Indoor football practice facilities, who's got them? [Archive]

darell1976

January 12th, 2012, 07:52 AM

Concept video for U of North Dakota's new facility:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDLTwu2JvWI

When this is finished it will be better than any practice facility NDSU has.

I know Youngstown has one of these and South Dakota St wants to get one.

Anyone else have something like this (could be a field without track as well)?

Thats the big question. This has been talked about for almost 2 years. They still need to demolish the old Engelstad Arena to even start breaking ground on this. Right now they only have a nice image on a website.

BEAR

January 12th, 2012, 07:58 AM

UCA has one. 50+ yard facility with turf. It's not air-conditioned as seen by the giant fans in the side of the building in photo #2. 100 degrees in the summer here and those giant fans just circulate the air. xlolx I'm grateful for Pepsi for donating it, there are division I FBS schools that don't have them!

http://www.ucasports.com/images/2010/9/1/large_PepsiIndoors.jpg

http://www.ucasports.com/images/2010/9/1/large_Pepsi-Outdoors.jpg

TTUEagles

January 12th, 2012, 08:57 AM

Here is Tennessee Tech's Indoor facility/weight room:

http://www.ttusports.com/apc

RichH2

January 12th, 2012, 08:58 AM

Lehigh has had indoor facilities at the Fieldhouse for quite a while

penguinpower

January 12th, 2012, 09:18 AM

http://www.ysusports.com/information/facilities/watts

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Click on the image. YSU's indoor practice facility is impressive.

asumike83

January 12th, 2012, 09:24 AM

I was not aware that so many FCS programs had them. UCA and YSU are both particularly impressive!

MplsBison

January 12th, 2012, 09:25 AM

Guys, I'm talking about an indoor field that's big enough to hold a legitimate indoor football practice on.

The 50 yard at UCA is probably the minimum size. The TTU indoor space is for doing warm-ups, sprints, plyo's, etc. Not for football practice. Assuming the same for Lehigh.

Pictures of actual or proposed facilities would be sweet!

It just kills me that NDSU is building a brand new indoor facility that is only going to have a 200m track and the infield is not even going to have turf (the building is just going to be for indoor track). Why the heck they're not building something like what UND has proposed is just stupid, brainless. UND is going to have a nicer facility than the national champions...

And I know some brainless NDSU fan is going to come on here and say something to the effect of "NDSU ALREEDY HAZ DA FARGOOODOME LOL!!!111" --- you're a moron.

pike51

January 12th, 2012, 09:26 AM

All are very nice. I know in bad weather, Georgia Southern practices indoors at our RAC facility on hardwood.

DFW HOYA

January 12th, 2012, 09:28 AM

Indoor? I'm still waiting for something outdoors!

http://www.cfa.gov/meetings/2004/jul/og04207.html

NoDak 4 Ever

January 12th, 2012, 09:28 AM

Thats the big question. This has been talked about for almost 2 years. They still need to demolish the old Engelstad Arena to even start breaking ground on this. Right now they only have a nice image on a website.

This.

I would prefer they finish the SHAC than get a practice facility for football. Seems to be we are not want for preparation.

MplsBison

January 12th, 2012, 09:28 AM

Thats the big question. This has been talked about for almost 2 years. They still need to demolish the old Engelstad Arena to even start breaking ground on this. Right now they only have a nice image on a website.

Yeah but we're talking about when, not if. You know UND is going to get it done and it's going to be a first class building, that's how they generally do things even if it takes longer.

Just kills me...

asumike83

January 12th, 2012, 09:40 AM

Sofield Family Indoor Practice Facility:

80 yards x 60 yards
http://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/pics31/0/RM/RMQEYWLPAFKBZFF.20100907155141.jpg

danefan

January 12th, 2012, 10:17 AM

Indoor? I'm still waiting for something outdoors!

http://www.cfa.gov/meetings/2004/jul/og04207.html

Me too!

BEAR

January 12th, 2012, 10:52 AM

UCA's may be the minimum, but it's more than enough to practice in I promise you that! Defense and Offense have zero problem with space in that facility. The kickers practice outside of course, but drills, cones, and the passing game have tons of room. How many pass plays go for more than 50 yards from QB to Reciever anyway. xlolx. It's a massive place with a big upside for rainy Arkansas days and the new weight facillity built on the side of it makes it even bigger!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/401147_166046020167391_100002859834685_213207_6728 21242_n.jpg

It goes the entire length of the practice facility and even has a 40 yard dash area painted in the middle to time that exercise! Hey, moving up to divisiion I we needed to improve our facilities and the Pepsi Center and the brand new weight room are part of it.

BEAR

January 12th, 2012, 10:55 AM

Sofield Family Indoor Practice Facility:

80 yards x 60 yards
http://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/pics31/0/RM/RMQEYWLPAFKBZFF.20100907155141.jpg

Looks like the same company made ours that made yours. xlolx Except when your players hit the support beams they have pads, ours just bleed. xlolx

http://www.ucasports.com/images/2010/9/1/large_PepsiIndoors.jpg

asumike83

January 12th, 2012, 10:58 AM

They do look strikingly similar!

BisonHype!

January 12th, 2012, 11:06 AM

Nice facilities guys!

clenz

January 12th, 2012, 11:11 AM

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4143/4738091940_988fdbc8a4_z.jpg

darell1976

January 12th, 2012, 11:18 AM

All these practice facilities look nice how much do they cost??

MplsBison

January 12th, 2012, 11:47 AM

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4143/4738091940_988fdbc8a4_z.jpg

But how many concerns, events, whatever use the floor in a given sports year? Does your indoor track team practice in there too? Etc.

NDSU can't use the Fargodome whenever they want due to other things going on.

darell1976

January 12th, 2012, 11:50 AM

MplsBison

January 12th, 2012, 11:52 AM

Point being the Dome is not a real indoor facility any more than Alerus is. Hence why UND is building one.

NDSU should've pulled their head out of their rears and built something similar instead of this indoor track only crap.

Sly Fox

January 12th, 2012, 01:10 PM

We have an indoor track that we use in moments of desperation but it is definitely not a facility we can rely on for football.

Word is that one of the stipulations that Coach Gill laid out when being interviewed for his job was that the school build an indoor practice facility. So supposedly we are looking at options right now. It is essentially a prerequisite in showing FBS leagues that you are serious about making a step up.

TheRevSFA

January 12th, 2012, 01:14 PM

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4143/4738091940_988fdbc8a4_z.jpg

How long til they fix the seats? Right now it looks like you ripped off an Ecuadorian soccer stadium for the colors..

FargoBison

January 12th, 2012, 01:33 PM

BEAR

January 12th, 2012, 01:49 PM

All these practice facilities look nice how much do they cost??

Zero. Nothing. Nada. Pepsi donated it if we would put their giant logo on the side. xlolx Give 'em a call. They like up-and-coming programs. ;.)

NoDak 4 Ever

January 12th, 2012, 01:56 PM

Zero. Nothing. Nada. Pepsi donated it if we would put their giant logo on the side. xlolx Give 'em a call. They like up-and-coming programs. ;.)

It appears to have been PepsiAmericas which at the time was the 2nd largest bottler of Pepsi in the United States. Incidentally, they were based in Minneapolis and owned by the Pohlad family. They had a call center in Fargo. They were purchased by Pepsi so I'm not sure the same deal would exist.

darell1976

January 12th, 2012, 02:25 PM

Zero. Nothing. Nada. Pepsi donated it if we would put their giant logo on the side. xlolx Give 'em a call. They like up-and-coming programs. ;.)

Sweet deal for UCA!!!!

WestCoastAggie

January 12th, 2012, 02:49 PM

Article on Tenn. State's new indoor practice facility.

http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews.com/log/index.php/2011/08/28/tennessee-state-opens-doors-to?blog=2

TheBisonator

January 12th, 2012, 02:57 PM

NDSU's new Shelly Ellig Center will not just be used for indoor track. It will have the equipment in there for softball and baseball practices, plus the XC teams will be using it as well.

That's five NDSU sports that will be using the new building.

DFW HOYA

January 12th, 2012, 03:11 PM

Article on Tenn. State's new indoor practice facility.

http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews.com/log/index.php/2011/08/28/tennessee-state-opens-doors-to?blog=2

"TSU is one of six Football Championship Subdivision schools that has an indoor facility. The others are Dartmouth, Maine, Northern Iowa, Penn and Youngstown State."

Penn has an indoor football facility, where?

LehighU11

January 12th, 2012, 03:32 PM

UCABEARS75

January 12th, 2012, 04:13 PM

ngineer

January 12th, 2012, 04:42 PM

Lehigh has had indoor facilities at the Fieldhouse for quite a while

But not a football field surface. It's functional for running non-contact drills and plays, but you can't do any serious hitting on that surface.

LehighU11

January 12th, 2012, 06:04 PM

But not a football field surface. It's functional for running non-contact drills and plays, but you can't do any serious hitting on that surface.

There is a team in the Indoor Football League based out of Stabler Arena (home of LU basketball). Didn't the team run some drills in there last year to simulate crowd noise before the game at UNI?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54EMdgvr2q0&feature=related

frozennorth

January 12th, 2012, 06:05 PM

what i really want to know is will I get to use that track should they get it built before I leave?

BEAR

January 12th, 2012, 06:25 PM

UCA's originally cost about $2.2 million 7 years or so ago and , yes, Pepsi donated about 90 percent of that.

The soon to be opened weight facility, including much needed restrooms and water fountains, cost another $1.0-$1.2 million which we. (UCA) paid for.

That's true. I forgot about that. Still, $200,000 for a $2.2 million building....might as well be zero. That things beams will be up there for another 40 years..solid. xlolx

clenz

January 12th, 2012, 07:02 PM

But how many concerns, events, whatever use the floor in a given sports year? Does your indoor track team practice in there too? Etc.

NDSU can't use the Fargodome whenever they want due to other things going on.

The UNIDome is in use quite frequently. We roll the turf up (including weekends during the fall when the team is away/bye for events. That is the home for the indoor track teams, national wrestling events, concerts, trade shows, graduation, softball games when the weather sucks early in the season (watched a NDSU/UNI game there a couple years ago...maybe it was UND), State football quaters, semi's, and finals, large basketball camps, with courts set up on it, a JUCO bowl game, state competitions for kids in football skills, etc... Hell, up until 2006 it was the home of basketball and wrestling as well.

This month has
Jan 3 (7:00) Republican Caucus
Jan 7-8 Black Hawk County RC Pilots EXPO
Jan 14 UNI Track Meet
Jan 15 UNI Track Camp
Jan 20-22 Boat Show
Jan 27-28 UNI Track Meet
Jan 29 USA Wrestling State Tournament

During the school year between all of that the dome is busy more than it is not. Couple that with the fact it is connected to the Wellness and Recreation Center on campus and is open to the public for exercise use the dome is always very busy. There have been many times where myself (and many others) have been in there running stairs and what not during football practice.

As for the seatbacks, I believe they are the original backs and there is a big push from fans to get rid of the ****ty colors. However, that requires money that UNI doesn't have to sink into seatbacks right now. I'm all for just getting ride of them completely as it would be cheaper and very few football venues seem to actually have backs on their bleachers. However, I would love to see them repainted in purple, rather than the yellow, blue, and red we have now.

MplsBison

January 12th, 2012, 07:05 PM

The money wasn't there for an indoor facility, we needed a track now to further the BSA project along. It isn't a big deal anyway, the dome is available enough for NDSU not to need a dedicated facility.

1 - wrong

2 - it's about recruiting! UND will have the top facility in the state. That's not acceptable.

NoDak 4 Ever

January 12th, 2012, 07:11 PM

1 - wrong

2 - it's about recruiting! UND will have the top facility in the state. That's not acceptable.

If they had the money, the BSA would be renovated right now.

If you honestly think that proposed practice facility is going to be the reason someone chooses UND over NDSU, you clearly haven't been around the last 6 months.

darell1976

January 12th, 2012, 07:34 PM

If they had the money, the BSA would be renovated right now.

If you honestly think that proposed practice facility is going to be the reason someone chooses UND over NDSU, you clearly haven't been around the last 6 months.

UND needs every advantage possible. You are right its not "the" reason but it helps. Also if UND had the money it would be built, but they haven't done anything outside of the internet on this yet.

AppMan

January 12th, 2012, 09:30 PM

Sofield Family Indoor Practice Facility:

80 yards x 60 yards
http://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/pics31/0/RM/RMQEYWLPAFKBZFF.20100907155141.jpg

Those photos on the website need updating. Conference & National Championship banners have been added as well as a few other things to spruce the place up.

Twentysix

January 12th, 2012, 09:47 PM

Those photos on the website need updating. Conference & National Championship banners have been added as well as a few other things to spruce the place up.

Did someone order a tree?

http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/define-norway-spruce-1.jpg

FargoBison

January 12th, 2012, 10:21 PM

1 - wrong

2 - it's about recruiting! UND will have the top facility in the state. That's not acceptable.

The new BSA will include student lounge areas and new weight training areas, it will be a great advantage for football. We don't need an indoor facility, the dome and our outdoor sprinturf practice field work just fine.

Maybe when the BSA work is done we can work on getting a bubble for our outdoor sprinturf practice field.

penguinpower

January 12th, 2012, 10:29 PM

YOUNGSTOWN STATE'S INDOOR FACILITY WAS OVER $13 MM AND IS 100 YARDS PLUS A TRACK. THE PLACE IS REALLY IMPRESSIVE AND HAS A TRACK AROUND THE FIELD. IT IS ABSOLUTELY OUTSTANDING AND THE LIGHTING IS UNBELIEVABLE. IT IS CALLED THE WATTS CENTER (WATSON AND TRESSEL TRAINING SITE) GOOGLE IT.

darell1976

January 13th, 2012, 10:54 AM

Thanks for a SiouxSports poster who did a little digging..UND's new Indoor Practice and Compeition Arena fund is set up at $20 million (most of the that will be the new IPF, along with renovations to the Hyslop Sports Center) to be raised as part of the Spirit Campaign to go to academics, scholarships, etc. The goal is $300 million...they have $245 million as of now. The campaign started in 2005 and runs through the end of 2013. So 2014 could be the year UND starts the IPF hard to say.

http://spirit.und.edu/Units/Athletics.php#Students

Extraordinary Places
Indoor Practice & Competition Arena: $20 million

http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/226465/

The UND North Dakota Spirit campaign has raised $245.5 million toward its $300 million goal, Tim O’Keefe, UND Foundation executive director and CEO, told a gathering of UND alumni, supporters, students, faculty and staff Thursday.

The campaign began in 2005 and continues through the end of 2013.

MplsBison

January 13th, 2012, 01:05 PM

The new BSA will include student lounge areas and new weight training areas, it will be a great advantage for football. We don't need an indoor facility, the dome and our outdoor sprinturf practice field work just fine.

Maybe when the BSA work is done we can work on getting a bubble for our outdoor sprinturf practice field.

The Dome does not count as an indoor practice facility, because NDSU can't use it whenver they need to. You knew that, but decided to post false information anyway.

A dome over the turf practice field would be the cheap way out. St Cloud St and MIAC schools already have those.

Typical "we'll make do" North Dakotan....

NoDak 4 Ever

January 13th, 2012, 01:14 PM

The Dome does not count as an indoor practice facility, because NDSU can't use it whenver they need to. You knew that, but decided to post false information anyway.

A dome over the turf practice field would be the cheap way out. St Cloud St and MIAC schools already have those.

Typical "we'll make do" North Dakotan....

Just like the ticket situation, you seem to be the only one worried about it. If you're so concerned that our 14-1 National Championship team is ill-prepared because of the lack of a dedicated practice field, write a check. They'll probably name it after you.

In the meantime, we should be worried about our horribly inadequate basketball facility which still isn't paid for yet.

FargoBison

January 13th, 2012, 02:29 PM

darell1976

January 13th, 2012, 02:32 PM

FargoBison

January 13th, 2012, 02:34 PM

Any idea how many seats that new BSA or whatever its called will hold? I saw a pic of it on BVille looks awesome!

I believe 5700, which is about 200 seats less than the current BSA.

Hammerhead

January 13th, 2012, 02:48 PM

It would be nice if NDSU could put a bubble over Dacotah Field (now a practice field) like the one in Rochester, MN. that is pictured below.

http://www.rctc.edu/stadium/

http://www.rctc.edu/stadium/images_magnifier/wide-field.jpg

http://www.rctc.edu/athletics/html/football/images/stadium-arial.jpg

FargoBison

January 13th, 2012, 03:02 PM

NoDak 4 Ever

January 13th, 2012, 03:07 PM

Probably wouldn't be good enough for Mpls though....

Apparently not.

The Dome does not count as an indoor practice facility, because NDSU can't use it whenver they need to. You knew that, but decided to post false information anyway.

A dome over the turf practice field would be the cheap way out. St Cloud St and MIAC schools already have those.

Typical "we'll make do" North Dakotan....

TheBisonator

January 13th, 2012, 03:40 PM

Any idea how many seats that new BSA or whatever its called will hold? I saw a pic of it on BVille looks awesome!

Capacity will be 5,945.

MplsBison

January 13th, 2012, 05:15 PM

Gotta love Mpls, a facility that we use a number of times for indoor practices doesn't count. A dedicated football practice facility is nowhere near a priority right now, it is a luxury. The BSA renovation will have a much bigger impact for football than an indoor practice facility.

The BSA has nothing to do with football. Are you insane?

The weight room equipment is already upgraded, just a new space. Everything for football is in the dome (except the weight room).

Good for basketball, but they don't pay the bills at the school. Football does. And I say whatever football needs to stay at the bleeding edge of recruiting competitiveness (relatively speaking) -- they've G-D earned it!

MplsBison

January 13th, 2012, 05:16 PM

It would be nice if NDSU could put a bubble over Dacotah Field (now a practice field) like the one in Rochester, MN. that is pictured below.

Wow!!

If only NDSU could get the level of a St Cloud St or Augsburg College, both of which have bubbles now. What a dream...

FargoBison

January 13th, 2012, 05:41 PM

The BSA has nothing to do with football. Are you insane?

The weight room equipment is already upgraded, just a new space. Everything for football is in the dome (except the weight room).

Good for basketball, but they don't pay the bills at the school. Football does. And I say whatever football needs to stay at the bleeding edge of recruiting competitiveness (relatively speaking) -- they've G-D earned it!

The current weight training facility is not adequate Mr. bleeding edge of recruiting. The new BSA will also have areas for student athletes, academic areas and rehab/sports medicine facilites. The BSA renovation is going to help football, the football team uses the BSA far more than you realize.

The basketball team and many other sports need the BSA much more than the football team needs a $10-20 million indoor practice facility. Especially when you consider the Fargodome makes the facility redundant to a degree.

TheBisonator

January 13th, 2012, 06:04 PM

TheBisonator

January 13th, 2012, 06:08 PM

NDSU football needs these to be built more than an IPF right now. Right now the weight facility is located directly above all the athletic offices with a flimsy floor located between them. (and it looks like a pile of crap compared to so many new facilities being built in the FCS) The noise from the dropping barbells goes directly down to the athletic administration offices. Plaster from the ceiling below sometimes gets sloughed off from the vibration and has to be constantly replaced. This new project would put it in a place that would not affect any adjacent room.

http://www.gobison.com/pics31/640/JO/JOIYGDKBRQOTHRW.20100927135355.jpg

http://www.gobison.com/pics31/640/XN/XNTYKQMSGKSZOTU.20100927135428.jpg

ngineer

January 13th, 2012, 10:27 PM

There is a team in the Indoor Football League based out of Stabler Arena (home of LU basketball). Didn't the team run some drills in there last year to simulate crowd noise before the game at UNI?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54EMdgvr2q0&feature=related

No. They practiced inside Rauch, as they did this year with speakers. Stabler, at that time of year, is set up for wrestling and basketball. The turf used for the Steelhawks football team is not Lehigh's.

NoDak 4 Ever

January 14th, 2012, 07:01 AM

No. They practiced inside Rauch, as they did this year with speakers. Stabler, at that time of year, is set up for wrestling and basketball. The turf used for the Steelhawks football team is not Lehigh's.

Should have practiced inside an airplane hanger with a 747 running the background to simulate the FD.

MplsBison

January 14th, 2012, 10:34 AM

The football team will be using the BSA for training. (Weights, agility, etc.)

A majority of a college football player's time spent on activities related to his playing football is spent in physical training. (Activities that are spent in and around the weight room) The place that the NDSU FB players will spend more time at than any other athletic building on campus will be the new SHAC (renovated BSA).

Yep, probably none of their time will be spent in team meetings, position meetings, practice, dining hall.

And you claim to be some kind of insider or even worked for the football team???? Come on..

MplsBison

January 14th, 2012, 10:38 AM

The current weight training facility is not adequate Mr. bleeding edge of recruiting. The new BSA will also have areas for student athletes, academic areas and rehab/sports medicine facilites. The BSA renovation is going to help football, the football team uses the BSA far more than you realize.

The basketball team and many other sports need the BSA much more than the football team needs a $10-20 million indoor practice facility. Especially when you consider the Fargodome makes the facility redundant to a degree.

As I said, they already have top of the line weight lifting equipment. I've seen the BSA space, not exactly top notch - and that's the only thing of the BSA renovation that will significantly help recruiting football players.

Nothing I say is going to change the fact that the BSA is going to be renovated, but G-D they could have damn well raised 10 million more to make a real indoor practice facility! Football deserves it and when (not if) they go up to FBS they will need that to stay competitive in recruiting.

roTSU50

January 14th, 2012, 10:42 AM

Tennessee State has one!!!! Just opened last year.

http://tnstatenewsroom.com/2011/08/tsu-opens-doors-to-indoor-facility/

http://http://cmsimg.tennessean.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?NewTbl=1&Site=DN&Date=20110828&Category=SPORTS06&ArtNo=108280804&Ref=PH&Item=3&Maxw=640&Maxh=410&q=60

roTSU50

January 14th, 2012, 10:49 AM

One thing that they are starting to do is have a high school 7 on 7 tourney in the facility!!!!! Great recruitment tool. Being in Tennessee, we won't need it that often though.

NoDak 4 Ever

January 14th, 2012, 11:01 AM

Who ****in cares?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PXAQD523Fsw/TAAjA3W3MxI/AAAAAAAAGak/hTfdybmLE9E/s1600/gary+coleman.jpg

MTfan4life

January 16th, 2012, 12:56 PM

The BSA has nothing to do with football. Are you insane?

The weight room equipment is already upgraded, just a new space. Everything for football is in the dome (except the weight room).

Good for basketball, but they don't pay the bills at the school. Football does. And I say whatever football needs to stay at the bleeding edge of recruiting competitiveness (relatively speaking) -- they've G-D earned it!

Only in your fancy dream world can a school just prioritize all of it's money towards football. Also, kids don't pick a school simply because they have an indoor practice facility that can be used at all times.

"Ah sure NDSU has a pretty good tradition, program, philosophy, and a much better fan base, but damn, did you see that UND practice facility? And I can use it whenever I want. I'm going there."

darell1976

January 16th, 2012, 04:06 PM

Only in your fancy dream world can a school just prioritize all of it's money towards football. Also, kids don't pick a school simply because they have an indoor practice facility that can be used at all times.

"Ah sure NDSU has a pretty good tradition, program, philosophy, and a much better fan base, but damn, did you see that UND practice facility? And I can use it whenever I want. I'm going there."

Exactly. When UND has theirs its just a tool to help their football team its not a given that recruits are going to pick that school just for the IPF. Plus this building is for other things not football related too.

BEAR

January 17th, 2012, 01:52 PM

UCA just released the photos of the finished weight training facility that is attached to the indoor practice facility. Below is the link to the official story but you have to click on the "here" to get actual pics of the place. I'm not computer savy enough to post them here. xlolx

http://www.ucasports.com/news/2012/1/17/GEN_0117121005.aspx#.TxXP9MtqjW0.facebook

#5 is the best overall view IMO. Glad to get such great facilities for the athletes. Now we can work on that stadium size. ;.)

I'm still trying to figure out how the women's basketball team uses this:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/379958_3103165786232_1476866799_3014140_455957740_ n.jpg

ysubigred

January 27th, 2012, 09:44 AM

MplsBison

January 27th, 2012, 10:45 AM

New pix of the YSU indoor facility. This is a great recruiting tool for the kids coming in from the west and south xbowx

http://www.ysusports.com/information/facilities/WATTSTwilight.jpg?max_height=340&max_width=536

Beautiful facility - no doubt it will aid recruiting (at FCS or FBS level).

It's brainless that NDSU is building an indoor facility only large enough to house a 200m track. YSU's (and UND's when they build it) will have a 300m track!

G-D brainless.

MTfan4life

January 27th, 2012, 01:18 PM

Beautiful facility - no doubt it will aid recruiting (at FCS or FBS level).

It's brainless that NDSU is building an indoor facility only large enough to house a 200m track. YSU's (and UND's when they build it) will have a 300m track!

G-D brainless.

200 meters is the official size of an indoor track brainless. How dare they build a facility for any sport other than football at NDSU!!! They're trying to draw more students to their campus. The football team isn't going to start making less money. They're just widening their options. Track and field rosters are at a combined total of 90-100. That's a lot of student influx into the school.

TheRevSFA

January 27th, 2012, 01:49 PM

This is Sam Houston's indoor practice facility and field house.

Pretty impressive

http://prisoncellss.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Texas-Prison.jpg

ysubigred

January 27th, 2012, 02:31 PM

Beautiful facility - no doubt it will aid recruiting (at FCS or FBS level).

It's brainless that NDSU is building an indoor facility only large enough to house a 200m track. YSU's (and UND's when they build it) will have a 300m track!

G-D brainless.

I think you're confused? I believe YSU's track is 200 MTR. Maybe they are building NDSU to a smaller than 200 MTR dimension?

http://www.ysusports.com/information/facilities/WATTSIndoor.jpg?max_height=340&max_width=536

bonarae

January 27th, 2012, 05:54 PM

"TSU is one of six Football Championship Subdivision schools that has an indoor facility. The others are Dartmouth, Maine, Northern Iowa, Penn and Youngstown State."

Penn has an indoor football facility, where?

Harvard also has a "bubble" (http://www.gocrimson.com/information/facilities/Harvard_Stadium_Bubble) used in the historic Harvard Stadium that is open to all teams of Harvard's outdoor land sports (not just football) in addition to intramural and club programs.

Dartmouth's: http://dartmouthsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=11600&ATCLID=590350

Penn's facilities page is apparently broken. No sign of the Palestra either.

chattownmocs

January 27th, 2012, 08:13 PM

Indoor practices are great for inclement weather and all, especially if you want you team to wilt in the rain or snow. Feast your eyes on THE MECCA of FCS practice facilities. SCRAPPY MOORE FIELD

http://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/pics31/400/UN/UNDXPVXTUOPKYTV.20100806004551.jpg

MplsBison

January 28th, 2012, 09:07 AM

I think you're confused? I believe YSU's track is 200 MTR. Maybe they are building NDSU to a smaller than 200 MTR dimension?

http://www.ysusports.com/information/facilities/WATTSIndoor.jpg?max_height=340&max_width=536

It's 300m. http://ysusports.com/information/facilities/watts

Same design as Akron's facility.

NoDak 4 Ever

January 28th, 2012, 09:12 AM

Well crap. If we can't get an indoor facility with a 300m track, we probably just go the Morningside route and go DIII. We will never be able to compete with powerhouses like YSU.

MplsBison

January 28th, 2012, 09:32 AM

200 meters is the official size of an indoor track brainless. How dare they build a facility for any sport other than football at NDSU!!! They're trying to draw more students to their campus. The football team isn't going to start making less money. They're just widening their options. Track and field rosters are at a combined total of 90-100. That's a lot of student influx into the school.

Took me a little while to find the NCAA rule book for T&F, but it is a free download (https://www.ncaapublications.com/p-4188-2011-2012-mens-womens-cross-country-track-field-rules-2-year-publication.aspx).

Here is the exact wording with regard to indoor track length:

Oval Track and Lanes
ARTICLE 3. The standard indoor running track shall be 200 meters. This
distance may be reduced or exceeded. Indoor tracks that are equal to or
exceed the standard outdoor running track length, as defined by Rule 1-1.2,
shall not be considered an indoor track. The length of any indoor track
constructed after January 1, 2004, shall not exceed 300 meters.
The track shall consist of two horizontal straights and two

So obviously 300m is accepted and there are a number of schools that have such facilities.

It makes sense for any school building a new indoor track to build it at 300m as it gives them the most bang for the buck in terms of indoor field practice area while still maintaining an officially accepted indoor track.

And frankly, if the 200m track is not banked it's going to be slow. That's a pretty tight turn. On the other hand, a 300m allows you to get a larger radius.

So as you can see - everything points to a 300m indoor track providing the most benefit to all athletes. Not just football.

And the overarching point is that UND is going to have the best football practice facility in the state when their facility is completed. NDSU will have nothing of the sort. Just a turf field at the old stadium.

MTfan4life

January 29th, 2012, 04:07 AM

Standard is still standard and standard is most desired.

MplsBison

January 29th, 2012, 01:24 PM

Standard is still standard and standard is most desired.

Thanks for confirming you were wrong and I was right.

300m is accepted by the NCAA as an indoor track and makes the most sense for any school building a new facility for that sport so as to maximize utility for all student athletes.

xpeacex

MTfan4life

January 29th, 2012, 02:02 PM

Thanks for confirming you were wrong and I was right.

300m is accepted by the NCAA as an indoor track and makes the most sense for any school building a new facility for that sport so as to maximize utility for all student athletes.

xpeacex

I don't believe I ever said a false or wrong statement. I said 200 meters is official.

MplsBison

January 29th, 2012, 02:34 PM

I don't believe I ever said a false or wrong statement. I said 200 meters is official.

So is 300m, as I showed. Thanks

MTfan4life

January 29th, 2012, 03:19 PM

So is 300m, as I showed. Thanks

You're welcome.

TheBisonator

January 29th, 2012, 03:52 PM

Will MplsBison PLEASE shut the hell up. Thank you.

MplsBison

January 29th, 2012, 07:53 PM

Will MplsBison PLEASE shut the hell up. Thank you.

I take the most pleasure in knowing that I annoy you, personally.

xlolx

steelbison

January 29th, 2012, 09:44 PM

Will MplsBison PLEASE shut the hell up. Thank you.
I second this. God mplsbison you are an ego maniac. You think your smarter than everyone else on EVERY subject. 200 meters is standard. Anyone that knows anything about track knows that. Except your dumbass.

MplsBison

January 29th, 2012, 09:57 PM

I second this. God mplsbison you are an ego maniac. You think your smarter than everyone else on EVERY subject. 200 meters is standard. Anyone that knows anything about track knows that. Except your dumbass.

You're

BisonFan02

January 29th, 2012, 11:30 PM

You're right

FIFY

ysubigred

January 30th, 2012, 07:30 AM

It's 300m. http://ysusports.com/information/facilities/watts

Same design as Akron's facility.

Cool. I was just going by the 200M qoute for someone else.

MplsBison

January 30th, 2012, 09:31 AM

Cool. I was just going by the 200M qoute for someone else.

They don't know what they're talking about.

As I showed, 200m is just a standard - but the official length can be anything up to and including 300m.

No doubt (the smart) schools will want to be getting the most bang for their buck.

NoDak 4 Ever

January 30th, 2012, 10:14 AM

They don't know what they're talking about.

As I showed, 200m is just a standard - but the official length can be anything up to and including 300m.

No doubt (the smart) schools will want to be getting the most bang for their buck.

You're right, because they aren't building a IPF with a 300m track, they are not smart. I can tell you this, if they had even thought about building anything else before they finish renovating the BSA, they wouldn't get another nickel from me.

MplsBison

January 30th, 2012, 01:39 PM

You're right, because they aren't building a IPF with a 300m track, they are not smart. I can tell you this, if they had even thought about building anything else before they finish renovating the BSA, they wouldn't get another nickel from me.

I'm sure that thought keeps them up at nights.

18k per game vs 3k per game.

NoDak 4 Ever

January 30th, 2012, 01:41 PM

I'm sure that thought keeps them up at nights.

18k per game vs 3k per game.

As you are almost in an infinite minority of opinion, I believe there are plenty of others like mine.

CrazyCat

January 30th, 2012, 02:36 PM

A 200m banked track is used for the NCAA indoor T&F championships.

TheBisonator

January 30th, 2012, 03:42 PM

I'm sure that thought keeps them up at nights.

18k per game vs 3k per game.

So that means the team that averages 3,000 per game doesn't deserve to have a facility that is not the bane of jokes around mid-major basketball??

I used to work for Bison football, but in my college years, I probably spent more time and energy and attention on Bison basketball. NDSU basketball honestly gets me more emotional than the football team. Which is not to say I don't love NDSU football. But I bet there are a lot more people like me than you think.

MplsBison

January 30th, 2012, 04:11 PM

A 200m banked track is used for the NCAA indoor T&F championships.

Yes, Texas A&M - a school that just built a huge, custom indoor track facility with a banked 200m track.....adjacent to the giant indoor practice field that they built at the same time - bid the highest to host the indoor T&F meet.

The largest schools with a 300m indoor facility I believe are U of Washington and Notre Dame - neither of which is going to outbid an SEC school in anything related to track and field.

MplsBison

January 30th, 2012, 04:15 PM

So that means the team that averages 3,000 per game doesn't deserve to have a facility that is not the bane of jokes around mid-major basketball??

I used to work for Bison football, but in my college years, I probably spent more time and energy and attention on Bison basketball. NDSU basketball honestly gets me more emotional than the football team. Which is not to say I don't love NDSU football. But I bet there are a lot more people like me than you think.

Not like they haven't wanted to renovate that ugly white box since...forever.

NDSU basketball's best ever season - the 2009 team that lost to Kansas in the Metrodome - still couldn't raise enough excitement about the program to bring in the cash needed to get things rolling. Money talks.

You and your 2999 buddies should get out your checkbooks if you want the ugly white box to get some dressings.

NoDak 4 Ever

January 30th, 2012, 04:34 PM

Not like they haven't wanted to renovate that ugly white box since...forever.

NDSU basketball's best ever season - the 2009 team that lost to Kansas in the Metrodome - still couldn't raise enough excitement about the program to bring in the cash needed to get things rolling. Money talks.

You and your 2999 buddies should get out your checkbooks if you want the ugly white box to get some dressings.

and you're the only one who gives a **** about this stupid indoor practice field so as I said 100 posts ago, get YOUR checkbook out.

clenz

January 30th, 2012, 04:55 PM

FWIW, UNI's indoor track (under the turf of the dome) is 200m and has hosted many indoor MVC Conference Championship meets

FCSbuff319

January 30th, 2012, 05:48 PM

I'm sure that thought keeps them up at nights.

18k per game vs 3k per game.

Is not having an indoor practice facility going to change that 18,000 that has been there in the times without one? That's what it sounds like you're saying. Because NDSU doesn't have one, their attendance is going to tank. You have a point, I know I only go to football games if the team has a larger than 200 meter track surrounding their indoor practice facility. I bet everyone else will too.

MplsBison

January 30th, 2012, 08:13 PM

FWIW, UNI's indoor track (under the turf of the dome) is 200m and has hosted many indoor MVC Conference Championship meets

How many MVC schools have access to a legit indoor track?

clenz

January 30th, 2012, 10:29 PM

How many MVC schools have access to a legit indoor track?

Without actually looking....I would bet that Wichita State (200m)...Creighton if they carried track and field....Bradley just added track back and I've read they will be having a facility for it (don't know if it will be new or renovated)...I don't know the condition of ISUr's indoor facility, but they have a 200m track

I went and looked at ISUr's...it's not bad

http://media.lawrence.com/img/photos/2011/01/21/HortonFieldhouse_t440.JPG?9e2a24ba44807f8f9b96aad7 c4082bf6ded075dc

Long of it short, UNI has the best indoor facility in the conference....

http://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/pics32/640/HR/HRYAPXLFNTQRLHL.20120125195514.jpg

It's not SEC quality by any stretch, but for a "non-power conference" it's one of the better ones around. Heck, if the dome is ever replaced as a football stadium the dome would likely turn into a indoor track with banked turns and what not and make a push to host national events.

Long story short, not many schools have indoor facilities...and even fewer have nice facilities....and even fewer have 300m tracks for a reason. Why run on a 300m all year only to have to adjust to 200m at nationals or every other track you'll run on.

MplsBison

January 31st, 2012, 08:46 AM

UNI's is the same thing NDSU has now in the BSA. Non-banked 200m oval, which kills your times due to the small radius.

The NCAA T&F are always going to be hosted by SEC level facilities, which will be banked 200m ovals. The reason is that these schools have so much money they don't need to utilize benefit of a 300m track providing an indoor practice field at the same time. In fact, the infields on these banked 200m facilities don't even have turf...they're truly dedicated to track.

This is what NDSU is building - which I think is completely stupid. NDSU is not an SEC school, it does not have a huge, dedicated indoor facility (and for the millionth time - no, the Fargodome doesn't count you friggin morons).

clenz

January 31st, 2012, 08:53 AM

The UNIDome doesn't have turf on the infield. It is completely dedicated to track when the football turf is up.

I know some former track guys from UNI and apparently UNI has/is looking at a way to get "temporary" banking for the track. It sounds like if the money was there it would be in place by now.

Once UNI gets the banking...not if but when...there will be a strong push to host a national level meet.

Stadium holds over 17K fans.

MplsBison

January 31st, 2012, 09:59 AM

You're going to out-bid Texas A&M, with this facility:

http://image.cdnl3.xosnetwork.com/fls/27300/site_graphics/Facilities/indoortrack/1.jpg

(note the dedicated 55m runway, long jump, pole vault, etc.)

Oh and by the way, they have the following facility in the same building for athletes to warm up in:

http://image.cdnl3.xosnetwork.com/fls/27300/site_graphics/Facilities/McFerrinIndoor/1.jpg

Good luck.