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smallcollegefbfan
November 25th, 2012, 01:11 PM
My initial reaction is that Robert Alford got snubbed big time. He has to be 1st team IMO. Alford, Webb, and Williams are the 3 best CBs in the nation for sure. Then I think McCray, Swanson, and Godbolt are right there after them.

I think the Tenn State TE was snubbed as well. I'm not a huge fan of Peiffer. I don't think he has a future at the next level at all while many of the others are at least good enough to get a shot. I would also put Colin Anderson ahead of the UTC TE. I don't think Anderson is going to make a 53-man roster in the NFL but he is good enough that he will get a shot and was a good receiver for Furman the last two years.

For FOY I would go with Sean Price for sure but Jeff Williams is a stud. I think Williams should have been 2nd team All-CAA and should have an All-American season next year. He is big, can run, and a good tackler. Impressed me big time in their games.

Montori Hughes is a big snub at DT. He's the best NT in the nation while Brent Russell and Nicholas Williams should have gotten love IMO.

There were a lot of questionable picks on the OL IMO.

What do you guys think?



http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/5490

Coach of the Year Freshman of the Year
Craig Bohl, North Dakota State Jeff Williams, Delaware
Offensive Player of the Year Defensive Player of the Year
DeNarius McGhee, Montana State Colton Underwood, Illinois State

First Team
Offense Defense
QB DeNarius McGhee, Montana State DL Caleb Schreibeis, Montana State
RB Eric Breitenstein, Wofford DL Brandon Thurmond, Arkansas-Pine Bluff
RB Miguel Maysonet, Stony Brook DL Colton Underwood, Illinois State
WR Erik Lora, Eastern Illinois DL Lebrandon Richardson, Bethune-Cookman
WR Brandon Kaufman, Eastern Washington LB Blake Peiffer, Southeast Mo State
WR Aaron Mellette, Elon LB Ian Sluss, Portland State
TE Kyle Juszczyk, Harvard LB Jeremy Kimbrough, Appalachian State
OL Mike Vuono, Lehigh LB Stephon Robertson, James Madison
OL Mike Sellers, Citadel DB Darnell Taylor, Sam Houston State
OL Earl Watford, James Madison DB Jaquiski Tartt, Samford
OL Chris Howley, Maine DB Cooper Taylor, Richmond
OL Patrick Ford, Eastern Kentucky DB Marcus Williams, North Dakota State
K Colton Cook, Southern Utah P Andy Wilder, Northern Arizona
KR Jerodis Williams, Furman PR Dominic Gunn, Northern Colorado

Second Team
Offense Defense
QB Jamal Jackson, Appalachian State DL Jerry Ceja, Eastern Washington
RB Tim Flanders, Sam Houston State DL Zach Hodges, Harvard
RB Zach Bauman, Northern Arizona DL Joseph Lebeau, Jackson State
WR Nick Mayers, Old Dominion DL Cole Jirik, North Dakota State
WR Cordell Roberson, Stephen F. Austin LB Robert McCabe, Georgetown
WR Jordan Harris, Bryant LB Matt Evans, New Hampshire
TE MyCole Pruitt, Southern Illinois LB Monte Gaddis, Towson
OL Aaron Adams, Eastern Kentucky LB Jordan Tripp, Montana
OL Tytan Timoteo, Weber State DB Nico Molino, Cal Poly
OL Kadeem Williams, Albany DB Demetrius McCray, Appalachian State
OL Jack Lowney, Old Dominion DB Eric Loper, Villanova
OL Jack Templeton, Brown DB Robert Alford, Southeastern Louisiana
K Patrick Murray, Fordham P Chad Zinchini, Tennessee Tech
KR Otis Wright, Wagner PR Austin Shanks, Northern Arizona

Third Team
Offense Defense
QB Casey Brockman, Murray State DL Dion Dubose, Georgia Southern
RB Zach Zenner, South Dakota State DL Jeremy Stephens, Butler
RB Terrance West, Towson DL Cody Larson, Southern Utah
WR Quentin Sims, Tennessee-Martin DL Ryan Nearhoof, Robert Morris
WR Walter Powell, Murray State LB Jayson DiManche, Southern Illinois
WR Rico Richardson, Jackson State LB Wes Dothard, Chattanooga
TE Faysal Shafaat, Chattanooga LB Tanner Burch, Gardner-Webb
OL Mark Pratt, Youngstown State LB Todd Davis, Sacramento State
OL Jamie Dunaway, Gardner-Webb DB Johnny Towalid, Indiana State
OL Dorian Byrd, Georgia Southern DB Blake Wylie, Wofford
OL Billy Turner, North Dakota State DB Lucky Dozier, Northern Arizona
OL Cory Howard, Central Arkansas DB Ben Ericksen, Illinois State
K Jimmy Pavel, Eastern Washington P Matt Hubbard, Georgia State
KR Greg Hardin, North Dakota PR Walter Powell, Murray State

Mr. C
November 25th, 2012, 01:16 PM
No Colin Anderson from Furman at TE? Anderson was picked ahead of Faysal Shafaet of UTC on the All-SoCon teams. He was an All-American last season and still put up good numbers against a lot of defensive attention. Kyle Juszczyk of Harvard is the only other TE in Anderson's league at the FCS level. Big swing and miss there.

UNH Fanboi
November 25th, 2012, 01:23 PM
No Tyler Heinicke??

slostang
November 25th, 2012, 01:32 PM
Deonte Williams > Zach Bauman

DJnva
November 25th, 2012, 01:33 PM
So, 3 QBs had better seasons than Taylor Heinicke?

Ooooookay.

Well, they got the "Madness" part correct.

smallcollegefbfan
November 25th, 2012, 01:38 PM
No Colin Anderson from Furman at TE? Anderson was picked ahead of Faysal Shafaet of UTC on the All-SoCon teams. He was an All-American last season and still put up good numbers against a lot of defensive attention. Kyle Juszczyk of Harvard is the only other TE in Anderson's league at the FCS level. Big swing and miss there.

I thought so too. I will say there are a lot of good underclassmen TEs though. With Shafaat and Leonard there are going to be some good returning TEs but still I wouldn't put them ahead of Anderson quite yet.

smallcollegefbfan
November 25th, 2012, 01:39 PM
Deonte Williams > Zach Bauman

Have to disagree there. Bauman is so good he will get drafted next year if he stays healthy. He is a very good receiver out of the backfield and doesn't play in a system where the RB is going to have big numbers like Cal Poly does. I do think Williams is up there though and I would put him among the top 10 RBs in FCS for sure.

fatmonarch
November 25th, 2012, 01:40 PM
Lack of heinicke really hurts the credibility of this.

smallcollegefbfan
November 25th, 2012, 01:40 PM
So, 3 QBs had better seasons than Taylor Heinicke?

Ooooookay.

Well, they got the "Madness" part correct.

I was thinking the same thing. While I may not put Taylor #1 and I can respect someone who doesn't, he clearly has to be in the top 3 and you can argue he should be #1. I love the toughness, intelligence, and the play of Taylor. I think he is clearly an All-American.

The major teams that matter and will upset me if Taylor is snubbed is the AFCA, AP, Walter Camp, TSN, Phil Steele, and CSJ. Let's see if they honor him. Those are the ones that matter most.

BigHouseClosedEnd
November 25th, 2012, 01:48 PM
Glad to see Cooper Taylor get the credit he deserves.

FCS_pwns_FBS
November 25th, 2012, 02:06 PM
Sorry, but it's a joke not having Brent Russell even listed on the third team.

lionsrking2
November 25th, 2012, 02:11 PM
Whoever put this together is totally clueless.


My initial reaction is that Robert Alford got snubbed big time. He has to be 1st team IMO. Alford, Webb, and Williams are the 3 best CBs in the nation for sure. Then I think McCray, Swanson, and Godbolt are right there after them.

I think the Tenn State TE was snubbed as well. I'm not a huge fan of Peiffer. I don't think he has a future at the next level at all while many of the others are at least good enough to get a shot. I would also put Colin Anderson ahead of the UTC TE. I don't think Anderson is going to make a 53-man roster in the NFL but he is good enough that he will get a shot and was a good receiver for Furman the last two years.

For FOY I would go with Sean Price for sure but Jeff Williams is a stud. I think Williams should have been 2nd team All-CAA and should have an All-American season next year. He is big, can run, and a good tackler. Impressed me big time in their games.

Montori Hughes is a big snub at DT. He's the best NT in the nation while Brent Russell and Nicholas Williams should have gotten love IMO.

There were a lot of questionable picks on the OL IMO.

What do you guys think?



http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/5490

Coach of the Year Freshman of the Year
Craig Bohl, North Dakota State Jeff Williams, Delaware
Offensive Player of the Year Defensive Player of the Year
DeNarius McGhee, Montana State Colton Underwood, Illinois State

First Team
Offense Defense
QB DeNarius McGhee, Montana State DL Caleb Schreibeis, Montana State
RB Eric Breitenstein, Wofford DL Brandon Thurmond, Arkansas-Pine Bluff
RB Miguel Maysonet, Stony Brook DL Colton Underwood, Illinois State
WR Erik Lora, Eastern Illinois DL Lebrandon Richardson, Bethune-Cookman
WR Brandon Kaufman, Eastern Washington LB Blake Peiffer, Southeast Mo State
WR Aaron Mellette, Elon LB Ian Sluss, Portland State
TE Kyle Juszczyk, Harvard LB Jeremy Kimbrough, Appalachian State
OL Mike Vuono, Lehigh LB Stephon Robertson, James Madison
OL Mike Sellers, Citadel DB Darnell Taylor, Sam Houston State
OL Earl Watford, James Madison DB Jaquiski Tartt, Samford
OL Chris Howley, Maine DB Cooper Taylor, Richmond
OL Patrick Ford, Eastern Kentucky DB Marcus Williams, North Dakota State
K Colton Cook, Southern Utah P Andy Wilder, Northern Arizona
KR Jerodis Williams, Furman PR Dominic Gunn, Northern Colorado

Second Team
Offense Defense
QB Jamal Jackson, Appalachian State DL Jerry Ceja, Eastern Washington
RB Tim Flanders, Sam Houston State DL Zach Hodges, Harvard
RB Zach Bauman, Northern Arizona DL Joseph Lebeau, Jackson State
WR Nick Mayers, Old Dominion DL Cole Jirik, North Dakota State
WR Cordell Roberson, Stephen F. Austin LB Robert McCabe, Georgetown
WR Jordan Harris, Bryant LB Matt Evans, New Hampshire
TE MyCole Pruitt, Southern Illinois LB Monte Gaddis, Towson
OL Aaron Adams, Eastern Kentucky LB Jordan Tripp, Montana
OL Tytan Timoteo, Weber State DB Nico Molino, Cal Poly
OL Kadeem Williams, Albany DB Demetrius McCray, Appalachian State
OL Jack Lowney, Old Dominion DB Eric Loper, Villanova
OL Jack Templeton, Brown DB Robert Alford, Southeastern Louisiana
K Patrick Murray, Fordham P Chad Zinchini, Tennessee Tech
KR Otis Wright, Wagner PR Austin Shanks, Northern Arizona

Third Team
Offense Defense
QB Casey Brockman, Murray State DL Dion Dubose, Georgia Southern
RB Zach Zenner, South Dakota State DL Jeremy Stephens, Butler
RB Terrance West, Towson DL Cody Larson, Southern Utah
WR Quentin Sims, Tennessee-Martin DL Ryan Nearhoof, Robert Morris
WR Walter Powell, Murray State LB Jayson DiManche, Southern Illinois
WR Rico Richardson, Jackson State LB Wes Dothard, Chattanooga
TE Faysal Shafaat, Chattanooga LB Tanner Burch, Gardner-Webb
OL Mark Pratt, Youngstown State LB Todd Davis, Sacramento State
OL Jamie Dunaway, Gardner-Webb DB Johnny Towalid, Indiana State
OL Dorian Byrd, Georgia Southern DB Blake Wylie, Wofford
OL Billy Turner, North Dakota State DB Lucky Dozier, Northern Arizona
OL Cory Howard, Central Arkansas DB Ben Ericksen, Illinois State
K Jimmy Pavel, Eastern Washington P Matt Hubbard, Georgia State
KR Greg Hardin, North Dakota PR Walter Powell, Murray State

kdinva
November 25th, 2012, 02:27 PM
http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/5490

Coach of the Year
Craig Bohl, North Dakota State

Sorry, no slap to Coach Bohl, but ND State was expected to finish in the top 5.......How about Coach Talley at Villanova, Coach Moglia at Coastal Carolina, Coach Rocco at Richmond........even Coach Higgins at ElCid.......all these squads did better than forecasted 14 weeks ago...

DJnva
November 25th, 2012, 02:42 PM
I was thinking the same thing. While I may not put Taylor #1 and I can respect someone who doesn't, he clearly has to be in the top 3 and you can argue he should be #1. I love the toughness, intelligence, and the play of Taylor. I think he is clearly an All-American.

The major teams that matter and will upset me if Taylor is snubbed is the AFCA, AP, Walter Camp, TSN, Phil Steele, and CSJ. Let's see if they honor him. Those are the ones that matter most.

Yeah. You can argue that maybe he's not #1 because you may think another QB with good numbers played a tougher schedule or something. But not to have him top 3 is a bit much.

smallcollegefbfan
November 25th, 2012, 02:57 PM
Sorry, but it's a joke not having Brent Russell even listed on the third team.

Definitely have to have Russell on there somewhere. I would not put him first-team because of how his season ended but should be second-team and you could still argue first-team.

smallcollegefbfan
November 25th, 2012, 02:59 PM
Whoever put this together is totally clueless.

I'm sure you are referencing to Alford being second-team. I agree. He should be up there for sure. I also think some of the OL selections are baffling.

FargoBison
November 25th, 2012, 03:02 PM
Sorry, no slap to Coach Bohl, but ND State was expected to finish in the top 5.......How about Coach Talley at Villanova, Coach Moglia at Coastal Carolina, Coach Rocco at Richmond........even Coach Higgins at ElCid.......all these squads did better than forecasted 14 weeks ago...

Expected and doing it are different things.

ODU Oldtimer
November 25th, 2012, 03:28 PM
ODU quarterback Taylor Heinicke leads the nation in all 4 major catagories
# 1 passing yards,
# 1 passing yards per game,
# 1 total offense,
# 1 points responsible for and touchdown passes.

4th in the Nation in Passing Efficiency.

Was voted ATT Weekly All Anerican - the only FCS player in history to receive this award.

This 2012 Season's Winners

Week 1: Taylor Martinez (QB - Nebraska)
Week 2: Johnathan Franklin (RB - UCLA)
Week 3: Manti Te'o (RB - Stanford)
Week 4: Taylor Heinicke (QB - Old Dominion)
Week 5: Benny Cunningham (RB - Middle Tennessee)
Week 6: Josh Lenz (WR - Iowa State)
Week 7: Johnny Manziel (QB - Texas A&M)
Week 8: Seth Doege (QB - Texas Tech)
Week 9: Giovani Bernard (RB - North Carolina)
Week 10: Johnny Manziel (QB - Texas A&M
)
Set Division I records all FCS and FBS for passing yards in a game with 730 and in total offense with 791 yards

All while leading ODU to Victories over 5 Top 25 teams at the time they played them and a 10 - 1 season. No other FCS program has such accolades.

Yet he is not mentioned for 1st team 2nd team or 3rd team All American Honors???????????

He earned CAA Offensive Player of the Year honors and first-team All-CAA

darell1976
November 25th, 2012, 03:36 PM
Good job Greg Hardin!!

dgreco
November 25th, 2012, 03:37 PM
glad to see Bryant WR Jordan Harris make 2nd team, he had a great season.

Engineer86
November 25th, 2012, 03:59 PM
No Tyler Heinicke??

+10000

malibudude
November 25th, 2012, 04:23 PM
Sorensen the SUU QB needs be on here somewhere.

Walkon79
November 25th, 2012, 04:28 PM
No Jody Owens? BSC Defensive Player of the Year?

BOGUS!


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lionsrking2
November 25th, 2012, 04:56 PM
I'm sure you are referencing to Alford being second-team. I agree. He should be up there for sure. I also think some of the OL selections are baffling.

Rob is a no-brainer for sure, and would also have Zenner on the first team with Maysonet ... no way in hell he's third team ... he's better than Flanders IMO.

smallcollegefbfan
November 25th, 2012, 05:57 PM
Rob is a no-brainer for sure, and would also have Zenner on the first team with Maysonet ... no way in hell he's third team ... he's better than Flanders IMO.

Zenner is really good and I do agree he is better than Flanders. I don't know if he HAS to be first-team but I could see someone putting him there.

As for Flanders, there were rumors he may put in a request for a grade from the NFL Advisory Board and I know some of the scouts who would be giving him his grade. I can tell you right now he would get 7th round and PFA grades, not the 3rd-4th round grades some may expect based on his production.

smallcollegefbfan
November 25th, 2012, 05:58 PM
Sorensen the SUU QB needs be on here somewhere.

I agree. I'm going to sit down and work on my All-America list over the next 3 weeks. They put this out very fast IMO too. I need 2-3 weeks to work on mine to be as accurate as possible.

smallcollegefbfan
November 25th, 2012, 05:59 PM
No Jody Owens? BSC Defensive Player of the Year?

BOGUS!


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That's another big snub! I have not seen much Pioneer League tape yet but I will be surprised if there is a DL in that league who should be 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team with the depth at DT and DE in the MVFC, SoCon, SLC, OVC, Big Sky, and CAA this year.

smallcollegefbfan
November 25th, 2012, 06:01 PM
glad to see Bryant WR Jordan Harris make 2nd team, he had a great season.

I really like Harris. As hard as I am on the NEC the talent is getting better and he's the best NFL prospect in that league yet nobody on here mentions him. I think he has a real shot to get drafted next year.

Walkon79
November 25th, 2012, 06:14 PM
I agree. I'm going to sit down and work on my All-America list over the next 3 weeks. They put this out very fast IMO too. I need 2-3 weeks to work on mine to be as accurate as possible.

Agree with this.

What about Bumpas from Northern Colorado?


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smallcollegefbfan
November 25th, 2012, 06:20 PM
Agree with this.

What about Bumpas from Northern Colorado?


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He got hurt early in the year and I would have put him on the 1st or 2nd team if he had stayed healthy and kept it up, he would have certainly made it. Staying healthy and being consistent is part of having an All-American season so I will leave him off the 1st and 2nd team but he might make 3rd team.

Walkon79
November 25th, 2012, 06:21 PM
I meant to agree with Sorenson from SUU.

Also Minter needs to be on everyone's list at D Tackle. His stats weren't great but he drew a double team EVERY DOWN!

One of the best NFL prospects in the division, IMO


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smallcollegefbfan
November 25th, 2012, 06:38 PM
I meant to agree with Sorenson from SUU.

Also Minter needs to be on everyone's list at D Tackle. His stats weren't great but he drew a double team EVERY DOWN!

One of the best NFL prospects in the division, IMO


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I love Minter. His problem is that he has been hurt some and he is not overly tall. I don't think he gets drafted unless he tests very well and is cleared medically. If that happens, then I could see him going in the 5th round. He's a very good player. I have him just outside of the draft right now.

lionsrking2
November 25th, 2012, 06:41 PM
Zenner is really good and I do agree he is better than Flanders. I don't know if he HAS to be first-team but I could see someone putting him there.

As for Flanders, there were rumors he may put in a request for a grade from the NFL Advisory Board and I know some of the scouts who would be giving him his grade. I can tell you right now he would get 7th round and PFA grades, not the 3rd-4th round grades some may expect based on his production.

I saw Zenner up close and in person ... he's the real deal and essentially SDSU's offense ... they're very ordinary without him. He's bigger and faster than he looks on tape, and has a great feel for how to leverage where the hole will be ... he hits it downhill, at full speed, and can house it on anybody from anywhere on the field ... throw in his production vs quality competition and I don't see how he's not first team.

Flanders is a very good FCS level back, and can make the flashy run, but doesn't have the speed or vision of Zenner and not as physical between the tackles ... plus just about anybody can gain yards in SHSU's offense, with that offensive line.

smallcollegefbfan
November 25th, 2012, 07:09 PM
I saw Zenner up close and in person ... he's the real deal and essentially SDSU's offense ... they're very ordinary without him. He's bigger and faster than he looks on tape, and has a great feel for how to leverage where the hole will be ... he hits it downhill, at full speed, and can house it on anybody from anywhere on the field ... throw in his production vs quality competition and I don't see how he's not first team.

Flanders is a very good FCS level back, and can make the flashy run, but doesn't have the speed or vision of Zenner and not as physical between the tackles ... plus just about anybody can gain yards in SHSU's offense, with that offensive line.

He's good on tape and I do think he is up there. I really love Zach Bauman, Jerodis Williams, Deonte Williams, Flanders is good, and Terrance West is the best RB in FCS as far as the total package of size, power, speed, body type, and skills. If you watch him against LSU I doubt Zenner or anyone else except Maysonet could do what he did. I'm not saying West will be on my first-team but if you get into all the other stuff outside of stats then the best skill sets I have seen from backs this year are Maysonet, Zenner, Bauman, West, and Jerodis Williams. The JMU RB lacks elite speed but he would be up there had he not been hurt all year. I expect a better year from him next year if he can stay healthy.

lionsrking2
November 25th, 2012, 07:20 PM
I'm not saying Zenner is the best NFL prospect, though I do believe if somebody gives him a chance (New England;)), he'll make them happy ... I just think his body of work in relation to what he has around him and who he's doing it against is pretty undeniable. I think you could put him in any offense in the country and he would succeed ... not sure I could say the same about some of the others.



He's good on tape and I do think he is up there. I really love Zach Bauman, Jerodis Williams, Deonte Williams, Flanders is good, and Terrance West is the best RB in FCS as far as the total package of size, power, speed, body type, and skills. If you watch him against LSU I doubt Zenner or anyone else except Maysonet could do what he did. I'm not saying West will be on my first-team but if you get into all the other stuff outside of stats then the best skill sets I have seen from backs this year are Maysonet, Zenner, Bauman, West, and Jerodis Williams. The JMU RB lacks elite speed but he would be up there had he not been hurt all year. I expect a better year from him next year if he can stay healthy.

slostang
November 25th, 2012, 07:27 PM
Have to disagree there. Bauman is so good he will get drafted next year if he stays healthy. He is a very good receiver out of the backfield and doesn't play in a system where the RB is going to have big numbers like Cal Poly does. I do think Williams is up there though and I would put him among the top 10 RBs in FCS for sure.
I have to disagree there.

Bauman had more carries than Williams and had fewer yards and TDs.

Bauman: 225 carries for 1,182 yard (5.3 yds/carry) and 8 TDS.

Williams: 218 carries for 1,458 yards (6.7 yds/carry) and 12 TDs.

steelr7
November 25th, 2012, 07:30 PM
Having seen Shakir Bell & Zach Zenner in person this year...Zenner is good but Shakir Bell is on another level.

ODUMonarch1
November 25th, 2012, 07:31 PM
Whoever put this together either has major axes to grind, or has their head/s waaaaay up their as$/es.

Walkon79
November 25th, 2012, 08:39 PM
I love Minter. His problem is that he has been hurt some and he is not overly tall. I don't think he gets drafted unless he tests very well and is cleared medically. If that happens, then I could see him going in the 5th round. He's a very good player. I have him just outside of the draft right now.

Not tall, but cat quick at 300 lbs. probably the best DL I've seen in these parts since Jared Allen.


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Walkon79
November 25th, 2012, 08:41 PM
He got hurt early in the year and I would have put him on the 1st or 2nd team if he had stayed healthy and kept it up, he would have certainly made it. Staying healthy and being consistent is part of having an All-American season so I will leave him off the 1st and 2nd team but he might make 3rd team.

Didn't realize he was injured as we played UNC early and I didn't keep track after that


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BisonFan02
November 25th, 2012, 08:46 PM
Colton Underwood as defensive POY? He didn't even get it in the MVFC (that would be M Will.)

smallcollegefbfan
November 25th, 2012, 09:34 PM
I have to disagree there.

Bauman had more carries than Williams and had fewer yards and TDs.

Bauman: 225 carries for 1,182 yard (5.3 yds/carry) and 8 TDS.

Williams: 218 carries for 1,458 yards (6.7 yds/carry) and 12 TDs.

It's not just about stats and you have to remember that in your scheme, just like in GSU and Wofford your RBs are going to have good yards and YPC baed on the scheme alone. Deonte is very good but I just don't think he's going to have the NFL career that Bauman could. I do think Williams has to be on an All-American team though and I could argue him ahead of Zenner.

One good thing about this year is that there are a lot of good RBs to create this discussion.

smallcollegefbfan
November 25th, 2012, 09:35 PM
Having seen Shakir Bell & Zach Zenner in person this year...Zenner is good but Shakir Bell is on another level.

Bell is another one. I really like him too. I saw him against Indiana and he was clearly a BCS caliber player.

smallcollegefbfan
November 25th, 2012, 09:36 PM
Didn't realize he was injured as we played UNC early and I didn't keep track after that


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Yes he got hurt around mid-season and missed the rest of the year. Had he played the entire year I believe you could argue he should be on the 1st or 2nd team.

1standgoal
November 26th, 2012, 07:07 AM
Not too familiar with College Sports Madness or the criteria for their selections...but at first glance seems to be off on quite a few selections. Anyone familiar with the criteria for say running backs? Baffles me how the top 5 aren't on at least the 1st through third teams....Zach not first team?

narc
November 26th, 2012, 08:52 AM
This list is a giant steaming coil without Taylor Heinicke listed anywhere, unless this is a massive troll?

Kemo
November 26th, 2012, 11:06 AM
]It's not just about stats and you have to remember that in your scheme, just like in GSU and Wofford your RBs are going to have good yards and YPC baed on the scheme alone.[/B] Deonte is very good but I just don't think he's going to have the NFL career that Bauman could. I do think Williams has to be on an All-American team though and I could argue him ahead of Zenner.
You seem to contradict yourself here.

You say that Williams's stats are inflated because of the scheme he is in (Triple Option), and that is why Bauman is better than him despite lesser stats. Then you go and say you can argue Williams over Zenner for All-American honors?

Zenner doesn't participate in the triple option. He is the only legitimate ball carrier in the backfield 95% of the time and every defense knows he's getting the ball, yet he managed to be only 18 yards short of the FCS rushing lead at the end of the season (and after the playoff game, he is back on top) while playing in the MVFC, who has some of the best defenses the FCS has to offer.

chattownmocs
November 26th, 2012, 12:59 PM
Faysaal Shafaat is a good player, but it is hard to imagine that he could be an All-American if SOCON Defensive player of the year Davis Tull is not.

coover
November 26th, 2012, 01:08 PM
My initial reaction is that Robert Alford got snubbed big time. He has to be 1st team IMO. Alford, Webb, and Williams are the 3 best CBs in the nation for sure. Then I think McCray, Swanson, and Godbolt are right there after them.

I think the Tenn State TE was snubbed as well. I'm not a huge fan of Peiffer. I don't think he has a future at the next level at all while many of the others are at least good enough to get a shot. I would also put Colin Anderson ahead of the UTC TE. I don't think Anderson is going to make a 53-man roster in the NFL but he is good enough that he will get a shot and was a good receiver for Furman the last two years.

For FOY I would go with Sean Price for sure but Jeff Williams is a stud. I think Williams should have been 2nd team All-CAA and should have an All-American season next year. He is big, can run, and a good tackler. Impressed me big time in their games.

Montori Hughes is a big snub at DT. He's the best NT in the nation while Brent Russell and Nicholas Williams should have gotten love IMO.

There were a lot of questionable picks on the OL IMO.

What do you guys think?



http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/5490

Coach of the Year Freshman of the Year
Craig Bohl, North Dakota State Jeff Williams, Delaware
Offensive Player of the Year Defensive Player of the Year
DeNarius McGhee, Montana State Colton Underwood, Illinois State

First Team
Offense Defense
QB DeNarius McGhee, Montana State DL Caleb Schreibeis, Montana State
RB Eric Breitenstein, Wofford DL Brandon Thurmond, Arkansas-Pine Bluff
RB Miguel Maysonet, Stony Brook DL Colton Underwood, Illinois State
WR Erik Lora, Eastern Illinois DL Lebrandon Richardson, Bethune-Cookman
WR Brandon Kaufman, Eastern Washington LB Blake Peiffer, Southeast Mo State
WR Aaron Mellette, Elon LB Ian Sluss, Portland State
TE Kyle Juszczyk, Harvard LB Jeremy Kimbrough, Appalachian State
OL Mike Vuono, Lehigh LB Stephon Robertson, James Madison
OL Mike Sellers, Citadel DB Darnell Taylor, Sam Houston State
OL Earl Watford, James Madison DB Jaquiski Tartt, Samford
OL Chris Howley, Maine DB Cooper Taylor, Richmond
OL Patrick Ford, Eastern Kentucky DB Marcus Williams, North Dakota State
K Colton Cook, Southern Utah P Andy Wilder, Northern Arizona
KR Jerodis Williams, Furman PR Dominic Gunn, Northern Colorado

Second Team
Offense Defense
QB Jamal Jackson, Appalachian State DL Jerry Ceja, Eastern Washington
RB Tim Flanders, Sam Houston State DL Zach Hodges, Harvard
RB Zach Bauman, Northern Arizona DL Joseph Lebeau, Jackson State
WR Nick Mayers, Old Dominion DL Cole Jirik, North Dakota State
WR Cordell Roberson, Stephen F. Austin LB Robert McCabe, Georgetown
WR Jordan Harris, Bryant LB Matt Evans, New Hampshire
TE MyCole Pruitt, Southern Illinois LB Monte Gaddis, Towson
OL Aaron Adams, Eastern Kentucky LB Jordan Tripp, Montana
OL Tytan Timoteo, Weber State DB Nico Molino, Cal Poly
OL Kadeem Williams, Albany DB Demetrius McCray, Appalachian State
OL Jack Lowney, Old Dominion DB Eric Loper, Villanova
OL Jack Templeton, Brown DB Robert Alford, Southeastern Louisiana
K Patrick Murray, Fordham P Chad Zinchini, Tennessee Tech
KR Otis Wright, Wagner PR Austin Shanks, Northern Arizona

Third Team
Offense Defense
QB Casey Brockman, Murray State DL Dion Dubose, Georgia Southern
RB Zach Zenner, South Dakota State DL Jeremy Stephens, Butler
RB Terrance West, Towson DL Cody Larson, Southern Utah
WR Quentin Sims, Tennessee-Martin DL Ryan Nearhoof, Robert Morris
WR Walter Powell, Murray State LB Jayson DiManche, Southern Illinois
WR Rico Richardson, Jackson State LB Wes Dothard, Chattanooga
TE Faysal Shafaat, Chattanooga LB Tanner Burch, Gardner-Webb
OL Mark Pratt, Youngstown State LB Todd Davis, Sacramento State
OL Jamie Dunaway, Gardner-Webb DB Johnny Towalid, Indiana State
OL Dorian Byrd, Georgia Southern DB Blake Wylie, Wofford
OL Billy Turner, North Dakota State DB Lucky Dozier, Northern Arizona
OL Cory Howard, Central Arkansas DB Ben Ericksen, Illinois State
K Jimmy Pavel, Eastern Washington P Matt Hubbard, Georgia State
KR Greg Hardin, North Dakota PR Walter Powell, Murray StateI think your formatting stinks. The above is almost impossible to read!

coover
November 26th, 2012, 01:10 PM
Deonte Williams > Zach Bauman Saw both in Flagstaff ... Williams for sure!