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    Re: Southern Conference Week 11 Power Rankings/Pick 'Em

    Quote Originally Posted by youngterrier View Post
    To put things in perspective on Wofford's passing: the most we'd thrown for in a season was 182 times in 2007. Last year was second with 157. We've already thrown the ball about 135 times. If we play 13 games like we did in those seasons, we will probably eclipse those numbers.

    The kicker is, we will likely finish the season with a completion percentage 10% higher (or so) than either of those seasons. That's mainly because we throw it more (IMO creates better chemistry between QB and RB) but also because we're throwing it shorter and with quicker routes that have a higher chance of being completion. It also looks like we're recruiting QBs that are more balanced and not just option guys in the future.

    Wofford football in 2019 and beyond is going to look different.

    I fully expected Wofford to not do as well this year due to the coaching change. But it appears he has tread softly so far.

    Our numbers passing are fairly steady:

    Year att/yrds games record
    2018 - 94/723 - 8 gms 3-5
    2017 - 139/1042 - 11 gms 5-6
    2016 - 126/820 - 12 gms 10-2
    2015 - 108/964 - 13 gms 9-4
    2014 - 147/958 - 12 gms 5-7
    2013 - 153/1001 - 12 gms 5-7
    2012 - 117/900 - 11 gms 7-4

    That averages out to 11.3 attempts per game. And 82 yards a game. We are slightly above that so far this year but have Alafreakenbama yet so we will probably be close to par.

    The thing that stands out to me in our numbers is you can tell when we are running well, and winning, and when we actually need to pass. Our best years 7-4, 9-4 and 10-2 are our lowest pass attempt numbers, although this year may be close. The highest attempt are the years with losing records. Kind of makes us predictable huh?
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    Re: Southern Conference Week 11 Power Rankings/Pick 'Em

    Quote Originally Posted by PaladinFan View Post
    The 31 and 32 counter-trap was a staple of the old high school offense. The ball carrier was almost always the fullback out of the I, though.

    I think plays like this are why some seem to think Furman is an "option team." It looks like an option, but it isn't.

    If Furman's version is anything like the one I learned, you are hoping for just enough action in the backfield to get the linebacker to make a false step on what he thinks he sees. You can see that on the Watkins run, the MLB starts attacking the QB option which doesn't exist. By the time he realizes he made the wrong read, Watkins is past him.
    Did you see the PassPro influence by the RG before he goes out to block the OLB on the Watkins run?

    So slick - that pulls the DLman deeper upfield thinking he’s gonna rush the passer (those Chatt dudes love stats) and sets him up to have his timepiece bathed by the Trapping OG.

    Our good UFFP friend, sluggo, at 5’11” 260; quick as a cat, strong as an ox, and mean as a snake - used to DESTROY DLmen on this play. He made them regret their foolish decisions to play DLine...or, really to play Football altogether. I saw a couple of them asking their Band Directors, after the game, if he had any available scholarships!
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    Re: Southern Conference Week 11 Power Rankings/Pick 'Em

    Quote Originally Posted by ElCid View Post
    I fully expected Wofford to not do as well this year due to the coaching change. But it appears he has tread softly so far.

    Our numbers passing are fairly steady:

    Year att/yrds games record
    2018 - 94/723 - 8 gms 3-5
    2017 - 139/1042 - 11 gms 5-6
    2016 - 126/820 - 12 gms 10-2
    2015 - 108/964 - 13 gms 9-4
    2014 - 147/958 - 12 gms 5-7
    2013 - 153/1001 - 12 gms 5-7
    2012 - 117/900 - 11 gms 7-4

    That averages out to 11.3 attempts per game. And 82 yards a game. We are slightly above that so far this year but have Alafreakenbama yet so we will probably be close to par.

    The thing that stands out to me in our numbers is you can tell when we are running well, and winning, and when we actually need to pass. Our best years 7-4, 9-4 and 10-2 are our lowest pass attempt numbers, although this year may be close. The highest attempt are the years with losing records. Kind of makes us predictable huh?
    See, Wofford is different. Even though this year is shaping up differently than past years, there seems to be a correlation with passing the ball well and good offensive numbers.

    The worst Wofford team to make the playoffs was probably the 2012 team. Yes, we had Eric Breteinstein who ran for 2000 yards in 13 games. But that was literally it. We threw it for less times for less completions and less yards (less than 600 for the year I think). I think the rest of our running backs had less than 1000 yards between them.

    Because Wofford runs an offense that's as much spread as it is option, passing the ball is important to our success. For some reason our OC hadn't thought of that between 2012 and 2016 or so.

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    Re: Southern Conference Week 11 Power Rankings/Pick 'Em

    Quote Originally Posted by FUBeAR View Post
    Did you see the PassPro influence by the RG before he goes out to block the OLB on the Watkins run?

    So slick - that pulls the DLman deeper upfield thinking he’s gonna rush the passer (those Chatt dudes love stats) and sets him up to have his timepiece bathed by the Trapping OG.

    Our good UFFP friend, sluggo, at 5’11” 260; quick as a cat, strong as an ox, and mean as a snake - used to DESTROY DLmen on this play. He made them regret their foolish decisions to play DLine...or, really to play Football altogether. I saw a couple of them asking their Band Directors, after the game, if he had any available scholarships!
    I had not noticed it, but a nifty move. Also an interesting path taken by the TE, who seems to fake a route out to the flat before leveling off to throw a block.

    As you note, there's a lot of window dressing to disguise what is otherwise a pretty simple play.

    I am anxious to see what some of these play designs look like with juniors and seniors running them instead of freshmen and sophomores.
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    Re: Southern Conference Week 11 Power Rankings/Pick 'Em

    Quote Originally Posted by PaladinFan View Post
    Clay Hendrix has been, in my view, a little unorthodox in his OL use. He rotates offensive linemen like a lot of teams rotate receivers and running backs.

    I think the goal is to keep guys fresh and maybe protect some guys that are a little gimpy. I think the only guy who wasn't routinely rotating against UTC was C Cole Neely.
    If it's one thing I'll trust Hendrix to improve it's OL. That is his forte and why Air Force hired him (sorta like our Fisher DeBerry or whatnot)... even when AF promoted him to associate HC they kept him listed at "associate HC / OL

    It will take 2 or 3 years for all of that to take as he wants a different style of OL player.. more athletic... not quite as big (in my opinion) - so right now only one guy Neely is Hendrix guy on the OL and one other walk-on McKinney at Guard is playing.. the other 7 or so are from Fowler and some are quite good but it may be different in 2/3 years when they have Hendrix training AND are guys he recruited for his style.. could easily take 3/4 years. he has a big OL class this year. But that's just OL. other positions should be one or two years from fruition - roles where a sophomore can play. OL really takes two years of weight lifting etc and a redshirt

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    Re: Southern Conference Week 11 Power Rankings/Pick 'Em

    Our games with Citadel usually seem to be close nearly every year, with this one being at their place I would expect it to most likely come down to the wire

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    Re: Southern Conference Week 11 Power Rankings/Pick 'Em

    Quote Originally Posted by SU FAN View Post
    Our games with Citadel usually seem to be close nearly every year, with this one being at their place I would expect it to most likely come down to the wire
    My concern would normally have been whether the Citadel, with little to play for, would keep the fight hot later in the season. They seemed to answer the bell against WCU.

    Home underdogs looking to play spoiler can be dangerous.
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    Re: Southern Conference Week 11 Power Rankings/Pick 'Em

    Quote Originally Posted by PaladinFan View Post
    My concern would normally have been whether the Citadel, with little to play for, would keep the fight hot later in the season. They seemed to answer the bell against WCU.

    Home underdogs looking to play spoiler can be dangerous.
    That true, and I believe it is their Homecoming. Still IF we play our best, Samford wins.

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    Re: Southern Conference Week 11 Pick 'Em

    Mercer 21 @ UTC 26
    Furman 34 @ VMI 31
    Samford 35 @ The Citadel 24
    Wofford 31 @ Western Carolina 21
    1-AA is tops!!

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    Re: Southern Conference Week 11 Power Rankings/Pick 'Em

    1. Wofford
    2. Samford
    3. ETSU
    4. Furman
    5. Chattanooga
    6. Mercer
    7. The Citadel
    8. Western Carolina
    9. VMI

    Mercer @ Chattanooga - 28-17
    Furman @ VMI - 41-21
    Samford @ The Citadel - 35-24
    Wofford @ Western Carolina - 42-28

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