AGS Poll Results - Week 11 2013

[AGSPoll]

Results for 11/11/2013 AGS Poll:



1
North Dakota State Bison
1675
67


2
Eastern Illinois Panthers
1586



3
Eastern Washington Eagles
1502



4
Maine Black Bears
1435



5
Fordham Rams
1417



6
Sam Houston State Bearkats
1330



7
Southeastern Louisiana Lions
1201



8
Towson Tigers
1112



9
Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
1019



10
McNeese State Cowboys
979



11
Montana Grizzlies
957



12
Youngstown State Penguins
854



13
William & Mary Tribe
830



14
Montana State Bobcats
827



15
Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
825



16
Charleston Southern Buccaneers
793



17
Chattanooga Mocs
642



18
Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
401



19
Jacksonville State Gamecocks
398



20
Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
370



21
Princeton Tigers
357



22
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
272



23
Lehigh Mountain Hawks
245



24
Tennessee State Tigers
179



25
New Hampshire Wildcats
104
















Most Significant Win:





Charleston Southern Buccaneers











Most Significant Loss:





Coastal Carolina Chanticleers











ORV:




26
Harvard Crimson
80



27
Southern Utah Thunderbirds
72



28
Samford Bulldogs
51



29
Villanova Wildcats
42



30T
Wofford Terriers
37



30T
James Madison Dukes
37



32
South Carolina State Bulldogs
28



33
Northern Iowa Panthers
22



34
Jackson State Tigers
20



35T
Illinois State Redbirds
18



35T
Southern Illinois Salukis
18



37
Sacred Heart Pioneers
9



38
Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
7



39T
Cal Poly Mustangs
6



39T
Bucknell Bison
6

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Results for 11/11/2013 AGS Poll:



1
North Dakota State Bison
1675
67


2
Eastern Illinois Panthers
1586



3
Eastern Washington Eagles
1502



4
Maine Black Bears
1435



5
Fordham Rams
1417



6
Sam Houston State Bearkats
1330



7
Southeastern Louisiana Lions
1201



8
Towson Tigers
1112



9
Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
1019



10
McNeese State Cowboys
979



11
Montana Grizzlies
957



12
Youngstown State Penguins
854



13
William & Mary Tribe
830



14
Montana State Bobcats
827



15
Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
825



16
Charleston Southern Buccaneers
793



17
Chattanooga Mocs
642



18
Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
401



19
Jacksonville State Gamecocks
398



20
Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
370



21
Princeton Tigers
357



22
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
272



23
Lehigh Mountain Hawks
245



24
Tennessee State Tigers
179



25
New Hampshire Wildcats
104
















Most Significant Win:





Charleston Southern Buccaneers











Most Significant Loss:





Coastal Carolina Chanticleers











ORV:




26
Harvard Crimson
80



27
Southern Utah Thunderbirds
72



28
Samford Bulldogs
51



29
Villanova Wildcats
42



30T
Wofford Terriers
37



30T
James Madison Dukes
37



32
South Carolina State Bulldogs
28



33
Northern Iowa Panthers
22



34
Jackson State Tigers
20



35T
Illinois State Redbirds
18



35T
Southern Illinois Salukis
18



37
Sacred Heart Pioneers
9



38
Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
7



39T
Cal Poly Mustangs
6



39T
Bucknell Bison
6





Discuss.

[JMUNJ08]

Everyone is going to love my ballot this week!

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Eastern Illinois Panthers
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: Maine Black Bears
5: Fordham Rams
6: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
7: Sam Houston State Bearkats
8: William & Mary Tribe
9: Towson Tigers
10: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
11: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
12: Montana Grizzlies
13: McNeese State Cowboys
14: Montana State Bobcats
15: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
16: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
17: Youngstown State Penguins
18: Chattanooga Mocs
19: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
20: Princeton Tigers
21: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
22: Jackson State Tigers
23: Tennessee State Tigers
24: Sacred Heart Pioneers
25: San Diego Toreros

[Bison56]

I cant believe anyone is above NAU. :) Sorry couldnt resist.

[ValleyTalk]

YSU right where I thought they should be.

BEAT NDSU!

[Fordham]

Can't knock having us get bumped by Maine. Just hope Nebrich is ok and that we win out since an undefeated regular season is something special no matter what.

[knucklehead]

CSU should be above CCU. Good poll otherwise.

[dbackjon]

I cant believe anyone is above NAU. :) Sorry couldnt resist.

I'd put NAU at #6

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Everyone is going to love my ballot this week!

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Eastern Illinois Panthers
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: Maine Black Bears
5: Fordham Rams
6: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
7: Sam Houston State Bearkats
8: William & Mary Tribe
9: Towson Tigers
10: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
11: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
12: Montana Grizzlies
13: McNeese State Cowboys
14: Montana State Bobcats
15: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
16: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
17: Youngstown State Penguins
18: Chattanooga Mocs
19: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
20: Princeton Tigers
21: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
22: Jackson State Tigers
23: Tennessee State Tigers
24: Sacred Heart Pioneers
25: San Diego Toreros

I never got a response on the email so I went and looked at your previous ballot and changed #25 to Samford based on the most likely thing I could come up with.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Eastern Illinois Panthers
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: Maine Black Bears
5: Youngstown State Penguins
6: Fordham Rams
7: Sam Houston State Bearkats
8: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
9: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
10: William & Mary Tribe
11: Towson Tigers
12: Chattanooga Mocs
13: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
14: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
15: Princeton Tigers
16: Montana State Bobcats
17: McNeese State Cowboys
18: Montana Grizzlies
19: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
20: Harvard Crimson
21: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
22: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
23: New Hampshire Wildcats
24: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
25: Sacred Heart

[bluehenbillk]

Zero too high's & too low's from me this week, even though I'd flip flop Chuck South & Coastal.

[Fear the Bird]

25 for 25 with most significant discrepancy in order my very own Blue Hens



1
North Dakota State Bison


2
Eastern Illinois Panthers


3
Eastern Washington Eagles


4
Maine Black Bears


5
Fordham Rams


6
Sam Houston State Bearkats


7
Northern Arizona Lumberjacks


8
Southeastern Louisiana Lions


9
Towson Tigers


10
Montana Grizzlies


11
William & Mary Tribe


12
Charleston Southern Buccaneers


13
Youngstown State Penguins


14
Coastal Carolina Chanticleers


15
McNeese State Cowboys


16
Montana State Bobcats


17
Princeton Tigers


18
Chattanooga Mocs


19
Jacksonville State Gamecocks


20
Lehigh Mountain Hawks


21
New Hampshire Wildcats


22
Bethune-Cookman Wildcats


23
Tennessee State Tigers


24
Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens


25
South Dakota State Jackrabbits

[JMUNJ08]

I never got a response on the email so I went and looked at your previous ballot and changed #25 to Samford based on the most likely thing I could come up with.

Not a problem. Saw it come through at 11:55am so I didn't get a lot of response time :(

Samford was in the running for that spot but 6-4 gave me pause

[New Bucs Fan]

Interesting that the loser lost a big enough game to tumble quite far but the winner only one a game bgig enough to inch up. It's like the bad Dicken's novel "A Tale of Two Games"

:)


Discuss.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I never got a response on the email so I went and looked at your previous ballot and changed #25 to Samford based on the most likely thing I could come up with.

"SoCon Bias" j/k Ursus :D

[New Bucs Fan]

Interesting that the loser lost a big enough game to tumble quite far but the winner only won a game big enough to inch up. It's like the bad Dickens novel "A Tale of Two Games"

:)

Gotta love autocorrect

[JMUNJ08]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Eastern Illinois Panthers
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: Maine Black Bears
5: Youngstown State Penguins
6: Fordham Rams
7: Sam Houston State Bearkats
8: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
9: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
10: William & Mary Tribe
11: Towson Tigers
12: Chattanooga Mocs
13: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
14: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
15: Princeton Tigers
16: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
17: Montana State Bobcats
18: McNeese State Cowboys
19: Montana Grizzlies
20: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
21: Harvard Crimson
22: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
23: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
24: New Hampshire Wildcats
25: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats

Seem really low on a few teams but high enough on Coastal to warrant double inclusion?

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Seem really low on a few teams but high enough on Coastal to warrant double inclusion?

This explains everything! j/k

[Professor Chaos]

Montana at #12 is a bit high but other than that a good effort. For the most part every team is within 0-3 spots of where they should be (see below) :D

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Eastern Illinois Panthers
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: Maine Black Bears
5: Fordham Rams
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: Towson Tigers
8: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
9: McNeese State Cowboys
10: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
11: Montana State Bobcats
12: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
13: Youngstown State Penguins
14: William & Mary Tribe
15: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
16: Montana Grizzlies
17: Chattanooga Mocs
18: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
19: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
20: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
21: New Hampshire Wildcats
22: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
23: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
24: Princeton Tigers
25: Tennessee State Tigers

Also, BCU's loss was much more significant than CCU's loss if you ask me.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Seem really low on a few teams but high enough on Coastal to warrant double inclusion?

My poll is corrected, CCU was not included twice.

YSU is probably too high but I think they can shock NDSU at home. They're still the second best team in the MVFC. I've been pretty high on the Guins all year.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Not a problem. Saw it come through at 11:55am so I didn't get a lot of response time :(

Samford was in the running for that spot but 6-4 gave me pause

Yes, there are always last minute things I'm trying to get done so some come in right at the poll closing deadline which is simply the time I shut the poll off so I'm still sweeping up until about 20 after the hour so you can reply and I check before putting the poll out.

If you really wanted USD I apologize for that. I just looked at the previous ballot and figured you were typing in S-A-M and then selected USD.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

I thought this was the toughest week of the year, especially for the Top 10...

- i dropped Fordham due to the Nebrich injury
- SHSU gives up point galore but wins
- YSU loses a tough roadie against a decent team. I didn't penalize them for it....
- SELA is rolling
- W&M might be the most undervalued team in FCS
- what do you do with CSU and CCU? What's the CCU QB situation?
- I've watched a bunch of BSC games and NAU is the second best team imo.

[chattownmocs]

*Socon champs
*6 game winning streak
*More All-Americans than probably anybody
*More all-conference than anybody I'm sure
*7th scoring defense
*15th rushing
*2nd fewest penalties
*5th fewest turnovers

Conference champs, elite talent, elite defense, excellent running game, maybe most disciplined team. 17th in the country? Get real.

[Tribal]

Montana at #12 is a bit high but other than that a good effort. For the most part every team is within 0-3 spots of where they should be (see below) :D

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Eastern Illinois Panthers
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: Maine Black Bears
5: Fordham Rams
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: Towson Tigers
8: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
9: McNeese State Cowboys
10: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
11: Montana State Bobcats
12: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
13: Youngstown State Penguins
14: William & Mary Tribe
15: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
16: Montana Grizzlies
17: Chattanooga Mocs
18: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
19: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
20: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
21: New Hampshire Wildcats
22: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
23: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
24: Princeton Tigers
25: Tennessee State Tigers

Also, BCU's loss was much more significant than CCU's loss if you ask me.

I don't have my rankings in front of me but I'm certain ours are nearly spot on except you have B-C higher and I have SHSU in my top 5.

[Sammy94]

- SHSU gives up point galore but wins...

yes our 2nd and 3rd team guys aren't as good as the first string. I'll take our first string def. giving up 3 points every sat. Good poll guys.

[dystopiamembrane]

Interesting that the loser lost a big enough game to tumble quite far but the winner only one a game bgig enough to inch up.Has Chuck South been ranked recently?
Just checked. Yes, they were ranked. Something new everyday.

[fmrbearkat]

I thought this was the toughest week of the year, especially for the Top 10...

- i dropped Fordham due to the Nebrich injury
- SHSU gives up point galore but wins
- YSU loses a tough roadie against a decent team. I didn't penalize them for it....
- SELA is rolling
- W&M might be the most undervalued team in FCS
- what do you do with CSU and CCU? What's the CCU QB situation?
- I've watched a bunch of BSC games and NAU is the second best team imo.

It was 49-3 to start the 4th and our back ups went in with about 5 min left in the 3rd....final was 49-24 against a much improved Nichols State that even got an FBS win this year. Points Galore???

[rokamortis]

I thought this was the toughest week of the year, especially for the Top 10...
- what do you do with CSU and CCU? What's the CCU QB situation?


I don't think there is anything wrong with our starter - at least I haven't heard anything and he finished the game. Our stud RB went out with a thigh injury but they didn't seem too concerned with it.

[Fordham]

I thought this was the toughest week of the year, especially for the Top 10...

- i dropped Fordham due to the Nebrich injury
- ....
We don't even if know if he's going to miss any games yet. Will you bump us back up if he returns?

[fmrbearkat]

*Socon champs
*6 game winning streak
*More All-Americans than probably anybody
*More all-conference than anybody I'm sure
*7th scoring defense
*15th rushing
*2nd fewest penalties
*5th fewest penalties

Conference champs, elite talent, elite defense, excellent running game, maybe most disciplined team. 17th in the country? Get real.

So how does that work??

[dbackjon]

*Socon champs
*6 game winning streak
*More All-Americans than probably anybody
*More all-conference than anybody I'm sure
*7th scoring defense
*15th rushing
*2nd fewest penalties
*5th fewest penalties

Conference champs, elite talent, elite defense, excellent running game, maybe most disciplined team. 17th in the country? Get real.

With all that elite talent, how did you lose to a couple of four loss teams?

No good OOC wins (Austin Peay and Georgia State are horrid teams.

#17 sounds about right for the potential champs of a conference that is having a very off year.

[chattownmocs]

So how does that work??

Fixed, turnovers

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Let me preface this with; Lehigh has two difficult game left against their two biggest rivals...

Not many teams have wins over two AGS Top 25 teams. They might not be the highest ranked teams but they've earned the respect of our peers...

Lehigh has shown the ability to beat quality teams over years yet for some reason people refuse to except it. This isn't a Lehigh is the greatest rant, rather, yes virginia, they're pretty good...

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

We don't even if know if he's going to miss any games yet. Will you bump us back up if he returns?

Absolutely..

I just based it off of the info that was slanted in a pessimistic way. #6 seems very fair...

[dystopiamembrane]

Get real.Reality is important. C'mon, voters. Where's your head?

[chattownmocs]

With all that elite talent, how did you lose to a couple of four loss teams?

No good OOC wins (Austin Peay and Georgia State are horrid teams.

#17 sounds about right for the potential champs of a conference that is having a very off year.

I have trouble talking to a fan of a team that lost by 29 to the at best 2nd team in their conference. Get some consistency. One weaks a defensive struggle, next games a shootout. The big sky is a joke.

[dystopiamembrane]

yes our 2nd and 3rd team guys aren't as good as the first string. I'll take our first string def. giving up 3 points every sat. Good poll guys.This is a coaching choice. Pulling your players for whatever reason, worries of injury, not running up the score, etc. should not be something to factor in. Play the full game, that's what I say. So many, many games to account for, scores are one of the only things left to make a decision often. Team A scored 77 on Team B, Team C scored 33 on Team B...

[Tribal]

Yahoo has the Coaches Poll up. Someone explain how JMU at #25 lends that ranking any credibility.

[dystopiamembrane]

The big sky is a joke.Agreed.

[JoltinJoe]

Can't knock having us get bumped by Maine. Just hope Nebrich is ok and that we win out since an undefeated regular season is something special no matter what.

Then again Maine had its own squeaker against a one-win Albany team. I'm not sure if the Bears played short-handed.

A win's a win, and Saturday's win was especially important for Fordham -- a great gut-check win for the Rams. We've seen all year long they can build a big lead and hide. But Saturday was the second time this season (the first being at Temple) the Rams won on the last play of the game by stepping up in the clutch and getting the job done. If you get to the playoffs, believing you can win close games, and knowing you've done it before, is more important than running an opponent out of the stadium.

[dystopiamembrane]

Yahoo has the Coaches Poll up. Someone explain how JMU at #25 lends that ranking any credibility.That's a tough one to argue. I'd say Sacred Heart is better.

[dbackjon]

I have trouble talking to a fan of a team that lost by 29 to the at best 2nd team in their conference. Get some consistency. One weaks a defensive struggle, next games a shootout. The big sky is a joke.

You are calling the Big Sky a Joke?

Funny, coming from you.

[dbackjon]

Agreed.

Aww, Chatty has found a friend

[dystopiamembrane]

Aww, Chatty has found a friendNope. I think he's an asshole.
Just agreeing when the truth comes out. The only team propping our conference right now, dbackjon, is EWU.

[chattownmocs]

You are calling the Big Sky a Joke?

Funny, coming from you.

Yes, just about everyone in that has a major blowout loss. One week you have low scoring games, the next week is wild west shootouts. Its not legit.

[fmrbearkat]

This is a coaching choice. Pulling your players for whatever reason, worries of injury, not running up the score, etc. should not be something to factor in. Play the full game, that's what I say. So many, many games to account for, scores are one of the only things left to make a decision often. Team A scored 77 on Team B, Team C scored 33 on Team B...

His response was to POINTS GALORE!!! How is 24 points points galore??? If your going to say that then you might also take into consideration that we also have the 3 ranked scoring offense!

[dystopiamembrane]

His response was to POINTS GALORE!!! How is 24 points points galore??? If your going to say that then you might also take into consideration that we also have the 3 ranked scoring offense!Sorry. I wasn't arguing the points galore comment, just making a point about the coaching choice of pulling players. Sorry for the confusion.
I'm on the SHSU bandwagon, fmrbearkat. Worried about Saturday's game, though.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

It was 49-3 to start the 4th and our back ups went in with about 5 min left in the 3rd....final was 49-24 against a much improved Nichols State that even got an FBS win this year. Points Galore???

They gave up 49 the week before to SFA.

Might be slight hyperbole/nitpicking but there's definitely some truth to it. My overall point was teams have warts in the Top 10. AGS had SHSU #6, I had them #7...they're darn good..

[dystopiamembrane]

They gave up 49 the week before to SFA.Look out for that SFA team. They're pesky.

[dystopiamembrane]

..truth to it.How did Belgrade, MT get its name? Is there a healthy contingent of folks from the Balkans there? Also, can Lehigh and Lafayette see each other across the valley? I've always thought that, but never confirmed it.

[TigerFen]

Here's my Top 25. I still can't put UNH in my Top 25 again after what I saw a few weeks ago, but that may change with another win or two.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Eastern Illinois Panthers
3: Fordham Rams
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Maine Black Bears
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
8: Towson Tigers
9: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
10: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
11: Montana Grizzlies
12: Youngstown State Penguins
13: William & Mary Tribe
14: McNeese State Cowboys
15: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
16: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
17: Chattanooga Mocs
18: Princeton Tigers
19: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
20: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
21: Tennessee State Tigers
22: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
23: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
24: Jackson State Tigers
25: Wofford Terriers

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

How did Belgrade, MT get its name? Is there a healthy contingent of folks from the Balkans there?

Apparently the Serbs were big investors in the nearby railroad and the locals wanted to show their appreciation.

[dystopiamembrane]

Here's my Top 25. I still can't put UNH in my Top 25 again after what I saw a few weeks ago, but that may change with another win or two.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Eastern Illinois Panthers
3: Fordham Rams
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Maine Black Bears
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
8: Towson Tigers
9: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
10: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
11: Montana Grizzlies
12: Youngstown State Penguins
13: William & Mary Tribe
14: McNeese State Cowboys
15: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
16: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
17: Chattanooga Mocs
18: Princeton Tigers
19: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
20: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
21: Tennessee State Tigers
22: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
23: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
24: Jackson State Tigers
25: Wofford TerriersGreetings, fellow MSU non-ranker!

[fmrbearkat]

They gave up 49 the week before to SFA.

Might be slight hyperbole/nitpicking but there's definitely some truth to it. My overall point was teams have warts in the Top 10. AGS had SHSU #6, I had them #7...they're darn good..

SFA also has the number 1 ranked total offense in the country. They would be an incredible team if they were more disciplined and didn't make so many stupid mistakes and turnovers. I don't care if your NDSU, SFA is still going to get their yards and most likely lose anyways. Thats just the kind of team they are. Double that when your talking about a rivalry like The Battle of the Piney Woods. Its been lopsided on wins for us the last 10 years but it is a very heated rivalry with fans that wouldn't piss on the fire if the other school was burning down. See the fact that there were 26k plus for this game when SFA and SHSU alike don't average over 8-9k for any other games.

[dystopiamembrane]

Apparently the Serbs were big investors in the nearby railroad and the locals wanted to show their appreciation.Amazing. History fan, myself. Any links to that info you know of?

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Greetings, fellow MSU non-ranker!

Except his vote doesn't count in the poll due to lack of posts. He can still put in his ballot and so forth.

[fmrbearkat]

Sorry. I wasn't arguing the points galore comment, just making a point about the coaching choice of pulling players. Sorry for the confusion.
I'm on the SHSU bandwagon, fmrbearkat. Worried about Saturday's game, though.

Saturday's game is going to be tough for sure. Im not as worried about them as I was McNeese though. Even as good as our team has been the last couple years McNeese has been our achilies heel forever and that gets into a programs head. SELA lost to us 70-0. There is no doubt that will be in their heads and they will most likely play nervous and make mistakes. I just don't see them coming into the game lose enough to play fast and fealess. Still have no doubts we are going to have to play very well to win it though!!

[JMUNJ08]

Yahoo has the Coaches Poll up. Someone explain how JMU at #25 lends that ranking any credibility.

I would still argue that UNH should not be in our AGS poll either. Above JMU? Clearly after this weekend but still not 1 of the 25 best in the country. Would rather give some love out to a lower conference team having a good year than UNH barely scrapping by....

[Grizalltheway]

I'd put NAU at #6

Of course you would.

[msupokes1]

Saturday's game is going to be tough for sure. Im not as worried about them as I was McNeese though. Even as good as our team has been the last couple years McNeese has been our achilies heel forever and that gets into a programs head. SELA lost to us 70-0. There is no doubt that will be in their heads and they will most likely play nervous and make mistakes. I just don't see them coming into the game lose enough to play fast and fealess. Still have no doubts we are going to have to play very well to win it though!!

That SELA team is no where near the same team as they were last year. They have a lot of transfers and most probably have no idea that SHSU beat them 70-0 last year. They are the real deal. I hope SHSU wins and they could but I would not base that on what happened last year.

[McNeese72]

Look out for that SFA team. They're pesky.

They didn't look all that great to me in person this past Saturday. But small sample size of just one game.

Doc

[dystopiamembrane]

They didn't look all that great to me in person this past Saturday. But small sample size of just one game.If you don't have your regular quarterback in, they'll bite.

[FargoBison]

My poll....

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Eastern Illinois Panthers
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: Maine Black Bears
5: Fordham Rams
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
8: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
9: Towson Tigers
10: McNeese State Cowboys
11: Montana Grizzlies
12: Montana State Bobcats
13: Youngstown State Penguins
14: Chattanooga Mocs
15: William & Mary Tribe
16: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
17: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
18: Southern Utah Thunderbirds
19: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
20: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
21: Tennessee State Tigers
22: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
23: Princeton Tigers
24: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
25: Jackson State Tigers

[MTfan4life]

My poll:

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Eastern Illinois Panthers
3: Maine Black Bears
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Fordham Rams
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
8: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
9: William & Mary Tribe
10: Towson Tigers
11: McNeese State Cowboys
12: Montana State Bobcats
13: Montana Grizzlies
14: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
15: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
16: Princeton Tigers
17: Chattanooga Mocs
18: Youngstown State Penguins
19: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
20: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
21: New Hampshire Wildcats
22: Southern Utah Thunderbirds
23: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
24: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
25: South Carolina State Bulldogs

[Silenoz]

I have trouble talking to a fan of a team that lost by 29 to the at best 2nd team in their conference. Get some consistency. One weaks a defensive struggle, next games a shootout. The big sky is a joke.

While I do agree, those in glass houses yada yada yada. The SoCon ain't exactly great this year

[Silenoz]

12: Montana State Bobcats
13: Montana Grizzlies

Seriously? Forgetting for a second that the Griz haven't had a loss (to an FCS team) by that margin since the '90s; if there is a team that is struggling more than the Griz recently it's the Cats

[lionsrking2]

Saturday's game is going to be tough for sure. Im not as worried about them as I was McNeese though. Even as good as our team has been the last couple years McNeese has been our achilies heel forever and that gets into a programs head. SELA lost to us 70-0. There is no doubt that will be in their heads and they will most likely play nervous and make mistakes. I just don't see them coming into the game lose enough to play fast and fealess.

xnodxxsmiley_wix

[McNeese72]

If you don't have your regular quarterback in, they'll bite.

The way they play defense, it shouldn't matter that much.

Doc

[McNeese72]

xnodxxsmiley_wix

Yep, the Lions are all smoke and mirrors, the Bearkats don't have to worry their little heads. xsmiley_wix


Doc

[Houndawg]

YSU right where I thought they should be.

BEAT NDSU!

You got off easy. After letting UNI's 3rd string come from behind you should be about 16-18..

[lionsrking2]

Yep, the Lions are all smoke and mirrors, the Bearkats don't have to worry their little heads. xsmiley_wix


Doc

Just hope we can find suitable quarters to hide our women and children. xeekx

[dystopiamembrane]

The way they play defense, it shouldn't matter that much.Boom.

[frozennorth]

The big sky is a joke.
the socon makes the big sky look like the sec this year

[fmrbearkat]

Yep, the Lions are all smoke and mirrors, the Bearkats don't have to worry their little heads. xsmiley_wix


Doc

I know its going to be a tough game but I think our guys will show up big. I know SELA is vastly improved but I just don't see them winning this game right now. Earlier in the year before the McNeese loss I wouldn't feel this way. I was worried about the McNeese game because of history and the fact y'all had a bye week. It's going to be a great game and I can't wait to be there to see it. If we do lose there will be no shame in it in my book. McNeese and SELA will both make waves in the playoffs!!

[dystopiamembrane]

the socon makes the big sky look like the sec this yearTrue.

[Pard4Life]

I gaurantee that LFN is voting Bucknell in the top 25...

[SeattleGriz]

I thought this was the toughest week of the year, especially for the Top 10...

- i dropped Fordham due to the Nebrich injury
- SHSU gives up point galore but wins
- YSU loses a tough roadie against a decent team. I didn't penalize them for it....
- SELA is rolling
- W&M might be the most undervalued team in FCS
- what do you do with CSU and CCU? What's the CCU QB situation?
- I've watched a bunch of BSC games and NAU is the second best team imo.

YSU lost to an unranked UNI team that their own fans are saying that they don't recognize half the names because they are so far down on the depth chart, and you didn't move them down?

xrotatehx

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

YSU lost to an unranked UNI team that their own fans are saying that they don't recognize half the names because they are so far down on the depth chart, and you didn't move them down?

xrotatehx

Ultimate trap game imo with NDSU this week. Conference road wins are tough to get...

Plus, they only have 1 FCS loss and 8 D1 W's. They've shown the ability to beat solid teams on the road and at home. They're also pretty balanced offensively and defensively. Imo, they're the second best MVFC with a real shot to beat NDSU at home. Even a 1-2 finish will leave them with a very sound 9-3 record....

I've had faith in the Guins all year....

[ngineer]

Can't knock having us get bumped by Maine. Just hope Nebrich is ok and that we win out since an undefeated regular season is something special no matter what.

What's the 'official' diagnosis on Nebrich? I heard he was out for good this year. I hope not.

[FargoBison]

What's the 'official' diagnosis on Nebrich? I heard he was out for good this year. I hope not.

All I've been able to find out is that he didn't suffer an ACL injury...

https://twitter.com/wfuvsports/status/400045818800918528

[lionsrking2]

Yep, the Lions are all smoke and mirrors, the Bearkats don't have to worry their little heads. xsmiley_wix


Doc

They beat us 70-0 last year, for Pete's sake! I mean, how much better can we be? We could be nine TDs better and still lose by a seven. Think I'm gonna hurl just thinkin' about it.xholyx

[smallcollegefbfan]

Discuss.

Shouldn't McNeese be ahead of SHSU and SLU should be ahead of McNeese and SHSU?

[McNeese72]

They beat us 70-0 last year, for Pete's sake! I mean, how much better can we be? We could be nine TDs better and still lose by a seven. Think I'm gonna hurl just thinkin' about it.xholyx

Might as well mail it in, you guys don't have a chance. :)

[MSU_77]

SLU will destroy SHSU. :)

[fmrbearkat]

SLU will destroy SHSU. :)

We will see about that xthumbsupx

[SeattleGriz]

Ultimate trap game imo with NDSU this week. Conference road wins are tough to get...

Plus, they only have 1 FCS loss and 8 D1 W's. They've shown the ability to beat solid teams on the road and at home. They're also pretty balanced offensively and defensively. Imo, they're the second best MVFC with a real shot to beat NDSU at home. Even a 1-2 finish will leave them with a very sound 9-3 record....

I've had faith in the Guins all year....

Fair enough. Not criticizing by the way, just curious.

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[FordhamFan]

What's the 'official' diagnosis on Nebrich? I heard he was out for good this year. I hope not.

Not an ACL, everything I hear points to meniscus. That would mean two weeks out. But I was dead wrong when I thought it was his ACL after Saturday so take everything with a grain of salt.

[Sam_Kats]

Should be a GREAT game this weekend in Hammond, LA.

[Grizalltheway]

I have trouble talking to a fan of a team that lost by 29 to the at best 2nd team in their conference. Get some consistency. One weaks a defensive struggle, next games a shootout. The big sky is a joke.

Yeah, a joke that will likely place the most (or T-most) teams in the playoffs. You truly are a moron. xcoolx