Georgia Southern Building For The Future

[superman7515]

http://savannahnow.com/sports/2012-04-11/building-future


STATESBORO — Georgia Southern continues to gain ground in the effort to break ground for a $10 million Football Operations Center at Paulson Stadium.

Is this the first step toward the Eagles move to the Football Bowl Subdivision level?

“Let’s put it this way,” GSU president Dr. Brooks Keel said. “Moving up requires stadium enhancement. We can’t even make a decision of whether we want to move up until we have the resources and facilities to handle everything else that goes with it.”

So the big picture at Georgia Southern really will focus on a series of progressions. A year ago, the school announced a plan to build a multi-purpose facility at Paulson taking care of virtually every football need. Keel said $5.1 million in cash pledges have been raised with another $5.9 million in outstanding proposals....

[kdinva]

So, I presume this new building in the East end zone, will compliment the Bishop Field house, already standing (since 2007) in the west end zone......

http://www.georgiasoutherneagles.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=18700&KEY=&ATCLID=1247781&SPID=10884&SPSID=95559

The {Bishop} Field House measures 13,600 total square feet and includes: new locker rooms, meeting and hospitality space. The home locker room can accommodate 90 players while the visitor locker room has room for 75 players.


So, once completed, GSU uses which field house, and the opponents the "opposite" field house?

[GATA_Eagles]

Here's some views of the fieldhouse...as well as an extra rendering of expected future upgrades:

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt35/gsuwinsudont/265368_195184640539605_100001442123552_578555_3005 701_o.jpg
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt35/gsuwinsudont/278820_195184040539665_100001442123552_578553_3982 551_o.jpg
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt35/gsuwinsudont/271851_195182767206459_100001442123552_578552_1047 644_o.jpg

Floor plans:
Main: http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/3906/mainib.jpg
Lower: http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2228/lowerv.jpg

Future stadium renderings with new fieldhouse, bowled out bishop seating, and extra student deck:
http://www.gata.com/gataimages/cozystadium.jpg

[The Eagle's Cliff]

So, once completed, GSU uses which field house, and the opponents the "opposite" field house?

Visitors will use the same locker room in Bishop. The "new building" will house all football operations including offices, meeting, training, weight, and locker rooms. The top floor entrance will feature a Hall of Fame and the plaza from Lanier Drive will have a larger-than-life statue of Erk Russell in his GATA T-Shirt. Should be ready well ahead of the 2014 season.

[cbarrier90]

Future stadium renderings with new fieldhouse, bowled out bishop seating, and extra student deck:
http://www.gata.com/gataimages/cozystadium.jpg

Well, it's about time this happened. That looks awesome. xsmileyclapx

[kdinva]

Visitors will use the same locker room in Bishop. The "new building" will house all football operations including offices, meeting, training, weight, and locker rooms. The top floor entrance will feature a Hall of Fame and the plaza from Lanier Drive will have a larger-than-life statue of Erk Russell in his GATA T-Shirt. Should be ready well ahead of the 2014 season.

Thanks, I was just curious as to why the newspaper article said the FB team still dressed in Hanner fieldhouse, when Bishop has been up and running for 5 years..

[WH49er]

That looks amazing, congrats!

[CropDuster]

Thanks, I was just curious as to why the newspaper article said the FB team still dressed in Hanner fieldhouse, when Bishop has been up and running for 5 years..
The team dresses there and rides school buses over to the stadium.

[Apphole]

Looks great. I really hope we remain conference mates after both our schools' FBS transitions.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

If the initial plan is $10 million, that means the final plans will be about $4 million. Better than nothing, though.

[GATA_Eagles]

Looks great. I really hope we remain conference mates after both our schools' FBS transitions.
If we can't remain conference mates, I at least hope for a home and home every year. We have too great of a rivalry to throw out the window. This year was my first trip to Boone, and I must say I loved the environment. I'll definitely be making a trip back up there in the future.

[eaglewraith]

If the initial plan is $10 million, that means the final plans will be about $4 million. Better than nothing, though.

New guy at the reins. Don't expect what you've seen in the past.

[asumike83]

If we can't remain conference mates, I at least hope for a home and home every year. We have too great of a rivalry to throw out the window. This year was my first trip to Boone, and I must say I loved the environment. I'll definitely be making a trip back up there in the future.

Absolutely. Not having an App/GSU game every year would be a damn shame. I will be making my maiden voyage to Paulson Stadium this year!

[Apphole]

Absolutely. Not having an App/GSU game every year would be a damn shame. I will be making my maiden voyage to Paulson Stadium this year!

I agree and I also hope to make my first trip to Paulson this year. I'll bring the Febreeze you bring the bug spray xsmiley_wix

[asumike83]

I agree and I also hope to make my first trip to Paulson this year. I'll bring the Febreeze you bring the bug spray xsmiley_wix

Deal. xlolx

Don't forget your toothbrush either. Just to save a post for a GSU fan, I've only got a couple so I really need to take care of them!

[seantaylor]

Sammy Baker still around so this thing will probably get scaled back. Monken is the train driving this engine.

[blueballs]

You two App boys don't need to worry about febreeze or toothbrushes. Bring moonshine. I know you have it. I know your relatives make it and have for generations. We want some. Great App State brought some a few years ago and it was great!

[eaglewraith]

Sammy Baker still around so this thing will probably get scaled back. Monken is the train driving this engine.

Keel is the engine behind all this. Nothing will be scaled back.

[Apphole]

You two App boys don't need to worry about febreeze or toothbrushes. Bring moonshine. I know you have it. I know your relatives make it and have for generations. We want some. Great App State brought some a few years ago and it was great!
I'll try to get a couple of jars of uncle Popcorn's finest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPuWX7d7yEw

[realgsu]

That's the tallest building in Statesboro isn't it.

[GSU EAGLES]

That's the tallest building in Statesboro isn't it.

Might be the tallest in Athens too.

Ga State does have us beat on the taller buildings. You also can go deeper too with you beautiful campus attraction "Underground Atlanta" It is a shopping and entertainment mecca 6ft undergound the city. Be careful, watch your back or you may end up 6 ft under permanently though.

[GSU_Alum08]

Might be the tallest in Athens too.

Ga State does have us beat on the taller buildings. You also can go deeper too with you beautiful campus attraction "Underground Atlanta" It is a shopping and entertainment mecca 6ft undergound the city. Be careful, watch your back or you may end up 6 ft under permanently though.


Don't forget though, we actually have, "trees", and "nature".... which is something unheard of to Ga State students.

[Tuscon]

Might be the tallest in Athens too.

Ga State does have us beat on the taller buildings. You also can go deeper too with you beautiful campus attraction "Underground Atlanta" It is a shopping and entertainment mecca 6ft undergound the city. Be careful, watch your back or you may end up 6 ft under permanently though.

Dear god, the city needs to let us have Underground. Georgia State would use that piece of crap so much better than the 10 shoe stores that are there now.


Don't forget though, we actually have, "trees", and "nature".... which is something unheard of to Ga State students.

One of the reasons I love Atlanta is because of how close it is to exactly that. There is lots of hiking and rivers and forests within an hours drive. A couple more hours and you have mountains, and 4 hours east and you're at the beach. It's kind of the best of both worlds. Not to mention all the green space due to the sprawling nature of the city.

[GSU EAGLES]

One of the reasons I love Atlanta is because of how close it is to exactly that. There is lots of hiking and rivers and forests within an hours drive. A couple more hours and you have mountains, and 4 hours east and you're at the beach. It's kind of the best of both worlds. Not to mention all the green space due to the sprawling nature of the city.

Let's see. An hours drive in Atlanta will net you about 3 miles. A couple more hours will get you to spaghetti junction. You referring to Peachtree Battle creek that runs under the city?

[Tuscon]

Let's see. An hours drive in Atlanta will net you about 3 miles. A couple more hours will get you to spaghetti junction. You referring to Peachtree Battle creek that runs under the city?

Pffffffff. You're doing it wrong. Don't you know we speed up in the city?

[GSU EAGLES]

Pffffffff. You're doing it wrong. Don't you know we speed up in the city?

Maybe before 6AM and after 7 PM. Even traffic on the weekends can be bad with all of the construction.

[asumike83]

You two App boys don't need to worry about febreeze or toothbrushes. Bring moonshine. I know you have it. I know your relatives make it and have for generations. We want some. Great App State brought some a few years ago and it was great!

I'll see if I can make that happen, game day is going to be a party no matter who wins!

[blueballs]

Might be the tallest in Athens too.

Ga State does have us beat on the taller buildings. You also can go deeper too with you beautiful campus attraction "Underground Atlanta" It is a shopping and entertainment mecca 6ft undergound the city. Be careful, watch your back or you may end up 6 ft under permanently though.

Georgia State has GSU beat on other things too... like bums who smell like week old piss, muggings, murders, rapes, and car jackings.

The only thing the REAL GSU has going for it in this case is actual success.... you know? The most titles, all time playoff wins, all time leading rusher, all time leading scorer.... all the stuff that is ON the field.

Somebody remind me of what Ga State's traditions are again and what they won.....

[GATA_Eagles]

I agree and I also hope to make my first trip to Paulson this year. I'll bring the Febreeze you bring the bug spray xsmiley_wix

Febreeze?!? Do you want to attract the gnats? :P

[Mountaineer#96]

Georgia State has GSU beat on other things too... like bums who smell like week old piss, muggings, murders, rapes, and car jackings.

The only thing the REAL GSU has going for it in this case is actual success.... you know? The most titles, all time playoff wins, all time leading rusher, all time leading scorer.... all the stuff that is ON the field.

Somebody remind me of what Ga State's traditions are again and what they won.....

You might die before you get any type of answer on that.....

[Mountaineer#96]

I'll try to get a couple of jars of uncle Popcorn's finest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPuWX7d7yEw

Popcorn died a few years back, may he RIP. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Sutton

Although Hank Williams Jr. and his widow are selling his Whiskey in Tenn and now some markets (not ATL) in GA. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/21/us/popcorn-suttons-whiskey-once-moonshine-is-now-legal.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

http://www.popcornsuttonswhiskey.com/

[Apphole]

Popcorn died a few years back, may he RIP. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Sutton

Although Hank Williams Jr. and his widow are selling his Whiskey in Tenn and now some markets (not ATL) in GA. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/21/us/popcorn-suttons-whiskey-once-moonshine-is-now-legal.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

http://www.popcornsuttonswhiskey.com/

Yes I knew he passed away a few years ago. Kinda of sad. He went out like a bad *** of course though.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va07akbHIOA

"I'm the only man round here with a 2 inch dick and a 6 inch tongue and knows how to use both of em"

[realgsu]

Georgia State has GSU beat on other things too... like bums who smell like week old piss, muggings, murders, rapes, and car jackings.

The only thing the REAL GSU has going for it in this case is actual success.... you know? The most titles, all time playoff wins, all time leading rusher, all time leading scorer.... all the stuff that is ON the field.

Somebody remind me of what Ga State's traditions are again and what they won.....

And you cant even get an invite to the Sun Belt. .Ouch. You must feel like a dude that just slid down a hill of razor blades into an alcohol river....

[FormerPokeCenter]

And you cant even get an invite to the Sun Belt. .Ouch. You must feel like a dude that just slid down a hill of razor blades into an alcohol river....

There's a reason that in the 17 games that the Sunbelt has played against FCS teams in the last five years, they haven't schedule Georgia Southern or App State. I suspect it's the same reason why neither of those teams have been formally asked to join the Sunbelt.

Quite frankly, the Sunbelt doesn't wanna get the **** beaten out of it like the last two times they've scheduled decent teams from the Southland, which isn't a league that's on par with the SoCon or CAA year in and year out...

You can talk all the **** you want about sliding into a river of alcohol, but that beats the hell out of the sewer of a conference you just voluntarily joined. I'm sure the CAA probably feels like they just heard a giant flushing sound, Now all that remains is for them to wipe themselves and watch you swirl around the CAA bowl, bouncing off the sides next season before finding your rightful home with the other turds in your new conference...

Does it NOT occur to you that if the Sunbelt had ANY other viable options for an established, successful program, they wouldn't be courting you? ;)

Wait, nevermind. I withdraw the question. You'd have to have some introspective abilities to answer that and, since I've read your posts here, I know that you're not the slightest bit introspective....

Carry on ;)

[Ivytalk]

Georgia State has GSU beat on other things too... like bums who smell like week old piss, muggings, murders, rapes, and car jackings.

The only thing the REAL GSU has going for it in this case is actual success.... you know? The most titles, all time playoff wins, all time leading rusher, all time leading scorer.... all the stuff that is ON the field.

Somebody remind me of what Ga State's traditions are again and what they won.....

POTY candidate!xnodxxbowxxthumbsupx

[realgsu]

There's a reason that in the 17 games that the Sunbelt has played against FCS teams in the last five years, they haven't schedule Georgia Southern or App State. I suspect it's the same reason why neither of those teams have been formally asked to join the Sunbelt.

Quite frankly, the Sunbelt doesn't wanna get the **** beaten out of it like the last two times they've scheduled decent teams from the Southland, which isn't a league that's on par with the SoCon or CAA year in and year out...

You can talk all the **** you want about sliding into a river of alcohol, but that beats the hell out of the sewer of a conference you just voluntarily joined. I'm sure the CAA probably feels like they just heard a giant flushing sound, Now all that remains is for them to wipe themselves and watch you swirl around the CAA bowl, bouncing off the sides next season before finding your rightful home with the other turds in your new conference...

Does it NOT occur to you that if the Sunbelt had ANY other viable options for an established, successful program, they wouldn't be courting you? ;)

Wait, nevermind. I withdraw the question. You'd have to have some introspective abilities to answer that and, since I've read your posts here, I know that you're not the slightest bit introspective....

Carry on ;)

And obviously McNugget St. isn't one of those programs.

[realgsu]

POTY candidate!xnodxxbowxxthumbsupx

He was wearing my Harvard tie like oh sure, he went to Harvard.

[FormerPokeCenter]

And obviously McNugget St. isn't one of those programs.


McNeese is 3-0 against the Sunbelt....We've victimized USL, ULM and FIU...

I await your next idiotic statement with bated breath...

[SpeedkingATL]

Here's some views of the fieldhouse...as well as an extra rendering of expected future upgrades:

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt35/gsuwinsudont/265368_195184640539605_100001442123552_578555_3005 701_o.jpg
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt35/gsuwinsudont/278820_195184040539665_100001442123552_578553_3982 551_o.jpg
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt35/gsuwinsudont/271851_195182767206459_100001442123552_578552_1047 644_o.jpg

Floor plans:
Main: http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/3906/mainib.jpg
Lower: http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2228/lowerv.jpg

Future stadium renderings with new fieldhouse, bowled out bishop seating, and extra student deck:
http://www.gata.com/gataimages/cozystadium.jpg

Back to our scheduled program. Stadium upgrades much needed and very impressive.

[I-16Bandit]

Back to our scheduled program. Stadium upgrades much needed and very impressive.

So far, just on paper... :(

[PaladinFan]

So far, just on paper... :(

Wait, you mean this wasn't paid for by private anonymous donations? :)

[The Eagle's Cliff]

Wait, you mean this wasn't paid for by private anonymous donations? :)

We have very few Alumni named Muffy, Buffy, Biff, Skip, and Geoff,..xlolx.....but ohh how I wishxshhhx

[ChooChoo]

Georgia State has GSU beat on other things too... like bums who smell like week old piss, muggings, murders, rapes, and car jackings.

The only thing the REAL GSU has going for it in this case is actual success.... you know? The most titles, all time playoff wins, all time leading rusher, all time leading scorer.... all the stuff that is ON the field.

Somebody remind me of what Ga State's traditions are again and what they won.....

No, I think you guys are handling the rape market just fine. Matter of fact one happened in my niece's apartment to her room mate after one of your football games last season and all your pathetic cops offered to do was call the little scumbag in to scare him. Don't start that crap here. I'm very familiar with Statesboro and I've seen the thugs that live in the "student housing" that double as dorms there. Don't tell me you don't have crime there, you have all the douchbaggery you can handle in your little college town. You know it and I know it.
I'd take my chances walking downtown Atlanta anynight before I'd walk along VM Parkway.

[I-16Bandit]

No, I think you guys are handling the rape market just fine. Matter of fact one happened in my niece's apartment to her room mate after one of your football games last season and all your pathetic cops offered to do was call the little scumbag in to scare him. Don't start that crap here. I'm very familiar with Statesboro and I've seen the thugs that live in the "student housing" that double as dorms there. Don't tell me you don't have crime there, you have all the douchbaggery you can handle in your little college town. You know it and I know it.
I'd take my chances walking downtown Atlanta anynight before I'd walk along VM Parkway.

Yes, we have crime (what part of civilization doesn't?), but geezus you would be stupid to take a stroll downtown ATL at night over Veterans Memorial.

[Tuscon]

Yes, we have crime (what part of civilization doesn't?), but geezus you would be stupid to take a stroll downtown ATL at night over Veterans Memorial.

The crime thing is a bit overstated here on a regular basis. Atlanta is an urban center with a massive population. Of course crime happens more frequently here. That being said, I would gladly walk alone around in Midtown, Grant Park, Inman Park and a couple of other neighborhoods at any time of day or night and not feel the least bit nervous.

[eaglesrback]

The crime thing is a bit overstated here on a regular basis. Atlanta is an urban center with a massive population. Of course crime happens more frequently here. That being said, I would gladly walk alone around in Midtown, Grant Park, Inman Park and a couple of other neighborhoods at any time of day or night and not feel the least bit nervous.

Why dont you stroll over to North Ave.

[blueballs]

No, I think you guys are handling the rape market just fine. Matter of fact one happened in my niece's apartment to her room mate after one of your football games last season and all your pathetic cops offered to do was call the little scumbag in to scare him. Don't start that crap here. I'm very familiar with Statesboro and I've seen the thugs that live in the "student housing" that double as dorms there. Don't tell me you don't have crime there, you have all the douchbaggery you can handle in your little college town. You know it and I know it.
I'd take my chances walking downtown Atlanta anynight before I'd walk along VM Parkway.

My BS meter just pegged... Why hasn't she gone to the media, called her congressman, called the DA, called the sheriff, called Statesboro PD, or taken any other step other than telling a campus cop who wants to scare somebody over the phone? If she truly was raped then more should have (and probably would have) been done, like going to the hosiptal and having a rape kit done.

One other thing... if I knew somebody had raped my niece and I knew who it was the cops would have to arrest me to protect the rapist because they would be in mortal danger right f-ing now, and that's assumiong I wasn't able to beat my brother and nephew there... so perhaps you should turn off the computer and go protect your niece from the so-called thugs.

[Jackson]

My BS meter just pegged... Why hasn't she gone to the media, called her congressman, called the DA, called the sheriff, called Statesboro PD, or taken any other step other than telling a campus cop who wants to scare somebody over the phone? If she truly was raped then more should have (and probably would have) been done, like going to the hosiptal and having a rape kit done.

One other thing... if I knew somebody had raped my niece and I knew who it was the cops would have to arrest me to protect the rapist because they would be in mortal danger right f-ing now, and that's assumiong I wasn't able to beat my brother and nephew there... so perhaps you should turn off the computer and go protect your niece from the so-called thugs.

Re-read what he wrote.

[Tuscon]

Why dont you stroll over to North Ave.

Lived over there too. It depends on where you are(I wasn't in the greatest part). My point was saying there is crime in a city is dumb. There are safe places and unsafe places in every city.

[SouthernMan]

No, I think you guys are handling the rape market just fine. Matter of fact one happened in my niece's apartment to her room mate after one of your football games last season and all your pathetic cops offered to do was call the little scumbag in to scare him. Don't start that crap here. I'm very familiar with Statesboro and I've seen the thugs that live in the "student housing" that double as dorms there. Don't tell me you don't have crime there, you have all the douchbaggery you can handle in your little college town. You know it and I know it.
I'd take my chances walking downtown Atlanta anynight before I'd walk along VM Parkway.

Which was it, a privately owned apartment complex or a dorm / "student housing"? Give us a location. What date was it, which game? I have some good friends that work for campus police and the Statesboro PD. I will be happy to give them a call for you on behalf of the victim. I think a rapist is one of the lowest of the low, so just send some basic info and I will see if I can pass it along.

Statesboro does have its share of crime, as does any town that has such an influx of 20,000+ 18-24 year olds that do not hold permanent residence. You think Panama City has a higher crime rate during Spring Break or during the fall?

[unknown3]

Statesboro will never have as much crime because people with sense actually LEAVE there instead of going there after high school graduation.xlolx

[I-16Bandit]

Why dont you stroll over to North Ave.

My brother is going to be living in the North Ave apartments next year at Tech.

[ChooChoo]

First, sorry I went down that road but I detest rape. I know it happens on every campus but it doesn't excuse it. I know it happens everywhere from Athens to Valdosta. I just didn't like the fact that Atlanta/Georgia State was somehow worse than Statesboro when we know bad things happen there too. As for the incedent I mentioned, yes it did happen at the Pointe. It was date rape (the guy stayed over then forced himself on her) and my niece did take her to the police. She wouldn't press charges because she was ashamed and she didn't feel like it would do much good. When she told me about it I was livid. I've only met the girl twice but it was still painful and I wanted to go exact some Buford Pusser justice asap on the little punk. Maybe the incedent makes me unfairly angry at the school for the actions of this scumbag, I can admit that and that under the circumstances the cops hand's were tied. Let's just lay-off the holier than thou BS when it comes to college campuses. Very bad things can and do happen at all of them when you fuel drugs and alcohol with young people.
I'll hop off this soapbox.

[Tuscon]

My brother is going to be living in the North Ave apartments next year at Tech.

You mean the ones Georgia State used to own? That's not a bad spot. A little cramped. Atlanta is odd. You can be on one street and see houses for $200k to $300k, and a block down on the same street have section 8 housing.

[Blue Eagle]

Looks great. I really hope we remain conference mates after both our schools' FBS transitions.

Thanks

Absolutely - hopefully we will

[Mountaineer#96]

In my neck of the woods, anything located near sect. 8 has so dropped in value you can't give the property away. People just will not flat out live by that, it never ceases to amaze how "city admins" come up with wonderful plans to prop "certain people" up by placing sect 8 and any other public housing into nice nieghborhoods and then wonder why that all the people who have lived in that nieghborhood throw up FOR SALE signs overnight to move away. I lived in Charlotte a number of years ago and I have seen the thing we call "white flight" happen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_flight

Back on topic, GA Southern will be in the SBC with App State by 2014. They will travel well and fill the GA Dome with more fans than the team leasing it out, sorry Panthers.

[klak]

First, sorry I went down that road but I detest rape. I know it happens on every campus but it doesn't excuse it. I know it happens everywhere from Athens to Valdosta. I just didn't like the fact that Atlanta/Georgia State was somehow worse than Statesboro when we know bad things happen there too. As for the incedent I mentioned, yes it did happen at the Pointe. It was date rape (the guy stayed over then forced himself on her) and my niece did take her to the police. She wouldn't press charges because she was ashamed and she didn't feel like it would do much good. When she told me about it I was livid. I've only met the girl twice but it was still painful and I wanted to go exact some Buford Pusser justice asap on the little punk. Maybe the incedent makes me unfairly angry at the school for the actions of this scumbag, I can admit that and that under the circumstances the cops hand's were tied. Let's just lay-off the holier than thou BS when it comes to college campuses. Very bad things can and do happen at all of them when you fuel drugs and alcohol with young people.
I'll hop off this soapbox.

I think everyone on this board, regardless of school affiliation or FBS/FCS aspirations, would agree with this post.

[Tuscon]

In my neck of the woods, anything located near sect. 8 has so dropped in value you can't give the property away. People just will not flat out live by that, it never ceases to amaze how "city admins" come up with wonderful plans to prop "certain people" up by placing sect 8 and any other public housing into nice nieghborhoods and then wonder why that all the people who have lived in that nieghborhood throw up FOR SALE signs overnight to move away. I lived in Charlotte a number of years ago and I have seen the thing we call "white flight" happen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_flight

Back on topic, GA Southern will be in the SBC with App State by 2014. They will travel well and fill the GA Dome with more fans than the team leasing it out, sorry Panthers.

People in Atlanta seem to be just fine by it. It happens all over Atlanta. I've always heard it commented how weirdly patchwork it is in that regard.

App State may be headed our way, but I'm not too sure Georgia Southern is. And definitely not by 2014. They need more monies, not just six flags.

[I-16Bandit]

In my neck of the woods, anything located near sect. 8 has so dropped in value you can't give the property away. People just will not flat out live by that, it never ceases to amaze how "city admins" come up with wonderful plans to prop "certain people" up by placing sect 8 and any other public housing into nice nieghborhoods and then wonder why that all the people who have lived in that nieghborhood throw up FOR SALE signs overnight to move away. I lived in Charlotte a number of years ago and I have seen the thing we call "white flight" happen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_flight

Back on topic, GA Southern will be in the SBC with App State by 2014. They will travel well and fill the GA Dome with more fans than the team leasing it out, sorry Panthers.

Whatever happens in the future, I sure as hell hope that App State and Georgia Southern continue playing each other on a regular basis, no matter the conference. Can't loose such a good rivalry... Even if you guys are hillbilly asshats. :D

[asumike83]

People in Atlanta seem to be just fine by it. It happens all over Atlanta. I've always heard it commented how weirdly patchwork it is in that regard.

App State may be headed our way, but I'm not too sure Georgia Southern is. And definitely not by 2014. They need more monies, not just six flags.

Charlotte is fairly similar in the downtown area. You can go from swanky to scary in a matter of footsteps, although that seems to be common of most larger cities.

I'd say 2014 is the absolute earliest that App is FBS. The conferences want to get ahold of the big markets and after they do that, we may see some moves to pick up small market schools with strong football for stability. It looks like we may have to wait out this first wave of realignment and hop on the next boat, which is fine by me because I am very excited about the 2012-2013 schedules.

[asumike83]

Whatever happens in the future, I sure as hell hope that App State and Georgia Southern continue playing each other on a regular basis, no matter the conference. Can't loose such a good rivalry... Even if you guys are hillbilly asshats. :D

I completely agree. The rivalry is definitely too good to die, even if it means we have to interact with some gnat-infested rednecks on a regular basis. xlolx

[Apphole]

Can't loose such a good rivalry... Even if you guys are hillbilly asshats. :D
We just love to hate the Stink: our only true remaining SoCon rival. The Furple rivalry has lost a lot of luster over the past 5 years and Western....well Western is Western. That rivalry is one-way xlolx

[PaladinFan]

We just love to hate the Stink: our only true remaining SoCon rival. The Furple rivalry has lost a lot of luster over the past 5 years and Western....well Western is Western. That rivalry is one-way xlolx

Despite the recent success,* App still has a losing record against Furman all time, and a losing record against Furman in Boone (and, of course, a losing record against Furman in Greenville).

*that's not even counting the shutdown game Furman won this fall.

[I-16Bandit]

Despite the recent success,* App still has a losing record against Furman all time, and a losing record against Furman in Boone (and, of course, a losing record against Furman in Greenville).

*that's not even counting the shutdown game Furman won this fall.

http://www.trainfortopdollar.com/trainfortopdollar/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/canofworms1.jpg

:D

[Apphole]

Despite the recent success,* App still has a losing record against Furman all time, and a losing record against Furman in Boone (and, of course, a losing record against Furman in Greenville).

*that's not even counting the shutdown game Furman won this fall.

True. Alas, Furp is the only team we play consistently against we whom we have a losing record. Never the less, it's still not a big rivalry in the new generation's mind.

[cbarrier90]

Despite the recent success,* App still has a losing record against Furman all time, and a losing record against Furman in Boone (and, of course, a losing record against Furman in Greenville).

*that's not even counting the shutdown game Furman won this fall.

True, and that should make you feel better, but that was Furman's first win in the series since the regular season meeting in 2005.

In that time, Georgia Southern became the thorn in App's side during the run of SoCon championships.

[PaladinFan]

True, and that should make you feel better, but that was Furman's first win in the series since the regular season meeting in 2005.

In that time, Georgia Southern became the thorn in App's side during the run of SoCon championships.

I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying its a matter of perspective. For the bandwagon fans that jumped on board in 2005, I'm sure none of them particularly care about Furman. They don't know many of the exceedingly tight games those two teams played through much of the 2000s often with the final result left in the balance until the closing seconds. Many probably don't even realize Furman has appeared in the national title game as many times as App State has. They probably don't know that Furman has more SoCon championships than App State, all which came after ASU joined the conference. In their minds, App State has been king forever, and Georgia Southern is the only challenger.

I'm not saying I can't understand the sentiment, but when I hear that, it tells me that person didn't come on the App train until late in the 2000s. They don't realize that the App/Furman rivalry has been arguably the most tightly contested series in FCS football.

I'll get off the soapbox now.

[Apphole]

I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying its a matter of perspective. For the bandwagon fans that jumped on board in 2005, I'm sure none of them particularly care about Furman. They don't know many of the exceedingly tight games those two teams played through much of the 2000s often with the final result left in the balance until the closing seconds. Many probably don't even realize Furman has appeared in the national title game as many times as App State has. They probably don't know that Furman has more SoCon championships than App State, all which came after ASU joined the conference. In their minds, App State has been king forever, and Georgia Southern is the only challenger.

I'm not saying I can't understand the sentiment, but when I hear that, it tells me that person didn't come on the App train until late in the 2000s. They don't realize that the App/Furman rivalry has been arguably the most tightly contested series in FCS football.

I'll get off the soapbox now.

SMH I knew I'd be reading the term "bandwagon" in the near future. Let's get this straight. Just because someone became an App fan from 2005-2007, doesn't make them a bandwagon. It's been years since a NC and we still lead the nation in attendance. I became an App fan when I was a freshman at App State. Does that make me a bandwagon? Were you born a Furple fan?

[asumike83]

I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying its a matter of perspective. For the bandwagon fans that jumped on board in 2005, I'm sure none of them particularly care about Furman. They don't know many of the exceedingly tight games those two teams played through much of the 2000s often with the final result left in the balance until the closing seconds. Many probably don't even realize Furman has appeared in the national title game as many times as App State has. They probably don't know that Furman has more SoCon championships than App State, all which came after ASU joined the conference. In their minds, App State has been king forever, and Georgia Southern is the only challenger.

I'm not saying I can't understand the sentiment, but when I hear that, it tells me that person didn't come on the App train until late in the 2000s. They don't realize that the App/Furman rivalry has been arguably the most tightly contested series in FCS football.

I'll get off the soapbox now.

I know you like to commonly refer to many of the App folks as "bandwagon fans", which I really don't get. 2012 will mark the 8th football season since the first National Title and our attendance has never been higher than last year, our worst of the bunch. I started at App in the early 2000's. We went 4-1 against Furman while I was there and did not lose to them again until this year. I understand and respect the rivalry but it is nowhere near as big to me as GA Southern. I have supported my school since I stepped on campus and am certainly no bandwagon fan. What about the younger App fans (of which there are a lot on this board) who did not start at App until 2005 or after? Are they also bandwagon fans because they aren't old enough not to be? Of course winning will increase fan interest but when those fans are still not only on board but increasing in numbers 5 years after the last title, I don't think they can be considered fairweather or bandwagon fans.

What about the Furman fans who got into the program when they were dominating the SoCon? Are they just "bandwagon fans" left over from the 80's?

[PaladinFan]

I know you like to commonly refer to many of the App folks as "bandwagon fans", which I really don't get. 2012 will mark the 8th football season since the first National Title and our attendance has never been higher than last year, our worst of the bunch. I started at App in the early 2000's. We went 4-1 against Furman while I was there and did not lose to them again until this year. I understand and respect the rivalry but it is nowhere near as big to me as GA Southern. I have supported my school since I stepped on campus and am certainly no bandwagon fan. What about the younger App fans (of which there are a lot on this board) who did not start at App until 2005 or after? Are they also bandwagon fans because they aren't old enough not to be? Of course winning will increase fan interest but when those fans are still not only on board but increasing in numbers 5 years after the last title, I don't think they can be considered fairweather or bandwagon fans.

What about the Furman fans who got into the program when they were dominating the SoCon? Are they just "bandwagon fans" left over from the 80's?

You've seen our fan base. Half of them were fans when the Paladins joined the conference in '36 :)

The point I am trying to make is that the newer fan base has no exposure to, nor probably cares, about the fantastic series between these two schools. Those who see Furman as a rival of days bygone either (1) graduated in the last handful of years, or (2) jumped on the wagon somewhere in between now and 2005.

I'm not pushing for Furman in the "greatest rival" beauty contest, but only to say that it is not something that should be put to second class status just yet.

[Apphole]

I'm not pushing for Furman in the "greatest rival" beauty contest, but only to say that it is not something that should be put to second class status just yet.

The original statement that sent you on this campaign to redeem Furple as ASU's rival, was me saying this



The Furple rivalry has lost a lot of luster over the past 5 years

Is this not truthful?

[asumike83]

You've seen our fan base. Half of them were fans when the Paladins joined the conference in '36 :)

The point I am trying to make is that the newer fan base has no exposure to, nor probably cares, about the fantastic series between these two schools. Those who see Furman as a rival of days bygone either (1) graduated in the last handful of years, or (2) jumped on the wagon somewhere in between now and 2005.

I'm not pushing for Furman in the "greatest rival" beauty contest, but only to say that it is not something that should be put to second class status just yet.

Yes, the Furman fan base is... mature.

You are correct in that many of the younger/newer fans fully appreciate the history of the FU/ASU rivalry because it has taken a back seat to Georgia Southern in recent years. I've always enjoyed the Furman games. Miracle on the Mountain was my freshman year, so that kick started it for me and then my Senior year was the National Semifinal match-up. I understand where you're coming from and my point was that just because an App fan does not consider Furman a top rival does not classify them as bandwagon. ASU has really gotten the better of it the last decade or so, while GSU has been a thorn in the side of even our great teams.

[SouthernMan]

people with sense actually LEAVE there instead of going there after high school graduation.xlolx

Guess thats why the latest census info has Statesboro / Bulloch County listed in the top 50 (#27) for growth in the nation, 3rd in Georgia (behind Charlton and Chattahoochee). This was based off of data for counties with at least 10K residents. Take your garbage posts elsewhere. Atlanta is a dump, people are getting out to areas like Paulding County because its a dump. Get over yourselves, there is Atlanta and then there is the rest of Georgia.

Not to go all citdog or anything, but everytime I see Atlanta, I realize what 300,000 Confederate soldiers died trying to prevent.

[Apphole]

Not to go all citdog or anything, but everytime I see Atlanta, I realize what 300,000 Confederate soldiers died trying to prevent.
Because ATL is full of black people? Or are there too many Yankees?

[Gringer1]

http://img.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/this-fred-just-took-a-turn-for-the-durst-500x375.jpg

[unknown3]

Guess thats why the latest census info has Statesboro / Bulloch County listed in the top 50 (#27) for growth in the nation, 3rd in Georgia (behind Charlton and Chattahoochee). This was based off of data for counties with at least 10K residents. Take your garbage posts elsewhere. Atlanta is a dump, people are getting out to areas like Paulding County because its a dump. Get over yourselves, there is Atlanta and then there is the rest of Georgia.

Not to go all citdog or anything, but everytime I see Atlanta, I realize what 300,000 Confederate soldiers died trying to prevent.

That's probably because the only people moving there are college students.xlolxxlolxxlolx I'm not even going to comment on "Atlanta being a dump" considering Statesboro is only good for a regional school and pulp wooding.xlolxxlolxxlolx

[Gringer1]

That's probably because the only people moving there are college students.

Uh, no. College students are under reported in the census data. Most of them are listed as living back home with their parents even if they live off campus.

[Mountaineer#96]

i will answer for him and say both...

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

That's probably because the only people moving there are college students.xlolxxlolxxlolx I'm not even going to comment on "Atlanta being a dump" considering Statesboro is only good for a regional school and pulp wooding.xlolxxlolxxlolx

Unless three quarters of the population of Statesboro are college students, they aren't counted in the actual population.

[LakesBison]

http://www.statesboroherald.com/section/1/article/40303/preview/

GSU is going FBS??

argh.......

[mgbison]

Interesting move, they are going from a big fish in a small pond to a small fish in a big pond. Izzo and Kolpack mentioned in their blog that Georgia Southern's athletic budget was 95th out of 125 FCS schools. They better open up their pocket books in Statesboro if they want to have any success.

[The Eagle's Cliff]

Interesting move, they are going from a big fish in a small pond to a small fish in a big pond. Izzo and Kolpack mentioned in their blog that Georgia Southern's athletic budget was 95th out of 125 FCS schools. They better open up their pocket books in Statesboro if they want to have any success.

You're right, but it should be noted that we've managed to have some success without the resources a lot of other schools have.

[swaghook]

I have a feeling if they move up their fans will have "Buyers remorse". I just don't understand this need for schools who fit well in the Division they are in try to make the move up to a higher Division and go absolutely no where once they get there. I know we have our fans who think NDSU should move up once again but I believe the admin of NDSU realizes that FCS is the best fit for the Bison.

[LakesBison]

Lets all face facts: fcs is viewed as small time, no matter how great the product is and there is ONLY 8-10 legit fcs programs:

Ga Southern
NDSU
Montana
Montana St
Appy St
Deleware
Richmond
James Madison
Northern Iowa

time to move all 8 of those into their own FBS conference?

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Lets all face facts: fcs is viewed as small time, no matter how great the product is and there is ONLY 8-10 legit fcs programs:

Ga Southern
NDSU
Montana
Montana St
Appy St
Deleware
Richmond
James Madison
Northern Iowa

time to move all 8 of those into their own FBS conference?


That is a pretty good list of FCS schools. Wonder how many of them will be in the preseason top-10?

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

Interesting move, they are going from a big fish in a small pond to a small fish in a big pond. Izzo and Kolpack mentioned in their blog that Georgia Southern's athletic budget was 95th out of 125 FCS schools. They better open up their pocket books in Statesboro if they want to have any success.

Don't really think the financial picture is as bleak as many make it out to be. The budgets factor in the cost-of-attendance for scholarships. We're right at the bottom of the SoCon in terms of our budget and we've done fine. Since we've joined the SoCon we have won more football SoCon championships than any other team, we're second (by a wide marigin) in baseball titles including 2 of the last 3, and we may very well have the top golf program in the conference as well. IMO we are closer to being able to compete in an FCS conference than the numbers indicate.


I have a feeling if they move up their fans will have "Buyers remorse". I just don't understand this need for schools who fit well in the Division they are in try to make the move up to a higher Division and go absolutely no where once they get there. I know we have our fans who think NDSU should move up once again but I believe the admin of NDSU realizes that FCS is the best fit for the Bison.

Depends on what you mean by "go absolutely no where". Anyone who thinks we can be the next Boise State isn't being realistic and will be disappointed. But no one should doubt that GSU would immediately be a power in a lower-tier football conference like the Sun Belt and have a good chance to get bowl bids every year.

I for one and sick and tired of watching teams that we could obliterate getting to play on top sports channels and getting more lucrative payouts while we are relegated to playing on premium sports channels. Take the New Mexico Bowl for example. Temple and Wyoming played on ESPN while GSU and NDSU were on ESPNU. Everyone who knows football knows GSU and NDSU could both beat the snot out of both Temple and Wyoming at a neutral location, but apparently that means jack s***.

Honestly, I'd rather stay in the FCS than move up. But, I'd also rather eat ice cream and candy bars for breakfast every morning instead of oatmeal.

[eaglewraith]

I have a feeling if they move up their fans will have "Buyers remorse". I just don't understand this need for schools who fit well in the Division they are in try to make the move up to a higher Division and go absolutely no where once they get there. I know we have our fans who think NDSU should move up once again but I believe the admin of NDSU realizes that FCS is the best fit for the Bison.

Another way to look at it though, we've won 6 titles here already. That's more than anyone else. We have the best record of any team EVER in the playoffs. We had the first 15-0 season due to the playoffs. It's kind of getting to the point where, what else is there for us to do here? There's no guarantee we'll catch lightning in the bottle like Boise did, but hell there's nothing against giving it a shot. It's just a new challenge, that's all.

We've come kind of close to a glass ceiling for the amount of support we can get from our fans. Many of them grow up UGA fans (or GT, FSU, Bama, Auburn, etc) and are used to seeing that type of product on the field. Many have said, "Come talk to us when you're FBS." Granted, we'd have some growing pains, but there's a high upside if you do things the right way.

I'm not happy with the way the bowl system works and all now, but it's highly likely some form of playoff gets put in the BCS before long. Once you crack that nut, it's destined to expand and allow more teams into it. Look at what's happened over the course of the FCS playoffs, they're likely to go to 24 very soon after starting out with 8 I think it was. To position ourselves to be able to one day participate in that, we've gotta get our foot in the door.

Also, to be perfectly honest, I love the playoffs a lot. However, many more of these semifinal games like the last couple of years and I think my life will be very shortlived ;) At least with a bowl game I don't have my heart ripped to pieces like the 4 semifinal losses I've been witness to.

[The Eagle's Cliff]

Lets all face facts: fcs is viewed as small time, no matter how great the product is and there is ONLY 8-10 legit fcs programs:

Ga Southern
NDSU
Montana
Montana St
Appy St
Deleware
Richmond
James Madison
Northern Iowa

time to move all 8 of those into their own FBS conference?

The "New Conference" idea has been explored. The problem with that idea is that there would be a 5 year period with no post-season. The alternative, which is also being explored, is a hybrid of current FBS and FCS schools starting a new conference. The NCAA bylaws are not clear about that scenario and a simple vote could lead to approval.

The next 12-18 months are critical as schools maneuver to prepare for the next BCS contract. For the schools not in AQ conferences, geography will be a top priority for the benefit of travel and natural rivalries.

FCS is great and I love it. Unfortunately, the NCAA (and sports media) treat FCS like the bastard stepchild. Nationwide, more people know about the Tuesday night game between UAB and UCF than the Saturday game between NDSU and UNI. We all know which game was better and more significant, but "it is what it is".

From a marketing standpoint, FBS just makes sense for Georgia Southern.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

IMO, GSU will be just fine. They are located in an area where football is "religion" and they will probably win right away in whatever conference they get in. If they keep the triple-option on offense I really like their chances. That offense is not run very much and teams do not see it.

[Apphole]

Lets all face facts: fcs is viewed as small time, no matter how great the product is and there is ONLY 8-10 legit fcs programs:

Ga Southern
NDSU
Montana
Montana St
Appy St
Deleware
Richmond
James Madison
Northern Iowa

time to move all 8 of those into their own FBS conference?

Oh please lakes. NDSU has NOT made it among these other schools just yet. One Natty and a half way decent fan following is a great start though.

[Apphole]

. Since we've joined the SoCon we have won more football SoCon championships than any other team

FALSE. Tied

[LakesBison]

APPHOLE. what?? NDSU was 10-1 and #1 2 years in a row, had a year and half dip in play, then SHOULD be Back 2 Back Nat'l Champs and will be #1 team in 2012 and 2013.

soooo yea..

[FormerPokeCenter]

Oh please lakes. NDSU has NOT made it among these other schools just yet. One Natty and a half way decent fan following is a great start though.

No disrespect to UNI, but they're in the same boat we are...No Nattys....so their inclusion on that list may be somewhat optimistic...

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

FALSE. Tied

No. We started in the SoCon in 1992 and in football in 1993. We're up one. xreadx

GSU: 1993, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2011
ASU: 1995, 1999, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010

[NDB]

Oh please lakes. NDSU has NOT made it among these other schools just yet. One Natty and a half way decent fan following is a great start though.


NDSU is an elite FCS program - period.

Ours fans, support, and tradition are second to none (I write that with an understanding and reverence for Appalachian, Georgia Southern, and Montana).

The 2011 FCS Championship was the NINTH for the Bison (in three classes, with a half dozen coaches, in four different decades) it won't be the last.

NDSU's success ADDS to FCS, it doesn't take away anything from anyone.

[TheBisonator]

NDSU is an elite FCS program - period.

Ours fans, support, and tradition are second to none (I write that with an understanding and reverence for Appalachian, Georgia Southern, and Montana).

The 2011 FCS Championship was the NINTH for the Bison (in three classes, with a half dozen coaches, in four different decades) it won't be the last.

NDSU's success ADDS to FCS, it doesn't take away anything from anyone.

NDB is absolutely right. If you don't believe that NDSU is now an elite FCS program, you have not been paying attention.

[Apphole]

Ours fans, support, and tradition are second to none


This is a ridiculous statement. Thanks for the laugh.

The fact is, your FCS resume doesn't compare with the Montanas and GaSos of the world and your fan support pales in comparison to Appalachian. Not saying you won't get there, but to go ahead and add your name to the list of elites is overzealous to say the least...

[The Eagle's Cliff]

I'd have to say NDSU is an elite FCS program. They have the resources, tradition, and fanbase to sustain their place among the elite. I wouldn't be surprised if they end up in the MAC or WAC very soon.

[AppMan]

Lets all face facts: fcs is viewed as small time, no matter how great the product is and there is ONLY 8-10 legit fcs programs:

Ga Southern
NDSU
Montana
Montana St
Appy St
Deleware
Richmond
James Madison
Northern Iowa

time to move all 8 of those into their own FBS conference?

That would be one more spread out conference! BTW, who is this Appy State you speak of?

[Eaglesrus]

That would be one more spread out conference! BTW, who is this Appy State you speak of?

It's that place up the mountain that the Appy Staters speak of.

[NDB]

This is a ridiculous statement. Thanks for the laugh.

The fact is, your FCS resume doesn't compare with the Montanas and GaSos of the world and your fan support pales in comparison to Appalachian. Not saying you won't get there, but to go ahead and add your name to the list of elites is overzealous to say the least...


First off, note that I never said better than.

Second, NDSU has more FCS championships than Montana and Georgia Southern combined (which was purposely NOT one of my measures).

How does our fan base pale in comparison? Because our stadium is smaller? Because we've had a large regional following for nearly 50 years? Because more than 13,000 Bison fans showed up in Frisco, Texas.

[AmsterBison]

That would be one more spread out conference! BTW, who is this Appy State you speak of?

According to a mistake in the Fargo Forum this weekend, it's an eite FCS program based somewhere in West Virginia. :)

http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/358124/

[Blueandwhitefightfight]

Second, NDSU has more FCS championships than Montana and Georgia Southern combined (which was purposely NOT one of my measures).



What on earth are you talking about? You have 1. GSU alone has 6. Are you talking about your DII championships???

[LakesBison]

obviously he is talking D2. NDSU is absolutely a top 3-4 program in FCS. Appy St, Geo Southern, Montana, NDSU. thats the group.


up nort here, we call's ya Appy St. after the michigan win, its a term of endearment.

[NDB]

What on earth are you talking about? You have 1. GSU alone has 6. Are you talking about your DII championships???

Only six FCS championships have been awarded.

[CropDuster]

Only six FCS championships have been awarded.

Really? That's your argument? NDSU has plenty to be proud of without this ridiculousness. You have one FCS/1AA championship, with more to come in the future I'm sure.

[NDB]

no, that's my response to apphole's comment.

[eaglewraith]

Only six FCS championships have been awarded.

FCS = 1-AA

No care about the difference. 6 is still greater than 1. Don't make me have to start teaching you math like I do these App State bums around here ;)

Honestly though, I understand the point you're making here...but just because they changed the name doesn't mean it is more significant than the championship that came before.

[Apphole]

no, that's my response to apphole's comment.

Oh yeah it's much less asinine/obnoxious when it's in response. xcrazyx

[NDB]

dude.

you're the dude who brought up championship records.

dude.

[cbarrier90]

I don't understand this. ASU and NDSU have played exactly zero times in FCS play (and every other sport, for that matter,) are on two completely different geographical regions of the U.S, and two completely different conferences. Each team's success has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

Can you not, as an ASU fan, simply sit back and appreciate what NDSU has accomplished. If you've paid attention post-2007, then you've realized that ASU is not the end-all be-all of FCS football, and it's perfectly acceptable for another program to experience success and support on par to what we experience in Boone on fall Saturdays. If this year is any indication, NDSU's program is well on their way to GSU, Montana level.

Now, if somebody will build a fire, I'll grab a guitar and we can all sing "Kum Bah Yah."

[Gringer1]

I thought you preferred the banjo around those parts? :P

[cbarrier90]

I thought you preferred the banjo around those parts? :P

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Doc_Watson_Sugar_Grove.jpg/220px-Doc_Watson_Sugar_Grove.jpg

Doc played the guitar :)

[LakesBison]

I cheered like hell for APPY state vs michigan. and honestly, as a ndsu fan, I always liked Appy State!

[Apphole]

I don't understand this. ASU and NDSU have played exactly zero times in FCS play (and every other sport, for that matter,) are on two completely different geographical regions of the U.S, and two completely different conferences. Each team's success has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

Can you not, as an ASU fan, simply sit back and appreciate what NDSU has accomplished. If you've paid attention post-2007, then you've realized that ASU is not the end-all be-all of FCS football, and it's perfectly acceptable for another program to experience success and support on par to what we experience in Boone on fall Saturdays. If this year is any indication, NDSU's program is well on their way to GSU, Montana level.

Now, if somebody will build a fire, I'll grab a guitar and we can all sing "Kum Bah Yah."

Yes, well on their way. As in not quite there yet. That's all I've said. You seemed to have missed the point in light of the disgruntled NDSU responses.

I don't think it's possible for a school that's been D-1 as short a period of time as NDSU to have any more success than they've had. It's just too damn early to put them in a list with the big 3. Judging by the bolded, you seem to agree with me. Don't be destracted by the angry Canadiens over reacting to my post. Everyone with a realistic outlook on FCS knows that the statements, "NDSU's fans, support, and tradition are second to none" and "NDSU has more FCS NC's than GaSo and Montana combined" are absolutely ridiculous.

NDSU is good but they're no UTC ;)

[frozennorth]

This is a ridiculous statement. Thanks for the laugh.

The fact is, your FCS resume doesn't compare with the Montanas and GaSos of the world and your fan support pales in comparison to Appalachian. Not saying you won't get there, but to go ahead and add your name to the list of elites is overzealous to say the least...

Unlike minor programs like app state, elite programs like ndsu, gsu, and montana have been able to win titles in multiple decades. App is just a flash in the pan.xrotatehx

:D

[asumike83]

Unlike minor programs like app state, elite programs like ndsu, gsu, and montana have been able to win titles in multiple decades. App is just a flash in the pan.xrotatehx

:D

2012 was in multiple decades? Learn something new every day. xlolx

[Apphole]

2012 was in multiple decades? Learn something new every day. xlolx

Why do they keep bringing up D-2?

GPA's don't carry over from high school to college.

[TheRevSFA]

First off, note that I never said better than.

Second, NDSU has more FCS championships than Montana and Georgia Southern combined (which was purposely NOT one of my measures).

How does our fan base pale in comparison? Because our stadium is smaller? Because we've had a large regional following for nearly 50 years? Because more than 13,000 Bison fans showed up in Frisco, Texas.

Who else are you going to follow? UND? Minnesota? Southern Manitoba University?

NDSU has a great fan base because they are the ONLY THING GOING ON IN NORTH DAKOTA. You, and even Montana, are not like Appy State, Ga South, McNeese, or any of the other southern schools because you don't have to compete against FBS teams in state. The closest you have to worry about is Minnesota, and they haven't had a football team worth two ****s in years.

When less people live in your state than in Charlotte, NC, it is pretty easy to get a state wide following

Is NDSU the best team in FCS? They were last season....there's no argument with that, but to use your D II titles to try to compare with Ga South, Appy and Montana..that's stretching it and pretty unbecoming. Be proud of what you've done during the transition and hope that it keeps going in the future.

Oh..on a side note, I don't see ND as a FBS market..but then again the WAC took Idaho..so they could be scraping the bottom of the media market barrel...

[parr90]

The thing that gets me is that these guys from ga state would even try to argue or compare themseves to Georgia Southern. There aint no comparison, as far as football goes. If you want to compare schools go to some academic board. As far as football though your comparing apples to celery. It aint even close. The amount of success verses the lack of is so great that why even bother. Amazing.

[parr90]

First off, note that I never said better than.

Second, NDSU has more FCS championships than Montana and Georgia Southern combined (which was purposely NOT one of my measures).

How does our fan base pale in comparison? Because our stadium is smaller? Because we've had a large regional following for nearly 50 years? Because more than 13,000 Bison fans showed up in Frisco, Texas.


No you dont. Your championships were in D2 not FCS. GSU has the most in FCS.

[blueballs]

App State and NDSU fans in a pissing contest on a GSU thread... this is pure nirvana!!!!!