Holy Cross @ Colgate - The 75th Meeting

[crusader11]

I think the ValleyRaider usually posts these threads, but I haven't seen one yet (sorry for stealing your thunder if you were planning on doing one, but just wanted to get this started).

HC has won four of the last five meetings against Colgate.

This will be a real challenge for HC. Colgate, in my mind, has had the most impressive performance in the PL to date with a 32-31 loss to Stony Brook (a legitimate top 10 FCS team).

Colgate has a very mediocre defense, but a strong offensive attack. They are more proficient at throwing the ball this year than they have been in past years. HC has usually had success slowing down Colgate's running attack though.

I am put at ease knowing that HC has a week of no classes. The usual allotment of practices, loads of film, Elder with a game under his belt, HC always seeming to play their best against Colgate.

This game reminds me a lot of the game in 2010 in Hamilton.

HC entered the game with a 3-4 record and was coming off a terrible loss at Dartmouth. They also had early season blowouts against UMass and Harvard, and a tough loss at Georgetown. Things looked very bleak, especially with Colgate coming in with a 4-2 mark and three straights wins (Georgetown, Princeton, Cornell) by an average score of 40.6 - 5.3

Well, the Saders jumped out to a 24-7 halftime lead, and Billy Edger caught a touchdown with five seconds left in the 4th quarter to win the game.

That was a fun ride home.

This year, HC comes in limping -- literally -- with a 1-4 record, and Colgate seems to be peaking having won two of three and nearly beating Stony Brook.

Prediction: Holy Cross 24 - Colgate 21

[TheValleyRaider]

I think the ValleyRaider usually posts these threads, but I haven't seen one yet (sorry for stealing your thunder if you were planning on doing one, but just wanted to get this started).

Great minds xthumbsupx

Except for that whole 2010 loss. Still unhappy about that one. Would much rather talk about 2008. Or how we went 4-0 vs. the Cross when I was at Colgate ('03-'06) :D

All-time series is 40-29-5 to Holy Cross (the only PL school we don't have a winning record against)

Happy 75th Raiders-Crusaders

Let's Go 'Gate!

[crusader11]

HC won and will defer to the second half.

Got to stop the McC's on this first drive. Can't let them get going early.

[TheValleyRaider]

3rd and 1 at midfield, McCarney keeps in the read option and there...he...goes! TOUCHDOWN!

7-0 Colgate
Early 1st

[TheValleyRaider]

Holy Cross comes back with a long TD pass

7-7

[TheValleyRaider]

Colgate responds with another big drive, capped off by a McCord 2 yard TOUCHDOWN!! Burgess, though, misses the PAT

13-7 Colgate
8:59 1st

[Bogus Megapardus]

This is the PL's best game this week. Watching Pards @ Yale but it's like watching paint dry.

Any stream available for HC/Gate?

[Gater]

Colgate's offense is off to a great start. McCarney has about 80 yards rushing. Defense makes a good stop. Is #34 the linebacker out for Holy Cross out? Seems like he is a big part of their d.

[Gater]

This is the video link but it costs $.
http://www.gocolgateraiders.com/showcase/#Live/541

[Gater]

Colgate moves right down the field but fumbles. Holy Cross ball on the 10.

[Gater]

Huge momentum shift. Colgate had the ball on the Holy Cross 2 and didn't score. Holy Cross moving the ball.

[TheValleyRaider]

Holy Cross 7
Colgate 13
End 1st

Crusaders driving after the fumble and a questionable (in my eyes) PI call. Certainly picking up good chunks of yards

[TheValleyRaider]

Crusaders cap off the drive with a short TD run

14-13 Holy Cross

[crusader11]

Patriot League - meet Steve Elder.

[Gater]

Is the audio out on your feed?

Holy Cross marches right down and scores.
14-13.

[crusader11]

Lost the audio...

[TheValleyRaider]

Raider drive stalls in HC territory, and the 36 yard FG attempt is...GOOD!

16-14 Colgate

[TheValleyRaider]

Lost the audio...

Yeah, they cut out at the end of the quarter (presumably for commercials they don't want to air), and have yet to come back

[Gater]

Here is Colgate radio. It's one play behind.
http://wkxzfm.com/listen-live/popup/

Colgate is held to a 35 yard field goal. 16-14 Colgate.

[Gater]

Side arm said they contacted the school.

[TheValleyRaider]

Audio's back

[crusader11]

Side arm said they contacted the school.

Refund?

[TheValleyRaider]

HC rips up the Colgate defense, Elder takes it himself for a TD. PAT shanked, commentators talking about wind

20-16 Holy Cross

[Gater]

Refund is score dependent.

Holy Cross marches right down the field. Middle of Colgate defense is wide open for Holy Cross' passing. Missed extra point. 20-16 Holy Cross.

[Gater]

Colgate 3rd and goal. Needs a TD here.

[TheValleyRaider]

McCarney takes it in again from 3 yards out, TOUCHDOWN!!!

23-20 Colgate
1:35 2nd

[Gater]

Huge play (that I didn't see with the feed going out). Colgate needs to score on every drive.

[Gater]

Big stop for 'Gate!

[TheValleyRaider]

Defense makes a stand, offense runs out the clock

Holy Cross 20
Colgate 23
Halftime

[crusader11]

Colgate color guy getting a tad aggressive with some of his comments towards Tom Gilmore: "cocky", "lacks character", "hothead" etc. Wow.

[Go...gate]

Classic Colgate-Holy Cross game.

[crusader11]

Not sure what his name is, but he mentioned that he lost to HC three out of four times while playing at Colgate...guess we know where he gets his bias from.

[Gater]

Colgate has 330 yards in first half.
Holy Cross has 257.
Colgate averaging 9 yards per play. Holy Cross 8.
Colgate had ball first.
Holy Cross QB is playing very well.
Which defense will make the better half time adjustments?

[Gater]

Doug Rosnick. Former receiver. His talking about Gilmore was not his finest moment as a first year commentator. Probably doesn't say it if Colgate hadn't lost three in a row to Holy Cross.

[TheValleyRaider]

Doug Rosnick. Former receiver. His talking about Gilmore was not his finest moment as a first year commentator. Probably doesn't say it if Colgate hadn't lost three in a row to Holy Cross.

True story. Has some interesting insights, but talks quite a bit. Clearly still getting used to the gig. What happened to the TE from the 80s who was the color guy the last couple of years?

[Gater]

Saying the "Chief got knocked off his high horse" when Colgate's leading tackler is lying on the ground injured is also not one of his finest moments.

[TheValleyRaider]

HC goes for it on 4th and 1 at the 'Gate 40, tried the play-action deep ball and overthrew the receiver. Big turn of events?

[Gater]

Colgate gets big stop on 4th down. Colgate moving the ball.

[Gater]

Big score for Colgate 30-20. Colgate's offense looks incredible today. Good things happen when McCarney has the ball.

[TheValleyRaider]

McCord right up the middle from 3 yards out, TOUCHDOWN!!!!

30-20 Colgate

[crusader11]

"We hate these guys"...another gem from the Colgate broadcast.

[TheValleyRaider]

"We hate these guys"...another gem from the Colgate broadcast.

Not defending the statement, but it does seem chippy out there. Certainly get the sense the players aren't fond of one another

[TheValleyRaider]

HC goes right down the field again, another short TD run to end the drive. Neither defense looks particularly stout

30-27 Colgate

[Gater]

Holy Cross marches right down and scores. 30-27.

The play-by-play is great. Rosnick (on color) has to remember he is not in the DU tv room. Insights are great. Slights not so much. Announcers probably shouldn't be clapping for good Colgate plays. Don't know how much I blame Rosnick but the show's producer needs to shut it down. Rosnick needs to remember how frustrating it is to listen to another team's homer. If you are going to do a job, be a professional. I'm sure he will get better.

[TheValleyRaider]

Another drive of big runs, another short run by McCord for the TOUCHDOWN!!!!!

37-27 Colgate
Late 3rd

[Gater]

Rosnick talking about himself very far away from the microphone as McCord scores. 37-27.

[crusader11]

Rosnick now predicting a Holy Cross fumble or interception. Someone really does need to tell him to stop.

[Gater]

Rosnick talking about "enjoying the win" up 10 in the third. Colgate defense stepping it up.

[TheValleyRaider]

Big sack sets up 3rd and long for HC as the clock runs out

Holy Cross 27
Colgate 37
End 3rd

[crusader11]

Rosnick talking about Colgate "punching it in" from their own 20 yard line, and Holy Cross getting ready to "pack it in". Love the claps after a positive play for Colgate.

[crusader11]

"Burn this town down tonight"...I'll give it to him, he's got some awesome one liners.

[Go...gate]

Does Bob Fouracre still do the HC games?

[TheValleyRaider]

4th down deep in Crusader territory, McCarney throws, finds Looney at the 2, and he's in! TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!

44-27 Colgate
11:45 4th

[crusader11]

Does Bob Fouracre still do the HC games?

Yes...and he is equally bad for both teams.

[Gater]

Rosnick talking for entire McCord 7 yard run. This feels like a pre season game broadcast where you don't pay attention to what is happening on the field. Also, Rosnick is far enough away from the microphone that he sounds like your uncle calling out from the bathroom. Someone needs to teach him and correct him as he goes. He could be great at it.

That being said, Colgate's offense is on fire.

[Go...gate]

4th down deep in Crusader territory, McCarney throws, finds Looney at the 2, and he's in! TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!

44-27 Colgate
11:45 4th

Colgate, in that Third Quarter, resembled Colgate in the Third Quarter of the Sacred Heart game. They have to sustain it to win against Cross, however.

[Gater]

Colgate seems to make great defensive adjustments at halftime. They need to figure out how to do that before the half. Totally different team.

[crusader11]

"As a fan and alumni here, you've got to love watching him do this." Well, thanks Doug for coming clean, at least.

[crusader11]

As for the game itself...HC defense needs work, no doubt about it, but I have been very impressed with Colgate's offense. Could be the best in the Patriot League.

Gavin McCarney is quite the college football player. He sells the fakes exceptionally well and makes good decisions.

Colgate's offensive line is also moving the HC d-line wherever they want.

[TheValleyRaider]

McCord right up the middle for his fourth TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!!

51-27 Colgate

[Gater]

McCarney has grown into one of the best QBs' Colgate has seen. Colgate goes over 50. Hopefully, Colgate pulls the offensive starters. Need to keep these guys healthy.

Not sure what happened to the Holy Cross offense/QB. They/he looked like world-beaters until the last drive of the first half.

[Sader87]

Congrats Colgate....I'm throwing in the towel on this game.

[TheValleyRaider]

Holy Cross moves the ball, Elder finds Mastretta (sp?) in the end zone on a 4th down play for the TD. HC goes for two, and it's good

51-35 Colgate
3:22 4th

[crusader11]

"They need to retire this guy (Gilmore)"...oh Douglas, enough is enough.

[Gater]

Holy Cross scores to cut it to 16. Seems like you guys always have great QB's.

[TheValleyRaider]

HC lines up for an onside kick from the 50 (Colgate penalty on the 2-pt play), they try to pooch it over the coverage, but it just makes it out-of-bounds. Colgate ball

[Go...gate]

An entertaining game, as always with these two clubs.

[Gater]

Holy Cross turns it over on downs. That team wouldn't quit. Good luck the rest of the way. Always great to get a win against Cross.

[TheValleyRaider]

Holy Cross 35
Colgate 51
Final

[Bogus Megapardus]

Congrats to Gate. Huge offensive effort.

[TheValleyRaider]

Good things
-The offense. Holy cow, can we move the ball. McCarney and McCord are dangerous, the receivers make some good catches, the offensive line gets stronger as the game goes along. Good, good, good
-McCarney and McCord each rush for 180+ yards, another 160 through the air for McCarney. Gamers all around

Not so good things
-First half defense. Yikes. There were some adjustments in the 2nd half, but still giving up chunks of yards at a time. Some credit to Holy Cross, Elder in particular looks like a keeper, but that needs to improve if this team is really going to take the title. I suppose we could go the West Virginia route of forcing you to keep up, but that seems like it could backfire

Great win, always nice to beat the Crusaders, especially after the last couple of years. Nice to hang out in the thread with fellow 'Gaters and the HC fans as well. Here's to 75 more meetings xbeerchugx

Bring on the Hoyas!

[OL FU]

Someone point me to the Crapsville Bar

[Gater]

There is a Furman guy wandering around in this thread. Must have been a tough day.

[Sader87]

That was actually a very enjoyable game to watch (save for the result)...obviously I'm an "offense guy."

Much better game than it may seem on paper...Gate converted a 4th for a TD, we didn't convert a 4th and 1....basically the difference.

[Gater]

'Gate was only up by three with a few minutes left in the third. Whatever Colgate did (or Holy Cross didn't do) to shut down the Cross passing to the middle of the field was the difference. Good luck the rest of the way.