some issues to deal with to make it much farther in the playoffs.

[Theee Catrabbit]

It should be a good one, **** the committee/espn for not staggering the games. I'm sure Jack fans would like to watch NDSU v Furman. I sure as hell would like to watch SDSU vs EWU.

**** espn for putting it on ESPN3. I have no access. I have to use something called a....ra...ray....ray.....ray-dee-oh.....whatever the hell that thing is........sounds made up xconfusedx

[Thumper76]

**** espn for putting it on ESPN3. I have no access. I have to use something called a....ra...ray....ray.....ray-dee-oh.....whatever the hell that thing is........sounds made up xconfusedx

Perhaps its pronounced with a soft R

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[Thumper76]

And yet a better way to compare the teams than saber rattling.

Wasnt last time....

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[Twentysix]

**** espn for putting it on ESPN3. I have no access. I have to use something called a....ra...ray....ray.....ray-dee-oh.....whatever the hell that thing is........sounds made up xconfusedx

They are listed as being on Gameplan also.

18603

[jacksfan3317]

You say that the Jacks are one dimensional but I dont see it. They are pretty much 50/50 pass-run. They are going to come out like they did in the Nebraska game and confuse the heck out of the little red riding hoods that play on that horrible field. If we wouldnt have changed the gameplan after the first quarter in Lincoln things would have been different.

[Theee Catrabbit]

They are listed as being on Gameplan also.

18603

You complete me.

[KUlawJack]

You say that the Jacks are one dimensional but I dont see it. They are pretty much 50/50 pass-run. They are going to come out like they did in the Nebraska game and confuse the heck out of the little red riding hoods that play on that horrible field. If we wouldnt have changed the gameplan after the first quarter in Lincoln things would have been different.

I like your optimism, but we got our ass kicked in Lincoln. We couldn't get a stop on defense.

[jacksfan3317]

Our defense is a lot different than the fourth week of this year.

[Grizzlies82]

While I see the Jacks giving them a fight for 2/3 of the game, I ultimately see EWU pulling this out. Although based upon their game against a very mediocre Portland State team, they have some issues to deal with to make it much farther in the playoffs.

Eastern Washington can certainly be beat, and Portland State almost pulled it off. However, like several Big Sky teams, Portland State had an explosive offense capable of scoring quickly. EWU scored with 1:45 left in the game. Portland State then responded with another score to regain the lead. Eastern WA then went to length of the field to score a second touchdown in the final two minutes of the game for the win. So if So. Dakota State does have a passing game they will need it if they are to win. Once again, EWU can certainly be beat, yet your offense had better be capable of competing in a track meet.

[RabidRabbit]

Our defense is a lot different than the fourth week of this year.

This is true. SDSU's d has improved dramatically from Sept/Oct to Nov/Dec. However, if EWU proves to have that elusive combination of speed on offense, and a shut-down defense, like Nebraska for the last 3 quarters, then Jacks are in for a tough afternoon/evening.

Based on the games of EWU that I saw or followed (Oregon St. & Portland St.), Eagles are an explosive talented offensive machine, but a really porious defense. EWU wants this game to be a track meet. SDSU will go for the slower, deliberate game. Keep the EWU d on the field, and Jacks should choke a win out here. Jacks D has been fabulous on the turnover margin this season. Jacks continue winning on the TO, and then converting those TO to points, Jacks win.

This is likely the first play-off game for EWU at home, where the weather advantage will actually go to the visitor. Much easier to run to a win than pass an ice brick to a win. Too bad it's only supposed to be cold, rather than windy, snowy and cold. If the latter, definitely have to pick the Jacks for the W.

[jacksfan29]

Here to brag about the one time this season _ND didn't play badly?

Actually they did play badly, till Stig let them back in the game by not continuing to smash the worst defense we saw all year. What I find funny about Whioux fans, playing SDSU to within 7 early in the season seems to be what they hang their hat on. They have no signature wins in FB since moving up. And they only count a win against SDSU and NDSU as signature wins in BB. They refuse to admit that they have been left behind by the other three schools in North and South Dakota.

But hey, they have hockey.

[Thumper76]

Actually they did play badly, till Stig let them back in the game by not continuing to smash the worst defense we saw all year. What I find funny about Whioux fans, playing SDSU to within 7 early in the season seems to be what they hang their hat on. They have no signature wins in FB since moving up. And they only count a win against SDSU and NDSU as signature wins in BB. They refuse to admit that they have been left behind by the other three schools in North and South Dakota.

But hey, they have hockey.

Isnt it called butthockeys?

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[F'N Hawks]

Actually they did play badly, till Stig let them back in the game by not continuing to smash the worst defense we saw all year. What I find funny about Whioux fans, playing SDSU to within 7 early in the season seems to be what they hang their hat on. They have no signature wins in FB since moving up. And they only count a win against SDSU and NDSU as signature wins in BB. They refuse to admit that they have been left behind by the other three schools in North and South Dakota.

But hey, they have hockey.

Left behind? You realize their is no finish line, right? Sit tight, bro.

[Thumper76]

Does this seem like a very similar game to Stanford vs Oregon to anybody else?

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[F'N Hawks]

Does this seem like a very similar game to Stanford vs Oregon to anybody else?

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Probably fair, overall. EWU's offense is not nearly as fast as Oregon's but as far as the "offensive-fast paced team" vs. "slow-down, run-first" team thing goes, yes very similar.

[Red & Black]

Eastern Washington can certainly be beat, and Portland State almost pulled it off. However, like several Big Sky teams, Portland State had an explosive offense capable of scoring quickly. EWU scored with 1:45 left in the game. Portland State then responded with another score to regain the lead. Eastern WA then went to length of the field to score a second touchdown in the final two minutes of the game for the win. So if So. Dakota State does have a passing game they will need it if they are to win. Once again, EWU can certainly be beat, yet your offense had better be capable of competing in a track meet.

Actually, the last TD for EWU was 80 yards with exactly 1 minute left in the game.

[OBC]

Actually, the last TD for EWU was 80 yards with exactly 1 minute left in the game.

Zenner can run quite a few yards in a minute. How many 30+ yard runs has he had this year? He had several long runs against NAU.
SDSU will win this game.

[Red & Black]

Zenner can run quite a few yards in a minute. How many 30+ yard runs has he had this year? He had several long runs against NAU.
SDSU will win this game.

Ok.


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[clawman]

Actually, the last TD for EWU was 80 yards with exactly 1 minute left in the game.
The 80 yd drive took 23 seconds leaving 37 seconds on the clock for PSU to have a chance to score but they did not.

[robsnotes4u]

The 80 yd drive took 23 seconds leaving 37 seconds on the clock for PSU to have a chance to score but they did not.

Watching the game on Gamecast as i watched others on tv or streams, and the last few minutes were absolutely nuts. Talk about quick scoring. Would have been fun to see in person.

[dudeitsaid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv2qrENPAwM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awlDhOBcbhQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnSO820ncm8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwqO-6YovNk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJJ3z2akf90

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rejeMMSIkcM

Just a few highlight videos of each team to get the salivary glands worked up!

[dudeitsaid]

Looking forward to this game. SDSU is a solid team, and definitely one of the toughest teams for any of the seeded teams to play. The Jackrabbits can win this game if they can get Adams rattled enough. I think Zenner will get his yards, and SDSU's offense will be fine against the EWU defense.

It's really about whether they can put points on the board faster than EWU can. SDSU has a solid D who has been opportunistic in regards to turnovers, and if they can pressure Adams well, could make that the EWU downfall. However, they haven't been as solid in keeping their opponents from scoring as one might think, being from the grind it out, TOP minded, defensive powerhouse conference of the MVFC. Of the 24 teams in the playoffs, they are tied for 15th in scoring defense. EWU, not surpisingly, is 23rd of the 24 teams, with CCU being 24th. Interestingly, looking outside the playoffs, Montana, Cal Poly, and NAU were all better in regards to scoring defense, and SUU was tied, despite being in the offense minded, void of defense BSC. And Montana, Cal Poly, and SUU all had those stats playing EWU, who scored 42, 35, and 34 respectively against those teams. Obviously, stats tell very little of the real story, and the way the teams match up on the field will make the bigger difference.

As many have already noted, EWU will attempt to turn this into a track meet. They will try to drive up the score as soon as possible to make SDSU as predictable as possible. If they can get their offense humming, and get the one or two defensive stops they rely on each game, they should pull out the win.

Obvious homer call, but I will take the EWU Eagles 44, SDSU Jackrabbits 35

[kalm]

Probably fair, overall. EWU's offense is not nearly as fast as Oregon's but as far as the "offensive-fast paced team" vs. "slow-down, run-first" team thing goes, yes very similar.

Of course we're not...just like practically every DI team in America. But FTR (not that it matters), we did put up 13 more points against OSU than Oregon and 29 more than Stanford did.

[Hammerhead]

Sagarin predicts EWU wins by 1 or 2 points.
And yet a better way to compare the teams than saber rattling.

[Bisonator]

I would like to watch this game. Hopefully it snows in Cheney and covers that frickin tampon turf. Man that crap is hard on the eyes!

[kalm]

I would like to watch this game. Hopefully it snows in Cheney and covers that frickin tampon turf. Man that crap is hard on the eyes!

Nope. Sunny with a high of 12! Perfect weather to see that awesome turf in all its glory!

[Bisonator]

Nope. Sunny with a high of 12! Perfect weather to see that awesome turf in all its glory!

Damn that's too bad. :(

[LeeshaJo]

So, anyone think the 500 or so people we have confirmed reservations for coming to a show at the theatre during the SDSU game would mind if I ran a internet cord to the sound booth computer and oh I don't know streamed the game, or had my headset on listening to the game, bring my laptop and have it sitting there live streaming, my phone etc...(you know I have options) instead of doing the sound cues (of which there are about 200 in a two hour period)? cheering occasionally? We have two shows this Saturday, the first right during the game :( sadness. I manage a live theatre company and got roped into doing sound for this show. Normally wouldn't be an issue. Get them in the door, then go hide in my office.

I am actually kind of (read very) bummed by this.xsmhx

[Grizzlies82]

So, anyone think the 500 or so people we have confirmed reservations for coming to a show at the theatre during the SDSU game would mind if I ran a internet cord to the sound booth computer and oh I don't know streamed the game, or had my headset on listening to the game, bring my laptop and have it sitting there live streaming, my phone etc...(you know I have options) instead of doing the sound cues (of which there are about 200 in a two hour period)? cheering occasionally? We have two shows this Saturday, the first right during the game :( sadness. I manage a live theatre company and got roped into doing sound for this show. Normally wouldn't be an issue. Get them in the door, then go hide in my office.

I am actually kind of (read very) bummed by this.xsmhx

Maybe if a fire mysteriously broke out in the theater an hour prior to kick off...
** Disclaimer ** Nothing in this post should be taken as a recommendation to impede the beauty of a theatrical production. Actors practice their craft so that they may share the wonders of live theater with the masses. Singers spread joy with their beautiful gifts enriching all of our lives. Further more, "Art is Life", so forth and so on, and arson is considered a crime in several states. Good Luck.

[veinup]

nobody can seriously like that red turf. really its impossible.

44 24 eagles

[I-AA Fan]

I still say the Jacks are the best team in the MVFC this year. This one will be all jacks ...not even close. EWU's offense is not as good as YSU's & look at that result.

[BisonBacker]

That red tampon turf is a crime to all football fans. Anyone having to endure watching a game played on that crap had ought to get a personal apology from the Manufacturer for creating it, the NCAA for allowing it, and from EWU for being stupid enough to order and install it!

[Thumper76]

I still say the Jacks are the best team in the MVFC this year. This one will be all jacks ...not even close. EWU's offense is not as good as YSU's & look at that result.

Wow. Thats a bit much maybe. Love the confidence though.

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[Twentysix]

I still say the Jacks are the best team in the MVFC this year. This one will be all jacks ...not even close. EWU's offense is not as good as YSU's & look at that result.

xrolleyesx

[CPrice91]

Damn that's too bad. :(

Bottle of aspirin usually does the trick. xthumbsupx

[NoDak 4 Ever]

I still say the Jacks are the best team in the MVFC this year. This one will be all jacks ...not even close. EWU's offense is not as good as YSU's & look at that result.

That is such a silly statement.

I sincerely hope the Jack D can shut down Adams. Will be fun to watch for sure.

[kalm]

That red tampon turf is a crime to all football fans. Anyone having to endure watching a game played on that crap had ought to get a personal apology from the Manufacturer for creating it, the NCAA for allowing it, and from EWU for being stupid enough to order and install it!

Stroke of marketing genius! Coaches commented on this week's show again how much brand awareness it has created with recruiting - more so than the Chipper. Kids think it's cool and want to play on the glorious majesty that is Roos Field.

But you you can't truly appreciate its splendor unless you see it in person. And like the Exorcist...it keeps...getting better...every single time you see it!!!

haters gonna hate...

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Stroke of marketing genius! Coaches commented on this week's show again how much brand awareness it has created with recruiting - more so than the Chipper. Kids think it's cool and want to play on the glorious majesty that is Roos Field.

But you you can't truly appreciate its splendor unless you see it in person. And like the Exorcist...it keeps...getting better...every single time you see it!!!

haters gonna hate...

The football equivalent of that person who didn't get enough attention as a kid.

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[NDSUstudent]

I still say the Jacks are the best team in the MVFC this year. This one will be all jacks ...not even close. EWU's offense is not as good as YSU's & look at that result.

Don't even know how you say this with a straight face.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Don't even know how you say this with a straight face.

A YSU fan lashing out at the Bison. They're still butthurt.

[RabidRabbit]

Definitely prefer that SDSU is bringing a "ground and pound" team, with stout D, rather than a pass happy offense to a game played in 0-15 degree weather.

Bet EWU is wishing for that Southland opponent rather than this group from tundra country. xlolx

[Hammerhead]

I didn't think it was too bad in person until it started turning pink during the light snow in our playoff game a few years ago. It looks a lot worse on TV.



I would like to watch this game. Hopefully it snows in Cheney and covers that frickin tampon turf. Man that crap is hard on the eyes!

[344Johnson]

I still say the Jacks are the best team in the MVFC this year. This one will be all jacks ...not even close. EWU's offense is not as good as YSU's & look at that result.

LOL k brah

[kalm]

Definitely prefer that SDSU is bringing a "ground and pound" team, with stout D, rather than a pass happy offense to a game played in 0-15 degree weather.

Bet EWU is wishing for that Southland opponent rather than this group from tundra country. xlolx

Hate to break this to ya, but EWU finished ahead of you in rushing offense at the end of the regular season.

I'd rather have both.

[bisonboone11]

I would like to watch this game. Hopefully it snows in Cheney and covers that frickin tampon turf. Man that crap is hard on the eyes!
It doesn't help that much. I was there in 2010, and the snow just turned it pink.

[Bisonator]

It doesn't help that much. I was there in 2010, and the snow just turned it pink.

Yeah well the pink was a lot easier on the eyes then that frickin glaring inferno!

[F'N Hawks]

Definitely prefer that SDSU is bringing a "ground and pound" team, with stout D, rather than a pass happy offense to a game played in 0-15 degree weather.

Bet EWU is wishing for that Southland opponent rather than this group from tundra country. xlolx

"pass happy offense"? You need to stop reading the Missouri Valley talking points and actually look into things.

[bisonboone11]

Yeah well the pink was a lot easier on the eyes then that frickin glaring inferno!
Haha. Yeah, it is bad.

[KUlawJack]

Hate to break this to ya, but EWU finished ahead of you in rushing offense at the end of the regular season.

I'd rather have both.

Against the tough run defenses in your conference right? Like NAU, UND, etc.? We could do this song and dance all week on multiple fronts.

I'm excited for Saturday and wish I could attend. My wife gave me the GFY when I said I was going to fly out Saturday morning to Spokane and return on Sunday.

[jackrabbit1979]

Hate to break this to ya, but EWU finished ahead of you in rushing offense at the end of the regular season.

I'd rather have both.

Zack Zenner is averaging 277 yards/game vs. Big Sky teams this year. SDSU, as a team, is averaging 321 rushing yards per game against Big Sky competition. One of the two teams SDSU faced, NAU, was the top ranked defensive team in the conference...admittedly, they were middle of the pack in rushing defense.

I think it is safe to assume that SDSU's offensive statistics, rushing specifically, would look a fair bit better playing those defenses week in and week out.

[jackrabbit1979]

I still say the Jacks are the best team in the MVFC this year. This one will be all jacks ...not even close. EWU's offense is not as good as YSU's & look at that result.

Umm, no. The Bison are collectively the best team in the MVFC hands down. Not to say, however, that SDSU wouldn't love another shot at them in Frisco.

[Green1]

Stroke of marketing genius! Coaches commented on this week's show again how much brand awareness it has created with recruiting - more so than the Chipper. Kids think it's cool and want to play on the glorious majesty that is Roos Field.

But you you can't truly appreciate its splendor unless you see it in person. And like the Exorcist...it keeps...getting better...every single time you see it!!!

haters gonna hate...


Oh no! Someone is going "Full Chattown"!

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

For SDSU to win they need to dominate the TOP and keep the ball away from VA. Don't make .mistakes and keep EWU off balance with passing game. They do that and they have a great chance of winning.

[Theee Catrabbit]

I still say the Jacks are the best team in the MVFC this year. This one will be all jacks ...not even close. EWU's offense is not as good as YSU's & look at that result.

Appreciate the enthusiasm....but we still defer to NDSU. Hopefully a rematch is in the works. 1-0 every week is all the Rabbits can do to make that happen.
The anticipation for this game is killing me, much more than the NAU game.
All the talk has been talked. All the NDSU posters have taken over every thread on every forum. Tired of reading about "Who's Big Brother can beat up who" and the "So's your mama" smack. Tomorrow's Thursday and it is downhill from there!

(We do appreciate all the NDSU words of support though!)

[caribbeanhen]

do I need to read the entire thread to find the Screamin Eagle beatdown section

[kalm]

Against the tough run defenses in your conference right? Like NAU, UND, etc.? We could do this song and dance all week on multiple fronts..

Agreed and you need to consider the comment I was responding to. EWU is a pass happy offense that runs it 50% of the time. It would be like me downplaying Valley pass defenses cuz nobody throws.

[clawman]

Stroke of marketing genius! Coaches commented on this week's show again how much brand awareness it has created with recruiting - more so than the Chipper. Kids think it's cool and want to play on the glorious majesty that is Roos Field.

But you you can't truly appreciate its splendor unless you see it in person. And like the Exorcist...it keeps...getting better...every single time you see it!!!

haters gonna hate...

Kalm;
More like Red Turf envyxlolx And those clowns from NDSU, they replaced their field with green turf to match their team colors just to be like us
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[Red & Black]

I still say the Jacks are the best team in the MVFC this year. This one will be all jacks ...not even close.


EWU's offense is not as good as YSU's & look at that result.

Cocaine's a hell of a drug, eh?

First off, as much as I hate to admit it, there isn't a better team than NDSU in the entire FCS this season, let alone just the MVFC.

Your second statement is just laughable.





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[NoDak 4 Ever]

Cocaine's a hell of a drug, eh?

First off, as much as I hate to admit it, there isn't a better team than NDSU in the entire FCS this season, let alone just the MVFC.

Your second statement is just laughable.





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He's a YSU guy. That can't be easy.

[Bisonoline]

Don't even know how you say this with a straight face.

Its the drugs.

[Thumper76]

Hate to break this to ya, but EWU finished ahead of you in rushing offense at the end of the regular season.

I'd rather have both.

Well we kinda do. We didnt end up towards the top of the mvfc in passing by winning a drawing....

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[Grizalltheway]

Well we kinda do. We didnt end up towards the top of the mvfc in passing by winning a drawing....

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No, you did it by playing in the MVFC. ;)

[Thumper76]

No, you did it by playing in the MVFC. ;)

I see what you did there....

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[thebootfitter]

I'm thinking about driving over to the game from Seattle this weekend. Lots of logistics to overcome first, not least of which is how to manage the long round trip drive by myself with two kids under four. (Wife is working this weekend.) If I do make it, I'll want to cheer for the Bunnies. Is SDSU expecting a lot of folks at the game?

[RabidRabbit]

I'm pretty certain that there will be fewer JACKRABBIT (not Bunnies xblehx ) fans than at NAU. There are a fair amount of SDSU fans/player in and from AZ. Many of the players from AZ on the SDSU team were a bit "miffed?" about NAU not offering schollies, so they and local families were out in force.

SDSU doesn't have the alumni base, nor players from Washington. It's going to be "South Dakota State" weather. An advantage for the team, but not so much to get fans out into the wonderful single digit temps. Thanks, but I'll be enjoying the game from NYC, and the comforts of a heated room.

Appreciate the support, and if making the trip with the youngsters, make certain they are safe and bundled against the wonderful eastern Washington conditions.

[BisonBacker]

Best of Luck to the Jackrabbits this weekend. Either way I think this should be a hell of a game. Much closer than some are expecting. The colder weather has to be a slight advantage to the running team in this contest. That football is going to be like a rock on Saturday.

[thebootfitter]

Appreciate the support, and if making the trip with the youngsters, make certain they are safe and bundled against the wonderful eastern Washington conditions.
Actually, I'm hoping to leave the kiddies with my sister-in-law in Spokane, but that's one of the logistic hurdles I still have to clear. My manager at work is a SDSU alumn, so he's jealous that I even have a chance to go.

Go Bunnies! xthumbsupx

[Theee Catrabbit]

Nothing really to post...just didn't like that this thread had fallen to the 2nd page ;)

[dudeitsaid]

Best of Luck to the Jackrabbits this weekend. Either way I think this should be a hell of a game. Much closer than some are expecting.

I haven't seen a lot of people expecting this to be a blowout, and I've heard the lines are anywhere from 1 to 6 points for EWU. The weather is very cold, and they are actually issuing a "wind chill" warning. If that ball is a brick, it could be challenging to complete a lot of passes. I think SDSU is one of the most challenging teams for EWU to get for their first game of the playoffs. I think it will be close, and I think SDSU has a very legitimate chance to win this game. I still give the edge to EWU though, especially at home.

[Obzerver]

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EWU is in trouble...This leaked pic from Nike H.Q.'s this week of the new one cleat Nike Destroyer line of shoes designed to perform in ice cold weather on red turf. As you can see SDSU players are embracing them....

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[SUPharmacist]

Kalm;
More like Red Turf envyxlolx And those clowns from NDSU, they replaced their field with green turf to match their team colors just to be like us
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I didn't think anyone would notice we did that.