Payton, Buchanan, Rice Update- Nov 17

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I have taken the TSN lists and made the changes that I would make. Several players have been added to the names to consider.

Only one change on the Payton list while I took off several players on the Rice list, to trim it to 20, and then I made three changes on the Buchanan list.

NOVEMBER 17, 2013

2013 PAYTON WATCH CANDIDATES

RB DJ Adams, Portland State, Sr.
228 carries, 1456 yards, 6.4ypc, 18 TDs, 132.4 yds/gm, 14 catches, 180 yards, 12.9ypc in 11 games.

QB Vernon Adams, Eastern Washington, Soph.
227-337, 3602 yards, 41 TDs, 10 INT, 67.4%, 191.4 pass eff., 327.5 yds/gm, 95 carries, 467 yards, 4.9ypc, 4 TDs in 11 games.

RB Zach Bauman, Northern Arizona, Sr.
212 carries, 1281 yards, 6.0ypc, 8 TDs, 128.1 yds/gm, 40 catches, 257 yards, 6.4ypc, 1 TD in 10 games.

QB Bryan Bennett, Southeastern Louisiana, Jr.
155-250, 2337 yards, 16 TDs, 9 INT, 62.0%, 154.4 pass eff., 212.5 yds/gm, 139 carries, 814 yards, 5.9ypc, 13 TDs in 11 games.

RB Isaiah Crowell, Alabama State, Jr.
163 carries, 1089 yards, 6.7ypc, 15 TDs, 99.0 yds/gm, 7 catches, 27 yards, 3.9ypc in 11 games.

QB Quinn Epperly, Princeton, Jr.
181-252, 1889 yards, 23 TDs, 2 INT, 71.8%, 163.3 pass eff., 209.9 yds/gm, 95 carries, 529 yards, 5.6ypc, 17 TDs, 58.8 yds/gm in 9 games.

RB Timothy Flanders, Sam Houston State, Sr.
177 carries, 1095 yards, 6.2ypc, 11 TDs, 99.5 yds/gm, 4 catches, 55 yards, 13.8ypc, 1 TD in 11 games.

QB Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois, Sr.
294-446, 4012 yards, 42 TDs, 8 INT, 65.9%, 169.0 pass eff., 364.7 yds/gm, 52 carries, 47 yards, 2 TDs in 11 games.

RB Kyle Harbridge, Saint Francis PA, Sr.
220 carries, 1411 yards, 6.4ypc, 14 TDs, 156.8 yds/gm, 13 catches, 106 yards, 8.2ypc, 1 TD in 9 games.

QB Brock Jensen, North Dakota State, Sr.
149-222, 1846 yards, 24 TDs, 5 INT, 67.1%, 168.1 pass eff., 184.6 yds/gm, 69 carries, 249 yards, 3.6ypc, 5 TDs in 10 games.

WR Lee Kurfis, Lehigh, Sr.
92 catches, 1272 yards, 13.8ypc, 8 TDs, 127.2 yds/gm, 1 carry, 6 yards in 10 games.

WR Erik Lora, Eastern Illinois, Sr.
102 catches, 1339 yards, 13.1ypc, 17 TDs, 121.7 yds/gm, 2 carries, 30 yards, 15.0ypc, 1-2, 5 yards, 1 TD passing in 11 games.

QB Jeff Mathews, Cornell, Sr.
195-313, 2486 yards, 18 TDs, 11 INT, 62.3%, 141.0 pass eff., 310.8 yd/gm, 69 carries, minus -7 yards, 3 TDs in 8 games.

QB Mason Mills, San Diego, Sr.
256-388, 3463 yards, 35 TDs, 5 INT, 66.0%, 168.1 pass eff., 314.8 yds/gm, 52 carries, minus -150 yards in 11 games.

QB Michael Nebrich, Fordham, Jr.
255-341, 3181 yards, 23 TDs, 4 INT, 74.8%, 173.1 pass eff., 318.1 yds/gm, 123 carries, 445 yards, 3.6ypc, 8 TDs in 10 games.

WR Walter Powell, Murray State, Sr.
66 catches, 837 yards, 12.7ypc, 13 TDs, 83.7 yds/gm, 2 carries, 33 yards, 16 PR, 185 yards, 11.6avg, 1 TD, 11 KR, 346 yards, 31.5avg, 1 TD in 10 games.

QB John Robertson, Villanova, Soph.
150-219, 1705 yards, 10 TDs, 6 INT, 68.5%, 143.5 pass eff., 170.5 yds/gm, 186 carries, 1240 yards, 6.7ypc, 19 TDs, 124.0 yds/gm in 10 games.

RB Lorenzo Taliaferro, Coastal Carolina, Sr.
220 carries, 1466 yards, 6.7ypc, 23 TDs, 133.3 yds/gm, 15 catches, 98 yards, 6.5ypc, 1 TD in 11 games.

RB Fabian Truss, Samford, Sr.
167 carries, 877 yards, 5.3ypc, 8 TDs, 79.7 yds/gm, 36 catches, 295 yards, 8.2ypc, 1 TD, 20 PR, 295 yards, 14.8avg, 23 KR, 738 yards, 32.1avg, 2 TDs in 11 games.

RB Terrance West, Towson, Jr.
279 carries, 1765 yards, 6.3ypc, 27 TDs, 160.5 yds/gm, 15 catches, 155 yards, 10.3ypc, 1 TD in 11 games.

RB Zach Zenner, South Dakota State, Jr.
271 carries, 1509 yards, 5.6ypc, 18 TDs, 137.2 yds/gm, 20 catches, 248 yards, 12.4ypc, 1 TD in 11 games.

ADDED
DJ Adams.

DROPPED
QB DeNarius McGhee, Montana State, Sr.- Drop
158-232, 1933 yards, 8 TDs, 4 INT, 68.1%, 146.0 pass eff., 193.3 yds/gm, 65 carries, 196 yards, 3.0ypc, 4 TDs in 10 games.

NAMES TO KEEP AN EYE ON

WR Sam Ajala, Fordham, Jr.
74 catches, 1327 yards, 17.9ypc, 11 TDs, 120.6 yds/gm in 11 games.

WR Stephen Barnette, Richmond, Jr.
69 catches, 1099 yards, 15.9ypc, 5 TDs, 99.9 yds/gm in 11 games.

WR Jordan Harris, Bryant, Sr.
54 catches, 907 yards, 16.8ypc, 4 Tds, 90.7 yds/gm, 9 carries, 17 yards in 10 games.

RB Rob Hollomon, Central Connecticut State, Jr.
235 carries, 1284 yards, 5.5ypc, 18 TDs, 128.4 yds/gm, 22 catches, 196 yards, 8.9ypc, 1 TD in 10 games.

QB Jacob Huesman, Chattanooga, Soph.
164-240, 1637 yards, 16 TDs, 5 INT, 68.3%, 143.5 pass eff., 148.8 yds/gm, 176 carries, 894 yards, 5.1ypc, 9 TDs in 1 games.

RB David Johnson, Northern Iowa, Jr.
196 carries, 1130 yards, 5.8ypc, 8 TDs, 113.0 yds/gm, 37 catches, 378 yards, 10.2ypc, 4 TDs in 10 games.

QB Jordan Johnson, Montana, Jr.
173-305, 2749 yards, 27 TDs, 4 INTs, 56.7%, 159.0 pass eff., 249.9 yds/gm, 48 carries, 106 yards, 2.2ypc in 11 games.

QB Dray Joseph, Southern, Sr.
220-353, 2905 yards, 23 TDs, 10 INT, 62.3%, 147.3 pass eff., 290.5 yds/gm, 57 carries, minus -102 yards, 1 TD in 10 games.

WR Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington, Fr.
68 catches, 1231 yards, 18.1ypc, 16 TDs, 111.9 yds/gm in 11 games.

QB Jerry Lovelocke, Prairie View A&M, Jr.
267-404, 2704 yards, 22 TDs, 7 INT, 66.1%, 136.8 pass eff., 245.8 yds/gm, 61 carries, 212 yards, 3.5ypc, 6 TDs in 11 games.

RB Christian Reyes, Charleston Southern, Jr.
235 carries, 1216 yards, 5.2ypc, 9 TDs, 101.3 yds/gm, 7 catches, 35 yards, 5.0ypc in 11 games.

AP Xavier Roberson, Southeastern Louisiana, Soph.
101 carries, 487 yards, 4.8ypc, 5 TDs, 44.3 yds/gm, 10 catches, 130 yards, 13.0ypc, 1 TD, 18 KR, 688 yards, 38.2avg, 3 TDs in 11 games.

WR Diontae Spencer, McNeese State, Sr.
6 carries, 29 yards, 4.8ypc, 1-1, 46 yards, 1 TD, 41 catches, 691 yards, 16.9ypc, 8 TDs, 62.8 yds/gm, 25 KR, 756 yards, 30.2avg, 2 TDs, 16 PR, 127 yards, 7.9avg, 1 TD in 11 games.

QB Marcus Wasilewski, Maine, Sr.
228-327, 2789 yards, 23 TDs, 6 INT, 69.7%, 160.91 pass eff., 253.5 yds/gm, 127 carries, 458 yards, 3.6ypc, 3 TDs in 11 games.


2013 BUCHANAN WATCH CANDIDATES

LB Quinn Backus, Coastal Carolina, Jr.
108 TKL, 7 TFL, 1 SACK, 3 INT, returned 1 for a TD, 6 PBU in 11 games.

S Jerome Couplin, William & Mary, Sr.
101 TKL, 2.5 TFL, 4 PBU, 1 FR returned for TD, 2 FF in 11 games.

DE James Cowser, Southern Utah, Soph.
64 TKL, 17 TFL, 9.5 SACKS, 1 INT, 3 PBU, 7 QBH, 2 FR, 1 FF, 1 BLK in 11 games.

DE Brad Daly, Montana State, Sr.
61 TKL, 19.5 TFL, 14 SACKS, 1 INT, 2 PBU, 6 QBH, 1 FR, 2 FF, 1 BLK in 11 games.

DE Terrence Fede, Marist, Sr.
59 TKL, 17.5 TFL, 12.5 SACKS, 4 PBU, 13 QBH, 1 FF in 11 games.

LB Ronnie Hamlin, Eastern Washington, Jr.
87 TKL, 4 TFL, 1 SACK, 2 INT, 1 QBH in 11 games.

DE Zach Hodges, Harvard, Jr.
37 TKL, 11.5 TFL, 6.5 SACKS, 1 INT, 2 PBU, 7 QBH, 3 FR, 4 FF in 9 games.

CB Kendall James, Maine, Sr.
30 TKL, 2.5 TFL, 2 INT, 8 PBU in 11 games.

DT Caraun Reid, Princeton, Sr.
19 TKL, 7 TFL, 3.5 SACKS, 1 INT, 1 PBU, 5 QBH, 1 BLK in 9 games.

DE Shaquille Riddick, Gardner-Webb, Jr.
67 TKL, 19 TFL, 8.5 SACKS, 3 PBU, 16 QBH, 1 FF in 11 games.

LB Stephon Robertson, James Madison, Sr.
130 TKL, 16 TFL, 5 SACKS, 1 INT, 5 PBU, 4 QBH, 1 FR, 2 FF in 11 games.

S Caleb Schaffitzel, Missouri State, Jr.
111 TKL, 2.5 TFL, 1 SACK, 4 INT, 8 PBU in 12 games.

LB Justin Shade, Samford, Sr.
115 TKL, 15 TFL, 9 SACKS, 2 PBU, 1 QBH, 2 FF in 11 games.

DT Robert Simpson, Mississippi Valley State, Sr.
65 TKL, 15 TFL, 4.5 SACKS, 5 PBU, 5 QBH, 1 FR, 2 BLK in 10 games.

LB Tyler Starr, South Dakota, Sr.
65 TKL, 15 TFL, 9 SACKS, 1 INT, 4 PBU, 6 QBH, 4 FF in 11 games.

LB Joe Thomas, South Carolina State, Sr.
108 TKL, 18 TFL, 7.5 SACKS, 1 INT, 5 PBU, 4 QBH, 1 FR in 11 games.

DE Lynden Trail, Norfolk State, Jr.
81 TKL, 11.5 TFL, 7.5 SACKS, 2 INT, 8 PBU, 8 QBH, 2 FR, 4 FF, 2 BLK in 11 games.

LB Jordan Tripp, Montana, Sr.
82 TKL, 5 TFL, 1.5 SACKS, 3 INT, 2 PBU, 1 QBH, 3 FR, 1 FF, 1 BLK in 11 games.

DE Davis Tull, Chattanooga, Jr.
51 TKL, 15 TFL, 9 SACKS, 1 PBU, 8 QBH, 1 FR, 4 FF in 11 games.

DE Colton Underwood, Illinois State, Sr.
66 TKL, 12 TFL, 3 SACK, 5 PBU, 9 QBH, 2 FR, 2 FF, 1 BLK in 11 games.

ADDED
Cowser, James, and Riddick.

DROPPED
LB Clarence Bumpas, Northern Colorado, Sr.
97 TKL, 3.5 TFL, 1.5 SACKS, 2 PBU, 1 BLK in 10 games.

LB Alvin Scioneaux, Wofford, Sr.
71 TKL, 9 TFL, 1.5 SACKS, 1 INT, 2 PBU, 1 QBH, 2 FR, 2 FF in 10 games.

CB Marcus Williams, North Dakota State, Sr.
18 TKL, 2 INT, 1 TD, 6 PBU, 8 KR, 173 yards, 21.6avg in 9 games.

NAMES TO KEEP AN EYE ON

DE Anthony Bass, Tennessee State, Jr.
28 TKL, 14 TFL, 10 SACKS, 4 PBU, 6 QBH, 2 FR, 2 FF, 1 BLK, 1 SAF in 12 games.

LB Tony Bell, UT Martin, Jr.
72 TKL, 14.5 TFL, 10 SACKS, 2 PBU, 6 QBH, 3 FR, 3 FF in 11 games.

LB Clarence Bumpas, Northern Colorado, Sr.
97 TKL, 3.5 TFL, 1.5 SACKS, 2 PBU, 1 BLK in 10 games.

DE Andrew Carter, South Carolina State, Jr.
45 TKL, 15 TFL, 10.5 SACKS, 6 QBH, 2 FR, 2 FF, 1 SAF in 9 games.

LB Telvion Clark, Towson, Sr.
99 TKL, 9.5 TFL, 4.5 SACKS, 3 PBU, 3 FR, 4 FF in 11 games.

LB Isiah Corbett, Southeastern Louisiana, Jr.
41 TKL, 13.5 TFL, 7 SACKS, 1 INT, 2 PBU, 2 QBH, 1 FF in 11 games.

DE Rakim Cox, Villanova, Sr.
25 TKL, 10.5 TFL, 8 SACKS, 1 PBU, 3 QBH, 1 FF, 3 BLK in 10 games.

LB Wes Dothard, Chattanooga, Sr.
81 TKL, 7.5 TFL, 1.5 SACKS, 2 INT, returned one for a TD, 2 PBU, 4 QBH in 11 games.

S Daniel Fitzpatrick, Tennessee State, Jr.
63 TKL, 5.5 TFL, 6 INT, returned 2 for TDs, 8 PBU in 12 games.

CB Stephen Godbolt III, Tennessee State, Jr.
25 TKL, 1 INT, 5 PBU, 1 FF in 10 games.

LB D’Vonte Grant, North Carolina A&T, Sr.
89 TKL, 10 TFL, 0.5 SACK, 2 INT, 6 PBU, 3 QBH, 3 FR, 2 FF, 2 BLK in 10 games.

DT Sullivan Grosz, Cal Poly, Sr.
65 TKL, 11.5 TFL, 7 SACKS, 1 PBU, 5 QBH, 1 FF, 1 BLK in 11 games.

LB Stephen Hodge, Fordham, Jr.
107 TKL, 15 TFL, 5 SACKS, 1 INT, 5 PBU, 3 QBH, 1 FR, 4 FF in 11 games.

DE Will Hunt, Charleston Southern, Sr.
34 TKL, 8 TFL, 5 SACKS, 1 PBU, 1 FF, 1 BLK in 7 games.

LB Ben Johnson, UT Martin, Sr.
91 TKL, 11.5 TFL, 3 SACKS, 1 INT, 3 PBU, 2 QBH in 11 games.

DT Zachariah Kerr, Delaware, Sr.
52 TKL, 5 TFL, 3.5 SACKS, 2 PBU, 2 QBH, 2 FF in 11 games.

LB Deon King, Norfolk State, Soph.
79 TKL, 18.5 TFL, 9.5 SACKS, 4 QBH, 2 FR, 1 FF in 11 games.

DT Antoine Lewis, Villanova, Sr.
47 TKL, 4 TFL, 1 SACK, 2 PBU in 10 games.

S Jestin Love, Central Arkansas, Sr.
43 TKL, 3 TFL, 5 PBU, 1 FR in 10 games.

S Dean Marlowe, James Madison, Jr.
72 TKL, 0.5 TFL, 1 INT, 7 PBU, 1 FR in 11 games.

LB Grant Olson, North Dakota State, Sr.
79 TKL, 6.5 TFL, 4 SACKS, 1 INT, 2 PBU, 5 QBH, 1 FR, 1 FF in 9 games.

LB Bryan Presume, Southern Illinois, Sr.
102 TKL, 12.5 TFL, 3 SACKS, 1 INT, 1 PBU, 7 QBH, 1 FR, 1 FF, 3 BLK in 11 games.

LB Alvin Scioneaux, Wofford, Sr.
71 TKL, 9 TFL, 1.5 SACKS, 1 INT, 2 PBU, 1 QBH, 2 FR, 2 FF in 10 games.

DT Jordan Stanton, James Madison, Sr.
52 TKL, 11.5 TFL, 8 SACKS, 2 PBU, 2 QBH in 11 games.

S Jaquiski Tartt, Samford, Jr.
81 TKL, 0.5 TFL, 1 INT, 7 PBU in 10 games.

DE Connor Underwood, Indiana State, Soph.
65 TKL, 13.5 TFL, 8 SACKS, 1 INT, 4 PBU, 4 QBH, 1 FR, 1 FF in 11 games.

DE Zack Wagenmann, Montana, Jr.
50 TKL, 15 TFL, 7 SACKS, 2 PBU, 6 QBH, 3 FF in 11 games.

CB Marcus Williams, North Dakota State, Sr.
18 TKL, 2 INT, 1 TD, 6 PBU, 8 KR, 173 yards, 21.6avg in 9 games.

DE Jonathan Woodard, Central Arkansas, Soph.
44 TKL, 10.5 TFL, 8 SACKS, 1 PBU, 1 QBH, 1 FR, 2 FF in 11 games.

DT Kerry Wynn, Richmond, Sr.
50 TKL, 5 TFL, 2 SACKS, 3 PBU, 4 QBH in 9 games.


2013 JERRY RICE WATCH

LB Kourtney Berry, Alabama State
97 TKL, 11.5 TFL, 6 SACKS, 1 INT, 3 PBU, 2 QBH, 2 FR in 11 games.

QB Dillon Buechel, Duquesne
181-310, 2058 yards, 10 TDs, 14 INT, 58.4%, 115.7 pass eff., 228.7 yds/gm, 42 carries, 35 yards, 0.8ypc in 9 games.

RB Tarik Cohen, NC A&T
164 carries, 1023 yards, 6.2ypc, 8 TDs, 102.3 yds/gm, 10 catches, 146 yards, 14.6ypc, 1 TD in 10 games.

RB Marcus Cox, Appalachian State
219 carries, 1035 yards, 4.7ypc, 12 TDs, 94.1 yds/gm, 41 catches, 540 yards, 13.2ypc, 5 TDs, 49.1 yds/gm in 11 games.

P Bentlee Critcher, Appalachian State
47 punts, 2134 yards, 45.4avg, 63 long, 5 TB, 11 FC, 12 I20, 16 50+, 1 BLK in 11 games.

P Lawrence Forbes, Morgan State
48 punts, 2135 yards, 44.5avg, 78 long, 2 TB, 7 FC, 13 I20, 11 50+ in 11 games.

QB Matt Johnson, Charlotte
209-347, 2440 yards, 20 TDs, 12 INT, 60.2%, 131.4 pass eff., 244.0 yds/gm, 89 carries, 313 yards, 3.5ypc, 2 TDs in 10 games.

DE Javancy Jones, Jackson State
48 TKL, 12 TFL, 5 SACKS, 2 PBU, 2 QBH, 1 FF in 10 games.

CB Michael Jones, NC Central
38 TKL, 3.5 TFL, 4 INT, 8 PBU, 1 FR in 10 games.

WR Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington
68 catches, 1231 yards, 18.1ypc, 16 TDs, 111.9 yds/gm in 11 games.

LB John Law, Appalachian State
66 TKL, 1 TFL, 1 SACK, 3 INT, 1 QBH, 1 FR, 1 FF in 11 games.

LB Christophe Mulumba, Maine
98 TKL, 3 TFL, 1.5 SACKS, 2 INT, 2 PBU, 1 FR in 11 games.

QB RJ Noel, Sacred Heart
157-297, 1851 yards, 20 TDs, 6 INT, 52.9%, 123.4 pass eff., 168.3 yds/gm, 113 carries, 591 yards, 5.2ypc, 6 TDs in 11 games.

QB Trenton Norvell, Western Illinois
172-333, 1888 yards, 16 TDs, 13 INTs, 51.7%, 107.3 pass eff., 171.6 yds/gm, 69 carries, 15 yards, 2 TDs in 11 games.

S Donald Payne, Stetson
104 TKL, 16 TFL, 4.5 SACKS, 2 INT, 11 PBU, 3 QBH, 3 FR, 2 FF in 10 games.

QB Peter Pujals, Holy Cross
188-293, 2023 yards, 17 TDs, 6 INT, 64.2%, 137.2 pass eff., 224.8 yds/gm, 122 carries, 468 yards, 3.8ypc, 7 TDs in 9 games.

RB Martin Ruiz, Youngstown State
181 carries, 1068 yards, 5.9ypc, 14 TDs, 97.1 yds/gm, 18 catches, 184 yards, 10.2ypc, 1 TD in 11 games.

QB John Russ, Mercer
114-222, 1809 yards, 20 TDs, 7 INT, 51.4%, 143.2 pass eff., 164.5 yds/gm, 143 carreis, 768 yards, 5.4ypc, 11 TDs in 11 games.

LB Marquis Smith, Savannah State
124 TKL, 13 TFL, 1 SACK, 1 INT, 1 PBU, 1 QBH, 2 FR in 11 games.

LB Gage Steele, James Madison
99 TKL, 5 TFL, 3 SACKS, 5 PBU, 2 FF, 1 carry, 6 yards in 11 games.

DROPPED
Adebo, Black, Brittain, Usher, Williams, and Wilson.

OTHERS TO CONSIDER

RB Khalid Abdullah, James Madison
66 carries, 340 yards, 5.2ypc, 3 TDs, 42.5 yds/gm, 6 catches, 32 yards, 5.3ypc in 8 games.

DE Mouf Adebo, Sam Houston State
27 TKL, 7.5 TFL, 3 SACKS, 1 PBU, 1 FF in 10 games.

CB Samson Baldwin, Coastal Carolina
45 TKL, 1 TFL, 1 INT, 8 PBU in 10 games.

DT Austin Black, SEMO
47 TKL, 7.5 TFL, 4.5 SACKS, 1 QBH, 1 BLK in 11 games.

WR Devin Borders, Eastern Kentucky
29 catches, 466 yards, 16.1ypc, 6 TDs, 42.4 yds/gm in 11 games.

QB Trent Brittain, Incarnate Word
178-325, 1893 yards, 11 TDs, 9 INT, 54.8%, 109.9 pass eff., 172.1 yds/gm, 117 carries, 392 yards, 3.4ypc, 2 TDs in 11 games.

S Casey DeAndrade, New Hampshire
44 TKL, 2 TFL, 1 INT, 14 PBU in 9 games.

DE Samson Ebukam, Eastern Washington
20 TKL, 3 TFL, 3 SACKS, 1 INT, 2 PBU, 2 FR in 11 games.

RB Payton Usher, Mercer
114 carries, 776 yards, 6.8ypc, 2 TDs, 86.2 yds/gm, 9 catches, 81 yards, 9.0ypc in 9 games.

RB CJ Williams, Bucknell
196 carries, 827 yards, 4.2ypc, 7 TDs, 91.9 yds/gm, 10 catches, 80 yards, 8.0ypc, 2 TDs, 1-1, 18 yards passing in 9 games.

CB Kwe’shon Williams, James Madison
47 TKL, 1 TFL, 3 INT, 7 PBU in 9 games.

WR/KR Jatavious Wilson, Central Arkansas
40 catches, 397 yards, 9.9ypc, 2 TDs, 36.1 yds/gm, 8 carries, 85 yards, 10.6ypc, 3 PR, 26 yards, 8.7avg, 17 KR, 541 yards, 31.8av, 2 TDs in 10 games.

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Here is how I project the top 5. I do want to point out that I still think Reid is one of the best in the nation and should be among top 3 defensive players I have seen but teams are scheming so much against him his numbers are too low for me to project he is in the top 5 for the Buchanan Award.

The Buchanan Award is down to Daly and Robertson unless Riddick really goes off again with another huge game and then I would put his name along with theirs. The problem for him is that he has not been on the official list and has really come on since mid-season. The other two have been doing it all year long. Riddick is a better NFL prospect than either of them though. Among my top 10 for the Buchanan Riddick, Hodges, Tull, Reid, and Trail are the best NFL talents so far.

PAYTON TOP 5

1. QB Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois, Sr.
294-446, 4012 yards, 42 TDs, 8 INT, 65.9%, 169.0 pass eff., 364.7 yds/gm, 52 carries, 47 yards, 2 TDs in 11 games.

2. QB Vernon Adams, Eastern Washington, Soph.
227-337, 3602 yards, 41 TDs, 10 INT, 67.4%, 191.4 pass eff., 327.5 yds/gm, 95 carries, 467 yards, 4.9ypc, 4 TDs in 11 games.

3. RB Terrance West, Towson, Jr.
279 carries, 1765 yards, 6.3ypc, 27 TDs, 160.5 yds/gm, 15 catches, 155 yards, 10.3ypc, 1 TD in 11 games.

4. QB John Robertson, Villanova, Soph.
150-219, 1705 yards, 10 TDs, 6 INT, 68.5%, 143.5 pass eff., 170.5 yds/gm, 186 carries, 1240 yards, 6.7ypc, 19 TDs, 124.0 yds/gm in 10 games.

5. RB Lorenzo Taliaferro, Coastal Carolina, Sr.
220 carries, 1466 yards, 6.7ypc, 23 TDs, 133.3 yds/gm, 15 catches, 98 yards, 6.5ypc, 1 TD in 11 games.

WORTHY OF MENTION

RB DJ Adams, Portland State, Sr.
228 carries, 1456 yards, 6.4ypc, 18 TDs, 132.4 yds/gm, 14 catches, 180 yards, 12.9ypc in 11 games.

QB Bryan Bennett, Southeastern Louisiana, Jr.
155-250, 2337 yards, 16 TDs, 9 INT, 62.0%, 154.4 pass eff., 212.5 yds/gm, 139 carries, 814 yards, 5.9ypc, 13 TDs in 11 games.

QB Quinn Epperly, Princeton, Jr.
181-252, 1889 yards, 23 TDs, 2 INT, 71.8%, 163.3 pass eff., 209.9 yds/gm, 95 carries, 529 yards, 5.6ypc, 17 TDs, 58.8 yds/gm in 9 games.

QB Brock Jensen, North Dakota State, Sr.
149-222, 1846 yards, 24 TDs, 5 INT, 67.1%, 168.1 pass eff., 184.6 yds/gm, 69 carries, 249 yards, 3.6ypc, 5 TDs in 10 games.

RB Zach Zenner, South Dakota State, Jr.
271 carries, 1509 yards, 5.6ypc, 18 TDs, 137.2 yds/gm, 20 catches, 248 yards, 12.4ypc, 1 TD in 11 games.


BUCHANAN TOP 5

1. LB Stephon Robertson, James Madison, Sr.
130 TKL, 16 TFL, 5 SACKS, 1 INT, 5 PBU, 4 QBH, 1 FR, 2 FF in 11 games.

2. DE Brad Daly, Montana State, Sr.
61 TKL, 19.5 TFL, 14 SACKS, 1 INT, 2 PBU, 6 QBH, 1 FR, 2 FF, 1 BLK in 11 games.

3. DE Shaquille Riddick, Gardner-Webb, Jr.
67 TKL, 19 TFL, 8.5 SACKS, 3 PBU, 16 QBH, 1 FF in 11 games.

4. DE Davis Tull, Chattanooga, Jr.
51 TKL, 15 TFL, 9 SACKS, 1 PBU, 8 QBH, 1 FR, 4 FF in 11 games.

5. DE Zach Hodges, Harvard, Jr.
37 TKL, 11.5 TFL, 6.5 SACKS, 1 INT, 2 PBU, 7 QBH, 3 FR, 4 FF in 9 games.

WORTHY OF MENTION

DE James Cowser, Southern Utah, Soph.
64 TKL, 17 TFL, 9.5 SACKS, 1 INT, 3 PBU, 7 QBH, 2 FR, 1 FF, 1 BLK in 11 games.

DE Terrence Fede, Marist, Sr.
59 TKL, 17.5 TFL, 12.5 SACKS, 4 PBU, 13 QBH, 1 FF in 11 games.

DT Caraun Reid, Princeton, Sr.
19 TKL, 7 TFL, 3.5 SACKS, 1 INT, 1 PBU, 5 QBH, 1 BLK in 9 games.

S Caleb Schaffitzel, Missouri State, Jr.
111 TKL, 2.5 TFL, 1 SACK, 4 INT, 8 PBU in 12 games.

DE Lynden Trail, Norfolk State, Jr.
81 TKL, 11.5 TFL, 7.5 SACKS, 2 INT, 8 PBU, 8 QBH, 2 FR, 4 FF, 2 BLK in 11 games.


RICE TOP 5

1. WR Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington
68 catches, 1231 yards, 18.1ypc, 16 TDs, 111.9 yds/gm in 11 games.

2. RB Marcus Cox, Appalachian State
219 carries, 1035 yards, 4.7ypc, 12 TDs, 94.1 yds/gm, 41 catches, 540 yards, 13.2ypc, 5 TDs, 49.1 yds/gm in 11 games.

3. RB Martin Ruiz, Youngstown State
181 carries, 1068 yards, 5.9ypc, 14 TDs, 97.1 yds/gm, 18 catches, 184 yards, 10.2ypc, 1 TD in 11 games.

4. LB Gage Steele, James Madison
99 TKL, 5 TFL, 3 SACKS, 5 PBU, 2 FF, 1 carry, 6 yards in 11 games.

5. LB Christophe Mulumba, Maine
98 TKL, 3 TFL, 1.5 SACKS, 2 INT, 2 PBU, 1 FR in 11 games.

WORTHY OF MENTION

LB Kourtney Berry, Alabama State
97 TKL, 11.5 TFL, 6 SACKS, 1 INT, 3 PBU, 2 QBH, 2 FR in 11 games.

RB Tarik Cohen, NC A&T
164 carries, 1023 yards, 6.2ypc, 8 TDs, 102.3 yds/gm, 10 catches, 146 yards, 14.6ypc, 1 TD in 10 games.

DE Javancy Jones, Jackson State
48 TKL, 12 TFL, 5 SACKS, 2 PBU, 2 QBH, 1 FF in 10 games.

LB Marquis Smith, Savannah State
124 TKL, 13 TFL, 1 SACK, 1 INT, 1 PBU, 1 QBH, 2 FR in 11 games.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Even if he doesn't win they should make Brock Jensen a finalist for all the things you can't put down on paper.

[smallcollegefbfan]

Even if he doesn't win they should make Brock Jensen a finalist for all the things you can't put down on paper.

I almost put him #5 and he may end up in top 5 because of his career. I could easily see him finish in the 3-5 range for it. He, Epperly, and Bennett have done some amazing things this year and deserve their names to be mentioned for sure.

[kalm]

Even if he doesn't win they should make Brock Jensen a finalist for all the things you can't put down on paper.

No.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

No.

There isn't a QB on the board I would trade for Jensen. Hell, you couldn't give me two for him.

[smallcollegefbfan]

There isn't a QB on the board I would trade for Jensen. Hell, you couldn't give me two for him.

That's just hometown bias. I can tell you that Jensen is not one of the top 3-4 physically gifted or next level QBs in FCS but he has a great team around him, doesn't make mistakes, is a great leader, and in FCS when you have all the talent he does with his decision making skills you are going to win a lot of games. Jensen is really good. I can see why you say what you do but you have to know that there are more gifted players out there. I'd love to see what Jeff Mathews and Brock Jensen do if you swap the talent around them.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

That's just hometown bias. I can tell you that Jensen is not one of the top 3-4 physically gifted or next level QBs in FCS but he has a great team around him, doesn't make mistakes, is a great leader, and in FCS when you have all the talent he does with his decision making skills you are going to win a lot of games. Jensen is really good. I can see why you say what you do but you have to know that there are more gifted players out there. I'd love to see what Jeff Mathews and Brock Jensen do if you swap the talent around them.

4th and 3 with the season on the line against GSU. 8:30 drive in the 4th quarter against K State. Time and time again the kid performs. I'll take a winner over a Madden character any day.

[Darlinikki150]

SmallCollege has a point. Brock is a great fit for how NDSU runs its offense. I don't see him being as effective at EW let's say. That offense likes the pass, and as much as I love Brock he isn't consistent with his passing. Now one could argue that if he started with that team his throwing arm would be more accurate since the run isn't as prevalent. But I would say he is lucky to be in the running, but certainly should not win. He's great for the Bison, but overall there are better qb in the FCS.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

SmallCollege has a point. Brock is a great fit for how NDSU runs its offense. I don't see him being as effective at EW let's say. That offense likes the pass, and as much as I love Brock he isn't consistent with his passing. Now one could argue that if he started with that team his throwing arm would be more accurate since the run isn't as prevalent. But I would say he is lucky to be in the running, but certainly should not win. He's great for the Bison, but overall there are better qb in the FCS.

Neck up vs. neck down. To me, it's no contest.

[FargoBison]

I'd put Brock in at 5. Great career obviously and he is having an outstanding season.

With that said....West, Adams and Garoppolo are really in a class of their own.

[Darlinikki150]

Neck up vs. neck down. To me, it's no contest.

You are so stubborn NoDak, its ok that other teams have better players than us. As long as they don't have better teams!

[NoDak 4 Ever]

You are so stubborn NoDak, its ok that other teams have better players than us. As long as they don't have better teams!

I don't care about that. I said I wouldn't trade my guy for their guy. You can have all the 400 yd 5 td games you want. I want a winner.

[Red & Black]

Neck up vs. neck down. To me, it's no contest.

You are assuming that the other QB's on that list don't play with smarts or manage the game efficiently. Clearly not the case, and you are just being a homer. Try some objectivity some time. Jensen is no-where close to being the top QB (or offensive player) in the FCS. Not close. He has a great team around him and is a great leader and game manager. Let's leave it at that.


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[frozennorth]

That's just hometown bias. I can tell you that Jensen is not one of the top 3-4 physically gifted or next level QBs in FCS but he has a great team around him, doesn't make mistakes, is a great leader, and in FCS when you have all the talent he does with his decision making skills you are going to win a lot of games. Jensen is really good. I can see why you say what you do but you have to know that there are more gifted players out there. I'd love to see what Jeff Mathews and Brock Jensen do if you swap the talent around them.
i didn't know that the buchanen went to the player who was the best nfl prospect.

[FargoBison]

The award goes to the best offensive player. I love Brock but he isn't the best in the FCS, he is better than some of these EWU fans give him credit for but there are three guys in the FCS that are on a tier of their own. West, Adams and Garoppolo are those guys...huge stats and all three are critical to the success of their teams. Plus all three play on elite FCS teams.

[Red & Black]

i didn't know that the buchanen went to the player who was the best nfl prospect.

I think you mean the Payton.


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[dudeitsaid]

The award goes to the best offensive player. I love Brock but he isn't the best in the FCS, he is better than some of these EWU fans give him credit for but there are three guys in the FCS that are on a tier of their own. West, Adams and Garoppolo are those guys...huge stats and all three are critical to the success of their teams. Plus all three play on elite FCS teams.

Jensen is a stud. He is a great fit for your team. If this award were given for the intangibles, he may very well win. I don't pay much attention to players from other conferences, but have heard him in a couple interviews. He's got incredible character as well. If I were you guys, I wouldn't trade him either. QB's like him are few and far between. He will get some votes, but those will be based on the publicity the you guys have received, and the accomplishments of the team as a whole. These awards are given based on individual performance in position, and his stats aren't as good as several star players in the FCS.

On a side note, why do you guys have to win everything??? Tough games, K State, Sagarin rankings, hypothetical message board football games, best QB in the FCS, best D of all time, best uniforms, coolest mascot name pronunciation...you fans are as competitive as your team is!:D

[Screamin_Eagle174]

I don't care about that. I said I wouldn't trade my guy for their guy. You can have all the 400 yd 5 td games you want. I want a winner.
Adams IS a winner, and a larger reason for why EWU is winning, than Jensen is for why NDSU is winning.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Jensen is a stud. He is a great fit for your team. If this award were given for the intangibles, he may very well win. I don't pay much attention to players from other conferences, but have heard him in a couple interviews. He's got incredible character as well. If I were you guys, I wouldn't trade him either. QB's like him are few and far between. He will get some votes, but those will be based on the publicity the you guys have received, and the accomplishments of the team as a whole. These awards are given based on individual performance in position, and his stats aren't as good as several star players in the FCS.

On a side note, why do you guys have to win everything??? Tough games, K State, Sagarin rankings, hypothetical message board football games, best QB in the FCS, best D of all time, best uniforms, coolest mascot name pronunciation...you fans are as competitive as your team is!:D

I said that the committee should simply include him in the finalists as a tip of the hat to those things we should value. Nobody said he should win.

[smallcollegefbfan]

i didn't know that the buchanen went to the player who was the best nfl prospect.

Being a draftable player doesn't mean you had a great college career but I can tell you this. If the NFL thinks enough of you to draft you in the top 4 rounds, then you are one heck of a college player and should be an All-American at the FCS level.

There is a balance for sure though. For example, the St. Francis RB deserves All-America honors but he is not a draftable player. There are others like him who aren't. Jensen isn't a draftable player but definitely a top notch player in FCS. I would name him an All-American this year for sure but still not a guy I would draft.

The NFL is going to draft Caraun Reid high because he's that good of a player. Stats are just numbers and don't always tell the whole story. Why do you think most fans and media don't really hype OL? It's because people hype those with big stats and those who truly know the game of football know what a great player is. If they made knockdowns and sacks available, you would see more OL get noticed. Most voters and fans need stats and assume that having 1,000 yards makes you a great player. That's not the case.

[smallcollegefbfan]

Gardner-Webb DE added to official list:

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/fcsawards/index.aspx

[rmutv]

Not sure how Robert Morris LB Mike Cook is being overlooked in all of this. Cook has 111 tackles, 31 solo, through 11 games with 6 tackles for a loss, a sack, two forced fumbles, an interception and four pass break-ups. His numbers are comparable to nearly everyone on the Buchanan Watch List, better than some of them. He's fourth in the nation in tackles per game, but not a wink of recognition.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

If this is gonna be about FCS awards then great it's in the right place. If it's about NFL draft stuff it is not.

Don't know how or why NFL draft stuff always comes into these discussions. It's about FCS player careers and what they've done now right? In short draft talk is fine and all but it doesn't have to take over these threads with projections and how it should affect these awards does it? If it does I'll move the thread.xthumbsupx

[jmufan999]

when did this become the Brock Jensen thread?

about Robertson, glad to see he's at the top of your list. it's a shame our secondary is so terrible, will probably keep him from winning the award. they'll look at JMU's defense overall which has been quite bad recently.

i think he'll be a better NFL player than you think, just maybe not at LB. i actually think he could be a LB/S hybrid. someone will figure out a way to use him. he's quick, unbelievably instinctive and tough, and is an excellent tackler. i see him being drafted no later than the 6th round and probably before that.

[Mr. C]

Neck up vs. neck down. To me, it's no contest.
So you are saying that Jeff Mathews is stupid? A Cornell student with an extremely high football IQ (ask pro scouts and coaches) that began with a strong high school background. Just because Mathews has ZERO around him doesn't mean he isn't Jensen's equal, or superior, from the neck up. You are really starting to sound like a HOMER.

[Mr. C]

You can plug Garoppolo all you want, but no QB has been as good this season as John Robertson, with very little around him due to all of Villanova's injuries. Put Garoppolo in Vilanova's offense and I doubt he could do what Robertson has done. I'd take Terrance West over anyone not named Robertson and Quinn Epperly would probably No. 3 on my list.

[Mr. C]

If this is gonna be about FCS awards then great it's in the right place. If it's about NFL draft stuff it is not.

Don't know how or why NFL draft stuff always comes into these discussions. It's about FCS player careers and what they've done now right? In short draft talk is fine and all but it doesn't have to take over these threads with projections and how it should affect these awards does it? If it does I'll move the thread.xthumbsupx
Calm down, Ursus. Draft potential has always been a part of the Payton-Buchanan discussion. I got blasted by Delaware people when Joe Flacco didn't make the Payton list (and only received a couple of write-in votes). It seemed that the Blue Hen fans couldn't get over the fact that RB Omar Cuff (who finished fourth in the voting) was considered a better Payton candidate when I asked the Delaware football folks who they wanted on the list.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

So you are saying that Jeff Mathews is stupid? A Cornell student with an extremely high football IQ (ask pro scouts and coaches) that began with a strong high school background. Just because Mathews has ZERO around him doesn't mean he isn't Jensen's equal, or superior, from the neck up. You are really starting to sound like a HOMER.

You can't argue with results. If there is a pressure situation, I would just take the guy who can handle it better than anyone.

There's a lot more to this than intelligence.


This isn't a Jensen thread but I'm just going to defend my position.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Calm down, Ursus. Draft potential has always been a part of the Payton-Buchanan discussion. I got blasted by Delaware people when Joe Flacco didn't make the Payton list (and only received a couple of write-in votes). It seemed that the Blue Hen fans couldn't get over the fact that RB Omar Cuff (who finished fourth in the voting) was considered a better Payton candidate when I asked the Delaware football folks who they wanted on the list.

Oh I'm completely calm C and just trying to figure out where these go since it turns into draft talk. These are awards for college correct? You can talk potential all you want to but it's speculation and we have plenty to go on with what these players have done so far in their career don't we?

Hell I guess I was just unaware that this was an award for draft potential. Good to know.xthumbsupx

[Texas]

It's a shame Flanders has been injured and still not at 100%. I was really hoping he would have it this year.

[Mr. C]

It's a shame Flanders has been injured and still not at 100%. I was really hoping he would have it this year.
This has become a quarterback award in the past decade. It is really hard for a running back to win it now and nearly impossible for a player from any other position.

[Mr. C]

Oh I'm completely calm C and just trying to figure out where these go since it turns into draft talk. These are awards for college correct? You can talk potential all you want to but it's speculation and we have plenty to go on with what these players have done so far in their career don't we?

Hell I guess I was just unaware that this was an award for draft potential. Good to know.xthumbsupx
I'm with you, Ursus. Just am used to the pro stuff that always filters into this conversation every year. I already said who I would vote for (if I still had a vote). We will see who comes out on top when College Sports Journal announces its awards AFTER the complete season is played out. It is likely to be vastly different than those that TSN hands out.

[Mr. C]

You can't argue with results. If there is a pressure situation, I would just take the guy who can handle it better than anyone.

There's a lot more to this than intelligence.


This isn't a Jensen thread but I'm just going to defend my position.
Heard the same conversation when Eric Ward of Richmond was the national-champion QB. He wasn't the top QB in FCS either (though, in my opinion, Jensen is better).

[kalm]

You can plug Garoppolo all you want, but no QB has been as good this season as John Robertson, with very little around him due to all of Villanova's injuries. Put Garoppolo in Vilanova's offense and I doubt he could do what Robertson has done. I'd take Terrance West over anyone not named Robertson and Quinn Epperly would probably No. 3 on my list.

Robertson and Epperly are a 1000 yards and 10 and 20 touchdowns (respectively) behind Adams and Garoppolo. In the case of Adams that's against clearly inferior competition in both cases as it is in regards to Garoppolo compared to the Princeton QB.

I can see the argument for Terrance West but on the other two…wow, just wow. You need to get out more.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Robertson and Epperly are a 1000 yards and 10 and 20 touchdowns (respectively) behind Adams and Garoppolo. In the case of Adams that's against clearly inferior competition in both cases as it is in regards to Garoppolo compared to the Princeton QB.

I can see the argument for Terrance West but on the other two…wow, just wow. You need to get out more.
C is still Lehigh after Bo Levi beating out his homeboy for the WP.

[Herder]

C is still Lehigh after Bo Levi beating out his homeboy for the WP.

While Bo Levi had good stats, he won the WP without much competition. Why? He was a national champion. It solidified his status for the WP award.

Goropollo and Adams might have video game numbers because they throw the ball a million times and play in conferences where D is optional, but neither has come close to a championship. If Jensen is still standing when two teams are left in 2013, and he has 35 - 40 TD with passer ratings and completion % the same as the other two guys, he will be right there for the WP.

The NFL MVP comes from winning teams period, and many times the best team that goes on to the Super Bowl. The best player in FCS, the WP winner, does not mean the most passing yards or TDs, it can also given to the player who exemplifies leadership and winning, (with good stats too). Don't count Jensen out of the WP. I could easily see him winning the award, ala Armanti Edwards in his three peat season.

[dudeitsaid]

While Bo Levi had good stats, he won the WP without much competition. Why? He was a national champion. It solidified his status for the WP award.

Goropollo and Adams might have video game numbers because they throw the ball a million times and play in conferences where D is optional, but neither has come close to a championship. If Jensen is still standing when two teams are left in 2013, and he has 35 - 40 TD with passer ratings and completion % the same as the other two guys, he will be right there for the WP.

The NFL MVP comes from winning teams period, and many times the best team that goes on to the Super Bowl. The best player in FCS, the WP winner, does not mean the most passing yards or TDs, it can also given to the player who exemplifies leadership and winning, (with good stats too). Don't count Jensen out of the WP. I could easily see him winning the award, ala Armanti Edwards in his three peat season.

I tried to find this somewhere as a fact, but my understanding is that the awards are based on regular season performance. And Bo Levi Mitchell set records passing the ball when everyone knew that was what he was going to do, and still couldn't stop him. Armanti Edwards also put up gaudy numbers and broke records when he won. They had individual statistics that really made them stand out.

Jensen is a stud, and his record for wins are an incredible feat. I just don't think his individual statistical performance will make him shine before the voters as the best "individual offensive player" in the country.

But I agree, some voters will view it the same way you do. His name is known, he's received a lot of publicity, and he is a dang good QB. But I would be highly shocked to see him win it.

[FargoBison]

If I had a vote it would be for West.

Brock would probably be 5th on my list.

[smallcollegefbfan]

Not sure how Robert Morris LB Mike Cook is being overlooked in all of this. Cook has 111 tackles, 31 solo, through 11 games with 6 tackles for a loss, a sack, two forced fumbles, an interception and four pass break-ups. His numbers are comparable to nearly everyone on the Buchanan Watch List, better than some of them. He's fourth in the nation in tackles per game, but not a wink of recognition.

You have to remember that the NEC is not as tough a league as the CAA, SoCon, Big Sky, etc. that dominate these type lists. If he had say 125 tackles, 15 tackles for loss, 4 sacks, 3 forced fumbles, two interceptions, and five pass breakups then those pop out enough to definitely make the list. There are a few NEC players on here. I have the top players in the league. I need to watch Cook more but he should not be on the Buck Buchanan top 20 for sure. There are some studs who still aren't on the Buchanan list. This is a deep year of elite defensive talent.

[smallcollegefbfan]

Oh I'm completely calm C and just trying to figure out where these go since it turns into draft talk. These are awards for college correct? You can talk potential all you want to but it's speculation and we have plenty to go on with what these players have done so far in their career don't we?

Hell I guess I was just unaware that this was an award for draft potential. Good to know.xthumbsupx

There are two types of NFL prospects. Those who haven't done as much in college but have the tools to potentially be a better pro than he was in college, mainly because he was not used like he should. Then you have pro prospects like Caraun Reid, Billy Turner, etc. who are NFL prospects not just because of physical tools but they are rated highly because they are very good college players who just happen to have the tools to play in the NFL. I'm sorry but I'm taking players with next level potential like Terrance West, Jeff Mathews, etc. who have produced in college over someone who doesn't have those tools like Harbridge of St. Francis and some others whose stats are just because of their system or that they aren't playing a lot of athletes who should shut them down. Not picking on Harbridge but he's a big stat guy who I would rate about #5 or #6 among FCS RBs even though stats would say he should be in top 2-3.

[smallcollegefbfan]

It's a shame Flanders has been injured and still not at 100%. I was really hoping he would have it this year.

Agreed. He was hot early but injuries have derailed his shot at the award.

[smallcollegefbfan]

Robertson and Epperly are a 1000 yards and 10 and 20 touchdowns (respectively) behind Adams and Garoppolo. In the case of Adams that's against clearly inferior competition in both cases as it is in regards to Garoppolo compared to the Princeton QB.

I can see the argument for Terrance West but on the other two…wow, just wow. You need to get out more.

I think Epperly is a great FCS guy but he's not a next level guy and to me should not be in the top 5 for the Payton. I would take Mathews, Jensen, Adams, and JG over Epperly but Epperly has somehow put Princeton on his back and led them to a great record and top 25 ranking, out of nowhere. Vernon Adams is not a NFL QB at this point in my mind but no question he's a top talent and if I had to rank the top 5 QBs in FCS right now I would list (in no order) JG, Adams, Robertson, Mathews, and then I would throw in Jensen because he has taken that next step and improved greatly this year.

[smallcollegefbfan]

While Bo Levi had good stats, he won the WP without much competition. Why? He was a national champion. It solidified his status for the WP award.

Goropollo and Adams might have video game numbers because they throw the ball a million times and play in conferences where D is optional, but neither has come close to a championship. If Jensen is still standing when two teams are left in 2013, and he has 35 - 40 TD with passer ratings and completion % the same as the other two guys, he will be right there for the WP.

The NFL MVP comes from winning teams period, and many times the best team that goes on to the Super Bowl. The best player in FCS, the WP winner, does not mean the most passing yards or TDs, it can also given to the player who exemplifies leadership and winning, (with good stats too). Don't count Jensen out of the WP. I could easily see him winning the award, ala Armanti Edwards in his three peat season.

I don't think Jensen finishes in the top 3 but I do think he finishes 4-6, whether his stats would indicate it or not, as a career achievement vote. I may throw him a bone at #4 or #5 just because of that, if he finishes strong as well.

[smallcollegefbfan]

If I had a vote it would be for West.

Brock would probably be 5th on my list.

Right now I believe Garoppolo, West, and Adams will be the top 3 with Robertson a close 4th and then Jensen, Zenner, and a couple others right there at 5-7.

[kalm]

While Bo Levi had good stats, he won the WP without much competition. Why? He was a national champion. It solidified his status for the WP award.

Goropollo and Adams might have video game numbers because they throw the ball a million times and play in conferences where D is optional, but neither has come close to a championship. If Jensen is still standing when two teams are left in 2013, and he has 35 - 40 TD with passer ratings and completion % the same as the other two guys, he will be right there for the WP.

The NFL MVP comes from winning teams period, and many times the best team that goes on to the Super Bowl. The best player in FCS, the WP winner, does not mean the most passing yards or TDs, it can also given to the player who exemplifies leadership and winning, (with good stats too). Don't count Jensen out of the WP. I could easily see him winning the award, ala Armanti Edwards in his three peat season.

Eastern runs the ball more than they throw and are averaging 181 yards per game on the ground.

[Tribe4SF]

Mike Reilly DE 6'4" 265 Junior
44 tackles/ 12 TFL/ 10.5 sacks/ 4 forced fumbles/ 1 fumble recovery

If not this year, definitely next.

http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r798/Tribe4SF/reillyud13_zps72b14fde.jpg

[smallcollegefbfan]

Mike Reilly DE 6'4" 265 Junior
44 tackles/ 12 TFL/ 10.5 sacks/ 4 forced fumbles/ 1 fumble recovery

If not this year, definitely next.

http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r798/Tribe4SF/reillyud13_zps72b14fde.jpg

Definite candidate for next year!

[Screamin_Eagle174]

While Bo Levi had good stats, he won the WP without much competition. Why? He was a national champion. It solidified his status for the WP award.

Goropollo and Adams might have video game numbers because they throw the ball a million times and play in conferences where D is optional, but neither has come close to a championship. If Jensen is still standing when two teams are left in 2013, and he has 35 - 40 TD with passer ratings and completion % the same as the other two guys, he will be right there for the WP.

The NFL MVP comes from winning teams period, and many times the best team that goes on to the Super Bowl. The best player in FCS, the WP winner, does not mean the most passing yards or TDs, it can also given to the player who exemplifies leadership and winning, (with good stats too). Don't count Jensen out of the WP. I could easily see him winning the award, ala Armanti Edwards in his three peat season.

The Lehigh QB had similar stats, but had faced inferior competition. As someone else said, Bo Levi put up those numbers despite playing behind a depleted OL and no run game. Not saying the NC didn't hurt, but he most certainly earned the WP in 2011.

As for Adams... look up his passing numbers compared to Garoppolo's. JG is throwing it as much as Bo Levi did in 2011, but Adams is not. VA is just extremely efficient, averaging over a yard per play (run and pass) more than JG. And didn't come close to a NC? Adams brought EWU back from life support and came within 4 points of playing NDSU for the title.

Lastly, as someone else also said, the WP is decided before the playoffs start, and based only on the regular season. Jensen is a great game manager with a great supporting cast, but he's not a WP finalist.

[rmutv]

You have to remember that the NEC is not as tough a league as the CAA, SoCon, Big Sky, etc. that dominate these type lists. If he had say 125 tackles, 15 tackles for loss, 4 sacks, 3 forced fumbles, two interceptions, and five pass breakups then those pop out enough to definitely make the list. There are a few NEC players on here. I have the top players in the league. I need to watch Cook more but he should not be on the Buck Buchanan top 20 for sure. There are some studs who still aren't on the Buchanan list. This is a deep year of elite defensive talent.

59 of his 111 tackles came in non-conference play, including his lone sack and two forced fumbles.

I don't think anyone expects him to win the Buchanan Award, but to not have one of the top candidates for the NEC Defensive Player of the Year at least mentioned as a name to keep an eye on is a bit odd.

Sacred Heart's J.D. Roussell (6 interceptions, 39 tackles, 12 pass break ups) isn't on the list but Tennessee State's Stephen Godbolt (25 tackles, 1 interception, 5 PBU and a forced fumble) is? You're telling me that simply because Godbolt plays in a full scholarship team, he deserve it more? You're telling me that the guy who is tied for the national lead in interceptions this year in the FCS isn't worth even an honorable mention?

I understand needing to show more because of competition, but I think if you're among the national leaders and a strong candidate to win a major award in your league, you should at least be in the "also considered" category for national recognition.

[smallcollegefbfan]

59 of his 111 tackles came in non-conference play, including his lone sack and two forced fumbles.

I don't think anyone expects him to win the Buchanan Award, but to not have one of the top candidates for the NEC Defensive Player of the Year at least mentioned as a name to keep an eye on is a bit odd.

Sacred Heart's J.D. Roussell (6 interceptions, 39 tackles, 12 pass break ups) isn't on the list but Tennessee State's Stephen Godbolt (25 tackles, 1 interception, 5 PBU and a forced fumble) is? You're telling me that simply because Godbolt plays in a full scholarship team, he deserve it more? You're telling me that the guy who is tied for the national lead in interceptions this year in the FCS isn't worth even an honorable mention?

I understand needing to show more because of competition, but I think if you're among the national leaders and a strong candidate to win a major award in your league, you should at least be in the "also considered" category for national recognition.

If he wins the NEC DEF POY then I could see it but I'm not sure he will win it. 43 and 93 at Sacred Heart would be better candidates and the only reason I have not put either of them out there yet is because I want to see who has the best game this week and go with them. Won't put two from a NEC team on this unless they are 10-1 or 11-0 and ranked. NEC took a huge hit losing Monmouth and Albany. League is a little bit weaker. Just a fact right now. Want to see how they do in the playoffs this year and if they keep close or win a game then I'll know for sure that the top team in the league should have their players mentioned much earlier in the season.

You know Godbolt has been hurt and had to sit out a game due to some other stuff, right? I don't care what the stats say. Godbolt would be the best player in the NEC by far. There are some off field things with him and if not for those he would have had 5-8 picks this year and would likely be coming out early. He's still debating it and going to ask the NFL for a grade. Godbolt is a freak athlete that should be in the SEC. He's tall, long, can run, great movement skills, and has great ball skills.