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CassBison
October 1st, 2013, 11:14 AM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/

BisonTru
October 1st, 2013, 12:35 PM
Movin back where we ended last year. Compughterratings has NDSU at 23. http://www.compughterratings.com/CFB/ratings

achrist70
October 1st, 2013, 12:40 PM
Looks like we have a #1 v. #2 FCS matchup this weekend!

Lehigh Football Nation
October 1st, 2013, 12:52 PM
130
Ferris St (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Ferris%20St)
GLIAC
158
3
1
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130
98
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131
North Carolina A&T (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/North%20Carolina%20A%26T)
Mid-Eastern
134
3
0
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131
356
158


132
Tulane (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Tulane)
C-USA
175
3
2
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132
107
142


133
Indiana PA (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Indiana%20PA)
Pennsylvania State
185
4
0
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133
316
172


134
San Jose St (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/San%20Jose%20St)
MWC
90
1
3
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134
122
85


135
Middle Tennessee St (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Middle%20Tennessee%20St)
C-USA
85
3
2
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135
90
170


136
UNC-Pembroke (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/UNC-Pembroke)
Div II Independents
167
4
0
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136
213
240


137
South Carolina St (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/South%20Carolina%20St)
Mid-Eastern
140
3
2
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137
181
111


138
Villanova (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Villanova)
CAA
164
2
2
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138
140
48


139
Minnesota-Duluth (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Minnesota-Duluth)
Northern Sun
161
3
1
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139
142
149


140
Cal Poly SLO (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Cal%20Poly%20SLO)
Big Sky
178
2
2
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140
155
115



Remember, kids, Ferris State is better than a good hunk of the FCS Top 25! xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

xlolx xlolx

darell1976
October 1st, 2013, 01:01 PM
130

Ferris St (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Ferris%20St)

GLIAC

158

3

1

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130

98

291



131

North Carolina A&T (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/North%20Carolina%20A%26T)

Mid-Eastern

134

3


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131

356

158



132

Tulane (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Tulane)

C-USA

175

3

2

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132

107

142



133

Indiana PA (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Indiana%20PA)

Pennsylvania State

185

4


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133

316

172



134

San Jose St (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/San%20Jose%20St)

MWC

90

1

3

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134

122

85



135

Middle Tennessee St (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Middle%20Tennessee%20St)

C-USA

85

3

2

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135

90

170



136

UNC-Pembroke (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/UNC-Pembroke)

Div II Independents

167

4


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136

213

240



137

South Carolina St (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/South%20Carolina%20St)

Mid-Eastern

140

3

2

http://www.compughterratings.com/UpArrow1.gif3

137

181

111



138

Villanova (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Villanova)

CAA

164

2

2

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138

140

48



139

Minnesota-Duluth (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Minnesota-Duluth)

Northern Sun

161

3

1

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139

142

149



140

Cal Poly SLO (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Cal%20Poly%20SLO)

Big Sky

178

2

2

http://www.compughterratings.com/UpArrow1.gif38

140

155

115




Remember, kids, Ferris State is better than a good hunk of the FCS Top 25! xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

xlolx xlolx

And why is Duluth higher than Cal Poly?xconfusedx

aces1180
October 1st, 2013, 01:02 PM
130
Ferris St (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Ferris%20St)
GLIAC
158
3
1
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130
98
291


131
North Carolina A&T (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/North%20Carolina%20A%26T)
Mid-Eastern
134
3
0
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131
356
158


132
Tulane (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Tulane)
C-USA
175
3
2
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132
107
142


133
Indiana PA (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Indiana%20PA)
Pennsylvania State
185
4
0
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133
316
172


134
San Jose St (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/San%20Jose%20St)
MWC
90
1
3
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134
122
85


135
Middle Tennessee St (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Middle%20Tennessee%20St)
C-USA
85
3
2
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135
90
170


136
UNC-Pembroke (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/UNC-Pembroke)
Div II Independents
167
4
0
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136
213
240


137
South Carolina St (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/South%20Carolina%20St)
Mid-Eastern
140
3
2
http://www.compughterratings.com/UpArrow1.gif3
137
181
111


138
Villanova (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Villanova)
CAA
164
2
2
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138
140
48


139
Minnesota-Duluth (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Minnesota-Duluth)
Northern Sun
161
3
1
http://www.compughterratings.com/UpArrow1.gif22
139
142
149


140
Cal Poly SLO (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Cal%20Poly%20SLO)
Big Sky
178
2
2
http://www.compughterratings.com/UpArrow1.gif38
140
155
115



Remember, kids, Ferris State is better than a good hunk of the FCS Top 25! xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

xlolx xlolx

Having watched Ferris State play in person, they would knock off A LOT of FCS squads, including some that are currently in the Top 25. No lie.

darell1976
October 1st, 2013, 01:03 PM
Having watched Ferris State play in person, they would knock off A LOT of FCS squads, including some that are currently in the Top 25. No lie.

Would they knock off Cal Poly, Villanova, and Tulane?xlolx

Professor Chaos
October 1st, 2013, 01:06 PM
Having watched Ferris State play in person, they would knock off A LOT of FCS squads, including some that are currently in the Top 25. No lie.
I don't know if I'd say that but they'd be competitive with middle tier FCS teams (think Missouri St/Indiana St). They were much better than Delaware St but that's not saying much. I think they looked better than they were against the Bison defense because our guys mailed it in after going up 35-0 late in the 2nd quarter and to Ferris St's credit they played hard until well into the 4th. If the NDSU defense would've played with the same amount of effort for the whole game against Ferris St that they did against South Dakota St it would've been a 56-0 final.

aces1180
October 1st, 2013, 01:10 PM
Would they knock off Cal Poly, Villanova, and Tulane?xlolx

I haven't seen the teams you mentioned play, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit...Ferris State's offense (and especially their QB) is legit. I do know there are much better than Delaware State and Valpo.

darell1976
October 1st, 2013, 01:17 PM
I haven't seen the teams you mentioned play, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit...Ferris State's offense (and especially their QB) is legit. I do know there are much better than Delaware State and Valpo.

I am sure playing Lake Erie, Ashland, and Walsh equals playing teams like FBS and FCS teams like the list shows. Hold on Aces...xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlo lx Okay I feel better.

BisonBacker
October 1st, 2013, 01:21 PM
Not being smacky at all but I can tell you this much they'd be running all over un_'s defense for sure. That is if you want to call what they put on the field a defense.

BisonBacker
October 1st, 2013, 01:22 PM
Oh and as far as Sagarin rankings I put zero stock in that.

darell1976
October 1st, 2013, 01:24 PM
Not being smacky at all but I can tell you this much they'd be running all over un_'s defense for sure. That is if you want to call what they put on the field a defense.

So would have the high schools in ND. But as far as them beating Tulane, Villanova and Cal Poly? C'mon. Sagarin rankings are stupid. They have UND over some FBS teams. Even I wouldn't do that.

UNIFanSince1983
October 1st, 2013, 01:25 PM
Ferris St. will drop significantly when the start playing more conference games. I am pretty sure a lot of their ranking right now has to do with just playing NDSU. Computer rankings are inherently bad early on due to not enough connections being made between teams. Check back week 8 and tell me if Ferris St. is still ahead of a lot of these teams.

aces1180
October 1st, 2013, 01:27 PM
I am sure playing Lake Erie, Ashland, and Walsh equals playing teams like FBS and FCS teams like the list shows. Hold on Aces...xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlo lx Okay I feel better.

I never said they would beat the teams on this list, did I? I said they could knock off a lot of FCS squads and that could include some who are in the bottom of the top 25. Read before you write, _arrel.

darell1976
October 1st, 2013, 01:30 PM
I never said they would beat the teams on this list, did I? I said they could knock off a lot of FCS squads and that could include some who are in the bottom of the top 25. Read before you write, _arrel.

You said it wouldn't surprise you one bit because their offense is legit. Yep, them putting up 50 on Walsh would equal them knocking off Tulane. _ces

aces1180
October 1st, 2013, 01:34 PM
You said it wouldn't surprise you one bit because their offense is legit. Yep, them putting up 50 on Walsh would equal them knocking off Tulane. _ces

Tulane isn't an FCS school, _arrel. Nice try.

And I stand by the fact that their offense is legit, as I watched them play for three quarters against the #1 defense in FCS. Did the Bison D have an off day? Probably. But I wouldn't be surprised to see them in the DII playoffs this year.

darell1976
October 1st, 2013, 01:36 PM
Tulane isn't an FCS school, _arrel. Nice try.

And I stand by the fact that their offense is legit, as I watched them play for three quarters against the #1 defense in FCS. Did the Bison D have an off day? Probably. But I wouldn't be surprised to see them in the DII playoffs this year.

They were a part of my list _ces. Nice try yourself.

aces1180
October 1st, 2013, 01:40 PM
They were a part of my list _ces. Nice try yourself.

Right...And to repeat, I never said that FSU would beat any of those teams on that list, so why do you keep bringing that up? I said they would beat a lot of FCS teams and I stand by that. Again, read what I wrote before you post. Nowhere did I say Ferris State would beat any of those teams on your list. Comprende?

344Johnson
October 1st, 2013, 01:41 PM
You said it wouldn't surprise you one bit because their offense is legit. Yep, them putting up 50 on Walsh would equal them knocking off Tulane. _ces

What would them putting 50 on Walsh equate to on Teh University? 63?

darell1976
October 1st, 2013, 01:45 PM
Right...And to repeat, I never said that FSU would beat any of those teams on that list, so why do you keep bringing that up? I said they would beat a lot of FCS teams and I stand by that. Again, read what I wrote before you post. Nowhere did I say Ferris State would beat any of those teams on your list. Comprende?

Here is your response to the teams I listed (Cal Poly, Villanova, and Tulane)....


I haven't seen the teams you mentioned play, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit...Ferris State's offense (and especially their QB) is legit. I do know there are much better than Delaware State and Valpo.

So it wouldn't surprise you to see Ferris State go down to New Orleans and knock off Tulane, or fly out to SLO and beat Cal Poly because their offense rips up DII teams. _ces that sounds like you are saying they could beat them to me.

clenz
October 1st, 2013, 01:52 PM
Ferris St. will drop significantly when the start playing more conference games. I am pretty sure a lot of their ranking right now has to do with just playing NDSU. Computer rankings are inherently bad early on due to not enough connections being made between teams. Check back week 8 and tell me if Ferris St. is still ahead of a lot of these teams.
They won't be.


Watching these NDSU fans talk about Ferris State is like watching JSU talk about West Alabama on CS.

Apparently they are as fast/quick, if not more so, than any FCS teams he's ever seen - with better skill players than SHSU

JSUBison
October 1st, 2013, 01:58 PM
They were a part of my list _ces. Nice try yourself.


Here is your response to the teams I listed (Cal Poly, Villanova, and Tulane)....

So it wouldn't surprise you to see Ferris State go down to New Orleans and knock off Tulane, or fly out to SLO and beat Cal Poly because their offense rips up DII teams. _ces that sounds like you are saying they could beat them to me.

Somebody doesn't get the joke....

BisonBacker
October 1st, 2013, 01:59 PM
So would have the high schools in ND. But as far as them beating Tulane, Villanova and Cal Poly? C'mon. Sagarin rankings are stupid. They have UND over some FBS teams. Even I wouldn't do that.

Which is why I said I put zero stock in this ranking. Ferris State did have a very good QB and running game. They would have embarrassed you guys . Not saying they would have beat you or won but I wouldn't be putting money on you guys either.

BisonBacker
October 1st, 2013, 02:02 PM
They won't be.


Watching these NDSU fans talk about Ferris State is like watching JSU talk about West Alabama on CS.

Apparently they are as fast/quick, if not more so, than any FCS teams he's ever seen - with better skill players than SHSU

Talk about a stretch. You do realize it's not like a DII team hasn't ever gone to an FCS team's house and beat them. Cough un_ Cough UNI Choke.....

aces1180
October 1st, 2013, 02:02 PM
Here is your response to the teams I listed (Cal Poly, Villanova, and Tulane)....

So it wouldn't surprise you to see Ferris State go down to New Orleans and knock off Tulane, or fly out to SLO and beat Cal Poly because their offense rips up DII teams. _ces that sounds like you are saying they could beat them to me.

Do I think they would beat them? No. Would I be surprised if they pulled off the upset? No.

I realize you don't like Sagarin, but I'm willing to be bet you haven't watched Cal-Poly, Tulane or Villanova play a game this year...I have seen Ferris State and I think their offense would be able to compete with a lot of teams.

aces1180
October 1st, 2013, 02:09 PM
Somebody doesn't get the joke....

No doubt, xlolx

darell1976
October 1st, 2013, 02:17 PM
They won't be.


Watching these NDSU fans talk about Ferris State is like watching JSU talk about West Alabama on CS.

Apparently they are as fast/quick, if not more so, than any FCS teams he's ever seen - with better skill players than SHSU

Its amazing how that happens.

Nova09
October 1st, 2013, 03:16 PM
130
Ferris St (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Ferris%20St)
GLIAC
158
3
1
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130
98
291


131
North Carolina A&T (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/North%20Carolina%20A%26T)
Mid-Eastern
134
3
0
http://www.compughterratings.com/UpArrow1.gif3
131
356
158


132
Tulane (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Tulane)
C-USA
175
3
2
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132
107
142


133
Indiana PA (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Indiana%20PA)
Pennsylvania State
185
4
0
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133
316
172


134
San Jose St (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/San%20Jose%20St)
MWC
90
1
3
http://www.compughterratings.com/DownArrow1.gif44
134
122
85


135
Middle Tennessee St (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Middle%20Tennessee%20St)
C-USA
85
3
2
http://www.compughterratings.com/DownArrow1.gif50
135
90
170


136
UNC-Pembroke (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/UNC-Pembroke)
Div II Independents
167
4
0
http://www.compughterratings.com/UpArrow1.gif31
136
213
240


137
South Carolina St (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/South%20Carolina%20St)
Mid-Eastern
140
3
2
http://www.compughterratings.com/UpArrow1.gif3
137
181
111


138
Villanova (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Villanova)
CAA
164
2
2
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138
140
48


139
Minnesota-Duluth (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Minnesota-Duluth)
Northern Sun
161
3
1
http://www.compughterratings.com/UpArrow1.gif22
139
142
149


140
Cal Poly SLO (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Cal%20Poly%20SLO)
Big Sky
178
2
2
http://www.compughterratings.com/UpArrow1.gif38
140
155
115



Remember, kids, Ferris State is better than a good hunk of the FCS Top 25! xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

xlolx xlolx

What are you even referencing? Sagarin has Nova 93rd overall, 8th in FCS, and he only ranks DI.

Twentysix
October 1st, 2013, 03:23 PM
130

Ferris St (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Ferris%20St)

GLIAC

158

3

1

http://www.compughterratings.com/UpArrow1.gif28

130

98

291



131

North Carolina A&T (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/North%20Carolina%20A%26T)

Mid-Eastern

134

3


http://www.compughterratings.com/UpArrow1.gif3

131

356

158



132

Tulane (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Tulane)

C-USA

175

3

2

http://www.compughterratings.com/UpArrow1.gif43

132

107

142



133

Indiana PA (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Indiana%20PA)

Pennsylvania State

185

4


http://www.compughterratings.com/UpArrow1.gif52

133

316

172



134

San Jose St (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/San%20Jose%20St)

MWC

90

1

3

http://www.compughterratings.com/DownArrow1.gif44

134

122

85



135

Middle Tennessee St (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Middle%20Tennessee%20St)

C-USA

85

3

2

http://www.compughterratings.com/DownArrow1.gif50

135

90

170



136

UNC-Pembroke (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/UNC-Pembroke)

Div II Independents

167

4


http://www.compughterratings.com/UpArrow1.gif31

136

213

240



137

South Carolina St (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/South%20Carolina%20St)

Mid-Eastern

140

3

2

http://www.compughterratings.com/UpArrow1.gif3

137

181

111



138

Villanova (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Villanova)

CAA

164

2

2

http://www.compughterratings.com/UpArrow1.gif26

138

140

48



139

Minnesota-Duluth (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Minnesota-Duluth)

Northern Sun

161

3

1

http://www.compughterratings.com/UpArrow1.gif22

139

142

149



140

Cal Poly SLO (http://www.compughterratings.com/stats/CFB/2013-2014/Cal%20Poly%20SLO)

Big Sky

178

2

2

http://www.compughterratings.com/UpArrow1.gif38

140

155

115




Remember, kids, Ferris State is better than a good hunk of the FCS Top 25! xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

xlolx xlolx

That is accurate, or it could be. Ferris had a really well oiled O that had a lot more luck than SDSU against NDSU. Anyway, I think they would have beaten Del St by 30 or 40 points. Idk if they would beat someone like cal poly.

dystopiamembrane
October 1st, 2013, 03:23 PM
Oh and as far as Sagarin rankings I put zero stock in that.
Zero?!?

BisonBacker
October 1st, 2013, 03:43 PM
Zero?!?

At this point in the season pretty much.

bisonboone11
October 1st, 2013, 03:50 PM
What are you even referencing? Sagarin has Nova 93rd overall, 8th in FCS, and he only ranks DI.

I believe he's referencing http://www.compughterratings.com/CFB/ratings

dystopiamembrane
October 1st, 2013, 08:27 PM
At this point in the season pretty much.
What is it about this point in the season?

Hammerhead
October 1st, 2013, 08:48 PM
Sagarin did predict K-State would be NDSU and predicted the Bison would beat the Bunnies by something like 5 points so I guess the Bison should be in the top 10 by now.

frozennorth
October 1st, 2013, 09:19 PM
Somebody doesn't get the joke....
darrell doesn't get much.

Southern Bison
October 1st, 2013, 09:27 PM
darrell doesn't get much.

He should really have a heart-to-heart with his left hand about his needs...