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    Re: Boring.....just go FBS already

    These threads are boring

    When will people learn? Iím going with never
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    Re: Boring.....just go FBS already

    Quote Originally Posted by Sader87 View Post
    There are really only a handful of FCS/1-AA programs in the Midwest....and kids, to your credit, are drawn to a winning program like NDSU.

    Again....I'm not saying you guys are doing things wrong....just that you're at the wrong level of football.
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    Re: Boring.....just go FBS already

    Saying this run by NDSU is boring, is like saying Tiger Woods made golf boring. The run ended for Tiger, and other players got better when he returned.

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    Re: Boring.....just go FBS already

    Quote Originally Posted by Gil Dobie View Post
    Saying this run by NDSU is boring, is like saying Tiger Woods made golf boring. The run ended for Tiger, and other players got better when he returned.
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    Re: Boring.....just go FBS already

    Quote Originally Posted by cx500d View Post
    Aren't you the one that says you don't care about the FCS championship anyways? All you care about is getting on the Ivy schedule



    like others have said, time for the rest of FCS to improve......yet fewer kids are playing HS football, based on something I saw on ESPN last Summer.....

    NDSU would beat Princeton by 30.....
    1-AA is tops!!

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    Re: Boring.....just go FBS already

    As the pool of available players to recruits out of HS shrinks, the gulf between teams like NDSU vs most other FCS teams will get wider going into the 2020's.

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    Re: Boring.....just go FBS already

    Quote Originally Posted by Gil Dobie View Post
    Saying this run by NDSU is boring, is like saying Tiger Woods made golf boring. The run ended for Tiger, and other players got better when he returned.
    Agreed ... I get OP's point, but I don't want NDSU to leave MVFC (or FCS). They have raised the bar for MVFC .. I've posted playoff results (sans NDSU) since 2011 that convincingly prove that point that "the Wings" have performed better in playoffs than any other conference since 2011 ... better than CAA and Big Sky ... like .650 versus .500 better, exluding NDSU.

    But I'm not so sure their model and system would work at P5 level like it does at FCS level. Sure they typically beat an FBS team ranked somewhere between 20-50 every year. But that is one game early in the season .. "trap game", if you will. Imagine if they were a P5 team, putting aside their venue limitations", who got scouted more regularly and had to now play 11 FBS games. That is a whole different grind AND and whole different game, just in term of physical skill levels and style of game putting playmakers in space. That is not NDSU's game .. and they would eventually have to adapt to that.

    So that leaves them at G5 level IMO .. and why would they do that ? It is only marginally better than the FCS top 20 or MVFC top 5. So they would do what each year in G5 .... compete for some weak G5 conference title anf then go from 1 irrelevant bowl game to another each year. I just don't see how the G5 bowl series is better than FCS playoffs ... by better, I mean more rewarding. NDSU gets 3 more home games ($$$) and a trip to Frisco for "true Natty".

    I wouldn't take that trade if i were them .. P5 is not realistic, and G5 is not worth it, for them .. might be for others.

    So I'm glad they are FCS and MVFC. But I also don't believe they would realistically be better off by trying to make a jump. I hope they stay and that my ISUr are the next team to knock them off the mantle (ala JMU) .. we return a lot next year, and we're trying to beat them, not get rid of them.

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    Re: Boring.....just go FBS already

    Also, NDSU being in frisco has helped keep the game there. While EWU brought a great contingent, had it been a EWU vs SDSU game, the stadium would be half empty.

    Raise yourselves up to NDSU’s talent level, and grow your fan base/retain alumni with it.
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    Re: Boring.....just go FBS already

    I agree and disagree. Boring yes as we all know who next years winner is already. Should they move no, the rest of us need to improve. It will all work all at some point in the future.
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    Re: Boring.....just go FBS already

    Quote Originally Posted by Cocky View Post
    I agree and disagree. Boring yes as we all know who next years winner is already. Should they move no, the rest of us need to improve. It will all work all at some point in the future.
    The 19 team is going to be a lot like the 14/16 teams. This 19 team will have to replace 24 seniors, whom, most of which were vital pieces to the Bison success. If there is a team that is going to sneak one in, this would be the year it happens. I will say this, should that 19 team win, that 20 team will be dominant as hell with the 21/22 teams potentially rivaling the 13 and 18 teams.

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