Page 2 of 15 FirstFirst 123412 ... LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 149
  1. #11
    FCS Master Milktruck74's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    A Moc in Buc land....Johnson City TN
    Posts
    2,220

    Re: Big Sky or SoCon? Which Conference is Better Positioned for 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoastAggie View Post
    In the eyes of voters, the Big Sky is ahead of the SoCon. To me, they're on equal footing.

    61% SoCon Right now.
    I STILL HATE MARSHALL!​ Every time I see that movie, I root for Xavier!!!!!!!

  2. #12
    FCS Master Milktruck74's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    A Moc in Buc land....Johnson City TN
    Posts
    2,220

    Re: Big Sky or SoCon? Which Conference is Better Positioned for 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by PaladinNation View Post
    I have only a passing knowledge of EWU and Weber… I will say Weber impressed.
    I did watch some of the butt-whooping NAU received at the hands of San Diego, I wasn't impressed.

    I would put the SoCon into three buckets

    top three
    Samford — potential top 5 team needs to show up in the playoffs and get a few wins.
    Furman — still a young team but excellent coaching and influx of athletic physical talent.
    Mercer — this could be the year that Mercer gets to the playoffs.

    question marks
    Wofford — Ayers was a legend, how will the new regime navigate a tough SoCon road schedule?
    Chattanooga — Talent everywhere, but something was amiss in Arth's first season.
    Western — Talent everywhere, maybe too dependent on Adams.

    dark horses
    The Citadel — Have the talent, can be a scheme matchup nightmare.
    ETSU — You can't sleep on the Bucs, new coach lots of talent.

    When I break the SoCon teams down this way — the SoCon has eight teams that have a ton of talent, anything could happen in 2018 and not surprise me. The weak link is VMI. I know they have to be included here but they have a long way to go. Speaking of elite teams — the SoCon needs to soon get a team as far as the semis to be included in those conversations again. I see only one realistic SoCon candidate this year — SAMFORD. And the DOGS better get it done this season.

    I expect the DINS to take another step this season but FURMAN is still rebuilding — my hope is by 2020 Furman will be able to compete at or near the elite level again.

    Would love to see a similar breakdown of the Big Sky.
    These three teams will basically determine the value of the SoCon. If they emerge and win the ones they are suppose to, and win some OOC games....the conference will look good....if not, we will probably be a 2 bid league in November.
    I STILL HATE MARSHALL!​ Every time I see that movie, I root for Xavier!!!!!!!

  3. #13
    Master FCS Advocate VandalBasher's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2017
    Location
    Seattle, WA
    Posts
    371

    Re: Big Sky or SoCon? Which Conference is Better Positioned for 2018?

    Southern Opponent Breakdown
    6 vs. Big South
    2 vs. Colonial
    1 vs. Ivy
    2 vs. Ohio Valley
    1 vs. Patriot
    1 vs. Pioneer
    10 vs. FBS
    4 vs. Lower Class Opponents (Div-II, Div-III or NAIA)

    Big Sky Opponent Breakdown
    6 vs. Big Sky, these games come from three head-to-head match-ups
    1 vs. Ivy
    8 vs. Missouri Valley
    1 vs. Northeast
    2 vs. Pioneer
    2 vs. Southland
    1 vs. Southwestern
    1 vs. FCS Independent
    15 vs. FBS
    5 vs. Lower Class Opponents (Div-II, Div-III or NAIA)

  4. #14
    Master FCS Advocate UpstateBison's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Location
    Spartanburg, SC
    Posts
    390

    Re: Big Sky or SoCon? Which Conference is Better Positioned for 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by youcanbankit View Post
    The Socon edges out the Big sky. More NFL players, more coaches who have played, coached and or won at the national championship level in different divisions, and over all more size and speed. Its a close one, but the Socon edges the Big Sky.
    So when is the SoCon going to have a team make it to the Semi’s?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    No good story starts with I was sober......

  5. #15
    FCS Master Milktruck74's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    A Moc in Buc land....Johnson City TN
    Posts
    2,220

    Re: Big Sky or SoCon? Which Conference is Better Positioned for 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by VandalBasher View Post
    Southern Opponent Breakdown
    6 vs. Big South
    2 vs. Colonial
    1 vs. Ivy
    2 vs. Ohio Valley
    1 vs. Patriot
    1 vs. Pioneer
    10 vs. FBS
    4 vs. Lower Class Opponents (Div-II, Div-III or NAIA)

    Big Sky Opponent Breakdown
    6 vs. Big Sky, these games come from three head-to-head match-ups
    1 vs. Ivy
    8 vs. Missouri Valley
    1 vs. Northeast
    2 vs. Pioneer
    2 vs. Southland
    1 vs. Southwestern
    1 vs. FCS Independent
    15 vs. FBS
    5 vs. Lower Class Opponents (Div-II, Div-III or NAIA)
    This doesn't make sense to me....How are you considering Head to Head games within conference an OOC game? I took a few to the head, but isn't that a conference match up?
    I STILL HATE MARSHALL!​ Every time I see that movie, I root for Xavier!!!!!!!

  6. #16
    First Class FCS Ruler Sandlapper Spike's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Land of the crescent moon and the palmetto tree
    Posts
    581

    Re: Big Sky or SoCon? Which Conference is Better Positioned for 2018?

    The Big Sky has a few matchups this year between league teams that aren't conference games. I guess that is the nature of having rivalries within a super-sized conference.

    It isn't just the Big Sky. Wake Forest and North Carolina weren't scheduled to meet in ACC play between 2015 and 2022, so the two schools scheduled a couple of games that won't count as conference games (in 2019 and 2021).

  7. #17
    AGS FCS Champion PaladinFan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    11,788

    Re: Big Sky or SoCon? Which Conference is Better Positioned for 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by UpstateBison View Post
    So when is the SoCon going to have a team make it to the Semi’s?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    You are obviously in the group that doesn't remember the SoCon putting a team in the national title game nearly every year for 20 years.
    FU all the time.

    "The game we know and love literally grew up in the Southern Conference. To find the foundation for ACC and SEC football, you have to go the league’s roots. To find an appreciation for a brand of football often-overlooked and seldom-appreciated, we as fans should do the same."

  8. #18
    AGS Sausage King Bisonoline's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Fifty Lakes, MN
    Posts
    13,107

    Re: Big Sky or SoCon? Which Conference is Better Positioned for 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by PaladinFan View Post
    You are obviously in the group that doesn't remember the SoCon putting a team in the national title game nearly every year for 20 years.
    What does that have to do with the question at hand?
    Opportunity is unattainable for most people because it is disguised as hard work!!



  9. #19
    AGS FCS Champion

    cx500d's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Location
    Garland, TX
    Posts
    10,872

    Re: Big Sky or SoCon? Which Conference is Better Positioned for 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by PaladinFan View Post
    You are obviously in the group that doesn't remember the SoCon putting a team in the national title game nearly every year for 20 years.
    My memory only goes back about 10 years.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

  10. #20
    AGS FCS Champion PaladinFan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    11,788

    Re: Big Sky or SoCon? Which Conference is Better Positioned for 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bisonoline View Post
    What does that have to do with the question at hand?
    It answers the snarky question of "So when is the SoCon going to have a team make it to the Semi’s?"

    The answer is they've put teams in the semifinals a bunch of times. The conference underwent a massive upheaval in the last five years and lost their two most powerful programs. The Conference has regained its footing and is re-establishing itself as a top tier FCS conference.

    The general answer is that I don't know when the SoCon will make the semis again. Wofford cam darn close two years ago and gave Youngstown everything they could handle. I think it will be sooner rather than later.

    If I had to bet, I might say that the next semifinal team might be Furman in 2019 (next season). The Paladins played a bunch of freshmen last year and made the second round. There are only 11 seniors on the current roster and none on the offensive line. Next year they will be mostly juniors and seniors and I expect will be a handful.
    FU all the time.

    "The game we know and love literally grew up in the Southern Conference. To find the foundation for ACC and SEC football, you have to go the league’s roots. To find an appreciation for a brand of football often-overlooked and seldom-appreciated, we as fans should do the same."

Similar Threads

  1. SoCon: SoCon announces 2018 Hall of Fame class
    By News from the FCS in forum Southern Conference News
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: March 29th, 2018, 12:20 PM
  2. SoCon: SoCon announces Fall Academic All-Conference team
    By News from the FCS in forum Southern Conference News
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: January 16th, 2018, 05:00 PM
  3. SoCon: SoCon coaches pick Wofford, select all-conference teams
    By News from the FCS in forum Southern Conference News
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: July 18th, 2017, 02:10 PM
  4. Replies: 0
    Last Post: January 8th, 2012, 02:00 PM
  5. Replies: 0
    Last Post: August 9th, 2009, 10:50 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •