Playoff Prediction Final Edition

[Go Apps]

Current overall and conference records are in parentheses.. The rank below is based on being in the playoffs,. D11 wins are excluded as are FBS losses - that is reflected in the record to your right important in determination of at large and seeding.

Automatic Bids:
Patriot: Colgate CAA: Villanova
Big Sky: Mont State Southland: C. Arkansas
Southern: GSU MVC: NDSU
MEAC: Bethune OVC: Eastern Illinois
Big South: Coastal Carolina NEC: Wagner

Auto Qualifiers

Villanova (8-3, 6-2 CAA) Record 8-2


Bethune Cookman (8-2, 6-0 MEAC) Record 8-1

Ga Southern (8-2, 6-2 Southern) Record 8-2

Eastern Washington (9-2, 6-2 Big Sky) Record 9-2

Coastal Carolina (6-4, 4-1 Big South) Record 6-3

Central Arkansas (9-2, 6-1 Southland) Record 8-1

Eastern Illinois (7-4, 6-1 OVC) Record 7-3

Colgate (8-3, 6-0 Patriot) Record 8-3

Wagner (8-3, 6-1 Northeast) Record 8-2

North Dakota State (10-1, 6-1 MVC) Record 10-1


At Large Qualifiers (IN)
-Appalachian State (8-3, 6-2 Southern) Record 8-2

-Old Dominion (9-1, 6-1 CAA) Record 9-1

- South Dakota State (8-3, 6-2 MVC) Record 8-2

- Illinois State (8-3, 6-3 MVC) Record 8-3

-Montana State (10-1, 7-1 Big Sky) Record 9-1

-Cal Poly (9-2, 7-2 Big Sky) Record 9-2


Praying Hard Tonight
-Sam Houston State (8-3, 6-1 Southland) Record 7-1

-Wofford (8-3, 6-2 Southern) Record 7-2

-New Hampshire (8-3, 6-2 CAA) – Record 8-2

-Eastern Kentucky (8-3, 6-2 OVC) Record 8-2

-Richmond (8-3, 6-2 CAA) Record 8-2

-Lehigh (10-1, 4-1 Patriot) Record 10-1


FOR SURE NOT THIS YEAR

-Northern Arizona (8-3, 6-2 Big Sky) Record 7-2

-Stoney Brook (9-2, 5-1 Big South) Record 8-1

-UT Martin (8-3, 6-1 OVC) Record 8-2

-Towson (7-4, 6-2 CAA) Record 7-2


Below are my projections for the I-AA playoff field.

At-large: ASU , Illinois State, Sam Houston State, N Hampshire, ODU, EKU, Mont State, South Dakota State, Wofford, Cal Poly

Seeds: ASU, Mont St, NDSU, ODU, E Washington
Last In: Illinois State, EKU
Last Out: Richmond, Lehigh, Stoney Brook


Bracket I:
Wagner @ Villanova winner at No. 1 NDSU
Illinois State @ E. Illinois

Coastal Carolina @ Wofford winner at No. 4 ASU
C Arkansas @ No. 5 E Washington

Bracket II:
N Hampshire @ Colgate winner at No. 3 ODU
Bethune Cookman @ GSU

EKU @ South Dakota State winner at No. 2 Mont State
Cal Poly @ Sam Houston State

[furpal87]

Thought ODU was ineligible..

[Engineer86]

Nova is CAA AQ

[FargoBison]

Thought ODU was ineligible..

Just for the CAA autobid.

[Engineer86]

Thought ODU was ineligible..

Just for the conference championship and AQ, they are in as at large

[Bam]

I like it.

[Go Apps]

Nova is CAA AQ

If JUM loses and they are Towson wins it

[furpal87]

That's weird

[FargoBison]

Nova is CAA AQ

Yep, should be interesting to see how he changes things.

[Engineer86]

Nova is CAA AQ

That likely changes things, since you did not have them in.

[eaglewraith]

App State #4 seed with one quality win?

Uhhhh

[Go Apps]

JMU lost all the games that matter have been completed Xmas Morning awaits 20 teams tomorrow

[MTfan4life]

If JUM loses and they are Towson wins it

False. Villanova holds the tiebreaker over Towson, UNH, and UR for their win over ODU.

[Bisonoline]

Just for the conference championship and AQ, they are in as at large

Why?

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

I think UNH might be in a little more trouble than some think. The committee might not be too enamored with them giving up 60+ points in their two losses.

[FargoBison]

If JUM loses and they are Towson wins it

NOVA is the CAA AQ.


ODU ineligible at 7-1, UNH, TOW, UR, NOVA all 6-2 -- All tied teams have not faced each other; highest common opponent…versus ODU (7-1): UNH 0-1, UR 0-1, TOW 0-1, NOVA 1-0 --- NOVA is autobid

[Engineer86]

Why?

CAA decided they are not eligible due to moving up to Conf USA, and the CAA determines who represents them as the AQ

[Go Apps]

App State #4 seed with one quality win?

Uhhhh

3 teams lost in front of them today and they have the head to head over GSU and the Socon was tough this year

[FargoBison]

Why?

They are leaving the CAA for CUSA next year.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

If there is a second seed from the Big Sky it will be Cal Poly.

Montana State has a sub-DI win, and they lost to the only top 4 Big Sky team that they played. They should not be seeded. And they should definitely not be seeded under EWU considering they lost to them.

Also, I'm going to say that if there is a seed from the Socon it will be GSU and not App. State. We won the tiebreaker and we finished higher in the rankings.

[Engineer86]

False. Villanova holds the tiebreaker over Towson, UNH, and UR for their win over ODU.

+1

[bostonspider]

No if JMU loses, Villanova wins the autobid. Then co-champs will be Towson, UNH, Richmond and Villanova. Nova will be autobid representative because of that group only they beat ODU. I think UR gets in over either Illinois State or Eastern Kentucky.

[WrenFGun]

I think UNH might be in a little more trouble than some think. The committee might not be too enamored with them giving up 60+ points in their two losses.

I think most think they're in trouble. Resume isn't very impressive. Nice win over Richmond might be enough when looking at a comparison with Richmond, but who knows. Depends on whether the committee draws a hard line in the sand at 8 DI wins in the CAA.

[Go Apps]

That likely changes things, since you did not have them in.

Fixed

[MTfan4life]

3 teams lost in front of them today and they have the head to head over GSU and the Socon was tough this year

Not too many seeded teams have two home double digit losses on their resume. xcoffeex

[Go Apps]

We beat you head to head and played a better schedule

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Top 5 seeds IMO:

#1 NSDU
#2 Old Dominion
#3 Montana State
#4 Eastern Washington
#5 Georgia Southern

[timmcd_123]

Here's a list I've been making...
FCS Playoff Scenario
– auto-bid 10 teams already in –
1. Wagner - NEC
2. North Dakota State - MVFC
3. Colgate - Patriot
4. Coastal Carolina – Big South
5. Central Arkansas - Southland
6. Bethune-Cookman - MEAC
7. Georgia Southern - Southern
8. Eastern Illinois – OVC
9. Eastern Washington – Big Sky
10. Villanova - CAA
10 possible at-large spots for field of 20 teams
CAA - ODU (10-1), Towson (7-4), UNH (8-3), Richmond (8-3)
Big Sky – Montana State (10-1), Cal Poly (9-2)
Missouri Valley – Illinois State (8-3), South Dakota State (8-3)
Patriot – Lehigh (10-1)
Southern – Appalachian State (8-3), Wofford (8-3)
Big South – Stony Brook (9-2)
Southland – Sam Houston State (8-3)

Obviously no particular order, just a possible list...

[wr70beh]

No if JMU loses, Villanova wins the autobid. Then co-champs will be Towson, UNH, Richmond and Villanova. Nova will be autobid representative because of that group only they beat ODU. I think UR gets in over either Illinois State or Eastern Kentucky.

UR is in. I don't know what this fool(the OP) is talking about. The CAA is the SEC of FCS, and he's talking about adding an OVC team (the Sun Belt of the FCS) over the mighty CAA? Give me a break.

[Go Apps]

UR is in. I don't know what this fool(the OP) is talking about. The CAA is the SEC of FCS, and he's talking about adding an OVC team (the Sun Belt of the FCS) over the mighty CAA? Give me a break.
Not this year

[ITmonarch10]

UR is in. I don't know what this fool(the OP) is talking about. The CAA is the SEC of FCS, and he's talking about adding an OVC team (the Sun Belt of the FCS) over the mighty CAA? Give me a break.
The CAA is down in the computers and A couple conferences have some FBS wins.

[WrenFGun]

UR is in. I don't know what this fool(the OP) is talking about. The CAA is the SEC of FCS, and he's talking about adding an OVC team (the Sun Belt of the FCS) over the mighty CAA? Give me a break.

There are three at-large candidates from the CAA on the bubble. All 3 won't get in. UR has lost the H2H with UNH, and UNH lost the H2H to Towson. Towson has 7 DI wins. Who knows.

[ITmonarch10]

Here's a list I've been making...
FCS Playoff Scenario
– auto-bid 10 teams already in –
1. Wagner - NEC
2. North Dakota State - MVFC
3. Colgate - Patriot
4. Coastal Carolina – Big South
5. Central Arkansas - Southland
6. Bethune-Cookman - MEAC
7. Georgia Southern - Southern
8. Eastern Illinois – OVC
9. Eastern Washington – Big Sky
10. Villanova - CAA
10 possible at-large spots for field of 20 teams
CAA - ODU (10-1), Towson (7-4), UNH (8-3), Richmond (8-3)
Big Sky – Montana State (10-1), Cal Poly (9-2)
Missouri Valley – Illinois State (8-3), South Dakota State (8-3)
Patriot – Lehigh (10-1)
Southern – Appalachian State (8-3), Wofford (8-3)
Big South – Stony Brook (9-2)
Southland – Sam Houston State (8-3)
OVC - Eastern Kentucky (8-3), Tennessee - Martin (8-3)
Obviously no particular order, just a possible list...

You forgot the OVC. The committee loves EKY due to their past accomplishments. Not to single out EKU, but I think NDSU, EWU, YSU, Montana, App, GSU, and Southern CAA would get extra consideration for the last spot regardless of what the polls or computers say.

[LehighGuy]

There are three at-large candidates from the CAA on the bubble. All 3 won't get in. UR has lost the H2H with UNH, and UNH lost the H2H to Towson. Towson has 7 DI wins. Who knows.

Don't be surprised if they're all left out.

[timmcd_123]

True, thanks....just thought with the strength of everyone else, the OVC will only get one team. Who knows.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

If there is a second seed from the Big Sky it will be Cal Poly.

Montana State has a sub-DI win, and they lost to the only top 4 Big Sky team that they played. They should not be seeded. And they should definitely not be seeded under EWU considering they lost to them.

Also, I'm going to say that if there is a seed from the Socon it will be GSU and not App. State. We won the tiebreaker and we finished higher in the rankings.

This.

[Red & Black]

NAU is probably still in the discussion at 8-3, but definitely on the bubble. I'd have to check and see if all 8 of their wins were Division I, though.


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[Go Lehigh TU owl]

NAU is probably still in the discussion at 8-3, but definitely on the bubble. I'd have to check and see if all 8 of their wins were Division I, though.


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NAU has zero shot. 7 D1 wins and lost their last two at HOME. One was to a 5-6 SUU team. They're not even in the discussion. People are thinking there's way more teams vying for spots than there really is imo.

[Red & Black]

Yep, just checked, they had a 69-0 win over a Division II, so only 7-3 in the eyes of the committe.

So only three from the Big Sky.

[atlfcsfan]

Not this year

I tend to agree with the Richmond guy, I cant see an 8-3 Richmond team being left out. I think they are as secure as App is. True, they dont have the 3 peat and the attendance that App has, but they are a recent national champion too. But someone will get left out of the CAA, I think New Hampshire for sure wont make it and Towson probably wont either.

The at large as I see them:

So-Con (2)- App St., Wofford
MVC (2) - Ill State, SD State
Big Sky (2) - E Washington, Cal Poly ( assuming Montana St is the auto bid)
CAA (2) - Old Dominion, Richmond
Southland - Sam Houston St.

That leaves 1 spot.

Lehigh, Stony Brook, Towson??? Take your pick. slight edge to Lehigh for its 10 wins though.

[WrenFGun]

I tend to agree with the Richmond guy, I cant see an 8-3 Richmond team being left out. I think they are as secure as App is. True, they dont have the 3 peat and the attendance that App has, but they are a recent national champion too. But someone will get left out of the CAA, I think New Hampshire for sure wont make it and Towson probably wont either.

The at large as I see them

So-Con (2)- App St., Wofford
MVC (2) - Ill State, SD State
Big Sky (2) - E Washington, Cal Poly ( assuming Montana St is the auto bid)
CAA (2) - Old Dominion, Richmond
Southland - Sam Houston St.

That leaves 1 spot.

Lehigh, Stony Brook, Towson??? Take your pick. slight edge to Lehigh for its 10 wins though.

If you're just comparing UR and UNH, UNH gets the nod. They beat Richmond..

[eaglewraith]

We beat you head to head and played a better schedule

Ignoring FBS losses for each team, you have a 24 point loss and a 10 point loss at home. We have a 2 point loss on the road and a 3 point loss at home.

Better schedule? Minimally. You played Coastal, Montana, and ECU. Montan has a losing season this year so that can't be considered a quality win. Coastal was a decent win. Your FBS team doesn't compare to ours. We destroyed both of our other OOC opponents like we were supposed to.

Honestly, the OOC schedule is a wash and we both have a win over a ranked team in the conference. You have much worse losses in conference though.

[Red & Black]

I tend to agree with the Richmond guy, I cant see an 8-3 Richmond team being left out. I think they are as secure as App is. True, they dont have the 3 peat and the attendance that App has, but they are a recent national champion too. But someone will get left out of the CAA, I think New Hampshire for sure wont make it and Towson probably wont either.

The at large as I see them:

So-Con (2)- App St., Wofford
MVC (2) - Ill State, SD State
Big Sky (2) - E Washington, Cal Poly ( assuming Montana St is the auto bid)
CAA (2) - Old Dominion, Richmond
Southland - Sam Houston St.

That leaves 1 spot.

Lehigh, Stony Brook, Towson??? Take your pick. slight edge to Lehigh for its 10 wins though.

EWU is the AB from the Big Sky. And with 9 Division I wins a piece, there's zero chance the Big Sky will not have three teams in the playoffs.


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[Walkon79]

If there is a second seed from the Big Sky it will be Cal Poly.

Montana State has a sub-DI win, and they lost to the only top 4 Big Sky team that they played. They should not be seeded. And they should definitely not be seeded under EWU considering they lost to them.

Also, I'm going to say that if there is a seed from the Socon it will be GSU and not App. State. We won the tiebreaker and we finished higher in the rankings.

This is crap! Who has CP beaten. Besides, you think you can go into WaGriz and win like that?


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[Walkon79]

Top 5 seeds IMO:

#1 NSDU
#2 Old Dominion
#3 Montana State
#4 Eastern Washington
#5 Georgia Southern

I'm cool with this.


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[BigHouseClosedEnd]

Why does everyone think a 7 win Wofford team is so safe?

[Tealblood]

Not that it matters a bunch but Coastal has a 7-4 record with a loss to an FBS and no non-div. I wins

[WrenFGun]

Why does everyone think a 7 win Wofford team is so safe?

I think SHSU and Wofford have to be a little concerned, but ESPECIALLY Wofford. 1-2 in their last 3 and 7 DI wins.

[Red & Black]

This is crap! Who has CP beaten. Besides, you think you can go into WaGriz and win like that?


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It's not crap, and the same could be said of MSU. Who have you beaten? The only top Big Sky team MSU played, they lost to.

Also, a win in Wa-Griz doesn't mean much this season...NAU, SUU, etc.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

I think SHSU and Wofford have to be a little concerned, but ESPECIALLY Wofford. 1-2 in their last 3 and 7 DI wins.

I think Wofford is in pretty big trouble too.

[BigHouseClosedEnd]

I think SHSU and Wofford have to be a little concerned, but ESPECIALLY Wofford. 1-2 in their last 3 and 7 DI wins.

I haven't analyzed the SHSU resume but I don't understand why people think Wofford is ahead of Richmond or UNH.

If the Committee takes the teams with 8 D1 wins, it may not be as tough a decision as some think.

[LouiseBFree]

What's I-AA?


Current overall and conference records are in parentheses.. The rank below is based on being in the playoffs,. D11 wins are excluded as are FBS losses - that is reflected in the record to your right important in determination of at large and seeding.

Automatic Bids:
Patriot: Colgate CAA: Villanova
Big Sky: Mont State Southland: C. Arkansas
Southern: GSU MVC: NDSU
MEAC: Bethune OVC: Eastern Illinois
Big South: Coastal Carolina NEC: Wagner

Auto Qualifiers

Villanova (8-3, 6-2 CAA) Record 8-2


Bethune Cookman (8-2, 6-0 MEAC) Record 8-1

Ga Southern (8-2, 6-2 Southern) Record 8-2

Eastern Washington (9-2, 6-2 Big Sky) Record 9-2

Coastal Carolina (6-4, 4-1 Big South) Record 6-3

Central Arkansas (9-2, 6-1 Southland) Record 8-1

Eastern Illinois (7-4, 6-1 OVC) Record 7-3

Colgate (8-3, 6-0 Patriot) Record 8-3

Wagner (8-3, 6-1 Northeast) Record 8-2

North Dakota State (10-1, 6-1 MVC) Record 10-1


At Large Qualifiers (IN)
-Appalachian State (8-3, 6-2 Southern) Record 8-2

-Old Dominion (9-1, 6-1 CAA) Record 9-1

- South Dakota State (8-3, 6-2 MVC) Record 8-2

- Illinois State (8-3, 6-3 MVC) Record 8-3

-Montana State (10-1, 7-1 Big Sky) Record 9-1

-Cal Poly (9-2, 7-2 Big Sky) Record 9-2


Praying Hard Tonight
-Sam Houston State (8-3, 6-1 Southland) Record 7-1

-Wofford (8-3, 6-2 Southern) Record 7-2

-New Hampshire (8-3, 6-2 CAA) – Record 8-2

-Eastern Kentucky (8-3, 6-2 OVC) Record 8-2

-Richmond (8-3, 6-2 CAA) Record 8-2

-Lehigh (10-1, 4-1 Patriot) Record 10-1


FOR SURE NOT THIS YEAR

-Northern Arizona (8-3, 6-2 Big Sky) Record 7-2

-Stoney Brook (9-2, 5-1 Big South) Record 8-1

-UT Martin (8-3, 6-1 OVC) Record 8-2

-Towson (7-4, 6-2 CAA) Record 7-2


Below are my projections for the I-AA playoff field.

At-large: ASU , Illinois State, Sam Houston State, N Hampshire, ODU, EKU, Mont State, South Dakota State, Wofford, Cal Poly

Seeds: ASU, Mont St, NDSU, ODU, E Washington
Last In: Illinois State, EKU
Last Out: Richmond, Lehigh, Stoney Brook


Bracket I:
Wagner @ Villanova winner at No. 1 NDSU
Illinois State @ E. Illinois

Coastal Carolina @ Wofford winner at No. 4 ASU
C Arkansas @ No. 5 E Washington

Bracket II:
N Hampshire @ Colgate winner at No. 3 ODU
Bethune Cookman @ GSU

EKU @ South Dakota State winner at No. 2 Mont State
Cal Poly @ Sam Houston State

[Reign of Terrier]

Wofford is in before UNA, Stony Brook, Lehigh, EKU,and UTM. That's all we need to get. Please stop fabricating a controversy. Wofford is FINE. Only one of the aforementioned teams is a conference champ, and wofford played a far better schedule.

[Reign of Terrier]

I haven't analyzed the SHSU resume but I don't understand why people think Wofford is ahead of Richmond or UNH.

If the Committee takes the teams with 8 D1 wins, it may not be as tough a decision as some think.

That's not how it works. Lack of D1 wins only accounts for teams with 6. The rule isn't a "who has more" deal or else the PL would have multiple in every year. SOS is a factor as well as the politics of not putting in 4 teams from one conference before 3from another. Especially when they have similar resumes.

[Bisonwinagn]

Wofford is in before UNA, Stony Brook, Lehigh, EKU,and UTM. That's all we need to get. Please stop fabricating a controversy. Wofford is FINE. Only one of the aforementioned teams is a conference champ, and wofford played a far better schedule.

UNA could be the last team in due to their FBS win, but would they get in over Lehigh.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

UNA could be the last team in due to their FBS win, but would they get in over Lehigh.

NAU has zero shot, not a chance. They are not even in the discussion.

[GoGuinsGo]

--It's been a crazy year for YSU but finish 7-4 in the best conference in the FCS according to GPI
--(3 losses to NDSU, SDSU, Illinois State all on the road).
--Have a 14 point FBS win at Pitt.
--Another solid non-conference win vs Albany(9-2)
-- Horrible October but finish on 3 game winning streak
--Handled Indiana State 27-6 to finish the season..Sycamores came in as the 2nd ranked defense in the nation giving up 13ppg and handed NDSU their only loss of the year.

-- The bad loss is Southern Illinois at home but still the Salukis finish 6-5. Not horrible. Honestly, I look at YSU's year and it tells me why the MVFC is the best conference in the FCS.

Just a lot of teams in the mix this year! A lot more 8 win teams than last season!

[Cincy App]

As always, it has been an interesting last day of the season. I thought UNH would be a lock at the beginning of the day but believe they are out now.

My field has Wofford as the 19th team in the field. I think the last pick comes down to EKU, Lehigh, and Stony Brook. The OVC has been the best conference of the 3 this year so I'm predicting that EKU wins the last spot.

I think the 5th seed is also up for grabs. It should come down to Sam Houston St, GSU and ASU. While ASU has the best wins of this group (including out of conference), I think GSU has been more impressive throughout the year and thus, predict they will nose out SHSU and ASU for the final seed. SHSU has been solid in its victories but has no quality wins. The 5th seed actually means little for ASU unless it allows for a better bracket. It does not guarantee any additional home games.

In the wild and crazy CAA, Villanova has won the auto bid. ODU has the best resume while I believe Richmond had the best overall season outside of ODU in the conference. UNH was only 1-2 in games against the top teams in the CAA while giving up over 60 points in both losses. Towson had 4 losses which unfortunately will be counted against them. If you consider Towson, then you have to bring Youngstown St into play which I don't think will happen.

Thus, here is my projected bracket:

Colgate at E. Illinois winner at #1 North Dakota St
Cal Poly at South Dakota St

Wagner at Villanova winner at #4 E. Washington
Central Arkansas at #5 Georgia Southern

Bethune Cookman at Coastal Carolina winner at #2 Montana St
Illinois St at Sam Houston St

E. Kentucky at Wofford winner at #3 Old Dominion
Richmond at Appalachian St

[WrenFGun]

As always, it has been an interesting last day of the season. I thought UNH would be a lock at the beginning of the day but believe they are out now.

My field has Wofford as the 19th team in the field. I think the last pick comes down to EKU, Lehigh, and Stony Brook. The OVC has been the best conference of the 3 this year so I'm predicting that EKU wins the last spot.

I think the 5th seed is also up for grabs. It should come down to Sam Houston St, GSU and ASU. While ASU has the best wins of this group (including out of conference), I think GSU has been more impressive throughout the year and thus, predict they will nose out SHSU and ASU for the final seed. SHSU has been solid in its victories but has no quality wins. The 5th seed actually means little for ASU unless it allows for a better bracket. It does not guarantee any additional home games.

In the wild and crazy CAA, Villanova has won the auto bid. ODU has the best resume while I believe Richmond had the best overall season outside of ODU in the conference. UNH was only 1-2 in games against the top teams in the CAA while giving up over 60 points in both losses. Towson had 4 losses which unfortunately will be counted against them. If you consider Towson, then you have to bring Youngstown St into play which I don't think will happen.

Thus, here is my projected bracket:

Colgate at E. Illinois winner at #1 North Dakota St
Cal Poly at South Dakota St

Wagner at Villanova winner at #4 E. Washington
Central Arkansas at #5 Georgia Southern

Bethune Cookman at Coastal Carolina winner at #2 Montana St
Illinois St at Sam Houston St

E. Kentucky at Wofford winner at #3 Old Dominion
Richmond at Appalachian St

Again, I'm just not sure I understand why Richmond, who LOST the H2H with UNH, would ge in over UNH. I don't understand how EKU, who has no win near as good as Richmond or Villanova, would get in over either.

[BigHouseClosedEnd]

I don't see EKU getting in the bracket either.

[Bisonwinagn]

Again, I'm just not sure I understand why Richmond, who LOST the H2H with UNH, would ge in over UNH. I don't understand how EKU, who has no win near as good as Richmond or Villanova, would get in over either.

My thought is the committee will take the easy way out and only select ODU from the CAA.

[CatfishKhan]

If you're just comparing UR and UNH, UNH gets the nod. They beat Richmond..

I think that would only be the case if the committee decided to ignore 10 of the 11 games each team played and just focused on the one game where the home team won by 4 points.

[robsnotes4u]

If there is a second seed from the Big Sky it will be Cal Poly.

Montana State has a sub-DI win, and they lost to the only top 4 Big Sky team that they played. They should not be seeded. And they should definitely not be seeded under EWU considering they lost to them.

Also, I'm going to say that if there is a seed from the Socon it will be GSU and not App. State. We won the tiebreaker and we finished higher in the rankings.

You can't be serious. Cal Poly a seed? Did you pat attention to EWU season, and the last game today against PSU. MSU just crushed them last week and EWU was lucky to win. EWU could have easily been a .500 team, look at all the one possession wins.

[bostonspider]

The reason UR might be in over UNH is that they have wins over VU and JMU while UNH's only good CAA win is over UR.

[Mattymc727]

The whole Towson, UNH, and Richmond debacle makes my head spin. I understand that there is more to it then head to head comparisons, but its mind boggling to me to put team A in over team B when team B beat team A, the evidence is on the field, not a computer. So if its down to those three for a spot, have to go with Towson.

So if the CAA gets 3 teams, I would have ODU, Nova, and Towson

[Catbooster]

If there is a second seed from the Big Sky it will be Cal Poly.

Montana State has a sub-DI win, and they lost to the only top 4 Big Sky team that they played. They should not be seeded. And they should definitely not be seeded under EWU considering they lost to them.

Also, I'm going to say that if there is a seed from the Socon it will be GSU and not App. State. We won the tiebreaker and we finished higher in the rankings.

I've been thinking EWU would be seeded above us, based on the head to head, just like we were seeded above them in 2010 due to the head to head. But since that loss the Cats have been playing much better ball than they were before the loss (probably should thank EWU for that). I now think we have a very good chance of being seeded higher than EWU. I think the committee puts more weight on how you finish the season than how you started. The best example is PSU. EWU struggled to beat PSU today, who we dominated last week. If I'm not mistaken, PSU is the Big Sky rep on the committee. That can't hurt our chances.

Also, in 2010 we beat EWU by a decent margin but this year they beat us by 3 in a game that could have gone either way.

I won't be shocked either way.

[Reign of Terrier]

My predictions (I'm not discussing seeding, that's to be done after the field is set).

In for sure:

3 from the CAA (ODU, and 2 of the co-champs)
3 from the MVC (NDSU, SDSU, Illinois State)
3 from the Big Sky(EWU, MSU, Cal Poly)
2 from the southland (UCA, SHSU)
2 from the Socon (App, GSU)
1 from the MEAC (BC)
1 from the Big South(CCU)
1 from the NEC (Wagner)
1 from the OVC (Eastern Illinois)
1 from the Patriot (Colgate)

Now, the rest of the candidates for the remaining 2 spots.....
Stony Brook (9-2)
Miscellanious CAA team (8-3)
Wofford (8-3)
EKU (8-3)
UTM (8-3)
Lehigh (10-1)

Now, of the above teams I think we can take UTM off of the list as they lost to EKU. Both EKU and UTM have really unimpressive schedules in general. I think Wofford and the CAA team have more impressive schedules by virtue of finishing higher in a harder conference and by being conference champions of those conference. The OVC never produces anything in the playoffs and IMO it would be a travesty if either one of these teams leapfrogged Wofford or the CAA team. I highly doubt both would get in over Wofford as 3OVC teams and 2 Socon teams just doesn't look right.

From there, that leaves Lehigh, Stony Brook, Wofford, and Misc CAA. Even though Lehigh has 10 wins, they didn't win their conference and their conference is substantially weaker than the CAA and Socon. When has the Patriot gotten more than 1 team in? If so, was it in a field as hard as this? I think not. Mark Lehigh off of the list, it's just not happening.

And then, there's Stony Brook. They're a good team, and have had no problems on the schedule minus a substantial blemish against Liberty. It will cost them. Granted, they beat Army...but Army is not that good at 2-9. They play a really soft schedule, but I have a hard time thinking one of the top 4 CAA teams or Wofford couldn't finish 9-2 or better with the schedule they have.

In short, the Patriot, Big South, OVC, NEC, and MEAC are not 2 bid leagues.

Everyone wants to crack on Wofford for only winning 7 division 1 games, but the fact of the matter is that everyone decided to make that a big deal this year out of nowhere. We've made the playoffs with just as many wins in the past, when the field was even more narrow (2007, 2011) and it was a no-brainer we'd be in the playoffs. This year we have a better resume than last year with a conference championship under our belt. Everyone needs to stop freaking out about us not having as many division one wins as other teams, because that's really a non-factor as long as one is over 7. If the number of division one wins was the deciding factor, Lehigh would be locked up as a bid right now. I will say right now, Wofford has a schedule of similar or harder difficulty than most of the field. No one seems to mention that UNH and Richmond played only 4 teams (or less) with winning records, whereas Wofford played 6 (all in the latter half of the season).

The TL;DR of this is that Wofford is in you guys, I don't understand why it's a big controversy.

[UNH Fanboi]

Not too many seeded teams have two home double digit losses on their resume. xcoffeex

ASU getting a seed would be a travesty.

[Reign of Terrier]

The only league that has a shot at getting 4 teams in is the CAA. Even then, I wouldn't be surprised if the didn't.

MVC, Big Sky, CAA are locks at 3
Socon and southland locks at 2

that basically leaves 2 spots open.

[Grabholdofyosef]

Ignoring FBS losses for each team, you have a 24 point loss and a 10 point loss at home. We have a 2 point loss on the road and a 3 point loss at home.

Better schedule? Minimally. You played Coastal, Montana, and ECU. Montan has a losing season this year so that can't be considered a quality win. Coastal was a decent win. Your FBS team doesn't compare to ours. We destroyed both of our other OOC opponents like we were supposed to.

Honestly, the OOC schedule is a wash and we both have a win over a ranked team in the conference. You have much worse losses in conference though.

Coastal (40 GPI) and Montana (37) are far better wins than Jacksonville (86) and Howard (80). ASU was down by 1 to ECU late in the 3rd. GSU was down by 31 to UGA late in the 3rd. Both lost to Citadel (ASU blown out and GSU close). The only different win was ASU over GSU (5) and GSU over Wofford (14). ASU has the better win there. H to H goes to ASU as well. I believe GSU may be a better team but I believe ASU has a better resume.

[GSU Eagle]

I think App and GSU are about equal in the committee's eyes.

[theirish]

The only league that has a shot at getting 4 teams in is the CAA. Even then, I wouldn't be surprised if the didn't.

MVC, Big Sky, CAA are locks at 3
Socon and southland locks at 2

that basically leaves 2 spots open.
Seems like the consensus is the MVFC is the top conference this year, but they should not get four teams in the playoffs this year. That fourth being YSU.

If it comes down to the 7-4 in the better conference, it may be YSU over Towson. In the end I think each miss out, although each could do some damage the way they have been playing.

[Reign of Terrier]

YSU isn't in consideration because they finished 5th in their conference

[theirish]

YSU isn't in consideration because they finished 5th in their conference
Didn't realize there is some unwritten rule the FCS committee considers that IF you are not top four in your conference you can't make the playoffs.

YSU may not make it, but with YSU AD on the committee, I am sure they will be a hot topic at the table when he is out of the room.

[World]

I think Wofford is in pretty big trouble too.

fully agree

[World]

Wofford is in before UNA, Stony Brook, Lehigh, EKU,and UTM. That's all we need to get. Please stop fabricating a controversy. Wofford is FINE. Only one of the aforementioned teams is a conference champ, and wofford played a far better schedule.

Unfortunately no 7 win teams will make the playoffs

Wofford is out

[ngineer]

I think Wofford is in pretty big trouble too.

One would think so. However, if the Committee can be impressed with "good" losses, today's at South Carolina was interesting. Tied going into fourth quarter and had significant more yards. Turnovers hurt.

[World]

My predictions (I'm not discussing seeding, that's to be done after the field is set).

In for sure:

3 from the CAA (ODU, and 2 of the co-champs)
3 from the MVC (NDSU, SDSU, Illinois State)
3 from the Big Sky(EWU, MSU, Cal Poly)
2 from the southland (UCA, SHSU)
2 from the Socon (App, GSU)
1 from the MEAC (BC)
1 from the Big South(CCU)
1 from the NEC (Wagner)
1 from the OVC (Eastern Illinois)
1 from the Patriot (Colgate)

Now, the rest of the candidates for the remaining 2 spots.....
Stony Brook (9-2)
Miscellanious CAA team (8-3)
Wofford (8-3)
EKU (8-3)
UTM (8-3)
Lehigh (10-1)

Now, of the above teams I think we can take UTM off of the list as they lost to EKU. Both EKU and UTM have really unimpressive schedules in general. I think Wofford and the CAA team have more impressive schedules by virtue of finishing higher in a harder conference and by being conference champions of those conference. The OVC never produces anything in the playoffs and IMO it would be a travesty if either one of these teams leapfrogged Wofford or the CAA team. I highly doubt both would get in over Wofford as 3OVC teams and 2 Socon teams just doesn't look right.

From there, that leaves Lehigh, Stony Brook, Wofford, and Misc CAA. Even though Lehigh has 10 wins, they didn't win their conference and their conference is substantially weaker than the CAA and Socon. When has the Patriot gotten more than 1 team in? If so, was it in a field as hard as this? I think not. Mark Lehigh off of the list, it's just not happening.

And then, there's Stony Brook. They're a good team, and have had no problems on the schedule minus a substantial blemish against Liberty. It will cost them. Granted, they beat Army...but Army is not that good at 2-9. They play a really soft schedule, but I have a hard time thinking one of the top 4 CAA teams or Wofford couldn't finish 9-2 or better with the schedule they have.

In short, the Patriot, Big South, OVC, NEC, and MEAC are not 2 bid leagues.

Everyone wants to crack on Wofford for only winning 7 division 1 games, but the fact of the matter is that everyone decided to make that a big deal this year out of nowhere. We've made the playoffs with just as many wins in the past, when the field was even more narrow (2007, 2011) and it was a no-brainer we'd be in the playoffs. This year we have a better resume than last year with a conference championship under our belt. Everyone needs to stop freaking out about us not having as many division one wins as other teams, because that's really a non-factor as long as one is over 7. If the number of division one wins was the deciding factor, Lehigh would be locked up as a bid right now. I will say right now, Wofford has a schedule of similar or harder difficulty than most of the field. No one seems to mention that UNH and Richmond played only 4 teams (or less) with winning records, whereas Wofford played 6 (all in the latter half of the season).

The TL;DR of this is that Wofford is in you guys, I don't understand why it's a big controversy.



All this to prove that Wofford is in the Playoffs?

sorry, but 7 win Wofford will not make the playoffs

[Reign of Terrier]

Unfortunately no 7 win teams will make the playoffs

Wofford is out

Well wofford has 8 wins. So you're wrong. Wofford has made the playoffs with less of the resume they had this year. Try again.

[ekufbfan]

So much hate for EKU. As another EKU fan said this "board will implode" if EKU gets in. xsplatx

[FargoBison]

So much hate for EKU. As another EKU fan said this "board will explode" if EKU gets in. xsplatx

And it will completely meltdown if EKU and Lehigh get in.

[ITmonarch10]

Well wofford has 8 wins. So you're wrong. Wofford has made the playoffs with less of the resume they had this year. Try again.

You know Div 2 wins don't count for ****.

[World]

Well wofford has 8 wins. So you're wrong. Wofford has made the playoffs with less of the resume they had this year. Try again.

Oh, sorry about the 8 v 7 win situation

Is the committee going to count Wofford's Div. II win now?

The fact is that NO teams with only 7 Div. I wins will get into the playoffs, and that very much means Wofford is going to be left holding the bag.

[theirish]

So much hate for EKU. As another EKU fan said this "board will implode" if EKU gets in. xsplatx

They will really explode if YSU makes it in. Nobody is bringing them up, yet their résumé is stronger than many being discussed on here.

At the end of the day, their lackluster play in October will likely cost them a spot if I were a betting man.

[Reign of Terrier]

You know Div 2 wins don't count for ****.

Quit being a newb. 7 D1 wins is a non issue. It never has. Wofford has finished 8-3 with a sub d1 win twice before and still made the playoffs. So you guys keep telling me it will be held against, but the reality is that you guys are making up the rules as you without any understanding of what they actually are.

[ITmonarch10]

They will really explode if YSU makes it in. Nobody is bringing them up, yet their résumé is stronger than many being discussed on here.

At the end of the day, their lackluster play in October will likely cost them a spot if I were a betting man.

I know 7-4 with a win over Pit is impressive. However, 4 conference losses a row killed you ,but you would of made in the playoff last year or next year. Think about it this way, you boosted the hell out of your conferences GPI at least.

[sgt smash]

So much hate for EKU. As another EKU fan said this "board will implode" if EKU gets in. xsplatx

No, the OVC will just blow two more chances to end the playoff skid this year. That is all. You see ekufbfan, other conferences take pride in actually advancing in the playoffs, not just beating thier chests about an at-large.

[ITmonarch10]

Quit being a newb. 7 D1 wins is a non issue. It never has. Wofford has finished 8-3 with a sub d1 win twice before and still made the playoffs. So you guys keep telling me it will be held against, but the reality is that you guys are making up the rules as you without any understanding of what they actually are.

I am not making up rules. I'm just making up excuses considering how stacked the field is. You know they are going to find anyway possible to narrow the field.

[World]

Quit being a newb. 7 D1 wins is a non issue. It never has. Wofford has finished 8-3 with a sub d1 win twice before and still made the playoffs. So you guys keep telling me it will be held against, but the reality is that you guys are making up the rules as you without any understanding of what they actually are.

Sorry, but there will be NO 7 Div. I win team getting into this very strong field this year

Wofford is out

maybe next year.

[theirish]

UNI AD:
@TroyDannenUNIAD: If Youngstown State doesn’t make FCS field with 7 wins in the best league plus a win over Pitt, then we need to reevaluate at large criteria

[Reign of Terrier]

Sorry, but there will be NO 7 Div. I win team getting into this very strong field this year

Wofford is out

maybe next year. even though everyone has sam Houston state in, when the southland is weaker than the socon.

You are a terrible troll.

[World]

even though everyone has sam Houston state in, when the southland is weaker than the socon.

You are a terrible troll.

So what happens when it becomes obvious that your team will not get into the playoffs?

You begin with the insults

maybe next year

[sgt smash]

So what happens when it becomes obvious that your team will not get into the playoffs?

You begin with the insults

maybe next year

OK. I sent your mom home with $40 for her services and a pack of Pall Malls. She said if you are sleeping when she gets home, you get Lucky Charms for breakfast in the morning. I suggest you go to sleep.

[World]

OK. I sent your mom home with $40 for her services and a pack of Pall Malls. She said if you are sleeping when she gets home, you get Lucky Charms for breakfast in the morning. I suggest you go to sleep.

Interesting comments from a fan of a team that is going to do a one and out this year in the playoffs

[FargoBison]

Interesting comments from a fan of a team that is going to do a one and out this year in the playoffs

This coming from The_Fan...I guess I better buy my tickets to Frisco right now.

[sgt smash]

Interesting comments from a fan of a team that is going to do a one and out this year in the playoffs

We will see. Care to bet some internet monies on that? No cops, just Lawyers.

[CopperCat]

If there is a second seed from the Big Sky it will be Cal Poly.

Montana State has a sub-DI win, and they lost to the only top 4 Big Sky team that they played. They should not be seeded. And they should definitely not be seeded under EWU considering they lost to them.

Also, I'm going to say that if there is a seed from the Socon it will be GSU and not App. State. We won the tiebreaker and we finished higher in the rankings.

MSU will be seeded. Guaranteed.

[steelbison]

UNI AD:
@TroyDannenUNIAD: If Youngstown State doesn’t make FCS field with 7 wins in the best league plus a win over Pitt, then we need to reevaluate at large criteria


Problem is they got their *** handed to them in a couple of those loses. That is what is going to matter

[KUlawJack]

Interesting comments from a fan of a team that is going to do a one and out this year in the playoffs

This brought the lulz.

[seantaylor]

GSU, Woffie, and Appy in from the Socon. GSU only one with a chance to get seeded.

[MacThor]

If you're just comparing UR and UNH, UNH gets the nod. They beat Richmond..

Who knew those two blown calls in the 4th qtr would loom so large today...

[Engineer86]

Why does everyone think a 7 win Wofford team is so safe?

That is what I was thinking. Seems like people think UNH is out, but Wofford is in. I don't see it that cut and dry

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

This coming from The_Fan...I guess I better buy my tickets to Frisco right now.


I think you are right on with this.....

[Engineer86]

My predictions (I'm not discussing seeding, that's to be done after the field is set).

In for sure:

3 from the CAA (ODU, and 2 of the co-champs)
3 from the MVC (NDSU, SDSU, Illinois State)
3 from the Big Sky(EWU, MSU, Cal Poly)
2 from the southland (UCA, SHSU)
2 from the Socon (App, GSU)
1 from the MEAC (BC)
1 from the Big South(CCU)
1 from the NEC (Wagner)
1 from the OVC (Eastern Illinois)
1 from the Patriot (Colgate)

Now, the rest of the candidates for the remaining 2 spots.....
Stony Brook (9-2)
Miscellanious CAA team (8-3)
Wofford (8-3)
EKU (8-3)
UTM (8-3)
Lehigh (10-1)

Now, of the above teams I think we can take UTM off of the list as they lost to EKU. Both EKU and UTM have really unimpressive schedules in general. I think Wofford and the CAA team have more impressive schedules by virtue of finishing higher in a harder conference and by being conference champions of those conference. The OVC never produces anything in the playoffs and IMO it would be a travesty if either one of these teams leapfrogged Wofford or the CAA team. I highly doubt both would get in over Wofford as 3OVC teams and 2 Socon teams just doesn't look right.

From there, that leaves Lehigh, Stony Brook, Wofford, and Misc CAA. Even though Lehigh has 10 wins, they didn't win their conference and their conference is substantially weaker than the CAA and Socon. When has the Patriot gotten more than 1 team in? If so, was it in a field as hard as this? I think not. Mark Lehigh off of the list, it's just not happening.

And then, there's Stony Brook. They're a good team, and have had no problems on the schedule minus a substantial blemish against Liberty. It will cost them. Granted, they beat Army...but Army is not that good at 2-9. They play a really soft schedule, but I have a hard time thinking one of the top 4 CAA teams or Wofford couldn't finish 9-2 or better with the schedule they have.

In short, the Patriot, Big South, OVC, NEC, and MEAC are not 2 bid leagues.

Everyone wants to crack on Wofford for only winning 7 division 1 games, but the fact of the matter is that everyone decided to make that a big deal this year out of nowhere. We've made the playoffs with just as many wins in the past, when the field was even more narrow (2007, 2011) and it was a no-brainer we'd be in the playoffs. This year we have a better resume than last year with a conference championship under our belt. Everyone needs to stop freaking out about us not having as many division one wins as other teams, because that's really a non-factor as long as one is over 7. If the number of division one wins was the deciding factor, Lehigh would be locked up as a bid right now. I will say right now, Wofford has a schedule of similar or harder difficulty than most of the field. No one seems to mention that UNH and Richmond played only 4 teams (or less) with winning records, whereas Wofford played 6 (all in the latter half of the season).

The TL;DR of this is that Wofford is in you guys, I don't understand why it's a big controversy.

So the fact that it is a strong field this year will not impact wofford's chances with only 7 wins, but it will have an impact on a 10 win Lehigh team? The Patriot League (glad you have it straight now) has had multiple teams in several times and since they re-entered the playoffs, I think only once has a 9 win team from the Patriot League tea not gotten in, and I think that was a year when they had two teams in.

I am not sure if Lehigh is in, but if you think Wofford is safe, you should prepare yourself better, cause they are far from safe.

[MacThor]

The whole Towson, UNH, and Richmond debacle makes my head spin. I understand that there is more to it then head to head comparisons, but its mind boggling to me to put team A in over team B when team B beat team A, the evidence is on the field, not a computer. So if its down to those three for a spot, have to go with Towson.

So if the CAA gets 3 teams, I would have ODU, Nova, and Towson

It's not about the computers, otherwise Towson wouldn't be in the discussion as much. I understand you don't "punish" a team for FBS losses, but Towson is sort of being "rewarded" by the computers for scheduling another FBS game and losing. UR or UNH could have done the same thing and improved their computer models. To put Towson in over the other two you are basically saying an FBS loss > FCS win. They are 7-2 at FCS, UR & UNH are 8-2.

I don't know how much weight the H2H between UNH & UR will carry. The committee knows UNH won by 4 at home. Do they know about the controversy? The game was televised. Do they care? I really...don't...know.

There is a recency bias in human decision making. UNH was the one team of all the CAA teams that had a chance to "play for" the auto-bid outright, and they got shellacked at home by 29 points. Personally I think that's going to hurt their chances, but I'm not on the committee. All of the CAA teams have know they were playing for their playoff lives since mid-October every week, and UNH is the only one (of the remaining contenders) that laid an egg.

[Engineer86]

UNI AD:
@TroyDannenUNIAD: If Youngstown State doesn’t make FCS field with 7 wins in the best league plus a win over Pitt, then we need to reevaluate at large criteria

"... And next year YSU better repay this lobbying favor I am giving them this year" xlolx

[MacThor]

Two teams: Team A 6-2, 8-3. Team B 6-2, 7-4.

Vs common opponents:
A: Loss by 8, B: Loss by 11.
A: Win by 11, B: Win by 14.
A: Loss by 4, B: WIN by 29.
A: WIN by 6, B: Loss by 3.
A: Win by 39, B: Win by 31.
A: Win by 6, B: Win by 7.
A: Win by 7, B: Win by 3.

Sheesh that is close.

[Saint3333]

I think Wofford is in pretty big trouble too.

Did you see what they did to South Carolina for 3 quarters yesterday. If Wofford, co-champs of the SoCon, 7 D1 wins, a win in Boone, and a great showing vs. a top 10 BCS team is left out I have lost all faith in objectivity of what constitutes a playoff team.

Yes Lehigh I'm saying Wofford deserves it more than you.

[danefan]

Did you see what they did to South Carolina for 3 quarters yesterday. If Wofford, co-champs of the SoCon, 7 D1 wins, a win in Boone, and a great showing vs. a top 10 BCS team is left out I have lost all faith in objectivity of what constitutes a playoff team.


I have a hard time not seeing the co-champs of the SoCon in.

[atlfcsfan]

ASU getting a seed would be a travesty.

I wouldnt doubt it. I think Ga Southern or App will get a seed to guarantee some games with decent attendance. Both draw pretty good.

It is, what it is.

[Horseshoe App]

While I don't think either of us get a seed, your logic is not sound saying GSU would get a seed over ASU. We have identical records and we beat you head to head. I will admit I am a homer, but I think you got me beat.


If there is a second seed from the Big Sky it will be Cal Poly.

Montana State has a sub-DI win, and they lost to the only top 4 Big Sky team that they played. They should not be seeded. And they should definitely not be seeded under EWU considering they lost to them.

Also, I'm going to say that if there is a seed from the Socon it will be GSU and not App. State. We won the tiebreaker and we finished higher in the rankings.

[atlfcsfan]

It's not about the computers, otherwise Towson wouldn't be in the discussion as much. I understand you don't "punish" a team for FBS losses, but Towson is sort of being "rewarded" by the computers for scheduling another FBS game and losing. UR or UNH could have done the same thing and improved their computer models. To put Towson in over the other two you are basically saying an FBS loss > FCS win. They are 7-2 at FCS, UR & UNH are 8-2.

I don't know how much weight the H2H between UNH & UR will carry. The committee knows UNH won by 4 at home. Do they know about the controversy? The game was televised. Do they care? I really...don't...know.

There is a recency bias in human decision making. UNH was the one team of all the CAA teams that had a chance to "play for" the auto-bid outright, and they got shellacked at home by 29 points. Personally I think that's going to hurt their chances, but I'm not on the committee. All of the CAA teams have know they were playing for their playoff lives since mid-October every week, and UNH is the only one (of the remaining contenders) that laid an egg.

You are contradicting yourself. First you dont want to reward Towson for playing 2 FCS game but only give them credit for only having 7 FCS win as compared to 8- for UR&UNH, so while you are saying FBS loss> FCS win isnt fair, when you compare 7-2 vs FCS to 8-2 in FCS arent you saying FBS loss< FCW win ?xnonox

[CorrosionDoc]

If there is a second seed from the Big Sky it will be Cal Poly.

Montana State has a sub-DI win, and they lost to the only top 4 Big Sky team that they played. They should not be seeded. And they should definitely not be seeded under EWU considering they lost to them.


Weak justification. MSU has one loss, by 3 points to a team (EWU) that everyone agrees should be seeded. EWU on the other hand, barely beat MSU and has a loss to a team that finished .500 in the conf.

[MacThor]

You are contradicting yourself. First you dont want to reward Towson for playing 2 FCS game but only give them credit for only having 7 FCS win as compared to 8- for UR&UNH, so while you are saying FBS loss> FCS win isnt fair, when you compare 7-2 vs FCS to 8-2 in FCS arent you saying FBS loss< FCW win ?xnonox

I'm not contradicting myself, I just didn't say it very well. I think a D1 win is better than a D1 loss period. Towson's computer rankings are higher than they would be if they were 8-3 with another OOC FCS win. Conversely UR and UNH would be higher in the computers if they were 7-4 with a 2nd FBS game. The computers are warped in that way.

The committee may well discard all 7 D1 win teams. Towson's biggest problem now may be that the JMU loss looks bad. They are the only good CAA team JMU beat.

[Hansel]

Weak justification. MSU has one loss, by 3 points to a team (EWU) that everyone agrees should be seeded. EWU on the other hand, barely beat MSU and has a loss to a team that finished .500 in the conf.

EWU has two wins over playoff teams,an FBS win and won the conference.. MSU did not play an FBS team, played a DII, and a Pioneer League team and has no wins over playoff teams. MSU's best win was over 6-5 sac st.

[ekufbfan]

No, the OVC will just blow two more chances to end the playoff skid this year. That is all. You see ekufbfan, other conferences take pride in actually advancing in the playoffs, not just beating thier chests about an at-large.

Are you kidding me? What a hot mess some of you people are. I nor anyone else on here is thumping their chest about getting an at large, get real. (Frankly I don't expect that we will get in, but who knows. I do know that I can expect a bunch of whining from some of you if we do). The discussion is about who does get in that is not an AQ. I am sorry, but all I read from most NDS fans is put downs on other teams. I realize that you are new to all this, however some of us have been around a long time and have a little maturity and discuss pro and cons without insults! Funny, I never see this kind of immature dribble from App State fans.xsmhx

[Engineer86]

Are you kidding me? What a hot mess some of you people are. I nor anyone else on here is thumping their chest about getting an at large, get real. (Frankly I don't expect that we will get in, but who knows. I do know that I can expect a bunch of whining from some of you if we do). The discussion is about who does get in that is not an AQ. I am sorry, but all I read from most NDS fans is put downs on other teams. I realize that you are new to all this, however some of us have been around a long time and have a little maturity and discuss pro and cons without insults! Funny, I never see this kind of inmature dribble from App State fans.xsmhx

+1

[isured89]

Talk me off the ledge here. Illinois State will make the playoffs...right?

Felt pretty confident last night, but did a little studying this morning. In my mind, I keep hearing the selection show analyst say, "ISUr had their chance to lock up a playoff spot, but you just can't lose to SIU and MoSt at home."

Unfortunately, it seems like a fairly valid point.

Are wins over the OVC auto-bid, an FBS, YSU, and ISUb enough? Getting a little worried, especially after CSJ had the Birds out of the field.

[EKU Toss Sweep]

No, the OVC will just blow two more chances to end the playoff skid this year. That is all. You see ekufbfan, other conferences take pride in actually advancing in the playoffs, not just beating thier chests about an at-large.

I haven't seen an EKU fan or anyone else from the OVC beating their chests over possible at large bids. Most acknowledge that they came up short of the AQ for the league and are now on the bubble. Funny how others on this board seem to justify one teams spot on the bubble and dismiss another usually using circular arguments. Some seem to get more "points" for a win over team A than others do for a win over the same team. Strange how that works.

EKU fans have been there before and know it sucks when you don't advance. Nobody is ordering rings for a spot in the field. Success begets success and making the field is step 1 towards success. Last year shouldn't matter but it does. Ask Sammy.

In or out the rest of the day is going to be fun. And before I forget, all hail the mighty mvfc and caa. We should now hail both since there seems to be a bit of a pissing match over who should get there 7th place team into the field.

[CopperCat]

EWU has two wins over playoff teams,an FBS win and won the conference.. MSU did not play an FBS team, played a DII, and a Pioneer League team and has no wins over playoff teams. MSU's best win was over 6-5 sac st.

You live in the wrong town bro.

[Lehigh Lover]

Since Lehigh is public enemy #1 on here and seems to be the team that will screw somebody out of a playoff bid, let me give you my feeling on it. I don't know what it is that garners so much hate for Lehigh on here. Don't know if it's the fan base on this board or if people esp. those west of the Mississippi just don't know who Lehigh is and they just look at the Patriot League as weak and irrelevant, but Lehigh has had solid playoff showings consistently for the better part of over a decade. They are the only Patriot League team that has consistently represented the league well. Yet the hate seems to be more for Lehigh than the Patriot League as a whole. If you are going on this year alone, then I find it hard to believe that Lehigh will get an at-large bid because they scheduled soft and they won close and did not win the league title in a game that was in their lap at home. There are so many deserving teams and if this year had a 24 team draw, they would be in no question. But as many of you know, the committee tends to reward teams based on street cred and past playoff success and if they get an at-large bid, it will be because of that. They have been ranked in the top 15 all year in both polls (not AGS of course) based mostly on last year's success as well. It seems that the more successful playoff showings they have, the more you people hate them. If they get in, they will represent well. But my gut feeling is they will not and the majority of this board can breathe a sigh of relief.

[PAllen]

I haven't seen an EKU fan or anyone else from the OVC beating their chests over possible at large bids. Most acknowledge that they came up short of the AQ for the league and are now on the bubble. Funny how others on this board seem to justify one teams spot on the bubble and dismiss another usually using circular arguments. Some seem to get more "points" for a win over team A than others do for a win over the same team. Strange how that works.

EKU fans have been there before and know it sucks when you don't advance. Nobody is ordering rings for a spot in the field. Success begets success and making the field is step 1 towards success. Last year shouldn't matter but it does. Ask Sammy.

In or out the rest of the day is going to be fun. And before I forget, all hail the mighty mvfc and caa. We should now hail both since there seems to be a bit of a pissing match over who should get there 7th place team into the field.

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