AGS Poll Results - Week 9

[AGSPoll]

1 North Dakota State Bison 2331 (67)
2 Georgia Southern Eagles 2247 (26)
3 Montana State Bobcats 1995
4 Wofford Terriers 1986
5 Old Dominion Monarchs 1806
6 Eastern Washington Eagles 1797
7 Stony Brook Seawolves 1766
8 Sam Houston State Bearkats 1746
9 Cal Poly Mustangs 1509
10 James Madison Dukes 1472
11 Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 1412
12 New Hampshire Wildcats 1364
13 Lehigh Mountain Hawks 1286
14 Central Arkansas Bears 1140
15 Indiana State Sycamores 1109
16 Appalachian State Mountaineers 915
17 Albany Great Danes 899
18 Illinois State Redbirds 832
19 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 684
20 Richmond Spiders 534
21 Towson Tigers 309
22 Tennessee State Tigers 300
23 Sacramento State Hornets 299
24 Villanova Wildcats 286
25 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 221


The Most Significant Win Goes To:
Sacramento State Hornets

Most Significant Loss:
Eastern Washington Eagles

26 Harvard Crimson 124
27 Southern Illinois Salukis 123
28 Eastern Illinois Panthers 75
29 Eastern Kentucky Colonels 60
30 Bethune-Cookman Wildcats 59
31 Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens 37
32 Youngstown State Penguins 21
33 Drake Bulldogs 19
34 Northern Colorado Bears 15
35T The Citadel Bulldogs 14
35T McNeese State Cowboys 14
35T Jacksonville State Gamecocks 14
38 Chattanooga Mocs 13
39 Southern Utah Thunderbirds 12
40 Northern Iowa Panthers 10

[LakesBison]

YEAHHH BUDDY!! back where NDSU belongs!!

the below is why FCS cant be taken seriously.

19 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 684
20 Richmond Spiders 534
21 Towson Tigers 309
22 Tennessee State Tigers 300
23 Sacramento State Hornets 299
24 Villanova Wildcats 286
25 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 221


WOW those are some horrible teams.

[Twentysix]

What the ****: 34 Northern Colorado Bears 15

1-6 with their only DI win over 0-7 Isu-potato.

How did this vote get through the AGS strainer?

[I-16Bandit]

YEAHHH BUDDY!! back where NDSU belongs!!

Until an unranked opponent wanders into the Fargo Done...

[LakesBison]

yes, those 15 votes were for North Dakota State.

just misclicked. change it.

HAHAHA..


I BANDIT THEY #15th now!

[FargoBison]

Northern Colorado getting votes? I'm guessing they were trying to vote for NAU.

[Walkon79]

YEAHHH BUDDY!! back where NDSU belongs!!

the below is why FCS cant be taken seriously.

19 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 684
20 Richmond Spiders 534
21 Towson Tigers 309
22 Tennessee State Tigers 300
23 Sacramento State Hornets 299
24 Villanova Wildcats 286
25 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 221


WOW those are some horrible teams.

SDSU and Sac State are legit playoff contenders as of now. Not sure I would lump them in with the rest.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

YEAHHH BUDDY!! back where NDSU belongs!!

the below is why FCS cant be taken seriously.

19 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 684
20 Richmond Spiders 534
21 Towson Tigers 309
22 Tennessee State Tigers 300
23 Sacramento State Hornets 299
24 Villanova Wildcats 286
25 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 221


WOW those are some horrible teams.

You think South Dakota State is a horrible team?xcrazyx

[FargoBison]

YEAHHH BUDDY!! back where NDSU belongs!!

the below is why FCS cant be taken seriously.

19 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 684
20 Richmond Spiders 534
21 Towson Tigers 309
22 Tennessee State Tigers 300
23 Sacramento State Hornets 299
24 Villanova Wildcats 286
25 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 221


WOW those are some horrible teams.

Explain please.....

[IBleedYellow]

Is that lakes showing hate and discontent for a rival of ours? I think so.

[89rabbit]

YEAHHH BUDDY!! back where NDSU belongs!!

the below is why FCS cant be taken seriously.

19 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 684
20 Richmond Spiders 534
21 Towson Tigers 309
22 Tennessee State Tigers 300
23 Sacramento State Hornets 299
24 Villanova Wildcats 286
25 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 221


WOW those are some horrible teams.


Lets see, #19 South Dakota State Jackrabbits beat Indiana State in Terre Haute, IN. SDSU 24 - ISU 10. How did the Bison do against them in Fargo, ND? See you in a couple of weeks. xthumbsupx

[BEAR]

From #14 to #14.

[Professor Chaos]

What the ****: 34 Northern Colorado Bears 15

1-6 with their only DI win over 0-7 Isu-potato.

How did this vote get through the AGS strainer?
Guessing that was a #10 vote for Northern Arizona.

[bostonspider]

YEAHHH BUDDY!! back where NDSU belongs!!

the below is why FCS cant be taken seriously.

19 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 684
20 Richmond Spiders 534
21 Towson Tigers 309
22 Tennessee State Tigers 300
23 Sacramento State Hornets 299
24 Villanova Wildcats 286
25 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 221


WOW those are some horrible teams.

How can you be so sure that Richmond at 5-3 is a horrible team? In 2008, Richmond had just lost to JMU to drop top 4-3, and it was looking rough. They then reeled off 9 straight victories to win the national title. Do not be too quick judge teams.

[IBleedYellow]

Lets see, #19 South Dakota State Jackrabbits beat Indiana State in Terre Haute, IN. SDSU 24 - ISU 10. How did the Bison do against them in Fargo, ND? Hey how did NDSU do against Youngstown State? We beat them 41 -28. See you in a couple of weeks. xthumbsupx

Well, if you want to get all technical. We beat YSU 48-7

[89rabbit]

Well, if you want to get all technical. We beat YSU 48-7

Your right I forgot you killed them too.

[Jacked_Rabbit]

Lets see, #19 South Dakota State Jackrabbits beat Indiana State in Terre Haute, IN. SDSU 24 - ISU 10. How did the Bison do against them in Fargo, ND? Hey how did NDSU do against Youngstown State? We beat them 41 -28. See you in a couple of weeks. xthumbsupx

And we were up 41-7 before letting off the throttle, which was similar to NDSU's score against them... I hope the rest of NDSU's team is overlooking SDSU as much as Lakes is, but I unfortunately don't think this is the case. That dude is just delusional. The Bison are looking VERY beatable right now - can't wait to see them in 12 more days!

[JSUBison]

I don't understand how people think SUU's win was the most significant. What does winning that game do for SUU? I understand the other end of it for EWU being a significant loss. I had Sac State as the most significant, as they were borderline playoff team, and now stand a chance of making the playoffs if they win their next two as well, which would put them at 8-3 with a FBS win.

[TheRevSFA]

My poll. Critique as you will

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: Wofford Terriers
5: Stony Brook Seawolves
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: Old Dominion Monarchs
8: Cal Poly Mustangs
9: James Madison Dukes
10: Central Arkansas Bears
11: Sam Houston State Bearkats
12: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
15: Albany Great Danes
16: Indiana State Sycamores
17: Appalachian State Mountaineers
18: Illinois State Redbirds
19: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
20: Richmond Spiders
21: Villanova Wildcats
22: Towson Tigers
23: Tennessee State Tigers
24: Harvard Crimson
25: Sacramento State Hornets

[Twentysix]

I don't understand how people think SUU's win was the most significant. What does winning that game do for SUU? I understand the other end of it for EWU being a significant loss. I had Sac State as the most significant, as they were borderline playoff team, and now stand a chance of making the playoffs if they win their next two as well, which would put them at 8-3 with a FBS win.

I thought JMU's win was most significant, in a bad way. It made me drop them a lot.. I had so much faith in JMU at the beginning of the year..

[No_Skill]

Your right I forgot you killed them too.

We killed them deader...

[IBleedYellow]

And we were up 41-7 before letting off the trottle, which was similar to NDSU's score against them... I hope the rest of NDSU's team is overlooking SDSU as much as Lakes is, but I unfortunately don't think this is the case. That dude is just delusional. The Bison are looking VERY beatable right now - can't wait to see them in 12 more days!

Our offense is our weak link. If you believe that you're going to beat our defense, well I have a $1000 investment plan that will turn into $10,000 in a week ;)

[TheRevSFA]

We killed them deader...


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zadjO5JZroI/Saa7EH1JWzI/AAAAAAAAAMU/XfsufTAVYz4/s320/black+hammer.jpg

[Jacked_Rabbit]

I don't understand how people think SUU's win was the most significant. What does winning that game do for SUU? I understand the other end of it for EWU being a significant loss. I had Sac State as the most significant, as they were borderline playoff team, and now stand a chance of making the playoffs if they win their next two as well, which would put them at 8-3 with a FBS win.

I second this.

[Professor Chaos]

You think South Dakota State is a horrible team?xcrazyx

Lets see, #19 South Dakota State Jackrabbits beat Indiana State in Terre Haute, IN. SDSU 24 - ISU 10. How did the Bison do against them in Fargo, ND? See you in a couple of weeks. xthumbsupx

How can you be so sure that Richmond at 5-3 is a horrible team? In 2008, Richmond had just lost to JMU to drop top 4-3, and it was looking rough. They then reeled off 9 straight victories to win the national title. Do not be too quick judge teams.

And we were up 41-7 before letting off the throttle, which was similar to NDSU's score against them... I hope the rest of NDSU's team is overlooking SDSU as much as Lakes is, but I unfortunately don't think this is the case. That dude is just delusional. The Bison are looking VERY beatable right now - can't wait to see them in 12 more days!
Let me introduce you all to Lakesbison. This is what he does. If you are expecting a cogent argument you will be disappointed.

[Jacked_Rabbit]

Our offense is our weak link. If you believe that you're going to beat our defense, well I have a $1000 investment plan that will turn into $10,000 in a week ;)

Just glad we get to settle this on the field. Should be fun!

[Jacked_Rabbit]

Let me introduce you all to Lakesbison. This is what he does. If you are expecting a cogent argument you will be disappointed.

And he does it all from his mom's basement... That is the impressive thing.

[HensRock]

SDSU and Sac State are legit playoff contenders as of now. Not sure I would lump them in with the rest.

I don't think any of those have been eliminated from playoff contention yet. Not that playoff eligibility should be a prerequisite for being ranked. I see them as two separate things.

Lakes, who would you put in these 7 teams' places?

[Twentysix]

I don't think any of those have been eliminated from playoff contention yet. Not that playoff eligibility should be a prerequisite for being ranked. I see them as two separate things.

Lakes, who would you put in these 7 teams' places?

I dont think he is saying they are undeserving of those spots. I think he is saying below the top 15 the FCS is ****.

[89rabbit]

Let me introduce you all to Lakesbison. This is what he does. If you are expecting a cogent argument you will be disappointed.


You guys have to be sooooo proud calling Lakesbison and MplsBison your own. xsmiley_wix xlolx

[Nickels]

From #14 to #14.
Yeah, AGS pollsters are so knowledgeable about the SLC aren't they. xlolx

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I don't understand how people think SUU's win was the most significant. What does winning that game do for SUU? I understand the other end of it for EWU being a significant loss. I had Sac State as the most significant, as they were borderline playoff team, and now stand a chance of making the playoffs if they win their next two as well, which would put them at 8-3 with a FBS win.

You are correct. I copied that over wrong. For some reason Gdocs was jumping around with the cells this morning and that should have been:

Sacramento State Hornets

I changed it to reflect that. Sorry bout that.

[Twentysix]

Yeah, AGS pollsters are so knowledgeable about the SLC aren't they. xlolx

Win a championship and give them a reason to be. ;)

[TheRevSFA]

Yeah, AGS pollsters are so knowledgeable about the SLC aren't they. xlolx

You think TSN or the coaches poll is more accurate? UCA should be ahead of you in the polls since they beat you. Just sayin

[SpiritCymbal]

I don't understand how people think SUU's win was the most significant. What does winning that game do for SUU? I understand the other end of it for EWU being a significant loss.

Agreed. The "significant win/loss" thing is simply the winners and losers of the highest ranked upset each week. Kinda pointless.

[crusader11]

Agreed. The "significant win/loss" thing is simply the winners and losers of the highest ranked upset each week. Kinda pointless.

Agree with this, as well.

I had Sac State with the most significant win.

Could argue that SUU's win over EWU gave EWU the most significant loss.

[Twentysix]

Agreed. The "significant win/loss" thing is simply the winners and losers of the highest ranked upset each week. Kinda pointless.


I usually do the game(W/L) that caused the most movement in my poll.

[crusader11]

Oh, any my 25 for those who feel like looking at another one...

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: Wofford Terriers
5: Old Dominion Monarchs
6: Stony Brook Seawolves
7: New Hampshire Wildcats
8: Cal Poly Mustangs
9: Montana State Bobcats
10: Indiana State Sycamores
11: Sam Houston State Bearkats
12: James Madison Dukes
13: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
14: Appalachian State Mountaineers
15: Illinois State Redbirds
16: Albany Great Danes
17: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
18: Richmond Spiders
19: Central Arkansas Bears
20: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
21: Sacramento State Hornets
22: Harvard Crimson
23: Towson Tigers
24: Villanova Wildcats
25: The Citadel Bulldogs

[WrenFGun]

So, uh, why is EWU below Montana State? Because they lost more recently?

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Yeah, AGS pollsters are so knowledgeable about the SLC aren't they. xlolx

Really? No poll out there last year had SHSU getting votes and being ranked before AGS did that I can remember and the fact that they didn't jump up means that a lot of people don't just slot vote and move things around because a team ahead lost. It means they probably think about and come up with their own conclusion as to whether or not the 13 above them are better and would beat them on a neutral field.

[IBleedYellow]

You guys have to be sooooo proud calling Lakesbison and MplsBison your own. xsmiley_wix xlolx

This new and improved Lakes isn't that bad. He's still just as crazy, but not annoying.

MplsBison has never met ANY Bison fans. He doesn't exist as far as we're concerned.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

My poll is almost identical except I keep forgetting about Tennessee State.

[BisonBabe]

You guys have to be sooooo proud calling Lakesbison and MplsBison your own. xsmiley_wix xlolx

I will claim one of the above but not both.

[89rabbit]

This new and improved Lakes isn't that bad. He's still just as crazy, but not annoying.

MplsBison has never met ANY Bison fans. He doesn't exist as far as we're concerned.


Speak for yourself. xeyebrowx

[NoDak 4 Ever]

This new and improved Lakes isn't that bad. He's still just as crazy, but not annoying.

MplsBison has never met ANY Bison fans. He doesn't exist as far as we're concerned.

They are both annoying. Annoying in vastly different ways but still annoying.

[Professor Chaos]

You guys have to be sooooo proud calling Lakesbison and MplsBison your own. xsmiley_wix xlolx
There's little we can do about it. I stopped a long time ago trying to "rehab" Lakes. I just take it for what it's worth now which is entertainment (at least for me it is). I trust that you guys, meaning fans of other teams, are smart enough to differentiate fans like Lakes and Mpls from the rest of the NDSU fan base.

[BEAR]

I was just trying to cause some trouble. xlolx Looks like it worked.

I agree Sam is ahead of UCA. They have become a team again which they weren't earlier on in the year when they played UCA.

I can see all those teams ranked ahead of UCA no problem. UCA is a top 15 team. A little stronger on defense and they are top 10. But not now.

[URMite]

What the ****: 34 Northern Colorado Bears 15

1-6 with their only DI win over 0-7 Isu-potato.

How did this vote get through the AGS strainer?

I hate this too. I want to use wins over teams getting a vote in this poll as quality wins but...

And were there >40 teams getting votes this week?

[IBleedYellow]

They are both annoying. Annoying in vastly different ways but still annoying.

I find Lake entertaining. (Lakes, don't read into this as "I should keep doing my ****ty antics")

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

My attempt

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: Stony Brook Seawolves
5: Wofford Terriers
6: Old Dominion Monarchs
7: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
8: Eastern Washington Eagles
9: Sam Houston State Bearkats
10: New Hampshire Wildcats
11: Cal Poly Mustangs
12: Indiana State Sycamores
13: Central Arkansas Bears
14: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
15: James Madison Dukes
16: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
17: Albany Great Danes
18: Appalachian State Mountaineers
19: Richmond Spiders
20: Tennessee State Tigers
21: Harvard Crimson
22: Towson Tigers
23: Colgate Raiders
24: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
25: Sacramento State Hornets

[ursus arctos horribilis]

What the ****: 34 Northern Colorado Bears 15

1-6 with their only DI win over 0-7 Isu-potato.

How did this vote get through the AGS strainer?

Seriously dude anytime you want to step forward and check over a hundred ballots and make sure that not one mistake gets by then let me know and we'll set you up with several hours of work on a Sunday to check 2500 names and make sure that not a single mistake is made.

fwiw, we are pretty short handed since a few of our poll guys are dealing with prep for the Hurricane and one of them is a firefighter in that area that has much bigger fish to fry right now.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

btw, we can safely assume that NAU should have 1427 points or whatever and Northern Colorado should not have any because one guy voted them at #11 which very likely a vote for NAU.

[Jacked_Rabbit]

Seriously dude anytime you want to step forward and check over a hundred ballots and make sure that not one mistake gets by then let me know and we'll set you up with several hours of work on a Sunday to check 2500 names and make sure that not a single mistake is made.

fwiw, we are pretty short handed since a few of our poll guys are dealing with prep for the Hurricane and one of them is a firefighter in that area that has much bigger fish to fry right now.

True. Who cares, the few number of mistakes aren't going to significantly alter the results of the poll... ***** happens.

[LehighU11]

Here's my shot at it. The BSC has been kind of hard to judge since most of the top teams have yet to play/will not play each other.

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Indiana State Sycamores
4: Stony Brook Seawolves
5: Old Dominion Monarchs
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: Wofford Terriers
8: Montana State Bobcats
9: New Hampshire Wildcats
10: Sam Houston State Bearkats
11: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
12: James Madison Dukes
13: Cal Poly Mustangs
14: Illinois State Redbirds
15: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
16: Central Arkansas Bears
17: Richmond Spiders
18: Albany Great Danes
19: Appalachian State Mountaineers
20: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
21: Sacramento State Hornets
22: Southern Illinois Salukis
23: Towson Tigers
24: Villanova Wildcats
25: Tennessee State Tigers

[BISON Thunder]

I usually do the game(W/L) that caused the most movement in my poll.

So you mean like that one item in the buffet line at 2:30 in the morning after a night of drinkin' that swishes around in your gut til the next evening?

[GeauxLions94]

Here's mine ... it's right.

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: Wofford Terriers
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: James Madison Dukes
8: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
9: Stony Brook Seawolves
10: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
11: Old Dominion Monarchs
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: Indiana State Sycamores
15: Illinois State Redbirds
16: Cal Poly Mustangs
17: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
18: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
19: Appalachian State Mountaineers
20: Albany Great Danes
21: Eastern Illinois Panthers
22: Sacramento State Hornets
23: Richmond Spiders
24: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
25: Villanova Wildcats

[DJKyR0]

You think South Dakota State is a horrible team?xcrazyx

Sorry I'm late to the party, but here's the thing - Lakes assumes that any team he doesn't recognize by name recognition at the drop of a hat (Montana, Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, basically schools that have some FCS history and a bit of national recognition) are totally garbage programs that indicate that NDSU is swimming in the gutter of D-I football. His bag is that there are basically ten or so "good" programs in the FCS and that everybody else is basically playing D-II ball. Considering ESPN airtime is more important to him than winning the championship was (last year's Lehigh game was "must win" for the sake of getting on TV, go figure a playoff game being must-win, right?), you can start to get an idea of where his frame of mind lies.

I had a similar situation a few weeks ago when discussing NDSU and the FCS with a client at work. Guy seemed pretty knowledgeable about NDSU, but said he didn't follow anyone in the FCS because it's cupcake football where, as he put it, one good player basically guarantees a national championship (his lone resource being Armanti Edwards). I countered saying that about eight dudes from the '08 NDSU team got shots in the NFL and we went 6-5, which totally blew his mind. I mentioned how App State had a guy drafted in the second round last year and was a one-and-done in the playoffs, and he asked how that could happen when there's such a good player on the team. My response was, in a nutshell, that he was underselling the parity in the subdivision and moreover that football isn't a game that's won by one player.

Lakes, you're my boy, but your perception of the FCS is totally whack.

[Sammy94]

It means they probably think about and come up with their own conclusion as to whether or not the 13 above them are better and would beat them on a neutral field.

This is how it should be.

But lots of voters base their votes on wins and losses only. This is why Rev thinks UCA should be ranked higher than SHSU.


Sam is leagues above even UCA the way they are playing right now.

UCA Bear and most people understand that AGS happens and take that into account when doing their vote. The AGS poll IMO is the most accurate but as shown above not perfect.

[dbackjon]

YEAHHH BUDDY!! back where NDSU belongs!!

the below is why FCS cant be taken seriously.

19 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 684
20 Richmond Spiders 534
21 Towson Tigers 309
22 Tennessee State Tigers 300
23 Sacramento State Hornets 299
24 Villanova Wildcats 286
25 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 221


WOW those are some horrible teams.

This comment is why YOU can't be taken seriously.

[gotts]

This comment is why YOU can't be taken seriously.

No disrespect jon, but this is far from the straw that broke the camel's back :)

[dbackjon]

No disrespect jon, but this is far from the straw that broke the camel's back :)

LMAO I know - it should be this is reason #9,756 why you can't be taken seriously...

[deez_na]

Of course NDSU is beatable but the only games we have looked beatable is when we make mistakes which Jenson rarely ever does. If it wasn't for him having a terrible game against Ind. St. we would be undefeated still but i like having a loss under the belt. I feel it takes more pressure off. Our defense is still dominating games.

[ngineer]

Is number in parentheses the first place votes? If so, then there is an error, as I cast a vote for MSU for first place, which I don't see counted.

[Nickels]

You think TSN or the coaches poll is more accurate? UCA should be ahead of you in the polls since they beat you. Just sayin

Then you should be ahead of them in polls and Indiana State should be ahead of NDSU. Just sayin.


The same teams Sam has blown-out, UCA has struggled with.

[TheRevSFA]

Then you should be ahead of them in polls and Indiana State should be ahead of NDSU. Just sayin.


The same teams Sam has blown-out, UCA has struggled with.

True. I retract my argument.

[BEAR]

Then you should be ahead of them in polls and Indiana State should be ahead of NDSU. Just sayin.


The same teams Sam has blown-out, UCA has struggled with.

UCA hasn't struggled with teams..they've struggled with themselves. Big difference. No run game for UCA and a porous defense. Two comeback victories against Sam and McNeese. One near comeback on 3 drives against SFA in a monsoon. Nope the Bears opponents aren't causing the struggle...it's the team itself. But on the bright side, they NEVER give up. Sam is expected this year to blow teams out. UCA lost ALOT of talent, especially at QB and on defense, to even be in this picture. Now imagine UCA getting a run game and solidifying their defense. what ifs...what ifs...xlolx

[andy7171]

My poll. Critique as you will

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: Wofford Terriers
5: Stony Brook Seawolves
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: Old Dominion Monarchs
8: Cal Poly Mustangs
9: James Madison Dukes
10: Central Arkansas Bears
11: Sam Houston State Bearkats
12: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
15: Albany Great Danes
16: Indiana State Sycamores
17: Appalachian State Mountaineers
18: Illinois State Redbirds
19: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
20: Richmond Spiders
21: Villanova Wildcats
22: Towson Tigers
23: Tennessee State Tigers
24: Harvard Crimson
25: Sacramento State Hornets

I can ignore lakes comment about saying Towson is a horrible team by reason of insanity. But why rank Nova above Towson, one day after Towson destroyed the Wildcats? Slotting is a bad way of ranking teams. You should be ashamed.

[WileECoyote06]

Pretty good this week. The complaints I had about last weeks poll seem to have corrected themselves.

Good job guys!

[BisonCM]

Is number in parentheses the first place votes? If so, then there is an error, as I cast a vote for MSU for first place, which I don't see counted.

I believe they don't list the first place vote if there is only one first place vote for any given team on that weeks poll.

[TheRevSFA]

I can ignore lakes comment about saying Towson is a horrible team by reason of insanity. But why rank Nova above Towson, one day after Towson destroyed the Wildcats? Slotting is a bad way of ranking teams. You should be ashamed.

Good catch. I didn't catch it when I went back over.

But ashamed? Nah. **** happens. Get over it.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Is number in parentheses the first place votes? If so, then there is an error, as I cast a vote for MSU for first place, which I don't see counted.

If there is only one first place vote for a team and it is not a homer vote it is counted and given the full weight but single first place votes are not listed as it takes at least two. There was one other team receiving a #1 vote as well.

I'm covering for agspoll for the time being and I do not remember the specifics but this was discussed a few weeks back on one of the threads so if interested maybe look back through them as I'm not gonna be a good source for the "why?" question that is coming next...

[ngineer]

If there is only one first place vote for a team and it is not a homer vote it is counted and given the full weight but single first place votes are not listed as it takes at least two. There was one other team receiving a #1 vote as well.

I'm covering for agspoll for the time being and I do not remember the specifics but this was discussed a few weeks back on one of the threads so if interested maybe look back through them as I'm not gonna be a good source for the "why?" question that is coming next...

Thanks for the explanation. I thought, though, from what I read on some of the threads that i was not the only one who voted for the Bobcats. No big deal from my perspective as NDSU got my #2 and GSU #3. They're all interchangeable to me right now.

[JMUNJ08]

I mean, I like my poll alot. After these NDSU guys keep chalking up their team, will be hard to keep them there.....

Give yo feedback!

#SandySux

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Stony Brook Seawolves
4: Wofford Terriers
5: Montana State Bobcats
6: Old Dominion Monarchs
7: Cal Poly Mustangs
8: Eastern Washington Eagles
9: Central Arkansas Bears
10: Sam Houston State Bearkats
11: James Madison Dukes
12: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
13: Albany Great Danes
14: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
15: Indiana State Sycamores
16: New Hampshire Wildcats
17: Tennessee State Tigers
18: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
19: Illinois State Redbirds
20: Villanova Wildcats
21: Richmond Spiders
22: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
23: Appalachian State Mountaineers
24: Sacramento State Hornets
25: Towson Tigers

[Nickels]

UCA hasn't struggled with teams..they've struggled with themselves. Big difference. No run game for UCA and a porous defense. Two comeback victories against Sam and McNeese. One near comeback on 3 drives against SFA in a monsoon. Nope the Bears opponents aren't causing the struggle...it's the team itself. But on the bright side, they NEVER give up. Sam is expected this year to blow teams out. UCA lost ALOT of talent, especially at QB and on defense, to even be in this picture. Now imagine UCA getting a run game and solidifying their defense. what ifs...what ifs...xlolx
Believe me I'm in no way insulting the Bears (or the Jacks for that matter), if you guys leave the conference it will be nearly unwatchable for me. But I'm just saying Sam has looked sharper against common opponents than UCA. I always get a little cynical about the AGS poll because the SLC teams are always lower than most of the other polls.

ex. How is SFA not in the top 40 but UNC, UNI & Southern Utah are? SFA would spank these teams.

[TheRevSFA]

Believe me I'm in no way insulting the Bears (or the Jacks for that matter), if you guys leave the conference it will be nearly unwatchable for me. But I'm just saying Sam has looked sharper against common opponents than UCA. I always get a little cynical about the AGS poll because the SLC teams are always lower than most of the other polls.

ex. How is SFA not in the top 40 but UNC, UNI & Southern Utah are? SFA would spank these teams.

Dude..I don't even think we'd spank those teams...all they'd have to do is put 3 players next to a receiver and our QB would just give them the ball :D

[LakesBison]

Is it Saturday Yet ?? This is awesome.....good valid points all around. :)

[BisonBacker]

I can ignore lakes comment about saying Towson is a horrible team by reason of insanity. But why rank Nova above Towson, one day after Towson destroyed the Wildcats? Slotting is a bad way of ranking teams. You should be ashamed.

Nova is still 6-3 while Towson is 4-4. Just saying.

[andy7171]

I mean, I like my poll alot. After these NDSU guys keep chalking up their team, will be hard to keep them there.....

Give yo feedback!

#SandySux

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Stony Brook Seawolves
4: Wofford Terriers
5: Montana State Bobcats
6: Old Dominion Monarchs
7: Cal Poly Mustangs
8: Eastern Washington Eagles
9: Central Arkansas Bears
10: Sam Houston State Bearkats
11: James Madison Dukes
12: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
13: Albany Great Danes
14: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
15: Indiana State Sycamores
16: New Hampshire Wildcats
17: Tennessee State Tigers
18: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
19: Illinois State Redbirds
20: Villanova Wildcats
21: Richmond Spiders
22: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
23: Appalachian State Mountaineers
24: Sacramento State Hornets
25: Towson Tigers
Again with Nova over Towson. We soundly defeated them on their own homecoming.

Towson's losses, 7-1 Kent State, 7-1 F'ing LSU, #6 ODU and #11 JMU on your own ballot. Leaves us at 4-2 in the FCS.

SMFH

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Is it Saturday Yet ?? This is awesome.....good valid points all around. :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnkefjCES-4

[crusader11]

Again with Nova over Towson. We soundly defeated them on their own homecoming.

Towson's losses, 7-1 Kent State, 7-1 F'ing LSU, #6 ODU and #11 JMU on your own ballot. Leaves us at 4-2 in the FCS.

SMFH

I had Towson #23, Nova #24, FWIW.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Can't believe we got 10pts. Sort of wonder if this was a miss vote for NAU as well. Overall poll looks pretty good.

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[JMUNJ08]

Again with Nova over Towson. We soundly defeated them on their own homecoming.

Towson's losses, 7-1 Kent State, 7-1 F'ing LSU, #6 ODU and #11 JMU on your own ballot. Leaves us at 4-2 in the FCS.

SMFH

As much as I do like Towson, you are 4-4 this season to date. I have been big on you but haven't seen the results of a tough schedule (besides a nice showing at LSU). Calm down and you'll keep climbin.

[WileECoyote06]

Can somebody sell me on the difference between Stony Brook and Lehigh; and why some folks have SBU in their top five; while having Lehigh outside the top ten?

Stony Brook has an FBS win, but it was over an Army team that would be in the 40s in FCS (according to Massey).

I'm not saying Lehigh needs to be higher, I am just wondering why some folks have SBU so high?

Sell me on it.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Can somebody sell me on the difference between Stony Brook and Lehigh; and why some folks have SBU in their top five; while having Lehigh outside the top ten?

Stony Brook has an FBS win, but it was over an Army team that would be in the 40s in FCS (according to Massey).

I'm not saying Lehigh needs to be higher, I am just wondering why some folks have SBU so high?

Sell me on it.

I have SBU #4 and Lehigh #7. SBU returned slightly more than Lehigh did and seem to be a little more consistent on offense because of their running. I think both defenses are really good. The PL is, overall, better than the Big South though.

[FargoBison]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Wofford Terriers
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
8: Old Dominion Monarchs
9: Stony Brook Seawolves
10: Central Arkansas Bears
11: James Madison Dukes
12: New Hampshire Wildcats
13: Indiana State Sycamores
14: Cal Poly Mustangs
15: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
16: Appalachian State Mountaineers
17: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
18: Richmond Spiders
19: Albany Great Danes
20: Illinois State Redbirds
21: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
22: Sacramento State Hornets
23: Eastern Illinois Panthers
24: Villanova Wildcats
25: Southern Illinois Salukis

[TheRevSFA]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Wofford Terriers
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
8: Old Dominion Monarchs
9: Stony Brook Seawolves
10: Central Arkansas Bears
11: James Madison Dukes
12: New Hampshire Wildcats
13: Indiana State Sycamores
14: Cal Poly Mustangs
15: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
16: Appalachian State Mountaineers
17: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
18: Richmond Spiders
19: Albany Great Danes
20: Illinois State Redbirds
21: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
22: Sacramento State Hornets
23: Eastern Illinois Panthers
24: Villanova Wildcats
25: Southern Illinois Salukis

I'll save Andy the trouble

"You should be ashamed of yourself, having Nova over Towson!!!!!!!"

[FargoBison]

I'll save Andy the trouble

"You should be ashamed of yourself, having Nova over Towson!!!!!!!"

Well if it makes Andy feel better EWU beat MSU and I have MSU ranked over EWU. Indiana State beat NDSU and I have NDSU over ISU. Nova beat ODU but I have ODU over NOVA as well. UCA beat SHSU and I have SHSU over UCA. SIU beat Ill State and I have Ill State over SIU. I have Indiana State over SDSU but SDSU beat Indiana State.

[Jacked_Rabbit]

Again with Nova over Towson. We soundly defeated them on their own homecoming.

Towson's losses, 7-1 Kent State, 7-1 F'ing LSU, #6 ODU and #11 JMU on your own ballot. Leaves us at 4-2 in the FCS.

SMFH

That's not how polls work... We soundly defeated Indiana State at their place, and they are ranked ahead of us. And they defeated NDSU in Fargo and NDSU is ranked ahead of them. That's just how it goes man.

[terrierbob]

I think Wofford is a little high at #5. If we played the second half like the first half in our game last Saturday against The Citadel, a #5 ranking would be spot on. However, we had penalties, mistakes, and generalized lethargy in the second half. The defense bailed us out twice in the last few minutes. We need whole game performances against Samford and Chattanooga. If not, we'll be 7-3 going into the South Carolina game.

[andy7171]

I'll save Andy the trouble

"You should be ashamed of yourself, having Nova over Towson!!!!!!!"

*** hole!












xlolxxthumbsupx

[citdog]

I think Wofford is a little high at #5. If we played the second half like the first half in our game last Saturday against The Citadel, a #5 ranking would be spot on. However, we had penalties, mistakes, and generalized lethargy in the second half. The defense bailed us out twice in the last few minutes. We need whole game performances against Samford and Chattanooga. If not, we'll be 7-3 going into the South Carolina game.

no. The arrogant ayers went for it on 4th down again when the situation didn't call for it and the BEAR JEW got absolutely stuffed in the backfield. it wasn't lethargy that didn't allow you to cross midfield in the second half that was The Citadel defense that caused it.

[Professor Chaos]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: Georgia Southern Eagles
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Sam Houston State Bearkats
6: Stony Brook Seawolves
7: Cal Poly Mustangs
8: Old Dominion Monarchs
9: James Madison Dukes
10: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
11: Wofford Terriers
12: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: Indiana State Sycamores
15: Appalachian State Mountaineers
16: Central Arkansas Bears
17: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
18: Illinois State Redbirds
19: Albany Great Danes
20: Sacramento State Hornets
21: Tennessee State Tigers
22: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
23: Villanova Wildcats
24: Richmond Spiders
25: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats

Waiting list: Delaware, Eastern Illinois, Eastern Kentucky, Harvard, Jacksonville St, Southern Illinois, Towson

[bostonspider]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: Georgia Southern Eagles
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Sam Houston State Bearkats
6: Stony Brook Seawolves
7: Cal Poly Mustangs
8: Old Dominion Monarchs
9: James Madison Dukes
10: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
11: Wofford Terriers
12: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: Indiana State Sycamores
15: Appalachian State Mountaineers
16: Central Arkansas Bears
17: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
18: Illinois State Redbirds
19: Albany Great Danes
20: Sacramento State Hornets
21: Tennessee State Tigers
22: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
23: Villanova Wildcats
24: Richmond Spiders
25: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats

Waiting list: Delaware, Eastern Illinois, Eastern Kentucky, Harvard, Jacksonville St, Southern Illinois, Towson

JMU is too high (have not looked good in three weeks, OT versus W&M, loss to UR and squeaker versus GeoState). UNH is too low (only losses to FBS Minn. and very close loss to #8 ODU). and #24 Richmond beat #23 Villanova @ Nova 28-17....

[Twentysix]

So you mean like that one item in the buffet line at 2:30 in the morning after a night of drinkin' that swishes around in your gut til the next evening?

uhh....yeah....thats what I meant..

[Twentysix]

Seriously dude anytime you want to step forward and check over a hundred ballots and make sure that not one mistake gets by then let me know and we'll set you up with several hours of work on a Sunday to check 2500 names and make sure that not a single mistake is made.

fwiw, we are pretty short handed since a few of our poll guys are dealing with prep for the Hurricane and one of them is a firefighter in that area that has much bigger fish to fry right now.

No thanks, I won't point out glaring inaccuracies in the future.

[WileECoyote06]

I have SBU #4 and Lehigh #7. SBU returned slightly more than Lehigh did and seem to be a little more consistent on offense because of their running. I think both defenses are really good. The PL is, overall, better than the Big South though.

And that's part of my point, with the exception of CCU nobody in the Big South has a decent SOS. Lehigh and SBU both played CCSU; SBU had a larger point spread, but it was at home; while Lehigh traveled to Connecticut. The Colgate game is going to tell us a lot about both teams.

[heath]

Seriously dude anytime you want to step forward and check over a hundred ballots and make sure that not one mistake gets by then let me know and we'll set you up with several hours of work on a Sunday to check 2500 names and make sure that not a single mistake is made.

fwiw, we are pretty short handed since a few of our poll guys are dealing with prep for the Hurricane and one of them is a firefighter in that area that has much bigger fish to fry right now.

xbawlingxxbawlingxxbawlingxxbawlingxxbawlingxxbawl ingxxbawlingxSeriously dude

[ursus arctos horribilis]

xbawlingxxbawlingxxbawlingxxbawlingxxbawlingxxbawl ingxxbawlingxSeriously dude

hey Keith, was wondering when we'd see ya!

[UNH Fanboi]

Can somebody sell me on the difference between Stony Brook and Lehigh; and why some folks have SBU in their top five; while having Lehigh outside the top ten?

Stony Brook has an FBS win, but it was over an Army team that would be in the 40s in FCS (according to Massey).

I'm not saying Lehigh needs to be higher, I am just wondering why some folks have SBU so high?

Sell me on it.

Lehigh has squeaked by some crappy teams. Stony Brook has generally won comfortably.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

No thanks, I won't point out glaring inaccuracies in the future.

It actually had more to do with your over reaction and so forth but whatever way you want to go with it sounds good. Hell, ya almost seemed offended that something like that could happen.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Lehigh has squeaked by some crappy teams. Stony Brook has generally won comfortably.


What's the crappiest team Lehigh has scraped by? 3-5 Liberty, 4-5 Georgetown or 4-4 Monmouth? The three weakest teams Lehigh has played, CCSU, Columbia and Bucknell, the Hawks won easily like they should.

[terrierbob]

no. The arrogant ayers went for it on 4th down again when the situation didn't call for it and the BEAR JEW got absolutely stuffed in the backfield. it wasn't lethargy that didn't allow you to cross midfield in the second half that was The Citadel defense that caused it.

What a subtle and gentle reminder that the boys in Carolina blue wanted it almost as much as we did.

[caribbeanhen]

Can somebody sell me on the difference between Stony Brook and Lehigh; and why some folks have SBU in their top five; while having Lehigh outside the top ten?

Stony Brook has an FBS win, but it was over an Army team that would be in the 40s in FCS (according to Massey).

I'm not saying Lehigh needs to be higher, I am just wondering why some folks have SBU so high?

Sell me on it.

ask the Sammy Houston coach what he thinks of STONEY and if he's ever heard of Lehigh

[Twentysix]

It actually had more to do with your over reaction and so forth but whatever way you want to go with it sounds good. Hell, ya almost seemed offended that something like that could happen.

It's all in the eye's of the reader.

[WileECoyote06]

ask the Sammy Houston coach what he thinks of STONEY and if he's ever heard of Lehigh

At some point in the season, it's about what you've done this year. And technically, Lehigh advanced one more round than Stoney Brook. . .so. . . .

[darell1976]

Can't believe we got 10pts. Sort of wonder if this was a miss vote for NAU as well. Overall poll looks pretty good.

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I was thinking the same thing when people were bashing Northern Colorado.

Here is my ballot:

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Wofford Terriers
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: Stony Brook Seawolves
6: Old Dominion Monarchs
7: Sam Houston State Bearkats
8: Eastern Washington Eagles
9: Cal Poly Mustangs
10: James Madison Dukes
11: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
12: New Hampshire Wildcats
13: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
14: Central Arkansas Bears
15: Albany Great Danes
16: Indiana State Sycamores
17: Appalachian State Mountaineers
18: Illinois State Redbirds
19: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
20: Richmond Spiders
21: Towson Tigers
22: Tennessee State Tigers
23: Harvard Crimson
24: Villanova Wildcats
25: Eastern Kentucky Colonels

[ursus arctos horribilis]

It's all in the eye's of the reader.

True enough.

[URMite]

I was thinking the same thing when people were bashing Northern Colorado.

Here is my ballot:

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Wofford Terriers
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: Stony Brook Seawolves
6: Old Dominion Monarchs
7: Sam Houston State Bearkats
8: Eastern Washington Eagles
9: Cal Poly Mustangs
10: James Madison Dukes
11: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
12: New Hampshire Wildcats
13: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
14: Central Arkansas Bears
15: Albany Great Danes
16: Indiana State Sycamores
17: Appalachian State Mountaineers
18: Illinois State Redbirds
19: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
20: Richmond Spiders
21: Towson Tigers
22: Tennessee State Tigers
23: Harvard Crimson
24: Villanova Wildcats
25: Eastern Kentucky Colonels

Well, the computers put UNI at 36 and UNC at 75, so UNI in the top 40 didn't seem out of place. But it does mean someone has to think they are top 25. xdontknowx

[JMUNJ08]

What's the crappiest team Lehigh has scraped by? 3-5 Liberty, 4-5 Georgetown or 4-4 Monmouth? The three weakest teams Lehigh has played, CCSU, Columbia and Bucknell, the Hawks won easily like they should.

Shouldn't they blow out all these teams too?

[DSUrocks07]

Late to the party. Had to work during the hurricane.

1: Georgia Southern Eagles
2: Wofford Terriers
3: North Dakota State Bison
4: Stony Brook Seawolves
5: Old Dominion Monarchs
6: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
7: Eastern Washington Eagles
8: Cal Poly Mustangs
9: James Madison Dukes
10: New Hampshire Wildcats
11: Albany Great Danes
12: Appalachian State Mountaineers
13: Sam Houston State Bearkats
14: Montana State Bobcats
15: Illinois State Redbirds
16: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
17: Central Arkansas Bears
18: Indiana State Sycamores
19: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
20: Richmond Spiders
21: Tennessee State Tigers
22: Sacramento State Hornets
23: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
24: Villanova Wildcats
25: Harvard Crimson