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Thread: 2023 National Championship: #1 South Dakota State vs #2 Montana

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    Re: 2023 National Championship: #1 South Dakota State vs #2 Montana

    Quote Originally Posted by Grizalltheway View Post
    Montana already holds that distinction, and this would not surpass 1995. Also, why aren't you bringing up the fact that SDSU barely got by MSU, a team UM crushed, and had a relatively close game against 8 seed Nova?
    This would definitely surpass 1995 in terms of upset level. The '95 title game featured #6 Montana against #5 Marshall—not much of an upset, even with the Herd at home.

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    Re: 2023 National Championship: #1 South Dakota State vs #2 Montana

    Quote Originally Posted by mvemjsunpx View Post
    This would definitely surpass 1995 in terms of upset level. The '95 title game featured #6 Montana against #5 Marshall—not much of an upset, even with the Herd at home.
    That's what I saw. Not sure how he was cyphering this.

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    Re: 2023 National Championship: #1 South Dakota State vs #2 Montana

    https://247sports.com/college/oklaho...190084343/amp/

    Would love to see this game now because a denier believed your top 20 ranking is total BS

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    Re: 2023 National Championship: #1 South Dakota State vs #2 Montana

    I read on some forum (egriz?) that McDowell has been playing with a huge throwing hands the last few games. No idea if this is true, but his game does seem different the past two weeks.

    I also agree with the above in that he has been tentative to throw and not as decisive on his running decisions. If true, 3 weeks will make a positive difference.

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    Re: 2023 National Championship: #1 South Dakota State vs #2 Montana

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    Re: 2023 National Championship: #1 South Dakota State vs #2 Montana

    Quote Originally Posted by POD Knows View Post
    This SDSU team is better than the 2013 Bison, prove me wrong, go player for player on O and D. They have advantages almost everywhere. I know it is hard to gauge but they are clearly better at the skill positions on offense, their QB is better, their RB's are better, their receivers are a hell of a lot better and they are better at TE and probably better at O line. I think the D is pretty close.
    Not going thru every position but I'd take 2013 Bison. I may be biased though...

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    Re: 2023 National Championship: #1 South Dakota State vs #2 Montana

    Quote Originally Posted by Bisonator View Post
    Not going thru every position but I'd take 2013 Bison. I may be biased though...
    It would be a great game, that Bison team had "it" but I do not think they were as strong position by position as this SDSU team is, it is a close call. I know that the 2013 absolutely destroyed everybody they played in the playoffs and Natty that year, much like SDSU is doing now (Villanova game was competitive for a while). The biggest difference between the current SDSU and NDSU teams is in the offensive skill positions. O lines are probably a wash, maybe a slight nod to NDSU, D is close, NDSU had a lot of dudes on the 2013 team.
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    Re: 2023 National Championship: #1 South Dakota State vs #2 Montana

    Quote Originally Posted by Iowagriz View Post
    I read on some forum (egriz?) that McDowell has been playing with a huge throwing hands the last few games. No idea if this is true, but his game does seem different the past two weeks.

    I also agree with the above in that he has been tentative to throw and not as decisive on his running decisions. If true, 3 weeks will make a positive difference.

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    Why would this be an issue? I thought tiny hands were more of an issue?

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    Re: 2023 National Championship: #1 South Dakota State vs #2 Montana

    Quote Originally Posted by Iowagriz View Post
    I read on some forum (egriz?) that McDowell has been playing with a huge throwing hands the last few games. No idea if this is true, but his game does seem different the past two weeks.

    I also agree with the above in that he has been tentative to throw and not as decisive on his running decisions. If true, 3 weeks will make a positive difference.

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    No idea what this "McDowell has been playing with a huge throwing hands" means....but ... anyway ...

    Prior to the Furman @ Montana game, FUBeAR inquired (and did his own research) regarding Mr. McDowell.

    FUBeAR's curiosity revolved around Mr. McDowell's statistical mediocrity (this is an objective fact; not a subjective criticism) at 3 prior colleges before his sudden ascent to such praiseworthy heights @ Montana for his play against 7 Big Sky Teams and a CAA Team w/a suspect Defense (giving up almost 40 PPG down the stretch).

    Furman and NDSU, unquestionably, have 2 of the better Defenses in FCS.

    FUBeAR knows it's an almost incomprehensible concept for us Griz fans to even consider....but, perhaps, just maybe, the level of competition Mr. McDowell has seen from a SoCon Team and an MVFC Team vs. that which he faced from those 7 Big Sky Conference opponents and that CAA Team with a suspect Defense, has negatively impacted his results.

    At least statistically, if not in fact, SDSU has, by far, the best Defense in FCS. Mr. McDowell may be, again, challenged to produce as easily as he did against those 7 Big Sky opponents and the CAA Team with the suspect Defense.
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    Re: 2023 National Championship: #1 South Dakota State vs #2 Montana

    Quote Originally Posted by FUBeAR View Post
    No idea what this "McDowell has been playing with a huge throwing hands" means....but ... anyway ...

    Prior to the Furman @ Montana game, FUBeAR inquired (and did his own research) regarding Mr. McDowell.

    FUBeAR's curiosity revolved around Mr. McDowell's statistical mediocrity (this is an objective fact; not a subjective criticism) at 3 prior colleges before his sudden ascent to such praiseworthy heights @ Montana for his play against 7 Big Sky Teams and a CAA Team w/a suspect Defense (giving up almost 40 PPG down the stretch).

    Furman and NDSU, unquestionably, have 2 of the better Defenses in FCS.

    FUBeAR knows it's an almost incomprehensible concept for us Griz fans to even consider....but, perhaps, just maybe, the level of competition Mr. McDowell has seen from a SoCon Team and an MVFC Team vs. that which he faced from those 7 Big Sky Conference opponents and that CAA Team with a suspect Defense, has negatively impacted his results.

    At least statistically, if not in fact, SDSU has, by far, the best Defense in FCS. Mr. McDowell may be, again, challenged to produce as easily as he did against those 7 Big Sky opponents and the CAA Team with the suspect Defense.
    11-0 as a starter and playing for a national title. Perfectly happy with those results.
    And I think he means busted up hand, according to the article posted on eGriz.
    Last edited by Grizalltheway; December 19th, 2023 at 10:21 AM.

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