TSN Poll (Week 2)

[danefan]

Team (First-place votes)
2012 Record
Points
Previous Rank


1.
North Dakota State Bison (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/gateway/teamsn.aspx?id=713) (94)
2-0
3946
2


2.
Sam Houston State Bearkats (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/southland/teamsn.aspx?id=593) (61)
1-0
3897
1


3.
Montana State Bobcats (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/bigsky/teamsn.aspx?id=549) (1)
2-0
3485
4


4.
James Madison Dukes (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/colonial/teamsn.aspx?id=520) (1)
2-0
3398
5


5.
Youngstown State Penguins (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/gateway/teamsn.aspx?id=641) (4)
2-0
3367
6


6.
Old Dominion Monarchs (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/colonial/teamsn.aspx?id=YX1)
2-0
3037
7


7.
Northern Iowa Panthers (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/gateway/teamsn.aspx?id=568)
1-1
2884
8


8.
Appalachian State Mountaineers (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/southern/teamsn.aspx?id=456)
1-1
2796
11


9.
Wofford Terriers (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/southern/teamsn.aspx?id=636)
2-0
2554
10


10.
Eastern Washington Eagles (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/bigsky/teamsn.aspx?id=489)
1-1
2431
9


11.
Georgia Southern Eagles (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/southern/teamsn.aspx?id=503)
1-1
2201
3


12.
Towson Tigers (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/colonial/teamsn.aspx?id=644)
0-1
1987
13


13.
Delaware Blue Hens (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/colonial/teamsn.aspx?id=487)
2-0
1900
15


14.
Montana Grizzlies (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/bigsky/teamsn.aspx?id=548)
1-1
1756
12


15.
Illinois State Redbirds (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/gateway/teamsn.aspx?id=514)
2-0
1692
18


16.
Lehigh Mountain Hawks (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/patriot/teamsn.aspx?id=527)
2-0
1639
16


17.
Stony Brook Seawolves (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/bigsouth/teamsn.aspx?id=722)
2-0
1460
17


18.
New Hampshire Wildcats (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/colonial/teamsn.aspx?id=556)
1-1
1422
14


19.
McNeese State Cowboys (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/southland/teamsn.aspx?id=536)
2-0
962
22


20.
Eastern Kentucky Colonels (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/ovc/teamsn.aspx?id=494)
1-1
704
21


21.
The Citadel Bulldogs (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/southern/teamsn.aspx?id=477)
2-0
649
NR


22.
Indiana State Sycamores (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/gateway/teamsn.aspx?id=516)
1-1
567
23


23.
Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/southland/teamsn.aspx?id=611)
1-1
564
19


24.
Jacksonville State Gamecocks (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/ovc/teamsn.aspx?id=669)
1-1
509
24


25.
Maine Black Bears (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/colonial/teamsn.aspx?id=532)
0-1
472
20


Others receiving votes: Central Arkansas 462, Norfolk State 256, Bethune-Cookman 207, Harvard 159, Northern Arizona 158, Sacramento State 149, North Dakota 123, UT Martin 71, Tennessee Tech 64, Cal Poly 52, Albany 50, Samford 41, South Dakota State 36, Tennessee State 29, Richmond 24, Alabama State 23, Eastern Illinois 21, Penn 17, Southern Utah 16, South Carolina State 15, Western Illinois 11, Lafayette 9, Coastal Carolina 9, William & Mary 7, Southeast Missouri State 7, Georgetown 6, Liberty 6, Idaho State 4, Villanova 4, Alcorn State 3, Alabama A&M 2, Murray State 1, Monmouth 1, Drake 1, Cornell 1, Chattanooga 1....




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[crusader11]

Eastern Washington and Stony Brook need to be higher. Montana State is a few spots too high, and I think Delaware should be a bit lower. A total catastrophe that Albany comes in at #36.

Otherwise, this doesn't look like a total disaster like it usually does.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

SBU and Ill St are too low imo.

MSU way too high!

[bluehenbillk]

GSU way too high - I think I had them at 22 in my poll.

Stony Brook, McNeese & UCA all too low.

[Squealofthepig]

So, Wofford beats a D2 team by a bunch and overtakes EWU, who loses on the road at FBS Oregon State 24-20. Makes sense. (Not a knock on Wofford, just don't see how you could clearly see the Terriers as a superior team from that week's results).

[danefan]

Eastern Washington and Stony Brook need to be higher. Montana State is a few spots too high, and I think Delaware should be a bit lower. A total catastrophe that Albany comes in at #36.

Otherwise, this doesn't look like a total disaster like it usually does.

I think it would be hard to rank Albany over teams with FBS wins, but I wouldn't have trouble at all ranking UA over Harvard, Bethune Cookman, Norfolk State, North Dakota. Who the heck is voting for Tenn Tech?

[clickclack]

Albany got no respect for whooping up on a mediocre RMU team...not to upset about it...just win baby...or put forth a good effort this weekend.

[Squealofthepig]

SBU and Ill St are too low imo.

MSU way too high!

Agree; that win at Drake was ugly, and certainly other teams were more deserving of the three spots. What's most upsetting: They had a first place vote! I guess one voter considered (reigning national champ) NDSU's dominant win over FBS Colorado State less impressive than the Cats narrow win at FCS Drake.

[TTUEagles]

I think it would be hard to rank Albany over teams with FBS wins, but I wouldn't have trouble at all ranking UA over Harvard, Bethune Cookman, Norfolk State, North Dakota. Who the heck is voting for Tenn Tech?

I'm guessing it still has something to do with getting preseason 'respect' from being a playoff team in 2011. Plus, they handled a (now, pretty bad) Hampton team that was coming off of a 7-4 season (TTU lead that game, 31-7 at the half)...The D-II team they beat last week was a quarterfinal team in D-II last year, as well. Makes as much sense to put them high in the ORV list as anyone else, I guess...After next week (at OREGON), they'll fall back down. TTU is probably a 6-5, 5-6 team this year, IMO.

[Twentysix]

I'm guessing it still has something to do with getting preseason 'respect' from being a playoff team in 2011. Plus, they handled a (now, pretty bad) Hampton team that was coming off of a 7-4 season (TTU lead that game, 31-7 at the half)...The D-II team they beat last week was a quarterfinal team in D-II last year, as well. Makes as much sense to put them high in the ORV list as anyone else, I guess...After next week (at OREGON), they'll fall back down. TTU is probably a 6-5, 5-6 team this year, IMO.

Are you sure it isn't because Tennessee Tech beat Memphis? I mean as far as the voters are concerned thats what happened.

[danefan]

I'm guessing it still has something to do with getting preseason 'respect' from being a playoff team in 2011. Plus, they handled a (now, pretty bad) Hampton team that was coming off of a 7-4 season (TTU lead that game, 31-7 at the half)...The D-II team they beat last week was a quarterfinal team in D-II last year, as well. Makes as much sense to put them high in the ORV list as anyone else, I guess...After next week (at OREGON), they'll fall back down. TTU is probably a 6-5, 5-6 team this year, IMO.

The problem is no one puts them in the ORV. To get in ORV you have to be voted into the Top 25. I just don't see a case for Top 25 inclusion after beating Hampton and a DII team.

[DSUrocks07]

Are you sure it isn't because Tennessee Tech beat Memphis? I mean as far as the voters are concerned thats what happened.

Wrong Tennessee team

EDIT: I see what you did there...

[danefan]

Are you sure it isn't because Tennessee Tech beat Memphis? I mean as far as the voters are concerned thats what happened.


It could also be that the OVC has 16 voters.......

[TTUEagles]

Are you sure it isn't because Tennessee Tech beat Memphis? I mean as far as the voters are concerned thats what happened.

It would not surprise me in the least if that were actually true...
I might (stress might) make a case for #25 just for the fact that they are 2-0, having defeated another FCS team...I'm with you and anyone else who doesn't think they should be higher than that. I have them at #25 in my poll, simply because it's only week 2 and have a really hard time deciding upon teams 20-25 anyway...What the hell, homer vote? I won't do that in weeks 5-6 or beyond.

[danefan]

An interesting breakdown to put some of these rankings in perspective. Teams from conferences with more votes are going to have an easier time breaking in.

The Sports Network FCS Top 25 Voters

The Sports Network:
1. Aaron Corrill;
2. Craig Haley;
3. Tim McDonnell;
4. Phil Sokol;
5. Kevin Spiegel.

Big Sky Conference:
1. Brian Berger;
2. Brad Bugger;
3. Eric Burdick;
4. Dave Cook
5. Neil Gardner;
6. Matt Gerrish;
7. Paul Grua;
8. Jeremy Hoeck;
9. Mick Holien;
10. Jon Kasper;
11. Doug Kelly;
12. Heather Kennedy;
13. Bill Lamberty;
14. Mike Lund;
15. Scott Marsh;
16. Fritz Neighbor;
17. Ryan Powell;
18. Mike Robles;
19. Steve Schaack;
20. Randy Scovil;
21. Steve Shaff;
22. Mitch Strohman.

Big South:
1. Zeke Beam;
2. Wade Branner;
3. Mike Cawood;
4. Matthew Clark;
5. Adam Gutes;
6. Matt Hogue;
7. Chris Lang;
8. Marc Rabb;
9. Mark Simpson;
10. Eric Thacker;
11. Todd Wetmore;
12. Alan York.

CAA Football:
1. Ted Alexander;
2. Scott Burns;
3. Pete Clawson;
4. Dave Cohen;
5. Glenn Frazer;
6. Dean Kenefick;
7. Allen Lessels;
8. Andrew Mahoney;
9. John Martin;
10. Scott Meyer;
11. Mike Murphy;
12. Dan O'Connell;
13. Scott Selheimer;
14. Mike Stoss;
15. Kevin Tresolini;
16. Kimberly Zivkovich.

Ivy League:
1. Rick Bender;
2. Eric Dolan;
3. Jeremy Hartigan;
4. Chris Humm;
5. Craig Larson;
6. Dan Loney;
7. Craig Sachson;
8. Kurt Svoboda;
9. Ron Vaccaro.

Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference:
1. Thomas Grant;
2. Bill Hamilton;
3. Ed Hill Jr.;
4. Brian Holloway;
5. Chris Hooks;
6. Ronnie Johnson;
7. Dennis Jones;
8. Matt Michalec;
9. Patricia Porter;
10. Dan Ryan;
11. Michael Stambaugh;
12. Maurice Williams;
13. Brent Woronoff.

Missouri Valley Football Conference:
1. Bryan Boettcher,
2. John Bohnenkamp;
3. Scott Gierman;
4. Todd Golden;
5. Jeremy Hoeck;
6. Jason Hove;
7. Todd Hefferman;
8. Ace Hunt;
9. Mike Kern;
10. Rick Kindhart;
11. Jeff Kolpack;
12. Colin McDonough;
13. Patrick Osterman;
14. Trevor Parks;
15. Randy Reinhardt;
16. Jeff Schwartz;
17. Mike Williams;
18. Terry Vandrovec.

Northeast Conference:
1. Lizzie Barlow;
2. Matt Harmon;
3. Spencer Kowitz;
4. Andrew Santillo;
5. Chris Shovlin;
6. Jason Sullivan;
7. Jeff Symonds;
8. Ralph Ventre;
9. Greg Viscomi.

Ohio Valley Conference:
1. Neal Bradley;
2. John Brush;
3. Michael Clark;
4. Wallace Dooley;
5. Jeff Honza;
6. James Horne;
7. Brad Kirtley;
8. Travis Kriens;
9. Joe Lofaro;
10. Rich Moser:
11. Brian Nielsen:
12. Karl Park:
13. Mike Parris:
14. Rob Schabert:
15. Kyle Schwartz:
16. Greg Seitz.

Patriot League:
1. Charles Bare;
2. Bill Bowman;
3. Joe DiBari;
4. Matt Dougherty;
5. Keith Groller;
6. Phil LaBella;
7. Steve Lomangino;
8. Eric Malanowski;
9. Matt Markus.

Pioneer Football League:
1. Ty Patton,
2. Mark Brumbaugh;
3. Cody Bush;
4. Jack Cronin;
5. Mike Ferraro;
6. Ted Gosen;
7. Doug Hauschild;
8. James Nasella;
9. Paul Oren;
10. Matt Schabert;
11. Matt Segal;
12. Jason Williams;
13. Ryan Wronkowicz.

Southern Conference:
1. Jay Blackman;
2. Tommy Bowman;
3. Mike Flynn;
4. Barrett Gilham;
5. Don Heath;
6. Mike Hoffman;
7. David Jackson;
8. Joey Mullins;
9. Tyler Norris Goode
10. Chris Rash
11. Hunter Reid;
12. Todd Shanesy;
13. Adam Smith;
14. Brent Williamson.

Southland Conference:
1. Jason Barfield;
2. Louis Bonnette;
3. Matthew Bonnette;
4. Jamie Bustos;
5. Erik Cox;
6. James Dixon;
7. Kevin Gore;
8. Alex Hickey;
9. Doug Ireland;
10. Todd Lamb;
11. David McCollum;
12. Brent St. Germain;
13. Gene Shallenberg;
14. Matt Sullivan.

Southwestern Athletic Conference:
1. Antoine Bell;
2. Santoria Black;
3. Rodney Bush;
4. Natalie Hicks;
5. Chris Jones;
6. Duane Lewis;
7. Leonard Moon;
8. Edrin Nicholson;
9. Wesley Peterson;
10. Brandon Willis.

Other Representatives:
1. Rolf Bertulies;
2. Brian Brennan;
3. Josh Buchanan;
4. Jim Seman.

[FargoBison]

I have a lot of respect for Montana and GSU but both teams have FCS losses, it is ridiculous that ISU Red is behind them. The Redbirds physically dominated an FBS opponent on the road.

[eaglewraith]

So, Wofford beats a D2 team by a bunch and overtakes EWU, who loses on the road at FBS Oregon State 24-20. Makes sense. (Not a knock on Wofford, just don't see how you could clearly see the Terriers as a superior team from that week's results).

FBS Oregon State played Wisconsin this week.

[Redbird Ray]

This poll is a crock of ****. We're easily better than half of the teams ranked above us.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Who the heck is voting for Tenn Tech?

You mean Tennessee Tech, the defending OVC champs and a team that sees a whole lot return from last year?

I'm actually stupefied that EKU is so far above them, considering they very nearly were upset by Morehead State. And Jacksonville State's win over Chatty wasn't exactly a thing of beauty, either. As for UT Martin, who is only above them because of the Memphis win, it remains to be seen if they're in the same ballpark as EKU/JSU/TTU. Memphis is an awful FBS team.

[danefan]

You mean Tennessee Tech, the defending OVC champs and a team that sees a whole lot return from last year?

I'm actually stupefied that EKU is so far above them, considering they very nearly were upset by Morehead State. And Jacksonville State's win over Chatty wasn't exactly a thing of beauty, either.

Valid points on TTU.

[BEAR]

So my UCA Bears hang with Ole Miss for 3 quarters and handily defeat an FCS Murray State with a QB most FCS teams would love to have, and we don't crack the top 25 in this poll? Interesting. I'll take the AGS poll over this one for sure.

[JMUNJ08]

So we get a first place vote for how well we decorated our cupcakes at home?

And why did Alcorn State get 4 votes? Werent they just beat 42-3?

[HensRock]

This poll is a crock of ****. We're easily better than half of the teams ranked above us.

I ranked ISUr 4th in my ballot.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Eastern Washington and Stony Brook need to be higher. Montana State is a few spots too high, and I think Delaware should be a bit lower. A total catastrophe that Albany comes in at #36.

Otherwise, this doesn't look like a total disaster like it usually does.

Agreed on all accounts.

[ndsubison]

This poll is a crock of ****. We're easily better than half of the teams ranked above us.

I agree that ISUr should be ranked higher. I also believe that if you keep playing the way you do that you'll be changing more peoples' minds along the way, furthering your cause. I will be disappointed if you aren't one of the Valley teams selected for playoffs so you can prove your point. But remember you have to make sure you're one of the Valley teams left standing after conference play to get that spot. Same with NDSU. xcoffeex

[Twentysix]

I ranked ISUr 4th in my ballot.

3rd in mine.

[MTfan4life]

You mean Tennessee Tech, the defending OVC champs and a team that sees a whole lot return from last year?

I'm actually stupefied that EKU is so far above them, considering they very nearly were upset by Morehead State. And Jacksonville State's win over Chatty wasn't exactly a thing of beauty, either. As for UT Martin, who is only above them because of the Memphis win, it remains to be seen if they're in the same ballpark as EKU/JSU/TTU. Memphis is an awful FBS team.

You do remember that TTU tied for the OVC championship with JSU and EKU, right? They were only the tiebreaker winner. They still had two conference losses last season, so it wasn't as if they were the clear best team in the OVC in 2011.