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    Legit question - Can Furman possibly make playoffs at 6-4 ?

    Hear me out

    I do think IF IF. IF Furman WINS OUT the committee has a tough choice based on weather

    Furman went 7-4 last year w the same opponents. And got in the playoffs at 7-4
    so that's a fact we know.

    IF WE WIN OUT. IF. That would be 6-4 this year with the missing Colgate game lost to hurricane ... who can say what would have happened ? Does the committee punish us for weather (and it was Colgate who backed out by the way.. Furman was offering free tickets to anyone who evacuated from the coast then Colgate announced the game was off a few hours later).

    And Furman 6-4 this year has a more signature win than 7-4 Furman last year. We beat top 5/10 Wofford by 20. And today we beat top 30 Chattanooga ... Last year several people said 'but you didn't beat any top 30 / quality teams. '. Well this year we have. TWO now - one a top ten team in Wofford. So we did the same as last year except we have two much better wins.

    We we were just denied a game because of the weather

    1). Do you punish a team for the other team cancelling the game / weather ?
    2). And this a Furman team who did the same as last year except with BETTER QUALITY WINS

    For the hypothetical:

    2017 playoff Furman. 7-4. Xxxxxxxx 2018 Furman. Xxx. Bold if different
    NC State Loss. Xxxxxxxx Clemson Loss
    Elon. Loss. Xxxxxxx. Elon. Loss
    Samford. Loss Xxxxxxxx. Samford. Loss
    Wofford Loss. Xxxxxxxx. Wofford. WIN
    ETSU. Win. Xxxxxxxx ETSU. Loss (MUCH BETTER ETSU THIS YEAR -lead SoCon)
    Citadel. Win xxxx. Citadel. Win
    Western. Win. Xxxxxx. Western. Win
    Chattanooga. Win. Xxxxxxxx. Chattanooga. Win (MUCH BETTER UTC THIS YEAR)
    Mercer. Win. Xxxxxxx. Mercer. Win
    VMI. Win. Xxxxxxx. VMI. Win

    [ Colgate. Win. Xxxxxxxx. Colgate cancelled the game]

    I guess a further point in Furmans favor would be the committee says they look at how you finished. Last year we won 7 of last 8 and got in... This hypothesis includes winning 6 of last 7 games !

    does Furman have a shot at 6-4? Really asking.

    Also, what if Furman finishes 2nd in SoCon at 6-2 conference record but Wofford is 3rd or 4th also at 6-2 conference record but we are 6-4 and they are 8-3 but we beat them head to head by 20? But Furman played Clemson and Elon and tried for Colgate ...while Wofford played Wyoming and Gardner Webb and Presbyterian.

    Honestly interested in hearing your thoughts ..!

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    Re: Legit question - Can Furman possibly make playoffs at 6-4 ?

    I think they should be in and play Colgate in the opening round. How disgraceful for a team to chicken out of a game since they thought they'd lose and spoil a good season. The game should be played in SC.

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    Re: Legit question - Can Furman possibly make playoffs at 6-4 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kramden View Post
    I think they should be in and play Colgate in the opening round.
    I am 100% fine with that !

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    Re: Legit question - Can Furman possibly make playoffs at 6-4 ?

    Whether or not Colgate wanted to reschedule the game will have no bearing on the committee come playoff time.

    I look at the Furman schedule and see 1 good win (Wofford) the rest are meh.

    Dewey

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    Re: Legit question - Can Furman possibly make playoffs at 6-4 ?

    There are a ton of teams in the 10-30 range this year. Furman needed ETSU to lose so they had a chance at the SoCon auto bid.

    Do they have a chance with 6 wins? Sure, since the Southland doesn’t want any extra bids, the Valley is eliminating each other, and the SoCon is a circular logic mess. Is it a good shot? No, but it has nothing to do with the cancelled game.

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    Re: Legit question - Can Furman possibly make playoffs at 6-4 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by gofurman View Post
    Hear me out

    I do think IF IF. IF Furman WINS OUT the committee has a tough choice based on weather

    Furman went 7-4 last year w the same opponents. And got in the playoffs at 7-4
    so that's a fact we know.

    IF WE WIN OUT. IF. That would be 6-4 this year with the missing Colgate game lost to hurricane ... who can say what would have happened ? Does the committee punish us for weather (and it was Colgate who backed out by the way.. Furman was offering free tickets to anyone who evacuated from the coast then Colgate announced the game was off a few hours later).

    And Furman 6-4 this year has a more signature win than 7-4 Furman last year. We beat top 5/10 Wofford by 20. And today we beat top 30 Chattanooga ... Last year several people said 'but you didn't beat any top 30 / quality teams. '. Well this year we have. TWO now - one a top ten team in Wofford. So we did the same as last year except we have two much better wins.

    We we were just denied a game because of the weather

    1). Do you punish a team for the other team cancelling the game / weather ?
    2). And this a Furman team who did the same as last year except with BETTER QUALITY WINS

    For the hypothetical:

    2017 playoff Furman. 7-4. Xxxxxxxx 2018 Furman. Xxx. Bold if different
    NC State Loss. Xxxxxxxx Clemson Loss
    Elon. Loss. Xxxxxxx. Elon. Loss
    Samford. Loss Xxxxxxxx. Samford. Loss
    Wofford Loss. Xxxxxxxx. Wofford. WIN
    ETSU. Win. Xxxxxxxx ETSU. Loss (MUCH BETTER ETSU THIS YEAR -lead SoCon)
    Citadel. Win xxxx. Citadel. Win
    Western. Win. Xxxxxx. Western. Win
    Chattanooga. Win. Xxxxxxxx. Chattanooga. Win (MUCH BETTER UTC THIS YEAR)
    Mercer. Win. Xxxxxxx. Mercer. Win
    VMI. Win. Xxxxxxx. VMI. Win

    [ Colgate. Win. Xxxxxxxx. Colgate cancelled the game]

    I guess a further point in Furmans favor would be the committee says they look at how you finished. Last year we won 7 of last 8 and got in... This hypothesis includes winning 6 of last 7 games !

    does Furman have a shot at 6-4? Really asking.

    Also, what if Furman finishes 2nd in SoCon at 6-2 conference record but Wofford is 3rd or 4th also at 6-2 conference record but we are 6-4 and they are 8-3 but we beat them head to head by 20? But Furman played Clemson and Elon and tried for Colgate ...while Wofford played Wyoming and Gardner Webb and Presbyterian.

    Honestly interested in hearing your thoughts ..!
    You better have proof of this. There was absolutely no mention of "Colgate backing out" until about two days ago. Now it's picking up legs imo to play to a certain narrative.
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    Re: Legit question - Can Furman possibly make playoffs at 6-4 ?

    Absolutely not

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    Re: Legit question - Can Furman possibly make playoffs at 6-4 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kramden View Post
    I think they should be in and play Colgate in the opening round. How disgraceful for a team to chicken out of a game since they thought they'd lose and spoil a good season. The game should be played in SC.
    It would have made no difference if they played and lost! They aren't going to beat Army barring a miracle so an undefeated season was never in the cards. What the hell is the difference between 9-2 or 9-1 in the grand of scheme things? This is easily the best Colgate team since 2003. Much better than last year's edition that went 7-4.
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    Re: Legit question - Can Furman possibly make playoffs at 6-4 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Go Lehigh TU owl View Post
    It would have made no difference if they played and lost! They aren't going to beat Army barring a miracle so an undefeated season was never in the cards. What the hell is the difference between 9-2 or 9-1 in the grand of scheme things? This is easily the best Colgate team since 2003. Much better than last year's edition that went 7-4.
    Colgate would have dump trucked Furman.

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    Re: Legit question - Can Furman possibly make playoffs at 6-4 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kramden View Post
    I think they should be in and play Colgate in the opening round. How disgraceful for a team to chicken out of a game since they thought they'd lose and spoil a good season. The game should be played in SC.
    Yes we are in play for the autobid and/or at large bid

    Ill even go to Colgate!!!! Bring it on Colgate!!!!

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