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smallcollegefbfan
July 24th, 2013, 12:36 PM
SoCon Football Coaches Select Preseason All-Conference Team

Londry-Jackson, Tull and Tartt Earn Preseason Awards

SPARTANBURG, S.C. – Appalachian State senior quarterback Jamal Londry-Jackson has been named the Southern Conference Preseason Offensive Player of the Year, while Chattanooga’s Davis Tull and Samford’s Jaquiski Tartt shared defensive honors in voting conducted by the league’s head coaches.

The league’s head coaches also selected all-conference first and second teams in conjunction with the league’s media day on Wednesday (July 24). Coaches were not allowed to vote for their own student-athletes as part of the balloting.

Named to the 2013 Walter Payton Award Watch List earlier this summer, Londry-Jackson earned first-team all-conference honors in 2012 from the league’s head coaches and media. He led the Southern Conference and ranked 10th in the nation in total offense (300.5 ypg) as a junior and was 14th nationally in pass efficiency (146.96). Londry-Jackson also rushed for 328 yards and six touchdowns last year.

A junior defensive lineman for the Mocs, Tull was named the league’s Defensive Player of the Year as a sophomore. He led the league with a school-record 12.5 sacks a season ago and was fifth in the nation with 18.5 tackles for loss. He finished the year with 56 tackles and added three forced fumbles.

Tartt was also named to the Buchanan Award Watch List this summer. As a sophomore last season, he recorded 94 tackles, which was tied for seventh in the SoCon. The defensive back led the league with 14 pass break-ups and tied for the league high with four interceptions. Tartt scored two defensive touchdowns last season and finished the year earning All-SoCon and All-American honors.

Chattanooga led all schools with nine preseason all-conference honorees. The Mocs had six student-athletes earn first-team recognition, while three players were named to the second team. Appalachian State and Samford each had eight players earn preseason all-conference honors. The Mountaineers also placed six student-athletes on the first team and six schools had at least three players earn first-team honors.

The 2013 Southern Conference football season begins Thursday, Aug. 29, when Western Carolina visits Middle Tennessee and Chattanooga hosts UT Martin. The other seven league teams hit the field for their season openers August 30 and 31.

2013 Southern Conference Football Preseason All-Conference Teams

Offensive Player of the Year: Jamal Londry-Jackson, Sr., QB, Appalachian State
Co-Defensive Players of the Year: Jaquiski Tartt, Jr., DB, Samford; Davis Tull, Jr., DL, Chattanooga

First Team Offense
QB Jamal Londry-Jackson, Sr., Appalachian State
RB Dominique Swope, Jr., Georgia Southern
RB Fabian Truss, Sr., Samford
OL Kendall Lamm, Jr., Appalachian State
OL Dakota Dozier, Sr., Furman
OL Dorian Byrd, Sr., Georgia Southern
OL Ty Gregory, Sr., Wofford
OL Jared Singleton, Sr., Wofford
TE Faysal Shafaat, Jr., Chattanooga
WR Andrew Peacock, Sr., Appalachian State
WR Sean Price, So., Appalachian State
WR (tie) Kelsey Pope, Sr., Samford

First Team Defense
DL Ronald Blair, Jr., Appalachian State
DL Derek Douglas, Sr., The Citadel
DL Derrick Lott, Sr., Chattanooga
DL Davis Tull, Jr., Chattanooga
LB Jonathan Spain, Jr., Elon
LB Wes Dothard, Sr., Chattanooga
LB Alvin Scioneaux, Sr., Wofford
DB Lavelle Westbrooks, Sr., Georgia Southern
DB Jaquiski Tartt, Jr., Samford
DB D.J. Key, Sr., Chattanooga
DB Kadeem Wise, Sr., Chattanooga

First Team Specialists
PK Ray Earley, Sr., Furman
P Ray Earley, Sr., Furman
RS Tony Washington, Sr., Appalachian State

Second Team Offense
QB Jacob Huesman, So., Chattanooga
RB Darien Robinson, Sr., The Citadel
RB Donovan Johnson, Sr., Wofford
OL Cullen Brown, Sr., The Citadel
OL Clay Johnson, Sr., Elon
OL Garrett Frye, Jr., Georgia Southern
OL Kasey Morrison, Sr., Samford
OL Kevin Revis, Sr., Chattanooga
TE Zeke Walters, Sr., Samford
WR Kierre Brown, Jr., Elon
WR Terrell Robinson, Jr., Chattanooga

Second Team Defense
DL Gary Wilkins, Jr., Furman
DL Javon Mention, Sr., Georgia Southern
DL Jerry Mathis, Jr., Samford
DL Tarek Odom, Jr., Wofford
LB Carson Smith, Jr., The Citadel
LB Justin Shade, Sr., Samford
LB Mike McCrimon, Sr., Wofford
DB Joel Ross, Jr., Appalachian State
DB Brandon McCladdie, Sr., The Citadel
DB Chandler Wrightenberry, Sr., Elon
DB Ace Clark, Jr, Western Carolina
DB (tie) James Zotto, Sr., Wofford

Second Team Specialists
PK Drew Stewart, Sr., Appalachian State
P Clark Sechrest, Sr., Western Carolina
RS Fabian Truss, Sr., Samford

NOTE: Coaches were not permitted to vote for their own players.


SoCon Football Coaches Pick Georgia Southern
SPARTANBURG, S.C. – The Georgia Southern Eagles have been picked first in preseason polling conducted by the Southern Conference’s head football coaches. The Eagles, who earned six of nine first-place votes, earned a share of the 2012 league title with a record of 6-2 and advanced to the FCS semifinals. It is the second consecutive year they have been picked first in preseason balloting.

The Eagles, along with Appalachian State, are ineligible for the FCS playoffs and the Southern Conference championship this fall as they begin their transition to FBS.

The Mountaineers were tabbed second in the preseason poll. Appalachian State earned two first-place votes and finished with 51 points. The Mountaineers will be under the direction of first-year head coach Scott Satterfield.

Chattanooga earned the final first-place vote and was picked third with 47 points. It is the highest the Mocs have picked in the coaches poll since 1990. Chattanooga returns 10 starters on both sides of the ball in 2013, including defensive lineman Davis Tull, who was named the league’s Defensive Player of the Year last season.

Samford was picked fourth with 43 points, tying its highest showing in the poll since joining the league in 2008. Head coach Pat Sullivan enters his seventh season with the Bulldogs, who have seen their win total rise each of the last two years.

Wofford (40 points) was tabbed fifth after earning a share of the league crown last season. The Terriers have advanced to the FCS playoffs each of the last three seasons.

The Citadel was slotted sixth with 33 points. The Bulldogs enter their ninth season under head coach Kevin Higgins. The Citadel went 7-4 a season ago, including a 5-3 mark in league play, its best record in the SoCon since winning the league (6-1) in 1992.

Furman was tabbed seventh with 25 points, while Elon followed in eighth place (16). The Paladins return nine starters on offense, while the Phoenix returns nine defensive starters from a season ago.

Western Carolina (12) rounded out the poll. Head coach Mark Speir returns for his second season with the Catamounts and returns 40 lettermen, including six offensive and seven defensive starters.

2013 SoCon Football Preseason Coaches Poll

School (First-place votes) Points
1. Georgia Southern (6) 57
2. Appalachian State (2) 51
3. Chattanooga (1) 47
4. Samford 43
5. Wofford 40
6. The Citadel 33
7. Furman 25
8. Elon 16
9. Western Carolina 12

NOTE: Coaches were not permitted to vote for their own team

www.soconsports.com

chattownmocs
July 24th, 2013, 12:43 PM
Chattanooga led all schools with nine preseason all-conference honorees. The Mocs had six student-athletes earn first-team recognition

You are damn right.

Mountaineer
July 24th, 2013, 12:43 PM
If Noogie doesn't win the conference (by default) Huesman should be shown the door.

eaglewraith
July 24th, 2013, 12:48 PM
Nothing for Jerrick McKinnon? Wow.

chattownmocs
July 24th, 2013, 12:49 PM
If Noogie doesn't win the conference (by default) Huesman should be shown the door.

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citdog
July 24th, 2013, 12:49 PM
why are the coaches or the other media members even picking teams or players who are only playing an exhibition season? So App's quarterback married a dude named londry in the offseason?

smallcollegefbfan
July 24th, 2013, 12:49 PM
The only major beefs I have is that Huesman should not be ahead of McKinnon at GSU. McKinnon is a better player than Huesman. The only names on the 2nd team OL that I even saw coming was Kevin Revis and Garrett Frye. There are others who had better years, according to some of the coaches I talked to last year on the OL for 2nd team. I don't like ties and I think if they would have broken that you would see Terrell Robinson fall off this list. People need to watch for Zach Walker of GSU and Cephus of Samford. Both are going to get some next level looks. Cephus especially.

catamount man
July 24th, 2013, 12:49 PM
If Noogie doesn't win the conference (by default) Huesman should be shown the door.

Yep. I think it's a joke that GSU and ASU are even brought about in the whole "pick ems" thing by the coaches and media since they are leaving. Elon as well.

So here are the real predictions
1) Wofford
2) The Citadel
3) Samford
4) Chattanooga
5) Furman
6) WCU (2013 IS THE LAST YEAR WE SUCK!xmadx)

GO CATS!

smallcollegefbfan
July 24th, 2013, 12:51 PM
If Noogie doesn't win the conference (by default) Huesman should be shown the door.

Yes it makes no sense that Chattanooga has the most preseason picks but not preseason first place? They are 3rd (coaches) and 4th (media), which is where they belong at this point. I would personally have them 4th and in the 20-25 range in the top 25. With 9 picks they better win the league or else it's an utter disappointment. With that said, I disagree with two of their players on this list and think they should have 7.

chattownmocs
July 24th, 2013, 12:51 PM
The only major beefs I have is that Huesman should not be ahead of McKinnon at GSU. McKinnon is a better player than Huesman. The only names on the 2nd team OL that I even saw coming was Kevin Revis and Garrett Frye. There are others who had better years, according to some of the coaches I talked to last year on the OL for 2nd team. I don't like ties and I think if they would have broken that you would see Terrell Robinson fall off this list. People need to watch for Zach Walker of GSU and Cephus of Samford. Both are going to get some next level looks. Cephus especially.

Hilarious

smallcollegefbfan
July 24th, 2013, 12:53 PM
Yep. I think it's a joke that GSU and ASU are even brought about in the whole "pick ems" thing by the coaches and media since they are leaving. Elon as well.

So here are the real predictions
1) Wofford
2) The Citadel
3) Samford
4) Chattanooga
5) Furman
6) WCU (2013 IS THE LAST YEAR WE SUCK!xmadx)

GO CATS!

Elon is still fully eligible in the SoCon this year so why not include them? They can win the SoCon. They are just moving to the CAA, not leaving FCS. App and GSU are only included because of their schedules, being they are facing an entire league. As you can see it's obvious everyone thinks the 3rd best team in the SoCon will win the auto bid. I don't know GSU's scholarships at this point but I'm told App is at 74. App is going to be younger this year. They only have 3-5 good seniors and a ton of juniors and sophomores. GSU is loaded up front on both lines and has the best backfield in the league.

FCS_pwns_FBS
July 24th, 2013, 12:53 PM
Interesting that Garrett Frye is a preseason AA selection and not first-team all-SoCon.

Also, once again, McKinnon is one of the best players in the country. You have to at least find some place for him.

Mountaineer
July 24th, 2013, 12:55 PM
Yep. I think it's a joke that GSU and ASU are even brought about in the whole "pick ems" thing by the coaches and media since they are leaving.

We still play a full SoCon schedule this year. I understand the whole point of not being eligible for the conference championship, that's fair, but you guys are just going to to have to suck it up for one more season. Sorry. :D

blueballs
July 24th, 2013, 12:55 PM
Interesting that Garrett Frye is a preseason AA selection and not first-team all-SoCon.

Also, once again, McKinnon is one of the best players in the country. You have to at least find some place for him.

Anybody who rushes for over 1800 yards and 20 TD's pretty much has to be all conference, don't cha' think?????

smallcollegefbfan
July 24th, 2013, 12:57 PM
Hilarious

Huesman doesn't have better numbers than McKinnon and McKinnon is a NFL prospect, whether you like it or not. Again, you said Kimbrough wasn't a 4.5 guy, not even close according to you. The fact is he ran a verified 4.56 and 4.59 by NFL scouts.

My problem with you is that you are just a fan who knows nothing more than the average person and ignores facts yet hides when you are wrong (90% of the time). Others on here who don't know, instead of putting their foot in their mouth, keep quiet or ask questions to others. I don't get where the ego is coming from on you? It's obvious you have no inside connections and are just a fan who knows nothing more than the average fan, and a big Chatty homer.

It's okay to be a homer but don't laugh or call others idiots who clearly do know. The thing I find funniest is that you dispute facts. Never seen or heard someone who did that. At least you make AGS entertaining. My wife could leave me, I could get sick, I could go to jail, and yet I would still laugh at what you say because it's hilarious that you really believe most of it. I still hope you are just trying to create talk and entertain and don't really believe yourself lol.

chattownmocs
July 24th, 2013, 01:09 PM
Huesman doesn't have better numbers than McKinnon and McKinnon is a NFL prospect, whether you like it or not. Again, you said Kimbrough wasn't a 4.5 guy, not even close according to you. The fact is he ran a verified 4.56 and 4.59 by NFL scouts.

My problem with you is that you are just a fan who knows nothing more than the average person and ignores facts yet hides when you are wrong (90% of the time). Others on here who don't know, instead of putting their foot in their mouth, keep quiet or ask questions to others. I don't get where the ego is coming from on you? It's obvious you have no inside connections and are just a fan who knows nothing more than the average fan, and a big Chatty homer.

It's okay to be a homer but don't laugh or call others idiots who clearly do know. The thing I find funniest is that you dispute facts. Never seen or heard someone who did that. At least you make AGS entertaining. My wife could leave me, I could get sick, I could go to jail, and yet I would still laugh at what you say because it's hilarious that you really believe most of it. I still hope you are just trying to create talk and entertain and don't really believe yourself lol.

As far as Huesman vs Mckinnon goes, Huesman had more total yards in about 2/3s the starts. As football players Mckinnon MAY be better, as QBs it's Huesman by far.

Buddy, if I went into your field, and I was still scouting Division 2 football. I would be extremely embarrassed. You clearly don't know what you are talking about. If you are so smart why are you still watching game film of low-level college football? That's what I thought. You can't even follow a message board. I was responding to the bolded, which is why I bolded. If you don't think Terrell Robinson isn't one of the top 6 receivers in the conference than you have another reason to quit now.

chattanoogamocs
July 24th, 2013, 01:11 PM
Huesman doesn't have better numbers than McKinnon and McKinnon is a NFL prospect, whether you like it or not. Again, you said Kimbrough wasn't a 4.5 guy, not even close according to you. The fact is he ran a verified 4.56 and 4.59 by NFL scouts.

My problem with you is that you are just a fan who knows nothing more than the average person and ignores facts yet hides when you are wrong (90% of the time). Others on here who don't know, instead of putting their foot in their mouth, keep quiet or ask questions to others. I don't get where the ego is coming from on you? It's obvious you have no inside connections and are just a fan who knows nothing more than the average fan, and a big Chatty homer.

It's okay to be a homer but don't laugh or call others idiots who clearly do know. The thing I find funniest is that you dispute facts. Never seen or heard someone who did that. At least you make AGS entertaining. My wife could leave me, I could get sick, I could go to jail, and yet I would still laugh at what you say because it's hilarious that you really believe most of it. I still hope you are just trying to create talk and entertain and don't really believe yourself lol.

I just laugh at watching you guys spend so much time and energy debating with him...which is exactly what he wants (I am sure he is laughing twice as hard...he can type in literally one word and het paragraphs of responses). I just shake my head reading all this. It takes so much time away from those who want to have a meaningful discussion about SoCon football.

eaglewraith
July 24th, 2013, 01:14 PM
As far as Huesman vs Mckinnon goes, Huesman had more total yards in about 2/3s the starts. As football players Mckinnon MAY be better, as QBs it's Huesman by far.

Buddy, if I went into your field, and I was still scouting Division 2 football. I would be extremely embarrassed. You clearly don't know what you are talking about. If you are so smart why are you still watching game film of low-level college football? That's what I thought. You can't even follow a message board. I was responding to the bolded, which is why I bolded. If you don't think Terrell Robinson is one of the top 6 receivers in the conference than you have another reason to quit now.

McKinnon had as many TD's rushing as Huesman had combined. I could give you a slight edge to Huesman being a better overall QB, but there has to be a place for McKinnon on the list.

chattownmocs
July 24th, 2013, 01:17 PM
McKinnon had as many TD's rushing as Huesman had combined. I could give you a slight edge to Huesman being a better overall QB, but there has to be a place for McKinnon on the list.

Did he have 21? How many total tds did he have? I bet it was close per game. Huesman's numbers were not mind blowing last year at all. Mckinnon's rushing numbers were, but they play QB.

smallcollegefbfan
July 24th, 2013, 01:20 PM
As far as Huesman vs Mckinnon goes, Huesman had more total yards in about 2/3s the starts. As football players Mckinnon MAY be better, as QBs it's Huesman by far.

Buddy, if I went into your field, and I was still scouting Division 2 football. I would be extremely embarrassed. You clearly don't know what you are talking about. If you are so smart why are you still watching game film of low-level college football? That's what I thought. You can't even follow a message board. I was responding to the bolded, which is why I bolded. If you don't think Terrell Robinson is one of the top 6 receivers in the conference than you have another reason to quit now.

McKinnon is no doubt the better player and yes Huesman is a better passer but QB is defined as a passer, runner, leader, winner, etc. McKinnon is the better player playing QB right now.

I never said I did not look at the big school guys. I actually do. I can tell you I know more about your Vols than you may think. NFL is looking heavily at Daniel McCullers, James Stone, Ja'Wuan James, Zach Fulton, Rajioni Neal, Jacques Smith, Maurice Couch, and Alex Bullard. If the combine were voted on today McCullers, Stone, James, Fulton, Neal, and maybe Smith would all get an invite.

I actually get paid to look at these guys. How much do NFL teams and all-star games pay you to watch all these guys? How many NFL team draft rooms have you sat in, how many rosters have you picked for games, how many players have you placed in games, etc.? If you have then I would be happy (not being sarcastic here at all honestly) to email with you privately and send you emails to about 10 GMs I know and you send them your UTC evaluations. See if they trash it or respond and actually talk with you.

By the way, the NFL Scouting Combine sent out their grades and I officially got them. Every UTC player was given a reject grade except for Lott and he was given a low free agent grade. I actually graded your guys higher than they did by giving Lott a PFA grade and Key a free agent grade. Again, let me know if you want to talk to NFL teams and I can give you any email you want and you can talk with them! I'll bet 1000 bucks they won't reply or even read if you say some of what you have said on here. And if you are smarter than those guys than you should apply for their jobs. I am guessing you don't make 1-2 million bucks a year? If not, then you should apply. Let's see how many Super Bowls you win :)

smallcollegefbfan
July 24th, 2013, 01:22 PM
McKinnon had as many TD's rushing as Huesman had combined. I could give you a slight edge to Huesman being a better overall QB, but there has to be a place for McKinnon on the list.

I'm with you. McKinnon has to be there. He isn't a passer but he is a football player. He's kind of like JSU WR Alan Bonner last year. He went in the 6th round and was a football player. OVC should have put him on their list. It happens though. At least in McKinnon's case we haven't gotten to the postseason yet.

eaglewraith
July 24th, 2013, 01:24 PM
Did he have 21? How many total tds did he have? I bet it was close per game. Huesman's numbers were not mind blowing last year at all. Mckinnon's rushing numbers were, but they play QB.

Huesman had 20 total TD's last year. McKinnon had 20 rushing with a total of 27. Jerick also didn't take over at QB until midway through the 4th game. He didn't have many snaps before that.

chattownmocs
July 24th, 2013, 01:26 PM
McKinnon is no doubt the better player and yes Huesman is a better passer but QB is defined as a passer, runner, leader, winner, etc. McKinnon is the better player playing QB right now.

I never said I did not look at the big school guys. I actually do. I can tell you I know more about your Vols than you may think. NFL is looking heavily at Daniel McCullers, James Stone, Ja'Wuan James, Zach Fulton, Rajioni Neal, Jacques Smith, Maurice Couch, and Alex Bullard. If the combine were voted on today McCullers, Stone, James, Fulton, Neal, and maybe Smith would all get an invite.

I actually get paid to look at these guys. How much do NFL teams and all-star games pay you to watch all these guys? How many NFL team draft rooms have you sat in, how many rosters have you picked for games, how many players have you placed in games, etc.? If you have then I would be happy (not being sarcastic here at all honestly) to email with you privately and send you emails to about 10 GMs I know and you send them your UTC evaluations. See if they trash it or respond and actually talk with you.

By the way, the NFL Scouting Combine sent out their grades and I officially got them. Every UTC player was given a reject grade except for Lott and he was given a low free agent grade. I actually graded your guys higher than they did by giving Lott a PFA grade and Key a free agent grade. Again, let me know if you want to talk to NFL teams and I can give you any email you want and you can talk with them! I'll bet 1000 bucks they won't reply or even read if you say some of what you have said on here. And if you are smarter than those guys than you should apply for their jobs. I am guessing you don't make 1-2 million bucks a year? If not, then you should apply. Let's see how many Super Bowls you win :)

Wow, aren't you famous? You are an extremely low level scout, why can't you admit that? You are a nobody. You are extremely insignificant and unsuccessful in your field in the grand scheme of things. BTW, you just missed Tennessee's best prospect by far. Let me guess, he isn't a senior so you dont know? LMAO

chattownmocs
July 24th, 2013, 01:30 PM
Huesman had 20 total TD's last year. McKinnon had 20 rushing with a total of 27. Jerick also didn't take over at QB until midway through the 4th game. He didn't have many snaps before that.

I'm pretty sure Huesman had 21 TDs. I'm not sure how many games or snaps Mckinnon had. He could have been chosen, but wasn't. The reason is because he plays QB, and rushing yards are not the end all.

eaglewraith
July 24th, 2013, 01:37 PM
I'm pretty sure Huesman had 21 TDs. I'm not sure how many games or snaps Mckinnon had. He could have been chosen, but wasn't. The reason is because he plays QB, and rushing yards are not the end all.

According to the NCAA stats database he only had 20, but it doesn't mean it's completely accurate either. McKinnon didn't generate as many overall yards, but his point production was higher. I agree the rushing yards are not the end all, but when it comes down to it, I'd take McKinnon over Huesman to lead my offense any day of the week.

FCS_pwns_FBS
July 24th, 2013, 01:42 PM
The most impressive thing about McKinnon IMO is what he did in the last 4 games...109 yards against UGA, 168 against NDSU, 316 against Central Arkansas, and 171 against ODU. That's 764 yards in four games, one versus a major BCS team and three playoff games.

Show me any FCS offensive player who could compare to that.

chattownmocs
July 24th, 2013, 01:42 PM
According to the NCAA stats database he only had 20, but it doesn't mean it's completely accurate either. McKinnon didn't generate as many overall yards, but his point production was higher. I agree the rushing yards are not the end all, but when it comes down to it, I'd take McKinnon over Huesman to lead my offense any day of the week.

That's because you run the triple option. Not that Huesman wouldn't put up silly rushing numbers in that offense either.

chattownmocs
July 24th, 2013, 01:42 PM
The most impressive thing about McKinnon IMO is what he did in the last 4 games...109 yards against UGA, 168 against NDSU, 316 against Central Arkansas, and 171 against ODU. That's 764 yards in four games, one versus a major BCS team and three playoff games.

Show me any FCS offensive player who could compare to that.

Most QBs.

eaglewraith
July 24th, 2013, 01:44 PM
Most QBs.

Except UTC, cause you don't play in the playoffs.

citdog
July 24th, 2013, 01:45 PM
Except UTC, cause you don't play in the playoffs.

neither will mckinnon or the eaglets

eaglewraith
July 24th, 2013, 01:47 PM
neither will mckinnon or the eaglets

By choice, not because we suck.

EKU-n-GSU
July 24th, 2013, 02:15 PM
Interesting that Garrett Frye has 3 preseason AA selections and not first-team all-SoCon.

Also, once again, McKinnon is one of the best players in the country. You have to at least find some place for him.

+1 on both statements, homer or not.

PaladinNation
July 24th, 2013, 02:38 PM
Well Furman has only one direction to go… UP :-)

On a side note; barring injury, I'd bet on Marcus McMorris being all SoCon by the end of the season.

SpeedkingATL
July 24th, 2013, 03:15 PM
McKinnon, like many before him that played QB in the option falls between the cracks on this kind of listing. If there was a listing of Athlete he would be first team SoCon. If he were considered a running back rather than a QB, I would think he would at least make the top 4 in the SoCon. That's why these types of lists don't always tell the whole story.

asumike83
July 24th, 2013, 04:34 PM
If Noogie doesn't win the conference (by default) Huesman should be shown the door.

I agree. They have the most all-conference selections and the two biggest roadblocks in their way are ineligible. If they do not at least make the playoffs, I'd want a change if I were a UTC fan.

Huesman has absolutely made the program better but in year five, no excuses. This is his team.

PaladinFan
July 24th, 2013, 04:48 PM
Well Furman has only one direction to go… UP :-)

On a side note; barring injury, I'd bet on Marcus McMorris being all SoCon by the end of the season.

Furman has a lot of young players. Will rely on a lot of guys that have had very little playing time. Not hard to imagine that we didn't have a lot of guys make the team. Dozier is a nobrainer, but it was also nice to see Gary Wilkins get the nod, despite having not having played DE until this year. There are some folks I've spoken to that think Wilkins could be the among the league's best pass rushers by year's end.

I do wonder, though, whether Ray Early counts as one player or two. Not often a guy makes first team all-conference at two positions. Congrats to him. With as many close games as Furman plays, it'll be nice to have a good specialist out there.

ursus arctos horribilis
July 24th, 2013, 05:48 PM
The most impressive thing about McKinnon IMO is what he did in the last 4 games...109 yards against UGA, 168 against NDSU, 316 against Central Arkansas, and 171 against ODU. That's 764 yards in four games, one versus a major BCS team and three playoff games.

Show me any FCS offensive player who could compare to that.

Dave Dickenson.

smallcollegefbfan
July 24th, 2013, 09:22 PM
+1 on both statements, homer or not.

Not a homer. McKinnon belongs!

EKU-n-GSU
July 24th, 2013, 09:23 PM
Not a homer. McKinnon belongs!

I was talking about Frye...kinda near and dear to my heart, if ya know what I mean! xsmiley_wix

smallcollegefbfan
July 24th, 2013, 09:43 PM
I was talking about Frye...kinda near and dear to my heart, if ya know what I mean! xsmiley_wix

Ah well Frye belongs on the list. I would have flipped him and Lamm on the first team but I can see why they put Lamm. He's the best NFL prospect of the junior linemen on the list.

chattanoogamocs
July 24th, 2013, 11:37 PM
You know who else though McKinnon should have been picked?

Russ Huesman


Huesman said seeing his son, who started 10 games as a freshman last season, on the second team was unexpected.

"I love him, but I was actually very, very surprised," said Coach Huesman, who expected Georgia Southern quarterback Jerick McKinnon to be all-conference along with Appalachian State quarterback Jamal Londry-Jackson, the preseason pick for offensive player of the year.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/jul/25/mocs-have-most-preseason-stars/

seantaylor
July 25th, 2013, 02:35 AM
McKinnon is the best player in the FCS. To not have him on the first team is criminal. Frye should also be first team. The post season lists will be loaded with Eagles, though.

GlassOnion
July 25th, 2013, 09:56 AM
I think Blair at DE is a good choice. I think he is going to have a big year with Robinson back opposite to him, and the DL being 3 or 4 deep. The App defense really missed a legit pass rusher last year. Had Rizor stayed eligible, and Robinson stayed at DE, App's 2012 defense would have been in a much better position. Teams wouldn't have had time to pick on the one weak safety spot.

smallcollegefbfan
July 25th, 2013, 08:49 PM
McKinnon is the best player in the FCS. To not have him on the first team is criminal. Frye should also be first team. The post season lists will be loaded with Eagles, though.

That is a bit bias. He's up there though. If I were ranking FCS players I would say he is the 3rd best in the Southern Conference and top 10-15 in the country. He was certainly the best in the playoffs though. I have 3 DL, 2 WRs, and 1 OL ahead of him on my list. No question he should be the offensive player of the year simply because I think App is going to spread it around to what I call the best receiving corps in FCS and Jackson won't put up the total offense numbers that McKinnon will. If he does, then Jackson may find himself going in the mid-late rounds, although I agree with the NFL Scouting Combine right now and have him as a mid level free agent. McKinnon is a great athlete and someone I believe could go as high as the 5th round.

Lehigh Football Nation
September 15th, 2013, 01:30 AM
2013 SoCon Football Preseason Coaches Poll

School (First-place votes) Points
1. Georgia Southern (6) 57
2. Appalachian State (2) 51
3. Chattanooga (1) 47
4. Samford 43
5. Wofford 40
6. The Citadel 33
7. Furman 25
8. Elon 16
9. Western Carolina 12

NOTE: Coaches were not permitted to vote for their own team

www.soconsports.com (http://www.soconsports.com)

Hm.

blueballs
September 15th, 2013, 07:03 AM
Hm.

The season is not over yet... let the games play themselves out.