AGS Poll Results - Preseason 2013

[AGSPoll]

1 North Dakota State Bison 1474 (58)
2 Sam Houston State Bearkats 1340 (1)
3 Montana State Bobcats 1267
4 Eastern Washington Eagles 1227
5 Central Arkansas Bears 1049
6 Villanova Wildcats 1041
7 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 1036
8 Wofford Terriers 945
9 Cal Poly Mustangs 911
10 Illinois State Redbirds 875
11 Towson Tigers 871
12 New Hampshire Wildcats 729
13 Stony Brook Seawolves 708
14 Richmond Spiders 700
15 Northern Iowa Panthers 533
16 Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 510
17 James Madison Dukes 460
18 Montana Grizzlies 382
19 Eastern Illinois Panthers 320
20 Chattanooga Mocs 301
21 Lehigh Mountain Hawks 286
22 Wagner Seahawks 218
23 Youngstown State Penguins 216
24 Coastal Carolina Chanticleers 211
25 Eastern Kentucky Colonels 198


Just a bit outside:

26 The Citadel Bulldogs 182
27 Colgate Raiders 168
28 Bethune-Cookman Wildcats 135
29 Albany Great Danes 103
30 McNeese State Cowboys 98
31 Indiana State Sycamores 97
32 Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens 85
33 Samford Bulldogs 74
34 Tennessee State Tigers 70
35 Southern Illinois Salukis 65
36 Arkansas Pine Bluff Golden Lions 32
37 Harvard Crimson 31
38 Liberty Flames 26
39 Fordham Rams 21
40 William & Mary Tribe 20

[DJKyR0]

Which rube is giving SHSU a number-one vote? Was 39-13 not convincing enough?

[citdog]

Which rube is giving SHSU a number-one vote? Was 39-13 not convincing enough?



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[FCS_pwns_FBS]

This is my ballot

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Sam Houston State Bearkats
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: Wofford Terriers
6: Central Arkansas Bears
7: Montana State Bobcats
8: Northern Iowa Panthers
9: Illinois State Redbirds
10: Cal Poly Mustangs
11: Towson Tigers
12: Villanova Wildcats
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: Chattanooga Mocs
15: Stony Brook Seawolves
16: Samford Bulldogs
17: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
18: Richmond Spiders
19: The Citadel Bulldogs
20: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
21: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
22: Youngstown State Penguins
23: Eastern Illinois Panthers
24: Tennessee State Tigers
25: Wagner Seahawks

And I won't apologize for having 4 eligible SoCon teams in my top 25. I would put El Cid and Samford up against a lot of the teams you will be seeing in people's ballots near the bottom of the top 25.

BTW, I'll be curious to see if people that think GSU and App. should not be eligible for votes because they are at an unfair advantage (fair enough I guess even though both teams likely won't have a single player who wouldn't be on their teams if it were not for the lifted scholarship limit) will punish the eligible Socon teams for losing to App. State and GSU by knocking them down in the rankings or not considering them to be ranked at all.

[bjtheflamesfan]

Apologies for missing the voting this weekend, Spent the weekend job searching and helping the wife with our now 8 week old son

[caribbeanhen]

I thought the CAA was dead - I see 10 teams listed and 7 in the top 22.... just like the old days

[ursus arctos horribilis]

This is my ballot

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Sam Houston State Bearkats
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: Wofford Terriers
6: Central Arkansas Bears
7: Montana State Bobcats
8: Northern Iowa Panthers
9: Illinois State Redbirds
10: Cal Poly Mustangs
11: Towson Tigers
12: Villanova Wildcats
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: Chattanooga Mocs
15: Stony Brook Seawolves
16: Samford Bulldogs
17: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
18: Richmond Spiders
19: The Citadel Bulldogs
20: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
21: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
22: Youngstown State Penguins
23: Eastern Illinois Panthers
24: Tennessee State Tigers
25: Wagner Seahawks

And I won't apologize for having 4 eligible SoCon teams in my top 25. I would put El Cid and Samford up against a lot of the teams you will be seeing in people's ballots near the bottom of the top 25.

BTW, I'll be curious to see if people that think GSU and App. should not be eligible for votes because they are at an unfair advantage (fair enough I guess even though both teams likely won't have a single player who wouldn't be on their teams if it were not for the lifted scholarship limit) will punish the eligible Socon teams for losing to App. State and GSU by knocking them down in the rankings or not considering them to be ranked at all.

Samford and The Cit were on most people's ballots and were definitely on mine.

I don't know if people will punish teams for losing to App or GSU any less than they would have previously or not but it's probably gonna depend on what happened on the rest of their ballot.

[SU DOG]

Apologies for missing the voting this weekend, Spent the weekend job searching and helping the wife with our now 8 week old son

I missed also. Does this ballot count as one of 2 missed and you are out, or are the rules different than a couple of years ago when I last participated? Sorry if I overlooked instructions.

[CID1990]

Week #2 is going to have poll implications when El Cid breaks the curse and sends the rat dogs back to Sparkle City with a L


Sent from the center of the universe.

[BEAR]

Dang it.. my first year in the voting and I missed the preseason poll. Out of town. I WILL make the next one!

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I like UCA, but I'm stunned they're at No. 5.

[BEAR]

I like UCA, but I'm stunned they're at No. 5.

Leaving out the transition teams, I can see it. Very good team that fell short in Ga. last year. Big chip on their shoulder and the talent to stay top 5. Of course the SLC will rotate talent and someone else will move up the next few years.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Leaving out the transition teams, I can see it. Very good team that fell short in Ga. last year. Big chip on their shoulder and the talent to stay top 5.

I agree. I had UCA ranked very high in my poll as well.

I found it extremely difficult to rank teams outside of the Top 6/7. I really like NDSU, Cal Poly Villanova, Richmond, UCA, SHSU and Wofford, after that, not so much....

I had Fordham #18 and Lehigh #21.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Not to be a hater but MSU is ranked too high again...

[TheRevSFA]

I like UCA, but I'm stunned they're at No. 5.

Why? They beat Sam last year in Conway (and Sam has to travel there again)

They have been in the playoffs back to back years

They won the SLC title with their only loss to SFA in a monsoon (a foot of rain fell on that saturday and myself and UCABear tailgated through it)

They have a great QB and did not lose much on their team.

[BEAR]

But its still an ugly field.... xlolx

[TheRevSFA]

But its still an ugly field.... xlolx

I will never...ever....ever...say that the field in Conway looks good. Ever..

[IBleedYellow]

Man, I'm nervous to post my pre-season poll. You guys would probably tear it apart.

[bluehenbillk]

Too High:
EWU
Wofford
Stony Brook
No Arizona
Albany

Too Low:
Richmond
Montana
YSU
McNeese

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Too High:
EWU
Wofford
Stony Brook
No Arizona

Too Low:
Richmond
Montana
YSU
McNeese

I tend to think UNH is ranked too high as well.

[BEAR]

I will never...ever....ever...say that the field in Conway looks good. Ever..

Saw the pics of your new field. NICE! I remember the color green.... xlolx

[citdog]

I had Fordham #18 and Lehigh #21.


neither of them should have been listed. COLGATE should be the only team from that TERRIBLE league.

[DJKyR0]

With the subtraction of GSU, ASU, and ODU, everyone after the 1-2 spots is too high.

[Vitojr130]

1. North Dakota State
2. Montana State
3. Sam Houston State
4. South Dakota State
5. Eastern Washington
6. Illinois State
7. Wofford
8. Cal Poly
9. Stony Brook
10. Richmond
11. Citadel
12. Central Arkansas
13. Villanova
14. Montana
15. Northern Arizona
16. Towson
17. Northern Iowa
18. Eastern Illinois
19. Chattanooga
20. Samford
21. Delaware
22. Eastern Kentucky
23. James Madison
24. Colgate
25. Southern Illinois

Tear me apart guys. This was my first poll and inb4 the "blah blah blah SHSU beat MSU 2 times now!" I based this off of how I think the season will end, not how things have panned out previously.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

neither of them should have been listed. COLGATE should be the only team from that TERRIBLE league.

Why rank any at all? You're in Missoula these days? Poor folks...

[Sammy94]

Which rube is giving SHSU a number-one vote? Was 39-13 not convincing enough?

Wasn't me.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I missed also. Does this ballot count as one of 2 missed and you are out, or are the rules different than a couple of years ago when I last participated? Sorry if I overlooked instructions.

The preseason ballot does not count as a missed vote. You're all good.

[Pard4Life]

Only PL team in my top 25 is Fordham... only because I didn't know who else to rank.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

My Poll

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Cal Poly Mustangs
3: Villanova Wildcats
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Richmond Spiders
6: Montana State Bobcats
7: Central Arkansas Bears
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Towson Tigers
10: Northern Iowa Panthers
11: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
12: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
13: Montana Grizzlies
14: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
15: Liberty Flames
16: Southern Illinois Salukis
17: Eastern Washington Eagles
18: Fordham Rams
19: James Madison Dukes
20: Pennsylvania Quakers
21: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
22: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
23: McNeese State Cowboys
24: New Hampshire Wildcats
25: Wagner Seahawks

[CID1990]

My Poll

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Cal Poly Mustangs
3: Villanova Wildcats
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Richmond Spiders
6: Montana State Bobcats
7: Central Arkansas Bears
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Towson Tigers
10: Northern Iowa Panthers
11: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
12: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
13: Montana Grizzlies
14: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
15: Liberty Flames
16: Southern Illinois Salukis
17: Eastern Washington Eagles
18: Fordham Rams
19: James Madison Dukes
20: Pennsylvania Quakers
21: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
22: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
23: McNeese State Cowboys
24: New Hampshire Wildcats
25: Wagner Seahawks

Big South has more teams than the SoCon, and Penn/Lehigh/Fordham are all in the poll.

I like it.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Big South has more teams than the SoCon, and Penn/Lehigh/Fordham are all in the poll.

I like it.

I rank teams, not conferences....sorry to disappoint.....The actual AGS poll is not THAT much different than mine, why don't you take the whole community to task?

[Twentysix]

I believe in SDSU this year and slotted them #2, and YSU to be a team that sits around the #10 spot. I don't think SHSU will be able to repeat a Championship appearance and that UCA will overtake them as the best team in the SLC.

Anyway, I'm not posting my full ballot but I will post my highest ranked teams in each conference, and the #2 if they came only one spot lower than the #1 in my top 25.

MVFC NDSU SDSU - 7
BIGSKY MSU EWU - 5
CAA VILLANOVA - 6
SOCON WOFFORD - 2
SLC C ARK - 2
NEC WAGNER - 1
PL LEHIGH - 1
OVC E ILL - 1

The first 5 teams are also my top 5 lol.

NDSU
SDSU
MSU
EWU
VILL

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

I believe in SDSU this year and slotted them #2, and YSU to be a team that sits around the #10 spot. I don't think SHSU will be able to repeat a Championship appearance and that UCA will overtake them as the best team in the SLC.

Anyway, I'm not posting my full ballot but I will post my highest ranked teams in each conference, and the #2 if they came only one spot lower than the #1 in my top 25.

MVFC NDSU SDSU - 7
BIGSKY MSU EWU - 5
CAA VILLANOVA - 5
SOCON WOFFORD - 2
SLC C ARK - 2
NEC ALBANY - 2
PL LEHIGH - 1
OVC E ILL - 1

Albany is in the CAA this year.

[Twentysix]

Good to know, lol. Atleast I got stony brook right the first time around.

[ngineer]

Not bad for a preseason effort when we don't know diddly other than what's on paper. PL will have tremendous parity this year..only Bucknell and Georgetown are without a shot, imo. Would not be shocked to see any of the other five win the league.

[813Jag]

Any Given Saturday preseason top 25 ballot:
1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Eastern Washington Eagles
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: Wofford Terriers
6: Illinois State Redbirds
7: Central Arkansas Bears
8: Cal Poly Mustangs
9: New Hampshire Wildcats
10: Stony Brook Seawolves
11: Towson Tigers
12: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
15: Richmond Spiders
16: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
17: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
18: Wagner Seahawks
19: James Madison Dukes
20: Albany Great Danes
21: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
22: Colgate Raiders
23: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
24: Eastern Illinois Panthers
25: The Citadel Bulldogs

[TheRevSFA]

Saw the pics of your new field. NICE! I remember the color green.... xlolx

It looks great..much better than that rug we played on last year!

[TheRevSFA]

Here's mine.

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Sam Houston State Bearkats
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: Wofford Terriers
5: Montana State Bobcats
6: Central Arkansas Bears
7: Cal Poly Mustangs
8: Illinois State Redbirds
9: Stony Brook Seawolves
10: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
11: New Hampshire Wildcats
12: Villanova Wildcats
13: Towson Tigers
14: Wagner Seahawks
15: Richmond Spiders
16: Colgate Raiders
17: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
18: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
19: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
20: James Madison Dukes
21: Albany Great Danes
22: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
23: Eastern Illinois Panthers
24: Indiana State Sycamores
25: The Citadel Bulldogs

[F'N Hawks]

MVFC NDSU SDSU - 7
BIGSKY MSU EWU - 5
CAA VILLANOVA - 6
SOCON WOFFORD - 2
SLC C ARK - 2
NEC WAGNER - 1
PL LEHIGH - 1
OVC E ILL - 1

The first 5 teams are also my top 5 lol.

NDSU
SDSU
MSU
EWU
VILL

You have seven MVFC teams in the Top 25?

[Twentysix]

You have seven MVFC teams in the Top 25?

Yes.

NDSU SDSU UNI YSU ILL INS SIU

I really won't be surprised to see 4 MVFC teams in the top 10 at the same time this season.

A UNI lead by Kollmorgen won't stay out of these people's top 25's very long lol.

All 7 of the teams I picked appear on the OP ;).

[SU DOG]

My list:

1. NDSU
2. SHSU
3. Mont St
4. SDSU
5. Ill State
6. UCA
7. EWU
8. Cal Poly
9. Nova
10. Stony Brook
11. N Iowa
12. UTC
13. Montana
14. SAMFORD
15. The Citadel
16. UNH
17. Richmond
18. Wofford
19. Coastal
20. YSU
21. JSU
22. EIU
23. Liberty
24. Lehigh
25. Bethune Cookman

With Ayers, who knows what Wofford might do, as he is a SUPER coach. Graduation, however, sure hit the Terriers hard. Most will think I have Samford way too high, but as a homer I say - well it could happen. It sure was tough to type UTC above us I might add. JSU might be the surprise of the OVC, they are a WAY underrated team.

[MR. CHICKEN]

17953.....STONY BROOK @ #13....HMMMM?.......PICKED TA FINISH........# 7.... IN CAA..........xconfusedx.......BRAWK!

AH COUNTED.......LIKE 223 REGISTERED POLL PICKERAHS....GIVE/R/TAKE....NOT EVEN CONSIDERIN'....NEW SIGNEES......AN' OWN-LAH 59...MANAGED TA...DO SOME HOMEWORK........xconfusedx....AWK!

KNOWIN' LOTTAH LADS...DISDAIN FO'...PRESEASON & EARLY WEEK POLLS.......BUT GOTTAH TELL YA'S........HAD FUN STEWIN' ..AN' SWEATIN'....SOUL SEARCHIN'...ETAL..........IT'S GETTIN' CLOSE TA TEE TIME LADS.....DIS WAS AN EXERCISE....TA SHAKE DUH RUST OFF.....AN' GETCHA'S INVOLVED.......AS SUMMER AGS BOARD BOREDOM.......SHIFTS TA FALL....TINGLIN'.......BARAK/BROCK/BRAWK!

[BEAR]

1 North Dakota State Bison 1474 (58)
2 Sam Houston State Bearkats 1340 (1)
3 Montana State Bobcats 1267
4 Eastern Washington Eagles 1227
5 Central Arkansas Bears 1049


Nice. Two SLC teams in the top 5.

[Cleets]

17953.....STONY BROOK @ #13....HMMMM?.......PICKED TA FINISH........# 7.... IN CAA..........xconfusedx.......BRAWK!

AH COUNTED.......LIKE 223 REGISTERED POLL PICKERAHS....GIVE/R/TAKE....NOT EVEN CONSIDERIN'....NEW SIGNEES......AN' OWN-LAH 59...MANAGED TA...DO SOME HOMEWORK........xconfusedx....AWK!

KNOWIN' LOTTAH LADS...DISDAIN FO'...PRESEASON & EARLY WEEK POLLS.......BUT GOTTAH TELL YA'S........HAD FUN STEWIN' ..AN' SWEATIN'....SOUL SEARCHIN'...ETAL..........IT'S GETTIN' CLOSE TA TEE TIME LADS.....DIS WAS AN EXERCISE....TA SHAKE DUH RUST OFF.....AN' GETCHA'S INVOLVED.......AS SUMMER AGS BOARD BOREDOM.......SHIFTS TA FALL....TINGLIN'.......BARAK/BROCK/BRAWK!


But:
Aren't all CAA team going to finish in the top 10..?

[ursus arctos horribilis]

17953.....STONY BROOK @ #13....HMMMM?.......PICKED TA FINISH........# 7.... IN CAA..........xconfusedx.......BRAWK!

AH COUNTED.......LIKE 223 REGISTERED POLL PICKERAHS....GIVE/R/TAKE....NOT EVEN CONSIDERIN'....NEW SIGNEES......AN' OWN-LAH 59...MANAGED TA...DO SOME HOMEWORK........xconfusedx....AWK!

KNOWIN' LOTTAH LADS...DISDAIN FO'...PRESEASON & EARLY WEEK POLLS.......BUT GOTTAH TELL YA'S........HAD FUN STEWIN' ..AN' SWEATIN'....SOUL SEARCHIN'...ETAL..........IT'S GETTIN' CLOSE TA TEE TIME LADS.....DIS WAS AN EXERCISE....TA SHAKE DUH RUST OFF.....AN' GETCHA'S INVOLVED.......AS SUMMER AGS BOARD BOREDOM.......SHIFTS TA FALL....TINGLIN'.......BARAK/BROCK/BRAWK!

Well said.

I guess I mean good points. xlolx

[Saint3333]

7 of the top 10 are Western teams. Get used to it.

[Bisonator]

Which rube is giving SHSU a number-one vote? Was 39-13 not convincing enough?

Probably Nickels! He's hoping to by that "Preseason #1" shirt! xlmaox

[MR. CHICKEN]

WEST....DUH NEW EAST......:o...AWK!

[Twentysix]

7 of the top 10 are Western teams. Get used to it.

I claim C ark for the west, You can have 2 of the 10 teams Villanova and Wofford.

Teams in the mvfc or SLC are west counters imo, except YSU (which kinda counts as a west team) ;)

[MR. CHICKEN]

17954...........AH'LL RIDE 'NOVA....TA FRISKO.................xnodx.........BRAWK!

[TheRevSFA]

17953.....STONY BROOK @ #13....HMMMM?.......PICKED TA FINISH........# 7.... IN CAA..........xconfusedx.......BRAWK!

AH COUNTED.......LIKE 223 REGISTERED POLL PICKERAHS....GIVE/R/TAKE....NOT EVEN CONSIDERIN'....NEW SIGNEES......AN' OWN-LAH 59...MANAGED TA...DO SOME HOMEWORK........xconfusedx....AWK!

KNOWIN' LOTTAH LADS...DISDAIN FO'...PRESEASON & EARLY WEEK POLLS.......BUT GOTTAH TELL YA'S........HAD FUN STEWIN' ..AN' SWEATIN'....SOUL SEARCHIN'...ETAL..........IT'S GETTIN' CLOSE TA TEE TIME LADS.....DIS WAS AN EXERCISE....TA SHAKE DUH RUST OFF.....AN' GETCHA'S INVOLVED.......AS SUMMER AGS BOARD BOREDOM.......SHIFTS TA FALL....TINGLIN'.......BARAK/BROCK/BRAWK!

Let me try to do this in Chicken-Speak.

AH BEE-LIEV DA SEAPUPPIES GOIN' TA FINISH TOP 5 CAA

[URMite]

17953.....STONY BROOK @ #13....HMMMM?.......PICKED TA FINISH........# 7.... IN CAA..........xconfusedx.......BRAWK!

AH COUNTED.......LIKE 223 REGISTERED POLL PICKERAHS....GIVE/R/TAKE....NOT EVEN CONSIDERIN'....NEW SIGNEES......AN' OWN-LAH 59...MANAGED TA...DO SOME HOMEWORK........xconfusedx....AWK!

KNOWIN' LOTTAH LADS...DISDAIN FO'...PRESEASON & EARLY WEEK POLLS.......BUT GOTTAH TELL YA'S........HAD FUN STEWIN' ..AN' SWEATIN'....SOUL SEARCHIN'...ETAL..........IT'S GETTIN' CLOSE TA TEE TIME LADS.....DIS WAS AN EXERCISE....TA SHAKE DUH RUST OFF.....AN' GETCHA'S INVOLVED.......AS SUMMER AGS BOARD BOREDOM.......SHIFTS TA FALL....TINGLIN'.......BARAK/BROCK/BRAWK!

National Rank and CAA rank don't always match with the unbalanced schedule.

For instance, Richmond & Nova don't play head to head, we play Towson at home (Nova plays them away), we play UD &SBU away (Nova has them at home), and they get UNH away while we are playing Albany at home.

Comparing with Towson, They get Nova & UNH at home while we are play Maine at home & URI away. Plus we get the head to head at home.

[ElCid]

Oh I am seriously pissed. I spent three weeks perfecting my poll. I got wrapped up with travel, got distracted with family issues and missed the first one. So much for poll perfection. I matched 23 of the actual top 25 though. Will not miss again.

[clenz]

damn...did people do any research into uni this year or not?

quando omni flunkus moritati

[Cleets]

damn...did people do any research into uni this year or not?

quando omni flunkus moritati

Agreed, how did they crack the top 20..?

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Oh I am seriously pissed. I spent three weeks perfecting my poll. I got wrapped up with travel, got distracted with family issues and missed the first one. So much for poll perfection. I matched 23 of the actual top 25 though. Will not miss again.
Only regular season count in Poll Perfection. You are not penalized for missing the Preseason vote. You are fine. Consider it an OOC game and you are still in line for the conference title. Don't drop one at that point though.

[MR. CHICKEN]

17956.....NAH...YA'LL AIN'T GETTIN' IT...MAH COMPLAINT....STONY BROOK IS PICKED TA FINISH 7TH.....IN DUH CAA.....DAT'S 4 FROM DUH BOTTOM....REGARDLESS O' SKED....AN' WHO MISSES..WHO.....OR PLAYS WHO..SO HOW CAN YA......PROJECT 'EM......TA FINISH 13TH....IN UH NATIONAL POLL.....'COURSE IT'S POSSIBLE.....BUT NOBODAH IN DUH CAA......OTHERAH DAN...MAYBEAH...SEA HAG NATION.....BELIEVES IT.........xtwocentsx......AWQ!

[BisonBacker]

damn...did people do any research into uni this year or not?

quando omni flunkus moritati


I put you guys in my top 25 at #16.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

17956.....NAH...YA'LL AIN'T GETTIN' IT...MAH COMPLAINT....STONY BROOK IS PICKED TA FINISH 7TH.....IN DUH CAA.....DAT'S 4 FROM DUH BOTTOM....REGARDLESS O' SKED....AN' WHO MISSES..WHO.....OR PLAYS WHO..SO HOW CAN YA......PROJECT 'EM......TA FINISH 13TH....IN UH NATIONAL POLL.....'COURSE IT'S POSSIBLE.....BUT NOBODAH IN DUH CAA......OTHERAH DAN...MAYBEAH...SEA HAG NATION.....BELIEVES IT.........xtwocentsx......AWQ!

I thought they were fairly over reanked as well. They are a tie for the 6th CAA team in my poll and were well below that 13 spot on my ballot. Anything is possible but I think they'll fight it out pretty hard and be around 5th or 6th in the CAA but if they get a couple breaks it's all they need to be at/near the top as well.

[TheRevSFA]

Maybe the caa is underestimating SBU...

[Twentysix]

I thought they were fairly over reanked as well. They are a tie for the 6th CAA team in my poll and were well below that 13 spot on my ballot. Anything is possible but I think they'll fight it out pretty hard and be around 5th or 6th in the CAA but if they get a couple breaks it's all they need to be at/near the top as well.

SBU finishing at 4th in the CAA in my poll. Anything could happen though, they could win a NC or go winless this year lol. People need to remember its still the preseason.

[frozennorth]

Looks like the undeserved MSU hype train is already running this year. #3 are you kidding me?

i have no ballot to post, because I didn't know this was happening :(

my top 10 would have been
NDSU
GSU
EWU
NOVA
ODU
SDSU
POLY
SHSU
APP
TOWSON

ignore the three non-pollable teams, and UCA, UNH, and possibly MSU (SBU? RICHMOND? WOFFORD?) would enter the top 10.

Also: what am I missing about wofford that everyone else is seeing?

[BigHouseClosedEnd]

I thought they were fairly over reanked as well. They are a tie for the 6th CAA team in my poll and were well below that 13 spot on my ballot. Anything is possible but I think they'll fight it out pretty hard and be around 5th or 6th in the CAA but if they get a couple breaks it's all they need to be at/near the top as well.

I agree.

Going into the season, I would put the CAA teams in the following tiers:

Top Tier: Towson

2nd Tier (just a shade below TU): Villanova, Richmond, UNH.

3rd Tier: JMU, UD, Stony Brook. WM is close to this group too.

4th Tier: Maine, Albany




10th tier: Rhody

As usual, the standings will end up far different than predicted in August. I see UD and WM as the teams most likely to exceed expectations. Towson is a team that I could see falling short of expectations.

[MTfan4life]

Also: what am I missing about wofford that everyone else is seeing?

I agree with you on the Wofford aspect. What I'm curious about is what is everyone obsessing so much about EWU? Yes, Adams is back, but he lost his top 3 wide receivers. It won't be so easy throwing the ball without Kaufman, Herd, and Edwards running routes. Also they lost about half of their defensive starters. They'll be good, but they'll need a lot of new people to step up to be a top 3 program.

[frozennorth]

I thought they were fairly over reanked as well. They are a tie for the 6th CAA team in my poll and were well below that 13 spot on my ballot. Anything is possible but I think they'll fight it out pretty hard and be around 5th or 6th in the CAA but if they get a couple breaks it's all they need to be at/near the top as well.
I think SBU is better than 7th in the CAA, and I also think that the AGS poll failed to take into account the unexpected loss of whats-his-name.

[frozennorth]

I agree with you on the Wofford aspect. What I'm curious about is what is everyone obsessing so much about EWU? Yes, Adams is back, but he lost his top 3 wide receivers. It won't be so easy throwing the ball without Kaufman, Herd, and Edwards running routes. Also they lost about half of their defensive starters. They'll be good, but they'll need a lot of new people to step up to be a top 3 program.

The pieces they brought back are very good. You can make basically the same argument against SDSU, or for that matter MSU.

[CID1990]

I rank teams, not conferences....sorry to disappoint.....The actual AGS poll is not THAT much different than mine, why don't you take the whole community to task?

There's no UTC? I know Chattown's annoying as hell, but conventional wisdom has them winning the SoCon.

Are you saying that Fordham, CCU, and Penn should be more highly ranked?


Sent from the center of the universe.

[dudeitsaid]

I agree with you on the Wofford aspect. What I'm curious about is what is everyone obsessing so much about EWU? Yes, Adams is back, but he lost his top 3 wide receivers. It won't be so easy throwing the ball without Kaufman, Herd, and Edwards running routes. Also they lost about half of their defensive starters. They'll be good, but they'll need a lot of new people to step up to be a top 3 program.


This is a great point. I have a lot of trepidation about the season for this reason. Additionally, I think the combination of Padron & Adams was actually a good thing last year, as their dramatically different playing styles added more complexity to gameplanning for them. That being said, I hope that EWU is at the top this year, but could see them as low as six wins. Montana will rebound, and MSU and Cal Poly will be strong again. My gut tells me EWU will fall in behind those three, and still squeak into the playoffs this year.

[ElCid]

Well here is the poll that I was going to submit, if I had not gotten distracted. I would like to make a suggestion that the preseason poll is open for a little bit longer than the regular season to give folks a chance considering all the summer activities. Yeah I am still pissed at myself I missed it.

A pre-season poll to me is just an estimation of potential. For me it it is a combo of many variables and a little gut feeling thrown in. Last year's performance, returning starters, coaching situation, schedule, anticipated performance, etc. I am not following conventional wisdom in regard to SHSU. I think C Ark will win their conf. I like SDSU as well but had to give the nod to NDSU for #1 to begin with for obvious reasons. I think N Iowa and S Ill will make noise as well and they are pretty high considering last years record. The MVFC is loaded for sure. I also have Montana back in the mix after last year debacle. I want to see how Cal Poly does before they get higher but I think they might be top 5 before all is over. Wofford is way too high on everyone's ballot and I still think they might be too high on mine, but they survive until they prove otherwise. I know the Lehigh folks will be upset not to see them but, oh well, take care of business and it will be rewarded. It was a tossup on whether to include Samford or The Citadel and in the end I included both. I think Chatty is a bit better than both and it will be a crap shoot in the SOCON this year. Also, I have no hesitation in not including teams from conferences that I think are subpar. If those teams do well in their OOC, I will give them votes. I will not give token votes just to be inclusive.


1. North Dakota State
2. Eastern Washington
3. South Dakota State
4. Central Arkansas
5. Montana State
6. Towson
7. Sam Houston State
8. Cal Poly
9. Villanova
10. Richmond
11. N. Iowa
12. Wofford
13. Montana
14. James Madison
15. S Illinois
16. New Hampshire
17. Stony Brook
18. Eastern Illinois
19. Chattanooga
20. Illinois State
21. Colgate
22. Youngstown St
23. Northern Arizona
24. The Citadel
25. Samford

[Professor Chaos]

Looks like the undeserved MSU hype train is already running this year. #3 are you kidding me?

I'll play devil's advocate for Montana St. They did make the quarterfinals last year and they return a good portion of their significant contributors. By that I mean they return more of last year's core than most teams around the country. I have a hard time understanding how they're out of the top 5 but I find it pretty ironic you're advocating MSU as being overrated and playoff chokers but then have Villanova in your top 5 who lost to the same Stony Brook team in the opening round that Montana St beat in the second round.

I think the sentiment from Bisonville this whole year will be Montana St will be overrated because we're still pissed at their chicken **** AD.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

I'll play devil's advocate for the Montana St bashing. They did make the quarterfinals last year and they return a good portion of their significant contributors. By that I mean they return more of last year's core than most teams around the country. I have a hard time understanding how they're out of the top 5 but I find it pretty ironic that some who are advocating MSU as being overrated and playoff chokers are pimping Villanova in their top 5 who lost to the Stony Brook team in the opening round that Montana St beat in the second round.

MSU needs to rebuild their defensive line. That's easily their biggest concern imo. They also lack explosive skill players. McGhee can pretty much do everything but he still needs help. The Bobcats will once again be good but I don't see them as a legit championship threat. At least right now...

As for Villanova, two words, Andy Talley. They exceeded expectations last year and return a ton of talent. As much as it hurts me to say it, they'll be very good. I can't stand the Vile....

[catbob]

We deserve some trepidation, I can't argue with that. It depends on how you make your poll. Do you put it as how you think the season will end, or who are the best 25 teams in week one?

I tend to be the latter, and there is no way you can say MSU isn't a top 10 team in that viewpoint. Hell, if you take the other style. MSU

W MONMOUTH (GOLD RUSH)
L at SMU
W COLORADO MESA (HALL OF FAME)
W at Stephen F. Austin
W at North Dakota
W NORTHERN ARIZONA (HOMECOMING)
W at Weber State
W UC DAVIS (AGR. APPRECIATION/ PARENT & FAMILY WEEKEND)
W at Northern Colorado
L at Eastern Washington
W SOUTHERN UTAH (MILITARY APPRECIATION)
W/L MONTANA (SENIOR RECOGNITION)

It's not an easy schedule, but it's not brutal. SFA, UND, EWU and UM I think are our biggest challenges and I could see us losing all 4 of those. We could also beat EWU.

If our O-Line play is improved from last year there is no reason we can't finish 11-1. The worst I think I can see us finishing is 7-4, but I'm guessing 10-2 is where we will end up. Hell even a 9-3 MSU team with that schedule is going to finish the season in the top 5.

But sadly I agree with Lehigh Owl. I think we are once again built to run through the Big Sky, but we don't have any gamebreakers outside of McGhee. I'd like to see Sean Johnson emerge as a guy who gets 5-10 carries a game. He is a gamebreaker but it remains to be seen how he can handle the load, but he has been waiting his turn. He is probably the fastest guy on the team, and can break some ankles. A bit undersized but he could be the x-factor for us.

Defense has some questions to answer at DL and LB now that Na'a is gone for the season.

[CrazyCat]

Names nobody knows about.

Gamebreakers. Davis, Dash, Roderick, Griebel.

Dline. Sheridan,Dees,Thomas,Coe,Hayes, and Vick.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Well here is the poll that I was going to submit, if I had not gotten distracted. I would like to make a suggestion that the preseason poll is open for a little bit longer than the regular season to give folks a chance considering all the summer activities. Yeah I am still pissed at myself I missed it.

A pre-season poll to me is just an estimation of potential. For me it it is a combo of many variables and a little gut feeling thrown in. Last year's performance, returning starters, coaching situation, schedule, anticipated performance, etc. I am not following conventional wisdom in regard to SHSU. I think C Ark will win their conf. I like SDSU as well but had to give the nod to NDSU for #1 to begin with for obvious reasons. I think N Iowa and S Ill will make noise as well and they are pretty high considering last years record. The MVFC is loaded for sure. I also have Montana back in the mix after last year debacle. I want to see how Cal Poly does before they get higher but I think they might be top 5 before all is over. Wofford is way too high on everyone's ballot and I still think they might be too high on mine, but they survive until they prove otherwise. I know the Lehigh folks will be upset not to see them but, oh well, take care of business and it will be rewarded. It was a tossup on whether to include Samford or The Citadel and in the end I included both. I think Chatty is a bit better than both and it will be a crap shoot in the SOCON this year. Also, I have no hesitation in not including teams from conferences that I think are subpar. If those teams do well in their OOC, I will give them votes. I will not give token votes just to be inclusive.


1. North Dakota State
2. Eastern Washington
3. South Dakota State
4. Central Arkansas
5. Montana State
6. Towson
7. Sam Houston State
8. Cal Poly
9. Villanova
10. Richmond
11. N. Iowa
12. Wofford
13. Montana
14. James Madison
15. S Illinois
16. New Hampshire
17. Stony Brook
18. Eastern Illinois
19. Chattanooga
20. Illinois State
21. Colgate
22. Youngstown St
23. Northern Arizona
24. The Citadel
25. Samford

The suggestion of keeping the poll open longer is a fair one and in fact it was open for about 5 or 6 days last year I think but I wanted to try and start making the structure a little more like the actual poll runs during the season. I figured some would miss it but I am hoping that it serves as an alret that during the season things move pretty quickly with the poll opening late Saturday night and closing by noon Eastern on Mondays. Best practice for me is to put it together Sunday morning when I'm checking the site to see what has went on around the country. I realize that luxury wasn't afforded us this last Sunday so that is a big detraction and maybe it should be open longer for preseason.

What would anyone that cares think about maybe a Thursday @ nnon and open until Monday @ noon? I'd like to make it so it works best for all but some are gonna want it open for a week or two. xlolx

[knucklehead]

Stupid question from a newbie. Where do I find the ballot? I guess I was expecting an e-mail since I signed up with e-mail. Never saw it.

[theasushow]

So weird seeing a Top 25 poll with no ASU or GSU, guess I better get used to it...probably for quite some time.

[BEAR]

So weird seeing a Top 25 poll with no ASU or GSU, guess I better get used to it...probably for quite some time.

It only took Arkansas State...um...like 20 years...for one week in the top 25... xlolx

[Silenoz]

Any Given Saturday preseason top 25 ballot:
1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Eastern Washington Eagles
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: Wofford Terriers
6: Illinois State Redbirds
7: Central Arkansas Bears
8: Cal Poly Mustangs
9: New Hampshire Wildcats
10: Stony Brook Seawolves
11: Towson Tigers
12: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
15: Richmond Spiders
16: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
17: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
18: Wagner Seahawks
19: James Madison Dukes
20: Albany Great Danes
21: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
22: Colgate Raiders
23: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
24: Eastern Illinois Panthers
25: The Citadel Bulldogs
Some (converted) Griz fan you are xtroublex

[Silenoz]

Names nobody knows about.

Gamebreakers. Davis, Dash, Roderick, Griebel.

Dline. Sheridan,Dees,Thomas,Coe,Hayes, and Vick.
Chatty vs MSU = world explodes

[chattownmocs]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Chattanooga Mocs
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Central Arkansas Bears
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: Stony Brook Seawolves
8: Towson Tigers
9: Montana Grizzlies
10: Northern Iowa Panthers
11: New Hampshire Wildcats
12: Villanova Wildcats
13: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
14: Youngstown State Penguins
15: Richmond Spiders
16: Samford Bulldogs
17: Cal Poly Mustangs
18: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
19: Illinois State Redbirds
20: Eastern Illinois Panthers
21: Indiana State Sycamores
22: Wofford Terriers
23: Tennessee State Tigers
24: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
25: Tennessee Tech Golden Eagles

[BisonFan02]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Chattanooga Mocs
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Central Arkansas Bears
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: Stony Brook Seawolves
8: Towson Tigers
9: Montana Grizzlies
10: Northern Iowa Panthers
11: New Hampshire Wildcats
12: Villanova Wildcats
13: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
14: Youngstown State Penguins
15: Richmond Spiders
16: Samford Bulldogs
17: Cal Poly Mustangs
18: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
19: Illinois State Redbirds
20: Eastern Illinois Panthers
21: Indiana State Sycamores
22: Wofford Terriers
23: Tennessee State Tigers
24: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
25: Tennessee Tech Golden Eagles

Geez Chatty...you might as well go "full retard" and put Chatty ahead of NDSU too.

[chattownmocs]

Geez Chatty...you might as well go "full retard" and put Chatty ahead of NDSU too.

If I like what I see early I probably will. I'll toss NDSU up there preseason just for respect on what they have done, not because I think they will win it again. I think man for man Chattanooga is slightly stronger.

[BisonFan02]

If I like what I see early I probably will. I'll toss NDSU up there preseason just for respect on what they have done, not because I think they will win it again. I think man for man Chattanooga is slightly stronger.

xlolx that's nice

[NoDak 4 Ever]

If I like what I see early I probably will. I'll toss NDSU up there preseason just for respect on what they have done, not because I think they will win it again. I think man for man Chattanooga is slightly stronger.

NDSU would murder chatty so badly you would need dental records to identify the body.

[bjtheflamesfan]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Chattanooga Mocs Too high
3: Montana State Bobcats Too high (but not by much)
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Central Arkansas Bears
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats Too low
7: Stony Brook Seawolves Too high
8: Towson Tigers Too high (but not by much)
9: Montana Grizzlies
10: Northern Iowa Panthers
11: New Hampshire Wildcats
12: Villanova Wildcats Too low
13: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
14: Youngstown State Penguins
15: Richmond Spiders Too low
16: Samford Bulldogs
17: Cal Poly Mustangs
18: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
19: Illinois State Redbirds
20: Eastern Illinois Panthers
21: Indiana State Sycamores
22: Wofford Terriers
23: Tennessee State Tigers
24: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
25: Tennessee Tech Golden Eagles

The only real glaring issue is the homer at #2 (hard to call a team that hasnt won more than 6 games in 16 years the second best team in the country). I do disagree with a few others as noted but otherwise not bad

[CopperCat]

The pieces they brought back are very good. You can make basically the same argument against SDSU, or for that matter MSU.

MSU is brining back more of its offense than EWU is.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Stupid question from a newbie. Where do I find the ballot? I guess I was expecting an e-mail since I signed up with e-mail. Never saw it.

Emails are sent out for the preseason vote only and since you were a recent signup the new guys were not yet on the email list but the dates were posted in a few different places including the registration thread I believe.

It's very easy to tell when the polling is opne because there is a big banner at the top of every page saying "AGS Poll Vote" and by clicking it you go to the ballot.

Sorry you missed it knuckler but keep an eye out for the big sign or just plan on Sundays being the day to do it. It is open until Monday morning at noon Eastern though.

[TheRevSFA]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Chattanooga Mocs
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Central Arkansas Bears
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: Stony Brook Seawolves
8: Towson Tigers
9: Montana Grizzlies
10: Northern Iowa Panthers
11: New Hampshire Wildcats
12: Villanova Wildcats
13: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
14: Youngstown State Penguins
15: Richmond Spiders
16: Samford Bulldogs
17: Cal Poly Mustangs
18: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
19: Illinois State Redbirds
20: Eastern Illinois Panthers
21: Indiana State Sycamores
22: Wofford Terriers
23: Tennessee State Tigers
24: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
25: Tennessee Tech Golden Eagles

Someone needs to take away your right to vote

[dbackjon]

Someone needs to take away your right to vote

it's pre-season We all can dream :)

[citdog]

Someone needs to take away your right to vote


perhaps a poll tax or a literacy test is in order?

[knucklehead]

Emails are sent out for the preseason vote only and since you were a recent signup the new guys were not yet on the email list but the dates were posted in a few different places including the registration thread I believe.

It's very easy to tell when the polling is opne because there is a big banner at the top of every page saying "AGS Poll Vote" and by clicking it you go to the ballot.

Sorry you missed it knuckler but keep an eye out for the big sign or just plan on Sundays being the day to do it. It is open until Monday morning at noon Eastern though.

Thanks, That may be why I missed it. I was out of town on vacation until yesterday.

[TheRevSFA]

perhaps a poll tax or a literacy test is in order?

Just turn the clock back to 1918 before we let women like Chattown vote

[CID1990]

Someone needs to take away your right to vote

Actually, that poll is more reflective of the SoCon this season than any other poll I have see so far. Chatty is about 5 spots too high, but other than that it's a credible list.

[URMite]

Actually, that poll is more reflective of the SoCon this season than any other poll I have see so far. Chatty is about 5 spots too high, but other than that it's a credible list.

So you think...
2: Chattanooga Mocs +5 = 7
22: Wofford Terriers

And The Citadel & Samford shouldn't be there? xeyebrowx

[TheRevSFA]

Actually, that poll is more reflective of the SoCon this season than any other poll I have see so far. Chatty is about 5 spots too high, but other than that it's a credible list.

Chatty is about 20 spots too high if anything

[ElCid]

So you think...
2: Chattanooga Mocs +5 = 7
22: Wofford Terriers

And The Citadel & Samford shouldn't be there? xeyebrowx


Wofford has been way too high in everyone's poll. They are 16-25 at best. Chatty, until I see some results, is anywhere between 10-20. ElCid and Samford are bubble, 23-27 until I see some results.

[grayghost06]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Chattanooga Mocs
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Central Arkansas Bears
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: Stony Brook Seawolves
8: Towson Tigers
9: Montana Grizzlies
10: Northern Iowa Panthers
11: New Hampshire Wildcats
12: Villanova Wildcats
13: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
14: Youngstown State Penguins
15: Richmond Spiders
16: Samford Bulldogs
17: Cal Poly Mustangs
18: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
19: Illinois State Redbirds
20: Eastern Illinois Panthers
21: Indiana State Sycamores
22: Wofford Terriers
23: Tennessee State Tigers
24: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
25: Tennessee Tech Golden Eagles

I see 4 OVC teams toward the end of your poll. Is this the year they finally win a playoff game? I think they are on a 12 year drought.

[URMite]

Wofford has been way too high in everyone's poll. They are 16-25 at best. Chatty, until I see some results, is anywhere between 10-20. ElCid and Samford are bubble, 23-27 until I see some results.

That's makes a lot more sense. I think I was just surprised by a fan of a team that is a reasonable contender not having a bias for his own team.

[ElCid]

That's makes a lot more sense. I think I was just surprised by a fan of a team that is a reasonable contender not having a bias for his own team.

Dare I say it.

This above all: to thine own self be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man.xsighx

[Cocky]

I see 4 OVC teams toward the end of your poll. Is this the year they finally win a playoff game? I think they are on a 12 year drought.

The league has gotten better as a whole but as the poll indicates no team is pushing toward the top of FCS. If the OVC team doesnt draw a top team they will play a push game so maybe its our year.

[Tribal]

JMU wasn't good last year and they'll take a step back this year. Delaware is too low...just swap them on the poll and it looks pretty good, IMO.

[CopperCat]

Looks like the undeserved MSU hype train is already running this year. #3 are you kidding me?

i have no ballot to post, because I didn't know this was happening :(

my top 10 would have been
NDSU
GSU
EWU
NOVA
ODU
SDSU
POLY
SHSU
APP
TOWSON

ignore the three non-pollable teams, and UCA, UNH, and possibly MSU (SBU? RICHMOND? WOFFORD?) would enter the top 10.

Also: what am I missing about wofford that everyone else is seeing?

Still a little butt hurt eh? Need a hug?

[Walkon79]

I'll play devil's advocate for Montana St. They did make the quarterfinals last year and they return a good portion of their significant contributors. By that I mean they return more of last year's core than most teams around the country. I have a hard time understanding how they're out of the top 5 but I find it pretty ironic you're advocating MSU as being overrated and playoff chokers but then have Villanova in your top 5 who lost to the same Stony Brook team in the opening round that Montana St beat in the second round.

I think the sentiment from Bisonville this whole year will be Montana St will be overrated because we're still pissed at their chicken **** AD.

Can't argue any of your points. I'm concerned about the defensive side of the ball with graduations and recent injuries. The Cats are going to have to score more this year to win games, at least until the pups on defense grow up a bit.

[MSUBobcat]

Can't argue any of your points. I'm concerned about the defensive side of the ball with graduations and recent injuries. The Cats are going to have to score more this year to win games, at least until the pups on defense grow up a bit.

Agreed. With Moeakiola out indefinitely and the recent news of Grosulak leaving, I'm very concerned. Prior to that I was only moderately concerned, as I thought our LBs would be pretty good.

[UNDColorado]

If I like what I see early I probably will. I'll toss NDSU up there preseason just for respect on what they have done, not because I think they will win it again. I think man for man Chattanooga is slightly stronger.

Haha you just stirred up the hornets nest! There is no way you are better man for man than NDSU. Take that to the bank because I despise NDSU but at the same time respect their accomplishments.

[344Johnson]

Haha you just stirred up the hornets nest! There is no way you are better man for man than NDSU. Take that to the bank because I despise NDSU but at the same time respect their accomplishments.

Shocker. Chattown thinks Chattanooga is better than the 2 time champs with nearly the entire team returning.

[JSUBison]

damn...did people do any research into uni this year or not?

quando omni flunkus moritati

I had them at #3, but I probably would have ranked ODU. GSU, and ASu ahead of them if they were eligible. so #6 at worst.


Someone needs to take away your right to vote

3/5 compromise?

[UNDColorado]

Shocker. Chattown thinks Chattanooga is better than the 2 time champs with nearly the entire team returning.

Exactly...not to mention they were 6-5 last year...