AGS Poll - Week 10 Results

[AGSPoll]

1 North Dakota State Bison 2234 (79)
2 Montana State Bobcats 2051 (5)
3 Eastern Washington Eagles 1913
4 Old Dominion Monarchs 1879
5 Sam Houston State Bearkats 1803 (5)
6 Stony Brook Seawolves 1751
7 Georgia Southern Eagles 1591
8 James Madison Dukes 1566
9 Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 1520
10 New Hampshire Wildcats 1399
11 Appalachian State Mountaineers 1240
12 Wofford Terriers 1218
13 Central Arkansas Bears 1213
14 Lehigh Mountain Hawks 1206
15 Illinois State Redbirds 1019
16 Cal Poly Mustangs 965
17 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 893
18 Richmond Spiders 690
19 Indiana State Sycamores 653
20 Towson Tigers 460
21 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 419
22 Villanova Wildcats 382
23 Harvard Crimson 197
24 Eastern Illinois Panthers 186
25 Albany Great Danes 168



Most Significant Win:
Appalachian State Mountaineers

Most Significant Loss:
Georgia Southern Eagles


26 Eastern Kentucky Colonels 161
27 Sacramento State Hornets 121
28 Bethune-Cookman Wildcats 104
29 Samford Bulldogs 47
30 Tennessee State Tigers 42
31 McNeese State Cowboys 40
32 Colgate Raiders 32
33 Southern Illinois Salukis 23
34 The Citadel Bulldogs 16
35 Youngstown State Penguins 15
36 Northern Iowa Panthers 12
37 Chattanooga Mocs 7
38 Wagner Seahawks 5
39 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 4
40 Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens 3

[Twentysix]

Most significant loss - Albany or Wofford imo.

I see that 5 Sam fans voted this week ;)

[Dane96]

Most significant loss - Albany or Wofford imo.

I see that 5 Sam fans voted this week ;)

Agreed...I gave it to UA.

Both teams are in playoff fights for their lives.

[BEAR]

My Bears sneakin' up AGAIN one spot...Tough road to the top ten..xlolx Not enough weeks left to move to the top ten one spot at a time. xlolx

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Most significant loss - Albany or Wofford imo.

I see that 5 Sam fans voted this week ;)

I don't understand how GSU could get that either but Wofford was a close second at least this week. I don't see why people are primarily just taking one game and making that the most significant win/loss. I don't get that at all. Since so little thought is being put into it maybe it isn't something we even need to track or ask for any longer.

It is significant to possible put yourself out a seed but is it nearly as significant as possibly putting yourself out of the playoffs at this late stage in the game? No way.

[LehighU11]

Here's mine. Critique as you will. Albany dropped like a brick from mine after ruining their playoff hopes.

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Old Dominion Monarchs
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: Stony Brook Seawolves
5: New Hampshire Wildcats
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: Montana State Bobcats
8: Georgia Southern Eagles
9: Illinois State Redbirds
10: James Madison Dukes
11: Central Arkansas Bears
12: Indiana State Sycamores
13: Appalachian State Mountaineers
14: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
15: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
16: Richmond Spiders
17: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
18: Wofford Terriers
19: Towson Tigers
20: Cal Poly Mustangs
21: Villanova Wildcats
22: Harvard Crimson
23: Sacramento State Hornets
24: Chattanooga Mocs
25: Colgate Raiders

[Twentysix]

Here's mine. Critique as you will. Albany dropped like a brick from mine after ruining their playoff hopes.

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Old Dominion Monarchs
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: Stony Brook Seawolves
5: New Hampshire Wildcats
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: Montana State Bobcats
8: Georgia Southern Eagles
9: Illinois State Redbirds
10: James Madison Dukes
11: Central Arkansas Bears
12: Indiana State Sycamores
13: Appalachian State Mountaineers
14: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
15: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
16: Richmond Spiders
17: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
18: Wofford Terriers
19: Towson Tigers
20: Cal Poly Mustangs
21: Villanova Wildcats
22: Harvard Crimson
23: Sacramento State Hornets
24: Chattanooga Mocs
25: Colgate Raiders

Probably overvalue Indiana State, undervalue SDSU. Not too terrible other than that. Ill stick to criticizing in my conference.

[Dane96]

Lehigh11.

While I put UA at 23...to say they dropped like a brick from hurting their playoff chances is a bit illogical to me. This poll isn't about picking playoff teams...it is about picking the best teams.

Albany is better than Harvard...and beat Colgate and would beat them again today (though Colgate made my poll). Most of us have NO idea wtf happened this weekend. It was a lack of heart IMHO, which is disturbing.

Otherwise...good crack at the poll.

[Sammy94]

I see that 5 Sam fans voted this week

I voted, but here is mine.

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: Old Dominion Monarchs
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Stony Brook Seawolves
7: Georgia Southern Eagles
8: James Madison Dukes
9: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
10: Central Arkansas Bears
11: New Hampshire Wildcats
12: Wofford Terriers
13: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
14: Appalachian State Mountaineers
15: Illinois State Redbirds
16: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
17: Cal Poly Mustangs
18: Richmond Spiders
19: Towson Tigers
20: Indiana State Sycamores
21: Harvard Crimson
22: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
23: Villanova Wildcats
24: Eastern Illinois Panthers
25: Sacramento State Hornets

[bluehenbillk]

Very well done poll. Kudos to the voters.

[danefan]

Albany shouldn't be ranked, IMO.

I have been saying for the past 3-4 weeks that we haven't been playing like a Top 20 team. Since Monmouth we have been slowly declining and squeaking out wins. We were still a Top 25 team until the loss to Wagner, but not Top 20. Now we're not. We got destroyed by Wagner. Manhandled.

Not a Top 25 team.

[bluehenbillk]

Here's my poll:

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: Old Dominion Monarchs
5: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: Georgia Southern Eagles
8: James Madison Dukes
9: New Hampshire Wildcats
10: Stony Brook Seawolves
11: Central Arkansas Bears
12: Illinois State Redbirds
13: Wofford Terriers
14: Appalachian State Mountaineers
15: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
16: Richmond Spiders
17: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
18: Cal Poly Mustangs
19: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
20: Indiana State Sycamores
21: Towson Tigers
22: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
23: Samford Bulldogs
24: Villanova Wildcats
25: McNeese State Cowboys

[Dane96]

Albany shouldn't be ranked, IMO.

I have been saying for the past 3-4 weeks that we haven't been playing like a Top 20 team. Since Monmouth we have been slowly declining and squeaking out wins. We were still a Top 25 team until the loss to Wagner, but not Top 20. Now we're not. We got destroyed by Wagner. Manhandled.

Not a Top 25 team.

Agree somewhat...but benefit of the doubt in the 23-30 range. I have no idea what happened this weekend. IT was disgusting.

So...I agree with people who knock them out...but not knocking them out because they put a dent in the playoff hopes. That is not logical to what the poll is about. It is logical to knock them out because they got destroyed by a lesser team.

[JMUNJ08]

Here's mine. Albany did take a crazy drop in mine but I was high on them. I would love some feedback and be able to defend my positions :)

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: Stony Brook Seawolves
4: Old Dominion Monarchs
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Central Arkansas Bears
7: Sam Houston State Bearkats
8: James Madison Dukes
9: Georgia Southern Eagles
10: Wofford Terriers
11: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
12: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
13: Illinois State Redbirds
14: New Hampshire Wildcats
15: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
16: Appalachian State Mountaineers
17: Cal Poly Mustangs
18: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
19: Villanova Wildcats
20: Richmond Spiders
21: Indiana State Sycamores
22: Albany Great Danes
23: Towson Tigers
24: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
25: Wagner Seahawks

[Twentysix]

SDSU is being drastically undervalued in most of these polls, imo.

[BEAR]

Here's mine. Albany did take a crazy drop in mine but I was high on them. I would love some feedback and be able to defend my positions :)

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: Stony Brook Seawolves
4: Old Dominion Monarchs
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Central Arkansas Bears
7: Sam Houston State Bearkats
8: James Madison Dukes
9: Georgia Southern Eagles
10: Wofford Terriers
11: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
12: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
13: Illinois State Redbirds
14: New Hampshire Wildcats
15: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
16: Appalachian State Mountaineers
17: Cal Poly Mustangs
18: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
19: Villanova Wildcats
20: Richmond Spiders
21: Indiana State Sycamores
22: Albany Great Danes
23: Towson Tigers
24: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
25: Wagner Seahawks

I can't defend that.

[JMUNJ08]

I can't defend that.

24-20? I have had them next to each other ever since that game. SHSU has been impressive lately but there are no playoff teams really in that stretch (McNeese?). Unless there is a crazy good showing at A&M to end the season or an L by either, it will stay this way to me.

And if you're talking about #6 & #7, I think all those with 2 L's are very interchangable but I like the top 2 from the Southland this year.

[superman7515]

Here's mine. Albany did take a crazy drop in mine but I was high on them. I would love some feedback and be able to defend my positions :)

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: Stony Brook Seawolves
4: Old Dominion Monarchs
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Central Arkansas Bears
7: Sam Houston State Bearkats
8: James Madison Dukes
9: Georgia Southern Eagles
10: Wofford Terriers
11: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
12: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
13: Illinois State Redbirds
14: New Hampshire Wildcats
15: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
16: Appalachian State Mountaineers
17: Cal Poly Mustangs
18: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
19: Villanova Wildcats
20: Richmond Spiders
21: Indiana State Sycamores
22: Albany Great Danes
23: Towson Tigers
24: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
25: Wagner Seahawks

Mine looked very similar. The only team in the polls we didn't both have was you have Wagner and I had Tennessee State.

[BEAR]

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate it but Sam is playing at a whole other level right now. I'd put UCA #11 or #10 and Sam at #5 or higher ! Just a difference of opinion that's all.

[andy7171]

LOL Delaware - 3votes

billk, gannonfan and stateline liquor! xlolxxlolxxlolx

[danefan]

Agree somewhat...but benefit of the doubt in the 23-30 range. I have no idea what happened this weekend. IT was disgusting.

So...I agree with people who knock them out...but not knocking them out because they put a dent in the playoff hopes. That is not logical to what the poll is about. It is logical to knock them out because they got destroyed by a lesser team.

It was disgusting but it wasn't out of character for the team if you look only at the games after Monmouth. Zero offense and porous defense at times. Wagner shut down our offense and the defense was non-existent in the first half. We have lost the big-play ability that kept us in the games we were able to win early in the season.

[andy7171]

Here's mine. Albany did take a crazy drop in mine but I was high on them. I would love some feedback and be able to defend my positions :)

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: Stony Brook Seawolves
4: Old Dominion Monarchs
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Central Arkansas Bears
7: Sam Houston State Bearkats
8: James Madison Dukes
9: Georgia Southern Eagles
10: Wofford Terriers
11: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
12: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
13: Illinois State Redbirds
14: New Hampshire Wildcats
15: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
16: Appalachian State Mountaineers
17: Cal Poly Mustangs
18: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
19: Villanova Wildcats
20: Richmond Spiders
21: Indiana State Sycamores
22: Albany Great Danes
23: Towson Tigers
24: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
25: Wagner Seahawks

Villanova over Towson! xconfusedx

[GeauxLions94]

Did you get mine? Voted this morning but never got a reply.

[superman7515]

LOL Delaware - 3votes

billk, gannonfan and stateline liquor! xlolxxlolxxlolx

I haven't had Delaware in my poll for weeks, but you could argue they "dropped" more than they should have. They weren't in the Top 25, but were receiving votes, and lost to a Top 25 (obviously higher ranked) team in OT, so in theory you had Towson at 20 and Delaware at 25 last week. Towson won, it was close, so Delaware shouldn't have dropped because the result was what was expected. And I'm not saying that as a Delaware fan, just expressing my way of thinking for the polls. I've seen games where it is #3 vs #4, #4 loses by a field goal and people drop them out of the Top 10. Why? The game went exactly as expected, so if anything it shows you had them ranked correctly last week.

[Sam_Kats]

Sam is ROLLING right now. Rank em wherever you want - the pundits know they're top 5.

[MR. CHICKEN]

I don't understand how GSU could get that either but Wofford was a close second at least this week. I don't see why people are primarily just taking one game and making that the most significant win/loss. I don't get that at all. Since so little thought is being put into it maybe it isn't something we even need to track or ask for any longer.

It is significant to possible put yourself out a seed but is it nearly as significant as possibly putting yourself out of the playoffs at this late stage in the game? No way.

TA ME....WHEN DUH HIGHEST RANKIN' TEAM GOES DOWN..IN DUH POLL.....DAT IS SIGNIFICANT....#2 GA. SO.......BEATEN BAH #16 APP STATE IN MAYBERRAH.....HOWEVERAH...AH CAN UNDERSTAND #4 WOOFY.....AN' PLAYOFF IMPLICATIONS....BEATEN BAH SAMFORD.....NOT EVEN IN TOP 40...COUPLE OTS..TA DO IT.........CAIN'T GET WORKED UP...OVERAH UH #17 ALBANY....GETTIN' BEAT...BAH NON-TOP 40...WAGNER...EVEN WHIFF PLAY-OFF INSPIRATIONS.....HEY INDIANA STATE LOSS.....ILLINOIS STATE WIN.....TENNESSEE STATE LOSS...DITTO...COOD ARGUE...IFIN' ALBANY CASE HELD WA-WA.......AWK!

[Twentysix]

Sam is ROLLING right now. Rank em wherever you want - the pundits know they're top 5.

Beat texas A&M and get the 1 seed.

Lose and miss the playoffs.

What a good position to be in! xlolx

Sam does look good though :p

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Did you get mine? Voted this morning but never got a reply.

Got it, very late however, but you need to put your email in correctly or else you and agspoll will never see it. Since it was so loate and the email was messed up I verified it and passed it through. You can not just hit "tab" after putting in the first three letters of the email cuz that will only use just that as your email address just for future reference. When it drops down, you need to select the address with the mouse as opposed to tabbing unfortunately. I've made that mistake myself.

[JMUNJ08]

Villanova over Towson! xconfusedx

Nice win H2H but there were other factors. I could say record but LSU to Penn/ Fordham would be unfair as well. Really, that win @ ODU for Nova was really nice and you guys didn't knock down the Monarchs at your place. Believe me, I think regardless of rankings, you guys win the last 2 and should be the first 7-4 team in line for a playoff berth this year.

[Sam_Kats]

Sam WILL lose to a top 12 A&M and WILL also make the playoffs. I'm assuming you mean if we lose to NWSt?

[Twentysix]

Ursus do you know if UNI recieved 1 vote or numerous votes?

[Samalum'10]

Beat texas A&M and get the 1 seed.

Lose and miss the playoffs.

What a good position to be in! xlolx

Sam does look good though :p
You honestly believe Sam has to finish 9-2 to get into the playoffs?

[Dane96]

It was disgusting but it wasn't out of character for the team if you look only at the games after Monmouth. Zero offense and porous defense at times. Wagner shut down our offense and the defense was non-existent in the first half. We have lost the big-play ability that kept us in the games we were able to win early in the season.

Reppies

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

The SoCon teams were tough...

1: NDSU Bison
2: EWU Eagles
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: Stony Brook Seawolves
5: Sam Houston State Bearkats
6: Old Dominion Monarchs
7: Central Arkansas Bears
8: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
9: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
10: New Hampshire Wildcats
11: Georgia Southern Eagles
12: Illinois State Redbirds
13: Wofford Terriers
14: Appalachian State Mountaineers
15: James Madison Dukes
16: Cal Poly Mustangs
17: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
18: Richmond Spiders
19: Harvard Crimson
20: Indiana State Sycamores
21: Colgate Raiders
22: Towson Tigers
23: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
24: McNeese State Cowboys
25: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats

[Twentysix]

You honestly believe Sam has to finish 9-2 to get into the playoffs?

I am not sold 7 DI wins will cut it. Sam will have to finish 8-2 in DI games to secure a playoff spot, yes, and at 8-2 in DI games they probably deserve the #1 seed.

[Sam_Kats]

I am not sold 7 DI wins will cut it. Sam will have to finish 8-2 in DI games to secure a playoff spot, yes, and at 8-2 in DI games they probably deserve the #1 seed.

Wrong.

[Twentysix]

Wrong.

Why sam rather than Wofford? Why sam rather than Indiana State? Both teams will have the same record and play in a much tougher conference.

[JMUNJ08]

I am not sold 7 DI wins will cut it. Sam will have to finish 8-2 in DI games to secure a playoff spot, yes, and at 8-2 in DI games they probably deserve the #1 seed.

With 2 FBS teams I think it is. Towson could really sneak in @ 7-4. If JMU & ODU finish at 9-2, there other 2 L's to LSU & Kent Sate (good this year), and solid wins ON THE ROAD @UDEL, @Nova & @UNH. I see them over several other 8-3 teams from power conferences or 9-2 from the lesser.

[Sam_Kats]

Not saying it's a no-brainer - I just think if the Kats win this weekend, they're in. Depending on how they handle Texas A&M, they could get seeded.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Ursus do you know if UNI recieved 1 vote or numerous votes?

They received one vote. The voter was questioned on it and he had reason enough based on his way of voting but the PC did not come to consensus on it so it went through. He was asked to post it on the thread and discuss his reasoning with y'all along with one other team but I don't think he will be doing so. His reasoning and explanation is not without merit but most will question it at this point in the season.

[Twentysix]

They received one vote. The voter was questioned on it and he had reason enough based on his way of voting but the PC did not come to consensus on it so it went through. He was asked to post it on the thread and discuss his reasoning with y'all along with one other team but I don't think he will be doing so. His reasoning and explanation is not without merit but most will question it at this point in the season.

Reasoning doesn't matter, someone was theorizing 12 voters put UNI at #25. I said this is crazy talk. Thanks for the reply.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Reasoning doesn't matter, someone was theorizing 12 voters put UNI at #25. I said this is crazy talk. Thanks for the reply.

How did I miss that part of the discussion...better go reread cuz I didn't even see that.xlolx

[Twentysix]

How did I miss that part of the discussion...better go reread cuz I didn't even see that.xlolx

Its in another thread.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?122518-Lehigh/page12

[Gil Dobie]

Most significant loss - Albany or Wofford imo.

I see that 5 Sam fans voted this week ;)

I am not a Sam fan :)

[DSUrocks07]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Old Dominion Monarchs
3: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
4: Stony Brook Seawolves
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: James Madison Dukes
7: Appalachian State Mountaineers
8: Montana State Bobcats
9: Georgia Southern Eagles
10: New Hampshire Wildcats
11: Wofford Terriers
12: Sam Houston State Bearkats
13: Cal Poly Mustangs
14: Illinois State Redbirds
15: Central Arkansas Bears
16: Richmond Spiders
17: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
18: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
19: Towson Tigers
20: Eastern Illinois Panthers
21: Villanova Wildcats
22: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
23: Harvard Crimson
24: Albany Great Danes
25: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats

Sig win: App (GaSo was my #1)
Sig loss: Albany (was at #11 previous week)

[asumike83]

My Week 10 Poll:

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: Old Dominion Monarchs
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Sam Houston State Bearkats
6: Stony Brook Seawolves
7: James Madison Dukes
8: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
9: Georgia Southern Eagles
10: New Hampshire Wildcats
11: Appalachian State Mountaineers
12: Wofford Terriers
13: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
14: Central Arkansas Bears
15: Illinois State Redbirds
16: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
17: Richmond Spiders
18: Towson Tigers
19: Indiana State Sycamores
20: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
21: Villanova Wildcats
22: Eastern Illinois Panthers
23: Sacramento State Hornets
24: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
25: Harvard Crimson

Most Significant Win:
Appalachian State Mountaineers

Most Significant Loss:
Albany Great Danes

[Gil Dobie]

Why sam rather than Wofford? Why sam rather than Indiana State? Both teams will have the same record and play in a much tougher conference.

Sam will be 7-1 in FCS

[Kemo]

Why sam rather than Wofford? Why sam rather than Indiana State? Both teams will have the same record and play in a much tougher conference.
I've been thinking this exact same thing. I believe SHSU is a good team, but what about this year's resume makes them better than any of these teams?

They don't have a real signature win and play in a conference that is traditionally below that of the power 4 (CAA, MVC, Southern, Big Sky) and didn't even win it. They have a pretty good SoS because they played 2 BCS teams, but if you don't win them, how is that definitive proof that they are good? It goes back to the mantra of "everyone is capable of losing to a good team, but not everyone can beat one."

Too much left to play out for me to say whether SHSU deserves a playoff spot at this point, but I think there are scenarios out there where they could be justifiably left out.

[The Eagle's Cliff]

Most significant loss - Albany or Wofford imo.

I see that 5 Sam fans voted this week ;)

I agree. Wofford losing to Samford is way more significant than either App or GSU beating each other.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I am not a Sam fan :)

For more clarification there was not a single SHSU voter having them at #1. I'm not sure why everybody always wants to believe that there is a bunch of homer voting going on?

Unless it's a joke and is not distinguishable from finger pointing at this point.

[asumike83]

I agree. Wofford losing to Samford is way more significant than either App or GSU beating each other.

I went with Albany. Getting blanked 30-0 at home by Wagner with a playoff spot on the line dropped them out of my poll all together.

[bobcathpdevil56]

I agree. Wofford losing to Samford is way more significant than either App or GSU beating each other.

I put Sac State as most significant loss. Eliminated from playoffs after a close and tough loss to MSU

Edit: Well not entirely eliminated but extremely unlikely to get in

[ecasadoSBU]

Good to see Stony Brook as #6 in the AGS, TSN Polls. With a win at Liberty we would probably crack the top 5.

Lets go Seawolves

[ITmonarch10]

I put Sac State as most significant loss. Eliminated from playoffs after a close and tough loss to MSU

Edit: Well not entirely eliminated but extremely unlikely to get in

If Cal Poly loses to NAU, I'd prefer Sac State get in over Cal Poly given the schedule they had.

[ITmonarch10]

Good to see Stony Brook as #6 in the AGS, TSN Polls. With a win at Liberty we would probably crack the top 5.

Lets go Seawolves
I doubt it liberty isn't so great this year. Stony brook gets to #5 if the teams above you lose.

[crusader11]

How I see it:

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Eastern Washington Eagles
3: Old Dominion Monarchs
4: Georgia Southern Eagles
5: Stony Brook Seawolves
6: New Hampshire Wildcats
7: Montana State Bobcats
8: Sam Houston State Bearkats
9: James Madison Dukes
10: Appalachian State Mountaineers
11: Wofford Terriers
12: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
13: Cal Poly Mustangs
14: Indiana State Sycamores
15: Illinois State Redbirds
16: Richmond Spiders
17: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
18: Central Arkansas Bears
19: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
20: Towson Tigers
21: Colgate Raiders
22: Harvard Crimson
23: Albany Great Danes
24: Villanova Wildcats
25: Sacramento State Hornets

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I doubt it liberty isn't so great this year. Stony brook gets to #5 if the teams above you lose.

Agreed and depending on how that game goes with Liberty they may not move up. They are likely about topped out considering schedule even though a very good team.

[Walkon79]

If Cal Poly loses to NAU, I'd prefer Sac State get in over Cal Poly given the schedule they had.

I would agree with that. CP would have too many late losses, and lost the head to head against Sac.

[BisonBohl]

South Dakota State should be higher imo second best team in the MFVC

[BisonBacker]

Sam is ROLLING right now. Rank em wherever you want - the pundits know they're top 5.
I have you guys at #2 right now. The last game of the season will tell me much more about your team.

[KATS_21]

I have you guys at #2 right now. The last game of the season will tell me much more about your team.

What do you want to Sam to do in the last game against A&M?

[BisonBacker]

What do you want to Sam to do in the last game against A&M?
I just would hope to see a showing of similar fashion to what GSU did last year against Bama. No you are not supposed to win but make it respectable.

[I-16Bandit]

Some of you are dropping Georgia Southern almost 10 spots by losing to a good top 20 team by 3? And dare I say, a game full of questionable calls?

Geezus.

[gotts]

Some of you are dropping Georgia Southern almost 10 spots by losing to a good top 20 team by 3? And dare I say, a game full of questionable calls?

Geezus.

I echo this sentiment.

[WileECoyote06]

Some of you are dropping Georgia Southern almost 10 spots by losing to a good top 20 team by 3? And dare I say, a game full of questionable calls?

Geezus.

I didn't. But GSU was my #1 team; I only dropped you to #5.

[BisonBacker]

Some of you are dropping Georgia Southern almost 10 spots by losing to a good top 20 team by 3? And dare I say, a game full of questionable calls?

Geezus.
You were my #2 team last week, I dropped you guys to 4. Not everyone votes like that.

[TheRevSFA]

Here's mine..

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: Old Dominion Monarchs
5: Stony Brook Seawolves
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: Georgia Southern Eagles
8: James Madison Dukes
9: Wofford Terriers
10: Central Arkansas Bears
11: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
12: Appalachian State Mountaineers
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
15: Illinois State Redbirds
16: Cal Poly Mustangs
17: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
18: Indiana State Sycamores
19: Richmond Spiders
20: Towson Tigers
21: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
22: Harvard Crimson
23: Villanova Wildcats
24: Albany Great Danes
25: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats

[WrenFGun]

I think people may be nailing Ga. Southern for a FUTURE loss in the poll to drop to 8-3, sliding them behind teams more likely to make 9-2.

The most fascinating part about this season is the fact that two of the better teams right now (Towson and SHSU) are extremely unlikely to reach 8 DI wins. It'll be interesting to see how much stock the committee puts into FCS wins, current ranking and perceived talent, because there is unfortunately nothing about Sam's resume that suggests they are more worthy than other 7 DI win teams. Aside from that, though, it's clear to me they have some of the best talent in the country ... but should that matter when it comes to evaluating who has the best resume?

Same with Towson, ultimately; at best, they can reach 7-4 and a tie for the CAA title. There simply might not be enough non 8 DI win teams for them to go in, even if they close out with a win over UNH.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Haven't posted mine for a couple of weeks but I'm ok with this one.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Old Dominion Monarchs
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: Stony Brook Seawolves
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: James Madison Dukes
8: Georgia Southern Eagles
9: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
10: New Hampshire Wildcats
11: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: Appalachian State Mountaineers
14: Wofford Terriers
15: Illinois State Redbirds
16: Cal Poly Mustangs
17: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
18: Indiana State Sycamores
19: Richmond Spiders
20: Towson Tigers
21: Villanova Wildcats
22: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
23: Eastern Illinois Panthers
24: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
25: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats

[UNH72Plus]

So much for the CAA having a down year, three teams in the top ten and six in the top 25; and that's not counting Towson. Admittedly they scheduled some weak OOC teams, but take the bottom dwellers (URI & Ga State) out of the mix and the CAA went 16-2 in OOC games with an average winning marngin oF 30+ points. All this with #6 Stony Brook and # 25 Albany waiting in the wings to join us!

[Jacked_Rabbit]

South Dakota State should be higher imo second best team in the MFVC

This hits the nail on the head...

[WileECoyote06]

My Bears sneakin' up AGAIN one spot...Tough road to the top ten..xlolx Not enough weeks left to move to the top ten one spot at a time. xlolx

You guys have great fans. Because the fans of some other schools/conference who don't have as impressive a resume as yours so far have complained enough to poison the minds of the pollsters.xlolx UCA is in my top ten and they've earned it. Average strength of your FCS opponents according to the GPI so far is 48. I notice a few ten teams which don't match what you've done.

[WileECoyote06]

So much for the CAA having a down year, three teams in the top ten and six in the top 25; and that's not counting Towson. Admittedly they scheduled some weak OOC teams, but take the bottom dwellers (URI & Ga State) out of the mix and the CAA went 16-2 in OOC games with an average winning marngin oF 30+ points. All this with #6 Stony Brook and # 25 Albany waiting in the wings to join us!

Is it fair to mention that four of those teams in the top 25 played both URI and Ga. State? #twomorefcswins

[darell1976]

Here is my ballot:

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: Old Dominion Monarchs
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Stony Brook Seawolves
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: Georgia Southern Eagles
8: Wofford Terriers
9: James Madison Dukes
10: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
11: New Hampshire Wildcats
12: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
13: Central Arkansas Bears
14: Cal Poly Mustangs
15: Appalachian State Mountaineers
16: Illinois State Redbirds
17: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
18: Richmond Spiders
19: Towson Tigers
20: Indiana State Sycamores
21: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
22: Harvard Crimson
23: Eastern Illinois Panthers
24: Villanova Wildcats
25: Albany Great Danes

[KATS_21]

You guys have great fans. Because the fans of some other schools/conference who don't have as impressive a resume as yours so far have complained enough to poison the minds of the pollsters.xlolx UCA is in my top ten and they've earned it. Average strength of your FCS opponents according to the GPI so far is 48. I notice a few ten teams which don't match what you've done.

I think UCA and Sam Houston in any other conference would still be a top 10 team in the country. Yes the bottom SLC teams are weak (Lamar and Nicholls) but McNeese, SFA, Sam, UCA can hang with anyone. SFA should have beaten Montana St, McNeese St beat a 6-3 Middle TN ST team, UCA hung with a SEC team and beat Sam and Sam took care of business last year in the playoffs and have dominated the last 5 games.

[katstrapper]

Why sam rather than Wofford? Why sam rather than Indiana State? Both teams will have the same record and play in a much tougher conference.

Sam Houston has been ranked in top 10 all season, even with two losses so if they win this weekend, they are in.. Started season #1, lost to Baylor and C Arkanasas and dropped to #9, and now have won 6 straight averaging 42 points a game. Kats are not just squeaking by, they are steam rolling opponent outscoring them 410-145 on the season thus far. I think everyone knows that if the C. Arkansas game were played again right now, Kats would probably roll . They are in a totally different gear right now. Peaking at the right time. You can sit and say "The Southland is weak" like everyone always says. But, make no mistake about it, Kats are turning some heads right now....

[401ks]

Dang...

Missed the vote this week because my internet was down.

:(

[Monarch History]

I see ODU as no more than number four (4) in any of the polls at this time. ODU's coach, Bobby Wilder, said although we are getting better we are still not where we need to be. Although we have obtained the mythical " eight (8) wins get you in", we play William & Mary and JMU the next two games. There's no love lost between the Tribe & Monarchs or JMU. Who knows what the outcomes will be. There is a huge difference between 8-1 and 8-3. I believe 8-3 gets us in but no home game; 8-2 gets us a home game, and 10-1 gets us a bye.

I know which one I like better!

[MTfan4life]

It's amazing how people still don't respect Sam Houston. Comparing them to Wofford???? Sam has just been dominating teams. Yes, they lost to UCA, but among like opponents, Sam is annihilating teams while UCA is just slightly roughing them up. Among like conference opponents, Sam has outscored by a combined 203 points, UCA has outscored by 46 points. You have to look beyond their "weak" schedule.

Look at what they've done the past six weeks. They have outscored their last six opponents 313-66. They haven't been playing high school teams either. SELA's next closest FCS losses were 20 to UCA, 17 to TSU and SDSU. SHSU beat SELA by 70. Lamar has kept every FCS loss within 14 with the exception of a 49 point loss to SHSU. Look at what they did to McNeese. McNeese has won 6 games, lost two games by a combined 2 points, and have a 35 point loss to Sam Houston. There's something more to this team than just having the probable potential of 7 wins.

Sam Houston is playing just as good or better right now than any other team in all of the FCS. Rationalizing that they won't be in the playoffs just because they'd only have 7 wins is stupid. Considering the crowd who is doing that, I guess I'm not too surprised. The committee looks for the 10 best at-large teams. I don't know what SHSU has done to prove they're not one of those teams.

[Appattk]

Sam Houston has been ranked in top 10 all season, even with two losses so if they win this weekend, they are in.. Started season #1, lost to Baylor and C Arkanasas and dropped to #9, and now have won 6 straight averaging 42 points a game. Kats are not just squeaking by, they are steam rolling opponent outscoring them 410-145 on the season thus far. I think everyone knows that if the C. Arkansas game were played again right now, Kats would probably roll . They are in a totally different gear right now. Peaking at the right time. You can sit and say "The Southland is weak" like everyone always says. But, make no mistake about it, Kats are turning some heads right now....

IMHO, SHSU is not only in the top 10.. but has a real chance at earning a SEED...

[Samalum'10]

It's amazing how people still don't respect Sam Houston. Comparing them to Wofford???? Sam has just been dominating teams. Yes, they lost to UCA, but among like opponents, Sam is annihilating teams while UCA is just slightly roughing them up. Among like conference opponents, Sam has outscored by a combined 203 points, UCA has outscored by 46 points. You have to look beyond their "weak" schedule.

Look at what they've done the past six weeks. They have outscored their last six opponents 313-66. They haven't been playing high school teams either. SELA's next closest FCS losses were 20 to UCA, 17 to TSU and SDSU. SHSU beat SELA by 70. Lamar has kept every FCS loss within 14 with the exception of a 49 point loss to SHSU. Look at what they did to McNeese. McNeese has won 6 games, lost two games by a combined 2 points, and have a 35 point loss to Sam Houston. There's something more to this team than just having the probable potential of 7 wins.

Sam Houston is playing just as good or better right now than any other team in all of the FCS. Rationalizing that they won't be in the playoffs just because they'd only have 7 wins is stupid. Considering the crowd who is doing that, I guess I'm not too surprised. The committee looks for the 10 best at-large teams. I don't know what SHSU has done to prove they're not one of those teams.
Solid post MTfan, I hope the selection committee agrees as well..

[Twentysix]

For more clarification there was not a single SHSU voter having them at #1. I'm not sure why everybody always wants to believe that there is a bunch of homer voting going on?

Unless it's a joke and is not distinguishable from finger pointing at this point.

It was mostly a joke, with a hint of seriousness.

[Sam_Kats]

MTfan - you beat me to it. And you pulled even more #'s than I was going to. I didn't realize McNeese had played everyone else so close...Lamar either. Excellent post. Although, the Kats have to win this week to even get a sniff. We'll see how it plays out.

[SDFS]

Here's mine. Critique as you will. Albany dropped like a brick from mine after ruining their playoff hopes.

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Old Dominion Monarchs
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: Stony Brook Seawolves
5: New Hampshire Wildcats
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: Montana State Bobcats
8: Georgia Southern Eagles
9: Illinois State Redbirds
10: James Madison Dukes
11: Central Arkansas Bears
12: Indiana State Sycamores
13: Appalachian State Mountaineers
14: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
15: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
16: Richmond Spiders
17: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
18: Wofford Terriers
19: Towson Tigers
20: Cal Poly Mustangs
21: Villanova Wildcats
22: Harvard Crimson
23: Sacramento State Hornets
24: Chattanooga Mocs
25: Colgate Raiders

Didn't Colgate lose to USD?

[Go...gate]

Appreciate how many of you have Colgate in your Top 25, but I'm not convinced we belong there without a defense.

[Horseshoe App]

That is the way to handle it. Lose with grace? It seems like every time GSU loses it is never your fault. It is the referees fault, not your own. Maybe if your kicker could kick the ball into a lake you might have won. Anyway, you lost so please move on and quit whining.

Some of you are dropping Georgia Southern almost 10 spots by losing to a good top 20 team by 3? And dare I say, a game full of questionable calls?

Geezus.

[Engineer86]

Appreciate how many of you have Colgate in your Top 25, but I'm not convinced we belong there without a defense.

You are quite offensive though!xlolx

[Seawolf97]

Here's mine. Albany did take a crazy drop in mine but I was high on them. I would love some feedback and be able to defend my positions :)

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: Stony Brook Seawolves
4: Old Dominion Monarchs
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Central Arkansas Bears
7: Sam Houston State Bearkats
8: James Madison Dukes
9: Georgia Southern Eagles
10: Wofford Terriers
11: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
12: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
13: Illinois State Redbirds
14: New Hampshire Wildcats
15: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
16: Appalachian State Mountaineers
17: Cal Poly Mustangs
18: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
19: Villanova Wildcats
20: Richmond Spiders
21: Indiana State Sycamores
22: Albany Great Danes
23: Towson Tigers
24: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
25: Wagner Seahawks

I appreciate the 3rd place selection but maybe a little high. Top 10 yes but there are some good teams out there who had tougher schedules. But as fan I'm happy for our guys.

[UNH72Plus]

Sam Houston has been ranked in top 10 all season, even with two losses so if they win this weekend, they are in.. Started season #1, lost to Baylor and C Arkanasas and dropped to #9, and now have won 6 straight averaging 42 points a game. Kats are not just squeaking by, they are steam rolling opponent outscoring them 410-145 on the season thus far. I think everyone knows that if the C. Arkansas game were played again right now, Kats would probably roll . They are in a totally different gear right now. Peaking at the right time. You can sit and say "The Southland is weak" like everyone always says. But, make no mistake about it, Kats are turning some heads right now....

In those six straight wins McNeese State is the only one with a winning record. The combined records of the other five teams is 8-27 and that includes a couple of wins against D-II teams. Even more telling is their "scoring defense" rankings. Of 121 teams Tx Southern is 115th, SELA is 111th, Nicholls is 104th, SFA is 102nd (and you only beat them by 8), and Lamar is 82nd. Not exactly defensive juggernauts.

[Sam_Kats]

Fair enough - let's get a comparison. Let’s use the unanimous #1 seeded Bison as an example. They have a loss to #19 Indy St (7-3) and the opponents they beat are a combined 22-43. Do you agree or not agree that they should be #1 right now? I sure do. Based on your logic, you don’t think they should because their wins are against crappy opponents.

What say you?

[bisonboone11]

Fair enough - let's get a comparison. Let’s use the unanimous #1 seeded Bison as an example. They have a loss to #19 Indy St (7-3) and the opponents they beat are a combined 22-43. Do you agree or not agree that they should be #1 right now? I sure do. Based on your logic, you don’t think they should because their wins are against crappy opponents.

What say you?
The problem with this comparison is that NDSU already has more DI wins than SHSU will get this year with 2 games left.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

The problem with this comparison is that NDSU already has more DI wins than SHSU will get this year with 2 games left.

ding. ding. ding. We have a winner!

[Sam_Kats]

Again - I got it. Was simply comparing opponent records, since that's the determining factor now. Wish we would have opened with Robert Morris or picked up Prairie View & hung 60 on both of them. Then it's a moot point.

Hopefully, the committee wants the best teams in the playoffs.

[GoAgs72]

They both lost, but I kept in Sac State at #25 instead of Albany because of strength of schedule and quality of play.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Again - I got it. Was simply comparing opponent records, since that's the determining factor now. Wish we would have opened with Robert Morris or picked up Prairie View & hung 60 on both of them. Then it's a moot point.

Hopefully, the committee wants the best teams in the playoffs.

Especially since one of them would have been a counter, unlike Incarnate Word.

[caribbeanhen]

Here's my poll:

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: Old Dominion Monarchs
5: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: Georgia Southern Eagles
8: James Madison Dukes
9: New Hampshire Wildcats
10: Stony Brook Seawolves
11: Central Arkansas Bears
12: Illinois State Redbirds
13: Wofford Terriers
14: Appalachian State Mountaineers
15: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
16: Richmond Spiders
17: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
18: Cal Poly Mustangs
19: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
20: Indiana State Sycamores
21: Towson Tigers
22: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
23: Samford Bulldogs
24: Villanova Wildcats
25: McNeese State Cowboys

solid but watch out for Stony

[Sam_Kats]

Especially since one of them would have been a counter, unlike Incarnate Word.

Yep - because the 56-7 score probably would have been the same.