NCAA President calls for new tier of Division I where schools can pay athletes

[ElCid]

Last two lines on point. I’ve already lost my interest in FBS. Didn’t watch one such game this year, unless you count Army-Navy, which I don’t. They are Patriot League schools in all other sports.

I watched a few only because of my dad was watching and I spend that quality time with him. He watches Syracuse so we watched them a few times. And of course Army/Navy. And a few selected FBS/FCS games. But not like I used to. Besides, I spend too much time watching our FCS games. He likes them better actually.

[ngineer]

I watched a few only because of my dad was watching and I spend that quality time with him. He watches Syracuse so we watched them a few times. And of course Army/Navy. And a few selected FBS/FCS games. But not like I used to. Besides, I spend too much time watching our FCS games. He likes them better actually.

So do I. I enjoy D-II and III more than FBS.

[Tribe4SF]

Not gonna happen - those schools are gonna keep usin’ the NCAA like the $2 hooker it is as long as they are benefiting from their conjugal relationship … and the NCAA’s 500-3500 (depending on the reference source) employees, with it’s top-heavy and overpaid Executive ranks, is gonna subjugate themselves to performing whatever degrading acts are required to keep those many, many, many $2 transactions flowing from your pocket to advertisers to content providers to the schools & to them via the NCAA.

Agreed here. The NCAA is learning from current court decisions whether it will have any control at all in the future. I think it's inevitable that they will have to recognize student-athletes at Power 4/5 schools as employees and allow collective bargaining for them. The 85-scholarship limit is already a joke as many who have transferred to P 4/5 schools have not received scholarships but get more NIL money than the cost of attendance. This was true for one of our two guys who transferred last year.

[JacksFan40]

Agreed here. The NCAA is learning from current court decisions whether it will have any control at all in the future. I think it's inevitable that they will have to recognize student-athletes at Power 4/5 schools as employees and allow collective bargaining for them. The 85-scholarship limit is already a joke as many who have transferred to P 4/5 schools have not received scholarships but get more NIL money than the cost of attendance. This was true for one of our two guys who transferred last year.

If they’re classified as employees will they still even be required to actually be students? Or are we just heading down the path of universities being a football developmental league where players aren’t actually students? At that point you could strip away the non-profit status of these universities due to them creating a sports business on the backs of what are supposed to be academic institutions.

[caribbeanhen]

I watched a few only because of my dad was watching and I spend that quality time with him. He watches Syracuse so we watched them a few times. And of course Army/Navy. And a few selected FBS/FCS games. But not like I used to. Besides, I spend too much time watching our FCS games. He likes them better actually.

I didn’t watch any

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So do I. I enjoy D-II and III more than FBS.

same

[taper]

If they’re classified as employees will they still even be required to actually be students? Or are we just heading down the path of universities being a football developmental league where players aren’t actually students? At that point you could strip away the non-profit status of these universities due to them creating a sports business on the backs of what are supposed to be academic institutions.

Non-profit status won't be revoked. The NCAA itself is non-profit, as are tons of hospitals with highly paid employees. The amount of revenue doesn't matter at all to being a non-profit, as long as it's spent towards the org's overall mission.

[Russ B]

If they’re classified as employees will they still even be required to actually be students? Or are we just heading down the path of universities being a football developmental league where players aren’t actually students? At that point you could strip away the non-profit status of these universities due to them creating a sports business on the backs of what are supposed to be academic institutions.

There are a lot of student jobs that require you to be a student while employed by the university--I drove buses for the campus bus service, for example.

(Personally, I think there should just be minor league football teams, and they can license the school logos if people want to keep cheering for certain schools.)

[Bisonoline]

If they’re classified as employees will they still even be required to actually be students? Or are we just heading down the path of universities being a football developmental league where players aren’t actually students? At that point you could strip away the non-profit status of these universities due to them creating a sports business on the backs of what are supposed to be academic institutions.

If they are considered employees then everything they get from the university will be taxable. Room board books tuition FCOA payments etc.

[taper]

If they are considered employees then everything they get from the university will be taxable. Room board books tuition FCOA payments etc.

Not true. I was a student employee at NDSU as a TA. My tuition waiver was not taxed, my cash stipend was. I had a books scholarship for awhile and that was not taxed.

[Bisonoline]

Not true. I was a student employee at NDSU as a TA. My tuition waiver was not taxed, my cash stipend was. I had a books scholarship for awhile and that was not taxed.

It will all depend on how the IRS will now characterize those benefits.

Its like when the IRS changed how businesses could write off employee moving expenses. The hospital I worked at paid for my move from Oregon to Arkansas. One pay day I didnt get a check. WTF. I go to HS and they tell me I had to pay the taxes on my move.