FCS programs are among the least subsidized in all of Division I

[bonarae]

https://x.com/novy_williams/status/1771168284768915782

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-...bsidized-bzbz/

What gives for us?

[WestCoastAggie]

Cost Containment

[DFW HOYA]

This is a misleading headline-- it compares five FCS schools that draw playoff revenue and good attendance with low(er) rates of tuition and operating expenses, but you can't extrapolate that "FCS programs are among the least subsidized in all of Division I."

Sam Herder says as much: "About 80% of G5 public schools have a subsidization of 50% or more, while nearly 20% have at least 70%. For FCS public schools, 90% have a subsidization of 50% or more, while 50% have at least 70%." Add in private schools, and the 70% threshold is even higher.

[ElCid]

This is a misleading headline-- it compares five FCS schools that draw playoff revenue and good attendance with low(er) rates of tuition and operating expenses, but you can't extrapolate that "FCS programs are among the least subsidized in all of Division I."

Sam Herder says as much: "About 80% of G5 public schools have a subsidization of 50% or more, while nearly 20% have at least 70%. For FCS public schools, 90% have a subsidization of 50% or more, while 50% have at least 70%." Add in private schools, and the 70% threshold is even higher.

As with all statistics, anyone can slice and dice numbers, use creative math, or come up with creative definitions to show what they want. Headline aside, articles like these aren't usually worth the electrons used to create them. Bottom line is no two schools are alike, so trying to compare 100s of them to one arguably arbitrary measurement is silly.

[nodak651]

Him talking about percentages when the overall budgets between FCS and FBS are so much different is kind of stupid, IMO.

[BisonFan02]

NDSU will always have to run their program as lean and unsubsidized as possible.....will never get local/state help due to the outhouse an hour north of them.

[mainejeff]

Interesting to compare CAA schools.....

Student Fee Subsidies:

Towson - $17,872,941
William & Mary - $15,805,578
UNH - $13,315,230
Stony Brook - $9,718,977
NC A&T - $9,479,012
Albany - $7,422,081
Maine - $0
Rhode Island - $0

[Professor Chaos]

Interesting to compare CAA schools.....

Student Fee Subsidies:

Towson - $17,872,941
William & Mary - $15,805,578
UNH - $13,315,230
Stony Brook - $9,718,977
NC A&T - $9,479,012
Albany - $7,422,081
Maine - $0
Rhode Island - $0

Probably just a matter of accounting - here's the "school funds" going into athletic department revenue for each of those schools:

Towson - $5,153,431
William & Mary - $1,134,287
UNH - $11,273,183
Stony Brook - $21,963,512
NC A&T - $3,291,387
Albany - $13,828,527
Maine - $19,247,506
Rhode Island - $24,593,744

[mainejeff]

Probably just a matter of accounting - here's the "school funds" going into athletic department revenue for each of those schools:

Towson - $5,153,431
William & Mary - $1,134,287
UNH - $11,273,183
Stony Brook - $21,963,512
NC A&T - $3,291,387
Albany - $13,828,527
Maine - $19,247,506
Rhode Island - $24,593,744

Maine does not charge a "student fee" to support its collegiate athletic program.....that's a fact. As a public university it absolutely receives funds from the State of Maine.

The original post with tweet focused on JMU's student subsidies.....hence the focus in my post.

[Professor Chaos]

Maine does not charge a "student fee" to support its collegiate athletic program.....that's a fact. As a public university it absolutely receives funds from the State of Maine.

The original post with tweet focused on JMU's student subsidies.....hence the focus in my post.

What I'm saying is it's pretty much the same thing whether it's earmarked as student fees of school funds. In both cases it's money going to the school's athletic department that would otherwise be going to the school to support other things. I'm pretty confident tuition is higher at Maine and Rhode Island due to that $19M and $24M, respectively, that the school is sending to subsidize the athletic department.