2013 Southern Conference Power Rankings/Predictions - Week Eleven.

[BlackNGoldR3v0lut10n]

I was 4-3 this week. Furman turned in a shocker while Georgia Southern was too much for Western Carolina. VMI showed me something against Gardner-Webb. Here's where I have it after this week with updated magic number in parenthesis.

1) Chattanooga (IN) -captures share of SoCon title
2) Furman (2 of 2) - Kept their playoff hopes alive (again) one more week.
3) Samford (1 of 2) - lost in a shocker against Furman.
4) Wofford (2 of 2) - saw their streak against Chattanooga come to an end.
5) The Citadel (eliminated) - Roasted the Phoenix.
6) Georgia Southern (ineligible) - Crushed some Catamounts
7) Appalachian State (ineligible) - Got swept by teams whose mascot is the Bulldogs
8) Western Carolina (eliminated) - Unable to continue their SoCon winning streak
9) Elon (eliminated) - got conquered by The Citadel
Mercer (2 of 2)* - won a close game against Jacksonville
VMI (eliminated) - shocked the Big South with win over Gardner-Webb
ETSU - men's soccer is 5-2-1 in conference play while volleyball is 15-1 in conference play

Predictions
VMI @ The Citadel - Keydets no match for Bulldogs.
Appalachian State @ Wofford - Terriers win to keep (their playoff) hopes alive.
Georgia Southern @ Elon - Eagles win Battle of the Birds
Furman @ Western Carolina - Paladins win and hope other teams fall.
Mercer @ Marist - Bears quest for first conference title in FB dies Saturday
Chattanooga @ Samford (Game of the Week) - Mocs win to clinch first title and playoff bid since 1984.
ETSU - Is it 2015 yet?

Playoff/SoCon Title Scenario
Chattanooga -wins SoCon title/autobid with win over Samford (2-0 against Wofford/Furman)
Wofford - wins share of SoCon with wins vs. Appalachian State and Furman (0-2 against UTC/Samford) and a Chattanooga loss
Samford - wins SoCon title/autobid with wins vs. Chattanooga and Elon (1-1 against Wofford/Furman)
Furman - wins share of SoCon title with wins vs. Western Carolina and Furman (1-1 against UTC/Samford) and a Chattanooga loss

[blueballs]

One minor edit: App split with the Georgia teams.

[DoWe]

Another edit maybe. "Keydets no match for Bulldogs".

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

Why on Earth did you pick Western to beat GSU in Statesboro?

[chattownmocs]

Your Wofford and Furman scenarios should say "and a chattanooga loss"

[walliver]

1) Chattanooga - taking care of business
2) Furman - probably peaking too late, but the hottest team in the conference now
3) Samford - fading rapidly to end the year
4) Wofford - hasn't played a complete game in 6 weeks. Somebody needs to tell them the first quarter is part of the game, not warm-up time
5) The Citadel - finally starting to play the way they should have all season
6) GSU - still fighting
7) ASU - Only 2 more weeks of misery
8) Western Carolina - GSU knocked them down a notch
9) Elon - Is VMI actually a step up

10) VMI - did something Wofford and Furman couldn't doxsmhx
11) Mercer - enjoy it while it lasts
12) ETSU - Real life restarts in 2016

Predictions:
VMI at Citadel - reality kicks the Keydets. Bullpups 31-13
Appalachian State at Wofford - If Terriers show up for the first quarter, we win 28-20, otherwise it could be another long day (I wish we had played FU and ASU early in the season)
Georgia Southern at Elon - GSU farewell tour is essentially over. Igglets whip the CAA whipping birds 35-10.
Furman at Western. I'll pull for the Cants, who will put up a valiant fight at home, but fall to the furples 31-28
Chatty at Samford - last week I would have picked a 14 point Sammy win, but mocs are on a roll and Sammy is stumbling. Pups bounce back to pull it out 31-30
Mercer at Marist - Mercer's great debut continues 35-14

Playoffs: Chatty is in.
Sammy likely.
FU less likely.
WC still technically in the hunt, but it doesn't look good.

If Chatty beats Samford, the conference may get no at-large bids unless FU or WC makes a big statement the next two weeks.

[ElCid]

1) Chattanooga - They keep winning
2) Furman - Wow, bet they wish they had a couple of those close games back
3) Samford - Off track somehow, probably thought they could skate for a couple of weeks and it bit them
4) The Citadel - Oh, what could have been
5) Wofford - knew they were not as good as last year and it is finally showing, something is missing, they are probably done but who knows, they could wake up again
6) Western Carolina - Can they win another?
7) Elon - Bye bye.

*Ga So - Knew they would not lose at home against Western regardless of their issues
*ASU - they did not look bad against Ga

VMI @ The Citadel - Always a tough played game, but Dogs are finally rolling and we like having the Silver Shako - 41-17
App St @ Wofford - Wofford needs this bad but App has got it somewhat together finally, App in a close one - 31-29
Ga So @ Elon - Everyone has had their way with Elon (oops, except the Furple). Eagles roll even with injuries - 34-13
UTC @ Samford - With the playoffs on the line, both fight hard, Samford finally gets back to winning at home - 17-16
Furman @ Western - Furman needs to keep winning to have a glimmer of hope - 31-20


As a side note, I find it funny how so many people have discounted the SOCON. Yeah we had a couple missteps early that were pretty high profile, but I think we have recovered and are looking OK. Besides, CCU and CSU are not the total patsies that most thought they were. And Chatty's first game loss was just that, a "first" game loss. I think they have recovered. Wofford's loss at Baylor looked comical, until FBS teams got beat just as bad. But the impression was already made in the minds of many. In any event, there is currently a great deal of parity in the conference, and I think whoever goes to the playoffs will represent us well. It could very well be just the autobid, but getting 2 in is not farfetched. As it is now, I would say Sammy and Chatty, but this is the SOCON, so who knows.

[SpeedkingATL]

One minor edit: App split with the Georgia teams.

They split with GA teams but went down to a bunch of Bulldogs this year.

[kdinva]

VMI 20 @ The Citadel 27
App St 22 @ Wofford 28
Ga So 38 @ Elon 6
UTC 24 @ Samford 30
Furman 27 @ WCU 13

[BlackNGoldR3v0lut10n]

Why on Earth did you pick Western to beat GSU in Statesboro?

I felt Western finally turned the corner and Georgia Southern was a down team with so many players injured so I took a flyer on Western.

[BlackNGoldR3v0lut10n]

If Chatty beats Samford, the conference may get no at-large bids unless FU or WC makes a big statement the next two weeks.

Best case scenario, Chattanooga and Samford both finish with eight wins and make the cut. I don't see either Furman or Wofford joining them.

[PaladinFan]

You guys are going to jinx us. Everyone picks us to lose every time out and it's working pretty well to this point.

[eaglewraith]

I felt Western finally turned the corner and Georgia Southern was a down team with so many players injured so I took a flyer on Western.

Western was outmatched even with all of our injuries. If we'd been healthy it would have been VERY ugly. One of the things that kept their drives going was mistakes by some of our inexperienced players. They definitely have made some improvements though and you can see it in the way they play. They'll turn a corner before too long, the way they played Wofford close and the first Socon win in years is proof of that.

[PaladinFan]

I'm quite frankly terrified of the Western game. I remember well the visit to Cullowhee in 2005 that turned into a debacle. With a big home game against Wofford next week, it wouldn't be surprising to see a young team like Furman look past the Cats.

[T-Dog]

it wouldn't be surprising to see a young team like Furman look past the Cats.

It also wouldn't be surprising if the Cats are looking past Furman to their trophy game.

[ElCid]

You guys are going to jinx us. Everyone picks us to lose every time out and it's working pretty well to this point.

OK, if you insist. Western should cream Furple this weekend as the jockeys look ahead to the rat dogs. Did I mention purple makes me puke? Better?

[PaladinFan]

It also wouldn't be surprising if the Cats are looking past Furman to their trophy game.

I imagine they'll be ready. Coach Fowler has them ready to go every week, and he's done a heckuva job. Probably has the youngest team in the league, took severe hits due to injury, and moved guys out of position to fill gaps. They started off slow out of the gate, but have really looked solid the past few weeks, especially on defense.

Furman has forced 13 turnovers the past four games against App, LSU, GSU, and Samford. They've held the SoCon's three top offenses to four touchdowns in 12 quarters of play. Had three defensive scores the past 4 games. They've been great.

[OL FU]

I imagine they'll be ready. Coach Fowler has them ready to go every week, and he's done a heckuva job. Probably has the youngest team in the league, took severe hits due to injury, and moved guys out of position to fill gaps. They started off slow out of the gate, but have really looked solid the past few weeks, especially on defense.

Furman has forced 13 turnovers the past four games against App, LSU, GSU, and Samford. They've held the SoCon's three top offenses to four touchdowns in 12 quarters of play. Had three defensive scores the past 4 games. They've been great.

BTW PF, kudos. You correctly had much more confidence in the Paladins than I did.

[PaladinFan]

BTW PF, kudos. You correctly had much more confidence in the Paladins than I did.

I've been really surprised as well. I think it really just falls on the coaching staff. They've overcome adversity and have really made this thing start to click. Particularly the job of Jimmy Lindsey on the DL.

I've been encouraged the last several seasons with recruiting. I think this is the best linebacking corps Furman has had since Killian/Ritter/Freeman. You are really starting to see flashes of Paladin teams of old out there.

Furman played a tough Samford team this weekend, and pretty much dominated them whistle to whistle. Andy Summerlin in my book is the first team all conference at QB, and he was getting battered around back there Saturday. You know you are doing something right when a QB as good as he is throws pass after pass off his back foot into coverage. Really good rundown of the Samford game here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpxAl6VGNro&feature=c4-overview&list=UUprLkD5Pj5pk45TVcpo7jKg

[T-Dog]

Furman in all black uniforms looks really wrong.

[hypercycloid]

Furman in all black uniforms looks really wrong.

Not as wrong as App would look in all purple. :)

I really liked the all black, and so do the players.

[PaladinFan]

Not as wrong as App would look in all purple. :)

I really liked the all black, and so do the players.

Whatever gets 18-22 year olds excited about football, its fine with me. I really wouldn't care if they were playing in pink tutus so long as they were winning football games.

[OL FU]

I am fine with it too. But if we have a black out day, I am still wearing purple:o

[SpeedkingATL]

This week's rankings:
1)UTC-Getting better every week.
2a)Samford-Going in the wrong direction.
2b)Furman-Most improved team over the last few games. Constantly turn their opponents into "turnover machines".
4)Wofford-Trying to hold on for dear life.
5)Citdogs-Team Sybil............again.
6)GaSo- Disappointing year, but still over 500.
7)App St-Playing better in the 2nd half of the season but not much to show for it.
8)WCU-Improvement but starting from the basement.
9)Elon-Play everyone pretty tough, just don't win.

This week:
GOTW- UTC @ Samford - Almost a playoff game as the loser is really on a playoff bubble. UTC has been trending up and Sammy has been trending down. The only advantage Sammy has is the home field and that just isn't a big deal in their very attractive but very small stadium with the well behaved crowd. UTC is starting to really hit on all cylinders and I expect the trend to continue. UTC rolls 31-17. Note: The Samford Baptist will likely have the Honey Mocs escorted off campus for indecent dancing and exposure.

VMI @ THE Citadel - VMI is its usual self (bad) and Citadel is its usual self (good one week, lousy the next). The Big South has had its way with the SoCon most of this year, but the Citdogs will buck that trend by running over, thru and around the Keydets. The Citadel cannon may run out of ammo for this one. Citdogs 41 VMI 17. Note: Because of recent events (fights) no VMI female cheerleaders will be allowed within 20 yards of any Citadel cadet.

App State @ Wofford- Another meaningless game after another loss for the Apps and the Ankle-biters are playing for their playoff lives. Apps have played okay the last 4 weeks but only have one W to show for it. Wofford has been just good enough to beat inferior competition most of the time but far from dominate in any phase of the game. Wofford has had the Apps number the last couple of years but me thinks that ends on Saturday. IF the Apps don't turn the ball over too much they should be able to pull off the mild upset in Sparkle-city. Apps win 28-24. Note: I look forward to my last trip to Wofford. I always enjoy the games there. I will stock Jack Daniels instead of Sailor Jerry and cheddar instead of Chez-whiz for the occasion at my tailgate. Pheasant wings will be served.

Furman @ WCU - A Furman team at high RPM against a Whee team stuck in neutral this weekend. I thought The Kats might turn the corner against the banged up Eagles last weekend but it didn't happen. Furman is playing better every week and actually, magically still has a shot at the autobid for the SoCon. I think the Furples catch WCU looking ahead to the Old Mountain Jug game against App next week and win going away 31-14. Note: Note to the few Furman fans traveling to Cullowhee; there is no valet parking at the stadium and there is a $10 corking fee for every bottle of wine opened in the city limits of Cullowhee.

Elon-2 hour scrimmage ends with no score.

[PaladinFan]

http://www.soconsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=209304977&DB_OEM_ID=4000

SoCon players of the week announced.

[citdog]

http://www.soconsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=209304977&DB_OEM_ID=4000

SoCon players of the week announced.


Nice honor for Cadet Ben Dupree.

[citdog]

I am fine with it too. But if we have a black out day, I am still wearing purple:o


Racist

[walliver]

Nice honor for Cadet Ben Dupree.

He has had a good career in Charleston. I'm glad we don't have to face him again. He didn't do much against us this year, but made a few ESPN-type runs against us last year.

[chattanoogamocs]

http://www.soconsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=209304977&DB_OEM_ID=4000

SoCon players of the week announced.

Both punters were outstanding in the Chattanooga/Wofford game...both did a great job of sticking their opponents inside the 10 yard line at least twice.

But the edge goes to Pollard with is 78 yard punt (averaging almost 55 yards per punt in the game)

And freshman Nakevion Leslie has been great since coming in to replace Gunner Miller at linebacker. The game winning INT/TD against ASU and a team high 14 tackles (and a sack) against Wofford. If there is one thing Coach Huesman knows for sure, it's linebackers (he being a former all-SoCon linebacker himself).

[OL FU]

Racist

No I am a Scalawagxnodx

[PaladinFan]

This place is a lot quieter when GSU and App State aren't so good. The chest thumping is notably less.

The constant banter will be missed next season.

[citdog]

This place is a lot quieter when GSU and App State aren't so good. The chest thumping is notably less.

The constant banter will be missed next season.

WHO? I've already forgotten them.

[walliver]

I'm sure the rowdy bunch from Mercer will liven things up ... Until they play a SoCon team.

But I wouldn't worry. Many of those we love to hate will come back to brag about how much fun is it to travel to Monroe LA.

[Saint3333]

This place is a lot quieter when GSU and App State aren't so good. The chest thumping is notably less.

The constant banter will be missed next season.

You still have chattown to hate and citdog to annoy, but yeah other than that it might get pretty boring.

[ElCid]

I have to admit, that I was wondering what would happen once our dearly departing brethren left. If this fall is any indication it will be even quieter. Any of you App St or Ga So bubbas going to visit once in a while? Or is hanging out with low class FCS passé?

[Saint3333]

We'll play one FCS opponent a year going forward, it may take awhile but I hope we can play some SoCon teams down the line.

[Apphole]

It takes a life-long regiment of antibiotics to keep me manageable. I may seem like I'm gone forever, but I will flare up when you least expect it. There is not cure for Apphole.

[walliver]

It takes a life-long regiment of antibiotics to keep me manageable. I may seem like I'm gone forever, but I will flare up when you least expect it. There is not cure for Apphole.

The word you mean is anti-psychotics.

I remember many moons ago when MTSU fans used to visit just to taunt ASU fans.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

WHO? I've already forgotten them.

Whether you want to or not, you will notice when the 3 teams that have won at least a share of 19 of the last 20 SoCon championships are no longer in the conference


I have to admit, that I was wondering what would happen once our dearly departing brethren left. If this fall is any indication it will be even quieter. Any of you App St or Ga So bubbas going to visit once in a while? Or is hanging out with low class FCS passé?

If nothing else, it will be interesting to see how the balance of power shifts with GSU and App State no longer in the mix and what kind of reputation the SoCon will get in the overall FCS landscape.

[SpeedkingATL]

I have to admit, that I was wondering what would happen once our dearly departing brethren left. If this fall is any indication it will be even quieter. Any of you App St or Ga So bubbas going to visit once in a while? Or is hanging out with low class FCS passé?

I'm sure I will continue to come around every now and then. I will miss the bi-yearly trips to Charleston as that is still the best road trip in the SoCon. I will still get to Wild Dunes occasionally for golf trips and will bug some of your Citdog tailgates if I attend a Citadel game on one of those trips.

[ThompsonThe]

Almost over. Then you won't have App State and GaSo to kick around anymore, at least not in the same context. Hope you have enjoyed it.
There are always up's and downs. Hope many of you get what you want, whatever that may be. Thing is, we will probably look more favorably
of our experiences in the FCS than most of you will. Doubt many will come back to post that much, and when we do we will probably be told by
some snot nosed new poster that we are on the wrong board. That's life. Give 'em hell FCS!

[walliver]

Whether you want to or not, you will notice when the 3 teams that have won at least a share of 19 of the last 20 SoCon championships are no longer in the conference


....

It was horrible the way the conference completely faded into oblivion when Marshall left. (I know you weren't talking about Elon and their 0 championships.)

During the last 20 years, Furman has won more conference championships than Marshall.
During the last 20 years, Wofford has won more conference championships than Marshall.
Overall, VMI, Chattanooga, The Citadel, Furman and Wofford have won more Southern Conference Championships than Marshall's grand total of 2.

Don't worry about us, we'll have our Chardonnay and Brie and enjoy ourselves at football games.

I do wish you would do us a favor and take Chattown with you, he keeps dropping his Doritos in the spinach dip.

[Saint3333]

When the SoCon had Marshall, Furman, App, and GSU it was no doubt the best 1AA conference. Up until the mid 2000's I would still argue it was with Wofford stepping up. Today the SoCon is 3rd best on average, the days of it being the best are unlikely. The shift will be to the Midwest and Big Sky, it is already occurring.

[CID1990]

When the SoCon had Marshall, Furman, App, and GSU it was no doubt the best 1AA conference. Up until the mid 2000's I would still argue it was with Wofford stepping up. Today the SoCon is 3rd best on average, the days of it being the best are unlikely. The shift will be to the Midwest and Big Sky, it is already occurring.

The sun will still rise

We will still play for the opportunity to participate in a playoffs

Whether the SoCon is the best or the worst, most people don't care

We will still play our rivals

And purple with still suck

[longtimemocfan]

VMI @ The Citadel - Easy win for Bulldogs
Appalachian State @ Wofford - Terriers have more to play for. Close game.
Georgia Southern @ Elon - Eagles should win this match-up.
Furman @ Western Carolina - Careful here Paladins. Has trap game written all over it. Western has nothing to lose. Furman has played very well lately with still another hill to climb. Can't afford a letdown here with your young club.
Chattanooga @ Samford (Game of the Week) - Maybe a homer pick. We should get Keon Wiliams back. Samford hasn't lost a conference game at home. A lot may depend on how well Samford's O-line protects Summerlin. He'll be facing a lot of heat. Despite losing 2 in a row Bulldogs still a very dangerous team.

[PaladinFan]

When the SoCon had Marshall, Furman, App, and GSU it was no doubt the best 1AA conference. Up until the mid 2000's I would still argue it was with Wofford stepping up. Today the SoCon is 3rd best on average, the days of it being the best are unlikely. The shift will be to the Midwest and Big Sky, it is already occurring.

Things change. In my opinion, the SoCon is just down. It's not a sinking ship, it's just not as good right now as it used to be.

I do think the conference will (like it always has) just adjust to the times. I think Furman and UTC are poised to become really strong programs that will take positions among the top 15 or so programs in the country. I would say that even if GSU and App were still playing SoCon football. I think Mercer has done a heckuva job in its first year, and is one of the FCS' top offenses (the schedule hasn't been a world breaker, but they are bunch of freshman playing established Pioneer teams and wearing them out).

My view is that it's just a new era. We'll still put two maybe three teams in the playoffs just like always. I'll miss watching the teams that are departing (except Elon, I've never cared about Elon), but the sun will come up for everyone. In a few years, a new crop of students will forget these rivalries ever existed.

[Saint3333]

The sun will still rise - yep

We will still play for the opportunity to participate in a playoffs - so will the NEC and Pioneer

Whether the SoCon is the best or the worst, most people don't care - you play sports to win

We will still play our rivals - yep, good add with VMI

And purple with still suck - without a doubt

[OL FU]

Hell, this is depressing. I am going to go talk bad about Pat Sullivan.xblehx

[walliver]

Hell, this is depressing. I am going to go talk bad about Pat Sullivan.xblehx

Pat Sullivan drove ASU, GSU, and Elon out of the conference. I've also heard he was involved with ECU's departure. He tried to get Marshall to stay.

[ThompsonThe]

The SoCon didn't want App State and GaSo to participate this year in the conference race. But they wanted to use them at the same time. So you get what you call red shirting and holding back 25 or more incoming recruits so that they can build up for the FBS. Basically out of the best recruiting class in the FCS App only played one or two freshman recruits. Only a position or two where they had no choice. In addition other red shirts and medical red shirts were done, having to give scholarships to walk on's just to keep the numbers up. Probably a lot of phone calls home from water boys telling their excited parents that they got a scholarship in football at App State. It was a painful decision they made this past summer, but one they thought necessary in order to compete adequately well next year in FBS since the 2013 recruiting period had already ended when we accepted the Sun Belt invitation. So basically App State and GaSo both lost their senior classes, both of which had multiple players now playing in the NFL, and have no freshman class playing this year. Normally any schools would take an extra year to recruit, but the Sun Belt demanded it be done that way that fast in order to have enough teams for a conference championship game. So you lose your senior class and have no freshmen. So basically if any school on this board thinks they can do really well with 1/2 their team, good for you.

[CID1990]

The SoCon didn't want App State and GaSo to participate this year in the conference race. But they wanted to use them at the same time. So you get what you call red shirting and holding back 25 or more incoming recruits so that they can build up for the FBS. Basically out of the best recruiting class in the FCS App only played one or two freshman recruits. Only a position or two where they had no choice. In addition other red shirts and medical red shirts were done, having to give scholarships to walk on's just to keep the numbers up. Probably a lot of phone calls home from water boys telling their excited parents that they got a scholarship in football at App State. It was a painful decision they made this past summer, but one they thought necessary in order to compete adequately well next year in FBS since the 2013 recruiting period had already ended when we accepted the Sun Belt invitation. So basically App State and GaSo both lost their senior classes, both of which had multiple players now playing in the NFL, and have no freshman class playing this year. Normally any schools would take an extra year to recruit, but the Sun Belt demanded it be done that way that fast in order to have enough teams for a conference championship game. So you lose your senior class and have no freshmen. So basically if any school on this board thinks they can do really well with 1/2 their team, good for you.

I'll take "excuses in 2000 words or less" for $200, Alex.

[T-Dog]

I'll take "excuses in 2000 words or less" for $200, Alex.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f271/tdog231x/soconappgaso.jpg

[citdog]

The SoCon didn't want App State and GaSo to participate this year in the conference race. But they wanted to use them at the same time. So you get what you call red shirting and holding back 25 or more incoming recruits so that they can build up for the FBS. Basically out of the best recruiting class in the FCS App only played one or two freshman recruits. Only a position or two where they had no choice. In addition other red shirts and medical red shirts were done, having to give scholarships to walk on's just to keep the numbers up. Probably a lot of phone calls home from water boys telling their excited parents that they got a scholarship in football at App State. It was a painful decision they made this past summer, but one they thought necessary in order to compete adequately well next year in FBS since the 2013 recruiting period had already ended when we accepted the Sun Belt invitation. So basically App State and GaSo both lost their senior classes, both of which had multiple players now playing in the NFL, and have no freshman class playing this year. Normally any schools would take an extra year to recruit, but the Sun Belt demanded it be done that way that fast in order to have enough teams for a conference championship game. So you lose your senior class and have no freshmen. So basically if any school on this board thinks they can do really well with 1/2 their team, good for you.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl-H7gtjZno

[ThompsonThe]

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[citdog]

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[ThompsonThe]

citdog - You can't handle the truth !



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FnO3igOkOk

[citdog]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4YLUVDPFbQ

[ThompsonThe]

So 2 wins out of a million makes The Citadel what, Western Carolina? Congrats.

[citdog]

So 2 wins out of a million makes The Citadel what, Western Carolina? Congrats.


2 in a row is called



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stvrWdFijZc

[walliver]

The SoCon didn't want App State and GaSo to participate this year in the conference race. But they wanted to use them at the same time. So you get what you call red shirting and holding back 25 or more incoming recruits so that they can build up for the FBS. Basically out of the best recruiting class in the FCS App only played one or two freshman recruits. Only a position or two where they had no choice. In addition other red shirts and medical red shirts were done, having to give scholarships to walk on's just to keep the numbers up. Probably a lot of phone calls home from water boys telling their excited parents that they got a scholarship in football at App State. It was a painful decision they made this past summer, but one they thought necessary in order to compete adequately well next year in FBS since the 2013 recruiting period had already ended when we accepted the Sun Belt invitation. So basically App State and GaSo both lost their senior classes, both of which had multiple players now playing in the NFL, and have no freshman class playing this year. Normally any schools would take an extra year to recruit, but the Sun Belt demanded it be done that way that fast in order to have enough teams for a conference championship game. So you lose your senior class and have no freshmen. So basically if any school on this board thinks they can do really well with 1/2 their team, good for you.

You blame the SoCon because your seniors either graduated or used up their eligibility? Doesn't that happen to every team, not just ASU and GSU?

The SoCon and SunBelt then conspire to force you to redshirt. Don't most teams redshirt most of their freshmen?

The SoCon then "uses" ASU and GSU? ASU and GSU are banned from the playoffs by the NCAA, and both schools knew that when they made their decisions. It was obviously too late for any of the departing or staying schools to redo their schedules.

You claim that ASU and GSU are playing with 1/2 of their teams. By your logic, almost every scholarship D-1 team (FCS and FBS) is paying with a half of a team. Alabama's seniors graduated and they redshirt most of their freshmen.

[ThompsonThe]

Guess we will have to depend on our old football coach at VMI to come through against the mighty Bulldogs. Go Keydets.
Win that gold what-ever-it-is.

[ThompsonThe]

Walliver,

Hey, it's my logic. Don't try to mess it up.
It gets me through this season.

[T-Dog]

Yeah I'm not even defending most of that.

We do have players redshirting who will whip the current starters next year, but it doesn't excuse poor play and a lack of motivation (although that has mostly changed). We'll play Wofford good this weekend and have a good chance at winning.

I do think the SoCon bogarted the standings. At first they said everyone would be put in regardless of record, just with an asterisk next to App and GaSo (like it should have been for Commisioner's Cup reasons), but then changed their minds and put them at the bottom of the standings with their conference record listed, even though officially the conference record will be 0-0.

[citdog]

Guess we will have to depend on our old football coach at VMI to come through against the mighty Bulldogs. Go Keydets.
Win that gold what-ever-it-is.


sparky couldn't beat us with the South Carolina Gamecocks! We'll be keeping the SILVER Shako



http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/194/files/2013/05/Silver-Shako.jpg

[DoWe]

Is the Shako the cap or the dildo?

[ASU_Fanatic]

1. Chattanooga
2. Furman
3. Samford
4. Wofford
5. Citadel
6. App State
7. Georgia Southern
8. WCU
9. Elon

Citadel 31 VMI 3
App State 24 Wofford 20 - App is getting better and since Wofford's playoff hopes are all but gone I like App to pull off a road upset
GaSo 40 Elon 21
UTC 19 Samford 16
Furman 21 ​WCU 14

[citdog]

Is the Shako the cap or the dildo?


It's the COVER and the measurements of the 'dildo' are 52-28

[ThompsonThe]

So, it's silver, not gold.
Just that thing sticking up above the cap or hat aye.
Phallic symbol maybe?

[citdog]

So, it's silver, not gold.
Just that thing sticking up above the cap or hat aye.
Phallic symbol maybe?

It's made of felt. Cadet Privates and NCO's wear those. I once Heeled and Soled a corndog from the mess hall and wore it to parade a few times. Cadet Officers wear this......


http://worthopedia.s3.amazonaws.com/images/thumbnails2/1/0511/07/1_a8fb7c558b367f409e136d7de923451b.jpg

[DoWe]

It's made of felt. Cadet Privates and NCO's wear those. I once Heeled and Soled a corndog from the mess hall and wore it to parade a few times. Cadet Officers wear this......


http://worthopedia.s3.amazonaws.com/images/thumbnails2/1/0511/07/1_a8fb7c558b367f409e136d7de923451b.jpg

I take it you were not a Cadet Ociffer?

[citdog]

I take it you were not a Cadet Ociffer?

You would be correct

[ThompsonThe]

Was it the Keydets lady cheerleaders that beat up The Citadel cheerleaders.

[ThompsonThe]

Imagine your guys couldn't fight back because they were girls.

[citdog]

Was it the Keydets lady cheerleaders that beat up The Citadel cheerleaders.


It was men from The Citadel who beat up your boys the last two seasons. They tried to fight back but were not tough enough.

[Milktruck74]

Maybe it has been 15 years, but I still hate Marshall!!! Every time I eat too much salad, I'm reminded of their colors and the smell of their cheerleaders! Even though they faded into FBS obscurity to pop up ever 4 or 5 years at a December 14th Bowl game, I HATE THEM!!!

[CID1990]

Maybe it has been 15 years, but I still hate Marshall!!! Every time I eat too much salad, I'm reminded of their colors and the smell of their cheerleaders! Even though they faded into FBS obscurity to pop up ever 4 or 5 years at a December 14th Bowl game, I HATE THEM!!!

I watched the movie and found myself pulling for Xavier.

[ThompsonThe]

At least we agree on some things.
Marshall has always been, and will always be the team that I hate worse than any other.
The MAC posters say that MU had 99 NCAA violations either the first or second time they left the MAC.
Most for recruiting violations. Think they just went off violation sanctions again.

[walliver]

At least we agree on some things.
Marshall has always been, and will always be the team that I hate worse than any other.
The MAC posters say that MU had 99 NCAA violations either the first or second time they left the MAC.
Most for recruiting violations. Think they just went off violation sanctions again.

I believe they were kicked out of the MAC the first time for unrepentant cheating.

[OL FU]

I believe they were kicked out of the MAC the first time for unrepentant cheating.

One of the reasons I get pissed everytime people give them love on this board. Yes they had a really good playoff run (mainly because they always played in Huntington). Yes, they had really good teams but people speak of their FCS domination while they never even dominated the Socon. and the biggest issue, they cheated to win. kudos to the Team that shall not be named.


People need to realize that the 1996 Marshall team was not the typical Marshall team except for they fact that the got there by breaking the effin' rules. As they say on the uffp..... Marsha blows.

[PaladinFan]

One of the reasons I get pissed everytime people give them love on this board. Yes they had a really good playoff run (mainly because they always played in Huntington). Yes, they had really good teams but people speak of their FCS domination while they never even dominated the Socon. and the biggest issue, they cheated to win. kudos to the Team that shall not be named.


People need to realize that the 1996 Marshall team was not the typical Marshall team except for they fact that the got there by breaking the effin' rules. As they say on the uffp..... Marsha blows.

Having Randy Moss didn't hurt.

[OL FU]

Having Randy Moss didn't hurt.

Think he ever saw the inside of a classroomxconfusedx

[Sir William]

One of the reasons I get pissed everytime people give them love on this board. Yes they had a really good playoff run (mainly because they always played in Huntington). Yes, they had really good teams but people speak of their FCS domination while they never even dominated the Socon. and the biggest issue, they cheated to win. kudos to the Team that shall not be named.


People need to realize that the 1996 Marshall team was not the typical Marshall team except for they fact that the got there by breaking the effin' rules. As they say on the uffp..... Marsha blows.

You got dat right!

I was watching the Marshall-Tulsa game on TV last night. They were honoring the 1970 team killed in the plane crash. An emotional part of me wanted to pull for Marshall, but in the end I could not - b/c I know Marshall. Now, I have no idea what Marshall and especially its fans were like prior to 1970 - I only know what they were like in the 80s and 90s. They may have often been "winners" (I am using the term loosely) on the scoreboard, but they were some of the biggest losers in life I have ever encountered. Worst and most ungracious fan base ever! Jackasses to the very last one! And when they didn't win...oh the whining from the likes of George Chaump, Jim Donnan, Bob Pruett, etc.

And as OL FU accurately noted - Marshall never, never dominated the SoCon.

[OL FU]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130416/ex-uga-coach-jim-donnan-charged-in-ponzi-scheme.ap/

One of the many class guys that coached the Blundering Turds.

[SpeedkingATL]

Well I guess all of us SoCon old timers have found something we can actually agree upon....The Thundering Turd.

[OL FU]

Well I guess all of us SoCon old timers have found something we can actually agree upon....The Thundering Turd.

No doubt. I don't miss them. I will on the other hand miss you guys and GSU.

[Sir William]

No doubt. I don't miss them. I will on the other hand miss you guys and GSU.

Same here.

[citdog]

Well I guess all of us SoCon old timers have found something we can actually agree upon....The Thundering Turd.


you are NOT an old timer in the Southern Conference. won't be missing you or pigs ass at all.

[CID1990]

Now, I have no idea what Marshall and especially its fans were like prior to 1970

The team that left a smokey hole in the ground was at the time under NCAA scrutiny, so no change there.

Their fans were just as bush league back then as they are now.

[ThompsonThe]

No doubt. I don't miss them. I will on the other hand miss you guys and GSU.

I had wished for years the whole Southern Conference would go FBS so that we could all stay together. Even with citdog yakking along, going to miss him - hard to believe.
Lot of people said and still do that the reason we didn't join East Carolina back in the 1978 to 1982 years in "Major College Football" was because our people didn't want to quit trying to beat Furman.
Which was almost impossible back then, and recently also for us.

[Apphole]

you are NOT an old timer in the Southern Conference. won't be missing you or pigs ass at all.

Yep. All the true SmallCon old timers moved up to the FBS long ago. I think they're called the SEC and ACC now.

[ThompsonThe]

Back to Marsha U though. I have never hated a team or school like I hate them. We have a great winning record against them, 14 wins and 8 losses even with all the FBS vs FCS losses, but any of their posters want to point out the last time we played when they had Randy Moss and Chad Pennington and managed to beat us.