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    Re: Pro Day Results- Charlie Volker Princeton RB 40 Time debate settled

    Quote Originally Posted by CenMEBlackBearFan View Post
    This is a link to Hero sports who took FCS school's proday's and compared a bunch of times and results. I have no idea if every school is in this or not. If you scroll to the bottom you can check other position players.

    https://herosports.com/nfl/draft-2019-f ... TwjOTYWuko
    I've been on the DE QBell train since he was switched from O to D last fall. I, along w/ many others, hoped he excelled offensively at WR but it never came to fruition.

    He's putting up skill position type #s because he's been a skill position player for a duration. His calling naturally became defense due to his inability to catch passes at a respectable rate. I'm not shocked to see his 40 time & running performance because he was a respected T&F sprinter.
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    Re: Pro Day Results- Charlie Volker Princeton RB 40 Time debate settled

    If you guys can be patient I should have all of the FCS pro day results by the middle of next week. I'll post in a spreadsheet on here that is not missing anyone legit and has all schools. I also will have what numbers NFL teams are using and not what agents are giving to the media. Just ask you be patient. This is taking me a while to collect but I'm getting all the sheets. So far I'm just missing Bethune, SDSU, NDSU, EWU, and PVAMU and maybe 1 or 2 more.

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    Re: Pro Day Results- Charlie Volker Princeton RB 40 Time debate settled

    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoastAggie View Post
    In your opinion, who do you think messed up the FAMU Pro Day?
    Where would you place the blame? FAMU usually has a pro day but they are a FCS school without prospects so no team went. They did not have a player on any lists thus no reason to go. They have had them in the past. Hopefully the agents of those kids got them in other school pro days. NFL teams go where they believe there are prospects and thus they don't believe FAMU has any prospects.

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    Re: Pro Day Results- Charlie Volker Princeton RB 40 Time debate settled

    Quote Originally Posted by smallcollegefbfan View Post
    If you guys can be patient I should have all of the FCS pro day results by the middle of next week. I'll post in a spreadsheet on here that is not missing anyone legit and has all schools. I also will have what numbers NFL teams are using and not what agents are giving to the media. Just ask you be patient. This is taking me a while to collect but I'm getting all the sheets. So far I'm just missing Bethune, SDSU, NDSU, EWU, and PVAMU and maybe 1 or 2 more.
    Will this info include FCS Players that participated in non-FCS schools’ pro-days?
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    Re: Pro Day Results- Charlie Volker Princeton RB 40 Time debate settled

    Quote Originally Posted by smallcollegefbfan View Post
    If you guys can be patient I should have all of the FCS pro day results by the middle of next week. I'll post in a spreadsheet on here that is not missing anyone legit and has all schools. I also will have what numbers NFL teams are using and not what agents are giving to the media. Just ask you be patient. This is taking me a while to collect but I'm getting all the sheets. So far I'm just missing Bethune, SDSU, NDSU, EWU, and PVAMU and maybe 1 or 2 more.
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    Re: Pro Day Results- Charlie Volker Princeton RB 40 Time debate settled

    Sterling Sheffield who was our all everything LB had a very good pro day plus this 2018 highlights weren't bad either- https://t.co/QEGatzcdZf

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    Re: Pro Day Results- Charlie Volker Princeton RB 40 Time debate settled

    Quote Originally Posted by Redbird 4th & short View Post
    The analysis on his stride and height versus his top end speed was dead on. Note, he had a very good 10 yard split from his forty ... not just good, but very very good .. granted hand held. But his forty time as a mutiple of his 10 yard split is not strogn at all. Also had a good 20 yd shuttle and vertical. Anyway, great acceleration and quicks, but his top end speed is nothing special.

    Edit: adding this link and giving props to formerpoke for his deadon analysis on this stride and physical attributes

    https://www.strengthcoach.com/public/1744.cfm
    another article withmore insights .. basically. anyone running the 1st 10 at 1.5 level, should be running the last 30 in 3.0 or less. Again, the 1.5 is very very good (think explosion/burst), but the athletes with top end speed requires the last 30 to be under 3.0 obviuosly .. so the 1.50 + 3.0 -s solid 4.5. Guys who run 4.4 and sub 4.4 are the ones really flying for the last 30 or 20 ... breakwy speed. Volcker is great athlete be he appears to be topped out due to his stride limits per formerpoke.

    http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/...sessment1.html

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    Re: Pro Day Results- Charlie Volker Princeton RB 40 Time debate settled

    Interesting. Thought I saw this posted on here before but never looked at it:

    The breakdown of FCS draft picks by school in the 2010s:
    7 - Appalachian State and Montana
    6 - South Carolina State
    5 - Central Arkansas, Eastern Washington and William & Mary
    4 - Chattanooga, Coastal Carolina, Illinois State, Maine, North Dakota State, Samford and Tennessee State
    3 - Delaware, Eastern Illinois, Georgia Southern, James Madison, Northern Iowa, Princeton, Richmond, Southern Illinois, Southern Utah and Villanova
    2 - Florida A&M, Fordham, Harvard, Jacksonville State, Missouri State, Montana State, Murray State, North Carolina A&T, Northwestern State, Portland State, Sam Houston State, South Dakota, South Dakota State, Southeastern Louisiana, Stephen F. Austin, Towson, The Citadel, Weber State, Yale and Youngstown State
    1 - Alabama A&M, Alabama State, Arkansas-Pine Bluff, Brown, Bucknell, Cal Poly, Cornell, Delaware State, Drake, Eastern Kentucky, Elon, Furman, Georgia State, Grambling State, Hampton, Lamar, Lehigh, Liberty, Marist, Massachusetts, Monmouth, New Hampshire, North Carolina Central, Penn, Presbyterian, San Diego, Southeast Missouri, Texas Southern, UT Martin, Wagner and Western Carolina

    http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.as...03423356631704
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    Re: Pro Day Results- Charlie Volker Princeton RB 40 Time debate settled

    Quote Originally Posted by Redbird 4th & short View Post
    another article withmore insights .. basically. anyone running the 1st 10 at 1.5 level, should be running the last 30 in 3.0 or less. Again, the 1.5 is very very good (think explosion/burst), but the athletes with top end speed requires the last 30 to be under 3.0 obviuosly .. so the 1.50 + 3.0 -s solid 4.5. Guys who run 4.4 and sub 4.4 are the ones really flying for the last 30 or 20 ... breakwy speed. Volcker is great athlete be he appears to be topped out due to his stride limits per formerpoke.

    http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/...sessment1.html
    one last post (I promise) to beat this topic to death ... Usain Bolt was clocked as the fastest human ever. But even that statement has to be qualified. Below shows the 100m splits in 10m increments ... so it is not yards, but meters are about 10% longer than yards .. so adjust for that in your head.

    Look at Bolt's 1st 10m ... pretty below average ... that might translate to at best 1.65 seconds for 10 yards. But then look at his next 30m ... the 1.85 for 10m and the 4.65 for th first 40m .. that means he ran the next 30m in 2.8 seconds ... which might be closer to 2.6 if it were 30 yards (not meters). Not done even yet ... Bolt is fastest human ever, but does NOT reach his peak speed until the 50 to 80 meter range, with 60 to 70 being his peak speed and when he ran the fastes 27.8 mph ever recorded.

    So to put this whole breakaway speed and stride thing in perspective, here is difference between Volcker and Bolt, using my rough conversion to yards for Bolt:

    - First 10 yards: Volker 1.51 seconds, Bolt 1.65 seconds .. Volker has comfortable lead
    - Next 30 yards: Volker 3.05, Bolt 2.65 or better ... Bolt pulls way easily
    - Total 40 yards: Volker 4.56, Bolt 4.30 ... this is breakway speed, and he's not done accelerating. This is what makes Bolt a freak and fastest ever .. his stride .. and you;ll notice he always is coming from behind the pack the first 50 yards before he pulls away.

    Again, Volckers first 10 yards is very very good, but his breakway speed is average. Having seen these measurables, he might get a long look at Slot Receiver .. or maybe move to safety ?



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    Re: Pro Day Results- Charlie Volker Princeton RB 40 Time debate settled

    Quote Originally Posted by Redbird 4th & short View Post
    one last post (I promise) to beat this topic to death ... Usain Bolt was clocked as the fastest human ever. But even that statement has to be qualified. Below shows the 100m splits in 10m increments ... so it is not yards, but meters are about 10% longer than yards .. so adjust for that in your head.

    Look at Bolt's 1st 10m ... pretty below average ... that might translate to at best 1.65 seconds for 10 yards. But then look at his next 30m ... the 1.85 for 10m and the 4.65 for th first 40m .. that means he ran the next 30m in 2.8 seconds ... which might be closer to 2.6 if it were 30 yards (not meters). Not done even yet ... Bolt is fastest human ever, but does NOT reach his peak speed until the 50 to 80 meter range, with 60 to 70 being his peak speed and when he ran the fastes 27.8 mph ever recorded.

    So to put this whole breakaway speed and stride thing in perspective, here is difference between Volcker and Bolt, using my rough conversion to yards for Bolt:

    - First 10 yards: Volker 1.51 seconds, Bolt 1.65 seconds .. Volker has comfortable lead
    - Next 30 yards: Volker 3.05, Bolt 2.65 or better ... Bolt pulls way easily
    - Total 40 yards: Volker 4.56, Bolt 4.30 ... this is breakway speed, and he's not done accelerating. This is what makes Bolt a freak and fastest ever .. his stride .. and you;ll notice he always is coming from behind the pack the first 50 yards before he pulls away.

    Again, Volckers first 10 yards is very very good, but his breakway speed is average. Having seen these measurables, he might get a long look at Slot Receiver .. or maybe move to safety ?


    That's also what made watching him so fun. Bolt was always losing the 100 in the first 25M and then it was see you later!

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