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    Re: Boring.....just go FBS already

    Quote Originally Posted by Sader87 View Post
    You could probably go MAC tomorrow....I understand, you're nevah going to be B1G or Big 12 probably for a variety of reasons....but you have to admit, it's kind of a joke that you guys are still FCS.
    Why would the MAC want a team way out of their footprint???

    I agree it's a joke, or geography...

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    Re: Boring.....just go FBS already

    Quote Originally Posted by Sader87 View Post
    I am...but that goes to my point basically...the FCS-level exists for a reason....it's not a level that you want to dominate like an Alabama, Clemson et. al.....it's very good football but it has its place in college athletics

    If you don't care about the FCS, and all you care about is some sort of pity table scrap affirmation from the Ivies, why do you care about this?

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    Re: Boring.....just go FBS already

    Quote Originally Posted by Sader87 View Post
    It's ridiculously boring....NDSU is basically operating at an FBS-level now and essentially has no real competition at this level. Congrats but you guys should be playing at a higher level...it's maddeningly obvious.
    Of course they do...just not in the Northeast.
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    Re: Boring.....just go FBS already

    The FCS could and should be a good level.....nothing against NDSU, but you are basically running an FBS-level program at the FCS-level....it is what it is. Congrats on your success but you are a basically an FBS program beating up on FCS teams....

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    Re: Boring.....just go FBS already

    There's nothing stopping anyone else from competing with NDSU--it's not like they are in the epicenter of college football talent.
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    Re: Boring.....just go FBS already

    They have a lot of advantages (that other schools have admittedly)....easy admissions, no real FCS recruiting competition in their area, state funding, only show in town etc etc.....again, nothing against them...but NDSU really is an outlier in the FCS world....it's no wonder they dominate at this level.

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    Re: Boring.....just go FBS already

    Does any FBS conference really want NDSU?
    NDSU doesn't have the stadium or the market for P5 - they currently have UCF, Memphis and Houston available if needed.
    FBS currently has no football-only conferences like the MVFC, CAA football, Big South football, or Pioneer; so a G5 bid would be all sports only, and few AD's want to fly their tennis and volleyball teams to North Dakota. NDSU is a geographic outlier for all G5 conferences - and what G5 conference members want to add another "L" to their schedule?
    If the Bison went independent, they could play Liberty and NMSU twice a year, but who wants to do that?
    Unless the long-discussed realignment of the G5 and top FCS teams actually occurs (it has been discussed for 20 years), NDSU is in FCS for the foreseeable future and someone just needs to step up and knock them down.

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    Re: Boring.....just go FBS already

    Quote Originally Posted by DFW HOYA View Post
    There's nothing stopping anyone else from competing with NDSU--it's not like they are in the epicenter of college football talent.
    How could a state with less people than one of your suburbs be the epicenter of football talent?

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    Re: Boring.....just go FBS already

    Quote Originally Posted by cx500d View Post
    How could a state with less people than one of your suburbs be the epicenter of football talent?
    There are really only a handful of FCS/1-AA programs in the Midwest....and kids, to your credit, are drawn to a winning program like NDSU.

    Again....I'm not saying you guys are doing things wrong....just that you're at the wrong level of football.

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    Re: Boring.....just go FBS already

    Quote Originally Posted by DFW HOYA View Post
    There's nothing stopping anyone else from competing with NDSU--it's not like they are in the epicenter of college football talent.
    They are also aided by teams that have already transitioned to the FBS.

    Just my opinion, but I think it far less likely that NDSU has 7 titles if App State and GSU are still hanging around. Almost certainly those programs would have met in the post season a number of times the past few years.
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