The Sagarin Computer Rankings are in for the week ...

[coover]

The Sagarin Computer Rankings are now "Well Connected" and no longer consider "Pre-season" ratings. I list the FCS teams here ... the last number is his ranking against ALL Division I schools.

1. North Dakota State- 37
2. Eastern Washington - 79
3. Georgia Southern - 83
4. Harvard - 85
5. Cal Poly - 86
6. Wofford - 93
7. James Madison - 94
8. Northern Iowa - 95
9. Old Dominion - 99
10. Youngstown State - 105
11. Montana - 108
12. New Hampshire - 110
13. Montana State - 111
14. Appalachian State - 112
15. Stoney Brook - 114
16. Northern Arizona - 115
17. Richmond - 117
18. South Dakota State - 118
19. Sam Houston State - 119
20. Villanova - 122
21. Albany - 125
22. Illinois State - 126
23. Central Arkansas - 128
24. Indiana State - 130
25. Maine - 131

[danefan]

Still can't figure out the Harvard rating.

[JMUNJ08]

well at least at 4-1 we are above a 1-4 team...

[KTF]

@coover, even though we all know that NDSU is #37, you may want to fix your list before some NDSU fan jumps on you about it. They are kind of sensitive about NDSU-UND mixups...

[Gil Dobie]

@coover, even though we all know that NDSU is #37, you may want to fix your list before some NDSU fan jumps on you about it. They are kind of sensitive about NDSU-UND mixups...

I was wondering how UND got to #1 after a loss to EWU?

[coover]

@coover, even though we all know that NDSU is #37, you may want to fix your list before some NDSU fan jumps on you about it. They are kind of sensitive about NDSU-UND mixups...

Thanks and done!

[kingranch]

what is the highest an fcs team has been ranked in sagarin, 37 is pretty damn high?

[HailSzczur]

what is the highest an fcs team has been ranked in sagarin, 37 is pretty damn high?

NDSU finished last year at 37. I know when we won the NC we were 30. It's impressive to be that far up this early though

[JMUNJ08]

Harvard, UNI & Montana have to be the biggest eye sores on this list... Harvard may be ranked this week at least but yeah, not at #4...

[tingly]

I've seen FCS in the top 30 a loooong time ago. Ivy League never gets all that well-connected despite Sagarin's claim. It's more like this is as well-connected as the Ivies are gonna get and wackiness ensues.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Past two NC's 1 and 2. I like it. That would be an EPIC title game.

[No_Skill]

Past two NC's 1 and 2. I like it. That would be an EPIC title game.

Might not be much of a game...notice the difference in ranking. ;)

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Might not be much of a game...notice the difference in ranking. ;)

Yep, because ranking decides the games. Bi-son would fumble it away again. xcoffeex

[No_Skill]

Yep, because ranking decides the games. Bi-son would fumble it away again. xcoffeex

You better not lose another game or you may have to come to our house this time...if you can get a ticket. xcoffeex

[crusader11]

No Lehigh.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

You better not lose another game or you may have to come to our house this time...if you can get a ticket. xcoffeex

How much of a jump in the suicide rate in Fargo if EWU won in OT on an NDSU fumble? xlolx

[Screamin_Eagle174]

No Lehigh.

Their record merits a ranking, but they've played no one, while squeaking by all of them. I have not been high on Lehigh at all.

[crusader11]

Their record merits a ranking, but they've played no one, while squeaking by all of them. I have not been high on Lehigh at all.

Nor have I. They're somewhere in the 15-20 range, in my opinion.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Nor have I. They're somewhere in the 15-20 range, in my opinion.

Agreed.

[LEHIGH61]

A schedule is a schedule. Can't change it now. Lehigh still has a lot of potential if they can get consistent, Injuries on offensive line have not helped. They are finding ways to win, despite their problems. And there are other teams that really haven't played anyone, but are not 6-0. That's how most teams go undefeated - by winning the close ones. Stick around, you may be surprised.

[frozennorth]

what is the highest an fcs team has been ranked in sagarin, 37 is pretty damn high?

ndsu made it to 18th in 2007.

[frozennorth]

How much of a jump in the suicide rate in Fargo if EWU won in OT on an NDSU fumble? xlolx

considering you would likely be 3 touchdown underdogs, I don't think we should be concerned.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

A schedule is a schedule. Can't change it now. Lehigh still has a lot of potential if they can get consistent, Injuries on offensive line have not helped. They are finding ways to win, despite their problems. And there are other teams that really haven't played anyone, but are not 6-0. That's how most teams go undefeated - by winning the close ones. Stick around, you may be surprised.

Unless Lehigh gets a patsy in the first round of the playoffs, they will be one and done. And by patsy, I mean any team not in the Big Sky, MVFC, CAA, Socon, or Southland.

[UNH Fanboi]

Still can't figure out the Harvard rating.

Same thing happened last year, but not in the years before that. With the small sample of OOC games, it's easier for the Ivies to be skewed in one direction or the other.

[Engineer86]

Unless Lehigh gets a patsy in the first round of the playoffs, they will be one and done. And by patsy, I mean any team not in the Big Sky, MVFC, CAA, Socon, or Southland.

When was this posted today??? Last year??? Or 2010??? We here the same thing every year. Keep thinking this and tell all your players.xthumbsupxxbowxxblahx

[tingly]

Self has NDSU at #19. https://raw.github.com/jeffself/collegefootballrankings/master/cfrank2012.txt

[HensRock]

No Lehigh.

Gee, and none of Lehigh's opponents this year either. Hmmm......

[HensRock]

The Sagarin Computer Rankings are now "Well Connected" and no longer consider "Pre-season" ratings. I list the FCS teams here ... the last number is his ranking against ALL Division I schools.

1. North Dakota State- 37
2. Eastern Washington - 79
3. Georgia Southern - 83
4. Harvard - 85
5. Cal Poly - 86
6. Wofford - 93
7. James Madison - 94
8. Northern Iowa - 95
9. Old Dominion - 99
10. Youngstown State - 105
11. Montana - 108
12. New Hampshire - 110
13. Montana State - 111
14. Appalachian State - 112
15. Stoney Brook - 114
16. Northern Arizona - 115
17. Richmond - 117
18. South Dakota State - 118
19. Sam Houston State - 119
20. Villanova - 122
21. Albany - 125
22. Illinois State - 126
23. Central Arkansas - 128
24. Indiana State - 130
25. Maine - 131

I like this. It looks pretty similar to my AGS vote actually. Thank God, Delaware finally dropped off the Sagarin. Only real surprise for me is Richmond. I'll have to take a look at the Spiders.

[darell1976]

The Sagarin Computer Rankings are now "Well Connected" and no longer consider "Pre-season" ratings. I list the FCS teams here ... the last number is his ranking against ALL Division I schools.

1. North Dakota State- 37
2. Eastern Washington - 79
3. Georgia Southern - 83
4. Harvard - 85
5. Cal Poly - 86
6. Wofford - 93
7. James Madison - 94
8. Northern Iowa - 95
9. Old Dominion - 99
10. Youngstown State - 105
11. Montana - 108
12. New Hampshire - 110
13. Montana State - 111
14. Appalachian State - 112
15. Stoney Brook - 114
16. Northern Arizona - 115
17. Richmond - 117
18. South Dakota State - 118
19. Sam Houston State - 119
20. Villanova - 122
21. Albany - 125
22. Illinois State - 126
23. Central Arkansas - 128
24. Indiana State - 130
25. Maine - 131

UND still has to play #16, #11, and #13 in our 5 game of hell streak (we already played #5 and #2).

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Unless Lehigh gets a patsy in the first round of the playoffs, they will be one and done. And by patsy, I mean any team not in the Big Sky, MVFC, CAA, Socon, or Southland.

Lehigh is something like 6-1 in the first/second round over the last 15 years. I would love to see them get a shot against some one like Montana State, NAU or Illinois State.

[Ivytalk]

UND still has to play #16, #11, and #13 in our 5 game of hell streak (we already played #5 and #2).

Harvard at least played you guys in ice hockey last year!xlolx

[coover]

UND still has to play #16, #11, and #13 in our 5 game of hell streak (we already played #5 and #2).

And that, Darell, is the Big Sky.

By the way, have you noticed how all the former Great West Schools are doing ... North Dakota, North Dakota State, South Dakota, South Dakota State, Southern Utah, Cal Poly, UC Davis. It was a pretty good league while it lasted!

[darell1976]

And that, Darell, is the Big Sky.

By the way, have you noticed how all the former Great West Schools are doing ... North Dakota, North Dakota State, South Dakota, South Dakota State, Southern Utah, Cal Poly, UC Davis. It was a pretty good league while it lasted!

Don't forget Northern Colorado.:D

[darell1976]

Harvard at least played you guys in ice hockey last year!xlolx

I was at that game. Ended in a tie. Good game.

[CorrosionDoc]

I like this. It looks pretty similar to my AGS vote actually. Thank God, Delaware finally dropped off the Sagarin. Only real surprise for me is Richmond. I'll have to take a look at the Spiders.

Just to clarify... You like having Montana at 11? The same Montana that is 1-2 in conference? Seems to be an instance of the past influencing the present.

[Engineer86]

I like this. It looks pretty similar to my AGS vote actually. Thank God, Delaware finally dropped off the Sagarin. Only real surprise for me is Richmond. I'll have to take a look at the Spiders.

You seem like the type that would have Harvard #4 xlolx

[JMUNJ08]

Lehigh is something like 6-1 in the first/second round over the last 15 years. I would love to see them get a shot against some one like Montana State, NAU or Illinois State.

So JMU in 04 was the only loss? :)

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Lehigh is something like 6-1 in the first/second round over the last 15 years. I would love to see them get a shot against some one like Montana State, NAU or Illinois State.

A 10 point win over Monmouth, 3 point win over Princeton, 3 point win over Fordham, and a 2 point win over Liberty don't exactly inspire a lot of confidence. When two 35-14 wins over CCSU and Columbia are your best wins, you've got issues.

Also, all 6 opponents are a combined 10-18 against D-I competition, mostly from relatively weak conferences.

[coover]

Just to clarify... You like having Montana at 11? The same Montana that is 1-2 in conference? Seems to be an instance of the past influencing the present.It's not that I agree that Montana should be #11, but the truth is that the past (that is, games last year and before) and pre-season ratings are not considered by Sagarins computer. With the teams "Well connected", the only games that count for the calculation are the games played this year. You may disagree with the way Sagarins calculates, but you cannot disagree that the results are based on opinion or reputation. They are not!

[grayghost06]

what is the highest an fcs team has been ranked in sagarin, 37 is pretty damn high?

Highest finishes by an FCS Champion by rank:
30th- '09 Villanova
36th- '04 JMU
37th- '11 NDSU
40th- '03 Delaware
41st- '08 Richmond

Highest finish by an FCS Champion by rating:
78.64- '09 Villanova
76.60- '11 NDSU
76.34- '04 JMU
76.23- '08 Richmond
76.15- '03 Delaware

[frozennorth]

Highest finishes by an FCS Champion by rank:
30th- '09 Villanova
36th- '04 JMU
37th- '11 NDSU
40th- '03 Delaware
41st- '08 Richmond

Highest finish by an FCS Champion by rating:
78.64- '09 Villanova
76.60- '11 NDSU
76.34- '04 JMU
76.23- '08 Richmond
76.15- '03 Delaware

how far back does this go?

[CorrosionDoc]

It's not that I agree that Montana should be #11, but the truth is that the past (that is, games last year and before) and pre-season ratings are not considered by Sagarins computer. With the teams "Well connected", the only games that count for the calculation are the games played this year. You may disagree with the way Sagarins calculates, but you cannot disagree that the results are based on opinion or reputation. They are not!

No, I fully understand that Sagarins ratings are not based on previous years' results. But my point is that Montana shouldn't be ranked #11. For some person (not a computer algorithm) to think they SHOULD be #11 would clearly not be based on what they've demonstrated this year and thus would presumably be influenced by their historical performance.

[MTfan4life]

Harvard, UNI & Montana have to be the biggest eye sores on this list... Harvard may be ranked this week at least but yeah, not at #4...

PAllen will have them top 3 after Youngstown lost. NDSU will probably drop down to 13, though. Just below Dartmouth.

[grayghost06]

how far back does this go?

1998 is as far back as the archives go

[Hawk98]

So JMU in 04 was the only loss? :)

I personally refuse to even acknowledge that loss after the refs gave JMU 8 tries to score from the 2. :)

[grayghost06]

I personally refuse to even acknowledge that loss after the refs gave JMU 8 tries to score from the 2. :)

You guys woulda won if you still played in Taylor...that was great atmosphere!

[JMUNJ08]

I personally refuse to even acknowledge that loss after the refs gave JMU 8 tries to score from the 2. :)

It was only 7 goal to go plays....;)

[Hawk98]

It was only 7 goal to go plays....;)

Was it ... I thought they called the penalty on 4th down and then JMU scored on the next 4th down.

[I-16Bandit]

Self has NDSU at #19. https://raw.github.com/jeffself/collegefootballrankings/master/cfrank2012.txt

NDSU is really, really good. But this is going a bit far.

[HensRock]

UND still has to play #16, #11, and #13 in our 5 game of hell streak (we already played #5 and #2).


Georgia State's schedule includes:
#7 JMU
#9 ODU
#12 UNH
#17 Richmond
#20 Villanova
#25 Maine

...plus FBS Tennessee