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carney2
October 21st, 2012, 12:02 PM
Three teams undefeated in League play.

Week 9, October 27, 2012:

COLGATE @ BUCKNELL
FORDHAM @ HOLY CROSS
GEORGETOWN @ LAFAYETTE
LEHIGH - Bye

The Patriot League is 16-15 Year-to-Date vs. OOC:

No OOC games in Week 8

1-2 in Week 7:
vs. Big East 0-1
vs. Big South 1-1
vs. CAA 1-3
vs. D-2 1-0
vs. Ivy 7-7
vs. MVC 0-1
vs. NEC 4-2
vs. PFL 2-0


STANDINGS:
(Patriot League W-L is listed first, followed by overall W-L)
(These are not the “official” standings because Fordham is included.)

Lehigh 3-0, 8-0
Colgate 2-0, 4-3
Lafayette 2-0, 5-2
Fordham* 1-1, 4-3
Holy Cross 1-2, 1-6
Bucknell 0-3, 1-6
Georgetown 0-3, 3-5

*Ineligible for League championship and auto-bid.

Engineer86
October 21st, 2012, 12:06 PM
Colgate easily
Fordham, I think HC has one more good game in them, but this is not it
Georgetown, time for another one of those LC games

RichH2
October 21st, 2012, 12:09 PM
Already? Too efficient Carney.
Gate over BU. Bison may slow'em up a bit not enuf to win

Rams too strong for Cross

Pards continue roll vs Hoyas
Is it true Bogie and DFW duel at halftime?

Pard4Life
October 21st, 2012, 02:43 PM
Really looking forward to this game. Weather as of now does not look bad: mid-50s during the game.

Hawk98
October 21st, 2012, 02:45 PM
Colgate 42 - Bucknell 17
Fordham 24 - Holy Cross 20
Lafayette 17 - Georgetown 16

carney2
October 21st, 2012, 03:29 PM
Is it true Bogie and DFW duel at halftime?

Finally some halftime entertainment worth staying in your seat for.

ngineer
October 21st, 2012, 04:02 PM
While Bucknell has a very good D against the run, which is the Raiders' forte, I don't see them being able to slow Colgate down enough, though they hang tough. Colgate, 28-20.

Fordham has too many weapons for the Crusaders. Rams, 33-14

This a a toss-up to me, though at Laughyette, I'll go with homefield advantage. Hoyas special teams, i.e. kicking game could be achilles heel. Leotards, 29-28.

crusader11
October 21st, 2012, 04:19 PM
Holy Cross will be fortunate to win another game this year. Even the Wagner game is a toss up at this point.

Hard to see HC staying close with Fordham next week, especially given their solid ad balanced offensive attack.

Ivytalk
October 21st, 2012, 04:25 PM
Colgate
Fordham
Lafayette

carney2
October 21st, 2012, 06:36 PM
Only one candidate for Game of the Week this time around - Georgetown @ Lafayette. There are championship implications, and it is the only game where the winner is not a foregone conclusion.

carney2
October 21st, 2012, 07:15 PM
COLGATE @ BUCKNELL - The guys with the short pants and pituitary problems have started dribbling (drooling?) in Sojka so no one in Buffalo cares about football. Good thing because there's nothing to care about. The Raiders take a week off before the big push.

FORDHAM @ HOLY CROSS - The Rams are slowly playing themselves into being one of the better teams in the League. The Crusaders have already played themselves into the exact opposite.

GEORGETOWN @ LAFAYETTE - A maroon trifecta this week. Well, maybe. This one is the least predictable of the three. The Leopards have been up and down. The Hoyas, on the other hand, have been mostly down, but have enough talent to get up. Going with up and down over mostly down.

Hawk98
October 21st, 2012, 07:16 PM
Also, I predict that Lehigh turns the ball over 4 times to BYE's defense.

Pard4Life
October 21st, 2012, 08:43 PM
Colagte - Bucknell is usually a funny game. Colgate has lost when they "were not supposed to" and have made it close on other occasions.

Lehigh Football Nation
October 21st, 2012, 09:00 PM
To me, Bucknell showed some signs that they are getting things together on offense. I don't know if that means they'll make it close against Colgate or win the game, but I thought it worth mentioning.

If Bucknell stands a chance they'll have to jump to an early lead.

RichH2
October 21st, 2012, 09:50 PM
Gate D is a sure cure for a shaky O. BU will move the ball and shut down McCord. Gate will pass them silly. If a trap game for Gate
BU could make it interesting.

Go...gate
October 21st, 2012, 11:01 PM
Colagte - Bucknell is usually a funny game. Colgate has lost when they "were not supposed to" and have made it close on other occasions.

Yes, indeed. And Colgate has no - repeat NO - defense.

PJ McJorma
October 21st, 2012, 11:34 PM
Colgate 40 - Bucknell 24
Fordham 27 - Holy Cross 21
Georgetown 20 - Lafayette 17 OT

jimbo65
October 22nd, 2012, 06:07 AM
Colgate
Fordham
Lafayette

IMO this week's picks are easy, which likely means I'll lose two of three.

RichH2
October 22nd, 2012, 08:18 AM
I'm with you Jimbo. When I feel picks are no brainers, I should reversie them. I would do better.

carney2
October 22nd, 2012, 10:18 AM
Bucknell held Lehigh to 26 net yards rushing. They will have to repeat that performance and toughen up the kick protection (4 blocked by Lehigh! - 3 punts and 1 PAT) to make a game out of it on Saturday. Statistics say that the Raiders have a decent passing game, but you have to believe that it's some sort of stealth attack, crossing up opponents who are expecting the run. Not a Pat Simonds in sight this year. This just might be a decent read on the Raiders when the other guy loads up against the run.

RichH2
October 22nd, 2012, 10:20 AM
Bassett

LC-GU 31-26
Gate-BU 31-24
HC-FU 28-24

Massey

LC-GU 26-21
Gate-BU 37-19
FU-HC 30-24

Another split this week on Rams

Pard4Life
October 22nd, 2012, 10:24 AM
That's quite amazing Lehigh was held to as little rushing yards. It sounds like their drives were not very long either. It's even more commendable given Barkett ran all over Gtown the previous week. I guess or struggles against BU should be taken in a new light. Bison have the toughest test of their season with the duel McAttack. If BU can't stop the duo, not much hope for the Pards. I hope it's their trap game before 11/3! Gtown is no trap game for us... everyone knows who we are facing and what it means.

... damn FIOS!

Fordhamanhattan
October 22nd, 2012, 10:26 AM
Colgate pastes
Rams beat their most traditional rival
The Hoya in an upset

Franks Tanks
October 22nd, 2012, 10:52 AM
That's quite amazing Lehigh was held to as little rushing yards. It sounds like their drives were not very long either. It's even more commendable given Barkett ran all over Gtown the previous week. I guess or struggles against BU should be taken in a new light. Bison have the toughest test of their season with the duel McAttack. If BU can't stop the duo, not much hope for the Pards. I hope it's their trap game before 11/3! Gtown is no trap game for us... everyone knows who we are facing and what it means.

... damn FIOS!

I understand Lehigh had 2 or 3 blocked punts which set them up for some short scoring drives.

RichH2
October 22nd, 2012, 11:14 AM
True but BU is tough on run. Lots of single coverage beats them. If Mike a bit more consistent could have had 400yds.
Key to Gate O is runs by qb and McCord. Safeties come up and they zap you with pass.
If BU can shut off run a shot for a closer game

TheValleyRaider
October 22nd, 2012, 01:14 PM
Statistics say that the Raiders have a decent passing game, but you have to believe that it's some sort of stealth attack, crossing up opponents who are expecting the run. Not a Pat Simonds in sight this year. This just might be a decent read on the Raiders when the other guy loads up against the run.

Certainly the run sets up the pass, but even without a Simonds, the receiving corps is deeper than it has been in the past, and McCarney is a better thrower than Sullivan was. Even given how well the Raiders run, the passing game is not to be trifled with easily

carney2
October 22nd, 2012, 01:26 PM
If I were of the Leopard persuasion (which I am), I would strongly consider playing 7 or 8 in the box all day vs. Colgate, trusting the best defensive secondary in the League to handle what comes their way. You won't bat 1.000, but your goal is to slow them down, force some punts, force some turnovers. My mindset would be "they're gonna score 3 or 4 times, but we can't let it get much beyond that."

TheValleyRaider
October 22nd, 2012, 01:29 PM
Another perfect week, up to 31-11 for the season

Colgate at Bucknell Colgate As the thread suggests, a tricker fixture than you might imagine. The 'Gate dominates the all-time series (16 wins in 61 games for the Bison) and has won the last 5 (with only one game within 2 scores). Still, their defense has looked strong at times, and we pretty much need to be in a shootout to win games at this point. The defense has looked pourous against 3rd and 4th string QBs the last couple of weeks, so I suppose if Bucknell's using their regular starter maybe it will be to our advantage? Either way, Colgate needs some decent special teams to preserve field position, and avoid turnovers. If the Raiders can get up early, they'll salt this one away

Fordham at Holy Cross Fordham A coaching change has done good for the Rams, moving them back into the conversation for the League's best*. Or at the very least, no longer a doormat. Holy Cross had undergone a similar rennaissance of sorts in recent seasons, but appears to be taking an injury-plagued backslide. Is Fordham permanently up? Continued scholarships point to yes, though with the rest of the League adding them, the advantage may be shortlived. Is Holy Cross permanently down? Unlikely, as Gilmore is too good a coach and they've been too tough in recent years. But that is the future, and we are talking about this Saturday. Put me down for the Rams

Georgetown at Lafayette Lafayette Surprising amount of...feelings for this one. Don't forget that it's the Hoyas who are currently riding a 2-game win streak in the series. Both teams have had bouts of inconsistency, which makes them both dangerous picks. Georgetown though has also suffered some key injuries, and the air may be out of their balloon following last year's success. Talk of a Colgate-Lehigh championship game seems premature to me, as the unbeaten-in-Patriot-League-play Leopards will have their fair say over the next couple of weeks. Getting past the Hoyas is step one for now, and one they'll pull out (however long it takes their inconsistencies to make it happen)

Franks Tanks
October 22nd, 2012, 01:29 PM
If I were of the Leopard persuasion (which I am), I would strongly consider playing 7 or 8 in the box all day, trusting the best defensive secondary in the League to handle what comes their way. You won't bat 1.000, but your goal is to slow them down, force some punts, force some turnovers. My mindset would be "they're gonna score 3 or 4 times, but we can't let it get much beyond that."



I agree Carney. Given our D, I would do everything possible to slow down the running game and temp 'Gate to pass. We then hope our opportunistic D-backs can pick off some balls or at least mitigate the damage through the air. It will be a very tall order, but I think we are better equipped than most to hang with the Colgate offense.

van
October 22nd, 2012, 02:44 PM
COLGATE, but not a shocker to see Bison win at home
FORDHAM, and don't expect it to be close
LAFAYETTE, not a lot of conviction on this call
LEHIGH, Bye could not come at a better time

Bogus Megapardus
October 22nd, 2012, 03:42 PM
OK - Let's get this party started!


http://imageshack.us/a/img405/8823/fluke1cropedit.png

RichH2
October 22nd, 2012, 03:59 PM
A shot across the bow. Good to have you back Bogie.

ColgateTD
October 23rd, 2012, 10:50 AM
Bucknell held Lehigh to 26 net yards rushing. They will have to repeat that performance and toughen up the kick protection (4 blocked by Lehigh! - 3 punts and 1 PAT) to make a game out of it on Saturday. Statistics say that the Raiders have a decent passing game, but you have to believe that it's some sort of stealth attack, crossing up opponents who are expecting the run. Not a Pat Simonds in sight this year. This just might be a decent read on the Raiders when the other guy loads up against the run.

It's true that 'Gate typically does poorly playing at Bucknell, but what's not to like after 717 yds of total offense last week (new Colgate record!) vs. the Hoyas? WRs Cason + Looney = Simonds. The "Irish" backfield should be able to rattle the Bison enough with the option to give the air attack time to maneuver for TDs.

DFW HOYA
October 23rd, 2012, 11:06 AM
It's true that 'Gate typically does poorly playing at Bucknell, but what's not to like after 717 yds of total offense last week (new Colgate record!) vs. the Hoyas? WRs Cason + Looney = Simonds. The "Irish" backfield should be able to rattle the Bison enough with the option to give the air attack time to maneuver for TDs.

It's 707 yards..because somebody's counting.

This broke the previous opponent record of 688 yards set by St. John's in 1992...back when the Redmen were a pretty good football team.

Pard4Life
October 23rd, 2012, 06:53 PM
So... quiet week... I wonder how attendance will be...

Sader87
October 23rd, 2012, 07:28 PM
So... quiet week... I wonder how attendance will be...

I think you're trying to be snarky here but this may well be one of the worst attended PL football weekends EVAH.

Fordham @ HC: I don't think FU travels very well and HC is 1-6...I'd be shocked (though heartened) if there were more than 5K.

Colgate @ Bucknell: I think it's homecoming so that will help a bit...still hard to see a big crowd here.

GTown @ Lafayette: Again, I don't see much of a Hoya contingent travelling to Easton, maybe the 6pm kick-off will help a bit.

I'll predict: 4,673 at Fitton. 3,675 at CM and 6,078 at Fisher.

ColgateTD
October 23rd, 2012, 08:07 PM
It's 707 yards..because somebody's counting.

This broke the previous opponent record of 688 yards set by St. John's in 1992...back when the Redmen were a pretty good football team.

Sorry DFW. My bad.

ColgateTD
October 23rd, 2012, 08:13 PM
Now I must break into the weekly attendance discussion with this..

Fordham will win
Lafayette will win
Colgate will win....and put over 50 pts. on the board for the third straight week.

31-11

Lehigh'98
October 23rd, 2012, 10:04 PM
Oh what the hell: Bucknell 33 Colgate 31, Gtown 20 Lafayette 3, HC 41 4dumb Rams 37 Week of the upset

DFW HOYA
October 24th, 2012, 09:11 AM
It appears the PL is settling into three competitive tiers: Colg/Leh, Laf/HC/Fordham, and Bucknell/Georgetown. Scholarships (or the lack thereof) don't seem to be changing this dynamic.

Bogus Megapardus
October 24th, 2012, 09:19 AM
Some Sportsbook lines:

Yale (pk) at Columbia

Princeton (-4) at Cornell

Frodham (-5) at Holy Cross

Brown (-7) at Penn

Colgate (-13) at Bucknell

Harvard (-19) at Dartmouth

Lafayette (-8) vs The FiOS Fettering Pygalgia of the Potomac

* * * * * * * *

New Hampshire (-30) at Rhode Island

Villanova (-7) vs Towson

W&M (-3) vs Maine

Lehigh Football Nation
October 24th, 2012, 09:31 AM
Hopefully Bucknell played another motivational video to their players like the one they played before the game vs. Lehigh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUR_fmSETjjka0RvAeG_gqKg&feature=player_embedded&v=pRXLAw-ErDE&noredirect=1#!

The audio is pretty low, but it's great stuff. It will make YOU want to get up and go out there.

PAllen
October 24th, 2012, 11:43 AM
COLGATE @ BUCKNELL
FORDHAM @ HOLY CROSS
GEORGETOWN @ LAFAYETTE

LEHIGH - Engineers end up in a close game against one of their tougher opponents this year. But, but the offense looks much better, as there is no opposing defense to throw to.

RichH2
October 24th, 2012, 11:51 AM
True P this is only week that it is guaranteed that Mike wont throw an INT.

LehighU11
October 24th, 2012, 12:21 PM
True P this is only week that it is guaranteed that Mike wont throw an INT.

Also guaranteed we won't have a muffed punt return this week. I'm willing to bet they're the result of a lack of real practice, not nerves. Divers doesn't get much air or hang time on his punts, as he kicks more low-flying ones after rolling out towards the sidelines. A ball machine would better simulate what we've seen from most opposing punters.

ngineer
October 24th, 2012, 12:57 PM
Also guaranteed we won't have a muffed punt return this week. I'm willing to bet they're the result of a lack of real practice, not nerves. Divers doesn't get much air or hang time on his punts, as he kicks more low-flying ones after rolling out towards the sidelines. A ball machine would better simulate what we've seen from most opposing punters.


Not sure what's up with Divers. The past couple weeks he's had a couple shanks and the hang time less; However, the first month of the season or so was going great, averaging over 43/yds/punt with good hang time. Now he's around 35. Mental? Physical? Distraction?

LehighU11
October 24th, 2012, 02:51 PM
Going with a "bunch of maroons"
COLGATE @ BUCKNELL The 'Gate will put up more than LU against the Bison, 49-20.
FORDHAM @ HOLY CROSS A down year for the 'saders doesn't get much better, 27-17.
GEORGETOWN @ LAFAYETTE Pards avenge the FiOS Fiasco at MSF and remain undefeated in league play, 7-27.

Because I'm a glutton for punishment and enjoy watching Lehigh struggle to show up for a full 60 minutes every week, I'm headed up to Manhattan on the bye week to see Columbia host Yale in what could be the battle for last in the Ivy League. Pulling for a Lions' win. Lions 17, Eli 10.

Pard4Life
October 24th, 2012, 04:53 PM
Last week: 3-0. Season: 35-7.

Colgate 35, Bucknell 21... Gate will score, but not as easily. The passing attack will mitigate any intransigence of the running game.

Fordham 41, Holy Cross 24... not after last week.

Lafayette 28, FiOS Fettering Pygalgia of the Potomac 10... Pards defense shuts down the Hoyas and their new personnel, though last week's outburst in Hamilton gives me pause. However, even Betty White could score on Gate... and a team that narrowly beat Davidson? RMU embarrassed LC, but c'mon... Davidson?

DFW HOYA
October 24th, 2012, 06:51 PM
However, even Betty White could score on Gate... and a team that narrowly beat Davidson? RMU embarrassed LC, but c'mon... Davidson?

Who narrowly beat Davidson?

Pard4Life
October 24th, 2012, 08:53 PM
Who narrowly beat Davidson?

You, 20-10... then Davidson losses to D2 Lenoir-Ryne 20-2.

LehighU11
October 24th, 2012, 08:59 PM
You, 20-10... then Davidson losses to D2 Lenoir-Ryne 20-2.

Hate to be the fact checker, but the Hoyas beat Davidson 35-14, and gave up the last score in garbage time. Yardage was 408-208. Not very close.

Pard4Life
October 25th, 2012, 08:38 AM
Hate to be the fact checker, but the Hoyas beat Davidson 35-14, and gave up the last score in garbage time. Yardage was 408-208. Not very close.

Oops, maybe I was thinking of last year.

carney2
October 25th, 2012, 09:03 AM
Oops, maybe I was thinking of last year.

Yes, P4L, that RMU fiasco remains the single worst loss by any Patriot League contender or pretender this year.

DFW HOYA
October 25th, 2012, 09:05 AM
Oops, maybe I was thinking of last year.

Georgetown won 40-16 in 2011.The game you referred to was in 2010 and ended the Hoyas' 12 game losing streak.

A week later, a 28-24 win at Fisher Stadium.

http://www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/fb-2010-recap.htm

LehighU11
October 25th, 2012, 09:17 AM
Georgetown won 40-16 in 2011.The game you referred to was in 2010 and ended the Hoyas' 12 game losing streak.

A week later, a 28-24 win at Fisher Stadium.

http://www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/fb-2010-recap.htm

Lafayette is developing quite the resume of embarrassing losses. 2010 at home to Georgetown after a near PL title, 39-13 loss in 2011 against Bucknell in the snow, and RMU this year.

LeopardBall10
October 25th, 2012, 09:20 AM
Georgetown won 40-16 in 2011.The game you referred to was in 2010 and ended the Hoyas' 12 game losing streak.

A week later, a 28-24 win at Fisher Stadium.

http://www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/fb-2010-recap.htm

Its been a few years since I've posted anything, although I always read the board. But this was too good. DFW should have ended this with *BOOM! (drops the mic and leaves)*

carney2
October 25th, 2012, 10:28 AM
Lafayette is developing quite the resume of embarrassing losses. 2010 at home to Georgetown after a near PL title, 39-13 loss in 2011 against Bucknell in the snow, and RMU this year.

All three of the games you mention are on on an expansive and, thankfully at the moment not expanding, list of no-show games, phone-ins, don't-give-a-crap performances. All of it on the head coach. All of it unforgivable. Yet, no one's feet are being held to the fire for any of it. Also unforgivable.

Sader87
October 25th, 2012, 12:01 PM
Its been a few years since I've posted anything, although I always read the board. But this was too good. DFW should have ended this with *BOOM! (drops the mic and leaves)*

Funny stuff....you should post more here.

LehighU11
October 25th, 2012, 12:33 PM
All three of the games you mention are on on an expansive and, thankfully at the moment not expanding, list of no-show games, phone-ins, don't-give-a-crap performances. All of it on the head coach. All of it unforgivable. Yet, no one's feet are being held to the fire for any of it. Also unforgivable.

Let's hope that list doesn't continue to grow too much. The Game, as well as the PL season, is much more entertaining when both LU and LC are successful. I'd much rather see an '07,' 08, and '09 type of game than last year's no show by Tavani and the Pards.

carney2
October 25th, 2012, 12:52 PM
Let's hope that list doesn't continue to grow too much. The Game, as well as the PL season, is much more entertaining when both LU and LC are successful. I'd much rather see an '07,' 08, and '09 type of game than last year's no show by Tavani and the Pards.

The '08 and '09 games with the ChickenSquawks are on my no-show list (as is 2011) - but apparently I am the only one keeping track. Both of these came in years where the Pards were "in the hunt" but got taken out the week before by Dominic Randolph and the Crossers. Tavani could not get them out of their funk and "up" for the biggest game of the year. Unforgivable - but perhaps I repeat myself.

Lehigh Football Nation
October 25th, 2012, 01:02 PM
This year, with the Lehigh/Colgate game with probable championship connotations, the Pards/Cross script might be switched. A draining game vs. Colgate could result in a Hawk loss to the Leopards.

carney2
October 25th, 2012, 01:11 PM
This year, with the Lehigh/Colgate game with probable championship connotations, the Pards/Cross script might be switched. A draining game vs. Colgate could result in a Hawk loss to the Leopards.

The only way it happens is if Colgate beats Lafayette and then Lehigh. Since the 'gaters play Fordham in their final game, that takes away any possibility of the Squawks getting the League championship and the autobid. Lots to play for with at-large bids still up for grabs, but a possibility.

We have, by the way, seen the Squawks in no-show mode in THE Game. I think it was the 24-10 Lafayette win in 2004 when the Foul Fowl should have just gotten on the bus at halftime for all the spirit and involvement they showed by coming out for the second half. A guy behind me that day commented as Lehigh came out for the second half, "They've quit. It's over." He was right.

LUHawker
October 25th, 2012, 02:58 PM
The only way it happens is if Colgate beats Lafayette and then Lehigh. Since the 'gaters play Fordham in their final game, that takes away any possibility of the Squawks getting the League championship and the autobid. Lots to play for with at-large bids still up for grabs, but a possibility.

We have, by the way, seen the Squawks in no-show mode in THE Game. I think it was the 24-10 Lafayette win in 2004 when the Foul Fowl should have just gotten on the bus at halftime for all the spirit and involvement they showed by coming out for the second half. A guy behind me that day commented as Lehigh came out for the second half, "They've quit. It's over." He was right.

That wasn't me behind you, but I said that in similar words. LU had nothing to really play for that year as they were practically guarateed a bid. However, that is no excuse, but I blame Lembo who "seemed" to have trouble getting the team up for the big games.

Lehigh Football Nation
October 25th, 2012, 03:03 PM
So I'll just go out and say it: does the Frankenstorm affect Frankasaurus' gameplan this weekend against Georgetown?

carney2
October 25th, 2012, 04:07 PM
So I'll just go out and say it: does the Frankenstorm affect Frankasaurus' gameplan this weekend against Georgetown?

Define "Frankenstorm." If you're talking about the foregoing "no-show, phone ins," etc. I'm a ranter of one, and Frank is immune from that kind of criticism from the faithful. If you are referring to something else, I have no idea what you're talking about.

As for The Frankosaurus, he is what he is and he is always lurking. Had a "discussion" with someone in my section at a recent home game who objected to my bitching at Frank because of the offense. "The plays are called by the offensive coordinator" said he. Bullsquiggle! Mickey Fein, the OC, is schooled in the spread offense and is a former QB. To think that he is intentionally doing some of the things we are seeing is ludicrous. He is either pandering to his boss, doing exactly what he's told, or the calls are being filtered through Frank who makes the necessary changes. To quote P4L, "Frank's fingerprints are all over this."

I will say however, that some of the online criticism has resulted in changes on the field this year. Not enough to declare The Frankosuarus dead, but some.

ngineer
October 25th, 2012, 04:24 PM
Define "Frankenstorm." If you're talking about the foregoing "no-show, phone ins," etc. I'm a ranter of one, and Frank is immune from that kind of criticism from the faithful. If you are referring to something else, I have no idea what you're talking about.

As for The Frankosaurus, he is what he is and he is always lurking. Had a "discussion" with someone in my section at a recent home game who objected to my bitching at Frank because of the offense. "The plays are called by the offensive coordinator" said he. Bullsquiggle! Mickey Fein, the OC, is schooled in the spread offense and is a former QB. To think that he is intentionally doing some of the things we are seeing is ludicrous. He is either pandering to his boss, doing exactly what he's told, or the calls are being filtered through Frank who makes the necessary changes. To quote P4L, "Frank's fingerprints are all over this."

I will say however, that some of the online criticism has resulted in changes on the field this year. Not enough to declare The Frankosuarus dead, but some.

The 'Frankenstorm" may have been a reference to the 'monster' storm coming up the coast, but last I heard it won't get here until late Sunday into Monday morning. As for the play calling, as with our situation, the calls come down from the OC, but the final filter is the HC who can either 'go with the call' or make changes. I've done more than my usual complaining this year about some of the calls I perceive Cecchini making, but then realize that Coen has the final say on the sideline. Since Frank wears a headset, too, I'm sure that's the way it goes.

LehighU11
October 25th, 2012, 04:27 PM
Define "Frankenstorm." If you're talking about the foregoing "no-show, phone ins," etc. I'm a ranter of one, and Frank is immune from that kind of criticism from the faithful. If you are referring to something else, I have no idea what you're talking about.

I believe LFN is referring to Hurricane Sandy, which is supposedly going to be a nasty Nor'Easter. It's not supposed to hit the area until Sunday night, so I don't believe that Frankosaurus' perfectly devised and unquestionable game plan will be affected by the storm.

Lehigh Football Nation
October 25th, 2012, 04:31 PM
Define "Frankenstorm." If you're talking about the foregoing "no-show, phone ins," etc. I'm a ranter of one, and Frank is immune from that kind of criticism from the faithful. If you are referring to something else, I have no idea what you're talking about.

As for The Frankosaurus, he is what he is and he is always lurking. Had a "discussion" with someone in my section at a recent home game who objected to my bitching at Frank because of the offense. "The plays are called by the offensive coordinator" said he. Bullsquiggle! Mickey Fein, the OC, is schooled in the spread offense and is a former QB. To think that he is intentionally doing some of the things we are seeing is ludicrous. He is either pandering to his boss, doing exactly what he's told, or the calls are being filtered through Frank who makes the necessary changes. To quote P4L, "Frank's fingerprints are all over this."

I will say however, that some of the online criticism has resulted in changes on the field this year. Not enough to declare The Frankosuarus dead, but some.

It is good to see that you are so consumed by the gameplan this weekend that you were unaware that Hurricane Sandy is indeed coming up the coast. But I am really liking your version of the "Frankenstorm" better than the actual hurricane. Bogie? xlolx

Lehigh Football Nation
October 25th, 2012, 04:32 PM
I guess the games more affected by the storm are those in Florida and on the southern coast. Liberty @ Coastal will probably be occurring with 25 mph winds and rain.

Sader87
October 26th, 2012, 07:50 AM
Much like a tree falling in an abandoned forest, if no one goes to this week's games, will the bashing of pads be audible this weekend???

30-12 on the year (again, 5 of those 12 via having too much faith in alma mater).

Holy Cross 31 Fordham 27 There's absolutely no justification for this and I'm not even going to rationalize it.

Colgate 34 Bucknell 17 A case could be made for a "trap game" for the Red Raiders in Lewisberg but I won't be the one making it.

Lafayette 24 GTown 16 Revenge for last year's debacle (both on and of the field) in DC.

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 26th, 2012, 09:19 AM
33-9 on the year

Fordham 34 Holy Cross 20 - Higgins should have a big game for the Rams...

Colgate 43 Bucknell 27 - The Raider offense rolls along

Lafayette 24 Georgetown 21 - The 'Pards finally get over the Hoya hurdle.

Lehigh - resting up for the stretch run...

Lehigh Football Nation
October 26th, 2012, 09:49 AM
I think I went undefeated last week? I honestly don't remember.

Fordham 44, Holy Cross 13 - Don't forget the Rams have four more auditions for the postseason. They need to run up scores to make their case, and Holy Cross is in their way this week.

Colgate 32, Bucknell 21 - I'd like to think homecoming will spell a win for the Bison - and it's what I'm obviously hoping for - but I just can't see it.

Georgetown 24, Lafayette 21 - This will be a much, much, much, closer game than people think.

DFW HOYA
October 26th, 2012, 10:21 AM
Colgate has scored 47, 51, and 57 points in the last three weeks--why are people predicting a lower scoring game against Bucknell?

Lehigh'98
October 26th, 2012, 10:24 AM
Fordham could win each of their last 4 games by 69 points each and it wouldn't matter, they would be 7-3 with no wins vs top 25. Heads would explode literally from fans of the "power" conferences if they got in.

LehighU11
October 26th, 2012, 10:48 AM
Colgate has scored 47, 51, and 57 points in the last three weeks--why are people predicting a lower scoring game against Bucknell?

Bucknell had the #6 run defense in the nation coming into last week's game at Lehigh. They held us to 26 net rushing yds. Perhaps that's the reason. I still see Colgate putting up 49.

Lehigh Football Nation
October 26th, 2012, 10:50 AM
Fordham could win each of their last 4 games by 69 points each and it wouldn't matter, they would be 7-3 with no wins vs top 25. Heads would explode literally from fans of the "power" conferences if they got in.

Their losses would be to two FBS teams and a nationally-ranked Lehigh team by a FG. The D-II win might be what really hurts them more, but they will unquestionably be in the conversation.

An 8-3 Sam Houston State would have nearly the exact same resume as 8-3 Fordham, assuming McNeese and SFA are unranked at the end of the year. The Southland would probably get the bid over Fordham, but I don't think it's a slam-dunk. I could certainly see some more losses with borderline teams and Fordham getting consideration.

DFW HOYA
October 26th, 2012, 10:51 AM
Bucknell had the #6 run defense in the nation coming into last week's game at Lehigh. They held us to 26 net rushing yds. Perhaps that's the reason. I still see Colgate putting up 49.

Georgetown had the #2 rushing defense in the league heading into that game and it didn't do much good because Colgate's passing game was too much to overcome. I don't see a 17-13 game by any means, but agree that a 49-10 score would not be unrealistic.

Lehigh'98
October 26th, 2012, 11:01 AM
Their losses would be to two FBS teams and a nationally-ranked Lehigh team by a FG. The D-II win might be what really hurts them more, but they will unquestionably be in the conversation.

An 8-3 Sam Houston State would have nearly the exact same resume as 8-3 Fordham, assuming McNeese and SFA are unranked at the end of the year. The Southland would probably get the bid over Fordham, but I don't think it's a slam-dunk. I could certainly see some more losses with borderline teams and Fordham getting consideration.

They would have lost to Villanova, LU and Cincinatti. I don't see how they could get in with all the MVC, CAA and big sky teams that would have 7 wins, but you are right they'd be in the discussion, just see no way they get in unless a whole lot of weird stuff happens, maybe Frankenstorm wiping a few programs off the map.

RichH2
October 26th, 2012, 12:27 PM
98
Power boys will go ballistic if any PL team gets an at large. Heck most dont think PL should have an auto.

TheValleyRaider
October 26th, 2012, 01:33 PM
Georgetown had the #2 rushing defense in the league heading into that game and it didn't do much good because Colgate's passing game was too much to overcome. I don't see a 17-13 game by any means, but agree that a 49-10 score would not be unrealistic.

I don't know about holding the Bison to 10 points. I know their offense isn't any good, but we've struggled far too often this year on defense to feel that comfortable. It may well be a large spread, but don't be shocked to see the Bison reel off a couple of quick scores in succession (a la Georgetown in last week's second half) to pad their totals

LehighU11
October 26th, 2012, 03:04 PM
Power boys will go ballistic if any PL team gets an at large. Heck most dont think PL should have an auto.

Despite much of the complaining on here about Lehigh being over-ranked, most of these power conferences have to be pulling for LU to win out. We would never hear the end of the uproar that would result from 2 PL entries from Lehigh and either Gate or LC.

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 26th, 2012, 03:08 PM
Despite much of the complaining on here about Lehigh being over-ranked, most of these power conferences have to be pulling for LU to win out. We would never hear the end of the uproar that would result from 2 PL entries from Lehigh and either Gate or LC.

Honestly, I don't think there will be quite the uproar some are thinking should Lehigh get in as an at large at 10-1. The UNH fans seem to be the biggest LU haters for some reason. There's a clear line between those that respect the Patriot League and the others that believe it's on the same level as the PFL. The latter are simply clueless.

Lehigh Football Nation
October 26th, 2012, 03:14 PM
Despite much of the complaining on here about Lehigh being over-ranked, most of these power conferences have to be pulling for LU to win out. We would never hear the end of the uproar that would result from 2 PL entries from Lehigh and either Gate or LC.

Very true. Same goes with the Big South and NEC.

Imagine for a second an autobid trio of Wagner, Liberty, and Colgate... what would the committee do?

DFW HOYA
October 26th, 2012, 03:23 PM
Honestly, I don't think there will be quite the uproar some are thinking should Lehigh get in as an at large at 10-1.

Agreed, but if this was Bucknell or Georgetown there's no way the "experts" would pencil them in for an at-large.

Lehigh'98
October 26th, 2012, 03:27 PM
Agreed, but if this was Bucknell or Georgetown there's no way the "experts" would pencil them in for an at-large.

Any 10-1 team from the PL, as long as the OOC games are D1 wins, would get in. Even amongst strong debate against. Does anyone have the history on at large births from the PL in the last 10 yrs?

LehighU11
October 26th, 2012, 03:33 PM
Very true. Same goes with the Big South and NEC.

Imagine for a second an autobid trio of Wagner, Liberty, and Colgate... what would the committee do?

That sure would be a mess and I don't think there's any way Lehigh and Stony Brook could be left out at 10-1 and 9-2, respectively. Luckily, it looks like only 2 of those might be able to get the autobid. Liberty is a real possibility to take the Big South, but I don't think Wagner has much of a chance at the NEC. They got blown out at home by Monmouth, who Albany easily disposed of.

Franks Tanks
October 26th, 2012, 03:33 PM
Any 10-1 team from the PL, as long as the OOC games are D1 wins, would get in. Even amongst strong debate against. Does anyone have the history on at large births from the PL in the last 10 yrs?

Lafayette got an at large in 2005(Colgate had the auto). I believe this was the last at large for a PL team.

In 2004 Lafayette and Lehigh both got in. Lafayette got the auto and Lehigh the at large. I think Colgate and Lehigh both got in one year as well.

TheValleyRaider
October 26th, 2012, 03:34 PM
There's a clear line between those that respect the Patriot League and the others that believe it's on the same level as the PFL. The latter are simply clueless.

Luckily for us, the people whose opinion actually matters are in the former category. Cooler heads, in general, prevail

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 26th, 2012, 04:05 PM
Lafayette got an at large in 2005(Colgate had the auto). I believe this was the last at large for a PL team.

In 2004 Lafayette and Lehigh both got in. Lafayette got the auto and Lehigh the at large. I think Colgate and Lehigh both got in one year as well.

The PL has received at large bids in '98 (Colgate), '99 (Lehigh), '04 (Lehigh) and '05 (Lafayette).

Go...gate
October 26th, 2012, 07:07 PM
Colgate 27, Bucknell 23

Fordham 28, Holy Cross 24

Lafayette 21, Georgetown 20

Pards Rule
October 26th, 2012, 08:38 PM
Yeah Lafayette at App State 2005 - an excellent game. Pards almost had an upset

carney2
October 27th, 2012, 10:50 AM
Yeah Lafayette at App State 2005 - an excellent game. Pards almost had an upset

Another of those moral freakin' victories that the Pards are so good at. How about just winning one for a change?!!

Pard4Life
October 27th, 2012, 10:54 AM
Another of those moral freakin' victories that the Pards are so good at. How about just winning one for a change?!!

Right, I'm tired with the moral victories... almost, coulda, shoulda... ugh. Maybe that's why we are not really "excited" and "happy" we are 5-2. We have the fowl down the road.

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 27th, 2012, 10:56 AM
Another of those moral freakin' victories that the Pards are so good at. How about just winning one for a change?!!

That was another case of the PL team running into the eventual national champ early on.

Pard4Life
October 27th, 2012, 11:04 AM
Briefing for the Gtown game: http://blogs.mcall.com/sports/2012/10/lafayette-georgetown-a-scouting-report.html

carney2
October 27th, 2012, 11:37 AM
Game time weather:

Lewisburg - mid 60s with a 20% chance of rain

Worcester - mid 60s with a 10% chance of rain

Easton - low 60s with a 20% of rain (It began to drizzle in the Lehigh Valley at 11:00 AM and the skies are very threatening.)

Pard4Life
October 27th, 2012, 11:40 AM
Game time weather:

Easton - low 60s with a 20% of rain (It began to drizzle in the Lehigh Valley at 11:00 AM and the skies are very threatening.)

I wouldn't worry about it... it has been the same weather for the past four days... not hurricane related though.

Gater
October 27th, 2012, 12:11 PM
Free link to Colgate/Bucknell video.

http://www.sportwebz.com/live/237194-ncaa-football-colgate-vs-bucknell/watch/live/stream/online/free/feed/p2p/vivo/gratis/tv/

carney2
October 27th, 2012, 12:43 PM
Free link to Colgate/Bucknell video.

http://www.sportwebz.com/live/237194-ncaa-football-colgate-vs-bucknell/watch/live/stream/online/free/feed/p2p/vivo/gratis/tv/

Thanks. Terrible camera work, but better than searching the web for scores.

7-3, 'gate very early in the 2nd.

Gater
October 27th, 2012, 01:25 PM
Camera work isn't the best but announcers are good. They are pulling for Bucknell (of course) but fair. 21-12 Colgate with one minute in the half.

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 27th, 2012, 01:33 PM
Colgate 21 Bucknell 12 Half

RichH2
October 27th, 2012, 02:48 PM
Gate giving up lots of points scoring more. Now running Bison ragged.
Very tough game for LU even at home with our inconsistent O.
Last 3 games are all going to be very very tough. I hope the bye has healed our injured.

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 27th, 2012, 02:49 PM
Holy Cross about to take down Fordham.

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 27th, 2012, 02:50 PM
Gate giving up lots of points scoring more. Now running Bison ragged.
Very tough game for LU even at home with our inconsistent O.
Last 3 games are all going to be very very tough. I hope the bye has healed our injured.

The Colgate defense is embarrassingly bad, probably one of the worst in PL history. Thankfully for them their offense is one of the best.

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 27th, 2012, 02:54 PM
Bucknell driving again. Jeremiah Young injured on a nice run....

crusader11
October 27th, 2012, 03:08 PM
Holy Cross about to take down Fordham.

Thanks for jinxing it! xbangx

TheValleyRaider
October 27th, 2012, 03:13 PM
Colgate 47
Bucknell 33
Final

RichH2
October 27th, 2012, 03:27 PM
Wow what a day. Rams pull out win at end of game.
Gate D pathetic but Q is will LU stop themselves. Doubt Gate can.

crusader11
October 27th, 2012, 03:28 PM
Incredibly tough loss to swallow today against Fordham. I thought that there was a bad non-call at the end of the game, but so be it.

At the very least, I think we should be able to give Lehigh a decent game next weekend.

Fordham
October 27th, 2012, 03:34 PM
HC played gutsy. We were lucky to win but glad we had the character to keep coming back and getting points when we needed them.

ColgateTD
October 27th, 2012, 03:40 PM
If Nick Saban doesn't join the 'Gate coaching staff this week I don't see any way they are going to beat LC or LU. Defense is nonexistant.

crusader11
October 27th, 2012, 03:43 PM
If Nick Saban doesn't join the 'Gate coaching staff this week I don't see any way they are going to beat LC or LU. Defense is nonexistant.

Both of the L's offenses aren't exactly world-beaters. Lehigh's is solid when it gets rolling, but they're just so hot and cold.

Colgate's best defense? Jordan McCord and Gavin McCarney. Just eat the clock, and limit the opposition's number of possessions.

RichH2
October 27th, 2012, 03:54 PM
Expect Cross game tight as we get back to game speed. No gimmes

Sader87
October 27th, 2012, 04:36 PM
Missed today's early contests....an HC win would have been nice in a "getting back on track" sort of way.

Bucknell scored 33 points????

Hawk98
October 27th, 2012, 04:38 PM
Missed today's early contests....an HC win would have been nice in a "getting back on track" sort of way.

Bucknell scored 33 points????

39 points in 3 PL games to date, then 33 against Gate.

ngineer
October 27th, 2012, 04:58 PM
39 points in 3 PL games to date, then 33 against Gate.

Not so. 14 against Laughyette, 19 against Lehigh and 33 against 'gate=66.

ngineer
October 27th, 2012, 04:59 PM
Holy Cross shows it can play, just not consistently...hmmm. Sound like someone we know? I'm thinking of schepping up to Worcester if this "Frankenstorm" does not wreak too much havoc around here. May be looking for riders...

LehighU11
October 27th, 2012, 05:18 PM
Not so. 14 against Laughyette, 19 against Lehigh and 33 against 'gate=66.

14 against Lepers, 6 against HC, and 19 against Lehigh were the 39. Just a TD more in those 3 games combined than what they put up against Gate.

ngineer
October 27th, 2012, 07:43 PM
14 against Lepers, 6 against HC, and 19 against Lehigh were the 39. Just a TD more in those 3 games combined than what they put up against Gate.

Got it. (;-)

thebin
October 27th, 2012, 07:52 PM
Gtown just re-took the lead, 20-17. 5 min and change left.

LehighU11
October 27th, 2012, 07:53 PM
Looks like the Pards might manage to lose their 3rd(!) straight against Georgetown. 20-17 Hoyas with less than 5 minutes remaining.

LehighU11
October 27th, 2012, 08:01 PM
Hoyas start from their own 14 after a LC punt, and avoid a scare after a recovered fumble on the return. Now 2nd and 1 on the 23.

thebin
October 27th, 2012, 08:05 PM
Gtown pick with 33 seconds left. Game over, Gtown 20-17 over the Pards.

LehighU11
October 27th, 2012, 08:09 PM
Shoop threw 3 interceptions. Pards turned the ball over 7 times! Georgetown sure has a knack for forcing turnovers.

hawkineer
October 27th, 2012, 08:11 PM
Gtown 20-17 over the Pards.xhurrayx See, you're supposed to lose if you turn the ball over 7 times.;)

LehighU11
October 27th, 2012, 08:19 PM
xhurrayx See, you're supposed to lose if you turn the ball over 7 times.;)

I'm sure the Pards could find a way to lose if the turnovers had been the other way around, almost happened against UPenn with 8. I'm sure that this will go down as another unforgivable, no-show game on carney's list.

Hawk98
October 27th, 2012, 08:25 PM
Colgate 42 - Bucknell 17
Fordham 24 - Holy Cross 20
Lafayette 17 - Georgetown 16

2-1, 12-3 ... all 3 losses from the kitties games.

Lehigh Football Nation
October 27th, 2012, 08:25 PM
I think I went undefeated last week? I honestly don't remember.

Fordham 44, Holy Cross 13 - Don't forget the Rams have four more auditions for the postseason. They need to run up scores to make their case, and Holy Cross is in their way this week.

Colgate 32, Bucknell 21 - I'd like to think homecoming will spell a win for the Bison - and it's what I'm obviously hoping for - but I just can't see it.

Georgetown 24, Lafayette 21 - This will be a much, much, much, closer game than people think.

3-0, and I was damned close on the Georgetown/Lafayette game. For some reason, Kelly and the Hoyas just know how to beat the Leopards.

LehighU11
October 27th, 2012, 08:26 PM
With plenty of near upsets in the top 10, Lehigh almost had ensured a seed should they win out. #1 EWU: loss, #2 Georgia Southern: near upset in OT, #3 NDSU: near upset, #6 ODU: near upset, #7 Wofford: near upset, #9 JMU: pathetically close 7 point home win against Ga St.

crusader11
October 27th, 2012, 08:29 PM
James Madison will lose their first playoff game. I feel really good about that.

Go...gate
October 27th, 2012, 08:37 PM
If Nick Saban doesn't join the 'Gate coaching staff this week I don't see any way they are going to beat LC or LU. Defense is nonexistant.

Almost looks like they put all the good athletes on the offense and whoever was left was assigned to defense. Reminiscent of the Wheelright years when Colgate could not stop anyone and had high-scoring games nearly every week. No way we beat the L's or Fordham like this.

LehighU11
October 27th, 2012, 08:38 PM
Going with a "bunch of maroons"
COLGATE @ BUCKNELL The 'Gate will put up more than LU against the Bison, 49-20.
FORDHAM @ HOLY CROSS A down year for the 'saders doesn't get much better, 27-17.
GEORGETOWN @ LAFAYETTE Pards avenge the FiOS Fiasco at MSF and remain undefeated in league play, 7-27.

Because I'm a glutton for punishment and enjoy watching Lehigh struggle to show up for a full 60 minutes every week, I'm headed up to Manhattan on the bye week to see Columbia host Yale in what could be the battle for last in the Ivy League. Pulling for a Lions' win. Lions 17, Eli 10.

2-1. Learned my lesson, never pick the Pards in a game they should win with relative ease. Columbia beat Yale for just the 19th time in 89 meetings though!

LehighU11
October 27th, 2012, 08:40 PM
James Madison will lose their first playoff game. I feel really good about that.

JMU is a very overrated team. They also came close to getting knocked out last year in the 1st round at Eastern Kentucky. Only won by a game ending field goal.

RichH2
October 27th, 2012, 08:51 PM
What a day continues. Pards blow game w 7 TOs. Their O may be more inconsistent than ours. Gtta stop picking them.

CFBfan
October 27th, 2012, 10:57 PM
2-1. Learned my lesson, never pick the Pards in a game they should win with relative ease. Columbia beat Yale for just the 19th time in 89 meetings though!

Lehigh was lucky to get a win over Georgetown so how was Lafayette supposed to "win with relative ease"??? think before you type!

Sader87
October 27th, 2012, 11:04 PM
Holy Cross is the best 1-7 team in the country....there I said it.

LehighU11
October 27th, 2012, 11:08 PM
Lehigh was lucky to get a win over Georgetown so how was Lafayette supposed to "win with relative ease"??? think before you type!
Stop your endless complaining. Note I said "relative" ease, not claiming it should have been a blow out. Georgetown has been depleted offensively this year and were on the road against a tough defense and talented QB. I didn't mention Lehigh anywhere in here. Lafayette is a much stronger team than the Hoyas; however, they have questionable coaching and are incredibly inconsistent, which makes them capable of losing against even the worst competition (see Robert Morris, a 2-6 NEC bottomfeeder).

LehighU11
October 27th, 2012, 11:13 PM
Holy Cross is the best 1-7 team in the country....there I said it.

I think only Weber State could possibly be considered better than HC at 1-7. They beat Southern Utah on the road last week, who of course knocked off Eastern Washington today. Like the Crusaders, Weber State also has several close losses, losing by a TD or less to EWU and Sac St.

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 28th, 2012, 01:00 AM
The last PL team to beat Lehigh is Holy Cross way back on 11/7/09.

Montana State had their bye last week and put together a dominant performance against a decent UND team. I hope the return of some key players and added rest propels LU like it did MSU.

CFBfan
October 28th, 2012, 09:22 AM
Stop your endless complaining. Note I said "relative" ease, not claiming it should have been a blow out. Georgetown has been depleted offensively this year and were on the road against a tough defense and talented QB. I didn't mention Lehigh anywhere in here. Lafayette is a much stronger team than the Hoyas; however, they have questionable coaching and are incredibly inconsistent, which makes them capable of losing against even the worst competition (see Robert Morris, a 2-6 NEC bottomfeeder).

Not ONE point you made is accurate....but nice try

LehighU11
October 28th, 2012, 10:01 AM
Not ONE point you made is accurate....but nice try

I'm pretty sure Lafayette is indeed inconsistent and has questionable coaching, but you can check with Pards fans in case I'm mistaken. Always nice to see a troll rear its ugly head after a few weeks, especially when it last appeared after a Georgetown loss to Lehigh :D. I'll consider you to be the lunatic fringe of the Hoyas' fan base xrotatehx

thebin
October 28th, 2012, 10:07 AM
Stop your endless complaining. Note I said "relative" ease, not claiming it should have been a blow out. Georgetown has been depleted offensively this year and were on the road against a tough defense and talented QB. I didn't mention Lehigh anywhere in here. Lafayette is a much stronger team than the Hoyas; however, they have questionable coaching and are incredibly inconsistent, which makes them capable of losing against even the worst competition (see Robert Morris, a 2-6 NEC bottomfeeder).

So Gtown just beat LC on the road and still u maintain that LC isnt merely "better" but actually "much better" than the Hoyas. Amazing. I dont even know why they bother playing the games anymore. Just ask this a$$clown to hand out the pl trophy every Fall without regard to pesky things like actual on the field results and lets all save a lotta time and energy.

LehighU11
October 28th, 2012, 10:11 AM
The last PL team to beat Lehigh is Holy Cross way back on 11/7/09.

Montana State had their bye last week and put together a dominant performance against a decent UND team. I hope the return of some key players and added rest propels LU like it did MSU.

Luckily we don't have to face Dominic Randolph anymore. Despite that game being a loss, I consider it to be the turning point for the program after a rough few years. The 'saders came in ranked 13th or 14th in the country at 7-1 against our 2-6 squad. I felt Lehigh outplayed them the entire game, and they almost won had it not been for an 81 yard drive culminating with a TD pass from Randolph to the dangerous Freddie Santana with just over a minute remaining. Final was 24-20. Lehigh outgained HC on the day by a few yards and really pressured Randolph all game long, sacking him 3 times. The next week they beat a Fordham team led by John Skelton, and haven't lost a PL game since. Let's hope the streak continues at least 3 more.

ColgateTD
October 28th, 2012, 10:34 AM
2-1. Learned my lesson, never pick the Pards in a game they should win with relative ease.

Same here. Is it just me or do others see a great deal of parity in the PL this season? Despite HC's record they were in our game with them until the end, and the Hoyas were giving us fits all day. I think anyone can beat any other team on any given day this year. I would not be surprised by any results I see henceforth. A little suprised by the Pards' loss, but I don't want to make them mad until after next weekend :)

Engineer86
October 28th, 2012, 10:47 AM
Same here. Is it just me or do others see a great deal of parity in the PL this season? Despite HC's record they were in our game with them until the end, and the Hoyas were giving us fits all day. I think anyone can beat any other team on any given day this year. I would not be surprised by any results I see henceforth. A little suprised by the Pards' loss, but I don't want to make them mad until after next weekend :)

The Pards are horrible, you will kill them! :D

RichH2
October 28th, 2012, 10:58 AM
Parity indeed. No gimmes for anyone. Pards have killed me this yr. If possible their O even more inconsistent than LU's.

Sader87
October 28th, 2012, 11:22 AM
First "losing week" of the year, 1-2...Pards and Saders got me....31-14 on the campaign.

Very pleasantly surprise that there was close to 11K at Fitton yesterday...the support is still there, just need to get some W's to end the season to build on going into 2013.

Pard4Life
October 28th, 2012, 11:44 AM
Stop your endless complaining. Note I said "relative" ease, not claiming it should have been a blow out. Georgetown has been depleted offensively this year and were on the road against a tough defense and talented QB. I didn't mention Lehigh anywhere in here. Lafayette is a much stronger team than the Hoyas; however, they have questionable coaching and are incredibly inconsistent, which makes them capable of losing against even the worst competition (see Robert Morris, a 2-6 NEC bottomfeeder).

I was speaking with a local on the way out yesterday who was a fan of neither team... he said without a doubt Lafayette should have won the game and were better overall with regard to position-by-position ratings, but the TOs, bad play calling, mental mistakes, and the D being worn down at the end lost the game.

thebin
October 28th, 2012, 11:48 AM
I was speaking with a local on the way out yesterday who was a fan of neither team... he said without a doubt Lafayette should have won the game and were better overall with regard to position-by-position ratings, but the TOs, bad play calling, mental mistakes, and the D being worn down at the end lost the game.

That and a dollar fifty will get you a can of Coke.

CFBfan
October 28th, 2012, 11:56 AM
I was speaking with a local on the way out yesterday who was a fan of neither team... he said without a doubt Lafayette should have won the game and were better overall with regard to position-by-position ratings, but the TOs, bad play calling, mental mistakes, and the D being worn down at the end lost the game.

The HOYA D played a VERY good game AND was and is BETTER then the Pard D period!!! The LC play calling was NOT bad you just couldn't execute against a VERY good HOYA D!!!! STOP WHINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it's unbecoming of you and more fitting of a LU fan

Sader87
October 28th, 2012, 12:49 PM
I liked it better when GTown sucked....xslapfightx

thebin
October 28th, 2012, 12:51 PM
I liked it better when GTown sucked....xslapfightx

Lol.

LehighU11
October 28th, 2012, 12:52 PM
First "losing week" of the year, 1-2...Pards and Saders got me....31-14 on the campaign.

Very pleasantly surprise that there was close to 11K at Fitton yesterday...the support is still there, just need to get some W's to end the season to build on going into 2013.

I was very impressed to see that many in attendance. It would be nice if we could break 10K at Goodman, especially since the team has had a great deal of success the past three seasons. What was the deal with the Colgate game attendance then?

Holy Cross is just having one of those years. Certainly frustrating. That's three close losses against some solid Brown and Fordham teams, as well as Dartmouth. Reminds me of Lehigh in '09: started off 2-7 with 5 losses by 7 points or less. Wound up beating Fordham and Lafayette to end the season after nearly knocking off your ranked Saders.

LehighU11
October 28th, 2012, 12:55 PM
I liked it better when GTown sucked....xslapfightx

We all did, that's why the PL voted yes on scholarships.

CFBfan
October 28th, 2012, 01:23 PM
I'm pretty sure Lafayette is indeed inconsistent and has questionable coaching, but you can check with Pards fans in case I'm mistaken. Always nice to see a troll rear its ugly head after a few weeks, especially when it last appeared after a Georgetown loss to Lehigh :D. I'll consider you to be the lunatic fringe of the Hoyas' fan base xrotatehx

your consideration is worthless and meaningless to mean but carry on cry baby

Franks Tanks
October 28th, 2012, 02:27 PM
The HOYA D played a VERY good game AND was and is BETTER then the Pard D period!!! The LC play calling was NOT bad you just couldn't execute against a VERY good HOYA D!!!! STOP WHINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it's unbecoming of you and more fitting of a LU fan

Lafayette lost because we had 7 turnovers and have a crappy head coach. The Hoya D aint so great, otherwise you would've held Colgate under 50 and maybe beat a very medicore Yale team. The Georgetown D is competent, but nothing about Georgetown is very good. I think you can say 2 or 3 of the turnovers were forced by Georgetwon stripping the ball or making a very good play. The others were bonehead plays by us. If we ever get a coach watch out.

Pard4Life
October 28th, 2012, 04:43 PM
Lafayette lost because we had 7 turnovers and have a crappy head coach. The Hoya D aint so great, otherwise you would've held Colgate under 50 and maybe beat a very medicore Yale team. The Georgetown D is competent, but nothing about Georgetown is very good. I think you can say 2 or 3 of the turnovers were forced by Georgetwon stripping the ball or making a very good play. The others were bonehead plays by us. If we ever get a coach watch out.

Credit Gtown though, I thought their secondary coverage was very strong and their frosh QB definitely has potential.

thebin
October 28th, 2012, 04:45 PM
Lafayette lost because we had 7 turnovers and have a crappy head coach. The Hoya D aint so great, otherwise you would've held Colgate under 50 and maybe beat a very medicore Yale team. The Georgetown D is competent, but nothing about Georgetown is very good. I think you can say 2 or 3 of the turnovers were forced by Georgetwon stripping the ball or making a very good play. The others were bonehead plays by us. If we ever get a coach watch out.

Do u realize how weak this crap sounds, particularly since your football budget is nearly triple gtown's? Suck it up when u lose. So pathetic.