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Go Apps
November 4th, 2012, 03:47 PM
Automatic Bids:
Patriot: Lehigh CAA: N Hampshire
Big Sky: N. Arizona Southland: C. Arkansas
Southern: ASU MVC: NDSU
MEAC: Bethune OVC: UT Martin
Big South: Stony Brook NEC: Wagner

At-large: Wofford, Illinois State, Sam Houston State, Richmond, Montana St, ODU, Cal Poly, E. Washington, South Dakota State, GSU

Seeds: ASU, N Arizona, NDSU, ODU, Lehigh
Last In: Cal Poly, Richmond
Last Out: Sac State, Villanova, Tenn State, E. Illinois


Bracket I:
Wagner vs Illinois State winner at No. 1 NDS U
C. Arkansas @ Montana State

Wofford vs Bethune winner at No. 4 ODU
N Hampshire @ No. 5 Lehigh

Bracket II:
Stoney Brook vs Richmond winner at No. 3 ASU
UT Martin @ GSU

Cal Poly vs South Dakota State winner at No. 2 N. Arizona
E Washington @ Sam Houston State

Jacked_Rabbit
November 4th, 2012, 03:49 PM
The name of this thread is "Just You Playoff Bracket"... What the?

DJKyR0
November 4th, 2012, 03:55 PM
I think you accidentally a word.

atlfcsfan
November 4th, 2012, 04:14 PM
James Madison???

Go Apps
November 4th, 2012, 05:43 PM
James Madison???

Hey give me your bracket

Appattk
November 4th, 2012, 05:45 PM
Automatic Bids:
Patriot: Lehigh
CAA: N Hampshire
Big Sky: N. Arizona
Southland: C. Arkansas
Southern: ASU
MVC: NDSU
MEAC: Bethune
OVC: UT Martin
Big South: Stony Brook
NEC: Wagner

At-large: ODU, JMU, EWU, Montana St, Sam Houston St, Georgia Southern, Wofford, Illinois State, Cal Poly, Richmond

Seeds: #1 NDSU, #2 ODU, #3 Montana St, #4 Sam Houston State, #5 Lehigh
Last In: Richmond, Cal Poly, Illinois State
Last Out: Villanova, South Dakota St, Indiana St, Samford

Week 1 Games
Bethune Cookman @ Cal Poly
UT Martin @ Illinois St
Wagner @ Stony Brook
Richmond @ Wofford

Bracket I:
Bethune Cookman @ Cal Poly winner at No. 1 North Dakota State
New Hampshire @ Eastern Washington

Richmond @ Wofford winner at #4 Sam Houston State
Northern Arizona @ No. 5 Lehigh

Bracket II:
UT Martin @ Illinois St winner at No. 3 Montana St
Central Arkansas @ Georgia Southern

Wagner @ Stony Brook winner at No. 2 Old Dominion
James Madison @ Appalachian State

LOCATION MAP: https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=...355ee79bb466dc

It's going to be interesting with what looks like 3 seeds out west... Geography is out the window this year!

Professor Chaos
November 4th, 2012, 05:49 PM
This is how I see the field it as it stands today:

Winner of Central Arkansas @ Cal Poly
at
(1) North Dakota St


Stony Brook
at
Appalachian St


winner of Wofford @ Bethune-Cookman
at
(4) Old Dominion


Northern Arizona
at
(5) Sam Houston St


Winner of Wagner @ South Dakota St
at
(2) Eastern Washington


Lehigh
at
James Madison


Winner of Tennessee-Martin @ Illinois St
at
(3) Montana St


New Hampshire
at
Georgia Southern

Last 4 in: Cal Poly, South Dakota St, Wofford, Illinois St
First 4 out: Indiana St, Richmond, Villanova, Towson

mmiller_34
November 4th, 2012, 07:56 PM
Winner of Wagner @ South Dakota St
at
(2) Eastern Washington

I like that alot. Eastern Washington would be extremely tough, but having a winnable home game first round would be amazing for the program.

Seawolf97
November 4th, 2012, 08:15 PM
Automatic Bids:
Patriot: Lehigh
CAA: N Hampshire
Big Sky: N. Arizona
Southland: C. Arkansas
Southern: ASU
MVC: NDSU
MEAC: Bethune
OVC: UT Martin
Big South: Stony Brook
NEC: Wagner

At-large: ODU, JMU, EWU, Montana St, Sam Houston St, Georgia Southern, Wofford, Illinois State, Cal Poly, Richmond

Seeds: #1 NDSU, #2 ODU, #3 Montana St, #4 Sam Houston State, #5 Lehigh
Last In: Richmond, Cal Poly, Illinois State
Last Out: Villanova, South Dakota St, Indiana St, Samford

Week 1 Games
Bethune Cookman @ Cal Poly
UT Martin @ Illinois St
Wagner @ Stony Brook
Richmond @ Wofford

Bracket I:
Bethune Cookman @ Cal Poly winner at No. 1 North Dakota State
New Hampshire @ Eastern Washington

Wagner @ Stony Brook winner at #4 Sam Houston State
Northern Arizona @ No. 5 Lehigh

Bracket II:
UT Martin @ Illinois St winner at No. 3 Montana St
Central Arkansas @ Georgia Southern

Wagner @ Stony Brook winner at No. 2 Old Dominion
James Madison @ Appalachian State

LOCATION MAP: https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=...355ee79bb466dc

It's going to be interesting with what looks like 3 seeds out west... Geography is out the window this year!

I think your bracket 1 is very close to how it will play out. Love to get a rematch against SHSU after last year. We are a much better team this year.

Go Apps
November 5th, 2012, 05:51 AM
Yes that is a good looking bracket

Sammy94
November 5th, 2012, 06:00 AM
I think your bracket 1 is very close to how it will play out. Love to get a rematch against SHSU after last year. We are a much better team this year.

Be careful what you wish for. We are a much better team also.

kalm
November 5th, 2012, 08:25 AM
Automatic Bids:
Patriot: Lehigh CAA: N Hampshire
Big Sky: N. Arizona Southland: C. Arkansas
Southern: ASU MVC: NDSU
MEAC: Bethune OVC: UT Martin
Big South: Stony Brook NEC: Wagner

At-large: Wofford, Illinois State, Sam Houston State, Richmond, Montana St, ODU, Cal Poly, E. Washington, South Dakota State, GSU

Seeds: NDSU, ODU, EWU, NAU, UNH
Last In: Cal Poly, Richmond
Last Out: Sac State, Villanova, Tenn State, E. Illinois


Bracket I:
Wagner vs Illinois State winner at No. 1 NDSU
C. Arkansas @ Montana State

Wofford vs Bethune winner at Lehigh
ASU @ No. 5 UNH

Bracket II:
Stoney Brook vs Richmond winner at No. 2 ODU
UT Martin @ GSU

Cal Poly vs South Dakota State winner at No. 4 E Washington
Wofford @ SHSU


Solid bracket. I made a couple of adjustments with the seeds and matchups.

Lehigh'98
November 5th, 2012, 09:29 AM
Solid bracket. I made a couple of adjustments with the seeds and matchups.

Missing Patriot Champ, no??

kalm
November 5th, 2012, 09:41 AM
Missing Patriot Champ, no??

Honest mistake...I swear!xlolx

Lehigh'98
November 5th, 2012, 09:56 AM
Honest mistake...I swear!xlolx

xeyebrowx

Edge316007
November 5th, 2012, 10:10 AM
Solid bracket. I made a couple of adjustments with the seeds and matchups.

An autobid conference champ ASU will not be on the road round 1.

Go Apps
November 5th, 2012, 12:11 PM
An autobid conference champ ASU will not be on the road round 1.

ASU will have a home game - at least one for sure!

MTfan4life
November 6th, 2012, 05:36 AM
1. North Dakota State
@Richmond
Colgate


@Montana State
Central Arkansas


5. Eastern Washington
Illinois State

@Bethune Cookman
New Hampshire

4. Sam Houston State


3. Northern Arizona
@South Dakota State
Tennessee Martin


@Georgia Southern
Towson


@Appalachian State
Stony Brook

@Lehigh
Wagner

2. Old Dominion

There are some wild things happening in this bracket so I'll explain a little bit here. I've been making my predictions based on projections with the exception of one homer pick (Montana winning the brawl), and the way the projections broke down this week had Colgate beating Lehigh and therefore taking the Patriot bid. Considering they've never really ever been a let down in the playoffs, I can't see the committee leaving out a 10-1 Lehigh.

With the CAA, the most recent tie-breaker procedures I could find was on a 2010 media guide and through that, the top 4 in the CAA (UNH, TU, JMU, & UR) all had one loss to each other and one loss to ODU. Therefore no losses to any other conference opponents. The next listed procedure was conference road wins, but in this scenario, they'd all have three. The final option is a coin flip and I have Towson winning that flip, which in my mind is done Friday Night Lights style, haha. From there, of the three remaining, JMU's resume looked weakest, so they were left out of the field.

Last four in: South Dakota State, Richmond, Illinois State, New Hampshire
Last four out: Cal Poly, James Madison, Indiana State, Wofford
Next teams out: McNeese State, Eastern Kentucky, Tennessee State, Albany, Citadel, Sacramento State, Eastern Illinois

Herder
November 6th, 2012, 06:44 AM
Not sure i understand why the CAA is being awarded with more teams than the other leagues. No dominant teams, and overrated as a league in 2011 & 2012. The fact that noone is separating themselves tells me to draw the at 3. With clear playoff teams from the Valley on your last 4 in, it shows that you are not calibrated at all. Pull up the gpi and try again.

WileECoyote06
November 6th, 2012, 07:19 AM
Wofford @ Richmond winner to 1. NDSU
Eastern Washington @ Sam Houston State

Albany @ Bethune-Cookman winner to 4. Georgia Southern
Northern Arizona @ 5. Lehigh

Eastern Illinois @ SDSU winner to 2. Montana State
UNH @ Stony Brook

TN - Martin @ Central Arkansas winner to 3. Old Dominion
Illinois State @ Appalachian State

Last In: E. Illinois, Richmond, Wofford
Last Out: Eastern Kentucky, Villanova, James Madison, Cal Poly, Indiana State
Next four out: Tennessee State, Southern Illinois, Samford, Sacramento State

I'm guessing that JMU loses it's last two, Villanova is upset by Delaware , Cal Poly loses to NAU and gets woofed, and I predict E. Illinois will upset UCA

MTfan4life
November 6th, 2012, 07:28 AM
Not sure i understand why the CAA is being awarded with more teams than the other leagues. No dominant teams, and overrated as a league in 2011 & 2012. The fact that noone is separating themselves tells me to draw the at 3. With clear playoff teams from the Valley on your last 4 in, it shows that you are not calibrated at all. Pull up the gpi and try again.

Pull up the GPI? Just like the committee? I think you're the one that needs to keep trying if you think the GPI has any effect on playoff selection. You say the CAA was overrated in 2011. CAA teams had a combined two home playoff games and were not blown out once. Only four teams in the entire playoffs won a road game and two were from the CAA. No dominant teams? Old Dominion is 8-1 and has beaten New Hampshire, Richmond, and Towson and boasts one of the best players in all of the FCS. Drop your obvious bias and take a look at things as a whole. Don't bother posting a bracket though. I know it would include at least 8 from the Valley.

Go Apps
November 6th, 2012, 07:48 AM
Wofford @ Richmond winner to 1. NDSU
Eastern Washington @ Sam Houston State

Albany @ Bethune-Cookman winner to 4. Georgia Southern
Northern Arizona @ 5. Lehigh

Eastern Illinois @ SDSU winner to 2. Montana State
UNH @ Stony Brook

TN - Martin @ Central Arkansas winner to 3. Old Dominion
Illinois State @ Appalachian State

Last In: E. Illinois, Richmond, Wofford
Last Out: Eastern Kentucky, Villanova, James Madison, Cal Poly, Indiana State
Next four out: Tennessee State, Southern Illinois, Samford, Sacramento State

I'm guessing that JMU loses it's last two, Villanova is upset by Delaware , Cal Poly loses to NAU and gets woofed, and I predict E. Illinois will upset UCA

Great analysis - the only change you may have to make is if ASU wins over Furman most scenarios will have them winning the autobid from the Socon and GSU plays Georgia in two weeks so they will lose again - I think the Socon AB gets a seed due to strength of conference and butts in seats

kalm
November 6th, 2012, 08:00 AM
Great analysis - the only change you may have to make is if ASU wins over Furman most scenarios will have them winning the autobid from the Socon and GSU plays Georgia in two weeks so they will lose again - I think the Socon AB gets a seed due to strength of conference and butts in seats

There will more than likely be too many quality 9-2's or better for a 3 loss SoCon to earn a seed.

Go Apps
November 6th, 2012, 08:06 AM
There will more than likely be too many quality 9-2's or better for a 3 loss SoCon to earn a seed.

disagree - there are too many conferences like yours that do not play schedules from top to bottom and they play more middle of the road and bottom feeder teams - this happened in the OVC, CAA, MVC and Big Sky the Socon plays a full schedule - these super conferences should not be rewarding for not producing a true champion!

NDSUstudent
November 6th, 2012, 08:09 AM
disagree - there are too many conferences like yours that do not play schedules from top to bottom and they play more middle of the road and bottom feeder teams - this happened in the OVC, CAA, MVC and Big Sky the Socon plays a full schedule - these super conferences should not be rewarding for not producing a true champion!

I am confused here. How did this happen in the MVC?

kalm
November 6th, 2012, 08:38 AM
disagree - there are too many conferences like yours that do not play schedules from top to bottom and they play more middle of the road and bottom feeder teams - this happened in the OVC, CAA, MVC and Big Sky the Socon plays a full schedule - these super conferences should not be rewarding for not producing a true champion!

Oh puhlease. The Southern is behind the MVFC and Big Sky in both Sagarin and GPI. ASU's and GSU's SOS 154 and 176 would rank them behind all but two MVFC teams and 3 out of 13 BSC teams. You've played two ranked teams just like we've played two ranked teams. And regarding seeds, are they based on "true conference champions" or resume's? Because your resume is very comparable to a number of teams who can finish the season with a better record.

Go Apps
November 6th, 2012, 08:38 AM
I am confused here. How did this happen in the MVC?

10 team conference - examples as they only face 8 of the 9 teams

SDak State did not play Illinois State - likely elimination game
Ind State avoided N. Iowa

both of these games would likely affect the entire playoff field

WrenFGun
November 6th, 2012, 08:40 AM
10 team conference - examples as they only face 8 of the 9 teams

SDak State did not play Illinois State - likely elimination game
Ind State avoided N. Iowa

both of these games would likely affect the entire playoff field

Northern Iowa? Really? Don't you think Indiana State would have preferred to drop say, SDak State or ISU-r?

NDSUstudent
November 6th, 2012, 08:46 AM
Northern Iowa? Really? Don't you think Indiana State would have preferred to drop say, SDak State or ISU-r?

Exactly, that is why I am confused. The winner will most likely be between NDSU and SDSU (this weekend):

NDSU will have played: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10 (cannot play 1)
SDSU will have played: 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 (cannot play 2)
ISU-r will have played: 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 (cannot play 3)
ISU-b will have played: 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10 (cannot play 4)

So let's say NDSU wins. They are not "true champions" because they don't play juggernaut, 9th in the conference, West Illi.?

Go Apps
November 6th, 2012, 08:57 AM
Only saying if you are going to load up so many teams - play the games!!! Whilethe MVC might be low on the list of games missed

Take a look at the CAA and the BIg Sky would clearly yield a different top 25 if they finished their schedules

Go Apps
November 6th, 2012, 08:59 AM
Unlike the FBS we don't need super conferences to help determine a champion - that is why we have playoffs?????

Engineer86
November 6th, 2012, 09:48 AM
Only saying if you are going to load up so many teams - play the games!!! Whilethe MVC might be low on the list of games missed

Take a look at the CAA and the BIg Sky would clearly yield a different top 25 if they finished their schedules

While the MVFC has only a few "tough" match ups missed. Your point holds true for a team like NAU who missed several of the top BSC teams this year.

kalm
November 6th, 2012, 09:53 AM
Only saying if you are going to load up so many teams - play the games!!! Whilethe MVC might be low on the list of games missed

Take a look at the CAA and the BIg Sky would clearly yield a different top 25 if they finished their schedules

Yeah, at 12-2, we'd really be a lock for a seed. :)

I get what you're saying but you need to take a closer look. The only top 5 BSC team we didn't play is NAU. We also didn't have the luxury of playing ISU and UNC. So our schedule consisted of 3 very solid, playoff caliber teams, two of which have been ranked in the top 10, and 3 of which (Montana, UND, and SUU) are decent, .500ish teams. Sounds eerily similar to a SoCon schedule. I'm sure the same could be said for a couple of schools in both the MVFC and CAA.

Professor Chaos
November 6th, 2012, 09:56 AM
Yeah, at 12-2, we'd really be a lock for a seed. :)

I get what you're saying but you need to take a closer look. The only top 5 BSC team we didn't play is NAU. We also didn't have the luxury of playing ISU and UNC. So our schedule consisted of 3 very solid, playoff caliber teams, two of which have been ranked in the top 10, and 3 of which (Montana, UND, and SUU) are decent, .500ish teams. Sounds eerily similar to a SoCon schedule. I'm sure the same could be said for a couple of schools in both the MVFC and CAA.
EWU has nothing to apologize for, they got the toughest schedule of the Big Sky's big 4. NAU only plays 1 of the other top 4 teams (including Sac St in that category). Cal Poly and MSU only play 2.

WileECoyote06
November 6th, 2012, 10:02 AM
Great analysis - the only change you may have to make is if ASU wins over Furman most scenarios will have them winning the autobid from the Socon and GSU plays Georgia in two weeks so they will lose again - I think the Socon AB gets a seed due to strength of conference and butts in seats

Yeah I'm still kind of on the fence with how to treat Georgia Southern. I almost switched Sam Houston into the 4 spot. It's difficult if Lehigh is undefeated because in my view they will earn a seed; but you can't grant them four or higher. If Lehigh loses this week to Colgate, that would actually help sort out the bracket a little bit.

Also, even though Wagner beat Albany's butt, they already have a NEC loss, and I think they'll drop one more game.

LeeshaJo
November 6th, 2012, 10:05 AM
I have an honest question (not trying to stir the pot) but what if all the stars align for SDSU the next two weeks and they defeat NDSU and USD and go 9-2 on the season. Outright MVFC champions. NDSU ends up at 9-2 defeating Ill State the next weekend. What does that scenario do to seeds etc.

WileECoyote06
November 6th, 2012, 10:12 AM
I have an honest question (not trying to stir the pot) but what if all the stars align for SDSU the next two weeks and they defeat NDSU and USD and go 9-2 on the season. Outright MVFC champions. NDSU ends up at 9-2 defeating Ill State the next weekend. What does that scenario do to seeds etc.

If SDSU defeats NDSU and finishes 9-2 they'd have a strong case to be a top two seed. Realistically they are too far behind the other top teams. I can't see them surpassing Montana State, Sam Houston, and/or Eastern Washington.

Now if you really want to mess stuff up, let's have Illinois State defeat NDSU. xblehx

kalm
November 6th, 2012, 10:12 AM
I have an honest question (not trying to stir the pot) but what if all the stars align for SDSU the next two weeks and they defeat NDSU and USD and go 9-2 on the season. Outright MVFC champions. NDSU ends up at 9-2 defeating Ill State the next weekend. What does that scenario do to seeds etc.

I think you're seeded along with NDSU provided they beat ISU.