2012 AnyGivenSaturday Top 25 Poll - Final Poll Results

[AGSPoll]

1 North Dakota State Bison 1200 48
2T Georgia Southern Eagles 1114
2T Sam Houston State Bearkats 1114
4 Eastern Washington Eagles 1021
5 Wofford Terriers 987
6 Old Dominion Monarchs 923
7 Montana State Bobcats 892
8 Illinois State Redbirds 839
9 Cal Poly Mustangs 750
10 Appalachian State Mountaineers 731
11 Central Arkansas Bears 718
12 Stony Brook Seawolves 699
13 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 641
14 New Hampshire Wildcats 500
15 Villanova Wildcats 447
16 Towson Tigers 398
17 Wagner Seahawks 349
18 Richmond Spiders 342
19 Lehigh Mountain Hawks 270
20 Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 240
21 Colgate Raiders 201
22 Coastal Carolina Chanticleers 195
23 James Madison Dukes 192
24T Albany Great Danes 150
24T Bethune-Cookman Wildcats 150

The Most Significant Win Goes To:
North Dakota State Bison

The Most Significant Loss Goes To:
Sam Houston State Bearkats


26 Eastern Illinois Panthers 139
27 Indiana State Sycamores 134
28 Eastern Kentucky Colonels 123
29 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 37
30 Youngstown State Penguins 24
31 The Citadel Bulldogs 18
32 Harvard Crimson 16
33 Chattanooga Mocs 10
34 Sacramento State Hornets 7
35T Samford Bulldogs 6
35T Central Connecticut State Blue Devils 6
37T Northern Iowa Panthers 5
37T Southern Utah Thunderbirds 5
39 Southern Illinois Salukis 3
40 Tennessee State Tigers 2

[citdog]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: Wofford Terriers
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Old Dominion Monarchs
7: Montana State Bobcats
8: Illinois State Redbirds
9: Stony Brook Seawolves
10: Central Arkansas Bears
11: Cal Poly Mustangs
12: Appalachian State Mountaineers
13: Wagner Seahawks
14: New Hampshire Wildcats
15: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
16: Villanova Wildcats
17: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
18: Eastern Illinois Panthers
19: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
20: Colgate Raiders
21: Richmond Spiders
22: Towson Tigers
23: James Madison Dukes
24: The Citadel Bulldogs
25: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks


snipe away

[Samalum'10]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: Wofford Terriers
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Old Dominion Monarchs
7: Montana State Bobcats
8: Illinois State Redbirds
9: Stony Brook Seawolves
10: Central Arkansas Bears
11: Cal Poly Mustangs
12: Appalachian State Mountaineers
13: Wagner Seahawks
14: New Hampshire Wildcats
15: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
16: Villanova Wildcats
17: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
18: Eastern Illinois Panthers
19: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
20: Colgate Raiders
21: Richmond Spiders
22: Towson Tigers
23: James Madison Dukes
24: The Citadel Bulldogs
25: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks


snipe away
I'd have SFA in the 22-25 range...

Solid poll otherwise

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Eastern Illinois didn't make it? Ouch!

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

My Grand Finale...

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Wofford Terriers
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Old Dominion Monarchs
7: Illinois State Redbirds
8: Central Arkansas Bears
9: Cal Poly Mustangs
10: Montana State Bobcats
11: Stony Brook Seawolves
12: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
13: Towson Tigers
14: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
15: Appalachian State Mountaineers
16: Villanova Wildcats
17: Wagner Seahawks
18: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
19: Colgate Raiders
20: New Hampshire Wildcats
21: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
22: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
23: Albany Great Danes
24: James Madison Dukes
25: Indiana State Sycamores

[citdog]

My Grand Finale...

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Wofford Terriers
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Old Dominion Monarchs
7: Illinois State Redbirds
8: Central Arkansas Bears
9: Cal Poly Mustangs
10: Montana State Bobcats
11: Stony Brook Seawolves
12: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
13: Towson Tigers
14: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
15: Appalachian State Mountaineers
16: Villanova Wildcats
17: Wagner Seahawks
18: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
19: Colgate Raiders
20: New Hampshire Wildcats
21: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
22: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
23: Albany Great Danes
24: James Madison Dukes
25: Indiana State Sycamores


SERIOUSLY DUDE YOU SUCK. LEHIGH AHEAD OF ACTUAL PLAYOFF TEAMS.


YOU SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO VOTE NEXT YEAR.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

SERIOUSLY DUDE YOU SUCK. LEHIGH AHEAD OF ACTUAL PLAYOFF TEAMS.


YOU SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO VOTE NEXT YEAR.

Outstanding...

[danefan]

My Grand Finale...

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Wofford Terriers
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Old Dominion Monarchs
7: Illinois State Redbirds
8: Central Arkansas Bears
9: Cal Poly Mustangs
10: Montana State Bobcats
11: Stony Brook Seawolves
12: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
13: Towson Tigers
14: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
15: Appalachian State Mountaineers
16: Villanova Wildcats
17: Wagner Seahawks
18: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
19: Colgate Raiders
20: New Hampshire Wildcats
21: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
22: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
23: Albany Great Danes
24: James Madison Dukes
25: Indiana State Sycamores

Lehigh lost to Colgate who got handled by both Wagner and Albany. I wouldn't have put them anywhere near the Top 15.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

SERIOUSLY DUDE YOU SUCK. LEHIGH AHEAD OF ACTUAL PLAYOFF TEAMS.


YOU SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO VOTE NEXT YEAR.

Golly, you'd hate mine then. :D

[Walkon79]

Can't argue with the placement of the Cats in the end. We were obviously at the lower end, talent-wise of the elite 8 :(

[citdog]

Golly, you'd hate mine then. :D


are you sure you got it in on time?

[Lehigh Football Nation]

1 North Dakota State Bison 1200 48
2T Georgia Southern Eagles 1114
2T Sam Houston State Bearkats 1114

That's real interesting that GSU/SHSU split perfectly down the middle for the No. 2... I thought I'd be one of the few ranking GSU above SHSU, but evidently I was mistaken.

[superman7515]

Lehigh lost to Colgate who got handled by both Wagner and Albany. I wouldn't have put them anywhere near the Top 15.

Agreed danefan, pretty much no logical reason for anyone to put Lehigh in the Top 15, especially with Colgate behind them. Among the weakest SOS in D1, didn't win their conference or make the playoffs, got beaten by double digits at home after getting shut out in the 2nd half of the de facto PL championship game, signature win was over a 6-5 Liberty team whose only non-conference win was over a D2 school. Other than homerism or not paying attention, it's hot garbage.

[citdog]

Agreed danefan, pretty much no logical reason for anyone to put Lehigh in the Top 15, especially with Colgate behind them. Among the weakest SOS in D1, didn't win their conference or make the playoffs, got beaten by double digits at home after getting shut out in the 2nd half of the de facto PL championship game, signature win was over a 6-5 Liberty team whose only non-conference win was over a D2 school. Other than homerism or not paying attention, it's hot garbage.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY6wwAhvirY

[CID1990]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: Wofford Terriers
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Old Dominion Monarchs
7: Montana State Bobcats
8: Illinois State Redbirds
9: Stony Brook Seawolves
10: Central Arkansas Bears
11: Cal Poly Mustangs
12: Appalachian State Mountaineers
13: Wagner Seahawks
14: New Hampshire Wildcats
15: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
16: Villanova Wildcats
17: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
18: Eastern Illinois Panthers
19: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
20: Colgate Raiders
21: Richmond Spiders
22: Towson Tigers
23: James Madison Dukes
24: The Citadel Bulldogs
25: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks


snipe away

Your #21-#25 would easily handle your #17 and #19.

CCU shouldnt have been anywhere near the playoffs. They could hardly handle Vermin.

[Eaglesrus]

Your #21-#25 would easily handle your #17 and #19.

CCU shouldnt have been anywhere near the playoffs. They could hardly handle Vermin.

And if CCU shouldn't (which I agree with), what does that say about Bethune-Cookman?

[FargoBison]

IMO Towson is easily a top 15 team. They would have won a few playoff games.

they would absolutely dismantle CCU, Lehigh and Colgate.

[TheRevSFA]

I'd have SFA in the 22-25 range...

Solid poll otherwise

Wait? What?

[CID1990]

And if CCU shouldn't (which I agree with), what does that say about Bethune-Cookman?

Yeah, that's why I said #17 and #19. Neither of them would be able to handle the bottom 5. Heck, El Cid would have cleaned them up too. especially the way we were playing at the end of the season.

[Pard4Life]

The voters must not have remembered that Lehigh did not make the playoffs, even with one loss, and that Colgate did... and yet, Colgate is ranked below Lehigh.

My final poll is similar, with Indiana St., Tennessee-Martin, and Harvard in lieu of CCU, BCU, and Lehigh.

[Eaglesrus]

Yeah, that's why I said #17 and #19. Neither of them would be able to handle the bottom 5. Heck, El Cid would have cleaned them up too. especially the way we were playing at the end of the season.

I knew that you and I agreed on the subject, mine was meant to be more of a question about the ranking of BCC ahead of CCU. Both got in due to auto-bids, I would hope that they wouldn't have otherwise. Personally, I didn't even have either of them in my final top 25.

[DSUrocks07]

Forgot to vote...darn.

Oh well maybe I can get perfection next year. xpeacex

[Mr. C]

How could anyone rank New Hampshire ahead of Towson? Towson has scored 120 points on UNH in the past two years and tied UNH for the CAA title (along with Villanova and Richmond). Towson also handled Villanova pretty easily.

[Mr. C]

IMO Towson is easily a top 15 team. They would have won a few playoff games.

they would absolutely dismantle CCU, Lehigh and Colgate.

Towson might have given NDSU the best game it had during the playoffs, if the Tigers would have had the chance. Towson was playing well enough to make it to Frisco at the end of the season.

[Professor Chaos]

South Dakota St was a top 10 team this year.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Taking a shot for next year

1. NDSU
2. Georgia Southern
3. Cal Poly
4. Towson
5. Northern Iowa
6. Villanova
7. App State
8. EWU
9. SHSU
10. JMU
11. Central Arkansas
12. Southern Illinois
13. Richmond
14. Montana State
15. Stony Brook
16. Wofford
17. UNH
18. Lehigh
19. South Dakota State
20. Chattanooga
21. Colgate
22. Illinois State
23. McNeese State
24. Montana
25. Albany

Just missed, Liberty, EKU, Wagner, Harvard, SF Austin

[Professor Chaos]

Taking a shot for next year

1. NDSU
2. Georgia Southern
3. Cal Poly
4. Towson
5. Northern Iowa
6. Villanova
7. App State
8. EWU
9. SHSU
10. JMU
11. Central Arkansas
12. Southern Illinois
13. Richmond
14. Montana State
15. Stony Brook
16. Wofford
17. UNH
18. Lehigh
19. South Dakota State
20. Chattanooga
21. Colgate
22. Illinois State
23. McNeese State
24. Montana
25. Albany

Just missed, Liberty, EKU, Wagner, Harvard, SF Austin
I'm xdeadhorsex here but SDSU should be higher than that in the preseason polls next year. They're returning all their offensive skill players and some very good young players on defense. I think they're losing their defense captain in Shafrath (sp?) but I would have them at preseason #2 in the MVFC ahead of both SIU and UNI.

[andy7171]

LOL at everyone ranking UNH and Nova over Towson.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

You know, I realize that a final RS poll is probably even more meaningless than the preseason poll but just for the sake of discussion, why rank Sam Houston #2?

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

I'm xdeadhorsex here but SDSU should be higher than that in the preseason polls next year. They're returning all their offensive skill players and some very good young players on defense. I think they're losing their defense captain in Shafrath (sp?) but I would have them at preseason #2 in the MVFC ahead of both SIU and UNI.

It isn't very scientific. The Jack Rabbits are definitely on my radar though. I just have a feeling UNI will come back with vengeance and SIU a sleeping giant in the MVFC. I believe Youngstown St. and Indiana St. missed their opportunities this season.

[bojeta]

Taking a shot for next year

1. NDSU
2. Georgia Southern
3. Cal Poly
4. Towson
5. Northern Iowa
6. Villanova
7. App State
8. EWU
9. SHSU
10. JMU
11. Central Arkansas
12. Southern Illinois
13. Richmond
14. Montana State
15. Stony Brook
16. Wofford
17. UNH
18. Lehigh
19. South Dakota State
20. Chattanooga
21. Colgate
22. Illinois State
23. McNeese State
24. Montana
25. Albany

Just missed, Liberty, EKU, Wagner, Harvard, SF Austin

I would switch a few around, but generally, this looks like one of the best pre-season guesses I've seen in years. Of course we all know there will be a surprise team that come from nowhere to make the top ten. NDSU looks like a tough three-pete to overcome. Can't imagine anyone with sense will argue the number 1 preseason spot. Damn! How many days til next season????

[KUlawJack]

I'm xdeadhorsex here but SDSU should be higher than that in the preseason polls next year. They're returning all their offensive skill players and some very good young players on defense. I think they're losing their defense captain in Shafrath (sp?) but I would have them at preseason #2 in the MVFC ahead of both SIU and UNI.

We are returning nearly our entire 2 deep on the offensive line and are adding a couple Redshirt freshmen to the mix on the O line. Losing two starting receivers but we have two more years of Sumner and Zenner. Losing some starters on D we will miss but we've got some good young guys coming up. We should be decent. We have UNI, NDSU, SIU, and ISU-b all at home which is nice.

[Twentysix]

We are returning nearly our entire 2 deep on the offensive line and are adding a couple Redshirt freshmen to the mix on the O line. Losing two starting receivers but we have two more years of Sumner and Zenner. Losing some starters on D we will miss but we've got some good young guys coming up. We should be decent. We have UNI, NDSU, SIU, and ISU-b all at home which is nice.

Won't matter :p.

[KUlawJack]

Won't matter :p.

Better chance than in the Fargodome.

I guess that pretty obvious though.

[CFBfan]

My Grand Finale...

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Wofford Terriers
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Old Dominion Monarchs
7: Illinois State Redbirds
8: Central Arkansas Bears
9: Cal Poly Mustangs
10: Montana State Bobcats
11: Stony Brook Seawolves
12: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
13: Towson Tigers
14: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
15: Appalachian State Mountaineers
16: Villanova Wildcats
17: Wagner Seahawks
18: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
19: Colgate Raiders
20: New Hampshire Wildcats
21: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
22: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
23: Albany Great Danes
24: James Madison Dukes
25: Indiana State Sycamores

You Lehigh guys are delusional!! 12th!! what a joke!! you put LU at 12 and Colgate WHO BEAT YOU at 19 ! HA!!!!! not to mention the numerous others who you ranked below LU based on what?? brown colored glasses

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

You Lehigh guys are delusional!! 12th!! what a joke!! you put LU at 12 and Colgate WHO BEAT YOU at 19 ! HA!!!!! not to mention the numerous others who you ranked below LU based on what?? brown colored glasses

Should I have Indiana State ranked ahead of NDSU? Maybe Central Arkansas ahead of SHSU? Perhaps Texas A&M ahead of Alabama in FBS?

Why do you fail to mention Towson being 11 spots ahead of a JMU team they lost to? Because it's not Lehigh right? You should have realized by now that Lehigh finished ahead of Colgate in EVERY poll!

I'm confident both Lehigh and Towson are better than a handful of teams that made the playoffs. Just because you lose 1 league game in 3 years does not mean you're not a good team. Lehigh was still one of only 9 teams in the country to reach 10 wins this season. I also have no problem with ranking Ivy League teams into the Final 15 when warranted either.

The biggest screwup in my poll was not where I ranked Lehigh but where I didn't rank Richmond. The Spiders are another team that should be ahead of 4 or 5 playoff squads.

[TheRevSFA]

You know, I realize that a final RS poll is probably even more meaningless than the preseason poll but just for the sake of discussion, why rank Sam Houston #2?

Let me guess, you're asking because you think GSU would beat Sam?

Sam lost in the NC. Give them the 2 spot and quit your bitchin.

[Professor Chaos]

I'm confident both Lehigh and Towson are better than a handful of teams that made the playoffs.

Unless you're talking about Lehigh being better than a few autobids I disagree. Towson was arguably better than teams like Stony Brook and UNH but the only basis for saying Lehigh was better than any of those teams is the "just trust me" argument and that doesn't hold water at the end of the season.

Seemed to me that there were a lot of people trying to justify Lehigh being ranked highly by also ranking Colgate. Colgate was ranked 25th in the final regular season poll and then jumped 4 spots despite losing to Wagner in their first playoff game. Similarly Wagner went from 29th to 17th by beating Colgate and losing to EWU. Might have had a lot to do with the fact that the final poll only had half the voters of the last regular season poll but there was certainly some curious movement out of the small east coast schools.